June 14, 2025 • 48 mins
Hall of Famer Ray Allen drops by to talk a little golf with the US Open this weekend, and he breaks down the coaching search and possible changes in New York as the Knicks look to replace Tom Thibodeau and pursue a trade for Giannis Antetokounmpo. NBA Commissioner Adam Silver shares that NBA expansion will be looked at this summer, discusses the reasons for the format change coming to the All-Star Game, and talks about Michael Jordan being a special contributor to NBC's NBA coverage next season. Plus, Oilers PxP voice Jack Michaels claims that this might be the best Stanley Cup Final in history and shares how hockey radio PxP voices are able to adequately describe an overtime goal.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Ray Allen, great golfer and one of the great shooters
of all time, joining us on the program. You played Oakmont, right, Nope,
I never have. Yeah. Yeah, toughest course you played, uh today?
The toughest course I would have to say is I'll
say on Homeland.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I would say Madina in Chicago, And then just recently
a couple of months ago, I played cab at Saint
Lucia and it was a beast.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
How is Jordan's as far as the test his skills,
his course?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
The grove, the grove, it is not difficult, uh, because
you can you can pretty much hit it anywhere off
the tee greens getting you know, really fast.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
I think you have to really.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Know how to chip around there, you know, if you
get around the green and it's like, you know, for
the for the first couple of rounds, it was like
I didn't even want to play the.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Place because I couldn't get up and down. I was
like blading everything.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And I realized the bounce on my wedge was too
high for that course.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
So you got to have a low bounce because the
grass is really tight. Does Michael make the course to
his liking.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I would say that he plays it fairly well because
distance really isn't a factor there. The way he plays it.
He doesn't hit the ball far, but he gets up
and down from everywhere. So he gets the ball in
front of the green, he's gonna get up and down
and he's a great He's probably the best putter that
I've seen, you know, amateur. So you lose a lot
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of round of greens there.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
And he's really good there.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Okay, a couple of things here. Grown is the first
organic fast food restaurant founded by you and Miami, Right,
all right, all right, so Shannon and Ray created Grown,
and you launched a nationwide franchising program. Look at you.
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You yeah, branching out, all right?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, I mean, you know, you get those people who
talk about getting the trainer and I need to work
on losing weight. But you know, our bodies are created
by how we eat, and you know, that's kind of
been the cornerstone of my career, focusing on how to
eat correctly. I had Nutritionis for the first time in
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twenty ten, and even then I sculpted myself, you know,
to even greater point. Just understanding what not to eat,
you know, eating at the right times, specifically for a
professional athlete. And so that's the thing people we're dealing with.
We're at this cross roads in this country where we're
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eating so poorly. The foods that are we have access to,
they're killing us. And so we've been on an all
are getting diet, my wife and I'm my family, my kids,
and specifically my son Walker since he was diagnosed with
diabetes at seventeen months. So putting foods in our body
to make sure that we don't take on those chemicals,
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you know, those processes and those GMOs like super important.
And that's one of the reasons that we exist is
to make sure that we provide food for people. You know,
in Miami we have a drive through, so providing food
for people that allow them to eat foods without the guilts,
Foods that they could prepare for their families, food that
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they can eat on the go.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
If you're looking for exploring franchise opportunities at gron dot
org or email at franchise at grown dot org. Talking
to Ray Allen, I noticed this on social media where
there was a discussion about Lebron doesn't have the bag. Now,
I didn't realize what they were saying, so I asked Marvin.
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He interpreted that since she's younger, and he says that
means that he doesn't have go to moves. I thought
it was money was the bag and he goes, no,
it can mean a lot of things. So Lebron doesn't
have the bag. What does that mean to you?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Well, I think over the course of a player's career,
you kind of consistently see what they can do on
a regular basis, and they do that. You pay to
see them play, You go watch them play, and they
do that move that they do consistently and they nobody
could stop it. You know, There's so many players over
the history and just kind of when you look at
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the NBA today, we've lost a lot of skill from
that standpoint, because even when I came into the league,
we had mid range players, we had great pick and
roll players, we had great post up players. And so
now it's kind of like you're looking at a league
of guys that you know you're shooting. It's a lot
of one on one stuff, shooting a lot of threes.
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And ironically, between OKAC and Indiana, there are probably two
of the few teams in the NBA that are shooting
mid ranges. And that's evident in how they got here
today to be in these finals because they're not relying
on analytics to only shoot threes. They're making sure they
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get into the paint. So when they have those scoring droughts,
Halliburton drives, Like in the game seven against New York,
he just or game six, I think it was Halliburton
just just picking rolls, got into the paint, he scored.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
And so so ultimately, when you talk.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
About a guy having a bag, it's having that pet
move where they can get to it and nobody can
stop it. And and Lebron has always been an unstoppable,
undeniable force where if you put a bigger guy on him,
he can't keep up with him because he doesn't have
the football. If he put a smaller guy on him,
he doesn't have the size. So Lebron's never really had
to have a pet move because he can just go
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downhill everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, but you know, the casual fan doesn't appreciate that ray.
They don't they don't see what you see. They want
to see like, oh my god, there's a skyhook or
iversen breaking ankles. Uh. You know Lebron with physicality, you know,
nobody's going to go wow, look at that. And you
know Jordan had the aesthetics. I mean he had you know,
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whether it's to fade away, going to the hoop, all
of those things. It just feels like because Lebron doesn't
look his game doesn't look pretty, you know, therefore he
doesn't have a bag.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I mean also it's statistic driven.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
The league is because the guys scoring more so being
able to get to the free throw line, being able
to score and transition and take the first shot available.
You know, you really don't have to because I think
even with with Giannis the year before.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
They want the NBA Championship in Milwaukee, you.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Can see that he was trying to play a certain
way where he had to have the ball in his hands.
He was trying to make a move and he didn't
have it. He didn't have that skill set and it
hurt Milwaukee's offense. And then the following year when he
started kind of moving the ball, got the ball to
Drew Drews the one of their go tos. And then
Middleton was a guy who down the stretch would score
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a lot for him, and so Janni's stayed in his
lane where he got scored in transition. You know, if
he got a wide open shot, he took it, but
he didn't know for accessibilities. And I think a lot
of times that's what it boils down to. It's just
understanding who you are, just sticking and you have to
rely on your team. So with Lebron, you know, that's
just the pop culture way of saying that he doesn't
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have a go to move that people can rely on
seeing from him every night. But he's still as much
as he's in the game, he's still going to score
twenty five plus points a night just because he has
pure dominance.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Talking to Ray Allen, the Hall of Famer, explain to
me the Jason kids that you Brian Windhorse said, there's
mutual interest Jason Kidd and the Knicks. Him coaching the Knicks.
You have Cooper Flyg coming to Dallas, and why would
he want to leave that? And you're going to go
to the Knicks. And the only thing I thought of is,
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I'm bringing in Jason Kidd if he can bring in Giannis.
If Yannas says all right, I want to go play
for Jason Kidd in New York. Other than that, why
would Jason Kidd want to coach the Knicks instead of
the Mavericks.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
So this is pretty interesting conversation because even when Tibbs
was fired last week, everybody was like, well, he made
it to the conference finals out, how can we.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Fire a guy like that?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
A lot of times we're you know, in the in
the outside world, because even when I was on the inside,
things were happening in locker rooms that people had no
idea as to what was taking place, and so people
had opinions, and I think a lot of times you
nailed it. There's things that are going on behind the
scenes that we're kind of not privy too. So there
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is there could be, you know, some type of deal
being worked where all these pieces kind of you know,
falling in place and then all of a sudden, it
just kind of happens.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
They fall like Domino. So do you is going to
be traded to the next Well?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I mean, I know he's been quipping about leaving Milwaukee,
and I think it's going to come down to kind
of the best deal that Milwaukee sees necessary leaving for
him to leave Milwaukee and understanding the void that that
that leaves Milwaukee. You know, they really want to get
something for him. So it really will depend on you
know what that looks like. When I got traded from
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from Seattle to Boston, I remember sitting in my room
and the trade, the draft was happening, and then I've
seen proposed trade and it was like Boston's giving up
like six players. I was like, oh, I'm so out
of here, and it said and nobody called me. But
the way I saw what Boston was given up, I
was like, yes, Seattle's taking that easily. So it will
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depend on, you know, how Milwaukee can set themselves up
for their future and who they get back in return.
But you know, look out Eastern Conference and NBA. If
Jonnis ends up in New York, because obviously it's a
huge market, it's great mark for him and with the
success that they've had recently with New York, but it
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is going to require the giving up one of their
core players that they have right now.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
If OKC wins this, let's say they win it in
five or six, will they be recognized as one of
the great single season teams of all time.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You know, it's hard to say that, but to your point,
it's amazing that they haven't gotten the do you know,
they won sixty eight games this year. My two championship season,
we won sixty sixteen, So definitely from a record standpoint,
they have to be given that respecting that due in
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the same token, they're so young, So I don't think
people expecting them to get there to this point. Even
you take a team like Cleveland being the number one
seed and I think they had the best record in
the NBA throughout the year, most people aren't surprised that
they're not here right now because they were so young,
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and the fact that okay See made it, You would
have thought it would have been Cleveland, okay See. But
the fact that Okay See made it. You know, the
game is so different now because of the three point shooting.
It shoots teams in and out of the game in
the same token, and you see, the volatility is so great.
