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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
The college football season has a period. At the end
of the sentence, it's over. Back to back national titles
for the Big Ten. Wonder what SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey
is thinking, because it used to be the SEC was
the powerhouse. But once everybody got an opportunity to pay
players and transfer portal, all of a sudden nil that
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changed things dramatically. Notre Dame, that was a good year.
If I would have said back in that weekend when
they lost in Northern Illinois, they're going to play for
national championship, you probably would have thought not this year,
Ohio State beating Michigan. And if I would have said
after that game, hey, don't worry, they're going to win
the national title. After they lost to Michigan, they're going
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to win the national title. You have these moments. The
question is how do you react after those moments? After
those games. Notre Dame reacted and won and continue to win.
And Marcus Freeman IS's star in the sport Ryan Day,
the embattled Ryan Day. You lose to Michigan again, if
you don't have a twelve team playoff, you may not
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have Ryan Day winning a national championship this year. In fact,
you probably don't, but this is college football.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Who knows what it's going to be like next year
or in five years from now. But give credit to
Ohio State because they were the better team last night.
When it was thirty one seven, I kept thinking, all right,
Ohio State, just maybe another field goal so I can
go to bed, and then all of a sudden, here
comes Notre Day, and then here comes Notre Day, and
then all of a sudden, I'm going, what's the point spread?
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Eight and a half? Oh my goodness. Now I'm watching,
and I thought, if they don't get that third and
nine when they throw it to Jeremiah Smith, Now all
of a sudden, you got some people going, all right,
there's a lot of money the cover of the year.
When you think about it, you one to seven and
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you're going, I'm good. I all these Ohio State fans,
they laid the eight and a half. They're like, if
this is going to be a blowout, halftime high five
in each other, Yeah, hey, I got your beers. Marcus
Freeman comes out second half, Notre name head coach. He
looked like he had just been in the washing machine,
and was like what just happened? And then they got
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a couple of plays made it interesting, and Ohio State
did what they needed to do with a crucial you know,
I mean going forward third and nine. Here was Ryan
Day with that call on the completion to Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
We felt like we had an advantage with Jeremiah on
that shot, and you know, we've talked about it all week,
really hadn't thrown one all game, and it was like,
you know what game in a line, you know, let's go.
Let's just be aggressive. And I just thought to myself,
you know, you only even won national championship, you only
get one opportunity, you know, a year to do this.
Let's just lay it on the line and put it
out there and be aggressive. And that's what we did.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, third and long, and they were aggressive. Notre Dame
would have gotten the ball back, they'd have had about
two minutes to go. Maybe maybe we could have had
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for hour one is going to.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Be okay, Well, we've got one from here from Marvin.
We've got a bunch from toime. All has checked in.
Where would you like to start?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I'm going to go Marvin because it's rare when Marvin
offers up something. Poll question wise.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
If you're an Ohio State fan, you'd rather lose to
Michigan but win a national title or beat Michigan and
lose in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I think this is crazy that there are fans it's
so important to beat Michigan. That has been your identity.
And yeah, we won a national title, but you need
to beat Michigan. If you said to Ohio State fans,
you're gonna lose again to Michigan next year, but you're
going to play for the national championship. You have to
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play for a national championship.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
You would think you would, you would think.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
But you know, fan bases, the old school fan base,
how important it was, because it used to be if
you lost that game, you weren't playing for a national championship.
That was the importance of it. Now with the twelve
team playoff, fourteen team playoffs, sixteen team playoff, Okay, you
lose bragging rights there, but man, that national title that'll
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cure everything. That's the great elixir, a national title. Yes, Paul,
I have an idea.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
I would present it to you specifically because you know
Ohio State and history. Today is the day to start
de emphasizing the Michigan game going forward. Step you are
the national title holders. You're on full scholarship. Now going forward,
you've got the big payroll. Start using the word Michigan
when you talk about them. Don't say the team up north.
