July 6, 2024 • 55 mins
Covino and Rich step in for Dan Patrick and kick the week off with a bang, as the GOAT of professional eating Joey Chestnut stops by ahead of the controversial July 4th Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest that barred Chestnut from competing this year. Was Patrick Mahomes' mom throwing shade at Tom Brady this week? Plus, Doug Gottlieb and Dan Beyer finish off the week for DP and preview a college football season that will be unlike any we have ever seen.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
All yeah, Well, in a second, we're going to talk
to you the man of the hour, the guy that
we talked about every fourth of July, Joey Chestnup.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But co mean, I one thought.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I looked this up and there's no real answer as
to why everyone passed on Aaron Judge back in the day,
because he's doing just remarkable things in baseball now. The
only thing I could take out of it is he
was six 't seven, skinny and struck out a lot.
But even when he was drafted by the Yankees, you
know what the sentiment was. The sentiment was Aaron Judge,
(00:59):
he probably won't have him played for the Yankees because
they have such a deep roster. His agent said, don't
get too comfortable with the pinstripes. You're probably not gonna
stay here. And that's exactly what was said to Aaron
Judge back in the day.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
All right, well, without further ado, let's not make the legend. Wait,
it's that Joey Chestnut time of the year everybody, So
with glory and renown, we have a surprise guest visit
from the Man, the mid the Legend. Let's welcome Fox
Sports Radio Nation. I'm building it up. Do you like
this build up? Joey Chestnut, welcome Bay.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Oh, get on with you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, man, congrats on everything. I want to talk about
what's going on this weekend and all the news. But
what's it like for you when you're Joey Chestnut and
you just open up social media or just Google news
and you see stories about yourself everywhere? Do you read them?
Do you care? Do you get excited about that?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I care?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
The holding's crazy and I uh, this whole it's been
a wild ride and I'm still loving competitive eating and
I don't know where it's gonna take me, but I'm
I'm all in.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Hey, Joey, does the Nathan's contest even matter? Now that
you're not in it, is it like just sort of
does it have any credit with no Joey Chestnut in it?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I mean, it's it's still an awesome contest fourth of July.
It's the way people celebrate.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
That.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
People celebrate for the July competitive eating and they love
a hot dog. So it definitely has the place in
my heart. But dude, they kind of banned me for
reasons that don't still don't make sense. I mean, they
can twist and turn it, but uh, they've changed the
terms of our agreement and they uh, and they banned
me leaguing conversations and uh, that's the way it went.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Do you think they're gonna feel the impact and your
value because you were sort of the hype You were
the hype man and reason most people tuned in. So
is there a part of you that wants them to
miss you? Was like, you don't want them to carry
on and do great without You're right? So what are
your feelings about that?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, it's it's like a weird breakup. As soon as
a girlfriend says they don't want to be with you anymore,
it's like, oh good luck, I'm not I'm not trying
to make them regret it. I'm moving on and I'm
I'm I'm having a great time. I'm gonna celebrate for
July and I'm gonna still be eating hot dogs.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
You know, it's, uh, the analogy of the breakup's good
because when you break up, you're like, yeah, I wish
you well, but not too well.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And and what's what's interesting, It's like I'm stealing it
for Dan Patrick. I'm sure he wants us to do well,
but not that great, not that.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Right, Joey, would you say have all your highlights back
in the day in the world of competitive eating.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
We were talking about this just the other.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Day mid contest when some guy jumped on stage and
you like, stiffed arm. You stiff armed him mid hot dog.
Do you feel like that's your best? Is that your
coolest moment?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
That was that was one of the wildest moments. It
didn't make sense. I had a broken leg at the time,
and uh it was. It was crazy. Yeah, I remember
thinking to do what's happening and once once that timer starts,
that doesn't stop. So I had to get back to
eating and pull out the way.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You know what I love about that You're in your zone, right, Like,
you're so in your zone and it was just a
natural reaction because most people don't know how they would
react in the moment, and your natural reaction was that
of an action star. So I give you a lot
of credit for that, Joey Chestnut the badass, because I
don't know what I would have been in that moment.
I really don't ask them to ly who knows.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I'm sure you would have done it because I, like,
I've been training for the event for almost two months
and I wasn't gonna let anybody get in between me
and the dogs.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Now, now let's break this down. Because we heard that
you weren't doing the Nathan's Competition, right, we heard this,
But then a few weeks before, maybe even about a
month before, we heard that Kobe Yashi was retiring to
focus on his health. Then out of nowhere we read,
you guys are doing win this big Netflix special? Was
(05:02):
that Labor Day? Weekend Labor day? You're doing his Netflix deal.
So a part of me, and I'm just saying, how
I felt in that moment, felt like, what did he
have this up his sleeve the whole time? How did
that work? Give us the scoop?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah, we've been working on Me and Kobe actually been
talking for over a year and trying trying to figure
out a way to do it. And he he had
a falling out with Major League Eating and Nathan's years ago,
and I was I was hopeful there was a way
we could all I could do this event and and
uh and I was excited. It's uh, it's uh, dude,
(05:38):
at the big deals. This like my biggest rivalry, my
biggest rival ever.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Does he have a shot? Like I know, he's your
greatest competition, He's one of the biggest names out there,
but in reality, does he have a chance to beat you?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Oh my god, I don't want to. There's one person
crazy enough to do it, to push themselves to that
crazy limit, it's him. And like you, he was putting
out with this information like he was going to retire,
and that came out right because he was also it
took him a while to sign the contract, and then
then he told his manager and told my manager that
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he's all in and he's trying to go for records,
and uh, I believe that way more than believing that
he was ever close to retiring.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Joey, this is you know, your own personal, private sort
of deal. But I'm imagining your Netflix deal to do
this was big. Does it matter how many people watch?
Or did they just work out one sort of contract
with you?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You know, I'm not usually I don't don't talk about contract,
but it is, uh yeah, it's a it's a I
think there's a prize involved, which is will be the
biggest prize in competitive eating. Cool okay, and uh yeah,
this is the biggest showdown ever and it's uh and
(06:59):
and Netflix is not messing around. They They're They're making
this biggest hot dog eating content ever.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Only time. I mean, Netflix got the cash.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
So I can only imagine Joey Chestnut hanging with Camino
on Richie on Fox Sports Radio. Now, you said, Kobyashi,
and you both have beef no pun attended with competitive
eating with the major league eating. That would be like
the NFL saying yo, mahomes Josh Allen like, yeah, we
don't need you a big mistake.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Is there someone still in that.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
World that you that that maybe you mentored or someone like,
is there an up and comer? Because I don't know
anyone besides you, Kobyashi. I remember back in the day
we interviewed a guy crazy Legs Kanti is there like
some new guy that anyone should have been look out for.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
You know, there's some awesome eaters. There's the guy out
of Australia. He's very very good. This guy any of
the sweetheart good dude. I would hate to see that
the mustard belt leave America, but there's a very good
chance he'll be going. It'll be going to Australia. There's
a guy out of Boston, very very good dude. Jeff
(08:00):
and Jeff Esper. Nice guy, he's capable of a mid
fifties and and it's one of the things I'm talking
to these guys and now that I'm not there, they
feel like it's time for them to they can hopefully
get their personal best and uh and I understand that
they can feel like they can spread their wings because
they have a chance.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
We now remember reading that Esper said if he won,
he'd put an asterisk next to the victory because he
wasn't competing against the best. That had to make you
feel good.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
He's a great dude. He's a class act and he man.
We messaged each other and I'm i a spot for him.
He's a nice guy.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Hey, Joey second in line as far as like, we
get excited about the hot dog contests and everything, So
what's second after that? As far as competition in major
league eating? What's the next big thing that you might
blow up? After hot dogs?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Oh? After hot dogs? They just had a blooney eating
contest in May and it was pretty awesome. They actually
almost got it on ESPN, which might have.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
The all time record. Didn't you go up just eating
blooney sandwiches? Rich dude?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I think I hold the record in nineteen eighty nine
third grade. Yeah, record, that's all his mom made for. Yeah, Joey,
let me ask you this, if you are to recommend
the right way to eat a hot dog, like, if
you're not you know, dipping them in water and you know,
shoving them down your throat, you know, winning records and
money and breaking all these you know, breaking these records.
Are you grilling it on the barbecue? Do you like
(09:38):
a boiled hot dog? Or is that grossy? Like if
you would actually try to enjoy a dog, how does
Joey chest not eat it?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And what do you put on it? Mustard?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Ketchup relish some of those red New York City onions. Like,
what's a Joey chest not perfect dog?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah, I'm a boiled hot dog. Grinds my gears I love.
I love a flatop griddle, I'll do. I like charcoal
a grill, although the way we can taste the charcoal
a little bit, uh topping raw onions, mustard, I'll get.
I love going southern California, getting getting the street dogs
wrapped in bacon with with onions and peppers and even
(10:13):
mayonnaise on there. I uh yes, I love to eat.
But yeah, you're absolutely right for pleasure. I'm not dipping
those things in water.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Did you cut slits in them when you're you're grilling them?
Do you cut slits at the end or like, you know,
do you have a special technique we should try out
this holiday weekend.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
No cutting slits in it, that's that's our shelter. No,
you want flowers on.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
There too, Joey Chestnut, Hey, Joey, tell us about what's
going on at Fort Bliss.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Oh yeah, yeah. So after that, I got uh told
I couldn't compete on at Coney Island. Fort Bliss reached out.
I've been doing some uh some work with the military
in the past and they reached out and invited me
to therefore their life celebrations. So I'm going down to
El Paso, gonna be eating hot dogs against a group
of soldiers, all beef hot dogs, and uh, it's gonna
(11:09):
be great. I'm gonna be pushing hard and dude, on
top of that, my partner Impossible. They're gonna be donating
one thousand dollars to Operation Homeland for every every hot
dog I eat, and there it's gonna be yeah, yeah,
there be donate. Oh my god, I'm gonna put down
at least fifty hot dogs in those five minutes.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Dude, that's awesome, awesome, Yeah, that's cool to have something
to check out this weekend.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Joey, let me let me ask you one thing about
the impossible Nathan's relationship or lack thereof. Tell us how
it actually did go down. Was it did your company
did Impossible Foods? They say, hey, listen, we're we're open
to this, We're okay within competing, and Nathan's was the
one that shut it down.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Like what was the detail that sort of blew this?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah, well, my relationship is impossibly.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
It goes back a little while because I I've told
people for years and years that after I after I
eat tons of hot dogs or tons of blowny uh,
I am on a super clean diet and and I
do meatless mondays and so so it was it was
kind of a natural thing. I can't eat eat pounds
and pounds of meat every day and and I uh
(12:18):
and I enjoy impossible product and impossible it's it's different
enough from from hot dogs, and that it wasn't it
was never part of it was never excluded any of
my agreements with with Methans, Nathan's and Majally eating and well,
as soon as they found out that I was working
with them, they they said, no, no, you have to
(12:39):
you have to cancel that agreement. They were very controlling
and then uh then they started leaking things to the
press media saying I was vegan, and it was it was,
it was.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
It was weird the way they handle it. And uh
I most people can say, well, you know, a plant
based hot dog is not the same as I'll be
a hot dog, and they shouldn't. They shouldn't feel so threatened.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I have two more questions for you, Joey. Each bummer man,
It is a bummer man, But you know what I'm
glad we still get to see you this weekend. Since
you're talking about hot dogs and vegan hot dogs and
bolooney and all these crazy things you eat. Have you
ever had I'm from Jersey. Have you ever had Tailor Ham?
