June 28, 2025 • 44 mins
Dan Patrick talks about the 2025 NBA Champion Oklahoma City Thunder, how they could or could not form the next great NBA dynasty, Tyrese Haliburton's unfortunate injury in Game 7. Dan weighs in on Aaron Rodgers saying this is probably his last season and wonders if it might be Steelers HC Mike Tomlin’s last as well. Dan reacts to the first round of the NBA Draft as the Dallas Mavericks select Cooper Flagg with the first overall pick. Plus, Dan and the Danettes discuss the tradition of wearing your team’s hat after being drafted and the many ways that can get awkward. And Seattle Mariners catcher and current MLB HR leader, Cal Raleigh discusses his nickname, “The Big Dumper,” and the challenges of playing the position.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Congratulations to the Oklahoma City Thunder, the best regular season team,
the best postseason team. But the Pacers held on for
dear life. They pushed it to seven games, but the
Tyres Haliburton injury was tough to overcome.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
We talked about it when he injured.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
His calf, and you'll see this that the calf injury
and the possibility of an achilles injury.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
We talked about that last week.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Unfortunately it came to fruition and you couldn't help but
think of Kevin Durant when he got off to a
hot start and then he blew out his achilles a
few years ago. But Tyrese Haliburton will remember an incredible
postseason run. Also, Shay gilgis Alexander not many. This is
rarefied air. When you put him in there with Michael
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and Shack. When you're going to be the regular season
MVP scoring champ, you're going to win an NBA title
Finals MVP, and he did it in an effortless way.
He did it in an old school way. Now I
say old school because he doesn't rely on the three
point shot. He'll beach off the dribble. He's capable of
scoring on three different levels, but he was efficiently brilliant
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in the NBA Finals. We'll get to your phone calls,
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TP show. Chris Mannix from Sports Illustrated will join us
from Oklahoma City, Gilbert Arena's former NBA All Star.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
We'll join us.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
We'll talk about the Kevin Durant trade that happened yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
We have a play the day poll question. Stat of
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Speaker 4 (02:07):
Question for hour one is going to be what well,
I've got something that could be considered a sign of
the apocalypse or just very bad news for two people here. Okay,
Paul and Todd have both submitted the same pole question. O, man,
what happened to Paul?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
That's right?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Is Todd coming up? Or is Paul going down? I
can't really tell.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
What's the possibility of both questions being good?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
That's for you to decide. All right, the NBA Finals
was memorable for dot dot dot.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Well, let's see Paul's options. Where the first title of
this young OKC team, SGA cementing himself as a superstar,
piecers fight Halliburton's injury or nothing or nothing yes, Todd's
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suggestions where the sitter the Oklahoma City winning their first
ever title, SGA being named the MVP, Halliburton's injury, or
Kevin Durant getting traded to this from the Suns to
the Rockets.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Hmm, with no local ties. I would say tyrese Haliburton's injury.
I think his playoff performance leading into the NBA Finals
and he gave them hope. SGA was you know, brilliant,
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and he also had a you know, a Game seven
that we haven't had in a long time, you know,
twenty nine and twelve assists. First player to reach those
numbers in game seven of an NBA Finals you have
to go back to nineteen seventy when Wald Fraser went
for thirty six and nineteen. I just think the injury
with hallib because of all the big shots that he
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had leading into the finals, that he gave them hope
and hope went down and didn't get back up last night.
So I would say in ten years from now, let's
let's put it that way. How about we put a
window on this. Ten years from now, when we look
back on this year's NBA Finals, it's probably going to
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be Tyrese Haliburton will remember because of the injury, how
they had played. They forced a game seven. Okay, see
was the best team. But I think I think what
the Pacers did created more headline conversation than what Oklahoma
City did.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yes, I think how we remember this finals is dependent
on how both of these teams do the next three years.
If we go right back to after after this year,
If next year we go back to some sort of
like return cycle of you know, Warriors, Lakers, Celtics, uh,
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you know, whoever win, then don't I don't know what
we're going to really remember from this one. But if
if the Pacers go on to be greater, the thunder
going to keep being greater, it's going to shape how
this one is remembered.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
But also keep in mind Tyree's Haliburton will probably be
out all next year, so you know his impact is
going to be felt next year because he won't be
able to play. Jason Tatum not able to play for
the Celtics next year probably not, so factor those in
and how that shapes the East because the East is
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really really wide open now, and we don't even know
if Jannis is going to stay in Milwaukee, like all
of a sudden, Orlando, the Cavaliers, obviously Garland's having toe surgery,
but they would be the favorites. The Knicks, you know,
once again, would be in the in the in the
conversation there. But if you don't have Tatum and you
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don't have Hallow, and those are the best players on
the on the best teams right now, east is wide open.
That's where Yannis might go. Maybe can you help me
out a little bit here, can you give me something
here in Milwaukee. But we'll talk to Chris Mannix about
this because I think Mannix gets the feeling that Jannis,
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if he's going anywhere, would end up in San Antonio.
But Kevin Durant ending up with Houston. You know that
Cleveland was in this. I'm told at the last minute,
like there were teams going, hey, we know you got
to trade him. What's it going to take? And I
think the Knicks made another run out. Everybody was kind
of like circling it was. It was a open secret
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that Durant was going to be traded, and the question
was where's he going to be traded? And it was
going to be this week because the draft is coming
up on Wednesday night.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
But we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
With Durant being traded and Houston I thought did pretty well.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Here.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You can look at the draft pick. I don't look
at the draft picks the way I used to because
it just feels like, eh, and we'll give you a
I don't know how many second round picks you want?
You want four, you want five, go ahead, take whatever
you want. And Jalen Green, it's weird to be what
is he twenty three? And he averaged you know, over
I think he might have averaged twenty three points a game.
He didn't do well in the postseason, and I think
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there was concern with Houston that maybe he is not
that number one guy. Phoenix Suns are a mess. They
really are, and they you know, it's not just one year.
I mean they've been consistent in being a mess because
you get Bradley Beal. I can only warn these owners
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in GMS so often. If they're not going to listen
to me, then it's on them. Get a new owner.
Matt Ishbia, former walk on at Michigan State. All of
a sudden, you start making decisions. You bring in Durant.
You gave up a lot to get durand Devin Booker.
I don't are you building around Devin Booker? Like it
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feels like who is anybody going to pass the ball
on that team? Bradley Beal, Devin Booker and Jalen Green.
I don't like that. I don't like that at all.
But when I saw it, I go all right. Durant
goes to Houston. I like the roster. Yma Udoka, the
head coach, just got a contract extension.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
It's a young team, but now you have a closer.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Now you got a guy can go get you a
bucket and that's going to make them extremely dangerous. It's
a young team, aggressive team, good defensive team. And now
you got a guy crunch time who can get you
a bucket. Now, granted he's thirty seven, but his game
is not really predicated on jumping high or moving fast.
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It just feels like he gets to spots and he
will kill you. But from the perspective of the Rockets,
I like what they did because it's now. Now they're
trying to win a championship where Phoenix, Phoenix is going
to have to take the wrecking ball, and I can
you can't trade Bradley bial Imagine Lebron and Bradley be
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are the two guys who don't have no trade glasses.
So yeah, you have Bradley Beal and Devin Booker and
Jalen Green and I don't know the ghost of Steve
Nash there, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
The crazy part is the Sons were in the finals
in twenty twenty nine. No, I know how things change
so fast? What a young Devin Booker. If you're thinking
when they got to the finals, oh, we'll be back.
That's the scariest part about getting to the finals. You
don't know which way it's going to go.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
You know, I brought up this calf issue thing because
Dame Lillard and Jason Tatum both told Gilbert Arenas that
they had calf injuries before they told their tour their achilles,
and that's what happened with Tyres Halliburton. And that's why
I wondered, can you put him out there? I know
he wants to be out there, but you have he
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has to know that there is a risk that you're
gonna tear your achilles.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Tatum and Dame Lillard both had.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Cap injuries and then they tore their achilles, and that's
what happened with Tyree's Haliburton. Also, don't wear the number zero.