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Start saying Michigan like you would say Ohio State, like
you'd say Purdue or Iowa Wisconsin. Treat them all the same.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
But why can't you have both? Why can't this still
mean so much? But the national title is more important
than that.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Because, like we've been saying, it's meaning a little too
much the past decade. Start de emphasizing it and making
another game.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Beat them.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
You're gonna beat them or not either way, but start
saying Michigan, Iowa, Purdue step.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
One, Yeah, won't happen.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Not the team up.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
North, not gonna happen. Just not not. Don't fight it,
I know, just saying, Hey, I'm not one of those
that would go, boy, I'd rather beat Michigan and then
win a national title. That's silly.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
I want to follow up on that. Okay, there's no
one who really believes that. That's more of a perception
of the national media about Ohio State fans.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Maybe maybe because I can't.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Imagine an Ohio State fan today going, you know what,
if I could have a do over this year, I
would wax Michigan and take it on the chin and
Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Yes, right, But like Michigan fans are somehow taking a
little bit of a victory lap too, being like, yeah,
but we beat the national chair, so I guess we
really are, like, which is absurd. That's I get, how
tongue in cheek that is too. But these two fan
bases are that crazy that somehow they find a way
to take losses and make them wins depending on those circuits.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Oh, if I'm Michigan, I'm taking a victory lap. Oh
heck yass. You know, you had a bad season, couldn't
find a quarterback first year without Jim Harball, and you
beat Ohio State at Ohio State. And this was brought
up to me by a former Ohio State player last night,
and he said, you know what changed when Michigan tried
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to plant the flag? He said, that changed this football team.
All of a sudden, they in their minds became us
against the world, and they were underdogs somehow. And I said, okay,
I mean, I'll factor that in that all of a sudden,
Jack Sawyer's grabbing the Michigan flag and throwing it away,
and now, all of a sudden, there's a different purpose
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with Ohio State. Sure, okay, I mean if you feel
that that was a seismic shift with his team, they
became a little bit more I don't know together, but
there's so much talent there. That's why, you know, when
we look at Ohio State, it's hard to say that
they were an underdog. I mean, they're incredible. You know,
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you poached guys from around the country, you spent over
twenty million. I mean, you should be great. The fact
that you couldn't come up with an offense against Michigan.
That was what was mind boggling here. I know you
lose to Oregon, but that was close game at Oregon.
This was a great team, yes, Marvin, So last night
Ohio State was David not in order Dain? Yeah, okay, no,
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just making sure. Yeah, well, David got knocked down, David
didn't have a slingshot, and then all of a sudden,
David had a shotgun. And then you're like, here comes David,
and David's going to put some heat on Ohio State.
But Ohio State was a better team. Can't imagine that
somebody's going, yeah, but we better beat Michigan next year.
I don't know if there's pressure on Ryan Day. And
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once again, I grew up in this environment. I grew
up in Ohio. I understand that feeling when Michigan would
beat Ohio State and ruin your college football season. But
I can't imagine somebody like, next year, if Ohio State
doesn't beat Michigan, that Ryan Day is all of a
sudden going to be.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
On the hot seat again.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Are we reheating Ryan Day? Yes?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Yeah, how in the world can that even be a
conversation today?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I trust me, we get to next season and if
that happens, then we will be discussing that. People will
discuss that about Ryan Deack. Rick new Heiseel a little
bit later on, and I got a couple of questions
for him, And I have great respect for Rick. One
of the smartest college football guys. I know I'm watching
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Jeremiah Smith and he's a freshman. If I said, let's
say the Patriots, you can have Travis Hunter or Jeremiah Smith,
who would you take with that second pick overall? Is
that what it is? Who would you take because you
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got a two way star? Or you have this guy
who's great. So we'll talk to new Heiseel. Also, who
is more likely to go to the NFL first, Ryan
Day or Marcus Freeman. How about that Patriots have the
fourth pick here, But so we'll talk to Rick new
Heisl little bit later on.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Yes, I was thinking about nil and Jeremiah Smith as
a freshman. What is his retention fee to stay at
Ohio State?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
But if you're Georgia oh like you, you at least
have to You won a national title at Ohio State,
so they can't be that mad. If you say, you
know what, I got to do something for my family
now I'm a freshman. If you say that, I would,
I mean, I'd at least kicked the tires on it.
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Just say how much am I worth? How much my worth?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I mean, is he worth what a quarterback's worth. I'd
say yes. My surprise is in the previous But my
surprise is against Texas. I think he had three targets.
