May 10, 2025 • 53 mins
NBA Hall of Famer Ray Allen talks about the Celtics' strategy against the Knicks and shares a story about borrowing shoes from Michael Jordan in a freezing United Center. Actor Vince Vaughn previews his new Netflix film "Nonnas," and discusses what it's like being a Chicago sports fan. Plus, Director Spike Lee joins Dan to celebrate his Knicks' success thus far this postseason.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Ray Allen, Hall of Famer and two time NBA champ
joining us on the program. You put up all those
numbers in Seattle. You spent five years in Seattle?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Okay, are those numbers now attached to the Oklahoma City
Thunder since the SuperSonics went to Oka?
Speaker 4 (00:22):
See?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Like, could your jersey number be retired by OKAC based
off what you did in Seattle?
Speaker 5 (00:29):
Technically I think it could be, but I think for
tradition speaking, you know, typically you raise a banner or
jersey in a place that is kind of familiar to
that city. And nobody in Oklahoma City really had ever
watched me play in that city, so I don't think.
Speaker 6 (00:50):
And it's a ownership mandate as well, so I don't
think that would ever happen.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Is there a building where your jersey is up in
the rafters in Seattle?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:04):
In Ky Arena, Okay, it would, I would say, possibly,
But it's Key Arena.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
I don't think. I don't even know they use it
for anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Okay, here's a couple of things I'm going to talk
to you about. The Celtics. Keep shooting threes the other night. Yeah,
now you had a game I think you went over
thirteen from three point range. But as a great shooter,
you're told to keep shooting. But at what point do
you stop shooting threes if you're the Celtics the other night,
or do you stop shooting threes?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Well, the other night, I think the Celtics shot sixty threes,
and they were shooting them at points when the Knicks
kept kind of plugging them away. And they're plugging away
and they're playing, they're playing tougher, they're getting tougher buckets.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
The next word.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Obviously Brussels getting so many mid range shots, so he
had a great offensive rhythm. I don't think the Celtics
ever built their rhythm offensively. Now they take a lot
of threes early and they take them throughout the game
and when they're going because you got multiple guys that
shoot threes and shoot them well. But if you never
build a rhythm, you know, get into the basket, getting
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to the free throw line, to the mid range game.
That's kind of where there was a hole in that
game for the Celtics other night. So to answer your question,
they got to figure out getting some easy buckets, you know,
just kind of establishing rhythm as opposed to just kind
of let the fly consistent. Because it's the playoffs, it
changes a lot because now those shots become smaller opportunities
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and they're shooting quicker, and it's important for them to
try to figure out a way to get some rhythm
stuff start in the game.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Early.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, I just thought, you know, go inside, get fouled,
go to the free throw line, get like, let's break
up all this and just get something there. That's what
was surprising. But the analytics say, I think to keep
shoot the threes, don't.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
They well, obviously, because threes are more than two's and
that's what everybody says. You keep shooting them, and they've
been highly successful at it.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
So it's hard.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
To stop what you've been doing and what's made you
successful this whole year. But you have to take into
account that the game does slow down a little bit
more in the playoffs, and you're putting so much pressure
on Tatum. He makes a lot of tough threes. Jalen
went to the basket and got a layup at one
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point during that fourth quarter, and I was like, Okay,
that's steady. The offense a little bit, and you see
them and you want them to drive because you look
at the Knicks defense. You know there's a lot of
holes in their defense if you just drive. There's a
couple of times where even Derek White had the ball
in the paint and he the basket was behind them
and he's looking out towards the Berman as supposed to
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just turn around and get something easy, and it is hopefully.
You know, they'll look at the film and you know,
I'm sure Missoula will say, these are just shots.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
That we missed.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
You know, we're all capable of making these shots. But
to make it easier on yourself, you know, it's hard
in a playoff situation because you know you could make
those shots. So I just think to start the game tonight,
they had to make sure that they get to the
free throw line early and establish something in the paint
from the standpoint of driving and getting some easy stuff.
(04:19):
Because as a shooter, I'll tell you I did not
want to start a game shooting at three because if
you miss, then you start pressing, and then you start pressing.
I didn't want to have to feel like I was pressing.
In Boston, we had so many good players that score,
so I want to make sure I got to the
basket early if I could.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Talking to Ray Allen, former three point Shooting Contest winner
back in two thousand and one, do you practice missing
free throws? We saw that with Tyrese Halliburton, because you
know he's got to miss the free throw, but you
got to miss it correctly to get a chance. Do
you practice missing free throws?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Well, I mean it sounds funny, but you know how
to miss h and it's just kind of being off
and obviously you're looking to who your best rebounder is
on what side. So yeah, there is some precision to
being able to miss a free throw.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
I can't say that I practiced it, Uh, but I
definitely know how to aim up there and get it
to bounce on one side or the other.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, you did practice making them, though. You did a
really good job at that.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I did. I did.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
I was pretty good at it.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, but I never understood that.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Explain to me what happens when guys go to the
free throw line and all of a sudden, they they
free You know, they they're it's not fluid. They like
everything slows, you know, it stops maybe that's what it is.
Guys you used to moving, all of a sudden it stops.
But the mind games that go on with these guys
who can't shoot free.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Throws, well, it's simpler when you think about golf. When
you stand to the t box and they call your
name and they say where you're from exactly, and all
of a sudden they everybody's quiet. I was like, keep
making noise uncomfortable to know, you know, don't be quiet.
I think what people and I say this a lot
with free throws. People don't understand how emotional a free
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throw is. You know, when you think about a guy
going to the free throw line, and emotions don't always
mean anger, but your your adrenaline is pumping. You just
got knocked on your butt. You know you're either down
to or you're up to. You just dunked on somebody.
All these emotions are inside of you, and for most players,
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imagine a situation in practice where you practice those emotions.
It's hard to practice feeling competitive, to practice feeling angry,
to practice feeling anxious, practice feeling desperate. How do you
do that in the gym by yourself? And so you
have to figure out a way when you practice to
take that that quiet gym and make yourself tired, make
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yourself mad, make yourself excited, because that feeling you have
to get used to in a game and a lot
of time. Then when they get into a game situation,
it's a foreign situation for them when they go to
that free throw line, because think about you take somebody
life like Pritchard. You know, Gray Shooter had a great year,
but how often is he at the free throw line
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in the fourth quarter if it's not Tatum or Brown?
So now he goes to the free throw line because
it gets out is Sometimes it's a foreign circumstance or
situation for a lot of players, and that's why you
do get nervous because it's like, I'm not used to this,
and I gotta get used to.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
I got to I gotta be better at figuring out
the situation.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
One thing that drives me crazy, and I'm sure I
drive my audience crazy because I bring it up all
the time. I never want the best player to beat me. Never.
I'm always going to send another guy. I got to
get the ball out of your hands. I want somebody
who's not used to taking that shot. And if that
guy beats me. I live with that. It's like, you know,
when Jordan beats Brian Russell, they don't send another guy
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and guy got it get the ball out of his hands, right, Like,
I don't help me understand that. If Jalen Brunson has
the ball, I'm gonna double I'm gonna get the ball
out of his hands.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I have to do that. But why don't more coaches
do that?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Well?
Speaker 5 (08:14):
I think it's a double airt sword because when you
want you don't want the best player to beat you.
There's some scenarios, some playoff situations you kind of walk
into and you say, he's gonna get his forty, but
we can't let these other guys get off, you know.
So it is each situation from from series to series.
(08:36):
You know, what are you dealing with? Like if you
look at Indiana, you got Nessmith that had twenty three,
and Turner had twenty three and nim Hard had thirteen.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And this is the last shot though, this is the
last shot. That's all I'm talking about. Even Halliburton has
the ball, that's the guy I know who wants the ball.
I have to send another guy his way. I'm not
gonna let him beat me and they gave him. You know,
he created space. It was a tough shot though, but
he but he's only he's got single coverage on it.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Yeah, I mean it's always we can be perfect defensively
as a as a scheme, you know, going to the game,
but we always say good offense, better defense, or good
defense better offense.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
I'm sorry, We're.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Playing a scheme a certain way and then a guy
makes a tough shot over the top of us. We
have to shake their head because this league is fulled
filled with great offensive players, so they can, like I said,
it can go either way. You know, we'll run to
at a guy because he got hot. Saif a guy
has forty plus, you know, I don't know. Halliburton only
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had nineteen points last night, so it wasn't like he
was cooking.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
But he's a closer.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah, But you just.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Kind of you live with those odds because if you
look at defenses and you look at all these playoff games,
the one thing that you find fascinating is there's there's
no paint presence. Last night, I don't know who, I
don't remember. It was Draymond Green. He came straight down
the lane and dunked it, and there was no awareness.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
From Minnesota whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
And that's the one thing in playoff basketball that you
kind of you know, you fortify your defense with a
paint presence and you work from inside out. And you
see that consistently because you know so many teams are
shooting threes. And then you look at the ball the
way the ball bounced, you know, against against with the
Golden State, and you see how many rebounds they got.
(10:34):
In Minnesota's the bigger team, you know, you think about
how many rebounds they didn't get. Go Bear had eleven
and I think Anthony had fourteen or somewhere around there.
But those balls are bounding so long, so spreading the
defense out, and then you're trying to figure out what
we try to do. On most teams I played on,
we tried to keep our big guy in the paint.
(10:54):
You know, we rotated with playing man the man, so
if it was myself and KG, I tried to stay
up top and he stayed low so if somebody did drive,
they had to see him. And right now you just
don't see that that fortification of the painting. There's so
many holes right now in their defense. So that's ultimately
a system where it's built around team shooting threes.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
What's your favorite pair of shoes behind you?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
My favorite pair, I would have to go up. I'd
have to go up one, two, three, four. If I
can show you.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Oh my goodness, you got a whole wall, this one
right here?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Okay, number four? So those are how many of those
are air Jordan's.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
They're one through thirty, one through thirty.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
You might sign any shoes that you have.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
No, you wouldn't ask him. I have it, like I
have a jersey he is hanging on my wall and
I played golf with him regularly. I wouldn't ask them,
but I think at some point I should here in
the future, just just for keepsake, just having momentum. And
I know he would if I asked him. But but
(12:10):
I thought about it, but I haven't done it yet.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Okay, But if you have them in the back of
the golf cart and then you know Mike probably sees them,
and then you go, oh god, yeah, sorry, I thought
I was going to leave these in the car. Uh,
And then you have a sharpie attached to it. Then
all of a sudden, see that I'm a vet right here.