Dame Lillard zero, Jason Tatum zero, Tyre's Halliburton zero. Yikes,
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who else is wearing zero? We got to give them
a heads up.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Christian Brown, be careful. Well, okay if he wears zero? Sure?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
All righty, So the poll question, what are we going
to remember seeing any other pole question for the first
hour of the program.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Uh, yeah, we got one more here for you. Okay.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Bigger mistake trading SGA trading the Sonics.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Well, that owner wanted to move them to Okay, cyah,
So I get that, But you.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Go back to when Shay Gilgis was traded now Sam
Presty Oklahoma City. GM insisted that SGA was going to
be in the deal, and I think the Clippers were
trying to hold on to him. He finished sixth in
the Rookie of the Year ballot, and he averaged only
twelve points a game. Anybody who said, well I saw this,
I think he might be lying, because that felt like,
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all right, you take Paul George, take his contract.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
What are you going to give us in return?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And they had accumulated so many draft picks there in
Oklahoma City, and all of a sudden, you know, I
watched Shay Gilgis at Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I can't tell you.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I remember one play that he had kind of like
the way he plays now where you go, all right,
I think I can score. I mean, he was just
another Kentucky player. He can score, Okay, can get to
the loop. I didn't think, oh my god, that guy's
going to be He's going to do something that is
in rarefied air with Kareem and Shaq and Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Imagine you're on that list. And he did it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I don't think anybody saw that coming, that he would
be this great. But this, you know, this has been
a process, like five six years to get to this point.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Remember chat Holmgren.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
As soon as they got him, he got hurt in
that summer All Star Game that he was playing in.
He's had a hip injury. He's obviously injury prone here.
But you're getting guys, and you're going, Okay, nobody wants
Alex Caruso. We'll take him. Lou Dort who Jalen Williams who?
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I mean, come on, guy, went to Santa Clara. That's
where you look at scouting. That's where you look at
what you do, and you know down in the lab
and that's what OKA see has done a wonderful job.
And it starts with Sam Presty. I think he took over.
He was twenty eight years of age when he was
a GM and now what is he forty seven? Still
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young for that job. But you know, this is why
when we talk about the Lakers that you get new ownership.
Now you can't go out and just buy whoever you want,
but they're going to help the infrastructure of the Lakers scouting.
I mean that that's where you beef up and you know,
that's what OKAC has done. It did a wonderful john
and should be commended for finding those players who do
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fit in.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
The key for OKC as we move forward is Shay
Gilgess is probably going to get a contract that's going
to pay him eighty million dollars a year. Just start
there now. Is Chad Homern going to take less? Is
Jalen Williams going to Is anybody taking less to stay
together to win a championship. As a former NBA champion
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once told me, once I got my ring, I wanted
my money. That's what happens. I got my ring, now
I want my money. Look at what happened with the Nuggets.
Those guys bench players. They got their ring, then they
wanted their money. It's in natural evolution. When you're trying
to keep these teams together, that's what you have to
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have in place. Is there a commonality that hey, let's
do that, Let's continue to do this. We're having fun,
we're the best team, we're young, we have plenty of
time to make plenty of money. It sounds altruistic, but
it doesn't happen that way. Guys are gonna leave. Guys
are gonna want their money. I understand it. Natural evolution.
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In case you missed it, the Pat McAfee Show, Aaron
Rodgers talked about his future with the Steelers and the NFL.
Speaker 9 (15:34):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is it. You know, that's
why we just did a one year deal. You know,
this was really about finishing with a lot of love
and fun and peace for the career that I've had.
I've played twenty freaking years like it's been a long,
long run.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
I've enjoyed it.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
And what better place to finish than in one of
the cornerstone franchises of the NFL, with Mike Tomlin and
a great group of leadership and great guys in the
city that expects expects you to win.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I don't have any problem with this. I mean the
Rogers news I rarely react to. Thought he was going
to go to the Steelers. Thought he was going to
wait as long as he could. Didn't know that he
got married. Maybe that was the reason why he wasn't
showing up. You want to do a victory tour, great,
I have no problem with that. Steelers, I'm sure would
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want to know this that this doesn't become a week sixteen,
week seventeen?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Are you coming back? Are you coming back?
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Now?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
It's still going to happen. Let's say Aaron Rodgers plays great.
Let's say the Steelers maybe a number two seed, number
three seed. Let's say they overachieve. Let's say they have
home field advantage first round of the playoffs. You're going
to ask that question. You're going to ask that question,
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and he might give you a different answer. He might say,
I love it here, I love playing for Mike Timlin.
I love my offense. You know, I'd love to run
it back one more time. I wouldn't rule it out,
certainly with Aaron Rodgers, but he's earned the right. You
want to have a victory tour? Great, Yeah, Marvin, how far.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Do you the stealers need to go before? If you're
Mike Tomlin or if your management say hey, Aaron, do
you want to give it one more go?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I would say, well, how about you do something you
haven't done a long time, win a playoff game? If
you would win two playoff games, then all of a sudden,
I don't think it's a foregone conclusion. Aaron walks away,
But it's Aaron Rodgers, and you just don't know. I mean,
I covered I'm friends with one of the great mysterious
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athletes in sports history, and Barry Sanders, and I'm working
Sports Center on a Sunday night the Lions just lost
end of their season, and his agent, Peter Shaeffer calls
me and says, you can't say anything, but and I
went don't do this to me. Barry is on a
plane to London. He's going to retire out of nowhere.
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So is Aaron mysterious like that? No, but there is
mystery attached to him. You know, Barry's most unique athlete
I ever covered. You know, frugal, you know, he ran
to make highlights, but his personality wasn't that way. His
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personality was three yards, but his running style was sixty yards,
making you know, seven guys miss. But with Aaron Rodgers,
you know he wants to play this year, and that's
it great. I you know, bigger picture, more important to
me is Mike Tomlin. Because Mike Tomlin and the Steelers
signed up for one year. They had to know that
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it was one year, and he gave him a bargain price.
Now you're back in the quarterback wishing well again. And
this is what I wonder, do you want him for
one year or are you going to try to And
maybe they didn't like these quarterbacks, Maybe they didn't like
Jackson Dart, maybe they didn't like Shud or Sanders or
any of these other quarterbacks. But you're back in the
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mix again. And if you're still looking for a quarterback,
man are you behind a lot of teams, all of
these teams that we talk about, what do they have
in common? Very good, if not great quarterback Steelers? Are
we going to go through the Mason Rudolph Hey, you
know what he learned a lot from Aaron Rodgers or
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Will Howard. I mean, you're going against Lamar Jackson and
you're going against Joe Burrow in your own division.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
So it's one year. So that's why I wonder, is
Mike Tomlin one more year? And look, I know, the
national perspective on Mike Tomlin is a whole lot different
than the local because this is a team, this is
a franchise, this is a fan base expects to win,
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not a playoff game, compete for championships. And I wonder
if if they go out like they don't win another
they don't want a playoff game, you know, then you
start to look at this and say, do we need
a change? And I wonder with Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin,
maybe they go out same time.
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Speaker 2 (20:39):
Couple of surprises. But really this is kind of the
let's reintroduce or maybe introduce you to some of the
players who might be playing some minutes in the NBA
next season. I'm going to throw out a couple of names,
and then you tell me if you can guess where
I'm going and maybe even recognize them.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
If I said bub Carrington.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Or I said Jalen Wells, Eve's Missy, where are we gone?
I'm talking about NBA players who were rookies last year.
Bub Carrington played the most minutes of any rookie last year.
He was drafted fourteenth by the Wizards. Jalen Wells second
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most minutes. He was drafted thirty ninth by the Grizzlies.
Eves Missy, who played for the Pelicans, drafted twenty first.
He was fourth on the list. Stefan Cassel third on
the list. He was drafted fourth overall by the Spurs.
So what am I getting at? You can be drafted high,
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you can be drafted in the lottery. That doesn't mean
you're going to have those kind of minutes. I think
we feel like, you know, the old days, when you're
drafted in the first ten picks, fifteen picks you're playing
right away. Reed Shepherd did not play for the Rockets
last year and I played five hundred minutes, but he
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was a G League player.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
He was the third pick.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Overall, you're drafting players and it's almost like you're drafting
them they're going to be on your roster, but it's
not like it's sort of like baseball where they draft
and then you disappear for a couple of years and
then you come back.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
You know, you go to the minor leagues.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
These players are kind of there or maybe in the
G League and then they might contribute. Now, do I
think Dylan Harper is going to play significant minutes for
the Spurs?