You know, you're watching the game, team is down twenty
and all of a sudden fourth quarter. It's a type
of ball game, and a lot of that does have
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to do with, you know, being able to have certain
team scoring and that mid range game. You know, it
has to come back to that, you know, because there's
too much consistency in being able to uh sustain, you know,
or or come out of a The other day, Oka
see came out of a timeout and uh I don't
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know what the score was, but Indiana was was up
quite a bit and dag Nall called the timeout and
then they came out and I was telling my son,
let's see what they've run out of a timeout, and
I think it was door work that started with the
ball on the wing at the top of the screen,
and then he swung it, you know, pick and roll,
swung the uh shay, and then he used picking roll.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
He got all the way downhill on the scored a layup.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
And I said that, right there is amazing execution out
of a timeout because it slowed them down. They got
an easy bucket and they were able to get back
and set their defense up.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Look at you teaching moments there with your with your family.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, you're not just a three point shooter, right, I
mean you.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Know well that dad definitely is leading leading the charge
these days.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, but you used to go down the lane and
dunk people always go man raised a great three point shooter.
I said, you didn't see him early in his career then,
because you were attacking.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, and here's the fascinating thing about that. In Milwaukee
and in Seattle, Milwaukee, we basically played like a West
Coast offense, you know, so we got the ball, we
shot quick, you know, we kind of we had like
a spread offense. We didn't really have a post guy.
We could throw it down there some guys that could score.
And then those two places. Once I moved to Boston,
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then we were more traditional to NBA basketball, you know,
with KG and Perkins on the block and you know,
throw the ball over the pain and kick it back
out and then so it it. It kind of set
my feet a little more than I had been in
my career. Didn't mean that I still couldn't dunk and
I still you know, couldn't get to the hole. It
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did just change how I played and the most important
aspect of that, when you think about it, when I
came to Boston, I had to decide, am I going
to try to do this on my terms? Do I
want to do it on the team's terms? And ultimately
you win a championship because you have to adapt. It's
not the strongest the smartest that survive. It's the ones
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most willing to adapt it. In that situation. It was
difficult because I went from shooting sixteen seventeen shots a
game to eight or nine. But that's what it took
it off for US win a championship. KG Ye'll let
you alt. Kg'sus yelled a lot period. You know, you know,
we always you know, I remember we we play Our
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first game was in Rome, and you know, before the game,
I'm in here just dribbling the ball, get ready and
I'm excited. This is the first game together. And he
looks over at me and he's kind of moving to
the locker room. He looks over me, he goes, how
long are you gonna be doing that? And I was
like doing what? And I'm just sitting there dribbling between
my legs. He's like, you're gonna be drill on the
whole time. I said, yeah, we're about to play a
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basketball game. This is what you do. And that was
the moment where you got alpha alpha males just kind of,
you know, kind of banging up against each other because
the previous year he was in a locker room where
he was the guy.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
I was in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I was a guy and everything kind of, you know,
march to the beat of our drums, and so now
we had to learn to share space with other individuals
like ourselves, and it was it was an eye opener,
but it did. It taught you, taught me how to
say okay. In order for this to work, we have
to share space, and we got to understand, like, this
is not just my show anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Good to talk to you, Ray, Thanks for joining us,
and good luck with the restaurant. It's called Grown. It's
an organic fast food restaurant. And you want information about
exploring franchise opportunities, it's grown dot org or franchise at
grown dot org.
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Speaker 2 (17:06):
Let's bring in the commissioner, Adam Silver, joining us on
the program. Do you have business cards?
Speaker 8 (17:12):
Me?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, hold on, wait, what should say?
Speaker 9 (17:17):
It?
Speaker 8 (17:17):
Says National Basketball Association Adam Silver, commissioner, the whole phone
numbers an address?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Okay, how often do you hand those outs?
Speaker 8 (17:25):
You know, it's so funny when I give them to
younger people. They go like.
Speaker 10 (17:28):
This, but our generation still likes business cards, so I
still carry them or I got a I had about
a thousand printed I think when I became commissioners, so
I'm going.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
To use them up.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
You should just hand them out, autograph them. You know,
collectors items are impressed.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
You gotta impressed. I had them in my pocket.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
That's impressed.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
Who rehearsed this?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I know, that's impressive. You were at the University of Chicago,
what late eighties? Yes, okay, do you remember your first
Jordan Bulls game when you were in.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
I do, because so I got to I went to
law school at University of Chicago. I got there in
nineteen eighty five, and at that time, we could just
go down to the I mean you just bought tickets
at you know, literally at the ticket window at game time.
I mean, you know, I had gone to Duke so
I knew Michael from North Carolina. I mean not he
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wasn't secret, but they weren't selling out all the games
back then. I mean it was you know, people forget it.
It was several years before he won his first championship.
I mean, he was great, but it wasn't the Michael
Jordan that he turned into.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
When do you remember when it was more than just
a basketball game, not.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
While I was well, I remember there was an All
Star game in Chicago, so it would have been I
don't know, it was like eighty seven or something. I
remember that. What was the year when he went to
the game, eighty eighty? Yeah, okay, So that you know,
I think that transformed. I think him into this Globe
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icon in a way. I just think that that iconic
shot I can picture of him flying through the air.
I remember, you know, I did not have great seats,
but I remember I was in the arena when he
did that, and I just remember that that was transformational.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I think, how involved were you with NBC bringing in
Michael Jordan?
Speaker 8 (19:18):
Not at all, you mean just now there's just this
announcement they're bringing them back now. I mean they told
me they were going to try, and I said, good luck.
I didn't honestly didn't think he was going to do it.
You know, it took us, as you know, decades to
convince him to do the documentary, you know, the Last Dance,
which came out during the pandemic and ended up still
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I think it's one of them. You know, widely viewed
on Netflix, but he didn't, you know, he didn't want
to do that for a long time. We had the footage,
and I know there were other inquiries over the years,
and I think he, for whatever reason, he was ready
to do it.
Speaker 10 (19:53):
Now.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
I think he has, of course, incredibly fond memories of NBC.
I don't think that's lost on anyone he has. You know,
as you well know, some of the very same people
are there, people like John Miller, who he had a
relationship from back all those years ago. You know, Mark
Lazarus was still you know, they are just switched over
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to the other side of the operation. But you know,
so I think like he had those relationships and again
I didn't discourage them, but I was surprised he said, yes.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, still trying to figure out what his role is
going to be. Now do you follow up? Do you want?
Are you curious about what role Jordan is going to
play with the upcoming camp?
Speaker 8 (20:35):
Yeah? No, I you know, well, I you know, I
didn't know in advance, but that you know, they told
me what their idea was for him in that role,
and I think that they're still working through that. I
think that you know, I spoke to Michael about it.
I mean, he's he's excited about it. I think for him,
it means he's got to stay current with the game. Obviously,
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he's he's a small owner still in Charlotte, but he
he's so passionate about it. I mean, we talked about
it all the time. I mean, he you know, he
wants the game to be played the right way. He
he he, you know, he's still got a huge business
around the game with the Jordan brand. But I think
more importantly, he watches a lot of basketball and and
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you know, he knows it's it's what defines him still,
and so I think fans are going to enjoy hearing
his his take, you know, on on the modern League.
I think one of the things that I'm excited about
in terms of NBC coming back, and this goes back
to the Dick Eversol days, you know, is that I
remember that sign behind Dick's death that said storytelling. I mean,
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I think they're still some of the best edit you know,
and I think telling stories around the game, I mean
even right now, I mean that sort of this narrative
out there about small markets whatever else. I mean, you know,
incredible stories around Shay and you know in Tyres and
Pascal Siakam. I mean, I my job too. You you know,
we first met when I was at MBA Entertainment. But
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to tell those stories to fans, I think that's what
draws them in. I mean, there's the lovers of pure basketball,
and I think the basketball is fantastic, but you also
have to show how multi dimensional these players are, and
you know, explain to them the storylines, the conflict on
the floor. And nobody does that better than NBC.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You talked about Michael staying current. There are times when
Charles may not know who's even playing in a game
that he's watching. Now, it's funny to us, but you're
the commissioner and this is your lead broadcast team or
studio show. How does that kind of settle with you?
When Charles may not even know who he's talking about.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Well, that may be a little extreme. I mean I'm
down there a fair amount at their studio Atlanta. I mean,
he's watching the games. I mean they made a decision
to take an entertainment route with that studio show. I mean,
I think ESP was always about more hardcore basketball. Maybe
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NBC was somewhere in the middle in the old days.
But it's an entertainment show and he's entertaining and fans
seem to love it. You know. Sometimes he's a bit
of the crazy uncle, I think, But even when he's
I think there's a difference when putting aside, you know,
how focused he is on the game. My sense always
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when Charles is critical, it is a little bit like
your uncle at the Thanksgiving table being critical. It's like
there's no doubt it comes from a place of love.
You know. I don't feel the same way about some
of the other commentators, and I think it's just it's
you know, Charles found a lane and he does it well,
and it'll be interesting to see how that converts. As
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you know, they're now bringing that studio show to ESPN
and ABC next year. Yeah, I think, you know, we'll
see how that works out. I mean, I you know,
I love the fact that those guys are still going
to be involved in our telecast, but you know, I'm
not sure whether it will be produced differently for them,
or there be a different expectation from ESPN and ABC
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fans or watchers that maybe what people are seeing late
at night on TNT.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
He's the Commissioner of the NBA, Adam Silver. You know,
everybody gets caught up in ratings and I just say,
either watch it or not. You know, but the role
that social media plays on your priority list because this
is a global game and people may not watch the game,
but they're watching those clips. You know, you're getting views there.
