May 18, 2024 • 44 mins
Dan talks to FOX Sports Radio Network midday host and NEW University of Wisconsin Green Bay Men's Head Basketball Coach Doug Gottlieb. He checks in with Atlanta Falcons QB Kirk Cousins about how he felt when the Falcons drafted QB Michael Penix Jr. And he reacts to the arrest of Scottie Scheffler at Valhalla Golf Club before his second round of the PGA Championship.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Known him for a long time. I just called him Doug.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Now I got to call him coach coach Gottley New Wisconsin,
Green Bay head basketball coach. Oh, look at you. It
looks like it's picture day for you. Congratulations Doug.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Thanks Dan.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
How long you been working on this?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
I didn't well.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
The backstory is that I was a finalist for the
job last year and.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Sound and Swicks ended up being the choice. He did
a great job.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
He's National Coach of the Year, rising Ley Coach the Year,
and he got the Wyoming job.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
But I didn't really work on it.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
It was just more the athletic director, Josh Moon and
I struck up a legit friendship and relationship, and when
Sonny left to take the Wyoming job in his home state,
he called me and said he's still interested, and I said, hell, yeah.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
You know, last year, the timing was a little wonky.
My daughters were seniors in high school. So outside of
go and take some pictures for my daughter's prom on
Saturday back in California, they're out of the house, and
so I think the timing is actually a lot better
but the job is maybe a little bit more difficult
(01:20):
because now I'm following the guy who did a great
job and when the eighteen games last season.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
How much of this is I want to do this?
How much of this is I need to do this?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Oh oh man, you're good. You know I copied your
interviewing style for a reason. But that was a good one.
I don't have that one in the back. Probably a
little bit of both, but honestly, like, look, there's there's
the ego part to it that I want to prove myself, right,
I don't want to prove that all the talking into
(01:52):
a headset, all talking in the headset, all the AAU
or the you know, adult things that I've done and
coaching EBT or coaching overseas, like this is legit.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It works in college.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
But in all honesty, like my best friends in the
world are my teammates at Notre Dame, my teammates at
Oaklhandm State.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Like I'm on a group chat with those guys, I
will lay down on train tracks for them.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I told we got twenty on one group text, and
we got like fifteen on another.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And I would do anything for those guys.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I told them if they want to come up here
and get a job, whether it's in the office or
out of the office, I'll do it for them. And
that's the experience. I want for the kids to come
here and play for me. You know, they don't have
to love me. I like them respect me, but I
want them to love each other and love their school
and just have a great experience. You know, whether you're
here for one year or five years, I don't care.
I want to be the best basketball experience of your life,
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because you work so hard to get to this level,
and you know, you just don't want the You don't
want when you're thirty five to sit there and go like, well,
it's like your green bead, like this is okay, we
pay no no. You asked me about playing oklhand State.
I'll say it was the best, like literally the best
three years of my existence as a human being. And
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I want to be their best existence as a human being,
but also as a basketball player. I want to get
the best out of them by coaching them the way
I wanted to be coached.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I'll go a little deeper. Your dad was a basketball coach.
How much of this is about what your dad did?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Look at the family business.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I don't know if you know this, but my dad's
last head coaching job was at our tribal youw Milwaukee.
I was born in Wisconsin. I was Whitefish Bay Columbia Hospital.
So yeah, there's a there's a legacy element to it
as well. Uh, And I'm sure that when I talk
to people today, I'm gonna in this moment, I'm thinking, God,
(03:47):
he would be He's smile in heaven right now. So
I think there's there's part of that, But this is
not I'm not trying to live the life that my
dad would want me to live by no means like
he never want me to leave ESPN.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Man, he didn't.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
He thought it was that was crazy, you know, because
he said, you know, ESPN's.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Got I watch every night. You can't go leave for
somewhere else. I don't watch.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
But you know what, when I went to CBS, you
watched me listen. When I went to Fox, you watched
me listened. And so, uh, it's not all about him.
I can't live my life that way. But I can't
tell you that. You know, you get to this age
and you just say to yourself, like what am I
doing here?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
You know? I'm creeping up on.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Fifty and I love basketball. I love young men. I
love working at a you know the idea of working
at a university. And I want to build something special.
I want to build not a legacy for me, but
a legacy for them. I want them to experience what
I experienced. And these jobs are hard to get, man,
They're really really hard to get. My brother's been in
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the business for twenty eight years. He's really really good,
really good. He han't gotten a head job yet, so
I respect how hard it is to get at this.
I'm gonna do everything I can to make it successful.
And most importantly, I want these kids to have just
the best basketball experience in their life, the best college
experience in their life. And I want this community they'll
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embrace them and build something really cool where people say, like, man,
Green Bay, you get the Packers and then you got
the Phoenix, and you don't want to go play there.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
That's a snake bit.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You're going to take it out, he stuck.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Gottlaide, the new Wisconsin Green Bay head coach, also going
to do is national radio show at Folks Sports. How
do you commit to coaching, how do you commit to
doing your national radio show on the same day, same time.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Well, I mean, like, listen, you've done your radio show
and you've done TV shows in the same day, right,
I mean you know how hard that was when you
did Sports Center and you used to pop from one
to the next next you know, go and write your
script and it's challenging.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, but these are two different disciplines here. You could
be coaching in the afternoon and doing your radio show
in the afternoon.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
No, I'm the head coach. I get to set the schedule, okay, right,
but what time is practice coach? Yeah, I get that.
So as an assistant coach, I think it would be harder.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
I think it would be more difficult, but as you'd
have to have a really understanding head coach. But as
a head coach, like you set aside time. And the
great thing about about about you know, our Chancellor Michael
Alexander allowing me to do both is that it allows
me to take less money financially and not take a
(06:34):
huge hit and then hire a staff that already knows
what I don't know, and then they can murror crimson
tide like who's got the con?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Like I'll give somebody.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Else the con So I wake up really early thinking
about things to talk about, and I've I've already hired
somebody who's assigned to me. Hey man, you tell me
where I need to be, what I need to be there,
and then you just need to prioritize your time.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
But the truth is, Dan, you know, in the last couple.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Of years, I've worked for Fox Fox Sports Radio in
Fox Sports one, right, I did a streaming show for
Stadium I did. I had an AAU program in southern.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
California called British West that's our legacy program. And uh.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
I also worked for Westwood One for Compass Media. I mean,
you name it, I've done it. So now I only
have two jobs. I went from being remember the Jamaicans
on UH in Living Color. You know, I got six jobs.
I'm the butcher, the baker, the Canada stick maker. Like
now I only have two jobs.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So you can't say on the air. Are there things
that you can't.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah, but they're the same things I can't say on
the air anyway.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
No, but you can't talk about, you know, recruits. I
mean there's certain things you.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Get it like how many times in the history of
a Fox Sports radio show has anyone talked about recruits
for Green Bay?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
No, recruits in general?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I do we talk about college basketball at that granular.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Level what you might? You might?
Speaker 5 (08:08):
No, I don't, because I like what we talk about
what the most people want to listen about.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Right well, like Cooper Flap the number one player, Cooper Flags,
the number one player going to Duke? Were you would
you have been able to talk about Cooper Flag on
your radio show before he committed to Duke or going forward?
Are you allowed to do? I mean, these are just
thoughts that I had when you're going to try to
do both. Do you even know what you're allowed to
(08:34):
and not allowed to talk about on your show?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I'm not allowed to talk about recruitable student athletes that
I want to recruit. I can tell it right now.
I'm not getting Cooper Flag exid. He's going to be awesome.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
He's amazing.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I talk about Cooper Blag all the time because you
know what Cooper Flag I mean, I'd love him to
come to Green Bay, but he ain't ain't, he ain't coming.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Down, He's not what kind of what kind of nil budget?
Do you?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Good? Good needs to get better? But good?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I mean, you know, I am drinking my liquid death
for a reason, and you know, like we're we're going
to try and try and use I think it works
great together.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I think they're mutual promotional tools.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Right.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Everyone at Fox Sports Radio has been awesome, and now
we have the only national radio show host who's also
a Division one men at college basketball coach.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I think that works.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
And then for green Bay it works as a promotional
tool even without mentioning I don't have to talk ever
about Green Bay. I talk with the packers all that
I want, But I think you bring in some of
our national sponsors. There's people that that I have great
relationships with nationally, people that want to be a part
of this and what we're doing. And then of course
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going out in the community and anybody who has who
Green Bay has touched at any point in time in
their life, we want we want you to be around,
but we also want to help raise money because no
one's ever done without players. And it doesn't mean you
can just throw a bunch of money at kids and
they're gonna come and you're gonna win.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
You don't want that. You want guys invest in being
here for long term.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
But and I O budget is good and it's gonna
get great, and we're gonna go do all the things,
all the right things it takes to raise the money
and find the right players that will earn that money,
not just be given them money.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Would you like for me to be a shooting coach
for you?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I'm actually a really good shooting coach because I can
tell you what not to do when you're working with
But but but there are rumors of your eligibility.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
That's what I have to know. Ye left, do you
do you get a COVID year?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Hell?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, I'll take one.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
I mean because you know, I mean, we're in the
same league as Oakland and some of their guys will
I mean, they're.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Not sure age, but they're closer to season's age.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
You know what Wisconsin Stevens Point does reached out maybe
if I'd like to help them. So I'm just I said,
I got to talk to you first. But if if,
if you're passing up.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Listen, listen here here's here's the thing. Dan.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
If if you have n I l if you'd like to,
you'd like to donate to our collective? Uh help you
can start in the first game if you have eligibility.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Matter of fact, you can coach and start.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
You can play you if I pay you one hundred
thousand dollars. Yes, I get to start the first game
of your college coaching career.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Sure your eligibility absolutely, buddy?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Now not just start? I need to go brunton on you.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
You're you gonna play the whole game? Yes'n have to
dig a little.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try to
play the more.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I listen, man, I'm serious. If you really give like,
it ain't gonna matter. You know, we'll play a zone.