(12:33):
DP that's like the rookie move to do that. If
somebody did that to me, I'd be looking at I'm like,
really really do Okay, left it with the sharpie on
the on taped up to it. Okay, what if you
send somebody you guys, guys used to do this where
you'd send the clubhouse guy over to get something signed
(12:54):
by somebody in the other locker room.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Right, okay, did that?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Did it?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I'll tell you a story. One time when I was
playing in Milwaukee. I was always early and the bus
wasn't there yet, so I took the cab over and
I'm sitting in the locker room. So our equipment manager
didn't get our gear out yet. So I'm sitting in
the locker room and I'm antsy trying to get on
the court. And you know, the United senter was always freezing,
so you wanted to come like bundled. So I'm sitting
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there and the equipment guy from the Bulls comes to
the locker room. He goes, you guys didn't get here yet.
I said, no, they're not here. I'm just waiting on him.
He goes, Mike's on the other side. You know, he
has some stuff. Maybe you want to ask him. And
I was like really, and He's like, yeah, but you
got to ask him. You got to go in there
and ask him. And you know, this was probably like
three years in the league. And I'm like, ask, go
over there and ask. I was like, can you ask
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for me? He goes, no, you got to ask me.
And so I went in there and I was like, Mike,
you think I could borrow a pair of shoes And
I'm already wearing the shoes anyway, I'm under contract.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
And He's like, sure, kid, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
And in the hall, I walked in the cabinet full
of Jordan's just like all the way down and there are.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Where are those shoes?
Speaker 6 (14:05):
I don't know, there's somewhere floating. I got so many
shoes like tucked everywhere.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
We brought this up yesterday.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
The Hall of very Good, like the guys that you
played against or with, like Jamal Crawford in the Hall
of very Good. Not a Hall of Famer, but you
know hall of very good. Who would you put in there?
Maybe you played against, you know, contemporaries where you go.
That guy should be in the Hall of very Good.
Not a Hall of Famer, but Hall of very good
(14:31):
uh that.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
I played with.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
I would definitely say two players that just you know,
one in particular that would kill the game today is
Then Baker.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Okay, he just he was around the basket.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
I didn't think anybody could stop him, and he still
could shoot, you know, in the from he would be
really good in today's game. And obviously, you know, these
are two guys that I played with my rookie year
in Glenn Robinson and you know, arguably one of the
greatest college players of all time.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
And I think they don't get their their uh their credit,
but they.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Were incredible scores and and when I watched then nobody
could stop them, you know. So they were good and
they just ended up not being on teams once they
left the walk people, but they had any any symblus
of success. But I thought they were incredible and and
so you look at the game today, we don't have
those you know, you talk about those mid range players,
(15:29):
those pick great pick and roll players. Uh, think about
Terrell Brandon. He was dubbed best point guard in the world.
Sports illustrated like this he was he was split a
pick and roll. His mid range game he was automatic,
and I learned a lot from him. You know, just
playing with those three guys helped my game tremendously.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
And we don't have that that skill level right now
in the NBA because of the overuse of the three ball.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, I still keep I can't get it out of
my mind that you're wearing Michael Jordan's shoes playing against
Michael Jordan.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Well, just remember my second game in the NBA. My
first game was Minnesota Timberwolves a preseason and the second
one and I seen the schedule. So I was still
in my college apartment when I got the schedule in
October fifteenth, nineteen ninety three, Chicago Bulls United Center, and
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I'm sitting there. I still got poster him on my
wall right here in my room, and I'm like, I'm
about to play against Michael Jordan. So I'm wearing his
shoes on October fifteen. I'm stretching and then I hear
the whole introduction, and you know, I'm used to being
on the other side looking at the TV watching all
this stuff happen, and now I'm like, wow, this is
(16:48):
so crazy. I'm inside the TV right now. And then
I'm sitting here on the ground, stretching and I'm doing
this and I'm just kind of and I see the
bulls run out and he's the last one, and I
couldn't believe it, you know, just as much as I've
watched him and kind of like study this game and
he's kind of he was such a big role model,
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and then being on the same floor with him, it
was just unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Did he talk trash dude?
Speaker 5 (17:14):
No, But at jump Bald he walks over to me
and he said, welcome to the NBA. Ray, like, you
just don't understand, like this man he's you know, to
be great, you also have to be intelligent. You know,
you can't walk around and be oblivious.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
To the things around you.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
So he knows everybody who's playing against you, study your opponents,
you watch the draft. You know who's young and come
into the league. And so as us young players, we're
so naive to that idea. You start to realize how
much you have to immerse yourself in this game and
you have to know every player in the league. You
can't just think that, oh, I'm the best player, I
don't care about anybody. You really have to study this
(17:56):
game and who's in it.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
What's on your shirt, Jesus shooting a jumper.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
That's not Jesus Shuttlesworth, that's Jesus. I don't know about
Jesus form though.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Ray, Yeah, this one a we got. We'll work with him.
We'll give him a pass. We definitely will give him
a pass.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Thank you, Ray, Good to talk to you again. That's righting.
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Vince Vaughn actor, producer, director, writer, comedian new Netflix film
Nona's and It'll come out tomorrow on Netflix. So he
plays a guy who opens up an Italian restaurant and
features local grandmothers. He just lost his mother and he
brings them in. So you got Lorraine Broco, Rendo Vicaro,
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Susan Sarandon, Talia Shire, they play the nonahs, and you
got Vince Vaughn who's running the restaurant. Vince joins us
on the program, ho'd you decide on this or come
across this idea?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
How you doing?
Speaker 9 (20:10):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Good to be with you?
Speaker 9 (20:12):
You know I got the script that the director Stephen
Schabowski directed that movie Wonder, which I really liked, And
when I saw the script and read it and knew
it was based on a true story, I just thought
it was very unique. You know, this guy opens a
restaurant for these older women that have been a little
forgotten or maybe not given as much opportunities to be productive,
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and he was mourning the loss of his own family members,
so in a way, he was trying to create family connection.
And I thought the story was just very moving, and
the meeting the guy he was so refreshing because it
was really about giving these known as this opportunity. More
than he had a business plan, more than he was
looking to expand it. He was really just sort of
(20:54):
looking to create great nights, great atmospheres in this restaurant.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I'm guessing laughs, but I'm gas seeing maybe some tears
in this.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
You're not wrong, as.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
Always, Patrick, you're right there near the bullseye.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Do you try.
Speaker 9 (21:09):
Yeah, there's definitely some comedy in it, but but it's
a it's you know, it's it's it's it's a feel good,
I would say, But it definitely deals with with sort
of you.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Know, mourning, all right, but you know you're gonna provide
it'll be lighthearted as well. I just want to make
sure that you know, I'm prepared for this. I want
to go in knowing kind of what the parameters are emotionally.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Yeah, you know, there's definitely some laughs.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
The actresses are phenomenal, the all the the great actors
that you that you mentioned are terrific, and they all
really shine in the movie. And the double has got
good chemistry. It's fun the movie. You know, this director
is very good. Did you see wonder I did not? Yeah,
well you got one on the list. There's a few,
and now you got another one, all right, and he's
very good.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
He's very good.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I I was in a movie with Susan Sarandon.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
That's that's correct.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Did you know it's very nice?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
She's a lovely lady. Did you a very lovely lady?
I know she is, but did you know I was,
like I'd like say, co starred. But I was in
a movie with Susan Sarandon?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Which which which movie?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
That's my boy? Did you see it?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Is that am with Sandler?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Fantastic.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I was so good. You probably didn't know it was me.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
But you're dazzled a few times. Well you dazzled a
few times.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I know, how do you How do friends politely ask
you to be in a movie?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
There is there an approach.
Speaker 9 (22:37):
I mean I have had that happen to me where
people it's it's challenging, but it depends.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
You know, most people. Sometimes people are.
Speaker 9 (22:44):
Just like looking to get their movie made, and so
they're just sort of like in this mode where they're
kind of just going for I mean, if it's a
very close friend, obviously I'll take it seriously. But if
it's kind of an acquaintance, it's an awkward experience. I'm
sure you get that in versions of that as well.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I do.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
And I've tried to reach out to Will Ferrell, and
I don't know how to do it, to say I
kind of like to be in a movie. So I
basically called him out on radio, but I haven't I've
got radio silence here from him. I haven't heard back
from Oh, it didn't go well, it did not go well.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
It didn't go well. Well.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
You know what I think it bow that it's out
there can only get better from heal. The healing is
going to start because you've addressed it.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Well.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
He did say that I belonged to Sandler, and I said, look,
I'm willing to see other feelings. I'm willing to see
other people. You know, behind Sandler's back, that's hurt feelings.
Speaker 9 (23:38):
He was carrying his own conversation you weren't aware of,
and that makes sense. Then maybe he felt maybe he
felt a little shudened. So I think sunlight is always
a great remedy. So I don't think there's anything bad
that can come out of this conversation between two friends.
And I wouldn't be shocked to see you and him
doing something and maybe Adam in it as well.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Well.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I did say to Sandler, a, you know, maybe get
Will Ferrell in a movie. Then therefore I can then
be around Will again and then I can pitch something.
But you know, maybe maybe maybe there's a sequel there
to one of the movies that he was in. And
I keep hearing that you have.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
A hat trick, You have the hat trick of the
three of you.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah, yeah, great Dodgeball two rumblings.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
There's been rumbling.
Speaker 9 (24:23):
Yeah, I think there's a script that's actually you know,
an idea that's pretty good. So you know, you're always
with all these ones, there's always the want, but you
really want the story to stand on its own, but
I do think the Dodgeball one's a pretty good idea.
I just did a movie for for Fox called Mike
Nick Nick and Alis with Marsden with James Marshen, which
is a kind of an action comedy, and so you
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never know, maybe, well, why is it Bad Monkey. I'm
going to do Bad Monkey next here, starting in September
the second season of the Apple Show, so it'll be
a little ways away if it's something that materializes.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I like the character in Bad Monkey.
Speaker 9 (25:01):
Yeah, it's a fun. Bill Lawrence is great, as you know.
I love Bill and that was fun. Good, good group.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Talking to Vince Vaughan the new Netflix film it's known
as and it comes out tomorrow, where Vince plays the
owner of an Italian restaurant and he's lost his mother
so he brings in local grandmothers and Lorraine Brocco, Renda Viccarro,
Susan Sarandon, and Talia Shire. How's your sports teams in Chicago?