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But as the commissioner, you got to, you know, pay
homage to the networks. But where does social media rank
on your priority list?
Speaker 8 (24:42):
Social media is high on our priority list. I mean,
first of all, we've had something like a billion view
so far globally on social media since the finals have started.
But also to get back to your ratings point, I
think what gets lost sometimes is just like social media
is global, so are the telc of our games. And
I understand people wanting to talk about our domestic ratings
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and the extent that the ratings are down, that's a storyline.
Or they're up, there's a storyline. And there is a
correlation between market size more than I'm happy about.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
You know.
Speaker 8 (25:17):
I was listening to Aaron Rodgers yesterday and he was
talking about now becoming a stealer and he was saying,
now I've played for two of the most storied franchises,
the Packers and the Steelers, but nobody stopped them to say, oh,
those are small markets. And so maybe I'm jealous in
a way from the NFL that that's never you know,
Steelers and Packers. The storyline is, it's unimaginable. It would
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be can you believe two small markets they're meeting in
the Super Bowl this year it's two storied franchises. And
in the NBA, I think because there was so much
outside success of certain franchises over the first several decades
of the league. I mean, the statistic is roughly over
the first sixty five years of the league, three teams
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won sixty percent of the champion hips. And so it's
understandable that Lakers Celtics Bowls still globally have these huge
followings because it gets almost passed on generationally. And to
make ourselves more like the NFL, I think we're moving
in that direction where we have a system now where
Oklahoma City and the Indianapolis can compete in the same
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way that larger markets can because of a cap system
and tax and all that stuff. So it's going to
take us a while to get there, but I understand
why ratings are part of the story. Now the last
part I'll say about social media. I do think something
we're thinking a lot more about and getting more sophisticated about,
is how do you translate social media into a desire
(26:43):
to watch live games. I'll give you just one example.
I think we may even talked about it last time
I was on Victor wembin Yama was in New York
playing on Christmas and then played in Brooklyn a few
days later, so he was staying in New York around
that time. He's a chess player to Washington Square Park
play chess in the rain for forty five minutes. Within
(27:06):
five days, one hundred million people had viewed him playing chess.
And it was just anecdotally. Anyone I would ask, because
it was also on a lot of the morning shows.
I said, do you see Victory, Oh yeah, that was
the guy from France he played. Now the question is
seeing that he also plays chess, and he's by definition
you could say, a multi dimensional guy. There's far more
to him than ball playing. He speaks multiple languages, even
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the fact that he's you know, grew up outside of Paris,
et cetera. How do we as the league use that
to bring people to the set to watch live games,
because I would say, looking back, we've gotten distracted at
times and forgotten sort of, or I've forgotten that My
core responsibility is to get more people to be passionate
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about NBA basketball and watch our games. That's what sustains
our business. I mean, of course ticket sales, but ticket
sales are as high as they've been in the history
of the league, and there's not a lot more room
to grow because our buildings are roughly ninety five percent full.
We have a global following, so there's enormous opportunity both
through social media, but where the real value comes is
(28:12):
from people watching live games. So I think we can
do a better job using social media to bring people
to the set to say, tonight eight thirty ABC, you know,
game three, tune in. And to be more sophisticated about
understanding is it would people rather see more about Shay Gilgess,
Alexander's background, growing up in Canada, et cetera. What are
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the things he loves or do they want to see him,
you know, working out what aspects of him are going
to cause people to be more likely to be interested
in watching the game.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Tonight why does the All Star Game have to be competitive?
Speaker 8 (28:51):
It's an interesting question because again I was just talking
about how how jealousyam of aspects of the NFL. The
Pro Bowl at this point is flag football, and I
think that fans that seem to accept that it gets
a good rating, and nobody suggests that that's indicative of
a lack of desire or passion by NFL players for
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whatever reason. In the case in the NBA, when we've
tried other things and thought, all right, we'll go more
entertainment route or whatever else, the reaction is, I can't
believe your players aren't giving their all for an All
Star Game, or at least maybe they don't expect them
to play like they would in the playoffs. But they're
expecting a competitive game, and so that's fair. Then we
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have to respond to that, and I haven't been successful, frankly,
in the last few years. We tried some new things
in San Francisco. I mean, part of it was there
was a format issue. There was a huge stoppage of
play in the final. You know, we had this round
robin where you know, there was a celebration around Turner,
which they deserve. But I think the game lost to
aut momentum. So something you've talked a lot about historically
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is this USA World concept. And obviously so I watch
what other sports are doing. The NHL had great success
with the four nation face off, so we're looking now
for next year. We'll be in LA we'll be into
a dome where the Olympics are going to take place
in twenty eight and we're going to be on NBC
back to NBC for the All Star Game, and we're
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going to be smack in the middle of winter Olympic coverage.
So ever a time to move to USA World, it's now.
What we're toying with now and working with Andrea Gudala
at the Players Association, is what's the right format because
I don't I think straight up USA World probably won't
work because although the number of international players is growing
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and its roughly thirty percent of our league right now,
it wouldn't be fair to pick the All Star seventy
percent as one team thirty percent of the other. So
I think we're again playing off what the NHL did.
Maybe there's there's multiple teams, maybe there's more than one
USA team, but we can achieve that concept, and I
think create a sense of nationalism around it, and again
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feel like we belong sort of on the Sunday where
it's otherwise Olympic coverage. So I'm hopeful that we can
create something more competitive there.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Do you have your wish list of expansion like the
cities right now.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
There's cities we're thinking about.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
How many cities would you say are on that wish list?
Speaker 8 (31:18):
Well, let me begin by saying it it's not obvious
to me we should expand. I think it's likely over
time we will. And the reason I say it's not
obvious is because as a global business, you know where
something like two billion people will connect with us on
social media, over a billion people over the course of
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the year, we'll watch some portion of the game. Adding
another US city, arguably, it's unclear how much growth will
get as a result of that. And when you're adding
expansion franchises, you're diluting their competition two more Let's say
we expand my two teams, two more teams that you
know are going to be competing for those same players,
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and you're diluting your economics the extent we have locked
in television money now for the next decade, you have
two more partners. Having said that, I do believe certain
markets potentially can be additive to the NBA, and that's
what we're going to look at. And I think part
of it is geographic. It's a big country, you know,
making sure we're represented, you know, all around the country.
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And then over time, maybe there's more we can do
in Canada. And Mexico City is a city we've talked
about before. You know, I don't want to say specific
cities today, just because many have reached out to us
to say they're interested and I and our reaction so
far has been thank you for your interest. We haven't
taken any meetings with any cities. We have a board
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meeting in Las Vegas around the Summer League in July.
I know we're going to be talking about it. Then.
I had been saying for the last several years, let
us get through collective bargaining, which we did, let us
figure out our new media relationships, which we have, and
that would be the time to consider it seriously. So
that's what we're going to do this summer.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
But I'm retiring in three years, Commissioner will is what
I'm retiring in three years. Will we have expansion in
three years.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
I'm honestly not sure. I okay, I whether if, even
if we were to announce, we're engaged in a process.
It's not clear to me at what moment they would
start playing. But look this, I don't mean to tease
people with this. This is the summer. We're gonna look
at it. Seriously.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I thought you'd be a little more emotional about my retirement.
I mean, it's kind of blue right past that.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
You're like Michael Jortan, you've retired before.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I'm not coming real yet, I'm not coming. I'm not
gonna play baseball. Just gonna let you know. I'm not
gonna let you. But hey, thanks for joining us. Have
fun tonight and thanks again.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Yeah thanks Dan.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
That's Adam Silver, NBA Commissioner.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
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Speaker 2 (33:54):
App final hour. In this Meet Friday Dan and the
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You can see this show on peacock. Thank you for
downloading the app. And the final hour of the program.
It is a meet Friday. We have clams casino, we
have Friday artichokes, we have vodka, sauce, lasagna, and we
have a little pesto as well. Who has it better
(34:40):
than we do? No nobody pull question? Final hour the
program seat and at least final hour on this Friday.
Speaker 11 (34:49):
How superstitious are you? Have a hard time saying superstitious, extremely,
a little, not at all. Seventy four percent.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Are a little.
Speaker 11 (34:57):
In Friday the thirteenth, I wonder way you be a
little and not extremely.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Maybe it's little things that you're superstitious. Superstitious?
Speaker 12 (35:08):
Yes, can you be sportsstitious and not superstitious? Like I
wouldn't be bothered if I broke a mirror or walked
under a ladder, wouldn't bother me at all. But if
a team I love is playing well and I'm sitting
in a certain seat in my house, I'm staying in
that seat. Yeah, and vice versa.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Yes, so that's sports.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I guess it's superstitious. Yes, yeah, I would think so. Yeah.
What else do you have? Seaton? Uh?
Speaker 11 (35:34):
We also put up there. This one is very much
about Todd Fritz. Would you rather be physically fragile or
mentally disturbed? It's one or the other. I'm surprised that
so many people, I'm not sure why I'm surprised about this,
but that so many people are choosing physically fragile rather
(35:56):
than mentally disturbed.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I don't think anybody wants to be disturbed.
Speaker 11 (36:00):
It could be mentally disturbed, but that means that you're
super fit. How about your crazy ending good shame? Or
you can be have all of your mental faculties that
are perfectly intact, but you're very fragile.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Physically, What about mentally physical or mentally or physically soft?