I hate zone. We'll play a zone. We'll put four
dudes around you. Stay in the corner. Damn, we'll find
you'll be open.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Uh know your coaching style?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yes, I coached Dan, I know I've coached college.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'm talking to college college.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
You.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Is different than.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
AU is closer to college now than it's ever been
in the past. Obviously it's more in depth in terms
of coaching and scouting or whatever. But you know, in
terms of how you gotta recruit and player player procurement,
it's a lot more like It's not more like AU
than it is like the NBA.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Right because the NBA have long term, guaranteed contracts.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
The AAU like, you don't know who's You might be thinking
kid's gonna play for you and he's in layup lines
with the other team.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Right, So, uh, do I know my coaching style?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Would you like to hear it?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I just want to know if it's gonna be fun,
because if.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
It's not, gonna be tedious and boring.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
No, you're gonna play defense. You're gonna play defense, and
you know the extra.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
To play you have to play defense.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
But you can't play defense just to play offense, right,
Some some teams do that, the old old A like, Look,
you're gonna win based upon do you defend, you rebound,
You're not try to ass all over.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
But I'm a five out guy. Okay, and and a
lot all that.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
All that my my infatuation with European basketball, NBA basketball.
Remember this year I got a chance to to work
with Mike Boyton at Oklahoma State as a consultant. I
learned so much from him. But we talked philosophically about
about about offense specifically. Offense is my specialty. My lead
assistant wuld be my defensive coordinator. But yeah, we play open.
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I don't like post ups. Post ups are a passing
position or you you dribble up into an uphill handoff.
That ball has got to move side to side in
purposeful movement. But it's the new way twenty twenty four
Play five.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I'm similar to watching right now St norbitch is watching
this interview and they now know your style.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Just letting you know, Dan.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you something that that Phil
Martelli told me when I was a finalist for a
different job.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
So Phil Martelly, the famous Saint.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
You said, don't shoot Doug.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Everybody said, don't you find find shooters and give them
a ball? That was no.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
He said, hey, when you get there and you have
your summer practices, play a ton of one on one.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I was like, one on one.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
He's like yeah, because you know what all that all
the offense is great, all the defense is great, but
at the end of games, you win or you lose,
because do you have a guy who can get you
a bucket? And do you have a guy who can
stop them from getting a bucket? And that's the only way,
you know, and like, look, my non negotiables are you
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got to be committed. You got to be tough and
you got a competitive right. That's how you find out
if kids are competitive is if everybody around and standing
around in the gym and we're watching two guys play
one on one, you find out who's got the lower
intestinal fortitude to get it done. What's my coaching style?
And I coach people the way I want to be coached.
I'm firm but fair. We're going to play fast. And
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when we're not playing basketball, well, we're not in the
gym like we're human beings. If you're not playing well,
I'm not going to not look at when you're in town.
I'm not gonna avoid you like you're still basically my
adopted son.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Like that's the relationship you have to have.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
It is all about getting kids to believe, not just
in themselves, but believe that you believe in them. That's
a big thing because they're all precocious basically teenagers. They
all have insecurities and they all come out when they're
not playing well. So you gotta you know, I gotta
you gotta coach confidence as much as anything else, and
you got to coach unselfishness, and unselfishness can rear its
(15:30):
head in a million different ways. Todd is unselfish, seat
is unselfish. You're selfish. We know how that works. You
want to take all the shots. It works collectively within
your group. Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Rick Patino just sent out a tweet that Doug is
going to kill it at Green Bay. His dad was
a terrific coach. Doug really knows the game. Now go
get a strong name, image and likeness. All right, how
often is that? That's great? Are you going to have
are you going to schedule him?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Yeah, you're like, I can take a couple of whippins early,
you're one.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
We can take whippins.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Are you wearing a track suit on the sidelines and
you're gonna go suit?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
It's a great question. It's a great question. I'm gonna
I'm gonna vary it. I'm gonna vary it. I mean,
I I like, I like that we've gone to the
zip up. You know the zip ups.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, Bob Huggins don't don't.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Well, Bob kind of let himself go a little bit,
but he's hell, how about that?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
The Rick Betino like unprompted, unprompted tweets it like, that's amazing,
that's that's remarkable.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Looking for a W. He looking for an easy W
is what he's looking for?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Call me, okay, I want half the money to the program,
half the money to the collective.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Let's go that house, my ni ol. Let's go play
some basketball.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Just reached out.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, Gene Oreama just reach out, said he wants a
piece of the phoenix.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
We'll do that.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Went home.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Sure, sure, we'll two for one. We know, we know.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
We said.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I'm happy for you. Uh, good luck with it? And uh,
can you can you do me?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Can you do me a favor?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I just did. I gave you fifteen minutes so you
could recruit.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
No, can you can you give me? Can you come
to a game?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Well, you're gonna be nearby.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Sure, sure, I'm not gonna play you gone, I'll play
Fairfield if you played.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Remember I remember I lived in West.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I know all they still talk about you. If you
play Fairfield or Sacred Heart, I will be there. Okay,
I'm going to be in the layup line.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Done.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I'm going to remember Drake.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Remember remember Check's got it clear first.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Oh no, I'm not playing. I'm just gonna be in
the layup line. That doesn't cost me that Congrats, Thanks
your best that's Doug Gottlieb, but I got to call
him coach now, Coach Gottlieb.
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Speaker 2 (18:38):
Three weeks ago today.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
We're thinking about the Falcons. Oh, could they add another weapon,
another receiver. Maybe they get an edge rusher. They already
had their quarterback, they got their running back, they got
a good tight end, a good wide receiver. Defense could
use some help. They plan a bad division and Kirk
Cuz coming off surgery, but going home where his wife
(19:03):
is from. Everything was looking good. And then all of
a sudden, with the eighth pick in the NFL Draft,
the Falcons take Michael Pennix, Junior. The schedule came out
last night. The Falcons do have one of the easiest
schedules this upcoming season, So we make way for the
Falcons quarterback Kirk Cousins, who joins us on the program.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh look at that got the guns out there.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Well, I haven't got under a bench president a very
long time. I got sophomore in college. My max was
I did two twenty five sixteen times, okay, And I
realized that it started to become a concern, Like the
more you lift as a quarterback, the more the NFL
coaches may think you're too stiff. So then they kind
of backed away from it.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Describe the emotions the last three plus weeks.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
I mean, I'm excited. There's been a lot of change.
I think that's the biggest thing right now for me
is as one old teammate said to me, when you
go to a new team, nothing is on autopilot. Nothing's
on cruise control. There's days where I miss lunch because
I don't know where the cafeteria is or I don't
know when lunch ends, and so everything is new, even
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like figuring out what room can I use to watch film?
And you know, how do the lifts work. Everybody's new,
everything's new, and so there's a lot of unknown and
you're starting to settle in, but a lot of change,
and that's part of what you sign up for. I
did it going from Washington, Minnesota and now again coming
to Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Okay, but three weeks ago, how are your spirits?
Speaker 6 (20:43):
Well, I mean my spirits have kind of always been
understanding that competition is a part of this job, this league.
I go back to my story, and you know my
story quite a bit, damn. But in high school, I
commit to Michigan State and a few weeks later, Marked
Tonio calls me to tell me that Nick Foles is
going to be offered a scholarship as well. And I
(21:05):
then looked up what Nick Foles had done in high school,
and I thought he lived the movie Friday Night Lights.
I mean, he played in state championship games, he played
in front of you know, ten thousand plus sea crowds.
Like this is not my high school experience. So I'm
in trouble, but you learned that, Hey, we go to work,
we practice, we get better, we improved, We played a
long game, and you know, Nick and I were both
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able to have long college careers and pro careers. Then
I go to Washington and it was a similar dynamic
where you realize there's a quarterback in the same draft
class as me here in this quarterback room. What does
that mean for our careers? And you realize that, you know,
both of us were able to have productive careers in
the sense that we both played a lot of football.
And then again, now when you see us take a quarterback,
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you say, hey, you know this is more the norm
than the exception, and I would expect both of us
to go on to have, you know, great careers up ahead.
You just don't know how. That's the thing. You don't
know how it's going to play out. I didn't know
how Nick Foles and I were both gonna have long
pro careers. I didn't know how Griff and I were
gonna end up playing. But it all works out, and
(22:14):
I think this will be no different.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
All right, take me back to Minnesota. Did they tell
you they were going to draft a quarterback?