I mean that to me is criminal. I'd get him
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the ball no matter what. Like there's certain players where
you go, I'm going to devise things to get you
the ball. You have Chip Kelly devise something. And that's
what amazed me. Ill will use him as a decoy.
N Let's just use him as the best player on
the field. They went to him last night, I still
would have gone to him more. Notre Dame plays man coverage.
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I would have gone to him, and I would have
kept going to him until they put two guys on him,
and then I'd take advantage elsewhere.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Yeah, Paul, I know all is well in Ohio state
Land today. But let's say Jeremiah Smith doesn't catch that ball,
or they target someone else, Notredame gets the ball back
and sends us to overtime. I know it's unlikely, but
the math was there that Notre Dame could win. That
Jeremi Smith had one second half target.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I don't get that.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
I was sitting there thinking about the downside, and I
was like, if Ohio State loses this game, it's going
to be catastrophic if their star player had one or
fewer targets in the second half.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I don't understand it. You know, I'm sure there's a
lot of smarter people than me that could tell me.
But I have to get him the ball, have to
like remarkable though. I mean, when they did go to him,
he made the great catch and you know this band
coverage all right? Yes, Marvin, Sorry, one more thing.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yes, is it too early to play the career salary
game with Jeremi Smith? He should changed he and put
a dollar sign.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Yeah, what's he worth? Ten million dollars? Is that fairy.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Quarterbacks get six seven million dollars? There's nobody like him
in the country. I don't. I'm sure Ohio State fans
hate hearing about what if you're Michigan. What if you're
Michigan and you go, hey, how much we got in
the collective?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Can you call Larry Ellison again, you know, one of
the five richest people in the world and a booster
there notre name or his wife went to Michigan. Hey, Larry,
we need ten million dollars? Which four? Jeremiah Smith? Oh yeah, okay, yes, Pully.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
I have on three dot com their NIL valuations and
they're very spot on. Arch Manning is number one, Carson
Beck number two, Jeremi Smith, the wide receiver is number three.
His NIL valuation is four to five million dollars. He's
the only non quarterback in the top twelve. Yeah, well
what's he worth?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Now? All right?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Eight seven seven three DP show. We'll get to other
possible pull questions. Yes, Tom, what would be a.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
Reasonable number to leave one school for your arch rivals
where you can feel comfortable with that and not get
destroyed if you care about your social following, what people
think of you.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I would not go to Michigan. I'd go south. And
he's from Florida. I'd go South Michigan.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Be like three four million dollars more? Is that enough?
And you're not getting that money anywhere else for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I'd think you somebody's gonna match the offer, But I
would be I'd be curious, what is it costing Ohio
State to keep him? And does anybody reach out to
him or one of his middleman or agents or whatever.
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Speaker 2 (15:30):
He is a former All Conference tight end in high school,
former Milwaukee Brewer great and now a Hall of Famer. C. C. Sabathia, Congratulations,
thank you, thank you. What kind of tight end were
you like? You know what?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
What?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Who did you pattern your game after? In high school?
Speaker 10 (15:52):
I was not a blocking tight end. I was more
of a need I need at least three balls throwing
my way a half before I can, you know, start blocking.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
My model was no rock, no block, no rock, no block.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Did you think about playing in college?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I did.
Speaker 10 (16:11):
I really wanted to. I really wanted to play football.
That was that was my first love. I really enjoyed
playing football. But I but I know, like my body type,
since I would have got to college, they would have
turned me into office attackle right away. So I mean
hopefully it hopefully it would have paid off. But yeah,
I mean I would have loved to be out of
been able to have a chance to go to college
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to play football.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
How many pairs of pants do you have for your
playing days? I love I'd love to get a pair
of those those pants.
Speaker 10 (16:39):
Man, You know what, I honestly, I probably have a
couple of pairs. They put it, they put They put
a few on my locker when I go back for
spring training now, just for just for fun, I can
get both legs and one and one and one leg now.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
But what made you go to those large, you know,
baggy pants.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
You know what? It was just me wanting to like
resent myself. You know.
Speaker 10 (17:01):
It was the hat being tilted sideways. When I first
came up, the pants had to be super tight like that.