Speaker 9 (25:27):
What do you think of this draft? It's it's unknowing
at this point, right. Did you like the did you
like the tight end?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Did you like?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Loved one that there in the first you did.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, yeah, theurgain. I thought that he was good.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And uh, I thought the Bears were going to be
a playoff team last year. So I'm gonna double down
and say they're going to be a playoff team this year.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
You know, as they when you look at it, they
lost a handful of games, all in heartbreak style. And
I got to share Dan, it's been a tough recruit
to get my son on board handles. So there was
a there was a pivotal moment in this experiment where
we were watching the Redskins game and the Bears were
obviously winning, with the game looking like it was in hand,
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and some desperation, and when that tip happened and the
Redskins caught the ball, you had. You had a ten
year old boy go straight to his room. He was
upset and he stayed there. So I figured, well, how
do I handle this. I'll let him kind of write
it out, so I would say good. Thirty five forty
minutes he came down and he had gathered his emotions
and his thoughts and he was prepared. He had a
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statement to say, he had something to share, and he said,
I can't trust this team.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
That's what he said to me, I cannot trust this team.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
I said, well, you're not wrong right now, I said,
but you know, it hasn't been a great run as
of late. But I said it'll be. That makes it,
you know, all the better when they get there. But
it's been a challenging recruiting process.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, but can he bail on the Bears? Would you
allow him?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Yeah? I would, I would.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
I mean he does root for a lot of the
long ageless teams, but he does for the Bears. But
I think that's right. You got to let them have
their own experience. So you know what happened. I don't
know if you experienced this. Sometimes they like to root
against if you're rooting for a team, they enjoy going
for the opposite team, even with no connection to the
team whatsoever, just to be contrary.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
And did you ever have that with your kids?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I let them pick if they wanted it.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
And my son became a Boston Red Sox fan and
a Green Bay Packer fan.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
And I didn't guide him.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
In fact, he came home he was really young and
he said, I've decided on my baseball team because we
live in an area where you're where you're a Yankee
fan or a Red Sox fan. So he says, I've
decided on my team, and you know, made a proclamation
to the family, and I go, okay, what's it going
to be?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
He goes Red Sox. I go okay. I go out
and buy him some gear. Get him a hat, that's great,
get him a jacket.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
He wears the hat to school and the Yankee fans
grabbed it, put it in the urinal and pete on it.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah. Oh, dear, Well he learned about commitment, didn't he.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Well, my wife goes.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
It wasn't. It wasn't an easy choice given the location.
You've got to respect kid.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
My my wife couldn't understand it. And I said, no, Hunt,
now you understand the rivalry, and yeah, so you know
it was all tea team.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
All that New York Boston rivalry take place after the
basketball game last night, right.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Oh my god, wild crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
But do you go to many like if you go
to New York or you go to the Lakers. Do
you go to Knicks games or Laker games?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I had I went to a Lakers game this year.
Speaker 9 (28:40):
I like what Rob Plink has done with the team,
and I like to go to the Garden.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Who doesn't.
Speaker 9 (28:45):
So, yes, I've gone to both, but I was back
and forth working quite a bit this last year.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
But I do.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
I do enjoy going to UH, I go to any
I really like going to different stadiums and going to
see different teams, and you have the time. I enjoy going.
Where's your favorite place to watch a game any sport?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Home?
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Oh? You prefer being home? You don't like it, you
can't deal with the crowds. Yeah, I get it, you
like it's the replay.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I just it's just easier for me to do my
job because I don't have the fan experience anymore.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I don't root.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Therefore, the best place for me to watch a game
and still do my job is home.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yeah. No, I get that, especially as one. Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 9 (29:31):
Is there a storyline or a team or a fan
recently that's kind of won you over and made you
a fan or that you were rooting to.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Do well just because you enjoyed the storyline.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I think the Lions. I enjoy that storyline. It's sort
of the football equivalent of the Cubs, and I think
that's the next great story. But as you know, it's
all about the story. You can have everything in place.
But you know, Spike Lee once said to me, in fact,
this was when the Red Sox came back and beat
the Yankees. He said, this is what I love about sports.
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It's unscripted. Like you can't script certain sporting events. It
just happens, and that's what makes it so magical.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Well, that's one hundred percent right.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
You have all the emotions and desires and it plays
out in that moment. That's why live sports is still
you know, the calling for everyone to gather.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
It's still very cultural. And I agree with that.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
And you know, as a Bears fan, I've been happy
to see the Lions do well, you know, the gamble,
the coach and obviously the story with golf has been
great and that whole team. It was surprising the way
it ended this year. I was not expecting that.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
If so, you were probably thirteen or fourteen when the
Bears won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I was yeah, okay, yeah, okay, So you're you're.
Speaker 9 (30:51):
Delivered that you have got Billy Simms. Highlight, by the way,
one of the great highlights with him running on the
face mask.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Of defenders he jumped him.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
Right, Remember Billy Simms. They would always cut to him,
and he sort of got traction and sort of ran
over I think a couple of players. I literally ran
on top of him. That's it's an odd reference. But
I was a big Billy Simms fan.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
But but you're you're a little older than what your
son is now. He just needs to capture that magic
that you had to make that put up with.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
All of this.
Speaker 9 (31:21):
The tragedy was when the Cubs won, which as you know,
was like no one could believe it one hundred years.
So I had taken them. I had taken them back
to Chicago for the World Series. I was I sang
at the seventh inning stretch for one of the games.
So I brought both of my kids and it was
not The impact on them was not what one would expect.
You know, they had no reference point, They had no suffering,
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and so it was like, come the sixth inning, it
could have been any game.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
They were very young, they were very tired.
Speaker 9 (31:53):
My idea of what my idea of what this experience
would be like did not translate in the moment.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Did you try?
Speaker 4 (31:59):
So they got that.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
I had a little spoil with the Blackhawks because they
definitely won some Cups when they were young, yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
So you know, but yeah, they like they do, like
the we'll go to some Kings game.
Speaker 9 (32:10):
They route for the Kings too, They like, uh he
roots for the local teams. And my daughter they they're
root for the Rams or the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
So they haven't I haven't had that.
Speaker 9 (32:19):
It's like you got that that letter of declaration for
like a college to declare, we haven't got I haven't
gotten one singular one yet.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Did you cry when the Cubs won?
Speaker 9 (32:30):
Do you know what I saw? And I was with
a bunch of people, and it was a strange feeling.
I don't know that if I cried, But it was
more of a somber release than it was a jumping
for joy. It was a you couldn't believe it, you know,
especially given what we just had gone through, you know,
the last time we were close with you know, the
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whole thing with the fan reaching for the ball, it
was like you just couldn't. Now that you're in game seven,
you were just waiting and the and the you know,
the tragedy of that. My dad's from Ohio, and the
tragedy of that is the one team you beat is
the is the Indians, who are the other team that
you would you would want to see get past that moment.
So it made it even you know, if you would
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have beaten the perennial powerhouse that always won. And don't
get me wrong, I was thrilled that we won, but
in being a Cubs fan and suffering for so long,
it wasn't lost on me that we were beating another
team with a similar legacy.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
You would have preferred the Yankees.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
I can't say it was perfect the way it happened,
but it would have been easier. I think it was
just strange, isn't it. I Mean, here's the you know, Cleveland,
which you know obviously it's just a crazy like someone's
going to break a streak. So it was it was
just a weird pairing. And now it's game seven. So yeah,
it was definitely more of a sigh of relief. Was
(33:54):
I thrilled, absolutely, but you're right it was more that
than I was, you know, kind of high fiving. It
was definitely, you know, more of a release than it
was just to you know, jump up and down.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Will I be in known as two.
Speaker 9 (34:13):
Interest Anon as too and your dance card is available
and as long as Adam knows about it, I think
it's gott to we share it with him than not.
Then I would say that if this was the old
magic eight ball, it says chances.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Are good, there's breaking news. If there isn't known as two,
I will be in it.
Speaker 9 (34:35):
Yeah, if there's a notus two, we'll definitely have you
in it. You could come to the restaurant and enjoy something.
I see that happening.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Okay, I like that, and now I don't and.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
I like that, and the other gentleman should know that.
That's healthy. That's how you do it.
Speaker 9 (34:48):
You don't bring baggage, you don't bring hurt.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
This is how this is how gentlemen moved forward with
with with class.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, we're just grown ups, that's all this is. I'm
I'm here, that thought is Yeah, it's quid pro quot.
I help you, you help me. We're buddies. Let's have
front fun, break bread. I'll reunite with surrender. But you
do it. Yeah, absolutely, good luck with it. Great to
talk to you again, Vince, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Always great to talk to you. Dan, be well, Vince Bawn.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Cavs are three point favorites against the Pacers tonight, Thunder
five point favorites at the Nuggets, the Celtics five point
favorites against the Knicks tomorrow, and the Timberwolves five point
favorites against Golden State. Longtime Knicks fan, film director, producer, screenwriter, actor, author,
two time Academy Award winner, and got a new movie
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coming out later on this fall. Well, ask about that
Highest the Lowest, starring Denzel Washington Spike Lee on the
program How's morale? How are we feeling going into tomorrow?
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Damn? First of all, good morning, how you doing?
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Good man?
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Good, good to see you.
Speaker 10 (36:09):
Uh Well, the forecast is orange and blue skies at
the world's most famous arena, matt is the Square Garden.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
You're nervous.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
No, this is gonna be the Vine intervention. Hint, hint, hint.
You know what I'm talking about with the Pope.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Yeah, the Villanova alumni.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Is this a bigger win for Villanova than or then
when Villanova won that last NCAA championship?
Speaker 10 (36:50):
WHOA All I can say is, well, people, you know,
people say we have a one seventy seven eight three season,
and it takes a miracle.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
To rick the snide.
Speaker 10 (37:03):
I was at the last rowan Che Stadium when that
ball rolled through Buttoner's So I'll take anywhere you can get.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Can anything ease the pain of what happened in four
in the Alcs for you with the Yankees and the
Red Sox.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Oh with the.
Speaker 10 (37:28):
When they camp off a hit of a great reliever? Yeah,
what's the Dodgers manager?
Speaker 6 (37:34):
He stole second base, right, Dave Roberts, Dave Robinson. I
don't know, maybe that means a bucker.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
But I remember talking to you when the Yankees were
up three to one and I was doing Sports Center, right,
and you were along the first baseline, uh seats there
in the first baseline. You go, who do you like?
I said, I like the red I don't want to
hear that. Next game, I see you, who do you like?
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I said, I like the red size. I don't want
to hear that. Then you saw me the next time
and you said, who do you like? I don't want
to hear it. You're gonna tell me the red slice
like the red size? Did you ever get over that?
Speaker 10 (38:21):
Only when people like you remind me, it's my job.
Those are memberies. You want to yeah, flush.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
You know, you know, like the Riggie Miller.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
You know that.
Speaker 10 (38:37):
You know that you try to, you try to. It
comes up though, but it's not. It's not the top
of the.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Head.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
So when did you first learn to hate the Celtics?
Speaker 10 (38:53):
It's anything I'm in New Yorker, that's that's just in kindergarten.
You and off of vice versa, you can ask that question.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
Bostonians. You know, we don't. It's this is a great robbery, Boston,
New York. Any sport.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
How was that?