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Well, they let me, know, like pretty right before the pick.
But outside of that, No.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
But if you had stayed there, were they still going
to go after JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Oh, I'm sorry, Sorry you were saying minnesotakins. Yeah, I'm
trying to remember the conversations, you know, so much of
it was through my agent. No, it was very gray.
It was very you know, we don't know what we're
gonna do. And speaking with Kevin O'Connell, who was always
you know, very communicative with me, it was, you know,
we're not we're not sure. He said, if we bring
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you back, we'd love to use the draft picks on defense.
But you stand there. Nobody really knows in March what
they're going to do in late April.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
But if you had known, if I gave you a
do over, you know, Minnesota's going to take JJ McCarthy,
and you know Atlanta's going to take Michael Pennix.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Yeah. No, I just don't think it's helpful to deal
on hypotheticals. I mean, you can do that with any
scenario at any point in your career. If this then was,
and you can go down a lot of trails. But
I'm excited to be here in Atlanta be the quarterback
of the Falcons. I think we've got a great opportunity
to win a lot of games here and have a
lot to look forward to up ahead.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
So you're watching the draft and then you get a
heads up, but thirty seconds before the pick.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Yeah, maybe maybe a minute and a half. You know,
it wasn't much.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Okay, are you at home with the wife and kids.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
I was. I was at a draft function at the
at the stadium and I was driving back up to
my house.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
So then you call your wife and you say, what.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Basically what the team told me that hey, they're gonna
be drafting a quarterback, And you know, I think again,
I'm just like, I'm kind of rehashing with you. I
remind my wife, Hey, this is this is a big
part of my story, going back to when I committed
to Michigan State, going back to when I was drafted
to Washington, and it's always had a way of working
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itself out, and so let's draw on past experience to
trust that the future, you know, can be the same.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
We're talking to Kirk Cousins, the Falcons quarterback. Yeah, if
the season started today, your role would be what with
the team.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
I believe I'm a starting quarterback, but health wise, oh yeah, no,
I'm I'm going to go. I've told people for a while,
uh that if the super Bowl word today, I'm playing,
And that goes back probably I think when I first
got here, I was working out and we got maybe
a week or two into my rehab and I did
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some drills where I said, hey, if the super Bowl
were today, I'm playing, and they seem to agree. So
you know, once that tendon gets stabilized and healed and
the tissue connects, you really just are trying to work
through telling your body that you're good now because the
brain still wants to guard and protect and it takes
some time. But I feel really good and there's more
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to go get but I can operate. I've been out
practicing now, and I think that's a great sign.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
It feels like this was a death sentence a decade ago,
and now all of a sudden, the Achilles surgery is
something that Okay, Aaron Rodgers like, has that surgery changed
further surgeries for anybody who has an Achilles injury?
Speaker 6 (25:51):
I think maybe the ACL two has been similar where
where when Gail Sayers did it, it was a death
sentence to his career. But guys do it now and
they come back stronger. Adrian Peterson does it, and you
know the next year runs for two thousand yards and
his Offensive Player of the Year. So you know, I
remember when my agent after I did the injury, we
were talking and he said, look, this used to be
a twelve month injury. Now it's a nine month injury.
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Some guys are coming back in seven to five months,
so he said. And plus he said, you're a pocket
passing quarterback. So this just is not This is not
the issue that it might be made out to be
in the media. It just won't be that. It is reality,
and I think it's a credit to you know, the
medical advances and the rehab teams and what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Well, I don't think you can run least than you
normally do, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
I have never been a like scrambling quarterback, so it
shouldn't really change the way I play, even if I
were to not heal fully, which I expect to. But no,
I expect to be the same player, if not maybe
a little more athletic because of how aggressive I'm going
in the rehab with calf raises and jumping and leg
presses and squats and things where maybe I wouldn't normally
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be doing that. So I should an even better lower
half than I than I've always played with. And speaking
of achilles injuries from the past, I when I first
did it, I went and looked up people like notable
people who have torn their achilles, and obviously recently it
was Aaron Rodgers, it was Megan Rapino. But I realized
there were some names going way back, like obviously Dan Marino,
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like Judy Dench, the actress and dancers he tore achilles.
Brad Pitt, Russell Crowe, George Clooney all tore their achilles.
Al Gore tore's achilles. So I realized, like, there's a
lot of people who accomplished great things post achilles tear.
So I feel like I'm a good company.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Did you reach out to George Clooney or Brad Pitt
or Judy Dench?
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Well, I reached out to Rogers, and I know he's
you know, Rogers has a little bit bigger platform than me, right,
So I said, hey, Aaron, I said, you know, maybe
during super Bowl week or something, we have like an
achilles tear summit, in Vegas, where we get all the
heavy hitters together who have torn their achilles, and I
think with your contacts out there in California, we can
make something happen. So he seemed to agree, but we
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just never really made it happen.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
That'd be great if you've got all these actors that
came there, Rogers, host of the seminar, get the doctor
in there, because there's still time.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
There's still time. We could have an achilles tear summit
and get all the all the heavy hitters in one room.
I think you could make for a lot of great conversation.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
How important was it to bring your family back home
for your your wife?
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Yeah, my wife is somebody who if I told her, Hey,
I'm retiring tomorrow, she'd say, no problem. If I told
her I'm playing ten more years, she'd say no problem.
If I said we're playing in Japan, she'd say, great,
the boys can go learn Japanese. So she's kind of
up for whatever, up for the adventures. She loved the
Minnesota but the fact that we're coming to Atlanta for
her family, her parents, her siblings, they're huge sports fans,
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lifelong Atlanta sports fans. You know, I think for them.
It's hard to even believe that they have a family
member now who's playing for the Falcons, So that that's fun.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
What'd you do with all your vikings gear?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
What a great question. We do have a lot of it,
and we're putting it in boxes and then mailing it
back up to like our next door neighbor, you know,
other teammates, because we have clothes for our kids and
things where they're you know, teammates kids can use. So
we're trying to recycle, if you will, the best we can,
because we do have a lot of purple and gold
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around and I've had a lot of friends and family
text me saying, man, the only challenge is now we
got to buy new jerseys, new hats, new sweatshirts, so
it can get expensive changing teams for your support support cast.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
How many players do you know on the team if
they don't have their jerseys on or they're not standing
by their lockers.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Yeah, another great question. You know, we have ninety guys
in the locker room, so it's not like a basketball
team where if you learn twelve to fifteen names you're good.
So I know the offense and that's partly because that's
the group I'm with at the lifts and at the meetings.
It's the defense where it's harder for me because we
just brought in a whole new cast of rookies now
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and I don't have as many shared with the defense,
so I'm trying to learn names. But I still got
a ways to go. And even the coaching staff, I
feel like support staff and coaching staffs have almost doubled
since my rookie year in this league. So there's a
lot of a lot of support staff, which is great
to have the help, but it's a lot of names
to learn.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
But are you one of those guys that hey, Bud
like you like?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Like what do you say when you don't know who
somebody is? But you don't want to be like man,
nothing even say a low to me, like you gotta
go hey.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Yeah, no doubt. I think I think there's a lot
of that, Dan, you get it. I mean I'm walking
across the field to day to go to my next
meeting and crossing the defense and it's hey, Bud, Hey,
how you doing?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Guy?
Speaker 6 (30:36):
You know? So you have to do it?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
You do.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Plus, if I said to everybody, hey, what's your name?
What's your name, what's your name? There's a good chance
I forget it, you know, by the time I get
through the next lift. So it's just a process. And uh,
I haven't yet gone home and like really tried to
like study names with flash cards, but it may be
something I have to do if it drags on.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
How about name tags?
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Hello, my name is Name tags are a game changer.
In college Michigan State, Mark D'Antonio, it was mandatory at
training camp no matter who you were, you had to
wear a tape name on your helmet or on your
shirt if you were a coach. So even coach Stantonio
had a deal of coach Stantonio, nobody was immune. So
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that would really help new guys certainly if we can
just all have name tags.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Before I let you go. You've you're a good businessman
or somebody? Do you know as a good businessman because
you you and Darrell Reves have had two unbelievably financial,
great financial careers making really good decisions.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
No, I appreciate the kind words that It really goes
back to my agent, Mike McCartney. I just kind of
did what he told me over the last twelve years.
I remember when Joe Flacco was playing in the Super
Bowl my rookie year. I didn't know anything about contracts
or how the league works, and my agent in New
Orleans the week of the game explained to me Joe's
situation now he was going to be a free agent,
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that the franchise tag is something that a team would use,
that it's probably in Joe's best interest to be tagged,
play on that tag twice, and then go to the market.
And me explained this whole path, not knowing that in
four years, three years from that moment, we would be
living out that path. And so my agent explained to me.
Then when it came our turn, he said, unless we
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can do a fully guaranteed contract over three years, we
will just play on the franchise tag, and so that
was what was offered. That was what was explained. The
team chose not to do that. We played on the
two franchise tags and then went to the market, and
then we did a three year, fully guaranteed contract. So
I pretty much just did what Mike McCartney told me.