You know, everybody wore the uniform super small and super tight,
and they had to elastic at the bottom. And once
I got a little older and a little established in
the league, I was like, I want to kind of
represent how I want to look on the field. And
it was the back with the big jerseys and everybody's
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wearing the throwback. So I adopted the big pants. I
tilted my hat to the side or where a big
My jersey was always my sleeves are always a lot
longer than everybody else's and it was just kind of
my style. And uh, it's a funny story about that.
One time Russell Bringion when I was in Cleveland, wore
my pants in Kansas City and George Brett came down
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and like lit him up totally. We looked like a clown,
all this stuff he wasent to making the big game
look bad and all these different things.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
It was. It was hilarious. But yeah, I have a
few pairs I can send you something.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
What about the hat though, when you wore the hat
to the side, what kind of reaction did you get.
Speaker 10 (18:01):
Early in my career, not a good reaction obviously, as
you know how the big leagues are with the unwritten rules,
and you know, just being a young guy I was.
I was twenty years old in that clubhouse when I
first came up, so I was the youngest guy. The
next oldest guy on that team was, you know, twenty six,
twenty seven, so it was even hard to you know,
for guys to relate to me. So yeah, I mean
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it was just my thing. It was, you know, me
wearing my hat way to the side and going to
grab the ball with my hand from the third basement
after every out. Was just kind of what two of
those things that I wanted to be mine and I
was able to carry that for you know, through my
career for nineteen years.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Okay, but just tilting your hat to the sign. Was
that something that your boys did, like guys you hung
around with, Well.
Speaker 10 (18:43):
No, you know what So when I when I was
in high school, my high school coach, he would get
on me about the way I wore my hat because
scouts would show up at the field so early, so
they would watch. I would always have my hat on
backwards or you know, propped up on my head and
you know, just walk into the park. So he would
always get on me about, you know, the way I looked,
the way I you know, represented myself walking you know,
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with scouts walking around. So after I got drafted and
you know, I felt like I was established, I was like,
I'm more on my hat, however I want to however
I want to wear it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
What's like Ken Griffey Junior when he had his hat backwards.
All the baseball purists like, you're disrespecting the game.
Speaker 10 (19:21):
Yeah, no, I mean it's just a thing that you know,
and you know, other guys started adopting. You know, Fernando
Rodney came up. He was wearing his hat to the side.
Don Trelle Willis came up. We're from that same you
know area. We've been knowing each other forever. He was
wearing his hat to the side. So it became a thing,
and and uh, you know, I'm glad I stuck with it.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Honestly, he's CC Sabbathia, freshly minted Hall of Famer. Where
were you when you got the call?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I was here. I was home. You know.
Speaker 10 (19:48):
We we had a bunch of people over and Baseball
Hall of Fame is you know, it's it's a tricky thing.
You don't know if you're gonna get that call or that.
So we had a big party last night. And it
could have been, you know, a big party. It could
have you know, made for good TV, or you know,
it made for you know, a good celebration last night.
But you know, I wanted everybody around whether I got
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the call or not last night. It's just special being
on the ballot. I know how hard it is to
get into the Baseball Hall of Fame being you know,
just a sports fan in general, and understanding sports.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
So it was a special moment for us.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Did you cry?
Speaker 10 (20:22):
I haven't yet, but you know, like I see different
things and I get on the verge of crying and
then somebody text me or somebody calls it. I've been
so busy, you know, with with you know, planning and
you know, we're driving up a Cooperstown in an hour
and all these different things. I think I haven't had
a chance to really sit down and process it yet.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Which it means though, to go in first ballance it.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Means, I mean, it means a lot.
Speaker 10 (20:47):
I mean, and like we like I just said, you know,
understanding you know, Baseball Hall and understanding just a Hall
of Fame in general. I don't think ten years ago,
I don't think I go in as a first ballot
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
You know, I think, you.