Speaker 6 (39:15):
Oh? The Pages were undefeated going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 10 (39:26):
And Manningham damn.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
You know, you know you knew to answer that question.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I did. I did.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
But I think Bostonians look at the Knicks and Nick
fans and go, you guys haven't done anything. We won championships,
So maybe how many Yankees have twenty seven?
Speaker 6 (39:47):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (39:48):
So what are you saying?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Well, no, I'm just talking about the Celtics Knicks rivalry.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Oh, but it's Boston, New York. It is Boston, New York.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Have you ever talked to Rady about those Super bowls?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (40:03):
Here's Oh, I forgot what Super Bowls was but his
then wife was screaming, my husband can't throw a ball.
Cast the ball. But this past year rep the season game.
Speaker 10 (40:21):
Uh, Tom sat courtside, so the NIXT gave him a
football to sign and he would throw up into this fans.
So he says, fight, come over here. I'm gonna throw
you the ball first, and you throw it back to
me and I throw it up in the States. I'm
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five six and a half.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, you're the size of Edelmann.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
I'm small. So he must have throw his throwing the
drunk that ball.
Speaker 10 (40:52):
Said oh, well before that, before he threw the boy
did like.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
This, Oh tap to your head near your helmet. No,
David Tyree.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
Tyree, Yeah that.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
No.
Speaker 6 (41:10):
But I like to say is Tom's a great guy,
great guy, great guy.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
He's Spike Lee the movie the Highest to Lowest, starring
Denzel Washington.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
That'll be Uh. Do you have a release date on them?
Speaker 10 (41:23):
Yes, August twenty second nationwide. But also we're going to
the can Film Festival May nineteenth. So I believe in
how things supposed to be. May nineteenth, nineteen eighty nine
was the world premiere Do the Right.
Speaker 6 (41:40):
Thing in cann.
Speaker 10 (41:43):
May nineteenth twenty five will be Malcolm Mexican birthday. Dnze
On Denziel's on Broadway during Othello and the only day
Broadway is dark is on a Monday.
Speaker 6 (41:54):
And this May nineteenth is a month, is a Monday.
Will Denzil be able to come? They can, So we're
very happy about that.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
When did you know it worked? Clicked with Denzel.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
The first film Mo Better Blues?
Speaker 10 (42:11):
So in order Mo Better Blues Malcolm X, he got
Game and Inside Man. And the funny thing is that
Denzel and I both did not know Inside Man was
nineteen years ago.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
I mean time flies. I mean I didn't know. He
didn't know.
Speaker 10 (42:26):
But but our relationship is really great, and it's what
specials that we don't really hang out. We might see
each other when the Lakers in La I see I said,
when the Lakers into the garden, he comes to this Fike,
let's go.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
So but when we see it, just like we saw
each other yesterday. So that's the desa you know, relationship.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Who's the other players you considered for h he got
Game other than Ray Allen.
Speaker 10 (42:56):
Well, my brother Alan Iverson did not did not want audition.
Speaker 6 (43:06):
Rehearsal, rehearsal.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Oh no, he didn't say.
Speaker 10 (43:11):
No, I'm kidding. Hey, Ai is loved baby. You know
I love it and I love you. Uh, they were.
Here's the thing that he Got game. I was like
a talent scout because Jesus Shuttlestour is the senior Abraham
Lincoln High School in Corney Island. So I had to
look at the people, look at the players who are
going to be in the draft. Also look at the
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players in the league already but still looked like they
could play.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
They were in high school. So I made the list
and I had auditions.
Speaker 10 (43:43):
And the thing is that I needed someone who who's
gonna dedicate the whole summer. Now, you know those athletes
when it's all season, they gotta take a break whatever.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
But Ray said I'll do it. So Ray did not.
Speaker 10 (43:57):
We didn't finish the film till the day before he
had to report the camp for George Carr was on
Milwaukee buckstand.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
So he team dedicated himself for the role.
Speaker 10 (44:09):
And Uh, Garry always asked me, we're gonna have a
heat game. Two, We're gonna have a she Got Game.
But I don't think so. I mean that the film is.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
What it is and so far not done any sequels.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, we we fall in love with sequels, and I
don't know if Hollywood does as well, because hey, if
it was successful then you know, ever.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
God Father took unchallenged? What god Father too?
Speaker 3 (44:41):
What's the second best sequel? M?
Speaker 6 (44:47):
Yeah, I'm stumped. Right there, I'm stumped.
Speaker 10 (44:50):
But Francis he olds the crown for that.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
Shout out to Francis.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Did you consider Stefan Marbury for heat Got Game?
Speaker 10 (44:58):
Well, there's a big controversy and me and Stephan were cool.
You know that stuff has been squashed. I seem all
the games all the time in the garden. But somehow
people were thinking that that this he Got game was
about step on it and that's not really the case. The
reason why I chose a Lincoln High School because for
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years they had the best basketball team public school.
Speaker 6 (45:25):
And also even though I did't.
Speaker 10 (45:27):
Grew up in Corne Island, my highest food I went
to was John dou was in Corney Island. So that's
that's really you know what it was I did not want.
It was not or biographical or I made of this
character Jesus has worked, who his father has been locked
up for accidents, accidentally killing his mother.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
We had Barkley on recently and I asked him what
kind of game you had?
Speaker 3 (45:53):
He said, Spike can't play.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
Well.
Speaker 6 (45:58):
First of all, I can't play. He's never seen me
play basketball.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
So this is.
Speaker 6 (46:03):
I mean, now, back in the day softball, I go
first to third. I was, I was, I was. I
was the fastest kid in my block.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
So you were Vince Coleman going from first to third.
Jackie Robinson, Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
You know there are no great softball movies, so maybe
maybe you come out with a Softballah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 10 (46:31):
I mean, hey, you're gonna get exhibited, right.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Okay, so you do have you had some basketball game?
Speaker 10 (46:42):
I mean I'm playing a team uh in New York
City depended with softball, stoop ball to touch. I mean
it's just just playing in the street.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Did you ever play against Prince No?
Speaker 10 (46:59):
Okay, no, I'm but I heard I've people say he
could ball. He could I mean, he could play, and
also he was a great he knew the game too.
One of my best moments the NBA sat Prince not
together at in the All Star Game when it was
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in New York and we just a famous people looking
online and he has his Cane and we were just
talking basketball and.
Speaker 6 (47:28):
Having a great time.
Speaker 10 (47:29):
And I miss him.
Speaker 6 (47:31):
I missed him very much.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
I was at the NBA Finals in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Loose ball. Rodman goes forward out of bounds. Prince is
there with his bodyguard. Rodman, you know, gets the ball
and he walks over to Prince and he said, hey,
we should go out after the game. Well, Prince doesn't
acknowledge him. You have to go through the bodyguard to
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them and talks to Prince. So Rodman's like talking to him,
and Prince didn't say anything, and then the bodyguard says,
you got to you gotta go through me, and then
Rodman waved him off and then walked back on the floor.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
Well, I think that was a good decision.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
This movie with Denzel highest to lowess h so asap
Rocky's in here.
Speaker 6 (48:24):
Yeah he he could.
Speaker 10 (48:28):
It gives a magnificent performance. And this film is not
a remake. It's a reinterpretation of the great film High
and Low by the great Japanese filmmaker director A.
Speaker 6 (48:41):
Cure curs Out.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
So that was back in the sixties, mid.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
Nineteen nineteen sixty the great Tissan Muffoon who did many
many films. But curs Out is a he's executive at
a shoe factory. And in this film, Denzel Washington is
a music mogul who's notice having the best gears in
the business. So we shot this in the in the
streets of the great scenior world, Weather York for those
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six Spanish you're talking about Weather York.
Speaker 10 (49:13):
And uh, my fifth film with Denzel and it's a
blessing and uh but.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
Not nervous pairing somebody like Denzel with asap.
Speaker 6 (49:25):
No, a sap is done.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
He's not.
Speaker 10 (49:27):
He's not his first film and he he auditioned and
and then I'll just tell you he's from Harlem, so.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
He's not afraid, not afraid.
Speaker 6 (49:40):
He's from Harlem Uptown.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
I know you were just on Carmelo Anthony's podcast and
they're talking about retirings Jersey. What about Bernard King.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
Or the Knicks?
Speaker 10 (49:53):
Me right, Yeah, here's the thing. Bernard is one of
the greats. But the neighbor But Bernard grew up in
my neighborhood, Fort Green. This hospital Fort Green called Cumbona Hospital.
Bernard was born there. Albert King, Mike Tyson and Michael Jordan,
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they were all born in the hospital my neighbor Ford Green, Brooklyn. Wow, yeah, Bernard,
I mean those years, I mean it is this. I
wish they had better. I wish medicine was for long
so they were not. The operation he had his knees
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would have made him come back, and he really wasn't
physically the same.
Speaker 6 (50:42):
We came back for the love. But I don't know
why the New York Nico Bokers has not retired. Bernard
King's jersey should be hanging from the raft of the
world's most famous arena. He was a square guard.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
He was a bucket man. He was a bucket every
time Fort Hamilton High School? Yeah, yeah, uh. How would
you celebrate if the next Winter title?
Speaker 3 (51:08):
What would it? What would a title mean to you?
Speaker 10 (51:12):
Well, May nineteen seventy I was at Game seven, the
Willis Reed Game. I was thirteen years old and I
just need one before I leave this earth. And I'm
(51:33):
telling you when I read the popes, he said he's
alumni Vanilla of Villanova. I said, oh my, it's a plump,
Oh my god, oh gee, what but listen to though
(52:00):
us think a little headed. It could be a Minnesota
nick final. Got my boy dotde villing over guys.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
So this might be the year you're going to church
on Saturday.
Speaker 10 (52:16):
Well, I'm not Catholic, but I might go back to
might go to abythen church in Marlow and get on
my knees. Oh Lord Jesus give us.
Speaker 6 (52:33):
But here's the thing though. You know when the Mets
won the World Series in nineteen sixty nine, I ran.
I ran on the field in Game five.
Speaker 10 (52:44):
Like twenty thousand other crazy kids, you know game back
then those were day games, the split in Baltimore, and
I'm range three and four Shay Stadium, Queens. And my
mother said, you're going to school.
Speaker 6 (53:03):
My father said, no, he ain't. He's going to Chase Dayton.
The Mets got away. What do they call the miracle Mets.
Speaker 10 (53:11):
Yeah, so miracles have happened in sports.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
Hockey with the you know the maan.
Speaker 4 (53:20):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (53:22):
It has happened, and we are long overdue.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
Good luck on Saturday. All right, good to talk to
you very much.
Speaker 4 (53:30):
Thank you, man. Take care. All right.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
That's Spike Lee and his movie coming out in August.