His wisdom proved to be true, and I've just kind
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of followed his hit him every step of the way,
and we'll see where it goes from here, he joked.
When we signed with the Falcons. As he was leaving
the building, he said to the staff, he said, we'll
see you guys in three years.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
With the exception.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
I thought it was a good line, So we'll see
if you know where it goes from here.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Well, you're able to go out and buy another minivan,
and really, that's that's your quality of life, isn't it.
That is that your big splurge, that you get a
minivan for the family.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
You know, I've kind of been known as a guy
who's pretty cheap, and I will say that I do
have a bit of a like everything I spend on
has to have like usefulness, has to have utility. So
if a conversion ban can have utility for my family,
I'm going to get a nice conversion van. But yeah,
like when people say, oh, are you gonna get some chains,
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Are you gonna get an awesome sports car, it's like, well,
the utility is not really there, so it's hard for
me to get excited about it. But yeah, I mean,
I don't want the narrative be that I don't spend money,
because believe me, I've I've flown on a private jet before.
You know, I've done some nice things. I bought a
golf course in my hometown. So you know, when there's
utility or I see a reason to do it, I'll
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write to check, just like anybody else. But I also
can get pretty cheap if I don't see the utility
in it.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Great to talk to you, Good luck again with the rehab,
and we'll hope we'll check in with you when you
start the season.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Yeah, great catching up always good to see. It takes
me back even to my college days and we had
our first interviews. And happy birthday to you and excited
for thirty many more up ahead.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Thank you, bun Kirk d Cousins.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
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Speaker 3 (34:25):
Scotty Scheffler had a good first round. He's the prohibitive
favorite here, even though Xander Schoffley shot a record sixty two,
a record tying sixty two in his opening round. He's
going to the golf course early this morning, around three
hours before his tea time he was supposed to tee off. Already,
there's a rain delay, and now his tea time has
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been moved back to little after ten o'clock. So he
was arrested and released. Now there's certain things that pop
up on your phone and you go that can't be true.
Scotty Scheffler arrested Scotty Scheffler, and then you see the
video the reporting. Jeff Darlington has done a wonderful job
on the Mothership and he was booked with four different charges. Now,
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there was an accident where there was a fatality, and
so there was a long line of people trying to
get into the golf course. And he's got a courtesy car.
It says on the side it's a courtesy car, and
usually you let those people go into the golf course.
Everybody else is going to be on a shuttle bus.
They'll park someplace, usually half a mile away, and then
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shuttle buses will bring the fans in. So Scotty was
trying to go in to the golf course and Jeff
Darlington was in the car behind Scotty Scheffler, the ESPN reporter,
and he had this to say earlier this morning on
Sports Center.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
To be very clear about the details here, Scotty Scheffler
has been detained by police officers, placed in the back
of a police vehicle in handcuffs after he tried to
pull around what he believed to be security ended up
being police officers.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
They told him to stop.
Speaker 8 (36:08):
When he didn't stop, the police officer attached himself to
the vehicle. Scheffer then traveled another ten yards before stopping
the car. The police officer then grabbed at his arm,
attempting to pull him out of the car, before Scheffler
eventually opened the door, at which point the police officer
pulled Scheffler out of the car, pushed him up against
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the car, and immediately placed him in handcuffs.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
He got a mugshot. He's been released. Here are the
charges assault second degree on a police officer, criminal mischief,
third degree, reckless driving, disregarding signals from officers directing traffic.
Jeff Darlington, who has done a great job reporting, did
say that Scheffler didn't realize it was a police officer
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there in a neon yellow slicker and he wasn't able
to see that he was a police officer. It was dark,
it was really early in the morning, before six am,
and there's a long line of traffic. He is trying
to go in and he has the markings on his
car that allow him to do that. The officer maybe
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saw him disregarding what he said, just stop. There had
been a fatality, and Scotty kept going, and then all
of a sudden, the officer attached himself to the car.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Scotty stopped.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Now this according to eyewitnesses, They grab him, They take
him out of the car, They handcuff him. They don't
even know it's Scotty Scheffler. In fact, Jeff Darlington gets
out of his car to tell the officers who he is.
They tell Jeff Darlington get back in his car and
he says, I'm member of the press. They still don't
want him around the situation, and they go who did
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we arrest and he said this, according to eyewitness reports,
Scotty Scheffler.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
So they took Scheffler to jail.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Now, if there wasn't a delay due to the rain
in Louisville, and he would have missed his tea time.
He has to be able to get to the first
tee before the players in his group finish their hole.
So he will be penalized if that's the case, But
he could still if he gets there late. Now golf,
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there's a routine that they have. That's why they get there,
usually two and a half to three hours in advance.
Because they get there, they stretch, they work out, they
have breakfast, they get dressed, they go to the practice range,
so there's a long then they go to the putting green,
and then they go to the first team. They're usually there.
They usually allow about a three hour window here. He
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won't have that luxury at all. But can he get
there for his tea time? It's a little after ten o'clock,
so a little bit more than an hour from now,
can he get there? And I don't even know if
he'll have time to warm up. I don't know if
he'll have time for the routine. And then to go
out there and play golf after you've been arrested, and
we know this is a mental game, but to go
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out there after you've been in handcuffs in a police car,
you've been booked, you got a mugshot. He even has
the the jail orange, the jumpsuit on. So this is
a serious situation. Obviously, somebody lost their life earlier this morning.
That created the long delay. Then you had the weather
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and Scottie Scheffler. Now, can he get to the golf
course in time for his second round?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah, Paul, I have a couple updates.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
Jason Sowell of Serious XM Golf said Scheffler's tea time
was changed from eight twenty eight to ten oh eight am.
Under rule five point three, the committee decides an exceptional
circumstances preventing you from starting on time, So it appears
they gave him a little wigger room beyond the weather
to start later.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
And this is.
Speaker 9 (39:49):
From golf dot Com about half an hour ago. Scotty
Scheffler has been released from the jail and will be
at Valhalla in fifteen minutes. That was at eight forty
am local time.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Okay, so he's going to get there and he'll have
an hour to get ready. But you can't change his
tea time without changing the tea time of the other
players who are going to play with him.
Speaker 9 (40:10):
That we're trying to figure out, but there seems to
be an exception.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yeah, I don't know how that works because the other
two golfers playing with him, then you're changing their tea
time as well. And I know number one player in
the world. You want to accommodate him. But you know,
this goes back to what leagues can do and not do.
Go back to what happened with the Phoenix Suns san
Antonio Spurs many many years ago when Amari Stademyer got
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off the bench, didn't fight anybody with san Antonio, but
he was suspended and the commissioner was not hearing anything.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
He was like, no, he broke a rule, and that's it.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I don't know if you go out of your way
to accommodate Scotti Scheffler, but if there is an exception
rule and you're able to accommodate him, I'd like to
know what happens with the other golfers who are playing
with him.
Speaker 9 (41:01):
It does appear that his group Wyndham Clark and I
got It and Brian Harmon are all moved to ten
oh eight am okay, and appears the whole group has
unmoved that time.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
So we'll keep an eye on this and let you
know if he gets there. I'm assuming he will get there. Now,
how did they accommodate him this time around? Does he
get a police escort from the police department to the
jail to get to the golf course? And I would
have somebody else drive him. But I'm assuming he'll be
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there and he'll be able to play. You know, he
doesn't make headlines. He didn't say anything. He's pretty sedate.
And all of a sudden, of all the people, if
I said a golfer got arrested this morning, you would
have said Scottie Scheffler if I gave you one hundred guesses.
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But here he is arrested, mugshot, four charges, and now
he heads to the golf course trying to win another.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Major degree of difficulty.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
I know Tiger's done some incredible things, but degree of
difficulty out of a jail cell, out of a jumpsuit,
onto the first tea, and can you imagine how the
crowd is going to respond to him. They will be
all over in his corner, cheering for Scottie Scheffler. He's
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one of us. He got in trouble, jail to the
first t Wow on a morning, how do you get
your head straight? So just yesterday, his second shot, the
second shot he's had since his wife had their baby.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
He has an eagle.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
He holds out from one hundred and seventy yards out
and you're like, all right, welcome to fatherhood.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Here.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
It's going to be great. Now all of a sudden,
you're gonna get there today. You're gonna rush. How many
balls a you're gonna be able to hit on the rain?
Do you go to the putting green? You gotta get ready. Mentally,
you gotta get ready. And ladies and gentlemen, Scotty Scheffler,
that crowd.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Is going to go crazy. Wow, what a day, What
a day. And it's just after nine o'clock. Then, what
a day.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Scotty Scheffler has just arrived, I believe, at the golf course.
Just arrived at the golf course. He's got a little
less than an hour to get ready. He's getting out
of his car. Oh boy, he's going in the clubhouse.
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Gonna get ready. That is going to be quick, yes, yes,
all right. See remember it was Scotty versus the field.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Literally.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Okay, I'm wondering if draft Can has updated odds here he.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Took on that whole field of police. Yeah, that's it.