Are you a fan of Tailor Ham? Some coil it?
Pork roll?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Oh my god? Yea well pork roll? Yeah, I hold
the record for in southern I no.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No, no, let's be clear. I'm from Jersey. I hold
the record in pork roll sandwiches. But I'm just kidding.
But do you like it?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I love it? You know, it grills up nice and
and it's that perfect degree of fat and oily and salty.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Oh yeah, no, it's so great. I'm so guy.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
What other records? A lot of people here wondering what
other records do you hold?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Oh dude, I have some awesome ones. So that guy
I said that blooney one for Elmhill baloney. That was
fourteen pounds of blowny and eight minutes, thirteen pounds the
rib meat and twelve minutes. And one of my favorite
is harbled eggs. One hundred and forty one horrible days
in eight minutes.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
That's that's amazing, dude. And you know what, that's absurd?
Did you hear that? Dude? I can't even imagine, because
you know what, we all did some damage this past
weekend and we're probably going to do that again this
holiday we can coming up. So my last question for
Joey Chestnut here on the Cavino and Rich Show and
for DP is how do you balance that out? Like,
you know, we've met you a few times. You're in
(14:31):
great shape, but what's your gym routine like to balance
out all this damage you do?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Oh? The big the biggest thing is cutting calories before
and after as soon as soon as I can start
eating a super high fiber diet in greens, no sugar,
and it's it sucks. I even have to bringing beer
afterward because as soon as I start having carved that's
when the weight really stays on me. But if I
clean afterwards, I can I can easily back to my
(14:59):
normal wait in about four days. And uh, yeah, it
takes it takes a little bit of a discipline to
make sure that, uh that wait doesn't stay on me.
And uh because if I if I start gaining weight
every weekend, then I start losing contests and and uh,
it's losing sucks.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Hey, Joey, I got to ask because we we bumped
into uh all, you know, back at serious XM days.
I remember one year I hosted a Hooters pageant and
you and Covino were two of the judges.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
You, I, do you feel like?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I feel like everywhere I go people love to talk
to Joey Chessna. Do you love your level fame where
you're not like some A list guy. Everyone's just sort
of like, but they know who you are, Like, Hey,
Joey Chesna, do you sort of love that pocket?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Oh, it's it's a great pocket. Because there are critics
of competitive eating, and very few of those critics ever
recognized me. And it's not like like we're a regular athlete.
Like Charles Barkley. There's people who hate him and then
they yell at him and you have to get in
a fight. Usually the people who hate competitiviating don't don't
don't ever let they don't recognize me, and I don't
have to get the fights about it. Uh, it's only
(16:02):
it's great dudes. And uh and it's eagle a party
and we get to talk about food.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Well, it's always a pleasure running into you and having
you on the show. And I want to say this.
You know, we often talk about goats, Tom Brady's, Michael Jordan's,
but there's some people that are left out of the conversation.
You know, who brings up Michael Phelps. Not too many people, right,
you want to talk about Gretzky moving forward, Guys, especially
around this time of year, we always got to remember
(16:30):
there's only one Joey chest nutt and he is the goat,
and he's on our show. And we thank you very
much man, look forward to show this weekend.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
No, thank you man so again, catch Man fort Bliss
el Paso. And again we're really happy Danny G got
him on the line this morning. As you know, Uh,
he's a regular in the fifth hour of Ben Mallor
and we were glad to spend a few minutes with
Joey chestnut n LBP show.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Because of that. I don't know if you know the
deal Danny G made. You now have to compete against
Ben Mallard in a hoto getting hot test.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yes, I don't know who's got that one. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Oh, Ben, he's on these fasts for like sometimes half
a week, it seems like, really yeah, I think Covino
could take him out unless Ben is just coming off
his last fast yo.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Ben is a big boy man. And again we borrow
the mean he's moneyball mallard. Do you have a nickname
like that? You mean moneyball math. People call him moneyball
Mat and we borrow disappearance from Moneyball Mallard. And again
thanks again to Danny g and Ben for letting us
have Joey Chestnut here for this moment, because again every
day there's like breaking news on Joey Chestnut and we
(17:39):
share that with you today. So something to look forward
to in the world of competitive eating and all the
controversy surrounding it, you know what, not talking out of
both sides of my mouth.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I take it back, because he's eating beef dogs on
the fourth of July. They're not vegan dogs. He is
the goat, and for you know, I do make fun
of El Passo. Sorry I'll passo. But from what Joey
chestnutt described, it does seems like it does seem like Nathan's.
It's clear they're the ones that sort of we're reluctant
to let this happen. Like if impossible Foods and Joey
(18:12):
Chessnut were like, hey, listen, I'll still do it.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I want to do it.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
And Nathan's took like a weird hard stand like we're
not doing it, Like aren't they like aren't they screwing
themselves over?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
In a bit obviously, because I don't think it's much
of a he wants to not put it down because
it meant so much to him and it built his career,
but it's not much of a competition without Joey Chestnut man,
no doubt, no doubt. Will listen.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
We have plenty to get to here on Covino and
Rich Listen, there's a hilarious guest that attended a sports
wedding over the weekend, and I want to talk about
unlikely friendships in the world of sports and entertainment.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Plus some big trades already going down, not trades, more
free agent signings in the NBA. So a little NBA,
little football, a little of everything. Fourth of July week
Kevino Rich in for the Great Dan Patrick from the
Mercedes Benz Studio.
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Speaker 2 (19:44):
You know what I want tonight?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I want everyone to give extra oohs and ohs at
the fireworks show and then do what everyone else does
when it's over.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
You say, that's it. Less, it was better? Was that
the finale was that it? It's all.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
That's it.
Speaker 9 (20:00):
Don't forget to film it with your iPhone.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, and film it with your iPhone. And that being said,
stick around and never watch it later next hour when
fifty hits Every Thursday on the Covino on Rich Show,
we throw it back old School and fifty Hits, and
we're gonna be talking about things that were cool that
should have never went out of style. I don't know
how cool it was, but I don't hear people go ooh.
(20:24):
I don't hear that anymore when it comes to the fireworks.
Either way, we are Coveno and Rich. Day four of
the Dan Slam In for Dan Patrick eight seven, seven
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well Thursday's the new Friday, especially this holiday weekend, we
do weekend hobnobbing. What you need to watch in the
(21:06):
world of sports and entertainment, all right, so stick around
and enjoy something.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Danny G said, I want to reiterate because it's the
number one answer on the board dumbest things people record
on their smartphones. Number one answer is firework shows.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Just enjoy the moment, put your armor on, your kid,
have a drink in the other hand, relaxed.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
If you take out your iPhone to record.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Fireworks, do you realize how ridiculous and stupid you look?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
No one ever looks back at this crap. We know
that it's just taking up space and storage, But most
of the intention is to say, later on, look at
me and see where I am and see what I did.
You're not sharing, You're bragging on social media, and yeah,
your firework display is a weird flex and a weird brag.
(21:53):
But people are filming concerts and things like that, and
moments at a ballgame, and it really is less of
a shame. Sometimes it's a share, I get it, But
most of the time it's just hey, look where I'm at.
What are you doing today? I'm just having that thought
rich in between our segments here, our discussions are hanging
(22:13):
on Fox Sports Radio. I'm on social media just seeing
if any news is broke, and I'm like, look at
all these brokeass people on vacation while am I working
on Fourth of July? And all these brokeasts do nothings
that I know are somewhere sweet on vacation in a
foreign land. You know how I know that because they're
all bragging on social media. Yeah, you know, look at
(22:33):
it this way.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
If you break out your phone and you take five
seconds of like, oh, there's my family sitting on lawn
chairs and all the happy fourth, that's one thing.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
But to break out your phone to record the fireworks.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
The fireworks, the concert. Don't do it. Yeah, it's just
a waste. Just enjoy your fireworks tonight and have a
great one, a safe one, keep all your fingers intact,
and don't go dying on me. By the way, my
grandma died on the fourth of July. Way to bring
it up, Rich, it's true story. It's true. My teetha
passed away today. It's the anniversary. Thanks again, bro, thanks
(23:08):
again for bringing up all my childhood trump geez a
chicken coop death and yeah, thanks Rich, really is a
morning show. Why don't you ruin my holiday.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Hot dog eating contest?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
No? No, no, just old age. Yeah. Rest in peace
to my teethda true story.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
By the way, speaking of hot dogs, we'll hear a
little bit from Joey Chestnut next hour.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
He was on our show a couple of days ago.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
But you got to imagine it's a weird morning for him, right,
Like he's used to this routine of Nathan's Fourth of
July Coney Island, and today he's waking up in El Paso,
Texas and he's probably thinking, like a time to move along.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
He's used to the damn Patrick show. He's like, what
are these guys yapping about? So he's used to chicken coops.
But we did say it's the fourth of July, and
you know that, helpe, you are enjoying your sleep, in
your day off, whatever you're doing, getting ready to We
have lots to get to. But what makes July significant
is not only the fourth of July, not only your
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little family get away, but football is just a month out.
It's crazy. How cool was that? It really is?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Like the excitement of a new football season gets me
every time.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Now Hard Knocks is back on TV. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes
is in the news. Now Mahomes is in the news.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
And I know you're a fan of calling it out
when I sneak this people and I don't even realize
I'm doing it.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I'm like, dude, that wasn't a sneak diss. I'm sorry.
Like it's just your condescending way. It's like, yo, those
rules may apply with your wiener friends or I don't know,
kids you grew up with, or people outside of the show.
Don't fly with me, don't fly with Spot. It's like,
because we pick up on it, we talk to you
so often, I don't know if you know this. Things
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like that, Like it's just the condescending tone in which
you're the greatest guy and you're the smartest guy and
you're the dude who did all the diligence, and then
you leave us out of the conversation. You'll include us
in something whack, but if it's awesome, it's me me, me,
me me, And it's just that sort of thing. It's like, wait,
hold on, Rich'll tell the weakest story, right, like remember
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you were there, and I'm like, yeah, I remember, And
then he'll tell the greatest story and leave me out
of it and be like, yeah, I was there, you
remember that, right, I was there issue and you know
I was also the one that told you X, Y,
and Z and now you're taking this story. So Rich
has always sneaked this and in ways like that. It's
just I don't even know if he realizes he doesn't,
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but I think he does. It's just the way he is.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I'm bringing you down. Well, curious what you think about this,
Patrick Mahomes, Danny sent us a headline and upon further digging, Danny,
not only mahomes mom, but Mahomes has made a lot
of comments and they have to do with not playing
late in his career. The headline you sent was Patrick
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mahomes mom says he definitely won't play until forty five
like Tom because he plans on prioritizing family.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
And is like, ooh, is.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
That like a not playing until forty five like Tom
because he plans on prioritizing family. If you emphasize the
word he, it's like because he plans on prioritizing family.