Highest to Lowest with Denzel Washington asap. Rocky is also
in it as well.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Ray Allen, Hall of Famer and two time NBA champ
joining us on the program. You put up all those
numbers in Seattle. You spent five years in Seattle?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Okay, are those numbers now attached to the Oklahoma City
Thunder since the SuperSonics went to Oka?
Speaker 4 (00:22):
See?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Like, could your jersey number be retired by OKAC based
off what you did in Seattle?
Speaker 5 (00:29):
Technically I think it could be, but I think for
tradition speaking, you know, typically you raise a banner or
jersey in a place that is kind of familiar to
that city. And nobody in Oklahoma City really had ever
watched me play in that city, so I don't think.
Speaker 6 (00:50):
And it's a ownership mandate as well, so I don't
think that would ever happen.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Is there a building where your jersey is up in
the rafters in Seattle?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:04):
In Ky Arena, Okay, it would, I would say, possibly,
But it's Key Arena.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
I don't think. I don't even know they use it
for anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Okay, here's a couple of things I'm going to talk
to you about. The Celtics. Keep shooting threes the other night. Yeah,
now you had a game I think you went over
thirteen from three point range. But as a great shooter,
you're told to keep shooting. But at what point do
you stop shooting threes if you're the Celtics the other night,
or do you stop shooting threes?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Well, the other night, I think the Celtics shot sixty threes,
and they were shooting them at points when the Knicks
kept kind of plugging them away. And they're plugging away
and they're playing, they're playing tougher, they're getting tougher buckets.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
The next word.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Obviously Brussels getting so many mid range shots, so he
had a great offensive rhythm. I don't think the Celtics
ever built their rhythm offensively. Now they take a lot
of threes early and they take them throughout the game
and when they're going because you got multiple guys that
shoot threes and shoot them well. But if you never
build a rhythm, you know, get into the basket, getting
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to the free throw line, to the mid range game.
That's kind of where there was a hole in that
game for the Celtics other night. So to answer your question,
they got to figure out getting some easy buckets, you know,
just kind of establishing rhythm as opposed to just kind
of let the fly consistent. Because it's the playoffs, it
changes a lot because now those shots become smaller opportunities
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and they're shooting quicker, and it's important for them to
try to figure out a way to get some rhythm
stuff start in the game.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Early.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, I just thought, you know, go inside, get fouled,
go to the free throw line, get like, let's break
up all this and just get something there. That's what
was surprising. But the analytics say, I think to keep
shoot the threes, don't.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
They well, obviously, because threes are more than two's and
that's what everybody says. You keep shooting them, and they've
been highly successful at it.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
So it's hard.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
To stop what you've been doing and what's made you
successful this whole year. But you have to take into
account that the game does slow down a little bit
more in the playoffs, and you're putting so much pressure
on Tatum. He makes a lot of tough threes. Jalen
went to the basket and got a layup at one
(03:29):
point during that fourth quarter, and I was like, Okay,
that's steady. The offense a little bit, and you see
them and you want them to drive because you look
at the Knicks defense. You know there's a lot of
holes in their defense if you just drive. There's a
couple of times where even Derek White had the ball
in the paint and he the basket was behind them
and he's looking out towards the Berman as supposed to
(03:49):
just turn around and get something easy, and it is hopefully.
You know, they'll look at the film and you know,
I'm sure Missoula will say, these are just shots.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
That we missed.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
You know, we're all capable of making these shots. But
to make it easier on yourself, you know, it's hard
in a playoff situation because you know you could make
those shots. So I just think to start the game tonight,
they had to make sure that they get to the
free throw line early and establish something in the paint
from the standpoint of driving and getting some easy stuff.
(04:19):
Because as a shooter, I'll tell you I did not
want to start a game shooting at three because if
you miss, then you start pressing, and then you start pressing.
I didn't want to have to feel like I was pressing.
In Boston, we had so many good players that score,
so I want to make sure I got to the
basket early if I could.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Talking to Ray Allen, former three point Shooting Contest winner
back in two thousand and one, do you practice missing
free throws? We saw that with Tyrese Halliburton, because you
know he's got to miss the free throw, but you
got to miss it correctly to get a chance. Do
you practice missing free throws?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Well, I mean it sounds funny, but you know how
to miss h and it's just kind of being off
and obviously you're looking to who your best rebounder is
on what side. So yeah, there is some precision to
being able to miss a free throw.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
I can't say that I practiced it, Uh, but I
definitely know how to aim up there and get it
to bounce on one side or the other.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, you did practice making them, though. You did a
really good job at that.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I did. I did.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
I was pretty good at it.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, but I never understood that.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Explain to me what happens when guys go to the
free throw line and all of a sudden, they they
free You know, they they're it's not fluid. They like
everything slows, you know, it stops maybe that's what it is.
Guys you used to moving, all of a sudden it stops.
But the mind games that go on with these guys
who can't shoot free.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Throws, well, it's simpler when you think about golf. When
you stand to the t box and they call your
name and they say where you're from exactly, and all
of a sudden they everybody's quiet. I was like, keep
making noise uncomfortable to know, you know, don't be quiet.
I think what people and I say this a lot
with free throws. People don't understand how emotional a free
(06:09):
throw is. You know, when you think about a guy
going to the free throw line, and emotions don't always
mean anger, but your your adrenaline is pumping. You just
got knocked on your butt. You know you're either down
to or you're up to. You just dunked on somebody.
All these emotions are inside of you, and for most players,
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imagine a situation in practice where you practice those emotions.
It's hard to practice feeling competitive, to practice feeling angry,
to practice feeling anxious, practice feeling desperate. How do you
do that in the gym by yourself? And so you
have to figure out a way when you practice to
take that that quiet gym and make yourself tired, make
(06:53):
yourself mad, make yourself excited, because that feeling you have
to get used to in a game and a lot
of time. Then when they get into a game situation,
it's a foreign situation for them when they go to
that free throw line, because think about you take somebody
life like Pritchard. You know, Gray Shooter had a great year,
but how often is he at the free throw line
(07:16):
in the fourth quarter if it's not Tatum or Brown?
So now he goes to the free throw line because
it gets out is Sometimes it's a foreign circumstance or
situation for a lot of players, and that's why you
do get nervous because it's like, I'm not used to this,
and I gotta get used to.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
I got to I gotta be better at figuring out
the situation.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
One thing that drives me crazy, and I'm sure I
drive my audience crazy because I bring it up all
the time. I never want the best player to beat me. Never.
I'm always going to send another guy. I got to
get the ball out of your hands. I want somebody
who's not used to taking that shot. And if that
guy beats me. I live with that. It's like, you know,
when Jordan beats Brian Russell, they don't send another guy
(07:59):
and guy got it get the ball out of his hands, right, Like,
I don't help me understand that. If Jalen Brunson has
the ball, I'm gonna double I'm gonna get the ball
out of his hands.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I have to do that. But why don't more coaches
do that?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Well?
Speaker 5 (08:14):
I think it's a double airt sword because when you
want you don't want the best player to beat you.
There's some scenarios, some playoff situations you kind of walk
into and you say, he's gonna get his forty, but
we can't let these other guys get off, you know.
So it is each situation from from series to series.
(08:36):
You know, what are you dealing with? Like if you
look at Indiana, you got Nessmith that had twenty three,
and Turner had twenty three and nim Hard had thirteen.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And this is the last shot though, this is the
last shot. That's all I'm talking about. Even Halliburton has
the ball, that's the guy I know who wants the ball.
I have to send another guy his way. I'm not
gonna let him beat me and they gave him. You know,
he created space. It was a tough shot though, but
he but he's only he's got single coverage on it.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Yeah, I mean it's always we can be perfect defensively
as a as a scheme, you know, going to the game,
but we always say good offense, better defense, or good
defense better offense.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
I'm sorry, We're.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Playing a scheme a certain way and then a guy
makes a tough shot over the top of us. We
have to shake their head because this league is fulled
filled with great offensive players, so they can, like I said,
it can go either way. You know, we'll run to
at a guy because he got hot. Saif a guy
has forty plus, you know, I don't know. Halliburton only
(09:42):
had nineteen points last night, so it wasn't like he
was cooking.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
But he's a closer.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah, But you just.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Kind of you live with those odds because if you
look at defenses and you look at all these playoff games,
the one thing that you find fascinating is there's there's
no paint presence. Last night, I don't know who, I
don't remember. It was Draymond Green. He came straight down
the lane and dunked it, and there was no awareness.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
From Minnesota whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
And that's the one thing in playoff basketball that you
kind of you know, you fortify your defense with a
paint presence and you work from inside out. And you
see that consistently because you know so many teams are
shooting threes. And then you look at the ball the
way the ball bounced, you know, against against with the
Golden State, and you see how many rebounds they got.
(10:34):
In Minnesota's the bigger team, you know, you think about
how many rebounds they didn't get. Go Bear had eleven
and I think Anthony had fourteen or somewhere around there.
But those balls are bounding so long, so spreading the
defense out, and then you're trying to figure out what
we try to do. On most teams I played on,
we tried to keep our big guy in the paint.
(10:54):
You know, we rotated with playing man the man, so
if it was myself and KG, I tried to stay
up top and he stayed low so if somebody did drive,
they had to see him. And right now you just
don't see that that fortification of the painting. There's so
many holes right now in their defense. So that's ultimately
a system where it's built around team shooting threes.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
What's your favorite pair of shoes behind you?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
My favorite pair, I would have to go up. I'd
have to go up one, two, three, four. If I
can show you.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Oh my goodness, you got a whole wall, this one
right here?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Okay, number four? So those are how many of those
are air Jordan's.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
They're one through thirty, one through thirty.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
You might sign any shoes that you have.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
No, you wouldn't ask him. I have it, like I
have a jersey he is hanging on my wall and
I played golf with him regularly. I wouldn't ask them,
but I think at some point I should here in
the future, just just for keepsake, just having momentum. And
I know he would if I asked him. But but
(12:10):
I thought about it, but I haven't done it yet.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Okay, But if you have them in the back of
the golf cart and then you know Mike probably sees them,
and then you go, oh god, yeah, sorry, I thought
I was going to leave these in the car. Uh,
And then you have a sharpie attached to it. Then
all of a sudden, see that I'm a vet right here.
(12:33):
DP that's like the rookie move to do that. If
somebody did that to me, I'd be looking at I'm like,
really really do Okay, left it with the sharpie on
the on taped up to it. Okay, what if you
send somebody you guys, guys used to do this where
you'd send the clubhouse guy over to get something signed
(12:54):
by somebody in the other locker room.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Right, okay, did that?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Did it?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I'll tell you a story. One time when I was
playing in Milwaukee. I was always early and the bus
wasn't there yet, so I took the cab over and
I'm sitting in the locker room. So our equipment manager
didn't get our gear out yet. So I'm sitting in
the locker room and I'm antsy trying to get on
the court. And you know, the United senter was always freezing,
so you wanted to come like bundled. So I'm sitting
(13:21):
there and the equipment guy from the Bulls comes to
the locker room. He goes, you guys didn't get here yet.