I'm getting through.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Xander Schoffley is the big favorite.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
That it's Scotty Scheffler and Rory Uh, followed by Brooks
Koepka and Colin Morikawa.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Known him for a long time. I just called him Doug.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Now I got to call him coach coach Gottley New Wisconsin,
Green Bay head basketball coach. Oh, look at you. It
looks like it's picture day for you. Congratulations Doug.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Thanks Dan.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
How long you been working on this?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
I didn't well.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
The backstory is that I was a finalist for the
job last year and.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Sound and Swicks ended up being the choice. He did
a great job.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
He's National Coach of the Year, rising Ley Coach the Year,
and he got the Wyoming job.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
But I didn't really work on it.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
It was just more the athletic director, Josh Moon and
I struck up a legit friendship and relationship, and when
Sonny left to take the Wyoming job in his home state,
he called me and said he's still interested, and I said, hell, yeah.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
You know, last year, the timing was a little wonky.
My daughters were seniors in high school. So outside of
go and take some pictures for my daughter's prom on
Saturday back in California, they're out of the house, and
so I think the timing is actually a lot better
but the job is maybe a little bit more difficult
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because now I'm following the guy who did a great
job and when the eighteen games last season.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
How much of this is I want to do this?
How much of this is I need to do this?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Oh oh man, you're good. You know I copied your
interviewing style for a reason. But that was a good one.
I don't have that one in the back. Probably a
little bit of both, but honestly, like, look, there's there's
the ego part to it that I want to prove myself, right,
I don't want to prove that all the talking into
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a headset, all talking in the headset, all the AAU
or the you know, adult things that I've done and
coaching EBT or coaching overseas, like this is legit.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It works in college.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
But in all honesty, like my best friends in the
world are my teammates at Notre Dame, my teammates at
Oaklhandm State.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Like I'm on a group chat with those guys, I
will lay down on train tracks for them.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I told we got twenty on one group text, and
we got like fifteen on another.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And I would do anything for those guys.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I told them if they want to come up here
and get a job, whether it's in the office or
out of the office, I'll do it for them. And
that's the experience. I want for the kids to come
here and play for me. You know, they don't have
to love me. I like them respect me, but I
want them to love each other and love their school
and just have a great experience. You know, whether you're
here for one year or five years, I don't care.
I want to be the best basketball experience of your life,
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because you work so hard to get to this level,
and you know, you just don't want the You don't
want when you're thirty five to sit there and go like, well,
it's like your green bead, like this is okay, we
pay no no. You asked me about playing oklhand State.
I'll say it was the best, like literally the best
three years of my existence as a human being. And
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I want to be their best existence as a human being,
but also as a basketball player. I want to get
the best out of them by coaching them the way
I wanted to be coached.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I'll go a little deeper. Your dad was a basketball coach.
How much of this is about what your dad did?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Look at the family business.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I don't know if you know this, but my dad's
last head coaching job was at our tribal youw Milwaukee.
I was born in Wisconsin. I was Whitefish Bay Columbia Hospital.
So yeah, there's a there's a legacy element to it
as well. Uh, And I'm sure that when I talk
to people today, I'm gonna in this moment, I'm thinking, God,
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he would be He's smile in heaven right now. So
I think there's there's part of that, But this is
not I'm not trying to live the life that my
dad would want me to live by no means like
he never want me to leave ESPN.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Man, he didn't.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
He thought it was that was crazy, you know, because
he said, you know, ESPN's.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Got I watch every night. You can't go leave for
somewhere else. I don't watch.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
But you know what, when I went to CBS, you
watched me listen. When I went to Fox, you watched
me listened. And so, uh, it's not all about him.
I can't live my life that way. But I can't
tell you that. You know, you get to this age
and you just say to yourself, like what am I
doing here?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
You know? I'm creeping up on.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Fifty and I love basketball. I love young men. I
love working at a you know the idea of working
at a university. And I want to build something special.
I want to build not a legacy for me, but
a legacy for them. I want them to experience what
I experienced. And these jobs are hard to get, man,
They're really really hard to get. My brother's been in
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the business for twenty eight years. He's really really good,
really good. He han't gotten a head job yet, so
I respect how hard it is to get at this.
I'm gonna do everything I can to make it successful.
And most importantly, I want these kids to have just
the best basketball experience in their life, the best college
experience in their life. And I want this community they'll
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embrace them and build something really cool where people say, like, man,
Green Bay, you get the Packers and then you got
the Phoenix, and you don't want to go play there.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
That's a snake bit.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You're going to take it out, he stuck.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Gottlaide, the new Wisconsin Green Bay head coach, also going
to do is national radio show at Folks Sports. How
do you commit to coaching, how do you commit to
doing your national radio show on the same day, same time.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Well, I mean, like, listen, you've done your radio show
and you've done TV shows in the same day, right,
I mean you know how hard that was when you
did Sports Center and you used to pop from one
to the next next you know, go and write your
script and it's challenging.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, but these are two different disciplines here. You could
be coaching in the afternoon and doing your radio show
in the afternoon.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
No, I'm the head coach. I get to set the schedule, okay, right,
but what time is practice coach? Yeah, I get that.
So as an assistant coach, I think it would be harder.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
I think it would be more difficult, but as you'd
have to have a really understanding head coach. But as
a head coach, like you set aside time. And the
great thing about about about you know, our Chancellor Michael
Alexander allowing me to do both is that it allows
me to take less money financially and not take a
(06:34):
huge hit and then hire a staff that already knows
what I don't know, and then they can murror crimson
tide like who's got the con?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Like I'll give somebody.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Else the con So I wake up really early thinking
about things to talk about, and I've I've already hired
somebody who's assigned to me. Hey man, you tell me
where I need to be, what I need to be there,
and then you just need to prioritize your time.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
But the truth is, Dan, you know, in the last couple.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Of years, I've worked for Fox Fox Sports Radio in
Fox Sports one, right, I did a streaming show for
Stadium I did. I had an AAU program in southern.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
California called British West that's our legacy program. And uh.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
I also worked for Westwood One for Compass Media. I mean,
you name it, I've done it. So now I only
have two jobs. I went from being remember the Jamaicans
on UH in Living Color. You know, I got six jobs.
I'm the butcher, the baker, the Canada stick maker. Like
now I only have two jobs.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So you can't say on the air. Are there things
that you can't.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah, but they're the same things I can't say on
the air anyway.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
No, but you can't talk about, you know, recruits. I
mean there's certain things you.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Get it like how many times in the history of
a Fox Sports radio show has anyone talked about recruits
for Green Bay?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
No, recruits in general?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I do we talk about college basketball at that granular.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Level what you might? You might?
Speaker 5 (08:08):
No, I don't, because I like what we talk about
what the most people want to listen about.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Right well, like Cooper Flap the number one player, Cooper Flags,
the number one player going to Duke? Were you would
you have been able to talk about Cooper Flag on
your radio show before he committed to Duke or going forward?
Are you allowed to do? I mean, these are just
thoughts that I had when you're going to try to
do both. Do you even know what you're allowed to
(08:34):
and not allowed to talk about on your show?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I'm not allowed to talk about recruitable student athletes that
I want to recruit. I can tell it right now.
I'm not getting Cooper Flag exid. He's going to be awesome.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
He's amazing.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I talk about Cooper Blag all the time because you
know what Cooper Flag I mean, I'd love him to
come to Green Bay, but he ain't ain't, he ain't coming.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Down, He's not what kind of what kind of nil budget?
Do you?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Good? Good needs to get better? But good?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I mean, you know, I am drinking my liquid death
for a reason, and you know, like we're we're going
to try and try and use I think it works
great together.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I think they're mutual promotional tools.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Right.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Everyone at Fox Sports Radio has been awesome, and now
we have the only national radio show host who's also
a Division one men at college basketball coach.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I think that works.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
And then for green Bay it works as a promotional
tool even without mentioning I don't have to talk ever
about Green Bay. I talk with the packers all that
I want, But I think you bring in some of
our national sponsors. There's people that that I have great
relationships with nationally, people that want to be a part
of this and what we're doing. And then of course
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going out in the community and anybody who has who
Green Bay has touched at any point in time in
their life, we want we want you to be around,
but we also want to help raise money because no
one's ever done without players. And it doesn't mean you
can just throw a bunch of money at kids and
they're gonna come and you're gonna win.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
You don't want that. You want guys invest in being
here for long term.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
But and I O budget is good and it's gonna
get great, and we're gonna go do all the things,
all the right things it takes to raise the money
and find the right players that will earn that money,
not just be given them money.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Would you like for me to be a shooting coach
for you?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I'm actually a really good shooting coach because I can
tell you what not to do when you're working with
But but but there are rumors of your eligibility.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
That's what I have to know. Ye left, do you
do you get a COVID year?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Hell?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, I'll take one.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
I mean because you know, I mean, we're in the
same league as Oakland and some of their guys will
I mean, they're.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Not sure age, but they're closer to season's age.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
You know what Wisconsin Stevens Point does reached out maybe
if I'd like to help them. So I'm just I said,
I got to talk to you first. But if if,
if you're passing up.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Listen, listen here here's here's the thing. Dan.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
If if you have n I l if you'd like to,
you'd like to donate to our collective? Uh help you
can start in the first game if you have eligibility.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Matter of fact, you can coach and start.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
You can play you if I pay you one hundred
thousand dollars. Yes, I get to start the first game
of your college coaching career.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Sure your eligibility absolutely, buddy?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Now not just start? I need to go brunton on you.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
You're you gonna play the whole game? Yes'n have to
dig a little.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try to
play the more.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I listen, man, I'm serious. If you really give like,
it ain't gonna matter. You know, we'll play a zone.