Depends on how you read it, right, because' like is
she saying that it's like Tom's.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
It's like a very mom way of of giving you
a backhanded sort of this like it's so evident, but
it's a mom way. It's like you know when mom
say certain things like well, well, I don't know about you,
but he does, and you're like, Mom, I know you're
talking about me. And then she'll say, well, if the
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shoe fits, but she's pretending like she's not saying it,
but she is saying it. That's really what mahomes mom
is doing here. She's pulling a mom sort of Jeni
trick of saying, well, I'm not saying that about Tom,
but if you want to interpret it that way, then
be my guest. It's a very mom backhanded way of
telling you how it is.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Well, Patrick, mahomes mom has a telling comment on when
he'll retire. I don't know if you want to read
some of the quotes I got him here. I know
you're you love doing your Mahomes He said something to
the effect of, oh, well, yes, Look, if I played
until Tom's age, my daughters would be nineteen twenty years old.
That would be missing plenty of youth sporting events and
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other commitments. I feel like it's taken away from family time.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
Hey, you I grew up my dad played sports and
he was always like I was at the twins, and
then he was with Richie's crappy mits, and I just
want to be there, you know, when my kids are
playing sports, and you know, time loves fast, and I
just want to be there more than my dad was there.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And uh, just that sort of thing. He also remembered
grew up where his dad probably prioritized pitching a lot.
I'm not saying his dad was there. I know his
dad one of his biggest fans of supporters, but he
knows what it's like to have his dad dedicate his
time to his craft. And maybe he's like, yeah, you
know what, I want to be there a little more
often than Patrick Pat Mahomes Senior.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Yeah, I mean, Mahomes is twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Brady played till forty five.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
So it's lofty to even think, like, yo, does Mahomes
have seventeen more years in him, which just seems so fake.
That number doesn't even seem real. Like to play until
Brady played, Mahomes would have to play seventeen more years.
That seems absurd when you think about how long Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well, Mahomes never the goat unless he surpasses Tom when
it comes to rings. So he's got a lot of
winning to do. And I think I think what he
says may be true if he's able to get much
closer when it comes to super Bowl victories. I don't know,
because I think that's what's gonna keep him around longer.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Do you think, though, that the gauge of goatness in
the NFL will be rings?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I know you're gonna say, well, he's been why would
that change?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
But all right, let's say Mahomes place till thirty five
and he walks away when he's still totally capable, but
he wins two more and Mahomes is five time super
Bowl winner, like just at thirty five is like, yeah,
you know what I'm saying, it's time, like you would
with ten years left on the table compared to Brady
forty five.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I mean, part of Brady's career and why he was
so successful is his longevity. The dude made health the priority.
He stuck it out. He won a few more, he
won one toward the end of his career. Like for
Mahomes to be the goat, he would have to do
something similar, really start winning now and get some some
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more Super Bowls under his belt. And I think that
any great competitor and that he is, is gonna want
to shoot their shot being the best. So he says
that now, but we'll see what happens in the future.
Look think of how many players retire and come back.
How many fighters retire and come back because they have
that itch, because they left some on the table, they
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had more gas left. So I don't know that would
be he says that now, I don't know if he's
that willing to give it up. But on the flip side,
nothing wrong with prioritizing your family. But we're talking greatness here.
You know, greatness comes along few and far between. You
can leave quietness on the table. You can still be
a good dad and try to be great at the
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same time.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Is it a diss Do you look at that as
a diss or? Like yo, this has nothing to do
with Tom Brady. When mahomes or his mom says, oh well, well,
Patrick says he's gonna prioritize family. He's not gonna play
till forty five. Is that as you as your mom
would say, if the shoe fits.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Is that saying, oh well, look at Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
He didn't prioritize family, and look at him now, he's
forty six, forty seven, divorced, he's getting roasted, and his
ex wife hates and his kids, and.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Like if we see we work in media and you're
always looking for that salacious ooh, that juicy story, like
oh man, And I don't want to overdissect, but I
do feel like there is something there.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I do feel this as much as just a template.
Like like if I saw someone, you know, you see
someone put their hands on a hot stove, they burn it,
You're not gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
He might say.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Listen, with all due respect, you know, Tom's my hero legend,
but he might say, I see what happens when you
play till forty five and your kids grow up before
your very eyes and you're not there all the time.
I don't, with all due respect, I'm not gonna take
that path. Is that a sneak disc or just a realization?
Speaker 10 (31:42):
And you know, I love football, but I just want
to prioritize my family and not do what Tom Brady did.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I kind of think there's something going on there. That
guy really blew it up with what the mom said,
like you don't want to it's and you know what,
it's not a diss if you take from the standpoint
of maybe Patrick Mahomes and his mom was insinuating.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Because I saw what could happen when you don't prioritize
your family.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
In his family and with Brady, you know, it is
true that Brady not that he doesn't love his family,
but he started to prioritize football.
Speaker 9 (32:23):
He hates his family.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
No, I'm not saying that, but his family. It didn't
work out right because he prioritized football towards the end,
and I'm sure there's a lot of other things, and
he maybe even prioritized football because there was trouble in Paradise.
It was probably a combination of both. But you see
what happens when work. Look, dude, hey maybe if I
didn't take that TV job in New York, I could
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have kept my family together. But it puts a guy
in a tough situation when you have to work and
you have to put bread on the table. You have
to be a provider, but you also have to be
a family guy. You know, those are tough choices to make.
Patrick Mahomes a luxury that most people and men especially
don't have. He does have the luxury to say, well,
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I don't have to do it if I don't want to,
because I'm fine, I'm successful, and I could call it
a day. I have nothing to prove, and I could
be there for my family. But will he feel like
he still has something to prove? That's really the question here.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
We live in a different generation now where dad's more
than anything.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
You know, moms have always been involved, right.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
But we live in a different world now where I
saw a stat that said the percentage of dads that
change diapers and do kids baby things is so astronomically
different than our parents' generation. Like my mom would always
say stuff like, you.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Know your father never changed one diaper.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Let's be fair, I changed too. So is it a
sneak diss or not?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Can you know, do you take it as a sneak
diss because you know you might think I'm sneak dissing
you right now?
Speaker 5 (33:56):
When you hear people mock people to.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Get married in Vegas like it'll work, and you got
married in Vegas and you're divorced, is do you ever
take that as a sneak dis or No?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
It only hits because it it's something I did, right, Yeah,
And so it doesn't based on that, it doesn't necessarily
mean he's throwing shots at Brady. It is just something
that Brady did if the shoe fit, and he may
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have learned from watching that experience or maybe his own.
We're projecting that thought in reality, but there is something
to it because we immediately think of Tom Brady. So
you know, I don't think it was intentional. I think
the Mahomes family, especially Patrick, looks at Tom as one
of the goats and they take the higher route. It
just happens to be that's something that we think Tom
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Brady did.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
All right, Well, hey, happy fourth, enjoy your grilling, your fireworks,
don't drink and play with fireworkers at the same time.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Well, there was another distance sports that I think we're
gonna give you right, We're gonna get to this next.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Christian McCaffrey and Olivio Coppo. We'll get to that next
right here. Fox Sports Radio CNR in for DP.
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Speaker 11 (35:19):
What About Shit Dan Patrick's Show, Fox Sports Radio iHeartRadio App.
Welcome in. He's Dan Byro. I'm Doug gottlieb Man. I
hope you had a great fourth July. I know I
did up here in Green Bay. Of course, Dan in
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Los Angeles a little cookout on actually had somebody give
me a grill, which I like, of all the gifts
you can give a man to give somebody a new grill.
That was pretty awesome and made some sliders. Sliding into
the Weekend is brought to you by our partners at King's.
Hawaiian wants you to get together with friends and family
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and enjoy the weekend. Making every Sunday a slider Sunday
and Dan, as we put out on our our social page,
we do, we know we need to turn it into
slider Sunday. That's a great idea. We do family dinner
at at my house every Sunday. So I had no
idea that. Apparently frozen pizzas over like an open flame
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is a big thing in this part of Wisconsin.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
Are you were this? Yeah, yes, I've never really partaken
in that sort of thing, but oh you will, Yeah,
oh well you will. Jack's is you know a popular
brand that you think that's what we're doing.
Speaker 11 (36:42):
We're doing Jack's I by popular demand. Last weekend we
did I made I made tacos, made some Carne sat
for the boys as well. We did we did tacos.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
This week.
Speaker 11 (36:55):
We're gonna have to do slider Sundays, but we're also
going to do Jack's Pizza over and open Flame. I
had no idea that these are I was like, this
is seven days ago I learned of this. Anyway, hope
you had a great weekend. I this is the beginning
of the new sports calendar, the new sports year. This
is it's like you reset your clock. Now, you reset
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your your mental calendar. And look the NFL. I don't
think it's going to look that different this year. You know,
Aaron Rodgers switched teams last year. Granted he only played
four games. It'll still be an adjustment because he hasn't
really played with the Jets. But outside of that, not
a lot of massive change, right right. I mean, Saquon
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Barkley changes teams, but not a ton of massive change.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
The NBA.
Speaker 11 (37:46):
Next year, Lebron's same team, will see if Kevin Durant's
same team, Steph Curry kind of.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
You go through it.
Speaker 11 (37:53):
The stars there, Paul George is the biggest star to
switch teams to this point. Not ton different. I do
think college basketball will be back in at least much
more of our our focus because Cooper Flag is going
to play a duke. He's as highly touted a prospect
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as there has been coming into college basketball in a long,
long time. Right, the elimination of the G League ignite
as well as NIL is getting a better quality of
incoming player to college. We still have COVID year seniors,
so I don't know what it looks like. I do
think that duke being back kind of a top the
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rankings and people paying attention because they have, you know,
since Zion, Cooper Flag is the most known prospect to
come to college. But college football, to me is the
one that you want to talk about massive change. You
have conference realignment combined with with the new college football playoff,
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and yeah, I'll throw in the fact the video game
is back as well.
Speaker 9 (39:00):
Yes, but we have.
Speaker 11 (39:02):
Been waiting our entire lives for a college football playoff
our entire lives. And here's if you're I'm not talking
down to I'm just educating you if you're thirty or younger,
just so you understand, like we've had split national champions
in this sport in this century. Two teams that can
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rightfully call themselves national champions Like, how does that work?
Speaker 3 (39:29):
It?
Speaker 11 (39:29):
Somehow we allowed it to be for a long time.
Bowl games have been previously diminished. Now they're completely diminished.
Anything outside of the ones that decide national championship. There
is no more Rose Bowl because there is no more
Pac ten. If there's no Pac ten or Pac twelve,
there can be no more Rosebull. Will they play a
game in the Rose Bowl and call it.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
The Rose Bowl?
Speaker 11 (39:50):
Sure, it's not the Rose Bull And then we actually
have a College Wall Playoff? And oh yeah, by the way,
you know Cal and Stanford won't play U and Ucla.
That's weird. Arizona and Arizona State are now in the
Big Twelve. That's weird. Texas and Oklahoma tied the hip,
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but Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State that was the longest
un It's a continuous rivalry game played in all of
college football. It is, at least for the time being,
no more that streak is broken. So that's a lot
of change all in one year. We've had conference realignment,
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We've had incremental change of the BCS, and then the
College Football Playoff for the fourteen playoff. But to have
all of this at one stand it's a lot of change.
Speaker 9 (40:41):
Yeah, it's pretty enormous. You were talking about college basketball
in Cooper Flag and there's even going to be conference
realignment there, But it just does not hit like it
does with college football.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
And.
Speaker 9 (40:54):
This season I think is just going to be even
more strange, are more unique because I don't think the schools,
I don't think that the conferences really understand what some
of the unintended consequences are going to be with your
schedule and how you move on in the future. Does
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it pay to play non conference games against stronger opponents?