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Is Cooper Flagg going to play significant minutes for the
Dallas Mavericks?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I do Ace Bailey.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
In Utah VJ Edgecombe. I don't know how much he's
going to play for the seventy six ers. They already
have their guards there. So you're trying to figure this
out of Okay, you drafted a guy, what's that mean
for our team right away? How many of these guys
will have a true impact? And you're gonna have some
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projects here and you might have a guy who plays
for a team who then gets traded and then becomes
something in two or three or four years. Because you're
drafting eighteen year olds nineteen year olds in college baseball,
they're at least twenty two to twenty three, so it's different.
But it'd be like taking an eighteen year old high
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school phenom in baseball. He's not going to the majors,
he's going to the miners. Well, you're gonna get guys
who are going to play sparingly with a lot of
these first round picks, if they even make the team.
If I said to Monte Kamara, he led in minutes
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the previous year for the Portland Trailblazers Keyante George, he
had the second most minutes in the previous draft. He
was sixth sixteenth overall. So there's no sure things. I mean,
do I expect Ace Bailey to be a good player,
I guess. But the situation you're in really dictates how
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quickly you become successful. If you go to a bad roster,
a bad organization, it's already an uphill battle you're going in.
You're going to be a rookie, you're just trying to survive.
Now you're on a team with a bunch of knuckleheads,
and you've got to you know the history. It's systemic
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of how bad you are, and there's a reason why
those organizations stay bad. They're not relevant. Danny Ainge didn't
care that As Bailey didn't want to go to Utah.
Danny Inge said, all right, we'll take you. You don't
want to go to Philly or Charlotte. He didn't want
to go to Utah. He wanted to go to Brooklyn,
and he wanted to go to Washington because he wants
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to be a star right away. I want my shots.
I want to play right away. If I go to
Charlotte and Lamelow, ball is going to be dominating. You know,
he's ball dominant there. Doesn't want to go to the Sixers. Okay,
they're kind of a mess. Didn't want to go to Utah,
and Danny Ainge said, I'm sorry, but I'm still going.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
To take you. And got a lot of talent.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
But I don't know if I don't know if this
strategy worked that he didn't want to work out for
certain teams, didn't want to go to Charlotte, didn't want
to go to the seventy six ers, He's too talented
to have dropped too far, and I think he was
hoping that he was going to drop maybe a couple
more picks, at least one more pick. He wanted to
go to the Pelicans. So this strategy didn't work. You
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ended up in Utah. But Dallas did well, obviously getting
Cooper Flag, who can now ease in two minutes if
he played for another organization. You're like, all right, we're
coming out and see Cooper Flag. Well, you're going to
go out and see the Mavericks with Cooper Flag. There's
a big difference. And we're going to go see Cooper
Flag and the Nets, and I think the expectation level
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will be very beneficial. Carmelo Anthony, former number one overall pick,
now an analyst for NBC with their NBA coverage, had
this to say about Cooper Flag.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
To me, he doesn't do anything great. He just do
a lot of very good. You know what I'm saying.
He offensive rebound very good. He in the passing lanes
very good. He's a weak side defender, very good on
ball defender, he got a lot better.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I want to see him against you.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
I want to see him against Kad.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I want to see him against Luca.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
I want to see him against ann Elwis because you
coming in as that guy. If he gotta develop the
right way, he got to get a skill set. You
can't be in the pros and don't.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Have a skill set.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
So you have to have a skill set, like your
skill set have to be something a wonder.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Full of, like something floater like.
Speaker 8 (26:50):
You have to have.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Something that you'll go to.
Speaker 8 (26:52):
Right now, he don't have a go to.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
That's Carmelo on Podcast P with Paul George discussing Cooper Flag.
You know, I disagree with them of you know, what's
his bag? You can be a really good all around player.
There's value in that. They're looking at this from an
offensive perspective, so it's a myopic view of he's got
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to have.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
A signature move.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Well, he's eighteen, and I think his signature move is
he doesn't have a signature move. He's got a variety
of things. He's not going to be one dimensional. And look,
Carmelo was incredible, but he didn't really have much of
a move. It was just that jab step. But he
was going to nail it. He's going to kill you
mid range. But Carmelo was not the all around player
(27:39):
that Cooper Flag is. So there's a difference in that.
It's the value in that. But Cooper Flag has an
opportunity to learn. He can learn from Kyrie, he can
learn from Ad, he can learn from Jason Kidd. If
Jason Kidd still wants to be the coach. Feels like
that didn't go away yet. There was a report yesterday
(28:00):
that either the Knicks and Jason Kidd are still holding
out hope. But Nico Harrison, by the way, you can't
write a script for Nico Harrison where you go, Hey,
listen to this pitch, Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
This guy he's.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Got a trade, a franchise player, death threats, he can't
even go to games or they know they bow him.
And you know, the team had all kinds of injuries.
You kind of limped literally into the playoffs, and then
all of a sudden, long odds, you win the lottery
and then you.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Get Cooper Flag. That's what happened. So I guess the
Mavericks had a good year.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Would you say, all the backlash, you had, all the injuries,
Kyrie's going to be out for half the year, probably
you get a d and you got bailed out, the
ultimate bailout, probably an end where it's like, oh my god,
(29:02):
what did we do? Now?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
We'd still do it again.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
He didn't play any defense, and then you end up
with Cooper flag. But watching last night, you know, it's
fun to see some of these names that you saw
kind of a you know, six months there were eighteen
freshmen drafted. This really was an introduction to rookie class.
One oh one last time in this bj Edgecombe I
(29:29):
watched him. I really liked him at Baylor. I don't
know what he's going to do in the NBA. I
don't know what any of the you know, Con Knipple,
I don't know. I mean at Duke, all right, you can.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Look a like a top five pick. I guess at Duke.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
He's a really good shooter, but he is a you know,
stan still shooter. I don't know how much he's creating.
You're going to play in Charlotte, which good luck, Good
Charlotte me.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
It got some minutes.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Probably I'm gonna gas, So I don't you know, you're
trying to figure any of this stuff out. Good luck,
because you're dealing mostly with freshman Dylan Harper, not a
great shooter, but he can handle the ball. Well, san
Antonio's got the Rookie of the year stuff on Castle
and dearon Fox. I'm gonna guess somebody is probably headed
(30:23):
out of town. Could san Antonio? Who missed out on
And I don't have any information on this. This is
just me watching the TV last night in between getting
yelled at by steven A.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Smith.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Not directly, it just felt like it was like, I
got to turn down. Can you have a volume when
steven A is on that? I could just turn it
down just a little bit and then it's kind of
an auto adjust there.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You know it's steven A. Smith.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Don't they have the SAP or whatever that is. This
will be the sas Yeah, the essay Shore. It's like
because he started yelling and I'm like, who is he?
Why are we yelling? And I think at one point
somebody said this, Bob Myers might have said, hey, this
is supposed to be a good night, a positive night.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I am positive. Slow down, just slow down, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I don't know who came up with that idea of
the louder you yelled, the more often you're gonna win
your argument.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Casparis Jocket, Judas can't play. I don't even know where
I was before I get a lot of eighteen year
olds drafted. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (31:38):
Yeah, it's the worst thing you could be in basketball,
a graduating senior for your senior.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Well, okay, Danny Wolf played at Yale and then went
to Michigan. Now, Marvin loved Danny.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Wolf, love his game, big fan.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
But I don't know if he was his senior. He
was a junior at Michigan. Okay, I I don't know
if there was a senior taken last night. I'm gonna
I'm gonna guess.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
That's the worst thing to be is a US born
senior going into the draft. If your senior year, it's like, hey,
maybe second round, late second round.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Yes.
Speaker 10 (32:21):
The only thing worse would be a fifth year senior
the Armando Baycott syndrome, as we like to call it here,
played five years at North Carolina, just played great basketball and.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Couldn't get in.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I misspoke with Mellow. Mellow's third overall pick, not number one.
Speaker 10 (32:36):
Pick, reminding Detroit fans about that.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yes, that's true. Yeah, you should have left that out. Yes,
uh all right, so play of the day is coming up.
Thank you for setting me straight. On that with Carl Mellon.