How about if we just did that, it could be
mentally soft or physically soft, and what it would people
say about that? Any other poll questions for the final
hour this week, we can update that if you'd like,
we can all right, would you rather be mentally soft
(36:33):
or physically soft? Okay, Todd might be both eight seven
seven three DP show email address dp at Danpatrick dot com,
Twitter handle a tp show Nick and Irvine. Hi Nick,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (36:49):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 6 (36:50):
I got three comments for you. First of all, back
in the eighties, when you could go to a Hollywood
park for horse racing and there's thirty thousand, forty thousand people,
I was into the ponies, and I was on a
bad streak, and I was trying everything. I'll never forget
my dad when I told him what was going on,
and you know, I was trying to put together numbers
(37:12):
and trying to, you know, do all these different things.
And he said, and he looked me right now, the
most earnest thing he ever said, and he said, Son,
don't forget these two pieces of advice. Number one, it
is bad luck to be superstitious, and number two, never
bet on a horse that eats. And ever since then,
I have never lost again at the track. I want
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to tell you about my trigger grilled. It is true
that you can you can adjust the trigger grill with
your phone. It's an incredible feature. But Todd, I think
you would like this. You can it's a little known fact.
You can also call the trigger grill and you can
talk to each individual Patty or Chicken wing or whatever.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
And thank you. You have Thunder Pacers Game four, Okay,
see you favor by six. The Oilers came back. They
were down three to nothing and then they went five
to four and overtime. And this is how the game
winner sounded breaking free is.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Try shuddle to the deck side.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Leyon try suddle Christ time.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
This series what a fourth hot winner of.
Speaker 11 (38:22):
The playoffs Final star Edmitten five Florida four and.
Speaker 13 (38:31):
Over.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
The man on the call, Jack Michaels, Edmondton Oiler's radio
play by playboys, how's the throat today? Jack Dan?
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I'm okay, you know what I And I don't know
whether that triggered you, because nineteen years ago you and
Keith were doing Homer Call the Week and you had
me on twice in two weeks, Alaskan Vegas and Alaskan Fresno.
And I remember you being fascinated with it being the
East Coast Hockey, you know, championship series involving Alaska and Fresno.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Great to have you back. You had a great seat
for this. With your team down three to nothing, what
were you thinking?
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Well, to be honest with you, that's where the Oilers
seem to thrive. I don't know what it is, but
this club is not content with prosperity. It loves to
dig itself a hole. Whether it's early in the season
they started zero to three this year, two nine and
one last year, or whether it's in early in games.
And you just had a feeling that if Edmonton got won,
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the momentum con turn in a hurry. We've got two
great teams, Dan, I would say through four finals, this
Stanley Cup Final is shaping up is the best in
the history of the sport. And I honestly don't you
know that's not an exaggeration. These two teams are clearly
the best in the National Hockey League. They found an
extra year, and you know Florida is a worthy champion.
(40:00):
This is now a best of three with two on
Edmonton's tall ice. But I don't think anyone can be
called a favorite. Not right now. We've had the two
latest game time goals in the history of the final
a week apart.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Also, when we talked about this last week, how important
is the Cup to Canada? We know it's important to Edmonton,
is Canada rooting for Edmonton.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Well, I think for years. I think for years Edmonton
has been kind of everyone's second favorite team.
Speaker 9 (40:32):
Is you know, passionate fan bases exist in you know,
Toronto and you know, so, I don't know whether the
Leafs are more of a polarizing figure than some of
the other clubs. Edmonton is more you know, I mean Preston, right,
if no one really hates you, or except maybe.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Those who reside in Calgary. Right, It's a bit of
a national team for Patrison in the sense that when
you live in Canada, there's no.
Speaker 9 (41:04):
Middle round with the Tonnamically, Edmondson is a little bit
different in the.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Sense, well, you know, I can live with Edmonson winning
the Cup. I can't live with Lae winning the cuff.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
When you go to overtime, you know that the game
is on somebody's stick there as the play by play voice.
How do you approach that knowing that it can end
very quickly?
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Absolutely, no divergence, no tangents, no you know thoughts that
come to mind. Just button it up and call the game.
And you have to do that.
Speaker 9 (41:41):
Really with Conor McDavid anyway, I as you can probably
tell them thrown the gab.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
I need to button it up all the game because
they could end at any moment. And as you saw,
I mean Leon Dresser one handed shot that gets a
carab off a kneecap and goes five hole on Bbroski.
Not your typical you know, ot winner.
Speaker 9 (42:01):
You just have to be ready and you can't again
go off on some random spot from nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
You are a professional at doing this. We just heard
your call with the game winning goal in overtime, Seaton O'Connor,
who works on my show, We love Leon Dry title.
We only bring his name up in June, but you
know he's always uh scoring big goals. I want you
to grade Seaton's call of Leon Dry Sidle's game winner
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last night.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
How you know, I guess what I say is I
need a little crowd noise. It's not completely Oh you
got a little bit of a phone bowl situation. The
good thing is his voice not cracked. I will say that.
You know he didn't sound like a guy clicks around
a left.
Speaker 9 (43:00):
So that's the start.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
And you know you play by play guys in hockey,
it's like you're trying to cram words in and then
all of a sudden. It just is all kind of
jumbled and then it's try Sidda in over time.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
That's why I went to the overtime call the way
I did. I figure that was one word that everyone
would understand.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah. Hey, great to talk to you again, and good
luck with this next game on Saturday. Thank you, Jack, Dan, I.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Really appreciate you having me on, And Keith says below.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Jack Michaels Edmondton owner's radio play by play voice, also
does TV as well. Fifteen years doing radio. Yeah, we
had him on for Homer Call of the Week nineteen
years ago and Keith Oberman has stayed in touch with him.
That was the all hour two Yeah, in the middle
of the Yeah, yeah, a radio show. The Homer Call
(44:02):
of the Week was fun. Homer Call the Week was fun.
Brought to you by James in New Mexico. Hi James,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 13 (44:11):
Thanks for taking the call. So I'm part of your
younger demographic and an NBA casualist, I guess I would say,
And I was curious, so, you know, not knowing too
much about the past eras of players who would be
the comps to today's game. It could be like play style,
but it's hard because there's two different games. But like
(44:32):
who they were in the media, Like who is who
was Barkley then today? And I guess obviously want to
be Jordan Lebron, but like try to educate myself more
on who they were to the game and like in
the media back then to today's game.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Some comps there, Huh. I don't think there aren't comps
for those three. I mean Charles was unique. I mean
he's more unique now. But as a player, you're just
you couldn't believe that somebody who's six' five is going
Against shaq and wasn't afraid Of.
Speaker 8 (45:02):
Shack.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Jordan you're watching and you're going, That i've never seen
anybody like. That and then Even, lebron somebody that, big
who's able to do all of these things because we
thought we saw that with. Magic now you're Seeing lebron
do that but also be a great scorer and now
forty thousand points. Later THAT i think a lot of
times we try to do those. Comparisons you, know that
(45:26):
guy reminds me of there's so many unique great athletes
that there aren't comps every white player who can, shoot you,
know he kind of reminds me Of Larry. Bird, no,
no he doesn't anybody who's six's nine at point. Guard you,
know he reminds me Of magic just because he's six'.
(45:46):
Nine sga you're hearing the, you know he's Kinda Like.
Michael jordan no. He's, not no he's a, great scorer.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
But He's Not.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Michael jordan it's just.
Speaker 8 (45:59):
Different.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Style points jordan gave, You that barkley gave you. That lebron,
you know there's Nobody Like, steph curry, no one and you, can,
say oh you know it kind of reminds Me Of.
Steph Curry caitlin clark might remind You Of. Steph curry
that's the closest COMP that i. Would have but, You Know,
(46:21):
Klay thompson i've never seen somebody so economical at his
peak of not needing a dribble and that famous game
where he had like nine dribbles the. Entire, Game yeah
marvin respect, his handle he had. Eleven dribbles so. Eleven, Dribbles,
okay yeah he's not beating you off. The dribble, you
(46:43):
Know if i'm, GUARDING him i know he's not going
to beat me off, the dribble but he is if
you let, him shoot and he's. Making it and that's
another one of those guys when you're watching guys who
were in college and then, you, go wow that guy's
going to be. A pro he's going to, be great
and then he doesn't, become that and then you see
somebody else and, you, go, oh man he Went To.
(47:06):
WASHINGTON state i REMEMBER what i Remember Watching washington state
and the only REASON why I Remember klay thompson is
because of, His, father MICHAEL who i know that. WAS
it i Remember Watching gary Payton at OREGON and, i
said that guy's going to be a. Great pro But
Then brent barry is on. That team and if you
(47:26):
would have, said, that dude there's going to win the slam,
Dunk contest i'd, be. Like huh you see these guys
and then you don't. Envision Them steve Nash At SANTA
clara i WATCHED and i, was like this little guy
with a bad haircut and he. Is entertaining never would
have thought anything other. Than that that's why when you had,
(47:47):
these scouts when, they, go hey we're taking, this guy and, you,
go man who? Saw that or when you have scouts and,
they go we're taking, this guy and, you go what
did you see in? That guy what did you See
in Michael oloa Can Or anthony bennett or some of these,
Other players and, you're, like, Huh, Yes, Martin Yeah klay
thompson his. FIRST team i did not see.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
That Coming donovan mitchell was another guy where it was
like the undersize got Out, of louisville.