Speaker 10 (20:59):
Know, the the way the writers have looked at the game,
and you know, the way the game has changed has
allowed me to be a first ballot Hall of Famer,
which is awesome to me. And you know, now I
look at you know, myself and somebody like you know,
justin Verlander, Max scherz Er, you know Greenky. You know,
we're kind of starters you know, we're dying breed, you know,
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So you know, I feel like, you know, all those
guys I just named the going first ballot.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Too, and Kershaw as well.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
But you're Kershaw too.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I'm sorry, Yeah, but you're talking about that. You had
thirty eight career complete games. Guys won't come close to that,
and then pitching and have three thousand strikeouts and two
hundred felt like it's almost like the running back where
we got to the point where we devalued the running back.
Now the running back came back, but the analytics has
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changed everything, and I don't know how analytics may have
helped you be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
Yeah, I think, I mean, I think there will be
a lot more guys with you know, one hundred and
fifty wins, three thousand strikeouts. You know, if you think,
I think there'll be a lot more guys because if
you look at it, the guys guys strake out two
hundred and fifty two hundred and fifty guys a year
now or you know, getting close to three hundred strikeouts
a year just because you know, hitters don't care about
striking out. So I think we'll get guys with three
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thousand strikeouts, I think it'll be harder to get guys
to two hundred wins. And as far as analytics for me,
I mean yeah, I mean I think they helped in
you know, I think they helped me get into the
Hall of Fame obviously, like I said, because of you know,
the dying breeders starters. But while I was playing, you know,
it was hard to you know, transition to you know,
this this world of analytics and you know, trying to
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understand that it wants you to just throw your best
pitch over and over and over again, where you know,
I understand you need to set up you know, hitters
to be able to you know, trick them with your
best pitch. So you know, it was it was tough
at the end of my career, you know, trying to
pitch with analytics. But you know, being outside out of
the game and understanding analytics, I understand, you know there's
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a need.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
For it in the game.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
How did you do against each hei Roll?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Well, I mean, you know what, I honestly don't know.
Speaker 10 (23:07):
I bet you each ye old has a good career
batting batting average against me. Somebody told me last night
that he was my thousand strikeout though, so that's pretty cool.
But I got a cool story. I mean, two thousand
and six, I was struggling trying to figure out I
needed a putout pitch. So we're trying to figure out.
I was trying to, you know, how to learn how
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to throw a cutter. Carl Willis and I went down
to the bullpen in Oakland and he showed me a
grip of how he threw his cutter. And I came
out of that bullpen with like an eighty two eighty
three mile an hour slider that I started throwing, and
I was like, Oh, this thing is nasty. I can't
wait till my next start. We go from Oakland and Seattle.
Next time I get into a game, I take it
out there, and the first time I throw it in
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the game, each roll hit it off the window.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
In my mind, I'm like, oh, no, it's just easy.
Speaker 10 (23:54):
Like it's good because I'm getting out with it, I'm
getting stikes with and I'm like, no, it's good.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
He comes up the next time he hits it out
of you.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Who is the guy though? That you could never figure out?
Speaker 10 (24:09):
Uh man, it was a bunch, But I think Evan
Longoria was a guy that I'll be staying on them
out be like, man, I'm just I can't.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I got nothing for you but him.
Speaker 10 (24:19):
Manny Ramirez, you know, uh, Miguel Cabrera, you know, just
those quiet, right handed hitters that you know, see the
strikes on the well.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Who's going to help you with your speech?
Speaker 10 (24:33):
I think everybody's gonna help me with my speech, you know,
I mean anybody that knows me. You know, I hate
standing up in front of people and you know, kind
of public speaking. So I'm gonna pull inspiration from everybody.
But I want to I want to make sure I
get it right. I want to make sure, you know,
I get I named the right people and and uh,
you know, get people their just due because it wasn't
just me. You know the reason why. You know, I'm
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going to Cooper.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Shown as a Yankee, hopefully as a Yankee, yes, as
a Yanks.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Should the ballot be made public, the writers one one
person didn't vote for each roll.
Speaker 10 (25:09):
Uh you know what, I don't think, So, I mean,
I don't I don't like, you know, worrying about who
didn't vote for who. I mean, it's you know, he's
in the Hall of fame. Now, So what difference does
it make? You know, we spend so much time, you know,
worried about the negative and you know why he didn't
vote for each row. But let's talk about the three
hundred and ninety five votes he did get and you know,
him going to Cooperstown because he's well deserved of it.