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of Danny Wolf, don't know if he was happy to
go there or maybe got happier that his name was called,
But he was just kind of sitting there and then
all of a sudden they called his name. But Brooklyn
Nets they drafted four guards, three point guards, and they
drafted Danny Wolf, who was a point center.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
He was crying Wolf.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Oh wow, I go dang, that's fine.
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Speaker 2 (33:40):
Cal Rawley catcher for the Seattle Mariners, and he leads
all the baseball and home runs and RBIs. Twenty twenty
five is obviously a career season, but he's had home
runs before each of the last three seasons. He's led
all catchers twenty seven homers, then thirty, then thirty four
and he joins hiss now, caw, what's different this year
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as opposed to the last couple of years.
Speaker 11 (34:06):
I think really just me trying to be consistent at
the plate and not you know, going up and changing
a bunch of things mid season, trying to you know,
go down rabbit holes. So you know, even if I
do have a bad game or two, just really trying
to stay within myself and my approach and folks on
what I can do rather than what the pictures trying
to do to me.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
How often do you go up to the plate trying
to hit a home run?
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Well, usually when I do, it doesn't work out very well.
Speaker 11 (34:34):
So it's you know, the I guess the old saying,
you know, kind of happens by accidents. So you know, pictures,
you know, you to take advantage of the mistakes when
they do, and I'm just trying to square it up
and hit it.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
Through the middle of the field.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
You're in there with some pretty famous people here, Like
when you look at what you've accomplished, the number of
players to reach thirty home runs before the end of June, Babe,
Ruth Ken, Griffy June. You're Sammy, so said Mark McGuire,
Barry Bonds, Albert Poohol's show, Hey O, Tani, Aaron Judge, Uh.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Pretty good list there.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Does that seem very fitting for any.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
But how do you do you embrace this that you
belong This shouldn't be viewed as who is this guy
and where did he come from? Are you surprised at
how great you have played this year?
Speaker 11 (35:28):
I mean, you know, you always want to have that
confidence as a baseball player going to the box. You
want to feel like you're the best player in the world.
Right But you know, I think you know the real
side of it now, I don't. You know, it's hard
to kind of fatho them, you know, you know, especially
when you're rattle off names like that. So anytime you're
in that kind of you know, company with with hearing
(35:51):
those names, you know you're doing something you know pretty good.
So really just trying to, you know, keep my head
down and try to keep going, you know, not really
trying to about that too much, and trying to see
how far I can go.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
You get recognized outside of Seattle.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Outside of Seattle, yeah, not very much? No, sometimes, yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
You could walk out of your hotel in Arlington right now,
oh yeahs and go anywhere. You could go to lunch,
you could wear your jersey, you could wear your full uniform,
and people might not realize who you are.
Speaker 11 (36:28):
Yeah, it's uh, it's you know, just a pretty average
looking dude.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
So I'm not you know, Aaron Judge.
Speaker 11 (36:36):
He's a pretty big dude. You can you can kind
of recognize him, not not me quite so much.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Okay, but you got a great nickname.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
I think it's yeah, one of the better ones.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
So okay, when you first heard it, who gave you
that nickname?
Speaker 11 (36:50):
Uh so, Jared kellnick We came up to the Miners.
He played with us for a couple of years with
the Braves now. He tweeted it out as soon as
I debuted, and you know, I think people thought it
was really funny at first.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
And then wait, but what leads him to call you
the big dumper?
Speaker 11 (37:11):
So I have a I have a you know, a
big butt, and that's uh, that's it's kind of been
a running thing since I've been in high school. You know,
it's just kind of been It's like, wow, he just
you know, just kind of sticks out like that guy's
got a really big butt. And he was always commenting
on in the minor leagues. And then and then obviously
get called up and that happens. Didn't really play well
(37:31):
and then start playing well and people just kind of
like took off with they loved it that that was
really funny and see how it was kind of made
it made it there kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
So so it's kind of a Kim Kardashian thing, you know.
It's yeah, kind of kind of like your your calling card.
There is there a sponsorship here with the Big Dumper?
Speaker 11 (37:52):
No, I mean not yet. I mean we'll see what.
We'll see what's out there. Maybe getting on this show.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Maybe we'll get some about dude wipes.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
Dude wipes would be a good one kind.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Of fit, right, Uh, Toto toilets.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Any kind of a day. Your agent should be doing
this for.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
You, I know you should. They should be on it
after the show.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yes, I mean this is a big deal there, big
big opportunities. We're talking to Cal Rawley, the Mariners catcher.
Who was your like idol or who did you kind
of pattern yourself since you're a switch hitting catcher. Not
many of those, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
You're right, there's not a lot of those.
Speaker 11 (38:36):
I'd say I grew up diehard Red Sox fan, so
Jason Vertek was kind of.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
My guy growing up.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Have you met him?
Speaker 11 (38:44):
Yeah, I've got to meet him a few times. He's
he's on staff with the Socks right now, so I
got to chat with him a little bit. But yeah,
I loved him obviously, him being a sweat tater catcher
and you know, him having the sea on his chest,
you know, as the captain was was a really cool
thing growing up and just somebody I idled and or
(39:05):
was my idol and it was great to watch.
Speaker 6 (39:07):
And you know I watched a bunch of other.
Speaker 11 (39:09):
Catchers as well, you know, Posey Molina those there are
some really good ones as well, but the Veritext the
one the sticks out.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I was wondering if there was any correlation between being
a catcher and being a good hitter, because you're so
used to seeing pitches that you call for these pitches,
you know what it looks like, the spin, change up,
how it comes out of the hand. Is there any
correlation there of helping you as a hitter by being
a catcher.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
Yeah, I mean I believe so.
Speaker 11 (39:39):
I mean, you know, I think as a catcher, you know,
I spend most of my time doing scouting reports, talking
with pictures about how they want attack hitters, going over
their weaknesses, so I think you can kind of flip
flop that and use that as an advantage as a hitter,
and you know, he can kind of you can kind
of think along sometimes with with other catchers and other
(40:01):
pictures and see how they're attacking you and go off
the patterns and pass how they pitched you.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
So it's taking some time to kind of learn how
to do that.
Speaker 11 (40:09):
But but so I'd say that it definitely helps be
in the catcher because you can you can understand that
part of a little bit. But at the end of
the day, you still got to go out and put
a good swing on the ball and and find something
in the heart of the blade.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
How do you feel when the pitch you called for
is hit for a home run?
Speaker 6 (40:30):
You don't feel good?
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I mean, do you apologize? Have you apologized to your
picture gone out to the mound?
Speaker 6 (40:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (40:38):
Because sometimes I mean, you know, I think at the
end of the day, it's all about execution, you know,
when it's coming out.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
Of the picture's hand.
Speaker 11 (40:44):
But there are sometimes where you're like, you know, maybe
I I messed that one up, or you know, I
think it just goes hand in hand as a as
a battery, you know, as a picture and catcher. You're
working together, and you know, sometimes you mess up, sometimes
you get it right, and it's just kind of how
it goes. Is as the catcher, you know, you you
you wear some of those a little harder than others.
Speaker 6 (41:04):
Depending on the situation and depending on what you call it.
Speaker 11 (41:07):
So you know, sometimes it's on the picture, sometimes it's
on the catcher.
Speaker 6 (41:10):
It's just kind of how it goes.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
How long are you allowed to admire a home run
that you've hit?
Speaker 6 (41:17):
Uh? I think you can take a good look at it,
but you know you don't want to. You don't want
to be that guy.
Speaker 11 (41:22):
You don't want to take too long, and you know,
you don't want to show anybody up on the opposing side.
And next thing you know, you're one of your teammates
getting thrown at or you're getting thrown at.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
So but once you get past first base, cal oh.
Speaker 11 (41:36):
I you know, I have a pretty decent job. You know,
I don't take too much time around the bases. I
just you know, you got to show love to the
bullpen because they're rooting you on out there, so you
give them a little point and then and then you
cross home and you go get the gear on this.
Speaker 6 (41:53):
How it goes?
Speaker 3 (41:54):
What's a home run sound like?
Speaker 11 (41:59):
I mean typically sound very loud that usually when you
get them good, you don't.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
It doesn't feel like you hit anything.
Speaker 11 (42:03):
He just kind of feels like it was just like
a smooth swing, like almost like a dry, dry hack.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
So it feels good.