Will that be used against you if you have a loss.
Will it help you if you lose a game and
you're compared to another team that maybe didn't have as
strong of a non conference schedule. Those things are all
brought in. When you had the four team usually it
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didn't matter as much. Sometimes even head to head if
you were playing one of those top games didn't necessarily matter.
Now I think it's going to matter a lot more
because of the variety of teams that could be available
for some of those spots. But yeah, I think that
there's a lot in play that being one of them is.
I think teams have no idea how they're gonna want
to schedule, how they're going to play things out because
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they have no idea on how the bracket is actually
going to look when you're taking you know, other at
large teams, if you will.
Speaker 11 (42:11):
That's interesting. Well the other part too, it is, yes,
you don't know how to schedule, but because you don't
know how, it's I mean, the assumption is the better
the team's schedule, the more it's gonna help you. But
I'm with you. And then you have the the other
part to it, which is you've already had many of
these games scheduled for years in advance, and in some
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of the games that you had scheduled for years in
advance are now in your conference. Like the whole thing
is just sure, it incredibly incredibly strange.
Speaker 9 (42:40):
And there's there's situations too, which isn't foreign. But we've
seen rivals who are in the same conference, but they're
not on the conference schedule, so they're gonna play a
non conference game even though they are in the same conference.
That has happened now with these expanded you know, with
the expanded leagues, and I believe that there's an instance
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or two in the ACC and I can't remember the
schools exactly that are in play, but it'll be a
non conference game for two teams in the ACC. So
that's something that's even even weird and unique to watch.
You'll still have the College Football Playoff ranking schools. But
even to that point, Doug like, if you really want
to get like into the weeds on it, if are
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you going to set up seeds so they are rematches?
Are you going to have it try to avoid rematches? Well,
what about if it's a rematch for one team that
has a buy if they win and not for another.
How do you set up the bracket that way? What's fair?
What's not fair? There's just so many things that you
have no idea about that we may have a better
idea at the end of the season once it all
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plays out. But going into it's you're basically going in blind. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (43:50):
I think it's interesting. I think there's a bunch of
levels that are interesting to me. The schools that are
I think the school that is the most one to
pay attention to the most is Oklahoma. I mean it's
Oklahoma because Oklahoma was so completely and thoroughly dominant during
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their time during the last twenty years in the Big Twelve.
To go from that to what I think is a
really really tough slut tough sledding. It's just tough sledding,
you know. But I again, I could be wrong, because
they found a way to win games. One was the
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Big Eight to the Big Twelve through different coaches, right,
you know, ever since ever since they hired Bob Stoops
in ninety nine, right, it's been twenty five years of brilliance.
They've had the one off year here or there, right,
But to go from Bob Stoops to Lincoln Riley to
Brent Venables. You know, he had his first year, we
lost his recruiting class and lost his mojo, but you know,
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did get it back to some extent last year. I
think Oklahoma is the one because you know, Texas was
never really a Big twelve school and they joined the
Big twelve and they're part of it. I just again,
I personally think business was good for both of those schools.
I don't understand. I know why Texas kind of triggered
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this and started this. I know the thinking of Chris Delcante,
and I understand, but I think people most like seeing
when you win, and those two, those two programs. They're
just at such a financial advantage to everybody else in
the Big twelve. Even if you added schools in the
Big twelve, I just think it's a mistake. I think
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they're now just one of the fish in the biggest
pond in college football.
Speaker 9 (45:44):
It's funny because I'm not obviously as close to the
situation or that school as you are, just because of
where you went and the rivalry that is. I looked
at it as I wondered if Oklahoma actually had an
advantage in the SEC this year, because I feel like
the Texas conversation is so overpowering, especially for what we
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think Texas could be of making the playoff last year.
Yours is back arch manning is there that I wondered
if it would benefit Oklahoma going into the new league,
if it would benefit them at all for kind of
flying under the radar. I get what you say on
a on a you know, a grand scheme of things
and how it's going to work out, But even just
like sliding in this year, I wondered if maybe the
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pressure was off a little because when we're talking about
schools changing, I just feel like Texas is so much
of that conversation for the SEC.
Speaker 11 (46:38):
Yeah, but but I mean I want you to think
about think about this. Okay, you're you're Oklahoma, and they've
always played a pretty good non conference slate, you know, Temple, Tulane.
You know, obviously they do play Houston, which is now
a Big twelve school, but one that it's not like
they come in flying.
Speaker 9 (46:55):
Yeah, they played Ohio State years back, you know, games against.
Speaker 11 (46:59):
Play Notre Dame. Yeah, they challenge themselves. Their SEC schedule
starts with Tennessee at home and at Auburn. Then they
got Texas in Dallas, then South Carolina at home, then
they go to Ole miss somehow you throw Maine in
there where you're gonna get all the get you know,
that's the get right game.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (47:17):
Then you reinvigorate your rivalry with Missouri from from back
in the Big Eight in Big twelve days. Then you
got Alabama coming in. Then you end up at LSU.
Like your road trips are Ole, Miss, LSU and Auburn,
right my missing any Ole Miss, LSU, Auburn and Columbia
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and in Missouri. Like wow, that's that's a that's a wow.
Speaker 9 (47:47):
Sure, but wouldn't it be any better if it was Tuscaloosa,
you know, Athens, Knox No, no.
Speaker 11 (47:53):
No, no. I mean, like you know, like send us
to start Bull. I mean it's not like it's an
easy place to get in, but send me it Canucky
senmme to Vanderbilt s stark Fall first year, like, get
me going. But what my point is, you know, it's
they've they've made a nice little They've made a nice
little there's a cottage industry of pointing out that Lincoln
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Riley didn't want to be in the SEC. He's of course,
why would you want to be in the SEC when
you have a program that's they judge them. If you
don't win ten games in Oklahoma, you've had a bad year.
M h, you're not winning ten games with that, Skuy.
The years of ten of winning ten games are gone.
Like you'll have a one off here hopefully, you know,
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if you're Brent Bennables just sitting there, go like, man,
we got to get it all right, got to get
it all aligned. You know, get the non conference. They're
not going to lose any of those non conference games.
So I mean, look, you win eight, that's a hell
of a year. But just having that mental adjustment made
especially when you know people, it doesn't matter if the
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level of competition is way better. It's still just a
hard mental adjustment for people to go like, wait, seven
wins is a good year. Eight wins is a good year.
That's really hard.
Speaker 9 (49:07):
I think it's a really good point as well when
you compare it to the other changes that are being made. Now,
you think that Oklahoma is the most intriguing school in
all of this, And I don't fault you that. I
think you can make a great argument for it. I
actually think it's Oregon because I think Oregon can be
really good in the Big Ten. I'm just curious on
how it all plays out. But to your point, you
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just laid down a gauntlet in the SEC, which SEC
fans have been talking about for year after you know,
year after year after year after year. When I say
this to you for Oregon's schedule and not to make
its schedule radio. But I'm just telling you it's not
going to hit the way that Oklahoma's just did. Your
home against you or at UCLA to open up home
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against Michigan State, huge one against Ohio State, then at
Purdue home against Illinois, at Michigan home against Maryland at
Wisconsin home against Washington. Now you got some You got
Ohio State, Michigan, and Washington on your schedule right there.
It's the others that don't hit like the schools that
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you mentioned, you know, like And that's that's the difference
to it. Not saying that Oregon's gonna cake walk through
all those games, but they should be. They should be
winning those games. It is different because in the Big Ten,
when you've had Michigan and Ohio State, sorry, there were lulls,
there were there were lulls in the schedule, and there
are games that not that you would go through the motion,
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but you're just gonna end up winning because you're gonna
end up winning. And in the SEC I don't think
you can really say.
Speaker 11 (50:39):
That well when you had, when you had, I mean,
and budget isn't everything right, Texas has not been. It's
a the all time upset in college sports is that
Texas up until last year was an utter disappointment in
football into Big Twelve, despite the fact that their budget
was at least two x of most everybody in the league.
But Oklahoma was right there with them. They were We're
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not that far behind, and to spend that much money
and that many resources and have that much history. Like
you're at an advantage the games. You know, you're at
ninety percent of the time you have better players, better
resources than the opponent. That just doesn't occur now when
you're in the SEC Oregon. What's interesting, you know a
lot of people talk about the big the PAC twelve teams,
(51:20):
you know, going out going to the Midwest or maybe
even going out east if you play, if you play
Rutgers and the weather. I mean, the truth is, it's
kind of a misconception. First of all, it's not like
the weather's great in Oregon when you play in Washington
or you're playing the Polue spec when they're in the
in the PAC twelve. But maybe more importantly, the travels
(51:41):
are bear okay, But keep in mind, the PAC twelve
was not a bus league, right, it was a people
would fly down to go to the LA schools. Outside
of that, like you gotta get an airplane for everywhere
you're going. It's not a bust league. It's not the
you can't Illinois, Indiana, Indiana, Purdue like you can. Fans
are all live around the same place as they can
(52:01):
drive to those that's you're definitely losing that that's different.
But the weather wise, you're playing like one game in
November and the Midwest at most, Like let's let's not
overbear now. The style of football is different, and there is.
It is a tough, rugged league, but it's they have
not been as invested in NIL throughout the entirety of
(52:25):
the league like they are in the SEC. The caliber
athlete is a little bit better in the SEC. And
the big question is, you know and Oregon, remember when
Oregon was remade a couple of staffs ago, it would
they became the tough, rugged team up front in the
Pac twelve as well as having the speed at the
skill positions.
Speaker 5 (52:44):
Maybe not like Chip.
Speaker 11 (52:45):
Kelly era, but a little bit different. So I'm with you.
I think Oregon translates really well. The other part to
it is, you know you're bringing I mean, and this
is hard because Deshaun Foster is a high school teammate
of mine. He was a freshman while I was a
senior in basketball. Like we've known each other forever. I
love Deshaun. But UCLA, I mean, that's they're gonna be
the La Chargers of college football. Like their stadium is
(53:08):
going to be full every road game every home game
in the Pact twelve, only there'll be a road team
in their home stadium.
Speaker 9 (53:14):
Sure that's a hard one, Yes, Yes.
Speaker 11 (53:19):
So I'm I'm with you on on Oregon. I think
that transition could be a little bit better. So I
don't know, it's it's a fascinating, fascinating. I think the
thing that bums me out the most is if we
had one or the other, I would feel better about it.
But if I just wish now that we have the
College tall Playoff, we had all the old league's reset,
(53:43):
because then it would have been perfect. Yeah, right, if
you have if you had the five leagues you had previously,
then you have the five league champions and they play
their conference championship game, and you have five auto bids,
and then whatever the sixth best league is, they get
an auto, and then the next six we decide based
upon you know, the SEC probably gets two or three,
(54:06):
the Big ten probably gets the second one, the ACC
probably gets the second one, the PAC twelve probably gets
the seconde. The Big twelve probably gets the second one.
Like but they were about set.
Speaker 9 (54:16):
The other thing about it, Doug is and I agree
with you, I kind of wish it was the old way.
I don't think that we're done because the ACC is
just standing there and maybe maybe their grant of rights
is so ironclad that there's not going to be change.
But it's looking at the Big Ten schedule, people will
ask me, hey, does this school play that school? And
I don't remember, because there were two Big Ten schedules
(54:39):
sent out. There was the one with only US at UCLA.