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So you know, it's you know, it's just a you know,
something that you know in baseball we all all worry about.
In the other sports, it doesn't matter, right, it doesn't
matter what present of the vote you get.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Once you go in, you're in. So you know, it
kind of is what it is.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Best player you played with in your career was who
ay Rod? Wow, that was quick?
Speaker 10 (25:51):
Oh yeah? Why give Robbie a Lamar a close second?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Really?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
So what was it about a ra that you'd take
him over everybody else?
Speaker 10 (26:03):
I mean, obviously, just is the talent that you know,
I mean, you know, six ' three, you know, third
basement shortstop at the time. You know when I when
I was coming up the third basement of the time
and I played with him, but his baseball IQ, his
IQ was off the charge, the way he watches the game,
the way you're sitting next to him on the bench,
and you know, he'd be like, Oh, we need to
hit and run here, or oh we need to double steal,
or oh this team is going to do this. He
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watches the game at a different level than we all
watch the game, and you know, having a chance to
play with him and have him at third base, there'd
be times when you know, a guy be coming up
and he'd be like, Hey, you know, throw a change
up right here. This guy swinging first pitch, or you
know this guy you know he may be taking right here.
So he would be you know, just watching the game
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and the IQ and obviously putting the talent with that.
You know, he was the best player that I that
I've ever got a chance to be up close to.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Did you ever get to socialize with Jeter?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Oh? Yeah, I'm really close with Jeter. He was actually
just calling me right now.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I mean, oh, yeah, he's upset that you said a
Rod over Jeter. But did you go out in New York? Like,
what what was it like when Jeter was out?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (27:11):
I mean it was It's always a lot of fun
to go out with Jet and hang out with Jet
because he takes all the attention so like I can
just kind of like hang out and slide in and
nobody's going actually autographs or pictures or anything, and he
just kind of ride his coattail. So uh yeah, I
mean he was he was always really cool. I mean
as soon as I got here to New York, uh
that first bring training, me and him, Posada, you know,
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all the guys, we got really close, and I think
that was the reason why we were able to wear
right away.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
But you didn't sit there and go, who's uh Jeter
dating now, like, who's who's that? Who's a like his
lineup card at Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Oh no, I had nothing to do with me.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
But as an innocent bystander, you have to be like, oh,
that looks like, oh that is that's a favorite famous act.
Jeter is definitely gonna be calling you now. He congratulations
and uh, don't be afraid. Don't be afraid to a mote,
you know, you cry, We're right there with you.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Thank you all right at cc Sabathia.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
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Speaker 2 (28:23):
He's Ryan Day, head coach at Ohio State, National champs coach. Congratulations.
How much of this was joy and how much of
this was relief?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
And it was a combination of the two. Yeah, it
was it was both. And I think the whole run
that we went on throughout the playoffs was that way.
I really haven't had as much fun coaching a team
like that in a long time. It was just a
bunch of guys together. There really was no class because
class was out, and we just spent a bunch of
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time together and had a bunch of fun, bunch of
fun playing. But in the end ends, as we headed
in that last game, we just knew that, you know,
it would just be another story that kind of comes
and goes. But now the fact that we won, we're
able to cement that story in the history of college
football and obviously at Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
But take me back to Michigan, and I had a
former player say this to me that when Michigan tried
to plant the flag, that maybe brought your team together
or more together. Whether that's true or not, you would
know that better. But it's almost like it galvanized this team.