I said, no, they're not here. I'm just waiting on him.
He goes, Mike's on the other side. You know, he
has some stuff. Maybe you want to ask him. And
I was like really, and He's like, yeah, but you
got to ask him. You got to go in there
and ask him. And you know, this was probably like
three years in the league. And I'm like, ask, go
over there and ask. I was like, can you ask
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for me? He goes, no, you got to ask me.
And so I went in there and I was like, Mike,
you think I could borrow a pair of shoes And
I'm already wearing the shoes anyway, I'm under contract.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
And He's like, sure, kid, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
And in the hall, I walked in the cabinet full
of Jordan's just like all the way down and there are.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Where are those shoes?
Speaker 6 (14:05):
I don't know, there's somewhere floating. I got so many
shoes like tucked everywhere.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
We brought this up yesterday.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
The Hall of very Good, like the guys that you
played against or with, like Jamal Crawford in the Hall
of very Good. Not a Hall of Famer, but you
know hall of very good. Who would you put in there?
Maybe you played against, you know, contemporaries where you go.
That guy should be in the Hall of very Good.
Not a Hall of Famer, but Hall of very good
(14:31):
uh that.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
I played with.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
I would definitely say two players that just you know,
one in particular that would kill the game today is
Then Baker.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Okay, he just he was around the basket.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
I didn't think anybody could stop him, and he still
could shoot, you know, in the from he would be
really good in today's game. And obviously, you know, these
are two guys that I played with my rookie year
in Glenn Robinson and you know, arguably one of the
greatest college players of all time.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
And I think they don't get their their uh their credit,
but they.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Were incredible scores and and when I watched then nobody
could stop them, you know. So they were good and
they just ended up not being on teams once they
left the walk people, but they had any any symblus
of success. But I thought they were incredible and and
so you look at the game today, we don't have
those you know, you talk about those mid range players,
(15:29):
those pick great pick and roll players. Uh, think about
Terrell Brandon. He was dubbed best point guard in the world.
Sports illustrated like this he was he was split a
pick and roll. His mid range game he was automatic,
and I learned a lot from him. You know, just
playing with those three guys helped my game tremendously.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
And we don't have that that skill level right now
in the NBA because of the overuse of the three ball.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, I still keep I can't get it out of
my mind that you're wearing Michael Jordan's shoes playing against
Michael Jordan.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Well, just remember my second game in the NBA. My
first game was Minnesota Timberwolves a preseason and the second
one and I seen the schedule. So I was still
in my college apartment when I got the schedule in
October fifteenth, nineteen ninety three, Chicago Bulls United Center, and
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I'm sitting there. I still got poster him on my
wall right here in my room, and I'm like, I'm
about to play against Michael Jordan. So I'm wearing his
shoes on October fifteen. I'm stretching and then I hear
the whole introduction, and you know, I'm used to being
on the other side looking at the TV watching all
this stuff happen, and now I'm like, wow, this is
(16:48):
so crazy. I'm inside the TV right now. And then
I'm sitting here on the ground, stretching and I'm doing
this and I'm just kind of and I see the
bulls run out and he's the last one, and I
couldn't believe it, you know, just as much as I've
watched him and kind of like study this game and
he's kind of he was such a big role model,
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and then being on the same floor with him, it
was just unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Did he talk trash dude?
Speaker 5 (17:14):
No, But at jump Bald he walks over to me
and he said, welcome to the NBA. Ray, like, you
just don't understand, like this man he's you know, to
be great, you also have to be intelligent. You know,
you can't walk around and be oblivious.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
To the things around you.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
So he knows everybody who's playing against you, study your opponents,
you watch the draft. You know who's young and come
into the league. And so as us young players, we're
so naive to that idea. You start to realize how
much you have to immerse yourself in this game and
you have to know every player in the league. You
can't just think that, oh, I'm the best player, I
don't care about anybody. You really have to study this
(17:56):
game and who's in it.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
What's on your shirt, Jesus shooting a jumper.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
That's not Jesus Shuttlesworth, that's Jesus. I don't know about
Jesus form though.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Ray, Yeah, this one a we got. We'll work with him.
We'll give him a pass. We definitely will give him
a pass.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Thank you, Ray, Good to talk to you again. That's righting.
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Speaker 2 (19:34):
Vince Vaughn actor, producer, director, writer, comedian new Netflix film
Nona's and It'll come out tomorrow on Netflix. So he
plays a guy who opens up an Italian restaurant and
features local grandmothers. He just lost his mother and he
brings them in. So you got Lorraine Broco, Rendo Vicaro,
(19:56):
Susan Sarandon, Talia Shire, they play the nonahs, and you
got Vince Vaughn who's running the restaurant. Vince joins us
on the program, ho'd you decide on this or come
across this idea?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
How you doing?
Speaker 9 (20:10):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Good to be with you?
Speaker 9 (20:12):
You know I got the script that the director Stephen
Schabowski directed that movie Wonder, which I really liked, And
when I saw the script and read it and knew
it was based on a true story, I just thought
it was very unique. You know, this guy opens a
restaurant for these older women that have been a little
forgotten or maybe not given as much opportunities to be productive,
(20:33):
and he was mourning the loss of his own family members,
so in a way, he was trying to create family connection.
And I thought the story was just very moving, and
the meeting the guy he was so refreshing because it
was really about giving these known as this opportunity. More
than he had a business plan, more than he was
looking to expand it. He was really just sort of
(20:54):
looking to create great nights, great atmospheres in this restaurant.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I'm guessing laughs, but I'm gas seeing maybe some tears
in this.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
You're not wrong, as.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
Always, Patrick, you're right there near the bullseye.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Do you try.
Speaker 9 (21:09):
Yeah, there's definitely some comedy in it, but but it's
a it's you know, it's it's it's it's a feel good,
I would say, But it definitely deals with with sort
of you.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Know, mourning, all right, but you know you're gonna provide
it'll be lighthearted as well. I just want to make
sure that you know, I'm prepared for this. I want
to go in knowing kind of what the parameters are emotionally.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Yeah, you know, there's definitely some laughs.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
The actresses are phenomenal, the all the the great actors
that you that you mentioned are terrific, and they all
really shine in the movie. And the double has got
good chemistry. It's fun the movie. You know, this director
is very good. Did you see wonder I did not? Yeah,
well you got one on the list. There's a few,
and now you got another one, all right, and he's
very good.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
He's very good.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I I was in a movie with Susan Sarandon.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
That's that's correct.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Did you know it's very nice?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
She's a lovely lady. Did you a very lovely lady?
I know she is, but did you know I was,
like I'd like say, co starred. But I was in
a movie with Susan Sarandon?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Which which which movie?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
That's my boy? Did you see it?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Is that am with Sandler?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Fantastic.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I was so good. You probably didn't know it was me.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
But you're dazzled a few times. Well you dazzled a
few times.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I know, how do you How do friends politely ask
you to be in a movie?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
There is there an approach.
Speaker 9 (22:37):
I mean I have had that happen to me where
people it's it's challenging, but it depends.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
You know, most people. Sometimes people are.
Speaker 9 (22:44):
Just like looking to get their movie made, and so
they're just sort of like in this mode where they're
kind of just going for I mean, if it's a
very close friend, obviously I'll take it seriously. But if
it's kind of an acquaintance, it's an awkward experience. I'm
sure you get that in versions of that as well.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I do.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
And I've tried to reach out to Will Ferrell, and
I don't know how to do it, to say I
kind of like to be in a movie. So I
basically called him out on radio, but I haven't I've
got radio silence here from him. I haven't heard back
from Oh, it didn't go well, it did not go well.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
It didn't go well. Well.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
You know what I think it bow that it's out
there can only get better from heal. The healing is
going to start because you've addressed it.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Well.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
He did say that I belonged to Sandler, and I said, look,
I'm willing to see other feelings. I'm willing to see
other people. You know, behind Sandler's back, that's hurt feelings.
Speaker 9 (23:38):
He was carrying his own conversation you weren't aware of,
and that makes sense. Then maybe he felt maybe he
felt a little shudened. So I think sunlight is always
a great remedy. So I don't think there's anything bad
that can come out of this conversation between two friends.
And I wouldn't be shocked to see you and him
doing something and maybe Adam in it as well.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Well.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I did say to Sandler, a, you know, maybe get
Will Ferrell in a movie. Then therefore I can then
be around Will again and then I can pitch something.
But you know, maybe maybe maybe there's a sequel there
to one of the movies that he was in. And
I keep hearing that you have.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
A hat trick, You have the hat trick of the
three of you.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah, yeah, great Dodgeball two rumblings.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
There's been rumbling.
Speaker 9 (24:23):
Yeah, I think there's a script that's actually you know,
an idea that's pretty good. So you know, you're always
with all these ones, there's always the want, but you
really want the story to stand on its own, but
I do think the Dodgeball one's a pretty good idea.
I just did a movie for for Fox called Mike
Nick Nick and Alis with Marsden with James Marshen, which
is a kind of an action comedy, and so you
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never know, maybe, well, why is it Bad Monkey. I'm
going to do Bad Monkey next here, starting in September
the second season of the Apple Show, so it'll be
a little ways away if it's something that materializes.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I like the character in Bad Monkey.
Speaker 9 (25:01):
Yeah, it's a fun. Bill Lawrence is great, as you know.
I love Bill and that was fun. Good, good group.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Talking to Vince Vaughan the new Netflix film it's known
as and it comes out tomorrow, where Vince plays the
owner of an Italian restaurant and he's lost his mother
so he brings in local grandmothers and Lorraine Brocco, Renda Viccarro,
Susan Sarandon, and Talia Shire. How's your sports teams in Chicago?