Then when Oregon and Washington ended up, you know, joining
the league, then they had to develop a whole new
schedule in schools that would play UCLA aren't playing them anymore.
And so, like this stuff changes and likely at some
point will change again. I just don't know. It probably
won't be as drastically as it is entering this year,
(55:00):
but I do think that it is forthcoming, no question.
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
All yeah, Well, in a second, we're going to talk
to you the man of the hour, the guy that
we talked about every fourth of July, Joey Chestnup.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But co mean, I one thought.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I looked this up and there's no real answer as
to why everyone passed on Aaron Judge back in the day,
because he's doing just remarkable things in baseball now. The
only thing I could take out of it is he
was six 't seven, skinny and struck out a lot.
But even when he was drafted by the Yankees, you
know what the sentiment was. The sentiment was Aaron Judge,
(00:59):
he probably won't have him played for the Yankees because
they have such a deep roster. His agent said, don't
get too comfortable with the pinstripes. You're probably not gonna
stay here. And that's exactly what was said to Aaron
Judge back in the day.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
All right, well, without further ado, let's not make the legend. Wait,
it's that Joey Chestnut time of the year everybody, So
with glory and renown, we have a surprise guest visit
from the Man, the mid the Legend. Let's welcome Fox
Sports Radio Nation. I'm building it up. Do you like
this build up? Joey Chestnut, welcome Bay.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Oh, get on with you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, man, congrats on everything. I want to talk about
what's going on this weekend and all the news. But
what's it like for you when you're Joey Chestnut and
you just open up social media or just Google news
and you see stories about yourself everywhere? Do you read them?
Do you care? Do you get excited about that?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I care?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
The holding's crazy and I uh, this whole it's been
a wild ride and I'm still loving competitive eating and
I don't know where it's gonna take me, but I'm
I'm all in.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Hey, Joey, does the Nathan's contest even matter? Now that
you're not in it, is it like just sort of
does it have any credit with no Joey Chestnut in it?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I mean, it's it's still an awesome contest fourth of July.
It's the way people celebrate.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
That.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
People celebrate for the July competitive eating and they love
a hot dog. So it definitely has the place in
my heart. But dude, they kind of banned me for
reasons that don't still don't make sense. I mean, they
can twist and turn it, but uh, they've changed the
terms of our agreement and they uh, and they banned
me leaguing conversations and uh, that's the way it went.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Do you think they're gonna feel the impact and your
value because you were sort of the hype You were
the hype man and reason most people tuned in. So
is there a part of you that wants them to
miss you? Was like, you don't want them to carry
on and do great without You're right? So what are
your feelings about that?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, it's it's like a weird breakup. As soon as
a girlfriend says they don't want to be with you anymore,
it's like, oh good luck, I'm not I'm not trying
to make them regret it. I'm moving on and I'm
I'm I'm having a great time. I'm gonna celebrate for
July and I'm gonna still be eating hot dogs.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
You know, it's, uh, the analogy of the breakup's good
because when you break up, you're like, yeah, I wish
you well, but not too well.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And and what's what's interesting, It's like I'm stealing it
for Dan Patrick. I'm sure he wants us to do well,
but not that great, not that.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Right, Joey, would you say have all your highlights back
in the day in the world of competitive eating.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
We were talking about this just the other.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Day mid contest when some guy jumped on stage and
you like, stiffed arm. You stiff armed him mid hot dog.
Do you feel like that's your best? Is that your
coolest moment?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
That was that was one of the wildest moments. It
didn't make sense. I had a broken leg at the time,
and uh it was. It was crazy. Yeah, I remember
thinking to do what's happening and once once that timer starts,
that doesn't stop. So I had to get back to
eating and pull out the way.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You know what I love about that You're in your zone, right, Like,
you're so in your zone and it was just a
natural reaction because most people don't know how they would
react in the moment, and your natural reaction was that
of an action star. So I give you a lot
of credit for that, Joey Chestnut the badass, because I
don't know what I would have been in that moment.
I really don't ask them to ly who knows.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I'm sure you would have done it because I, like,
I've been training for the event for almost two months
and I wasn't gonna let anybody get in between me
and the dogs.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Now, now let's break this down. Because we heard that
you weren't doing the Nathan's Competition, right, we heard this,
But then a few weeks before, maybe even about a
month before, we heard that Kobe Yashi was retiring to
focus on his health. Then out of nowhere we read,
you guys are doing win this big Netflix special? Was
(05:02):
that Labor Day? Weekend Labor day? You're doing his Netflix deal.
So a part of me, and I'm just saying, how
I felt in that moment, felt like, what did he
have this up his sleeve the whole time? How did
that work? Give us the scoop?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah, we've been working on Me and Kobe actually been
talking for over a year and trying trying to figure
out a way to do it. And he he had
a falling out with Major League Eating and Nathan's years ago,
and I was I was hopeful there was a way
we could all I could do this event and and
uh and I was excited. It's uh, it's uh, dude,
(05:38):
at the big deals. This like my biggest rivalry, my
biggest rival ever.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Does he have a shot? Like I know, he's your
greatest competition, He's one of the biggest names out there,
but in reality, does he have a chance to beat you?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Oh my god, I don't want to. There's one person
crazy enough to do it, to push themselves to that
crazy limit, it's him. And like you, he was putting
out with this information like he was going to retire,
and that came out right because he was also it
took him a while to sign the contract, and then
then he told his manager and told my manager that
(06:14):
he's all in and he's trying to go for records,
and uh, I believe that way more than believing that
he was ever close to retiring.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Joey, this is you know, your own personal, private sort
of deal. But I'm imagining your Netflix deal to do
this was big. Does it matter how many people watch?
Or did they just work out one sort of contract
with you?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You know, I'm not usually I don't don't talk about contract,
but it is, uh yeah, it's a it's a I
think there's a prize involved, which is will be the
biggest prize in competitive eating. Cool okay, and uh yeah,
this is the biggest showdown ever and it's uh and
(06:59):
and Netflix is not messing around. They They're They're making
this biggest hot dog eating content ever.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Only time. I mean, Netflix got the cash.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
So I can only imagine Joey Chestnut hanging with Camino
on Richie on Fox Sports Radio. Now, you said, Kobyashi,
and you both have beef no pun attended with competitive
eating with the major league eating. That would be like
the NFL saying yo, mahomes Josh Allen like, yeah, we
don't need you a big mistake.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Is there someone still in that.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
World that you that that maybe you mentored or someone like,
is there an up and comer? Because I don't know
anyone besides you, Kobyashi. I remember back in the day
we interviewed a guy crazy Legs Kanti is there like
some new guy that anyone should have been look out for.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
You know, there's some awesome eaters. There's the guy out
of Australia. He's very very good. This guy any of
the sweetheart good dude. I would hate to see that
the mustard belt leave America, but there's a very good
chance he'll be going. It'll be going to Australia. There's
a guy out of Boston, very very good dude. Jeff
(08:00):
and Jeff Esper. Nice guy, he's capable of a mid
fifties and and it's one of the things I'm talking
to these guys and now that I'm not there, they
feel like it's time for them to they can hopefully
get their personal best and uh and I understand that
they can feel like they can spread their wings because
they have a chance.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
We now remember reading that Esper said if he won,
he'd put an asterisk next to the victory because he
wasn't competing against the best. That had to make you
feel good.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
He's a great dude. He's a class act and he man.
We messaged each other and I'm i a spot for him.
He's a nice guy.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Hey, Joey second in line as far as like, we
get excited about the hot dog contests and everything, So
what's second after that? As far as competition in major
league eating? What's the next big thing that you might
blow up? After hot dogs?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Oh? After hot dogs? They just had a blooney eating
contest in May and it was pretty awesome. They actually
almost got it on ESPN, which might have.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
The all time record. Didn't you go up just eating
blooney sandwiches? Rich dude?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I think I hold the record in nineteen eighty nine
third grade. Yeah, record, that's all his mom made for. Yeah, Joey,
let me ask you this, if you are to recommend
the right way to eat a hot dog, like, if
you're not you know, dipping them in water and you know,
shoving them down your throat, you know, winning records and
money and breaking all these you know, breaking these records.
Are you grilling it on the barbecue? Do you like
(09:38):
a boiled hot dog? Or is that grossy? Like if
you would actually try to enjoy a dog, how does
Joey chest not eat it?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And what do you put on it? Mustard?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Ketchup relish some of those red New York City onions. Like,
what's a Joey chest not perfect dog?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah, I'm a boiled hot dog. Grinds my gears I love.
I love a flatop griddle, I'll do. I like charcoal
a grill, although the way we can taste the charcoal
a little bit, uh topping raw onions, mustard, I'll get.
I love going southern California, getting getting the street dogs
wrapped in bacon with with onions and peppers and even
(10:13):
mayonnaise on there. I uh yes, I love to eat.
But yeah, you're absolutely right for pleasure. I'm not dipping
those things in water.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Did you cut slits in them when you're you're grilling them?
Do you cut slits at the end or like, you know,
do you have a special technique we should try out
this holiday weekend.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
No cutting slits in it, that's that's our shelter. No,
you want flowers on.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
There too, Joey Chestnut, Hey, Joey, tell us about what's
going on at Fort Bliss.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Oh yeah, yeah. So after that, I got uh told
I couldn't compete on at Coney Island. Fort Bliss reached out.
I've been doing some uh some work with the military
in the past and they reached out and invited me
to therefore their life celebrations. So I'm going down to
El Paso, gonna be eating hot dogs against a group
of soldiers, all beef hot dogs, and uh, it's gonna
(11:09):
be great. I'm gonna be pushing hard and dude, on
top of that, my partner Impossible. They're gonna be donating
one thousand dollars to Operation Homeland for every every hot
dog I eat, and there it's gonna be yeah, yeah,
there be donate. Oh my god, I'm gonna put down
at least fifty hot dogs in those five minutes.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Dude, that's awesome, awesome, Yeah, that's cool to have something
to check out this weekend.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Joey, let me let me ask you one thing about
the impossible Nathan's relationship or lack thereof. Tell us how
it actually did go down. Was it did your company
did Impossible Foods? They say, hey, listen, we're we're open
to this, We're okay within competing, and Nathan's was the
one that shut it down.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Like what was the detail that sort of blew this?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah, well, my relationship is impossibly.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
It goes back a little while because I I've told
people for years and years that after I after I
eat tons of hot dogs or tons of blowny uh,
I am on a super clean diet and and I
do meatless mondays and so so it was it was
kind of a natural thing. I can't eat eat pounds
and pounds of meat every day and and I uh
(12:18):
and I enjoy impossible product and impossible it's it's different
enough from from hot dogs, and that it wasn't it
was never part of it was never excluded any of
my agreements with with Methans, Nathan's and Majally eating and well,
as soon as they found out that I was working
with them, they they said, no, no, you have to
(12:39):
you have to cancel that agreement. They were very controlling
and then uh then they started leaking things to the
press media saying I was vegan, and it was it was,
it was.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
It was weird the way they handle it. And uh
I most people can say, well, you know, a plant
based hot dog is not the same as I'll be
a hot dog, and they shouldn't. They shouldn't feel so threatened.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I have two more questions for you, Joey. Each bummer man,
It is a bummer man, But you know what I'm
glad we still get to see you this weekend. Since
you're talking about hot dogs and vegan hot dogs and
bolooney and all these crazy things you eat. Have you
ever had I'm from Jersey. Have you ever had Tailor Ham?