Speaker 11 (42:10):
And when you get it sweet though you can it's
pretty loud the crack of the bat.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
And what's the stolen bases? What do you got nine
stolen bases?
Speaker 6 (42:19):
Yeah? I got nine this year? I am Are.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
You deceptively fast? Are you? You're sneaky fast?
Speaker 6 (42:27):
Sneaky fast? I think I still I broke the record.
Speaker 11 (42:30):
Our manager, he was the catcher for a while with
the Mariner, Stan Wilson, and he held the record for
a catcher in the Org. And I broke it this year,
and I thought about doing the whole rooky.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
After the game today. I'm the greatest, that's right of all.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Did they give you the bag after you set the
organizational record for stolen bases?
Speaker 6 (42:53):
No, it was Unfortunately it was only like seven, so
it wasn't wasn't a number.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Johnny bench to me the greatest catcher I ever saw,
and he's very impressed with you, has some great things
to say about you.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
That's the highest praise.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I think you could get because Bench was a great athlete,
power hitter, and I think the greatest defensive catcher of
all time.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
So yeah, that's I.
Speaker 11 (43:19):
Mean, getting getting that kind of a lot from him.
And what he said was, you know, it means the
whole world to me. So I got to meet him
this year at the Ethnic Old Glub banquet.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Oh cool.
Speaker 11 (43:30):
Got to talk with him for a couple a couple
hours and just sitting and talk all of them and
it was just amazing. Hearing the stories and getting the
chat with him was awesome.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Well, great to talk to you. Good luck.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I think your second in the MVP race according my
odds this morning.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
I've got Aaron Judge and then you.
Speaker 6 (43:50):
So I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
I mean, that's not bad not bad company here, Strike
keep going. Yeah, all right, Well you can stay anonymous
maybe just walking around, but not when you come to
the plate. So continue to do that and uh, let's
work on a sponsorship there.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
Cal. I appreciate you, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
That's Cayl Raleigh calling the big dumper. He's fine with that.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Congratulations to the Oklahoma City Thunder, the best regular season team,
the best postseason team. But the Pacers held on for
dear life. They pushed it to seven games, but the
Tyres Haliburton injury was tough to overcome.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
We talked about it when he injured.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
His calf, and you'll see this that the calf injury
and the possibility of an achilles injury.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
We talked about that last week.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Unfortunately it came to fruition and you couldn't help but
think of Kevin Durant when he got off to a
hot start and then he blew out his achilles a
few years ago. But Tyrese Haliburton will remember an incredible
postseason run. Also, Shay gilgis Alexander not many. This is
rarefied air. When you put him in there with Michael
(00:51):
and Shack. When you're going to be the regular season
MVP scoring champ, you're going to win an NBA title
Finals MVP, and he did it in an effortless way.
He did it in an old school way. Now I
say old school because he doesn't rely on the three
point shot. He'll beach off the dribble. He's capable of
scoring on three different levels, but he was efficiently brilliant
(01:14):
in the NBA Finals. We'll get to your phone calls,
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Speaker 3 (01:32):
We'll join us.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
We'll talk about the Kevin Durant trade that happened yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
We have a play the day poll question. Stat of
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Speaker 4 (02:07):
Question for hour one is going to be what well,
I've got something that could be considered a sign of
the apocalypse or just very bad news for two people here. Okay,
Paul and Todd have both submitted the same pole question. O, man,
what happened to Paul?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
That's right?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Is Todd coming up? Or is Paul going down? I
can't really tell.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
What's the possibility of both questions being good?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
That's for you to decide. All right, the NBA Finals
was memorable for dot dot dot.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Well, let's see Paul's options. Where the first title of
this young OKC team, SGA cementing himself as a superstar,
piecers fight Halliburton's injury or nothing or nothing yes, Todd's
(03:06):
suggestions where the sitter the Oklahoma City winning their first
ever title, SGA being named the MVP, Halliburton's injury, or
Kevin Durant getting traded to this from the Suns to
the Rockets.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Hmm, with no local ties. I would say tyrese Haliburton's injury.
I think his playoff performance leading into the NBA Finals
and he gave them hope. SGA was you know, brilliant,
(03:40):
and he also had a you know, a Game seven
that we haven't had in a long time, you know,
twenty nine and twelve assists. First player to reach those
numbers in game seven of an NBA Finals you have
to go back to nineteen seventy when Wald Fraser went
for thirty six and nineteen. I just think the injury
with hallib because of all the big shots that he
(04:03):
had leading into the finals, that he gave them hope
and hope went down and didn't get back up last night.
So I would say in ten years from now, let's
let's put it that way. How about we put a
window on this. Ten years from now, when we look
back on this year's NBA Finals, it's probably going to
(04:24):
be Tyrese Haliburton will remember because of the injury, how
they had played. They forced a game seven. Okay, see
was the best team. But I think I think what
the Pacers did created more headline conversation than what Oklahoma
City did.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yes, I think how we remember this finals is dependent
on how both of these teams do the next three years.
If we go right back to after after this year,
If next year we go back to some sort of
like return cycle of you know, Warriors, Lakers, Celtics, uh,
(05:04):
you know, whoever win, then don't I don't know what
we're going to really remember from this one. But if
if the Pacers go on to be greater, the thunder
going to keep being greater, it's going to shape how
this one is remembered.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
But also keep in mind Tyree's Haliburton will probably be
out all next year, so you know his impact is
going to be felt next year because he won't be
able to play. Jason Tatum not able to play for
the Celtics next year probably not, so factor those in
and how that shapes the East because the East is
(05:37):
really really wide open now, and we don't even know
if Jannis is going to stay in Milwaukee, like all
of a sudden, Orlando, the Cavaliers, obviously Garland's having toe surgery,
but they would be the favorites. The Knicks, you know,
once again, would be in the in the in the
conversation there. But if you don't have Tatum and you
(05:59):
don't have Hallow, and those are the best players on
the on the best teams right now, east is wide open.
That's where Yannis might go. Maybe can you help me
out a little bit here, can you give me something
here in Milwaukee. But we'll talk to Chris Mannix about
this because I think Mannix gets the feeling that Jannis,
(06:21):
if he's going anywhere, would end up in San Antonio.
But Kevin Durant ending up with Houston. You know that
Cleveland was in this. I'm told at the last minute,
like there were teams going, hey, we know you got
to trade him. What's it going to take? And I
think the Knicks made another run out. Everybody was kind
of like circling it was. It was a open secret
(06:43):
that Durant was going to be traded, and the question
was where's he going to be traded? And it was
going to be this week because the draft is coming
up on Wednesday night.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
But we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
With Durant being traded and Houston I thought did pretty well.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Here.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You can look at the draft pick. I don't look
at the draft picks the way I used to because
it just feels like, eh, and we'll give you a
I don't know how many second round picks you want?
You want four, you want five, go ahead, take whatever
you want. And Jalen Green, it's weird to be what
is he twenty three? And he averaged you know, over
I think he might have averaged twenty three points a game.
He didn't do well in the postseason, and I think
(07:20):
there was concern with Houston that maybe he is not
that number one guy. Phoenix Suns are a mess. They
really are, and they you know, it's not just one year.
I mean they've been consistent in being a mess because
you get Bradley Beal. I can only warn these owners
(07:40):
in GMS so often. If they're not going to listen
to me, then it's on them. Get a new owner.
Matt Ishbia, former walk on at Michigan State. All of
a sudden, you start making decisions. You bring in Durant.
You gave up a lot to get durand Devin Booker.
I don't are you building around Devin Booker? Like it
(08:00):
feels like who is anybody going to pass the ball
on that team? Bradley Beal, Devin Booker and Jalen Green.
I don't like that. I don't like that at all.
But when I saw it, I go all right. Durant
goes to Houston. I like the roster. Yma Udoka, the
head coach, just got a contract extension.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
It's a young team, but now you have a closer.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Now you got a guy can go get you a
bucket and that's going to make them extremely dangerous. It's
a young team, aggressive team, good defensive team. And now
you got a guy crunch time who can get you
a bucket. Now, granted he's thirty seven, but his game
is not really predicated on jumping high or moving fast.