Nothing's going to be easy us against the world. They
embarrassed us. Now let's go out and prove that we're
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still the best team. Anything I'm saying that wasn't true.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
I think it's certainly part of the story of the year,
there's no question about that. And I felt like this
team was close anyways. I thought we were galvanized. But
when you go through something like that, you know, you
have to regroup and figure out, most importantly what happened
and how do we get these things fixed. So, you know,
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there's a lot of ways to look at this, and
some more dramatic than others, but the truth is we
had to get things fixed. There was things that were
just not right coming out of that game that, you know,
all three phases we need to get addressed, and that
was the bottom line. And then there was a lot
of other things that came with it, as you know,
And you know, once we got those things addressing, the
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players recognize that things needed to get fixed and knew
the plan going into the Tennessee game. There was just
there was a collective, just like you said, a bunch
of guys together saying all right, we're gonna make this
run and we're gonna be dangerous. Once we get some
momentum going again.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
But how does this affect you personally? You lose to
Michigan again, and you know that topic in Columbus in
that state, and you know, you're I don't know if
you're fighting for survival or what I tell me your
emotions where you lose to Michigan again and you know
the importance of what that means.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah, I mean, sir, only you know, there was obviously
disappointment amongst all the other emotions. But you know, once
those things kind of come and go and you have
a couple of days, you have to refocus yourself. And
as difficult as that was, it was an opportunity to
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write an unbelievable story. And then next month and I
I felt like it was an opportunity for me as
a dad, as a husband, and as a man to
show my family that you know, when you get knocked
down and you're backed up against the wall, that you know,
it's about how you handle yourself and how you fight
yourself out of these types of situations. And then and
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then you know, for our team, you know, for the
guys on the team and the seniors and even the
young guys to watch, you know, you know, how you
handle yourself and then have something to grab on to
it for the rest of their life, and then serve
as an example for all the Buckeye fans who you know,
certainly you know had ups and downs this season, but
we're able to, you know, see how you hand yourself
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when when things get really really difficult, and I think
that really defines people's character.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
It was reported there were death threats. How do you
talk to your kids about that or your wife about
how do you process that?
Speaker 4 (32:16):
I think every year for us, it's become easier to
manage when you know, our family first was named you know,
the head coach in twenty nineteen. My wife and the
kids were smaller than we were all sitting on the
bed together, and I've told the story before. She said,
you know, started crying, said our family's never going to
be the same again, and she was right. But that
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didn't make it easy. You know, you're expected to win
them all and when you don't, it's it's tough, but
that's because of the passion, and nobody puts more pressure
on themselves than myself and my family. Nobody wants to
win more than my kids and my wife, So it
isn't so much that because they're more disappointed than anybody
could possibly be in Buckeye Nation. And so we share
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the same frustration because you know, my family and my
kids want to win worse than even I do. I mean,
I just that's the way they're wired. And and they
love the fans, and so you know, when when you
do lose, you know, there's there's a feeling of disappointment,
and you know you share in the frustration with with
people because they love it so much. But that's that's
also living. You know, you're relevant. I mean, that's that's
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what makes Ohio State so special, is because people care
so much. Now with that comes from some craziness, but
that's okay. Uh, it also makes when you win that
much more special.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
What was it like when you saw your family after
you won the title?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Yeah, that was Yeah, that was a special moment. You know,
something that you know, always remember, just the fact that
you could look at your your family and your wife
and the eyes and say, hey, we we did this
thing together, and they did. They were a big part
of it. And we know where we were about a
month and a half ago and where we are right now.
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And it was pure Joy, like you mentioned earlier.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Is Ryan Day, head coach of Ohio State national champs.
Take me back to the third and eleven call. Who
makes the call and was what was the other option
in that situation?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Well, we were trying to run down the clock we had.
There's a point in the game where we're up by
multiple scores and you start doing the math on it,
and you're like, man, if we can just run out
a few minutes, you know, each time we have the
ball and continue to get some first downs and we
could just you can milk this thing and win. And
when you're talking about being that close to a national championship,
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you know you're holding on real tight. Maybe held on
a little too tight. But on first and second down,
we were gonna run the ball. We thought about throwing
it on second down because we saw a man the
man coverage on the outside, and you know, wanted to
keep the clock running. And then they called the time
out and on the headset, there's a lot of back
and forth there. Our whole offensive staff, I thought, did
a great job throughout the whole run chips obviously right
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there and we said, you know, we run it one
more time and chew up the clock, and some guys said, no,
let's let's call third down play, And so we looked
at the call sheet and we saw a play that
is one of our bass plays that we put in
day one. We're literally it's a go ball on the
outside of the outside receivers and a mill read by
our h and a couple of checkdowns by the inside guys,
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and we say, if we're lucky enough to get one
on one on the outside. And then when we were
launching that thing up away from the free safety, and
we had worked hard on that route in particular because
we knew we were getting a certain technique in the game,
and so when we saw it, you know, our eyes
lit up, so the will's and certainly had to be executed.