I hate zone. We'll play a zone. We'll put four
dudes around you. Stay in the corner. Damn, we'll find
you'll be open.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Uh know your coaching style?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yes, I coached Dan, I know I've coached college.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'm talking to college college.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
You.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Is different than.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
AU is closer to college now than it's ever been
in the past. Obviously it's more in depth in terms
of coaching and scouting or whatever. But you know, in
terms of how you gotta recruit and player player procurement,
it's a lot more like It's not more like AU
than it is like the NBA.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Right because the NBA have long term, guaranteed contracts.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
The AAU like, you don't know who's You might be thinking
kid's gonna play for you and he's in layup lines
with the other team.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Right, So, uh, do I know my coaching style?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Would you like to hear it?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I just want to know if it's gonna be fun,
because if.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
It's not, gonna be tedious and boring.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
No, you're gonna play defense. You're gonna play defense, and
you know the extra.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
To play you have to play defense.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
But you can't play defense just to play offense, right,
Some some teams do that, the old old A like, Look,
you're gonna win based upon do you defend, you rebound,
You're not try to ass all over.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
But I'm a five out guy. Okay, and and a
lot all that.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
All that my my infatuation with European basketball, NBA basketball.
Remember this year I got a chance to to work
with Mike Boyton at Oklahoma State as a consultant. I
learned so much from him. But we talked philosophically about
about about offense specifically. Offense is my specialty. My lead
assistant wuld be my defensive coordinator. But yeah, we play open.
(13:27):
I don't like post ups. Post ups are a passing
position or you you dribble up into an uphill handoff.
That ball has got to move side to side in
purposeful movement. But it's the new way twenty twenty four
Play five.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I'm similar to watching right now St norbitch is watching
this interview and they now know your style.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Just letting you know, Dan.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you something that that Phil
Martelli told me when I was a finalist for a
different job.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
So Phil Martelly, the famous Saint.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
You said, don't shoot Doug.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Everybody said, don't you find find shooters and give them
a ball? That was no.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
He said, hey, when you get there and you have
your summer practices, play a ton of one on one.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I was like, one on one.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
He's like yeah, because you know what all that all
the offense is great, all the defense is great, but
at the end of games, you win or you lose,
because do you have a guy who can get you
a bucket? And do you have a guy who can
stop them from getting a bucket? And that's the only way,
you know, and like, look, my non negotiables are you
(14:32):
got to be committed. You got to be tough and
you got a competitive right. That's how you find out
if kids are competitive is if everybody around and standing
around in the gym and we're watching two guys play
one on one, you find out who's got the lower
intestinal fortitude to get it done. What's my coaching style?
And I coach people the way I want to be coached.
I'm firm but fair. We're going to play fast. And
(14:52):
when we're not playing basketball, well, we're not in the
gym like we're human beings. If you're not playing well,
I'm not going to not look at when you're in town.
I'm not gonna avoid you like you're still basically my
adopted son.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Like that's the relationship you have to have.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
It is all about getting kids to believe, not just
in themselves, but believe that you believe in them. That's
a big thing because they're all precocious basically teenagers. They
all have insecurities and they all come out when they're
not playing well. So you gotta you know, I gotta
you gotta coach confidence as much as anything else, and
you got to coach unselfishness, and unselfishness can rear its
(15:30):
head in a million different ways. Todd is unselfish, seat
is unselfish. You're selfish. We know how that works. You
want to take all the shots. It works collectively within
your group. Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Rick Patino just sent out a tweet that Doug is
going to kill it at Green Bay. His dad was
a terrific coach. Doug really knows the game. Now go
get a strong name, image and likeness. All right, how
often is that? That's great? Are you going to have
are you going to schedule him?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Yeah, you're like, I can take a couple of whippins early,
you're one.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
We can take whippins.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Are you wearing a track suit on the sidelines and
you're gonna go suit?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
It's a great question. It's a great question. I'm gonna
I'm gonna vary it. I'm gonna vary it. I mean,
I I like, I like that we've gone to the
zip up. You know the zip ups.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, Bob Huggins don't don't.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Well, Bob kind of let himself go a little bit,
but he's hell, how about that?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
The Rick Betino like unprompted, unprompted tweets it like, that's amazing,
that's that's remarkable.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Looking for a W. He looking for an easy W
is what he's looking for?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Call me, okay, I want half the money to the program,
half the money to the collective.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Let's go that house, my ni ol. Let's go play
some basketball.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Just reached out.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, Gene Oreama just reach out, said he wants a
piece of the phoenix.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
We'll do that.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Went home.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Sure, sure, we'll two for one. We know, we know.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
We said.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I'm happy for you. Uh, good luck with it? And uh,
can you can you do me?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Can you do me a favor?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I just did. I gave you fifteen minutes so you
could recruit.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
No, can you can you give me? Can you come
to a game?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Well, you're gonna be nearby.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Sure, sure, I'm not gonna play you gone, I'll play
Fairfield if you played.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Remember I remember I lived in West.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I know all they still talk about you. If you
play Fairfield or Sacred Heart, I will be there. Okay,
I'm going to be in the layup line.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Done.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I'm going to remember Drake.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Remember remember Check's got it clear first.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Oh no, I'm not playing. I'm just gonna be in
the layup line. That doesn't cost me that Congrats, Thanks
your best that's Doug Gottlieb, but I got to call
him coach now, Coach Gottlieb.
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Speaker 2 (18:38):
Three weeks ago today.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
We're thinking about the Falcons. Oh, could they add another weapon,
another receiver. Maybe they get an edge rusher. They already
had their quarterback, they got their running back, they got
a good tight end, a good wide receiver. Defense could
use some help. They plan a bad division and Kirk
Cuz coming off surgery, but going home where his wife
(19:03):
is from. Everything was looking good. And then all of
a sudden, with the eighth pick in the NFL Draft,
the Falcons take Michael Pennix, Junior. The schedule came out
last night. The Falcons do have one of the easiest
schedules this upcoming season, So we make way for the
Falcons quarterback Kirk Cousins, who joins us on the program.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh look at that got the guns out there.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Well, I haven't got under a bench president a very
long time. I got sophomore in college. My max was
I did two twenty five sixteen times, okay, And I
realized that it started to become a concern, Like the
more you lift as a quarterback, the more the NFL
coaches may think you're too stiff. So then they kind
of backed away from it.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Describe the emotions the last three plus weeks.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
I mean, I'm excited. There's been a lot of change.
I think that's the biggest thing right now for me
is as one old teammate said to me, when you
go to a new team, nothing is on autopilot. Nothing's
on cruise control. There's days where I miss lunch because
I don't know where the cafeteria is or I don't
know when lunch ends, and so everything is new, even
(20:18):
like figuring out what room can I use to watch film?
And you know, how do the lifts work. Everybody's new,
everything's new, and so there's a lot of unknown and
you're starting to settle in, but a lot of change,
and that's part of what you sign up for. I
did it going from Washington, Minnesota and now again coming
to Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Okay, but three weeks ago, how are your spirits?
Speaker 6 (20:43):
Well, I mean my spirits have kind of always been
understanding that competition is a part of this job, this league.
I go back to my story, and you know my
story quite a bit, damn. But in high school, I
commit to Michigan State and a few weeks later, Marked
Tonio calls me to tell me that Nick Foles is
going to be offered a scholarship as well. And I
(21:05):
then looked up what Nick Foles had done in high school,
and I thought he lived the movie Friday Night Lights.
I mean, he played in state championship games, he played
in front of you know, ten thousand plus sea crowds.
Like this is not my high school experience. So I'm
in trouble, but you learned that, Hey, we go to work,
we practice, we get better, we improved, We played a
long game, and you know, Nick and I were both
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able to have long college careers and pro careers. Then
I go to Washington and it was a similar dynamic
where you realize there's a quarterback in the same draft
class as me here in this quarterback room. What does
that mean for our careers? And you realize that, you know,
both of us were able to have productive careers in
the sense that we both played a lot of football.
And then again, now when you see us take a quarterback,
(21:54):
you say, hey, you know this is more the norm
than the exception, and I would expect both of us
to go on to have, you know, great careers up ahead.
You just don't know how. That's the thing. You don't
know how it's going to play out. I didn't know
how Nick Foles and I were both gonna have long
pro careers. I didn't know how Griff and I were
gonna end up playing. But it all works out, and
(22:14):
I think this will be no different.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
All right, take me back to Minnesota. Did they tell
you they were going to draft a quarterback?
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Well, they let me, know, like pretty right before the pick.
But outside of that, No.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
But if you had stayed there, were they still going
to go after JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Oh, I'm sorry, Sorry you were saying minnesotakins. Yeah, I'm
trying to remember the conversations, you know, so much of
it was through my agent. No, it was very gray.