Speaker 8 (48:14):
Then, you, know wow they picked him.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Pretty. HIGH yeah i, did not not saying they weren't
very good, college PLAYERS but i didn't.
Speaker 8 (48:20):
EXPECT this i.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Don't Even Remember Donovan mitchell louisville because it felt like
all of their guards were like six. To one but
they were an. Unbelievable team
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Ray Allen, great golfer and one of the great shooters
of all time, joining us on the program. You played Oakmont, right, Nope,
I never have. Yeah. Yeah, toughest course you played, uh today?
The toughest course I would have to say is I'll
say on Homeland.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I would say Madina in Chicago, And then just recently
a couple of months ago, I played cab at Saint
Lucia and it was a beast.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
How is Jordan's as far as the test his skills,
his course?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
The grove, the grove, it is not difficult, uh, because
you can you can pretty much hit it anywhere off
the tee greens getting you know, really fast.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
I think you have to really.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Know how to chip around there, you know, if you
get around the green and it's like, you know, for
the for the first couple of rounds, it was like
I didn't even want to play the.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Place because I couldn't get up and down. I was
like blading everything.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And I realized the bounce on my wedge was too
high for that course.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
So you got to have a low bounce because the
grass is really tight. Does Michael make the course to
his liking.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I would say that he plays it fairly well because
distance really isn't a factor there. The way he plays it.
He doesn't hit the ball far, but he gets up
and down from everywhere. So he gets the ball in
front of the green, he's gonna get up and down
and he's a great He's probably the best putter that
I've seen, you know, amateur. So you lose a lot
(01:46):
of round of greens there.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
And he's really good there.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Okay, a couple of things here. Grown is the first
organic fast food restaurant founded by you and Miami, Right,
all right, all right, so Shannon and Ray created Grown,
and you launched a nationwide franchising program. Look at you.
(02:10):
You yeah, branching out, all right?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, I mean, you know, you get those people who
talk about getting the trainer and I need to work
on losing weight. But you know, our bodies are created
by how we eat, and you know, that's kind of
been the cornerstone of my career, focusing on how to
eat correctly. I had Nutritionis for the first time in
(02:34):
twenty ten, and even then I sculpted myself, you know,
to even greater point. Just understanding what not to eat,
you know, eating at the right times, specifically for a
professional athlete. And so that's the thing people we're dealing with.
We're at this cross roads in this country where we're
(02:55):
eating so poorly. The foods that are we have access to,
they're killing us. And so we've been on an all
are getting diet, my wife and I'm my family, my kids,
and specifically my son Walker since he was diagnosed with
diabetes at seventeen months. So putting foods in our body
to make sure that we don't take on those chemicals,
(03:18):
you know, those processes and those GMOs like super important.
And that's one of the reasons that we exist is
to make sure that we provide food for people. You know,
in Miami we have a drive through, so providing food
for people that allow them to eat foods without the guilts,
Foods that they could prepare for their families, food that
(03:38):
they can eat on the go.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
If you're looking for exploring franchise opportunities at gron dot
org or email at franchise at grown dot org. Talking
to Ray Allen, I noticed this on social media where
there was a discussion about Lebron doesn't have the bag. Now,
I didn't realize what they were saying, so I asked Marvin.
(04:01):
He interpreted that since she's younger, and he says that
means that he doesn't have go to moves. I thought
it was money was the bag and he goes, no,
it can mean a lot of things. So Lebron doesn't
have the bag. What does that mean to you?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Well, I think over the course of a player's career,
you kind of consistently see what they can do on
a regular basis, and they do that. You pay to
see them play, You go watch them play, and they
do that move that they do consistently and they nobody
could stop it. You know, There's so many players over
the history and just kind of when you look at
(04:40):
the NBA today, we've lost a lot of skill from
that standpoint, because even when I came into the league,
we had mid range players, we had great pick and
roll players, we had great post up players. And so
now it's kind of like you're looking at a league
of guys that you know you're shooting. It's a lot
of one on one stuff, shooting a lot of threes.
(05:02):
And ironically, between OKAC and Indiana, there are probably two
of the few teams in the NBA that are shooting
mid ranges. And that's evident in how they got here
today to be in these finals because they're not relying
on analytics to only shoot threes. They're making sure they
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get into the paint. So when they have those scoring droughts,
Halliburton drives, Like in the game seven against New York,
he just or game six, I think it was Halliburton
just just picking rolls, got into the paint, he scored.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
And so so ultimately, when you talk.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
About a guy having a bag, it's having that pet
move where they can get to it and nobody can
stop it. And and Lebron has always been an unstoppable,
undeniable force where if you put a bigger guy on him,
he can't keep up with him because he doesn't have
the football. If he put a smaller guy on him,
he doesn't have the size. So Lebron's never really had
to have a pet move because he can just go
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downhill everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, but you know, the casual fan doesn't appreciate that ray.
They don't they don't see what you see. They want
to see like, oh my god, there's a skyhook or
iversen breaking ankles. Uh. You know Lebron with physicality, you know,
nobody's going to go wow, look at that. And you
know Jordan had the aesthetics. I mean he had you know,
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whether it's to fade away, going to the hoop, all
of those things. It just feels like because Lebron doesn't
look his game doesn't look pretty, you know, therefore he
doesn't have a bag.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I mean also it's statistic driven.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
The league is because the guys scoring more so being
able to get to the free throw line, being able
to score and transition and take the first shot available.
You know, you really don't have to because I think
even with with Giannis the year before.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
They want the NBA Championship in Milwaukee, you.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Can see that he was trying to play a certain
way where he had to have the ball in his hands.
He was trying to make a move and he didn't
have it. He didn't have that skill set and it
hurt Milwaukee's offense. And then the following year when he
started kind of moving the ball, got the ball to
Drew Drews the one of their go tos. And then
Middleton was a guy who down the stretch would score
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a lot for him, and so Janni's stayed in his
lane where he got scored in transition. You know, if
he got a wide open shot, he took it, but
he didn't know for accessibilities. And I think a lot
of times that's what it boils down to. It's just
understanding who you are, just sticking and you have to
rely on your team. So with Lebron, you know, that's
just the pop culture way of saying that he doesn't
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have a go to move that people can rely on
seeing from him every night. But he's still as much
as he's in the game, he's still going to score
twenty five plus points a night just because he has
pure dominance.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Talking to Ray Allen, the Hall of Famer, explain to
me the Jason kids that you Brian Windhorse said, there's
mutual interest Jason Kidd and the Knicks. Him coaching the Knicks.
You have Cooper Flyg coming to Dallas, and why would
he want to leave that? And you're going to go
to the Knicks. And the only thing I thought of is,
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I'm bringing in Jason Kidd if he can bring in Giannis.
If Yannas says all right, I want to go play
for Jason Kidd in New York. Other than that, why
would Jason Kidd want to coach the Knicks instead of
the Mavericks.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
So this is pretty interesting conversation because even when Tibbs
was fired last week, everybody was like, well, he made
it to the conference finals out, how can we.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Fire a guy like that?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
A lot of times we're you know, in the in
the outside world, because even when I was on the inside,
things were happening in locker rooms that people had no
idea as to what was taking place, and so people
had opinions, and I think a lot of times you
nailed it. There's things that are going on behind the
scenes that we're kind of not privy too. So there
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is there could be, you know, some type of deal
being worked where all these pieces kind of you know,
falling in place and then all of a sudden, it
just kind of happens.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
They fall like Domino. So do you is going to
be traded to the next Well?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I mean, I know he's been quipping about leaving Milwaukee,
and I think it's going to come down to kind
of the best deal that Milwaukee sees necessary leaving for
him to leave Milwaukee and understanding the void that that
that leaves Milwaukee. You know, they really want to get
something for him. So it really will depend on you
know what that looks like. When I got traded from
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from Seattle to Boston, I remember sitting in my room
and the trade, the draft was happening, and then I've
seen proposed trade and it was like Boston's giving up
like six players. I was like, oh, I'm so out
of here, and it said and nobody called me. But
the way I saw what Boston was given up, I
was like, yes, Seattle's taking that easily. So it will
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depend on, you know, how Milwaukee can set themselves up
for their future and who they get back in return.
But you know, look out Eastern Conference and NBA. If
Jonnis ends up in New York, because obviously it's a
huge market, it's great mark for him and with the
success that they've had recently with New York, but it
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is going to require the giving up one of their
core players that they have right now.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
If OKC wins this, let's say they win it in
five or six, will they be recognized as one of
the great single season teams of all time.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You know, it's hard to say that, but to your point,
it's amazing that they haven't gotten the do you know,
they won sixty eight games this year. My two championship season,
we won sixty sixteen, So definitely from a record standpoint,
they have to be given that respecting that due in
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the same token, they're so young, So I don't think
people expecting them to get there to this point. Even
you take a team like Cleveland being the number one
seed and I think they had the best record in
the NBA throughout the year, most people aren't surprised that
they're not here right now because they were so young,
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and the fact that okay See made it, You would
have thought it would have been Cleveland, okay See. But
the fact that Okay See made it. You know, the
game is so different now because of the three point shooting.
It shoots teams in and out of the game in
the same token, and you see, the volatility is so great.