Are you a fan of Tailor Ham? Some coil it?
Pork roll?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Oh my god? Yea well pork roll? Yeah, I hold
the record for in southern I no.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No, no, let's be clear. I'm from Jersey. I hold
the record in pork roll sandwiches. But I'm just kidding.
But do you like it?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I love it? You know, it grills up nice and
and it's that perfect degree of fat and oily and salty.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Oh yeah, no, it's so great. I'm so guy.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
What other records? A lot of people here wondering what
other records do you hold?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Oh dude, I have some awesome ones. So that guy
I said that blooney one for Elmhill baloney. That was
fourteen pounds of blowny and eight minutes, thirteen pounds the
rib meat and twelve minutes. And one of my favorite
is harbled eggs. One hundred and forty one horrible days
in eight minutes.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
That's that's amazing, dude. And you know what, that's absurd?
Did you hear that? Dude? I can't even imagine, because
you know what, we all did some damage this past
weekend and we're probably going to do that again this
holiday we can coming up. So my last question for
Joey Chestnut here on the Cavino and Rich Show and
for DP is how do you balance that out? Like,
you know, we've met you a few times. You're in
(14:31):
great shape, but what's your gym routine like to balance
out all this damage you do?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Oh? The big the biggest thing is cutting calories before
and after as soon as soon as I can start
eating a super high fiber diet in greens, no sugar,
and it's it sucks. I even have to bringing beer
afterward because as soon as I start having carved that's
when the weight really stays on me. But if I
clean afterwards, I can I can easily back to my
(14:59):
normal wait in about four days. And uh, yeah, it
takes it takes a little bit of a discipline to
make sure that, uh that wait doesn't stay on me.
And uh because if I if I start gaining weight
every weekend, then I start losing contests and and uh,
it's losing sucks.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Hey, Joey, I got to ask because we we bumped
into uh all, you know, back at serious XM days.
I remember one year I hosted a Hooters pageant and
you and Covino were two of the judges.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
You, I, do you feel like?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I feel like everywhere I go people love to talk
to Joey Chessna. Do you love your level fame where
you're not like some A list guy. Everyone's just sort
of like, but they know who you are, Like, Hey,
Joey Chesna, do you sort of love that pocket?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Oh, it's it's a great pocket. Because there are critics
of competitive eating, and very few of those critics ever
recognized me. And it's not like like we're a regular athlete.
Like Charles Barkley. There's people who hate him and then
they yell at him and you have to get in
a fight. Usually the people who hate competitiviating don't don't
don't ever let they don't recognize me, and I don't
have to get the fights about it. Uh, it's only
(16:02):
it's great dudes. And uh and it's eagle a party
and we get to talk about food.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Well, it's always a pleasure running into you and having
you on the show. And I want to say this.
You know, we often talk about goats, Tom Brady's, Michael Jordan's,
but there's some people that are left out of the conversation.
You know, who brings up Michael Phelps. Not too many people, right,
you want to talk about Gretzky moving forward, Guys, especially
around this time of year, we always got to remember
(16:30):
there's only one Joey chest nutt and he is the goat,
and he's on our show. And we thank you very
much man, look forward to show this weekend.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
No, thank you man so again, catch Man fort Bliss
el Paso. And again we're really happy Danny G got
him on the line this morning. As you know, Uh,
he's a regular in the fifth hour of Ben Mallor
and we were glad to spend a few minutes with
Joey chestnut n LBP show.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Because of that. I don't know if you know the
deal Danny G made. You now have to compete against
Ben Mallard in a hoto getting hot test.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yes, I don't know who's got that one. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Oh, Ben, he's on these fasts for like sometimes half
a week, it seems like, really yeah, I think Covino
could take him out unless Ben is just coming off
his last fast yo.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Ben is a big boy man. And again we borrow
the mean he's moneyball mallard. Do you have a nickname
like that? You mean moneyball math. People call him moneyball
Mat and we borrow disappearance from Moneyball Mallard. And again
thanks again to Danny g and Ben for letting us
have Joey Chestnut here for this moment, because again every
day there's like breaking news on Joey Chestnut and we
(17:39):
share that with you today. So something to look forward
to in the world of competitive eating and all the
controversy surrounding it, you know what, not talking out of
both sides of my mouth.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I take it back, because he's eating beef dogs on
the fourth of July. They're not vegan dogs. He is
the goat, and for you know, I do make fun
of El Passo. Sorry I'll passo. But from what Joey
chestnutt described, it does seems like it does seem like Nathan's.
It's clear they're the ones that sort of we're reluctant
to let this happen. Like if impossible Foods and Joey
(18:12):
Chessnut were like, hey, listen, I'll still do it.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I want to do it.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
And Nathan's took like a weird hard stand like we're
not doing it, Like aren't they like aren't they screwing
themselves over?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
In a bit obviously, because I don't think it's much
of a he wants to not put it down because
it meant so much to him and it built his career,
but it's not much of a competition without Joey Chestnut man,
no doubt, no doubt. Will listen.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
We have plenty to get to here on Covino and
Rich Listen, there's a hilarious guest that attended a sports
wedding over the weekend, and I want to talk about
unlikely friendships in the world of sports and entertainment.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Plus some big trades already going down, not trades, more
free agent signings in the NBA. So a little NBA,
little football, a little of everything. Fourth of July week
Kevino Rich in for the Great Dan Patrick from the
Mercedes Benz Studio.
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Speaker 2 (19:44):
You know what I want tonight?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I want everyone to give extra oohs and ohs at
the fireworks show and then do what everyone else does
when it's over.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
You say, that's it. Less, it was better? Was that
the finale was that it? It's all.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
That's it.
Speaker 9 (20:00):
Don't forget to film it with your iPhone.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, and film it with your iPhone. And that being said,
stick around and never watch it later next hour when
fifty hits Every Thursday on the Covino on Rich Show,
we throw it back old School and fifty Hits, and
we're gonna be talking about things that were cool that
should have never went out of style. I don't know
how cool it was, but I don't hear people go ooh.
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I don't hear that anymore when it comes to the fireworks.
Either way, we are Coveno and Rich. Day four of
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world of sports and entertainment, all right, so stick around
and enjoy something.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Danny G said, I want to reiterate because it's the
number one answer on the board dumbest things people record
on their smartphones. Number one answer is firework shows.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Just enjoy the moment, put your armor on, your kid,
have a drink in the other hand, relaxed.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
If you take out your iPhone to record.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Fireworks, do you realize how ridiculous and stupid you look?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
No one ever looks back at this crap. We know
that it's just taking up space and storage, But most
of the intention is to say, later on, look at
me and see where I am and see what I did.
You're not sharing, You're bragging on social media, and yeah,
your firework display is a weird flex and a weird brag.
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But people are filming concerts and things like that, and
moments at a ballgame, and it really is less of
a shame. Sometimes it's a share, I get it, But
most of the time it's just hey, look where I'm at.
What are you doing today? I'm just having that thought
rich in between our segments here, our discussions are hanging
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on Fox Sports Radio. I'm on social media just seeing
if any news is broke, and I'm like, look at
all these brokeass people on vacation while am I working
on Fourth of July? And all these brokeasts do nothings
that I know are somewhere sweet on vacation in a
foreign land. You know how I know that because they're
all bragging on social media. Yeah, you know, look at
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it this way.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
If you break out your phone and you take five
seconds of like, oh, there's my family sitting on lawn
chairs and all the happy fourth, that's one thing.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
But to break out your phone to record the fireworks.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
The fireworks, the concert. Don't do it. Yeah, it's just
a waste. Just enjoy your fireworks tonight and have a
great one, a safe one, keep all your fingers intact,
and don't go dying on me. By the way, my
grandma died on the fourth of July. Way to bring
it up, Rich, it's true story. It's true. My teetha
passed away today. It's the anniversary. Thanks again, bro, thanks
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again for bringing up all my childhood trump geez a
chicken coop death and yeah, thanks Rich, really is a
morning show. Why don't you ruin my holiday.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Hot dog eating contest?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
No? No, no, just old age. Yeah. Rest in peace
to my teethda true story.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
By the way, speaking of hot dogs, we'll hear a
little bit from Joey Chestnut next hour.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
He was on our show a couple of days ago.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
But you got to imagine it's a weird morning for him, right,
Like he's used to this routine of Nathan's Fourth of
July Coney Island, and today he's waking up in El Paso,
Texas and he's probably thinking, like a time to move along.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
He's used to the damn Patrick show. He's like, what
are these guys yapping about? So he's used to chicken coops.
But we did say it's the fourth of July, and
you know that, helpe, you are enjoying your sleep, in
your day off, whatever you're doing, getting ready to We
have lots to get to. But what makes July significant
is not only the fourth of July, not only your
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little family get away, but football is just a month out.
It's crazy. How cool was that? It really is?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Like the excitement of a new football season gets me
every time.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Now Hard Knocks is back on TV. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes
is in the news. Now Mahomes is in the news.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
And I know you're a fan of calling it out
when I sneak this people and I don't even realize
I'm doing it.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I'm like, dude, that wasn't a sneak diss. I'm sorry.
Like it's just your condescending way. It's like, yo, those
rules may apply with your wiener friends or I don't know,
kids you grew up with, or people outside of the show.
Don't fly with me, don't fly with Spot. It's like,
because we pick up on it, we talk to you
so often, I don't know if you know this. Things
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like that, Like it's just the condescending tone in which
you're the greatest guy and you're the smartest guy and
you're the dude who did all the diligence, and then
you leave us out of the conversation. You'll include us
in something whack, but if it's awesome, it's me me, me,
me me, And it's just that sort of thing. It's like, wait,
hold on, Rich'll tell the weakest story, right, like remember
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you were there, and I'm like, yeah, I remember, And
then he'll tell the greatest story and leave me out
of it and be like, yeah, I was there, you
remember that, right, I was there issue and you know
I was also the one that told you X, Y,
and Z and now you're taking this story. So Rich
has always sneaked this and in ways like that. It's
just I don't even know if he realizes he doesn't,
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but I think he does. It's just the way he is.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I'm bringing you down. Well, curious what you think about this,
Patrick Mahomes, Danny sent us a headline and upon further digging, Danny,
not only mahomes mom, but Mahomes has made a lot
of comments and they have to do with not playing
late in his career. The headline you sent was Patrick
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mahomes mom says he definitely won't play until forty five
like Tom because he plans on prioritizing family.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
And is like, ooh, is.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
That like a not playing until forty five like Tom
because he plans on prioritizing family. If you emphasize the
word he, it's like because he plans on prioritizing family.
Depends on how you read it, right, because' like is
she saying that it's like Tom's.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
It's like a very mom way of of giving you
a backhanded sort of this like it's so evident, but
it's a mom way. It's like you know when mom
say certain things like well, well, I don't know about you,
but he does, and you're like, Mom, I know you're
talking about me. And then she'll say, well, if the
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shoe fits, but she's pretending like she's not saying it,
but she is saying it. That's really what mahomes mom
is doing here. She's pulling a mom sort of Jeni
trick of saying, well, I'm not saying that about Tom,
but if you want to interpret it that way, then
be my guest. It's a very mom backhanded way of
telling you how it is.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Well, Patrick, mahomes mom has a telling comment on when
he'll retire. I don't know if you want to read
some of the quotes I got him here. I know
you're you love doing your Mahomes He said something to
the effect of, oh, well, yes, Look, if I played
until Tom's age, my daughters would be nineteen twenty years old.