Speaker 9 (25:27):
What do you think of this draft? It's it's unknowing
at this point, right. Did you like the did you
like the tight end?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Did you like?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Loved one that there in the first you did.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, yeah, theurgain. I thought that he was good.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And uh, I thought the Bears were going to be
a playoff team last year. So I'm gonna double down
and say they're going to be a playoff team this year.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
You know, as they when you look at it, they
lost a handful of games, all in heartbreak style. And
I got to share Dan, it's been a tough recruit
to get my son on board handles. So there was
a there was a pivotal moment in this experiment where
we were watching the Redskins game and the Bears were
obviously winning, with the game looking like it was in hand,
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and some desperation, and when that tip happened and the
Redskins caught the ball, you had. You had a ten
year old boy go straight to his room. He was
upset and he stayed there. So I figured, well, how
do I handle this. I'll let him kind of write
it out, so I would say good. Thirty five forty
minutes he came down and he had gathered his emotions
and his thoughts and he was prepared. He had a
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statement to say, he had something to share, and he said,
I can't trust this team.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
That's what he said to me, I cannot trust this team.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
I said, well, you're not wrong right now, I said,
but you know, it hasn't been a great run as
of late. But I said it'll be. That makes it,
you know, all the better when they get there. But
it's been a challenging recruiting process.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, but can he bail on the Bears? Would you
allow him?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Yeah? I would, I would.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
I mean he does root for a lot of the
long ageless teams, but he does for the Bears. But
I think that's right. You got to let them have
their own experience. So you know what happened. I don't
know if you experienced this. Sometimes they like to root
against if you're rooting for a team, they enjoy going
for the opposite team, even with no connection to the
team whatsoever, just to be contrary.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
And did you ever have that with your kids?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I let them pick if they wanted it.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
And my son became a Boston Red Sox fan and
a Green Bay Packer fan.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
And I didn't guide him.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
In fact, he came home he was really young and
he said, I've decided on my baseball team because we
live in an area where you're where you're a Yankee
fan or a Red Sox fan. So he says, I've
decided on my team, and you know, made a proclamation
to the family, and I go, okay, what's it going
to be?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
He goes Red Sox. I go okay. I go out
and buy him some gear. Get him a hat, that's great,
get him a jacket.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
He wears the hat to school and the Yankee fans
grabbed it, put it in the urinal and pete on it.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah. Oh, dear, Well he learned about commitment, didn't he.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Well, my wife goes.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
It wasn't. It wasn't an easy choice given the location.
You've got to respect kid.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
My my wife couldn't understand it. And I said, no, Hunt,
now you understand the rivalry, and yeah, so you know
it was all tea team.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
All that New York Boston rivalry take place after the
basketball game last night, right.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Oh my god, wild crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
But do you go to many like if you go
to New York or you go to the Lakers. Do
you go to Knicks games or Laker games?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I had I went to a Lakers game this year.
Speaker 9 (28:40):
I like what Rob Plink has done with the team,
and I like to go to the Garden.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Who doesn't.
Speaker 9 (28:45):
So, yes, I've gone to both, but I was back
and forth working quite a bit this last year.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
But I do.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
I do enjoy going to UH, I go to any
I really like going to different stadiums and going to
see different teams, and you have the time. I enjoy going.
Where's your favorite place to watch a game any sport?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Home?
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Oh? You prefer being home? You don't like it, you
can't deal with the crowds. Yeah, I get it, you
like it's the replay.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I just it's just easier for me to do my
job because I don't have the fan experience anymore.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I don't root.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Therefore, the best place for me to watch a game
and still do my job is home.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yeah. No, I get that, especially as one. Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 9 (29:31):
Is there a storyline or a team or a fan
recently that's kind of won you over and made you
a fan or that you were rooting to.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Do well just because you enjoyed the storyline.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I think the Lions. I enjoy that storyline. It's sort
of the football equivalent of the Cubs, and I think
that's the next great story. But as you know, it's
all about the story. You can have everything in place.
But you know, Spike Lee once said to me, in fact,
this was when the Red Sox came back and beat
the Yankees. He said, this is what I love about sports.
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It's unscripted. Like you can't script certain sporting events. It
just happens, and that's what makes it so magical.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Well, that's one hundred percent right.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
You have all the emotions and desires and it plays
out in that moment. That's why live sports is still
you know, the calling for everyone to gather.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
It's still very cultural. And I agree with that.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
And you know, as a Bears fan, I've been happy
to see the Lions do well, you know, the gamble,
the coach and obviously the story with golf has been
great and that whole team. It was surprising the way
it ended this year. I was not expecting that.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
If so, you were probably thirteen or fourteen when the
Bears won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I was yeah, okay, yeah, okay, So you're you're.
Speaker 9 (30:51):
Delivered that you have got Billy Simms. Highlight, by the way,
one of the great highlights with him running on the
face mask.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Of defenders he jumped him.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
Right, Remember Billy Simms. They would always cut to him,
and he sort of got traction and sort of ran
over I think a couple of players. I literally ran
on top of him. That's it's an odd reference. But
I was a big Billy Simms fan.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
But but you're you're a little older than what your
son is now. He just needs to capture that magic
that you had to make that put up with.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
All of this.
Speaker 9 (31:21):
The tragedy was when the Cubs won, which as you know,
was like no one could believe it one hundred years.
So I had taken them. I had taken them back
to Chicago for the World Series. I was I sang
at the seventh inning stretch for one of the games.
So I brought both of my kids and it was
not The impact on them was not what one would expect.
You know, they had no reference point, They had no suffering,
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and so it was like, come the sixth inning, it
could have been any game.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
They were very young, they were very tired.
Speaker 9 (31:53):
My idea of what my idea of what this experience
would be like did not translate in the moment.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Did you try?
Speaker 4 (31:59):
So they got that.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
I had a little spoil with the Blackhawks because they
definitely won some Cups when they were young, yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
So you know, but yeah, they like they do, like
the we'll go to some Kings game.
Speaker 9 (32:10):
They route for the Kings too, They like, uh he
roots for the local teams. And my daughter they they're
root for the Rams or the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
So they haven't I haven't had that.
Speaker 9 (32:19):
It's like you got that that letter of declaration for
like a college to declare, we haven't got I haven't
gotten one singular one yet.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Did you cry when the Cubs won?
Speaker 9 (32:30):
Do you know what I saw? And I was with
a bunch of people, and it was a strange feeling.
I don't know that if I cried, But it was
more of a somber release than it was a jumping
for joy. It was a you couldn't believe it, you know,
especially given what we just had gone through, you know,
the last time we were close with you know, the
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whole thing with the fan reaching for the ball, it
was like you just couldn't. Now that you're in game seven,
you were just waiting and the and the you know,
the tragedy of that. My dad's from Ohio, and the
tragedy of that is the one team you beat is
the is the Indians, who are the other team that
you would you would want to see get past that moment.
So it made it even you know, if you would
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have beaten the perennial powerhouse that always won. And don't
get me wrong, I was thrilled that we won, but
in being a Cubs fan and suffering for so long,
it wasn't lost on me that we were beating another
team with a similar legacy.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
You would have preferred the Yankees.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
I can't say it was perfect the way it happened,
but it would have been easier. I think it was
just strange, isn't it. I Mean, here's the you know, Cleveland,
which you know obviously it's just a crazy like someone's
going to break a streak. So it was it was
just a weird pairing. And now it's game seven. So yeah,
it was definitely more of a sigh of relief. Was
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I thrilled, absolutely, but you're right it was more that
than I was, you know, kind of high fiving. It
was definitely, you know, more of a release than it
was just to you know, jump up and down.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Will I be in known as two.
Speaker 9 (34:13):
Interest Anon as too and your dance card is available
and as long as Adam knows about it, I think
it's gott to we share it with him than not.
Then I would say that if this was the old
magic eight ball, it says chances.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Are good, there's breaking news. If there isn't known as two,
I will be in it.
Speaker 9 (34:35):
Yeah, if there's a notus two, we'll definitely have you
in it. You could come to the restaurant and enjoy something.
I see that happening.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Okay, I like that, and now I don't and.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
I like that, and the other gentleman should know that.
That's healthy. That's how you do it.
Speaker 9 (34:48):
You don't bring baggage, you don't bring hurt.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
This is how this is how gentlemen moved forward with
with with class.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, we're just grown ups, that's all this is. I'm
I'm here, that thought is Yeah, it's quid pro quot.
I help you, you help me. We're buddies. Let's have
front fun, break bread. I'll reunite with surrender. But you
do it. Yeah, absolutely, good luck with it. Great to
talk to you again, Vince, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Always great to talk to you. Dan, be well, Vince Bawn.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Cavs are three point favorites against the Pacers tonight, Thunder
five point favorites at the Nuggets, the Celtics five point
favorites against the Knicks tomorrow, and the Timberwolves five point
favorites against Golden State. Longtime Knicks fan, film director, producer, screenwriter, actor, author,
two time Academy Award winner, and got a new movie
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coming out later on this fall. Well, ask about that
Highest the Lowest, starring Denzel Washington Spike Lee on the
program How's morale? How are we feeling going into tomorrow?
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Damn? First of all, good morning, how you doing?
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Good man?
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Good, good to see you.
Speaker 10 (36:09):
Uh Well, the forecast is orange and blue skies at
the world's most famous arena, matt is the Square Garden.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
You're nervous.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
No, this is gonna be the Vine intervention. Hint, hint, hint.
You know what I'm talking about with the Pope.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Yeah, the Villanova alumni.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Is this a bigger win for Villanova than or then
when Villanova won that last NCAA championship?
Speaker 10 (36:50):
WHOA All I can say is, well, people, you know,
people say we have a one seventy seven eight three season,
and it takes a miracle.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
To rick the snide.
Speaker 10 (37:03):
I was at the last rowan Che Stadium when that
ball rolled through Buttoner's So I'll take anywhere you can get.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Can anything ease the pain of what happened in four
in the Alcs for you with the Yankees and the
Red Sox.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Oh with the.
Speaker 10 (37:28):
When they camp off a hit of a great reliever? Yeah,
what's the Dodgers manager?
Speaker 6 (37:34):
He stole second base, right, Dave Roberts, Dave Robinson. I
don't know, maybe that means a bucker.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
But I remember talking to you when the Yankees were
up three to one and I was doing Sports Center, right,
and you were along the first baseline, uh seats there
in the first baseline. You go, who do you like?
I said, I like the red I don't want to
hear that. Next game, I see you, who do you like?
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I said, I like the red size. I don't want
to hear that. Then you saw me the next time
and you said, who do you like? I don't want
to hear it. You're gonna tell me the red slice
like the red size? Did you ever get over that?
Speaker 10 (38:21):
Only when people like you remind me, it's my job.
Those are memberies. You want to yeah, flush.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
You know, you know, like the Riggie Miller.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
You know that.
Speaker 10 (38:37):
You know that you try to, you try to. It
comes up though, but it's not. It's not the top
of the.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Head.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
So when did you first learn to hate the Celtics?
Speaker 10 (38:53):
It's anything I'm in New Yorker, that's that's just in kindergarten.
You and off of vice versa, you can ask that question.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
Bostonians. You know, we don't. It's this is a great robbery, Boston,
New York. Any sport.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
How was that?