You know, you're watching the game, team is down twenty
and all of a sudden fourth quarter. It's a type
of ball game, and a lot of that does have
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to do with, you know, being able to have certain
team scoring and that mid range game. You know, it
has to come back to that, you know, because there's
too much consistency in being able to uh sustain, you know,
or or come out of a The other day, Oka
see came out of a timeout and uh I don't
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know what the score was, but Indiana was was up
quite a bit and dag Nall called the timeout and
then they came out and I was telling my son,
let's see what they've run out of a timeout, and
I think it was door work that started with the
ball on the wing at the top of the screen,
and then he swung it, you know, pick and roll,
swung the uh shay, and then he used picking roll.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
He got all the way downhill on the scored a layup.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
And I said that, right there is amazing execution out
of a timeout because it slowed them down. They got
an easy bucket and they were able to get back
and set their defense up.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Look at you teaching moments there with your with your family.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, you're not just a three point shooter, right, I
mean you.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Know well that dad definitely is leading leading the charge
these days.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, but you used to go down the lane and
dunk people always go man raised a great three point shooter.
I said, you didn't see him early in his career then,
because you were attacking.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, and here's the fascinating thing about that. In Milwaukee
and in Seattle, Milwaukee, we basically played like a West
Coast offense, you know, so we got the ball, we
shot quick, you know, we kind of we had like
a spread offense. We didn't really have a post guy.
We could throw it down there some guys that could score.
And then those two places. Once I moved to Boston,
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then we were more traditional to NBA basketball, you know,
with KG and Perkins on the block and you know,
throw the ball over the pain and kick it back
out and then so it it. It kind of set
my feet a little more than I had been in
my career. Didn't mean that I still couldn't dunk and
I still you know, couldn't get to the hole. It
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did just change how I played and the most important
aspect of that, when you think about it, when I
came to Boston, I had to decide, am I going
to try to do this on my terms? Do I
want to do it on the team's terms? And ultimately
you win a championship because you have to adapt. It's
not the strongest the smartest that survive. It's the ones
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most willing to adapt it. In that situation. It was
difficult because I went from shooting sixteen seventeen shots a
game to eight or nine. But that's what it took
it off for US win a championship. KG Ye'll let
you alt. Kg'sus yelled a lot period. You know, you know,
we always you know, I remember we we play Our
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first game was in Rome, and you know, before the game,
I'm in here just dribbling the ball, get ready and
I'm excited. This is the first game together. And he
looks over at me and he's kind of moving to
the locker room. He looks over me, he goes, how
long are you gonna be doing that? And I was
like doing what? And I'm just sitting there dribbling between
my legs. He's like, you're gonna be drill on the
whole time. I said, yeah, we're about to play a
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basketball game. This is what you do. And that was
the moment where you got alpha alpha males just kind of,
you know, kind of banging up against each other because
the previous year he was in a locker room where
he was the guy.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
I was in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I was a guy and everything kind of, you know,
march to the beat of our drums, and so now
we had to learn to share space with other individuals
like ourselves, and it was it was an eye opener,
but it did. It taught you, taught me how to
say okay. In order for this to work, we have
to share space, and we got to understand, like, this
is not just my show anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
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Speaker 2 (17:06):
Let's bring in the commissioner, Adam Silver, joining us on
the program. Do you have business cards?
Speaker 8 (17:12):
Me?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, hold on, wait, what should say?
Speaker 9 (17:17):
It?
Speaker 8 (17:17):
Says National Basketball Association Adam Silver, commissioner, the whole phone
numbers an address?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Okay, how often do you hand those outs?
Speaker 8 (17:25):
You know, it's so funny when I give them to
younger people. They go like.
Speaker 10 (17:28):
This, but our generation still likes business cards, so I
still carry them or I got a I had about
a thousand printed I think when I became commissioners, so
I'm going.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
To use them up.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
You should just hand them out, autograph them. You know,
collectors items are impressed.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
You gotta impressed. I had them in my pocket.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
That's impressed.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
Who rehearsed this?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I know, that's impressive. You were at the University of Chicago,
what late eighties? Yes, okay, do you remember your first
Jordan Bulls game when you were in.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
I do, because so I got to I went to
law school at University of Chicago. I got there in
nineteen eighty five, and at that time, we could just
go down to the I mean you just bought tickets
at you know, literally at the ticket window at game time.
I mean, you know, I had gone to Duke so
I knew Michael from North Carolina. I mean not he
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wasn't secret, but they weren't selling out all the games
back then. I mean it was you know, people forget it.
It was several years before he won his first championship.
I mean, he was great, but it wasn't the Michael
Jordan that he turned into.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
When do you remember when it was more than just
a basketball game, not.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
While I was well, I remember there was an All
Star game in Chicago, so it would have been I
don't know, it was like eighty seven or something. I
remember that. What was the year when he went to
the game, eighty eighty? Yeah, okay, So that you know,
I think that transformed. I think him into this Globe
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icon in a way. I just think that that iconic
shot I can picture of him flying through the air.
I remember, you know, I did not have great seats,
but I remember I was in the arena when he
did that, and I just remember that that was transformational.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I think, how involved were you with NBC bringing in
Michael Jordan?
Speaker 8 (19:18):
Not at all, you mean just now there's just this
announcement they're bringing them back now. I mean they told
me they were going to try, and I said, good luck.
I didn't honestly didn't think he was going to do it.
You know, it took us, as you know, decades to
convince him to do the documentary, you know, the Last Dance,
which came out during the pandemic and ended up still
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I think it's one of them. You know, widely viewed
on Netflix, but he didn't, you know, he didn't want
to do that for a long time. We had the footage,
and I know there were other inquiries over the years,
and I think he, for whatever reason, he was ready
to do it.
Speaker 10 (19:53):
Now.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
I think he has, of course, incredibly fond memories of NBC.
I don't think that's lost on anyone he has. You know,
as you well know, some of the very same people
are there, people like John Miller, who he had a
relationship from back all those years ago. You know, Mark
Lazarus was still you know, they are just switched over
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to the other side of the operation. But you know,
so I think like he had those relationships and again
I didn't discourage them, but I was surprised he said, yes.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, still trying to figure out what his role is
going to be. Now do you follow up? Do you want?
Are you curious about what role Jordan is going to
play with the upcoming camp?
Speaker 8 (20:35):
Yeah? No, I you know, well, I you know, I
didn't know in advance, but that you know, they told
me what their idea was for him in that role,
and I think that they're still working through that. I
think that you know, I spoke to Michael about it.
I mean, he's he's excited about it. I think for him,
it means he's got to stay current with the game. Obviously,
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he's he's a small owner still in Charlotte, but he
he's so passionate about it. I mean, we talked about
it all the time. I mean, he you know, he
wants the game to be played the right way. He
he he, you know, he's still got a huge business
around the game with the Jordan brand. But I think
more importantly, he watches a lot of basketball and and
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you know, he knows it's it's what defines him still,
and so I think fans are going to enjoy hearing
his his take, you know, on on the modern League.
I think one of the things that I'm excited about
in terms of NBC coming back, and this goes back
to the Dick Eversol days, you know, is that I
remember that sign behind Dick's death that said storytelling. I mean,
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I think they're still some of the best edit you know,
and I think telling stories around the game, I mean
even right now, I mean that sort of this narrative
out there about small markets whatever else. I mean, you know,
incredible stories around Shay and you know in Tyres and
Pascal Siakam. I mean, I my job too. You you know,
we first met when I was at MBA Entertainment. But
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to tell those stories to fans, I think that's what
draws them in. I mean, there's the lovers of pure basketball,
and I think the basketball is fantastic, but you also
have to show how multi dimensional these players are, and
you know, explain to them the storylines, the conflict on
the floor. And nobody does that better than NBC.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You talked about Michael staying current. There are times when
Charles may not know who's even playing in a game
that he's watching. Now, it's funny to us, but you're
the commissioner and this is your lead broadcast team or
studio show. How does that kind of settle with you?
When Charles may not even know who he's talking about.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Well, that may be a little extreme. I mean I'm
down there a fair amount at their studio Atlanta. I mean,
he's watching the games. I mean they made a decision
to take an entertainment route with that studio show. I mean,
I think ESP was always about more hardcore basketball. Maybe
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NBC was somewhere in the middle in the old days.
But it's an entertainment show and he's entertaining and fans
seem to love it. You know. Sometimes he's a bit
of the crazy uncle, I think, But even when he's
I think there's a difference when putting aside, you know,
how focused he is on the game. My sense always
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when Charles is critical, it is a little bit like
your uncle at the Thanksgiving table being critical. It's like
there's no doubt it comes from a place of love.
You know. I don't feel the same way about some
of the other commentators, and I think it's just it's
you know, Charles found a lane and he does it well,
and it'll be interesting to see how that converts. As
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you know, they're now bringing that studio show to ESPN
and ABC next year. Yeah, I think, you know, we'll
see how that works out. I mean, I you know,
I love the fact that those guys are still going
to be involved in our telecast, but you know, I'm
not sure whether it will be produced differently for them,
or there be a different expectation from ESPN and ABC
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fans or watchers that maybe what people are seeing late
at night on TNT.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
He's the Commissioner of the NBA, Adam Silver. You know,
everybody gets caught up in ratings and I just say,
either watch it or not. You know, but the role
that social media plays on your priority list because this
is a global game and people may not watch the game,
but they're watching those clips. You know, you're getting views there.
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But as the commissioner, you got to, you know, pay
homage to the networks. But where does social media rank
on your priority list?
Speaker 8 (24:42):
Social media is high on our priority list. I mean,
first of all, we've had something like a billion view
so far globally on social media since the finals have started.
But also to get back to your ratings point, I
think what gets lost sometimes is just like social media
is global, so are the telc of our games. And
I understand people wanting to talk about our domestic ratings
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and the extent that the ratings are down, that's a storyline.