That would be missing plenty of youth sporting events and
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other commitments. I feel like it's taken away from family time.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
Hey, you I grew up my dad played sports and
he was always like I was at the twins, and
then he was with Richie's crappy mits, and I just
want to be there, you know, when my kids are
playing sports, and you know, time loves fast, and I
just want to be there more than my dad was there.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And uh, just that sort of thing. He also remembered
grew up where his dad probably prioritized pitching a lot.
I'm not saying his dad was there. I know his
dad one of his biggest fans of supporters, but he
knows what it's like to have his dad dedicate his
time to his craft. And maybe he's like, yeah, you
know what, I want to be there a little more
often than Patrick Pat Mahomes Senior.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Yeah, I mean, Mahomes is twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Brady played till forty five.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
So it's lofty to even think, like, yo, does Mahomes
have seventeen more years in him, which just seems so fake.
That number doesn't even seem real. Like to play until
Brady played, Mahomes would have to play seventeen more years.
That seems absurd when you think about how long Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well, Mahomes never the goat unless he surpasses Tom when
it comes to rings. So he's got a lot of
winning to do. And I think I think what he
says may be true if he's able to get much
closer when it comes to super Bowl victories. I don't know,
because I think that's what's gonna keep him around longer.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Do you think, though, that the gauge of goatness in
the NFL will be rings?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I know you're gonna say, well, he's been why would
that change?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
But all right, let's say Mahomes place till thirty five
and he walks away when he's still totally capable, but
he wins two more and Mahomes is five time super
Bowl winner, like just at thirty five is like, yeah,
you know what I'm saying, it's time, like you would
with ten years left on the table compared to Brady
forty five.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I mean, part of Brady's career and why he was
so successful is his longevity. The dude made health the priority.
He stuck it out. He won a few more, he
won one toward the end of his career. Like for
Mahomes to be the goat, he would have to do
something similar, really start winning now and get some some
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more Super Bowls under his belt. And I think that
any great competitor and that he is, is gonna want
to shoot their shot being the best. So he says
that now, but we'll see what happens in the future.
Look think of how many players retire and come back.
How many fighters retire and come back because they have
that itch, because they left some on the table, they
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had more gas left. So I don't know that would
be he says that now, I don't know if he's
that willing to give it up. But on the flip side,
nothing wrong with prioritizing your family. But we're talking greatness here.
You know, greatness comes along few and far between. You
can leave quietness on the table. You can still be
a good dad and try to be great at the
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same time.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Is it a diss Do you look at that as
a diss or? Like yo, this has nothing to do
with Tom Brady. When mahomes or his mom says, oh well, well,
Patrick says he's gonna prioritize family. He's not gonna play
till forty five. Is that as you as your mom
would say, if the shoe fits.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Is that saying, oh well, look at Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
He didn't prioritize family, and look at him now, he's
forty six, forty seven, divorced, he's getting roasted, and his
ex wife hates and his kids, and.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Like if we see we work in media and you're
always looking for that salacious ooh, that juicy story, like
oh man, And I don't want to overdissect, but I
do feel like there is something there.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I do feel this as much as just a template.
Like like if I saw someone, you know, you see
someone put their hands on a hot stove, they burn it,
You're not gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
He might say.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Listen, with all due respect, you know, Tom's my hero legend,
but he might say, I see what happens when you
play till forty five and your kids grow up before
your very eyes and you're not there all the time.
I don't, with all due respect, I'm not gonna take
that path. Is that a sneak disc or just a realization?
Speaker 10 (31:42):
And you know, I love football, but I just want
to prioritize my family and not do what Tom Brady did.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I kind of think there's something going on there. That
guy really blew it up with what the mom said,
like you don't want to it's and you know what,
it's not a diss if you take from the standpoint
of maybe Patrick Mahomes and his mom was insinuating.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Because I saw what could happen when you don't prioritize
your family.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
In his family and with Brady, you know, it is
true that Brady not that he doesn't love his family,
but he started to prioritize football.
Speaker 9 (32:23):
He hates his family.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
No, I'm not saying that, but his family. It didn't
work out right because he prioritized football towards the end,
and I'm sure there's a lot of other things, and
he maybe even prioritized football because there was trouble in Paradise.
It was probably a combination of both. But you see
what happens when work. Look, dude, hey maybe if I
didn't take that TV job in New York, I could
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have kept my family together. But it puts a guy
in a tough situation when you have to work and
you have to put bread on the table. You have
to be a provider, but you also have to be
a family guy. You know, those are tough choices to make.
Patrick Mahomes a luxury that most people and men especially
don't have. He does have the luxury to say, well,
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I don't have to do it if I don't want to,
because I'm fine, I'm successful, and I could call it
a day. I have nothing to prove, and I could
be there for my family. But will he feel like
he still has something to prove? That's really the question here.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
We live in a different generation now where dad's more
than anything.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
You know, moms have always been involved, right.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
But we live in a different world now where I
saw a stat that said the percentage of dads that
change diapers and do kids baby things is so astronomically
different than our parents' generation. Like my mom would always
say stuff like, you.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Know your father never changed one diaper.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Let's be fair, I changed too. So is it a
sneak diss or not?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Can you know, do you take it as a sneak
diss because you know you might think I'm sneak dissing
you right now?
Speaker 5 (33:56):
When you hear people mock people to.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Get married in Vegas like it'll work, and you got
married in Vegas and you're divorced, is do you ever
take that as a sneak dis or No?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
It only hits because it it's something I did, right, Yeah,
And so it doesn't based on that, it doesn't necessarily
mean he's throwing shots at Brady. It is just something
that Brady did if the shoe fit, and he may
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have learned from watching that experience or maybe his own.
We're projecting that thought in reality, but there is something
to it because we immediately think of Tom Brady. So
you know, I don't think it was intentional. I think
the Mahomes family, especially Patrick, looks at Tom as one
of the goats and they take the higher route. It
just happens to be that's something that we think Tom
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Brady did.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
All right, Well, hey, happy fourth, enjoy your grilling, your fireworks,
don't drink and play with fireworkers at the same time.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Well, there was another distance sports that I think we're
gonna give you right, We're gonna get to this next.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Christian McCaffrey and Olivio Coppo. We'll get to that next
right here. Fox Sports Radio CNR in for DP.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 11 (35:19):
What About Shit Dan Patrick's Show, Fox Sports Radio iHeartRadio App.
Welcome in. He's Dan Byro. I'm Doug gottlieb Man. I
hope you had a great fourth July. I know I
did up here in Green Bay. Of course, Dan in
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Los Angeles a little cookout on actually had somebody give
me a grill, which I like, of all the gifts
you can give a man to give somebody a new grill.
That was pretty awesome and made some sliders. Sliding into
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and enjoy the weekend. Making every Sunday a slider Sunday
and Dan, as we put out on our our social page,
we do, we know we need to turn it into
slider Sunday. That's a great idea. We do family dinner
at at my house every Sunday. So I had no
idea that. Apparently frozen pizzas over like an open flame
(36:27):
is a big thing in this part of Wisconsin.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
Are you were this? Yeah, yes, I've never really partaken
in that sort of thing, but oh you will, Yeah,
oh well you will. Jack's is you know a popular
brand that you think that's what we're doing.
Speaker 11 (36:42):
We're doing Jack's I by popular demand. Last weekend we
did I made I made tacos, made some Carne sat
for the boys as well. We did we did tacos.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
This week.
Speaker 11 (36:55):
We're gonna have to do slider Sundays, but we're also
going to do Jack's Pizza over and open Flame. I
had no idea that these are I was like, this
is seven days ago I learned of this. Anyway, hope
you had a great weekend. I this is the beginning
of the new sports calendar, the new sports year. This
is it's like you reset your clock. Now, you reset
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your your mental calendar. And look the NFL. I don't
think it's going to look that different this year. You know,
Aaron Rodgers switched teams last year. Granted he only played
four games. It'll still be an adjustment because he hasn't
really played with the Jets. But outside of that, not
a lot of massive change, right right. I mean, Saquon
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Barkley changes teams, but not a ton of massive change.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
The NBA.
Speaker 11 (37:46):
Next year, Lebron's same team, will see if Kevin Durant's
same team, Steph Curry kind of.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
You go through it.
Speaker 11 (37:53):
The stars there, Paul George is the biggest star to
switch teams to this point. Not ton different. I do
think college basketball will be back in at least much
more of our our focus because Cooper Flag is going
to play a duke. He's as highly touted a prospect
(38:13):
as there has been coming into college basketball in a long,
long time. Right, the elimination of the G League ignite
as well as NIL is getting a better quality of
incoming player to college. We still have COVID year seniors,
so I don't know what it looks like. I do
think that duke being back kind of a top the
(38:35):
rankings and people paying attention because they have, you know,
since Zion, Cooper Flag is the most known prospect to
come to college. But college football, to me is the
one that you want to talk about massive change. You
have conference realignment combined with with the new college football playoff,
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and yeah, I'll throw in the fact the video game
is back as well.
Speaker 9 (39:00):
Yes, but we have.
Speaker 11 (39:02):
Been waiting our entire lives for a college football playoff
our entire lives. And here's if you're I'm not talking
down to I'm just educating you if you're thirty or younger,
just so you understand, like we've had split national champions
in this sport in this century. Two teams that can
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rightfully call themselves national champions Like, how does that work?
Speaker 3 (39:29):
It?
Speaker 11 (39:29):
Somehow we allowed it to be for a long time.
Bowl games have been previously diminished. Now they're completely diminished.
Anything outside of the ones that decide national championship. There
is no more Rose Bowl because there is no more
Pac ten. If there's no Pac ten or Pac twelve,
there can be no more Rosebull. Will they play a
game in the Rose Bowl and call it.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
The Rose Bowl?
Speaker 11 (39:50):
Sure, it's not the Rose Bull And then we actually
have a College Wall Playoff? And oh yeah, by the way,
you know Cal and Stanford won't play U and Ucla.
That's weird. Arizona and Arizona State are now in the
Big Twelve. That's weird. Texas and Oklahoma tied the hip,
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but Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State that was the longest
un It's a continuous rivalry game played in all of
college football. It is, at least for the time being,
no more that streak is broken. So that's a lot
of change all in one year. We've had conference realignment,
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We've had incremental change of the BCS, and then the
College Football Playoff for the fourteen playoff. But to have
all of this at one stand it's a lot of change.
Speaker 9 (40:41):
Yeah, it's pretty enormous. You were talking about college basketball
in Cooper Flag and there's even going to be conference
realignment there, But it just does not hit like it
does with college football.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
And.
Speaker 9 (40:54):
This season I think is just going to be even
more strange, are more unique because I don't think the schools,
I don't think that the conferences really understand what some
of the unintended consequences are going to be with your
schedule and how you move on in the future. Does
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it pay to play non conference games against stronger opponents?
Will that be used against you if you have a loss.
Will it help you if you lose a game and
you're compared to another team that maybe didn't have as
strong of a non conference schedule. Those things are all
brought in. When you had the four team usually it
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didn't matter as much. Sometimes even head to head if
you were playing one of those top games didn't necessarily matter.
Now I think it's going to matter a lot more
because of the variety of teams that could be available
for some of those spots. But yeah, I think that
there's a lot in play that being one of them is.