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It just feels like he gets to spots and he
will kill you. But from the perspective of the Rockets,
I like what they did because it's now. Now they're
trying to win a championship where Phoenix, Phoenix is going
to have to take the wrecking ball, and I can
you can't trade Bradley bial Imagine Lebron and Bradley be
(09:09):
are the two guys who don't have no trade glasses.
So yeah, you have Bradley Beal and Devin Booker and
Jalen Green and I don't know the ghost of Steve
Nash there, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
The crazy part is the Sons were in the finals
in twenty twenty nine. No, I know how things change
so fast? What a young Devin Booker. If you're thinking
when they got to the finals, oh, we'll be back.
That's the scariest part about getting to the finals. You
don't know which way it's going to go.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
You know, I brought up this calf issue thing because
Dame Lillard and Jason Tatum both told Gilbert Arenas that
they had calf injuries before they told their tour their achilles,
and that's what happened with Tyres Halliburton. And that's why
I wondered, can you put him out there? I know
he wants to be out there, but you have he
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has to know that there is a risk that you're
gonna tear your achilles.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Tatum and Dame Lillard both had.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Cap injuries and then they tore their achilles, and that's
what happened with Tyree's Haliburton. Also, don't wear the number zero.
Dame Lillard zero, Jason Tatum zero, Tyre's Halliburton zero. Yikes,
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who else is wearing zero? We got to give them
a heads up.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Christian Brown, be careful. Well, okay if he wears zero? Sure?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
All righty, So the poll question, what are we going
to remember seeing any other pole question for the first
hour of the program.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Uh, yeah, we got one more here for you. Okay.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Bigger mistake trading SGA trading the Sonics.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Well, that owner wanted to move them to Okay, cyah,
So I get that, But you.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Go back to when Shay Gilgis was traded now Sam
Presty Oklahoma City. GM insisted that SGA was going to
be in the deal, and I think the Clippers were
trying to hold on to him. He finished sixth in
the Rookie of the Year ballot, and he averaged only
twelve points a game. Anybody who said, well I saw this,
I think he might be lying, because that felt like,
(11:28):
all right, you take Paul George, take his contract.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
What are you going to give us in return?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And they had accumulated so many draft picks there in
Oklahoma City, and all of a sudden, you know, I
watched Shay Gilgis at Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I can't tell you.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I remember one play that he had kind of like
the way he plays now where you go, all right,
I think I can score. I mean, he was just
another Kentucky player. He can score, Okay, can get to
the loop. I didn't think, oh my god, that guy's
going to be He's going to do something that is
in rarefied air with Kareem and Shaq and Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Imagine you're on that list. And he did it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I don't think anybody saw that coming, that he would
be this great. But this, you know, this has been
a process, like five six years to get to this point.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Remember chat Holmgren.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
As soon as they got him, he got hurt in
that summer All Star Game that he was playing in.
He's had a hip injury. He's obviously injury prone here.
But you're getting guys, and you're going, Okay, nobody wants
Alex Caruso. We'll take him. Lou Dort who Jalen Williams who?
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I mean, come on, guy, went to Santa Clara. That's
where you look at scouting. That's where you look at
what you do, and you know down in the lab
and that's what OKA see has done a wonderful job.
And it starts with Sam Presty. I think he took over.
He was twenty eight years of age when he was
a GM and now what is he forty seven? Still
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young for that job. But you know, this is why
when we talk about the Lakers that you get new ownership.
Now you can't go out and just buy whoever you want,
but they're going to help the infrastructure of the Lakers scouting.
I mean that that's where you beef up and you know,
that's what OKAC has done. It did a wonderful john
and should be commended for finding those players who do
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fit in.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
The key for OKC as we move forward is Shay
Gilgess is probably going to get a contract that's going
to pay him eighty million dollars a year. Just start
there now. Is Chad Homern going to take less? Is
Jalen Williams going to Is anybody taking less to stay
together to win a championship. As a former NBA champion
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once told me, once I got my ring, I wanted
my money. That's what happens. I got my ring, now
I want my money. Look at what happened with the Nuggets.
Those guys bench players. They got their ring, then they
wanted their money. It's in natural evolution. When you're trying
to keep these teams together, that's what you have to
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have in place. Is there a commonality that hey, let's
do that, Let's continue to do this. We're having fun,
we're the best team, we're young, we have plenty of
time to make plenty of money. It sounds altruistic, but
it doesn't happen that way. Guys are gonna leave. Guys
are gonna want their money. I understand it. Natural evolution.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
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Speaker 2 (15:25):
In case you missed it, the Pat McAfee Show, Aaron
Rodgers talked about his future with the Steelers and the NFL.
Speaker 9 (15:34):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is it. You know, that's
why we just did a one year deal. You know,
this was really about finishing with a lot of love
and fun and peace for the career that I've had.
I've played twenty freaking years like it's been a long,
long run.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
I've enjoyed it.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
And what better place to finish than in one of
the cornerstone franchises of the NFL, with Mike Tomlin and
a great group of leadership and great guys in the
city that expects expects you to win.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I don't have any problem with this. I mean the
Rogers news I rarely react to. Thought he was going
to go to the Steelers. Thought he was going to
wait as long as he could. Didn't know that he
got married. Maybe that was the reason why he wasn't
showing up. You want to do a victory tour, great,
I have no problem with that. Steelers, I'm sure would
(16:26):
want to know this that this doesn't become a week sixteen,
week seventeen?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Are you coming back? Are you coming back?
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Now?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
It's still going to happen. Let's say Aaron Rodgers plays great.
Let's say the Steelers maybe a number two seed, number
three seed. Let's say they overachieve. Let's say they have
home field advantage first round of the playoffs. You're going
to ask that question. You're going to ask that question,
(16:53):
and he might give you a different answer. He might say,
I love it here, I love playing for Mike Timlin.
I love my offense. You know, I'd love to run
it back one more time. I wouldn't rule it out,
certainly with Aaron Rodgers, but he's earned the right. You
want to have a victory tour? Great, Yeah, Marvin, how far.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Do you the stealers need to go before? If you're
Mike Tomlin or if your management say hey, Aaron, do
you want to give it one more go?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I would say, well, how about you do something you
haven't done a long time, win a playoff game? If
you would win two playoff games, then all of a sudden,
I don't think it's a foregone conclusion. Aaron walks away,
But it's Aaron Rodgers, and you just don't know. I mean,
I covered I'm friends with one of the great mysterious
(17:46):
athletes in sports history, and Barry Sanders, and I'm working
Sports Center on a Sunday night the Lions just lost
end of their season, and his agent, Peter Shaeffer calls
me and says, you can't say anything, but and I
went don't do this to me. Barry is on a
plane to London. He's going to retire out of nowhere.
(18:12):
So is Aaron mysterious like that? No, but there is
mystery attached to him. You know, Barry's most unique athlete
I ever covered. You know, frugal, you know, he ran
to make highlights, but his personality wasn't that way. His
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personality was three yards, but his running style was sixty yards,
making you know, seven guys miss. But with Aaron Rodgers,
you know he wants to play this year, and that's
it great. I you know, bigger picture, more important to
me is Mike Tomlin. Because Mike Tomlin and the Steelers
signed up for one year. They had to know that
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it was one year, and he gave him a bargain price.
Now you're back in the quarterback wishing well again. And
this is what I wonder, do you want him for
one year or are you going to try to And
maybe they didn't like these quarterbacks, Maybe they didn't like
Jackson Dart, maybe they didn't like Shud or Sanders or
any of these other quarterbacks. But you're back in the
(19:18):
mix again. And if you're still looking for a quarterback,
man are you behind a lot of teams, all of
these teams that we talk about, what do they have
in common? Very good, if not great quarterback Steelers? Are
we going to go through the Mason Rudolph Hey, you
know what he learned a lot from Aaron Rodgers or
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Will Howard. I mean, you're going against Lamar Jackson and
you're going against Joe Burrow in your own division.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
So it's one year. So that's why I wonder, is
Mike Tomlin one more year? And look, I know, the
national perspective on Mike Tomlin is a whole lot different
than the local because this is a team, this is
a franchise, this is a fan base expects to win,
(20:07):
not a playoff game, compete for championships. And I wonder
if if they go out like they don't win another
they don't want a playoff game, you know, then you
start to look at this and say, do we need
a change? And I wonder with Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin,
maybe they go out same time.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
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Speaker 2 (20:39):
Couple of surprises. But really this is kind of the
let's reintroduce or maybe introduce you to some of the
players who might be playing some minutes in the NBA
next season. I'm going to throw out a couple of names,
and then you tell me if you can guess where
I'm going and maybe even recognize them.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
If I said bub Carrington.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Or I said Jalen Wells, Eve's Missy, where are we gone?