It was very you know, we don't know what we're
gonna do. And speaking with Kevin O'Connell, who was always
you know, very communicative with me, it was, you know,
we're not we're not sure. He said, if we bring
(22:55):
you back, we'd love to use the draft picks on defense.
But you stand there. Nobody really knows in March what
they're going to do in late April.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
But if you had known, if I gave you a
do over, you know, Minnesota's going to take JJ McCarthy,
and you know Atlanta's going to take Michael Pennix.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Yeah. No, I just don't think it's helpful to deal
on hypotheticals. I mean, you can do that with any
scenario at any point in your career. If this then was,
and you can go down a lot of trails. But
I'm excited to be here in Atlanta be the quarterback
of the Falcons. I think we've got a great opportunity
to win a lot of games here and have a
lot to look forward to up ahead.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
So you're watching the draft and then you get a
heads up, but thirty seconds before the pick.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Yeah, maybe maybe a minute and a half. You know,
it wasn't much.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Okay, are you at home with the wife and kids.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
I was. I was at a draft function at the
at the stadium and I was driving back up to
my house.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
So then you call your wife and you say, what.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Basically what the team told me that hey, they're gonna
be drafting a quarterback, And you know, I think again,
I'm just like, I'm kind of rehashing with you. I
remind my wife, Hey, this is this is a big
part of my story, going back to when I committed
to Michigan State, going back to when I was drafted
to Washington, and it's always had a way of working
(24:25):
itself out, and so let's draw on past experience to
trust that the future, you know, can be the same.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
We're talking to Kirk Cousins, the Falcons quarterback. Yeah, if
the season started today, your role would be what with
the team.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
I believe I'm a starting quarterback, but health wise, oh yeah, no,
I'm I'm going to go. I've told people for a while,
uh that if the super Bowl word today, I'm playing,
And that goes back probably I think when I first
got here, I was working out and we got maybe
a week or two into my rehab and I did
(25:08):
some drills where I said, hey, if the super Bowl
were today, I'm playing, and they seem to agree. So
you know, once that tendon gets stabilized and healed and
the tissue connects, you really just are trying to work
through telling your body that you're good now because the
brain still wants to guard and protect and it takes
some time. But I feel really good and there's more
(25:29):
to go get but I can operate. I've been out
practicing now, and I think that's a great sign.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
It feels like this was a death sentence a decade ago,
and now all of a sudden, the Achilles surgery is
something that Okay, Aaron Rodgers like, has that surgery changed
further surgeries for anybody who has an Achilles injury?
Speaker 6 (25:51):
I think maybe the ACL two has been similar where
where when Gail Sayers did it, it was a death
sentence to his career. But guys do it now and
they come back stronger. Adrian Peterson does it, and you
know the next year runs for two thousand yards and
his Offensive Player of the Year. So you know, I
remember when my agent after I did the injury, we
were talking and he said, look, this used to be
a twelve month injury. Now it's a nine month injury.
(26:12):
Some guys are coming back in seven to five months,
so he said. And plus he said, you're a pocket
passing quarterback. So this just is not This is not
the issue that it might be made out to be
in the media. It just won't be that. It is reality,
and I think it's a credit to you know, the
medical advances and the rehab teams and what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Well, I don't think you can run least than you
normally do, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
I have never been a like scrambling quarterback, so it
shouldn't really change the way I play, even if I
were to not heal fully, which I expect to. But no,
I expect to be the same player, if not maybe
a little more athletic because of how aggressive I'm going
in the rehab with calf raises and jumping and leg
presses and squats and things where maybe I wouldn't normally
(26:58):
be doing that. So I should an even better lower
half than I than I've always played with. And speaking
of achilles injuries from the past, I when I first
did it, I went and looked up people like notable
people who have torn their achilles, and obviously recently it
was Aaron Rodgers, it was Megan Rapino. But I realized
there were some names going way back, like obviously Dan Marino,
(27:18):
like Judy Dench, the actress and dancers he tore achilles.
Brad Pitt, Russell Crowe, George Clooney all tore their achilles.
Al Gore tore's achilles. So I realized, like, there's a
lot of people who accomplished great things post achilles tear.
So I feel like I'm a good company.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Did you reach out to George Clooney or Brad Pitt
or Judy Dench?
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Well, I reached out to Rogers, and I know he's
you know, Rogers has a little bit bigger platform than me, right,
So I said, hey, Aaron, I said, you know, maybe
during super Bowl week or something, we have like an
achilles tear summit, in Vegas, where we get all the
heavy hitters together who have torn their achilles, and I
think with your contacts out there in California, we can
make something happen. So he seemed to agree, but we
(28:00):
just never really made it happen.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
That'd be great if you've got all these actors that
came there, Rogers, host of the seminar, get the doctor
in there, because there's still time.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
There's still time. We could have an achilles tear summit
and get all the all the heavy hitters in one room.
I think you could make for a lot of great conversation.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
How important was it to bring your family back home
for your your wife?
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Yeah, my wife is somebody who if I told her, Hey,
I'm retiring tomorrow, she'd say, no problem. If I told
her I'm playing ten more years, she'd say no problem.
If I said we're playing in Japan, she'd say, great,
the boys can go learn Japanese. So she's kind of
up for whatever, up for the adventures. She loved the
Minnesota but the fact that we're coming to Atlanta for
her family, her parents, her siblings, they're huge sports fans,
(28:45):
lifelong Atlanta sports fans. You know, I think for them.
It's hard to even believe that they have a family
member now who's playing for the Falcons, So that that's fun.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
What'd you do with all your vikings gear?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
What a great question. We do have a lot of it,
and we're putting it in boxes and then mailing it
back up to like our next door neighbor, you know,
other teammates, because we have clothes for our kids and
things where they're you know, teammates kids can use. So
we're trying to recycle, if you will, the best we can,
because we do have a lot of purple and gold
(29:18):
around and I've had a lot of friends and family
text me saying, man, the only challenge is now we
got to buy new jerseys, new hats, new sweatshirts, so
it can get expensive changing teams for your support support cast.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
How many players do you know on the team if
they don't have their jerseys on or they're not standing
by their lockers.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Yeah, another great question. You know, we have ninety guys
in the locker room, so it's not like a basketball
team where if you learn twelve to fifteen names you're good.
So I know the offense and that's partly because that's
the group I'm with at the lifts and at the meetings.
It's the defense where it's harder for me because we
just brought in a whole new cast of rookies now
(29:57):
and I don't have as many shared with the defense,
so I'm trying to learn names. But I still got
a ways to go. And even the coaching staff, I
feel like support staff and coaching staffs have almost doubled
since my rookie year in this league. So there's a
lot of a lot of support staff, which is great
to have the help, but it's a lot of names
to learn.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
But are you one of those guys that hey, Bud
like you like?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Like what do you say when you don't know who
somebody is? But you don't want to be like man,
nothing even say a low to me, like you gotta
go hey.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Yeah, no doubt. I think I think there's a lot
of that, Dan, you get it. I mean I'm walking
across the field to day to go to my next
meeting and crossing the defense and it's hey, Bud, Hey,
how you doing?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Guy?
Speaker 6 (30:36):
You know? So you have to do it?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
You do.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Plus, if I said to everybody, hey, what's your name?
What's your name, what's your name? There's a good chance
I forget it, you know, by the time I get
through the next lift. So it's just a process. And uh,
I haven't yet gone home and like really tried to
like study names with flash cards, but it may be
something I have to do if it drags on.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
How about name tags?
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Hello, my name is Name tags are a game changer.
In college Michigan State, Mark D'Antonio, it was mandatory at
training camp no matter who you were, you had to
wear a tape name on your helmet or on your
shirt if you were a coach. So even coach Stantonio
had a deal of coach Stantonio, nobody was immune. So
(31:16):
that would really help new guys certainly if we can
just all have name tags.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Before I let you go. You've you're a good businessman
or somebody? Do you know as a good businessman because
you you and Darrell Reves have had two unbelievably financial,
great financial careers making really good decisions.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
No, I appreciate the kind words that It really goes
back to my agent, Mike McCartney. I just kind of
did what he told me over the last twelve years.
I remember when Joe Flacco was playing in the Super
Bowl my rookie year. I didn't know anything about contracts
or how the league works, and my agent in New
Orleans the week of the game explained to me Joe's
situation now he was going to be a free agent,
(31:58):
that the franchise tag is something that a team would use,
that it's probably in Joe's best interest to be tagged,
play on that tag twice, and then go to the market.
And me explained this whole path, not knowing that in
four years, three years from that moment, we would be
living out that path. And so my agent explained to me.
Then when it came our turn, he said, unless we
(32:18):
can do a fully guaranteed contract over three years, we
will just play on the franchise tag, and so that
was what was offered. That was what was explained. The
team chose not to do that. We played on the
two franchise tags and then went to the market, and
then we did a three year, fully guaranteed contract. So
I pretty much just did what Mike McCartney told me.
His wisdom proved to be true, and I've just kind
(32:40):
of followed his hit him every step of the way,
and we'll see where it goes from here, he joked.