I think teams have no idea how they're gonna want
to schedule, how they're going to play things out because
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they have no idea on how the bracket is actually
going to look when you're taking you know, other at
large teams, if you will.
Speaker 11 (42:11):
That's interesting. Well the other part too, it is, yes,
you don't know how to schedule, but because you don't
know how, it's I mean, the assumption is the better
the team's schedule, the more it's gonna help you. But
I'm with you. And then you have the the other
part to it, which is you've already had many of
these games scheduled for years in advance, and in some
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of the games that you had scheduled for years in
advance are now in your conference. Like the whole thing
is just sure, it incredibly incredibly strange.
Speaker 9 (42:40):
And there's there's situations too, which isn't foreign. But we've
seen rivals who are in the same conference, but they're
not on the conference schedule, so they're gonna play a
non conference game even though they are in the same conference.
That has happened now with these expanded you know, with
the expanded leagues, and I believe that there's an instance
(43:01):
or two in the ACC and I can't remember the
schools exactly that are in play, but it'll be a
non conference game for two teams in the ACC. So
that's something that's even even weird and unique to watch.
You'll still have the College Football Playoff ranking schools. But
even to that point, Doug like, if you really want
to get like into the weeds on it, if are
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you going to set up seeds so they are rematches?
Are you going to have it try to avoid rematches? Well,
what about if it's a rematch for one team that
has a buy if they win and not for another.
How do you set up the bracket that way? What's fair?
What's not fair? There's just so many things that you
have no idea about that we may have a better
idea at the end of the season once it all
(43:45):
plays out. But going into it's you're basically going in blind. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (43:50):
I think it's interesting. I think there's a bunch of
levels that are interesting to me. The schools that are
I think the school that is the most one to
pay attention to the most is Oklahoma. I mean it's
Oklahoma because Oklahoma was so completely and thoroughly dominant during
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their time during the last twenty years in the Big Twelve.
To go from that to what I think is a
really really tough slut tough sledding. It's just tough sledding,
you know. But I again, I could be wrong, because
they found a way to win games. One was the
(44:34):
Big Eight to the Big Twelve through different coaches, right,
you know, ever since ever since they hired Bob Stoops
in ninety nine, right, it's been twenty five years of brilliance.
They've had the one off year here or there, right,
But to go from Bob Stoops to Lincoln Riley to
Brent Venables. You know, he had his first year, we
lost his recruiting class and lost his mojo, but you know,
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did get it back to some extent last year. I
think Oklahoma is the one because you know, Texas was
never really a Big twelve school and they joined the
Big twelve and they're part of it. I just again,
I personally think business was good for both of those schools.
I don't understand. I know why Texas kind of triggered
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this and started this. I know the thinking of Chris Delcante,
and I understand, but I think people most like seeing
when you win, and those two, those two programs. They're
just at such a financial advantage to everybody else in
the Big twelve. Even if you added schools in the
Big twelve, I just think it's a mistake. I think
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they're now just one of the fish in the biggest
pond in college football.
Speaker 9 (45:44):
It's funny because I'm not obviously as close to the
situation or that school as you are, just because of
where you went and the rivalry that is. I looked
at it as I wondered if Oklahoma actually had an
advantage in the SEC this year, because I feel like
the Texas conversation is so overpowering, especially for what we
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think Texas could be of making the playoff last year.
Yours is back arch manning is there that I wondered
if it would benefit Oklahoma going into the new league,
if it would benefit them at all for kind of
flying under the radar. I get what you say on
a on a you know, a grand scheme of things
and how it's going to work out, But even just
like sliding in this year, I wondered if maybe the
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pressure was off a little because when we're talking about
schools changing, I just feel like Texas is so much
of that conversation for the SEC.
Speaker 11 (46:38):
Yeah, but but I mean I want you to think
about think about this. Okay, you're you're Oklahoma, and they've
always played a pretty good non conference slate, you know, Temple, Tulane.
You know, obviously they do play Houston, which is now
a Big twelve school, but one that it's not like
they come in flying.
Speaker 9 (46:55):
Yeah, they played Ohio State years back, you know, games against.
Speaker 11 (46:59):
Play Notre Dame. Yeah, they challenge themselves. Their SEC schedule
starts with Tennessee at home and at Auburn. Then they
got Texas in Dallas, then South Carolina at home, then
they go to Ole miss somehow you throw Maine in
there where you're gonna get all the get you know,
that's the get right game.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (47:17):
Then you reinvigorate your rivalry with Missouri from from back
in the Big Eight in Big twelve days. Then you
got Alabama coming in. Then you end up at LSU.
Like your road trips are Ole, Miss, LSU and Auburn,
right my missing any Ole Miss, LSU, Auburn and Columbia
(47:39):
and in Missouri. Like wow, that's that's a that's a wow.
Speaker 9 (47:47):
Sure, but wouldn't it be any better if it was Tuscaloosa,
you know, Athens, Knox No, no.
Speaker 11 (47:53):
No, no. I mean, like you know, like send us
to start Bull. I mean it's not like it's an
easy place to get in, but send me it Canucky
senmme to Vanderbilt s stark Fall first year, like, get
me going. But what my point is, you know, it's
they've they've made a nice little They've made a nice
little there's a cottage industry of pointing out that Lincoln
(48:13):
Riley didn't want to be in the SEC. He's of course,
why would you want to be in the SEC when
you have a program that's they judge them. If you
don't win ten games in Oklahoma, you've had a bad year.
M h, you're not winning ten games with that, Skuy.
The years of ten of winning ten games are gone.
Like you'll have a one off here hopefully, you know,
(48:35):
if you're Brent Bennables just sitting there, go like, man,
we got to get it all right, got to get
it all aligned. You know, get the non conference. They're
not going to lose any of those non conference games.
So I mean, look, you win eight, that's a hell
of a year. But just having that mental adjustment made
especially when you know people, it doesn't matter if the
(48:56):
level of competition is way better. It's still just a
hard mental adjustment for people to go like, wait, seven
wins is a good year. Eight wins is a good year.
That's really hard.
Speaker 9 (49:07):
I think it's a really good point as well when
you compare it to the other changes that are being made. Now,
you think that Oklahoma is the most intriguing school in
all of this, And I don't fault you that. I
think you can make a great argument for it. I
actually think it's Oregon because I think Oregon can be
really good in the Big Ten. I'm just curious on
how it all plays out. But to your point, you
(49:28):
just laid down a gauntlet in the SEC, which SEC
fans have been talking about for year after you know,
year after year after year after year. When I say
this to you for Oregon's schedule and not to make
its schedule radio. But I'm just telling you it's not
going to hit the way that Oklahoma's just did. Your
home against you or at UCLA to open up home
(49:50):
against Michigan State, huge one against Ohio State, then at
Purdue home against Illinois, at Michigan home against Maryland at
Wisconsin home against Washington. Now you got some You got
Ohio State, Michigan, and Washington on your schedule right there.
It's the others that don't hit like the schools that
(50:10):
you mentioned, you know, like And that's that's the difference
to it. Not saying that Oregon's gonna cake walk through
all those games, but they should be. They should be
winning those games. It is different because in the Big Ten,
when you've had Michigan and Ohio State, sorry, there were lulls,
there were there were lulls in the schedule, and there
are games that not that you would go through the motion,
(50:31):
but you're just gonna end up winning because you're gonna
end up winning. And in the SEC I don't think
you can really say.
Speaker 11 (50:39):
That well when you had, when you had, I mean,
and budget isn't everything right, Texas has not been. It's
a the all time upset in college sports is that
Texas up until last year was an utter disappointment in
football into Big Twelve, despite the fact that their budget
was at least two x of most everybody in the league.
But Oklahoma was right there with them. They were We're
(51:00):
not that far behind, and to spend that much money
and that many resources and have that much history. Like
you're at an advantage the games. You know, you're at
ninety percent of the time you have better players, better
resources than the opponent. That just doesn't occur now when
you're in the SEC Oregon. What's interesting, you know a
lot of people talk about the big the PAC twelve teams,
(51:20):
you know, going out going to the Midwest or maybe
even going out east if you play, if you play
Rutgers and the weather. I mean, the truth is, it's
kind of a misconception. First of all, it's not like
the weather's great in Oregon when you play in Washington
or you're playing the Polue spec when they're in the
in the PAC twelve. But maybe more importantly, the travels
(51:41):
are bear okay, But keep in mind, the PAC twelve
was not a bus league, right, it was a people
would fly down to go to the LA schools. Outside
of that, like you gotta get an airplane for everywhere
you're going. It's not a bust league. It's not the
you can't Illinois, Indiana, Indiana, Purdue like you can. Fans
are all live around the same place as they can
(52:01):
drive to those that's you're definitely losing that that's different.
But the weather wise, you're playing like one game in
November and the Midwest at most, Like let's let's not
overbear now. The style of football is different, and there is.
It is a tough, rugged league, but it's they have
not been as invested in NIL throughout the entirety of
(52:25):
the league like they are in the SEC. The caliber
athlete is a little bit better in the SEC. And
the big question is, you know and Oregon, remember when
Oregon was remade a couple of staffs ago, it would
they became the tough, rugged team up front in the
Pac twelve as well as having the speed at the
skill positions.
Speaker 5 (52:44):
Maybe not like Chip.
Speaker 11 (52:45):
Kelly era, but a little bit different. So I'm with you.
I think Oregon translates really well. The other part to
it is, you know you're bringing I mean, and this
is hard because Deshaun Foster is a high school teammate
of mine. He was a freshman while I was a
senior in basketball. Like we've known each other forever. I
love Deshaun. But UCLA, I mean, that's they're gonna be
the La Chargers of college football. Like their stadium is
(53:08):
going to be full every road game every home game
in the Pact twelve, only there'll be a road team
in their home stadium.
Speaker 9 (53:14):
Sure that's a hard one, Yes, Yes.
Speaker 11 (53:19):
So I'm I'm with you on on Oregon. I think
that transition could be a little bit better. So I
don't know, it's it's a fascinating, fascinating. I think the
thing that bums me out the most is if we
had one or the other, I would feel better about it.
But if I just wish now that we have the
College tall Playoff, we had all the old league's reset,
(53:43):
because then it would have been perfect. Yeah, right, if
you have if you had the five leagues you had previously,
then you have the five league champions and they play
their conference championship game, and you have five auto bids,
and then whatever the sixth best league is, they get
an auto, and then the next six we decide based
upon you know, the SEC probably gets two or three,
(54:06):
the Big ten probably gets the second one, the ACC
probably gets the second one, the PAC twelve probably gets
the seconde. The Big twelve probably gets the second one.
Like but they were about set.
Speaker 9 (54:16):
The other thing about it, Doug is and I agree
with you, I kind of wish it was the old way.
I don't think that we're done because the ACC is
just standing there and maybe maybe their grant of rights
is so ironclad that there's not going to be change.
But it's looking at the Big Ten schedule, people will
ask me, hey, does this school play that school? And
I don't remember, because there were two Big Ten schedules
(54:39):
sent out. There was the one with only US at UCLA.
Then when Oregon and Washington ended up, you know, joining
the league, then they had to develop a whole new
schedule in schools that would play UCLA aren't playing them anymore.
And so, like this stuff changes and likely at some
point will change again. I just don't know. It probably
won't be as drastically as it is entering this year,
(55:00):
but I do think that it is forthcoming, no question.
Speaker 11 (55:04):
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