I'm talking about NBA players who were rookies last year.
Bub Carrington played the most minutes of any rookie last year.
He was drafted fourteenth by the Wizards. Jalen Wells second
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most minutes. He was drafted thirty ninth by the Grizzlies.
Eves Missy, who played for the Pelicans, drafted twenty first.
He was fourth on the list. Stefan Cassel third on
the list. He was drafted fourth overall by the Spurs.
So what am I getting at? You can be drafted high,
(21:46):
you can be drafted in the lottery. That doesn't mean
you're going to have those kind of minutes. I think
we feel like, you know, the old days, when you're
drafted in the first ten picks, fifteen picks you're playing
right away. Reed Shepherd did not play for the Rockets
last year and I played five hundred minutes, but he
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was a G League player.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
He was the third pick.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Overall, you're drafting players and it's almost like you're drafting
them they're going to be on your roster, but it's
not like it's sort of like baseball where they draft
and then you disappear for a couple of years and
then you come back.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
You know, you go to the minor leagues.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
These players are kind of there or maybe in the
G League and then they might contribute. Now, do I
think Dylan Harper is going to play significant minutes for
the Spurs?
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Is Cooper Flagg going to play significant minutes for the
Dallas Mavericks?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I do Ace Bailey.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
In Utah VJ Edgecombe. I don't know how much he's
going to play for the seventy six ers. They already
have their guards there. So you're trying to figure this
out of Okay, you drafted a guy, what's that mean
for our team right away? How many of these guys
will have a true impact? And you're gonna have some
(23:03):
projects here and you might have a guy who plays
for a team who then gets traded and then becomes
something in two or three or four years. Because you're
drafting eighteen year olds nineteen year olds in college baseball,
they're at least twenty two to twenty three, so it's different.
But it'd be like taking an eighteen year old high
(23:25):
school phenom in baseball. He's not going to the majors,
he's going to the miners. Well, you're gonna get guys
who are going to play sparingly with a lot of
these first round picks, if they even make the team.
If I said to Monte Kamara, he led in minutes
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the previous year for the Portland Trailblazers Keyante George, he
had the second most minutes in the previous draft. He
was sixth sixteenth overall. So there's no sure things. I mean,
do I expect Ace Bailey to be a good player,
I guess. But the situation you're in really dictates how
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quickly you become successful. If you go to a bad roster,
a bad organization, it's already an uphill battle you're going in.
You're going to be a rookie, you're just trying to survive.
Now you're on a team with a bunch of knuckleheads,
and you've got to you know the history. It's systemic
(24:29):
of how bad you are, and there's a reason why
those organizations stay bad. They're not relevant. Danny Ainge didn't
care that As Bailey didn't want to go to Utah.
Danny Inge said, all right, we'll take you. You don't
want to go to Philly or Charlotte. He didn't want
to go to Utah. He wanted to go to Brooklyn,
and he wanted to go to Washington because he wants
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to be a star right away. I want my shots.
I want to play right away. If I go to
Charlotte and Lamelow, ball is going to be dominating. You know,
he's ball dominant there. Doesn't want to go to the Sixers. Okay,
they're kind of a mess. Didn't want to go to Utah,
and Danny Ainge said, I'm sorry, but I'm still going.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
To take you. And got a lot of talent.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
But I don't know if I don't know if this
strategy worked that he didn't want to work out for
certain teams, didn't want to go to Charlotte, didn't want
to go to the seventy six ers, He's too talented
to have dropped too far, and I think he was
hoping that he was going to drop maybe a couple
more picks, at least one more pick. He wanted to
go to the Pelicans. So this strategy didn't work. You
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ended up in Utah. But Dallas did well, obviously getting
Cooper Flag, who can now ease in two minutes if
he played for another organization. You're like, all right, we're
coming out and see Cooper Flag. Well, you're going to
go out and see the Mavericks with Cooper Flag. There's
a big difference. And we're going to go see Cooper
Flag and the Nets, and I think the expectation level
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will be very beneficial. Carmelo Anthony, former number one overall pick,
now an analyst for NBC with their NBA coverage, had
this to say about Cooper Flag.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
To me, he doesn't do anything great. He just do
a lot of very good. You know what I'm saying.
He offensive rebound very good. He in the passing lanes
very good. He's a weak side defender, very good on
ball defender, he got a lot better.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I want to see him against you.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
I want to see him against Kad.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I want to see him against Luca.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
I want to see him against ann Elwis because you
coming in as that guy. If he gotta develop the
right way, he got to get a skill set. You
can't be in the pros and don't.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Have a skill set.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
So you have to have a skill set, like your
skill set have to be something a wonder.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Full of, like something floater like.
Speaker 8 (26:50):
You have to have.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Something that you'll go to.
Speaker 8 (26:52):
Right now, he don't have a go to.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
That's Carmelo on Podcast P with Paul George discussing Cooper Flag.
You know, I disagree with them of you know, what's
his bag? You can be a really good all around player.
There's value in that. They're looking at this from an
offensive perspective, so it's a myopic view of he's got
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to have.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
A signature move.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Well, he's eighteen, and I think his signature move is
he doesn't have a signature move. He's got a variety
of things. He's not going to be one dimensional. And look,
Carmelo was incredible, but he didn't really have much of
a move. It was just that jab step. But he
was going to nail it. He's going to kill you
mid range. But Carmelo was not the all around player
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that Cooper Flag is. So there's a difference in that.
It's the value in that. But Cooper Flag has an
opportunity to learn. He can learn from Kyrie, he can
learn from Ad, he can learn from Jason Kidd. If
Jason Kidd still wants to be the coach. Feels like
that didn't go away yet. There was a report yesterday
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that either the Knicks and Jason Kidd are still holding
out hope. But Nico Harrison, by the way, you can't
write a script for Nico Harrison where you go, Hey,
listen to this pitch, Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
This guy he's.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Got a trade, a franchise player, death threats, he can't
even go to games or they know they bow him.
And you know, the team had all kinds of injuries.
You kind of limped literally into the playoffs, and then
all of a sudden, long odds, you win the lottery
and then you.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Get Cooper Flag. That's what happened. So I guess the
Mavericks had a good year.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Would you say, all the backlash, you had, all the injuries,
Kyrie's going to be out for half the year, probably
you get a d and you got bailed out, the
ultimate bailout, probably an end where it's like, oh my god,
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what did we do? Now?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
We'd still do it again.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
He didn't play any defense, and then you end up
with Cooper flag. But watching last night, you know, it's
fun to see some of these names that you saw
kind of a you know, six months there were eighteen
freshmen drafted. This really was an introduction to rookie class.
One oh one last time in this bj Edgecombe I
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watched him. I really liked him at Baylor. I don't
know what he's going to do in the NBA. I
don't know what any of the you know, Con Knipple,
I don't know. I mean at Duke, all right, you can.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Look a like a top five pick. I guess at Duke.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
He's a really good shooter, but he is a you know,
stan still shooter. I don't know how much he's creating.
You're going to play in Charlotte, which good luck, Good
Charlotte me.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
It got some minutes.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Probably I'm gonna gas, So I don't you know, you're
trying to figure any of this stuff out. Good luck,
because you're dealing mostly with freshman Dylan Harper, not a
great shooter, but he can handle the ball. Well, san
Antonio's got the Rookie of the year stuff on Castle
and dearon Fox. I'm gonna guess somebody is probably headed
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out of town. Could san Antonio? Who missed out on
And I don't have any information on this. This is
just me watching the TV last night in between getting
yelled at by steven A.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Smith.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Not directly, it just felt like it was like, I
got to turn down. Can you have a volume when
steven A is on that? I could just turn it
down just a little bit and then it's kind of
an auto adjust there.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You know it's steven A. Smith.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Don't they have the SAP or whatever that is. This
will be the sas Yeah, the essay Shore. It's like
because he started yelling and I'm like, who is he?