Or they're up, there's a storyline. And there is a
correlation between market size more than I'm happy about.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
You know.
Speaker 8 (25:17):
I was listening to Aaron Rodgers yesterday and he was
talking about now becoming a stealer and he was saying,
now I've played for two of the most storied franchises,
the Packers and the Steelers, but nobody stopped them to say, oh,
those are small markets. And so maybe I'm jealous in
a way from the NFL that that's never you know,
Steelers and Packers. The storyline is, it's unimaginable. It would
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be can you believe two small markets they're meeting in
the Super Bowl this year it's two storied franchises. And
in the NBA, I think because there was so much
outside success of certain franchises over the first several decades
of the league. I mean, the statistic is roughly over
the first sixty five years of the league, three teams
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won sixty percent of the champion hips. And so it's
understandable that Lakers Celtics Bowls still globally have these huge
followings because it gets almost passed on generationally. And to
make ourselves more like the NFL, I think we're moving
in that direction where we have a system now where
Oklahoma City and the Indianapolis can compete in the same
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way that larger markets can because of a cap system
and tax and all that stuff. So it's going to
take us a while to get there, but I understand
why ratings are part of the story. Now the last
part I'll say about social media. I do think something
we're thinking a lot more about and getting more sophisticated about,
is how do you translate social media into a desire
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to watch live games. I'll give you just one example.
I think we may even talked about it last time
I was on Victor wembin Yama was in New York
playing on Christmas and then played in Brooklyn a few
days later, so he was staying in New York around
that time. He's a chess player to Washington Square Park
play chess in the rain for forty five minutes. Within
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five days, one hundred million people had viewed him playing chess.
And it was just anecdotally. Anyone I would ask, because
it was also on a lot of the morning shows.
I said, do you see Victory, Oh yeah, that was
the guy from France he played. Now the question is
seeing that he also plays chess, and he's by definition
you could say, a multi dimensional guy. There's far more
to him than ball playing. He speaks multiple languages, even
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the fact that he's you know, grew up outside of Paris,
et cetera. How do we as the league use that
to bring people to the set to watch live games,
because I would say, looking back, we've gotten distracted at
times and forgotten sort of, or I've forgotten that My
core responsibility is to get more people to be passionate
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about NBA basketball and watch our games. That's what sustains
our business. I mean, of course ticket sales, but ticket
sales are as high as they've been in the history
of the league, and there's not a lot more room
to grow because our buildings are roughly ninety five percent full.
We have a global following, so there's enormous opportunity both
through social media, but where the real value comes is
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from people watching live games. So I think we can
do a better job using social media to bring people
to the set to say, tonight eight thirty ABC, you know,
game three, tune in. And to be more sophisticated about
understanding is it would people rather see more about Shay Gilgess,
Alexander's background, growing up in Canada, et cetera. What are
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the things he loves or do they want to see him,
you know, working out what aspects of him are going
to cause people to be more likely to be interested
in watching the game.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Tonight why does the All Star Game have to be competitive?
Speaker 8 (28:51):
It's an interesting question because again I was just talking
about how how jealousyam of aspects of the NFL. The
Pro Bowl at this point is flag football, and I
think that fans that seem to accept that it gets
a good rating, and nobody suggests that that's indicative of
a lack of desire or passion by NFL players for
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whatever reason. In the case in the NBA, when we've
tried other things and thought, all right, we'll go more
entertainment route or whatever else, the reaction is, I can't
believe your players aren't giving their all for an All
Star Game, or at least maybe they don't expect them
to play like they would in the playoffs. But they're
expecting a competitive game, and so that's fair. Then we
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have to respond to that, and I haven't been successful, frankly,
in the last few years. We tried some new things
in San Francisco. I mean, part of it was there
was a format issue. There was a huge stoppage of
play in the final. You know, we had this round
robin where you know, there was a celebration around Turner,
which they deserve. But I think the game lost to
aut momentum. So something you've talked a lot about historically
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is this USA World concept. And obviously so I watch
what other sports are doing. The NHL had great success
with the four nation face off, so we're looking now
for next year. We'll be in LA we'll be into
a dome where the Olympics are going to take place
in twenty eight and we're going to be on NBC
back to NBC for the All Star Game, and we're
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going to be smack in the middle of winter Olympic coverage.
So ever a time to move to USA World, it's now.
What we're toying with now and working with Andrea Gudala
at the Players Association, is what's the right format because
I don't I think straight up USA World probably won't
work because although the number of international players is growing
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and its roughly thirty percent of our league right now,
it wouldn't be fair to pick the All Star seventy
percent as one team thirty percent of the other. So
I think we're again playing off what the NHL did.
Maybe there's there's multiple teams, maybe there's more than one
USA team, but we can achieve that concept, and I
think create a sense of nationalism around it, and again
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feel like we belong sort of on the Sunday where
it's otherwise Olympic coverage. So I'm hopeful that we can
create something more competitive there.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Do you have your wish list of expansion like the
cities right now.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
There's cities we're thinking about.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
How many cities would you say are on that wish list?
Speaker 8 (31:18):
Well, let me begin by saying it it's not obvious
to me we should expand. I think it's likely over
time we will. And the reason I say it's not
obvious is because as a global business, you know where
something like two billion people will connect with us on
social media, over a billion people over the course of
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the year, we'll watch some portion of the game. Adding
another US city, arguably, it's unclear how much growth will
get as a result of that. And when you're adding
expansion franchises, you're diluting their competition two more Let's say
we expand my two teams, two more teams that you
know are going to be competing for those same players,
(31:59):
and you're diluting your economics the extent we have locked
in television money now for the next decade, you have
two more partners. Having said that, I do believe certain
markets potentially can be additive to the NBA, and that's
what we're going to look at. And I think part
of it is geographic. It's a big country, you know,
making sure we're represented, you know, all around the country.
(32:20):
And then over time, maybe there's more we can do
in Canada. And Mexico City is a city we've talked
about before. You know, I don't want to say specific
cities today, just because many have reached out to us
to say they're interested and I and our reaction so
far has been thank you for your interest. We haven't
taken any meetings with any cities. We have a board
(32:41):
meeting in Las Vegas around the Summer League in July.
I know we're going to be talking about it. Then.
I had been saying for the last several years, let
us get through collective bargaining, which we did, let us
figure out our new media relationships, which we have, and
that would be the time to consider it seriously. So
that's what we're going to do this summer.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
But I'm retiring in three years, Commissioner will is what
I'm retiring in three years. Will we have expansion in
three years.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
I'm honestly not sure. I okay, I whether if, even
if we were to announce, we're engaged in a process.
It's not clear to me at what moment they would
start playing. But look this, I don't mean to tease
people with this. This is the summer. We're gonna look
at it. Seriously.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I thought you'd be a little more emotional about my retirement.
I mean, it's kind of blue right past that.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
You're like Michael Jortan, you've retired before.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I'm not coming real yet, I'm not coming. I'm not
gonna play baseball. Just gonna let you know. I'm not
gonna let you. But hey, thanks for joining us. Have
fun tonight and thanks again.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Yeah thanks Dan.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
That's Adam Silver, NBA Commissioner.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 2 (33:54):
App final hour. In this Meet Friday Dan and the
Dan Edge Dan Patrick Show Festive Show, we unveiled the gong.
Finally got that big German ordered it for me, and
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(34:17):
and Peacock and they're at Oakmont Country Club and it
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You can see this show on peacock. Thank you for
downloading the app. And the final hour of the program.
It is a meet Friday. We have clams casino, we
have Friday artichokes, we have vodka, sauce, lasagna, and we
have a little pesto as well. Who has it better
(34:40):
than we do? No nobody pull question? Final hour the
program seat and at least final hour on this Friday.
Speaker 11 (34:49):
How superstitious are you? Have a hard time saying superstitious, extremely,
a little, not at all. Seventy four percent.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Are a little.
Speaker 11 (34:57):
In Friday the thirteenth, I wonder way you be a
little and not extremely.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Maybe it's little things that you're superstitious. Superstitious?
Speaker 12 (35:08):
Yes, can you be sportsstitious and not superstitious? Like I
wouldn't be bothered if I broke a mirror or walked
under a ladder, wouldn't bother me at all. But if
a team I love is playing well and I'm sitting
in a certain seat in my house, I'm staying in
that seat. Yeah, and vice versa.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Yes, so that's sports.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I guess it's superstitious. Yes, yeah, I would think so. Yeah.
What else do you have? Seaton? Uh?
Speaker 11 (35:34):
We also put up there. This one is very much
about Todd Fritz. Would you rather be physically fragile or
mentally disturbed? It's one or the other. I'm surprised that
so many people, I'm not sure why I'm surprised about this,
but that so many people are choosing physically fragile rather
(35:56):
than mentally disturbed.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I don't think anybody wants to be disturbed.
Speaker 11 (36:00):
It could be mentally disturbed, but that means that you're
super fit. How about your crazy ending good shame? Or
you can be have all of your mental faculties that
are perfectly intact, but you're very fragile.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Physically, What about mentally physical or mentally or physically soft?