But it was like in slow motion.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I'm just gonna say, what's it like when that ball's
in the air.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Slow motion? Just like holding your breath, knowing that if
we catch this thing, we're probably national champs. And there's
an unbelievable picture. It's a still photo from the sideline
from the other way. You can see our entire sideline
as the balls in the air, and just the look
of everybody's face on that sideline is amazing just because
everyone can see, like we catch this ball, We're gonna
be national champs.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
It was quite a moment. How difficult is it to
keep your roster together? There's a report that Jeremiah Smith
offered four and a half million dollars. Like Ohio State
doesn't usually lose players, but now in today's nil and
transfer portal, everybody's fair game. So how do you go
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about having conversations or retaining some of your players?
Speaker 4 (36:24):
I think the first thing you'd have to bring in
great people and great families, but you also have to
value them and try to do everything you can to
get what they deserve and what's fair. But there's also
something to be said for being around a program like ours,
and you know, you think if it's all equal, you
know we'll have a chance to get our share of guys.
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But it is different, There's no question. I think as
coaches were all looking for a little bit more guidelines
on this. I mean, everything is so gray right now, and.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
How does that work though? Coach that Let's say I
wanted to talk to Jeremiah. Let's say I'm Georgia. I
want to talk to him, Like, how does that go?
About that you get in front of somebody or you know,
you put a price tag, and is there tampering in
college football?
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I think one of the big issues that we have
in across the board in college football right now is enforcement.
I mean, you just you know, you know some of
the stories of some of the things that have gone
on just you know, within the last couple of years
or even in the past, but enforcement is really strained
right now. And so until we start enforcing some of
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these rules, like you said, I mean, people can just
call someone's agents or someone's parents and offer them a
certain amount of money and then it goes from there.
And that's just part of it. I mean, there's so
many other things that come in place. So that's one
of the things to me that I think we've got
to get addressed in college sports. In college football is enforcement,
because right now there's virtually none, and it's it's gotten
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worse as time has gone on.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
When's the last time but NFL team reached out to you, uh, you.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Know, they don't really reach out to me. They would
reach out, I guess to my agent and that happened sometimes.
But you know, we've not really engaged because I love
Ohio State, and I want to be here as long
as I can.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
So that's not a goal.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
No, that's not a goal. It's not a goal. And
I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't consider that somewhere down
the line. But my son is a sophomore in high school,
my daughters are in middle school. They love it here,
and you know, I want to be here, you know,
through there, through there, you know, run through high school
and then you know, see what the next phase brings.
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But but like I said, you know, once the confetti fell,
that was it. It's on next year.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Do you get a vacation?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Yeah, yeah, we'll have We'll have some time. But but
it's not like, you know, we're going away to Tahi
for a week talking.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Were you on the phone to recruits after the national title?
Speaker 4 (39:05):
It recruits and you know, are our current players and.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah, that night, I mean, that's a great thing. Saban
would do that. He'd win a national title, get on
the phone and say to a recruit, Hey, you could
be celebrating with us, Confetti probably in his hair. Did
you do that?
Speaker 10 (39:23):
No?
Speaker 4 (39:23):
But you know what's interesting is the timetables changed. So
the early signing day we had one hundred and forty
five guys on our team this year, and over twenty
of them were recruits that started classes on January sixth,
so they were actually with the team for the last
two games, so instead of the signing day which should
be happening next Wednesday, they had signed and were enrolled
in classes. So like, the timetables changed a lot. But
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you know, we have obviously, you know, been recruiting the
twenty sixth class, which is about another year away.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Where would you put Jeremiah Smith with the other receivers
you've coached.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Well after the first year, it's hard to put him
anywhere other than one. I think some of those guys
had great freshman years, but not not like this.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
We need to check his birth certificate, Like how old
do you see, coach come on?
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Nineteen years old?
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Yeah, but he special and we knew he was special,
and his maturity is beyond his years physically, mentally and emotionally.
He's a special talent, as you know.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Congrats, enjoy it while you can, because we know what happens.
So this season starts, then there's the Michigan game. Keep
smiling never ends, does it? Thank you?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Coach? Ever?
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Does respect.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
It's Ryan Day, head coach of Ohio State