Speaker 6 (39:15):
Oh? The Pages were undefeated going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 10 (39:26):
And Manningham damn.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
You know, you know you knew to answer that question.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I did. I did.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
But I think Bostonians look at the Knicks and Nick
fans and go, you guys haven't done anything. We won championships,
So maybe how many Yankees have twenty seven?
Speaker 6 (39:47):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (39:48):
So what are you saying?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Well, no, I'm just talking about the Celtics Knicks rivalry.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Oh, but it's Boston, New York. It is Boston, New York.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Have you ever talked to Rady about those Super bowls?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (40:03):
Here's Oh, I forgot what Super Bowls was but his
then wife was screaming, my husband can't throw a ball.
Cast the ball. But this past year rep the season game.
Speaker 10 (40:21):
Uh, Tom sat courtside, so the NIXT gave him a
football to sign and he would throw up into this fans.
So he says, fight, come over here. I'm gonna throw
you the ball first, and you throw it back to
me and I throw it up in the States. I'm
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five six and a half.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, you're the size of Edelmann.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
I'm small. So he must have throw his throwing the
drunk that ball.
Speaker 10 (40:52):
Said oh, well before that, before he threw the boy
did like.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
This, Oh tap to your head near your helmet. No,
David Tyree.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
Tyree, Yeah that.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
No.
Speaker 6 (41:10):
But I like to say is Tom's a great guy,
great guy, great guy.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
He's Spike Lee the movie the Highest to Lowest, starring
Denzel Washington.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
That'll be Uh. Do you have a release date on them?
Speaker 10 (41:23):
Yes, August twenty second nationwide. But also we're going to
the can Film Festival May nineteenth. So I believe in
how things supposed to be. May nineteenth, nineteen eighty nine
was the world premiere Do the Right.
Speaker 6 (41:40):
Thing in cann.
Speaker 10 (41:43):
May nineteenth twenty five will be Malcolm Mexican birthday. Dnze
On Denziel's on Broadway during Othello and the only day
Broadway is dark is on a Monday.
Speaker 6 (41:54):
And this May nineteenth is a month, is a Monday.
Will Denzil be able to come? They can, So we're
very happy about that.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
When did you know it worked? Clicked with Denzel.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
The first film Mo Better Blues?
Speaker 10 (42:11):
So in order Mo Better Blues Malcolm X, he got
Game and Inside Man. And the funny thing is that
Denzel and I both did not know Inside Man was
nineteen years ago.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
I mean time flies. I mean I didn't know. He
didn't know.
Speaker 10 (42:26):
But but our relationship is really great, and it's what
specials that we don't really hang out. We might see
each other when the Lakers in La I see I said,
when the Lakers into the garden, he comes to this Fike,
let's go.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
So but when we see it, just like we saw
each other yesterday. So that's the desa you know, relationship.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Who's the other players you considered for h he got
Game other than Ray Allen.
Speaker 10 (42:56):
Well, my brother Alan Iverson did not did not want audition.
Speaker 6 (43:06):
Rehearsal, rehearsal.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Oh no, he didn't say.
Speaker 10 (43:11):
No, I'm kidding. Hey, Ai is loved baby. You know
I love it and I love you. Uh, they were.
Here's the thing that he Got game. I was like
a talent scout because Jesus Shuttlestour is the senior Abraham
Lincoln High School in Corney Island. So I had to
look at the people, look at the players who are
going to be in the draft. Also look at the
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players in the league already but still looked like they
could play.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
They were in high school. So I made the list
and I had auditions.
Speaker 10 (43:43):
And the thing is that I needed someone who who's
gonna dedicate the whole summer. Now, you know those athletes
when it's all season, they gotta take a break whatever.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
But Ray said I'll do it. So Ray did not.
Speaker 10 (43:57):
We didn't finish the film till the day before he
had to report the camp for George Carr was on
Milwaukee buckstand.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
So he team dedicated himself for the role.
Speaker 10 (44:09):
And Uh, Garry always asked me, we're gonna have a
heat game. Two, We're gonna have a she Got Game.
But I don't think so. I mean that the film is.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
What it is and so far not done any sequels.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, we we fall in love with sequels, and I
don't know if Hollywood does as well, because hey, if
it was successful then you know, ever.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
God Father took unchallenged? What god Father too?
Speaker 3 (44:41):
What's the second best sequel? M?
Speaker 6 (44:47):
Yeah, I'm stumped. Right there, I'm stumped.
Speaker 10 (44:50):
But Francis he olds the crown for that.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
Shout out to Francis.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Did you consider Stefan Marbury for heat Got Game?
Speaker 10 (44:58):
Well, there's a big controversy and me and Stephan were cool.
You know that stuff has been squashed. I seem all
the games all the time in the garden. But somehow
people were thinking that that this he Got game was
about step on it and that's not really the case. The
reason why I chose a Lincoln High School because for
(45:21):
years they had the best basketball team public school.
Speaker 6 (45:25):
And also even though I did't.
Speaker 10 (45:27):
Grew up in Corne Island, my highest food I went
to was John dou was in Corney Island. So that's
that's really you know what it was I did not want.
It was not or biographical or I made of this
character Jesus has worked, who his father has been locked
up for accidents, accidentally killing his mother.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
We had Barkley on recently and I asked him what
kind of game you had?
Speaker 3 (45:53):
He said, Spike can't play.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
Well.
Speaker 6 (45:58):
First of all, I can't play. He's never seen me
play basketball.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
So this is.
Speaker 6 (46:03):
I mean, now, back in the day softball, I go
first to third. I was, I was, I was. I
was the fastest kid in my block.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
So you were Vince Coleman going from first to third.
Jackie Robinson, Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
You know there are no great softball movies, so maybe
maybe you come out with a Softballah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 10 (46:31):
I mean, hey, you're gonna get exhibited, right.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Okay, so you do have you had some basketball game?
Speaker 10 (46:42):
I mean I'm playing a team uh in New York
City depended with softball, stoop ball to touch. I mean
it's just just playing in the street.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Did you ever play against Prince No?
Speaker 10 (46:59):
Okay, no, I'm but I heard I've people say he
could ball. He could I mean, he could play, and
also he was a great he knew the game too.
One of my best moments the NBA sat Prince not
together at in the All Star Game when it was
(47:20):
in New York and we just a famous people looking
online and he has his Cane and we were just
talking basketball and.
Speaker 6 (47:28):
Having a great time.
Speaker 10 (47:29):
And I miss him.
Speaker 6 (47:31):
I missed him very much.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
I was at the NBA Finals in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Loose ball. Rodman goes forward out of bounds. Prince is
there with his bodyguard. Rodman, you know, gets the ball
and he walks over to Prince and he said, hey,
we should go out after the game. Well, Prince doesn't
acknowledge him. You have to go through the bodyguard to
(47:56):
them and talks to Prince. So Rodman's like talking to him,
and Prince didn't say anything, and then the bodyguard says,
you got to you gotta go through me, and then
Rodman waved him off and then walked back on the floor.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
Well, I think that was a good decision.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
This movie with Denzel highest to lowess h so asap
Rocky's in here.
Speaker 6 (48:24):
Yeah he he could.
Speaker 10 (48:28):
It gives a magnificent performance. And this film is not
a remake. It's a reinterpretation of the great film High
and Low by the great Japanese filmmaker director A.
Speaker 6 (48:41):
Cure curs Out.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
So that was back in the sixties, mid.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
Nineteen nineteen sixty the great Tissan Muffoon who did many
many films. But curs Out is a he's executive at
a shoe factory. And in this film, Denzel Washington is
a music mogul who's notice having the best gears in
the business. So we shot this in the in the
streets of the great scenior world, Weather York for those
(49:09):
six Spanish you're talking about Weather York.
Speaker 10 (49:13):
And uh, my fifth film with Denzel and it's a
blessing and uh but.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
Not nervous pairing somebody like Denzel with asap.
Speaker 6 (49:25):
No, a sap is done.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
He's not.
Speaker 10 (49:27):
He's not his first film and he he auditioned and
and then I'll just tell you he's from Harlem, so.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
He's not afraid, not afraid.
Speaker 6 (49:40):
He's from Harlem Uptown.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
I know you were just on Carmelo Anthony's podcast and
they're talking about retirings Jersey. What about Bernard King.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
Or the Knicks?
Speaker 10 (49:53):
Me right, Yeah, here's the thing. Bernard is one of
the greats. But the neighbor But Bernard grew up in
my neighborhood, Fort Green. This hospital Fort Green called Cumbona Hospital.
Bernard was born there. Albert King, Mike Tyson and Michael Jordan,
(50:14):
they were all born in the hospital my neighbor Ford Green, Brooklyn. Wow, yeah, Bernard,
I mean those years, I mean it is this. I
wish they had better. I wish medicine was for long
so they were not. The operation he had his knees
(50:37):
would have made him come back, and he really wasn't
physically the same.
Speaker 6 (50:42):
We came back for the love. But I don't know
why the New York Nico Bokers has not retired. Bernard
King's jersey should be hanging from the raft of the
world's most famous arena. He was a square guard.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
He was a bucket man. He was a bucket every
time Fort Hamilton High School? Yeah, yeah, uh. How would
you celebrate if the next Winter title?
Speaker 3 (51:08):
What would it? What would a title mean to you?
Speaker 10 (51:12):
Well, May nineteen seventy I was at Game seven, the
Willis Reed Game. I was thirteen years old and I
just need one before I leave this earth. And I'm
(51:33):
telling you when I read the popes, he said he's
alumni Vanilla of Villanova. I said, oh my, it's a plump,
Oh my god, oh gee, what but listen to though
(52:00):
us think a little headed. It could be a Minnesota
nick final. Got my boy dotde villing over guys.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
So this might be the year you're going to church
on Saturday.
Speaker 10 (52:16):
Well, I'm not Catholic, but I might go back to
might go to abythen church in Marlow and get on
my knees. Oh Lord Jesus give us.
Speaker 6 (52:33):
But here's the thing though. You know when the Mets
won the World Series in nineteen sixty nine, I ran.
I ran on the field in Game five.
Speaker 10 (52:44):
Like twenty thousand other crazy kids, you know game back
then those were day games, the split in Baltimore, and
I'm range three and four Shay Stadium, Queens. And my
mother said, you're going to school.
Speaker 6 (53:03):
My father said, no, he ain't. He's going to Chase Dayton.
The Mets got away. What do they call the miracle Mets.
Speaker 10 (53:11):
Yeah, so miracles have happened in sports.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
Hockey with the you know the maan.
Speaker 4 (53:20):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (53:22):
It has happened, and we are long overdue.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
Good luck on Saturday. All right, good to talk to
you very much.
Speaker 4 (53:30):
Thank you, man. Take care. All right.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
That's Spike Lee and his movie coming out in August.
Highest to Lowest with Denzel Washington asap. Rocky is also
in it as well.
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