When we signed with the Falcons. As he was leaving
the building, he said to the staff, he said, we'll
see you guys in three years.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
With the exception.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
I thought it was a good line, So we'll see
if you know where it goes from here.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Well, you're able to go out and buy another minivan,
and really, that's that's your quality of life, isn't it.
That is that your big splurge, that you get a
minivan for the family.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
You know, I've kind of been known as a guy
who's pretty cheap, and I will say that I do
have a bit of a like everything I spend on
has to have like usefulness, has to have utility. So
if a conversion ban can have utility for my family,
I'm going to get a nice conversion van. But yeah,
like when people say, oh, are you gonna get some chains,
(33:27):
Are you gonna get an awesome sports car, it's like, well,
the utility is not really there, so it's hard for
me to get excited about it. But yeah, I mean,
I don't want the narrative be that I don't spend money,
because believe me, I've I've flown on a private jet before.
You know, I've done some nice things. I bought a
golf course in my hometown. So you know, when there's
utility or I see a reason to do it, I'll
(33:49):
write to check, just like anybody else. But I also
can get pretty cheap if I don't see the utility
in it.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Great to talk to you, Good luck again with the rehab,
and we'll hope we'll check in with you when you
start the season.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Yeah, great catching up always good to see. It takes
me back even to my college days and we had
our first interviews. And happy birthday to you and excited
for thirty many more up ahead.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Thank you, bun Kirk d Cousins.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 3 (34:25):
Scotty Scheffler had a good first round. He's the prohibitive
favorite here, even though Xander Schoffley shot a record sixty two,
a record tying sixty two in his opening round. He's
going to the golf course early this morning, around three
hours before his tea time he was supposed to tee off. Already,
there's a rain delay, and now his tea time has
(34:48):
been moved back to little after ten o'clock. So he
was arrested and released. Now there's certain things that pop
up on your phone and you go that can't be true.
Scotty Scheffler arrested Scotty Scheffler, and then you see the
video the reporting. Jeff Darlington has done a wonderful job
on the Mothership and he was booked with four different charges. Now,
(35:11):
there was an accident where there was a fatality, and
so there was a long line of people trying to
get into the golf course. And he's got a courtesy car.
It says on the side it's a courtesy car, and
usually you let those people go into the golf course.
Everybody else is going to be on a shuttle bus.
They'll park someplace, usually half a mile away, and then
(35:32):
shuttle buses will bring the fans in. So Scotty was
trying to go in to the golf course and Jeff
Darlington was in the car behind Scotty Scheffler, the ESPN reporter,
and he had this to say earlier this morning on
Sports Center.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
To be very clear about the details here, Scotty Scheffler
has been detained by police officers, placed in the back
of a police vehicle in handcuffs after he tried to
pull around what he believed to be security ended up
being police officers.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
They told him to stop.
Speaker 8 (36:08):
When he didn't stop, the police officer attached himself to
the vehicle. Scheffer then traveled another ten yards before stopping
the car. The police officer then grabbed at his arm,
attempting to pull him out of the car, before Scheffler
eventually opened the door, at which point the police officer
pulled Scheffler out of the car, pushed him up against
(36:30):
the car, and immediately placed him in handcuffs.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
He got a mugshot. He's been released. Here are the
charges assault second degree on a police officer, criminal mischief,
third degree, reckless driving, disregarding signals from officers directing traffic.
Jeff Darlington, who has done a great job reporting, did
say that Scheffler didn't realize it was a police officer
(36:54):
there in a neon yellow slicker and he wasn't able
to see that he was a police officer. It was dark,
it was really early in the morning, before six am,
and there's a long line of traffic. He is trying
to go in and he has the markings on his
car that allow him to do that. The officer maybe
(37:16):
saw him disregarding what he said, just stop. There had
been a fatality, and Scotty kept going, and then all
of a sudden, the officer attached himself to the car.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Scotty stopped.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Now this according to eyewitnesses, They grab him, They take
him out of the car, They handcuff him. They don't
even know it's Scotty Scheffler. In fact, Jeff Darlington gets
out of his car to tell the officers who he is.
They tell Jeff Darlington get back in his car and
he says, I'm member of the press. They still don't
want him around the situation, and they go who did
(37:48):
we arrest and he said this, according to eyewitness reports,
Scotty Scheffler.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
So they took Scheffler to jail.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Now, if there wasn't a delay due to the rain
in Louisville, and he would have missed his tea time.
He has to be able to get to the first
tee before the players in his group finish their hole.
So he will be penalized if that's the case, But
he could still if he gets there late. Now golf,
(38:17):
there's a routine that they have. That's why they get there,
usually two and a half to three hours in advance.
Because they get there, they stretch, they work out, they
have breakfast, they get dressed, they go to the practice range,
so there's a long then they go to the putting green,
and then they go to the first team. They're usually there.
They usually allow about a three hour window here. He
(38:39):
won't have that luxury at all. But can he get
there for his tea time? It's a little after ten o'clock,
so a little bit more than an hour from now,
can he get there? And I don't even know if
he'll have time to warm up. I don't know if
he'll have time for the routine. And then to go
out there and play golf after you've been arrested, and
we know this is a mental game, but to go
(39:01):
out there after you've been in handcuffs in a police car,
you've been booked, you got a mugshot. He even has
the the jail orange, the jumpsuit on. So this is
a serious situation. Obviously, somebody lost their life earlier this morning.
That created the long delay. Then you had the weather
(39:23):
and Scottie Scheffler. Now, can he get to the golf
course in time for his second round?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah, Paul, I have a couple updates.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
Jason Sowell of Serious XM Golf said Scheffler's tea time
was changed from eight twenty eight to ten oh eight am.
Under rule five point three, the committee decides an exceptional
circumstances preventing you from starting on time, So it appears
they gave him a little wigger room beyond the weather
to start later.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
And this is.
Speaker 9 (39:49):
From golf dot Com about half an hour ago. Scotty
Scheffler has been released from the jail and will be
at Valhalla in fifteen minutes. That was at eight forty
am local time.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Okay, so he's going to get there and he'll have
an hour to get ready. But you can't change his
tea time without changing the tea time of the other
players who are going to play with him.
Speaker 9 (40:10):
That we're trying to figure out, but there seems to
be an exception.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yeah, I don't know how that works because the other
two golfers playing with him, then you're changing their tea
time as well. And I know number one player in
the world. You want to accommodate him. But you know,
this goes back to what leagues can do and not do.
Go back to what happened with the Phoenix Suns san
Antonio Spurs many many years ago when Amari Stademyer got
(40:38):
off the bench, didn't fight anybody with san Antonio, but
he was suspended and the commissioner was not hearing anything.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
He was like, no, he broke a rule, and that's it.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I don't know if you go out of your way
to accommodate Scotti Scheffler, but if there is an exception
rule and you're able to accommodate him, I'd like to
know what happens with the other golfers who are playing
with him.
Speaker 9 (41:01):
It does appear that his group Wyndham Clark and I
got It and Brian Harmon are all moved to ten
oh eight am okay, and appears the whole group has
unmoved that time.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
So we'll keep an eye on this and let you
know if he gets there. I'm assuming he will get there. Now,
how did they accommodate him this time around? Does he
get a police escort from the police department to the
jail to get to the golf course? And I would
have somebody else drive him. But I'm assuming he'll be
(41:36):
there and he'll be able to play. You know, he
doesn't make headlines. He didn't say anything. He's pretty sedate.
And all of a sudden, of all the people, if
I said a golfer got arrested this morning, you would
have said Scottie Scheffler if I gave you one hundred guesses.
(41:57):
But here he is arrested, mugshot, four charges, and now
he heads to the golf course trying to win another.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Major degree of difficulty.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
I know Tiger's done some incredible things, but degree of
difficulty out of a jail cell, out of a jumpsuit,
onto the first tea, and can you imagine how the
crowd is going to respond to him. They will be
all over in his corner, cheering for Scottie Scheffler. He's
(42:29):
one of us. He got in trouble, jail to the
first t Wow on a morning, how do you get
your head straight? So just yesterday, his second shot, the
second shot he's had since his wife had their baby.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
He has an eagle.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
He holds out from one hundred and seventy yards out
and you're like, all right, welcome to fatherhood.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Here.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
It's going to be great. Now all of a sudden,
you're gonna get there today. You're gonna rush. How many
balls a you're gonna be able to hit on the rain?
Do you go to the putting green? You gotta get ready. Mentally,
you gotta get ready. And ladies and gentlemen, Scotty Scheffler,
that crowd.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Is going to go crazy. Wow, what a day, What
a day. And it's just after nine o'clock. Then, what
a day.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Scotty Scheffler has just arrived, I believe, at the golf course.
Just arrived at the golf course. He's got a little
less than an hour to get ready. He's getting out
of his car. Oh boy, he's going in the clubhouse.
(43:45):
Gonna get ready. That is going to be quick, yes, yes,
all right. See remember it was Scotty versus the field.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Literally.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Okay, I'm wondering if draft Can has updated odds here he.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Took on that whole field of police. Yeah, that's it.
I'm getting through.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Xander Schoffley is the big favorite.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
That it's Scotty Scheffler and Rory Uh, followed by Brooks
Koepka and Colin Morikawa.
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