How about if we just did that, it could be
mentally soft or physically soft, and what it would people
say about that? Any other poll questions for the final
hour this week, we can update that if you'd like,
we can all right, would you rather be mentally soft
(36:33):
or physically soft? Okay, Todd might be both eight seven
seven three DP show email address dp at Danpatrick dot com,
Twitter handle a tp show Nick and Irvine. Hi Nick,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (36:49):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 6 (36:50):
I got three comments for you. First of all, back
in the eighties, when you could go to a Hollywood
park for horse racing and there's thirty thousand, forty thousand people,
I was into the ponies, and I was on a
bad streak, and I was trying everything. I'll never forget
my dad when I told him what was going on,
and you know, I was trying to put together numbers
(37:12):
and trying to, you know, do all these different things.
And he said, and he looked me right now, the
most earnest thing he ever said, and he said, Son,
don't forget these two pieces of advice. Number one, it
is bad luck to be superstitious, and number two, never
bet on a horse that eats. And ever since then,
I have never lost again at the track. I want
(37:34):
to tell you about my trigger grilled. It is true
that you can you can adjust the trigger grill with
your phone. It's an incredible feature. But Todd, I think
you would like this. You can it's a little known fact.
You can also call the trigger grill and you can
talk to each individual Patty or Chicken wing or whatever.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
And thank you. You have Thunder Pacers Game four, Okay,
see you favor by six. The Oilers came back. They
were down three to nothing and then they went five
to four and overtime. And this is how the game
winner sounded breaking free is.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Try shuddle to the deck side.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Leyon try suddle Christ time.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
This series what a fourth hot winner of.
Speaker 11 (38:22):
The playoffs Final star Edmitten five Florida four and.
Speaker 13 (38:31):
Over.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
The man on the call, Jack Michaels, Edmondton Oiler's radio
play by playboys, how's the throat today? Jack Dan?
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I'm okay, you know what I And I don't know
whether that triggered you, because nineteen years ago you and
Keith were doing Homer Call the Week and you had
me on twice in two weeks, Alaskan Vegas and Alaskan Fresno.
And I remember you being fascinated with it being the
East Coast Hockey, you know, championship series involving Alaska and Fresno.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Great to have you back. You had a great seat
for this. With your team down three to nothing, what
were you thinking?
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Well, to be honest with you, that's where the Oilers
seem to thrive. I don't know what it is, but
this club is not content with prosperity. It loves to
dig itself a hole. Whether it's early in the season
they started zero to three this year, two nine and
one last year, or whether it's in early in games.
And you just had a feeling that if Edmonton got won,
(39:37):
the momentum con turn in a hurry. We've got two
great teams, Dan, I would say through four finals, this
Stanley Cup Final is shaping up is the best in
the history of the sport. And I honestly don't you
know that's not an exaggeration. These two teams are clearly
the best in the National Hockey League. They found an
extra year, and you know Florida is a worthy champion.
(40:00):
This is now a best of three with two on
Edmonton's tall ice. But I don't think anyone can be
called a favorite. Not right now. We've had the two
latest game time goals in the history of the final
a week apart.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Also, when we talked about this last week, how important
is the Cup to Canada? We know it's important to Edmonton,
is Canada rooting for Edmonton.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Well, I think for years. I think for years Edmonton
has been kind of everyone's second favorite team.
Speaker 9 (40:32):
Is you know, passionate fan bases exist in you know,
Toronto and you know, so, I don't know whether the
Leafs are more of a polarizing figure than some of
the other clubs. Edmonton is more you know, I mean Preston, right,
if no one really hates you, or except maybe.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Those who reside in Calgary. Right, It's a bit of
a national team for Patrison in the sense that when
you live in Canada, there's no.
Speaker 9 (41:04):
Middle round with the Tonnamically, Edmondson is a little bit
different in the.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Sense, well, you know, I can live with Edmonson winning
the Cup. I can't live with Lae winning the cuff.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
When you go to overtime, you know that the game
is on somebody's stick there as the play by play voice.
How do you approach that knowing that it can end
very quickly?
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Absolutely, no divergence, no tangents, no you know thoughts that
come to mind. Just button it up and call the game.
And you have to do that.
Speaker 9 (41:41):
Really with Conor McDavid anyway, I as you can probably
tell them thrown the gab.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
I need to button it up all the game because
they could end at any moment. And as you saw,
I mean Leon Dresser one handed shot that gets a
carab off a kneecap and goes five hole on Bbroski.
Not your typical you know, ot winner.
Speaker 9 (42:01):
You just have to be ready and you can't again
go off on some random spot from nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
You are a professional at doing this. We just heard
your call with the game winning goal in overtime, Seaton O'Connor,
who works on my show, We love Leon Dry title.
We only bring his name up in June, but you
know he's always uh scoring big goals. I want you
to grade Seaton's call of Leon Dry Sidle's game winner
(42:32):
last night.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
How you know, I guess what I say is I
need a little crowd noise. It's not completely Oh you
got a little bit of a phone bowl situation. The
good thing is his voice not cracked. I will say that.
You know he didn't sound like a guy clicks around
a left.
Speaker 9 (43:00):
So that's the start.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
And you know you play by play guys in hockey,
it's like you're trying to cram words in and then
all of a sudden. It just is all kind of
jumbled and then it's try Sidda in over time.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
That's why I went to the overtime call the way
I did. I figure that was one word that everyone
would understand.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah. Hey, great to talk to you again, and good
luck with this next game on Saturday. Thank you, Jack, Dan, I.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Really appreciate you having me on, And Keith says below.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Jack Michaels Edmondton owner's radio play by play voice, also
does TV as well. Fifteen years doing radio. Yeah, we
had him on for Homer Call of the Week nineteen
years ago and Keith Oberman has stayed in touch with him.
That was the all hour two Yeah, in the middle
of the Yeah, yeah, a radio show. The Homer Call
(44:02):
of the Week was fun. Homer Call the Week was fun.
Brought to you by James in New Mexico. Hi James,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 13 (44:11):
Thanks for taking the call. So I'm part of your
younger demographic and an NBA casualist, I guess I would say,
And I was curious, so, you know, not knowing too
much about the past eras of players who would be
the comps to today's game. It could be like play style,
but it's hard because there's two different games. But like
(44:32):
who they were in the media, Like who is who
was Barkley then today? And I guess obviously want to
be Jordan Lebron, but like try to educate myself more
on who they were to the game and like in
the media back then to today's game.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Some comps there, Huh. I don't think there aren't comps
for those three. I mean Charles was unique. I mean
he's more unique now. But as a player, you're just
you couldn't believe that somebody who's six' five is going
Against shaq and wasn't afraid Of.
Speaker 8 (45:02):
Shack.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Jordan you're watching and you're going, That i've never seen
anybody like. That and then Even, lebron somebody that, big
who's able to do all of these things because we
thought we saw that with. Magic now you're Seeing lebron
do that but also be a great scorer and now
forty thousand points. Later THAT i think a lot of
times we try to do those. Comparisons you, know that
(45:26):
guy reminds me of there's so many unique great athletes
that there aren't comps every white player who can, shoot you,
know he kind of reminds me Of Larry. Bird, no,
no he doesn't anybody who's six's nine at point. Guard you,
know he reminds me Of magic just because he's six'.
(45:46):
Nine sga you're hearing the, you know he's Kinda Like.
Michael jordan no. He's, not no he's a, great scorer.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
But He's Not.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Michael jordan it's just.
Speaker 8 (45:59):
Different.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Style points jordan gave, You that barkley gave you. That lebron,
you know there's Nobody Like, steph curry, no one and you, can,
say oh you know it kind of reminds Me Of.
Steph Curry caitlin clark might remind You Of. Steph curry
that's the closest COMP that i. Would have but, You Know,
(46:21):
Klay thompson i've never seen somebody so economical at his
peak of not needing a dribble and that famous game
where he had like nine dribbles the. Entire, Game yeah
marvin respect, his handle he had. Eleven dribbles so. Eleven, Dribbles,
okay yeah he's not beating you off. The dribble, you
(46:43):
Know if i'm, GUARDING him i know he's not going
to beat me off, the dribble but he is if
you let, him shoot and he's. Making it and that's
another one of those guys when you're watching guys who
were in college and then, you, go wow that guy's
going to be. A pro he's going to, be great
and then he doesn't, become that and then you see
somebody else and, you, go, oh man he Went To.
(47:06):
WASHINGTON state i REMEMBER what i Remember Watching washington state
and the only REASON why I Remember klay thompson is
because of, His, father MICHAEL who i know that. WAS
it i Remember Watching gary Payton at OREGON and, i
said that guy's going to be a. Great pro But
Then brent barry is on. That team and if you
(47:26):
would have, said, that dude there's going to win the slam,
Dunk contest i'd, be. Like huh you see these guys
and then you don't. Envision Them steve Nash At SANTA
clara i WATCHED and i, was like this little guy
with a bad haircut and he. Is entertaining never would
have thought anything other. Than that that's why when you had,
(47:47):
these scouts when, they, go hey we're taking, this guy and, you,
go man who? Saw that or when you have scouts and,
they go we're taking, this guy and, you go what
did you see in? That guy what did you See
in Michael oloa Can Or anthony bennett or some of these,
Other players and, you're, like, Huh, Yes, Martin Yeah klay
thompson his. FIRST team i did not see.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
That Coming donovan mitchell was another guy where it was
like the undersize got Out, of louisville.
Speaker 8 (48:14):
Then, you, know wow they picked him.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Pretty. HIGH yeah i, did not not saying they weren't
very good, college PLAYERS but i didn't.
Speaker 8 (48:20):
EXPECT this i.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Don't Even Remember Donovan mitchell louisville because it felt like
all of their guards were like six. To one but
they were an. Unbelievable team
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