Why are we yelling? And I think at one point
somebody said this, Bob Myers might have said, hey, this
is supposed to be a good night, a positive night.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I am positive. Slow down, just slow down, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I don't know who came up with that idea of
the louder you yelled, the more often you're gonna win
your argument.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Casparis Jocket, Judas can't play. I don't even know where
I was before I get a lot of eighteen year
olds drafted. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (31:38):
Yeah, it's the worst thing you could be in basketball,
a graduating senior for your senior.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Well, okay, Danny Wolf played at Yale and then went
to Michigan. Now, Marvin loved Danny.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Wolf, love his game, big fan.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
But I don't know if he was his senior. He
was a junior at Michigan. Okay, I I don't know
if there was a senior taken last night. I'm gonna
I'm gonna guess.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
That's the worst thing to be is a US born
senior going into the draft. If your senior year, it's like, hey,
maybe second round, late second round.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Yes.
Speaker 10 (32:21):
The only thing worse would be a fifth year senior
the Armando Baycott syndrome, as we like to call it here,
played five years at North Carolina, just played great basketball and.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Couldn't get in.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I misspoke with Mellow. Mellow's third overall pick, not number one.
Speaker 10 (32:36):
Pick, reminding Detroit fans about that.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yes, that's true. Yeah, you should have left that out. Yes,
uh all right, so play of the day is coming up.
Thank you for setting me straight. On that with Carl Mellon.
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of Danny Wolf, don't know if he was happy to
go there or maybe got happier that his name was called,
But he was just kind of sitting there and then
all of a sudden they called his name. But Brooklyn
Nets they drafted four guards, three point guards, and they
drafted Danny Wolf, who was a point center.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
He was crying Wolf.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Oh wow, I go dang, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
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Speaker 2 (33:40):
Cal Rawley catcher for the Seattle Mariners, and he leads
all the baseball and home runs and RBIs. Twenty twenty
five is obviously a career season, but he's had home
runs before each of the last three seasons. He's led
all catchers twenty seven homers, then thirty, then thirty four
and he joins hiss now, caw, what's different this year
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as opposed to the last couple of years.
Speaker 11 (34:06):
I think really just me trying to be consistent at
the plate and not you know, going up and changing
a bunch of things mid season, trying to you know,
go down rabbit holes. So you know, even if I
do have a bad game or two, just really trying
to stay within myself and my approach and folks on
what I can do rather than what the pictures trying
to do to me.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
How often do you go up to the plate trying
to hit a home run?
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Well, usually when I do, it doesn't work out very well.
Speaker 11 (34:34):
So it's you know, the I guess the old saying,
you know, kind of happens by accidents. So you know, pictures,
you know, you to take advantage of the mistakes when
they do, and I'm just trying to square it up
and hit it.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
Through the middle of the field.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
You're in there with some pretty famous people here, Like
when you look at what you've accomplished, the number of
players to reach thirty home runs before the end of June, Babe,
Ruth Ken, Griffy June. You're Sammy, so said Mark McGuire,
Barry Bonds, Albert Poohol's show, Hey O, Tani, Aaron Judge, Uh.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Pretty good list there.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Does that seem very fitting for any.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
But how do you do you embrace this that you
belong This shouldn't be viewed as who is this guy
and where did he come from? Are you surprised at
how great you have played this year?
Speaker 11 (35:28):
I mean, you know, you always want to have that
confidence as a baseball player going to the box. You
want to feel like you're the best player in the world.
Right But you know, I think you know the real
side of it now, I don't. You know, it's hard
to kind of fatho them, you know, you know, especially
when you're rattle off names like that. So anytime you're
in that kind of you know, company with with hearing
(35:51):
those names, you know you're doing something you know pretty good.
So really just trying to, you know, keep my head
down and try to keep going, you know, not really
trying to about that too much, and trying to see
how far I can go.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
You get recognized outside of Seattle.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Outside of Seattle, yeah, not very much? No, sometimes, yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
You could walk out of your hotel in Arlington right now,
oh yeahs and go anywhere. You could go to lunch,
you could wear your jersey, you could wear your full uniform,
and people might not realize who you are.
Speaker 11 (36:28):
Yeah, it's uh, it's you know, just a pretty average
looking dude.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
So I'm not you know, Aaron Judge.
Speaker 11 (36:36):
He's a pretty big dude. You can you can kind
of recognize him, not not me quite so much.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Okay, but you got a great nickname.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
I think it's yeah, one of the better ones.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
So okay, when you first heard it, who gave you
that nickname?
Speaker 11 (36:50):
Uh so, Jared kellnick We came up to the Miners.
He played with us for a couple of years with
the Braves now. He tweeted it out as soon as
I debuted, and you know, I think people thought it
was really funny at first.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
And then wait, but what leads him to call you
the big dumper?
Speaker 11 (37:11):
So I have a I have a you know, a
big butt, and that's uh, that's it's kind of been
a running thing since I've been in high school. You know,
it's just kind of been It's like, wow, he just
you know, just kind of sticks out like that guy's
got a really big butt. And he was always commenting
on in the minor leagues. And then and then obviously
get called up and that happens. Didn't really play well
(37:31):
and then start playing well and people just kind of
like took off with they loved it that that was
really funny and see how it was kind of made
it made it there kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
So so it's kind of a Kim Kardashian thing, you know.
It's yeah, kind of kind of like your your calling card.
There is there a sponsorship here with the Big Dumper?
Speaker 11 (37:52):
No, I mean not yet. I mean we'll see what.
We'll see what's out there. Maybe getting on this show.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Maybe we'll get some about dude wipes.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
Dude wipes would be a good one kind.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Of fit, right, Uh, Toto toilets.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Any kind of a day. Your agent should be doing
this for.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
You, I know you should. They should be on it
after the show.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yes, I mean this is a big deal there, big
big opportunities. We're talking to Cal Rawley, the Mariners catcher.
Who was your like idol or who did you kind
of pattern yourself since you're a switch hitting catcher. Not
many of those, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
You're right, there's not a lot of those.
Speaker 11 (38:36):
I'd say I grew up diehard Red Sox fan, so
Jason Vertek was kind of.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
My guy growing up.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Have you met him?
Speaker 11 (38:44):
Yeah, I've got to meet him a few times. He's
he's on staff with the Socks right now, so I
got to chat with him a little bit. But yeah,
I loved him obviously, him being a sweat tater catcher
and you know, him having the sea on his chest,
you know, as the captain was was a really cool
thing growing up and just somebody I idled and or
(39:05):
was my idol and it was great to watch.
Speaker 6 (39:07):
And you know I watched a bunch of other.
Speaker 11 (39:09):
Catchers as well, you know, Posey Molina those there are
some really good ones as well, but the Veritext the
one the sticks out.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I was wondering if there was any correlation between being
a catcher and being a good hitter, because you're so
used to seeing pitches that you call for these pitches,
you know what it looks like, the spin, change up,
how it comes out of the hand. Is there any
correlation there of helping you as a hitter by being
a catcher.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
Yeah, I mean I believe so.
Speaker 11 (39:39):
I mean, you know, I think as a catcher, you know,
I spend most of my time doing scouting reports, talking
with pictures about how they want attack hitters, going over
their weaknesses, so I think you can kind of flip
flop that and use that as an advantage as a hitter,
and you know, he can kind of you can kind
of think along sometimes with with other catchers and other
(40:01):
pictures and see how they're attacking you and go off
the patterns and pass how they pitched you.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
So it's taking some time to kind of learn how
to do that.
Speaker 11 (40:09):
But but so I'd say that it definitely helps be
in the catcher because you can you can understand that
part of a little bit. But at the end of
the day, you still got to go out and put
a good swing on the ball and and find something
in the heart of the blade.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
How do you feel when the pitch you called for
is hit for a home run?
Speaker 6 (40:30):
You don't feel good?
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I mean, do you apologize? Have you apologized to your
picture gone out to the mound?
Speaker 6 (40:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (40:38):
Because sometimes I mean, you know, I think at the
end of the day, it's all about execution, you know,
when it's coming out.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
Of the picture's hand.
Speaker 11 (40:44):
But there are sometimes where you're like, you know, maybe
I I messed that one up, or you know, I
think it just goes hand in hand as a as
a battery, you know, as a picture and catcher. You're
working together, and you know, sometimes you mess up, sometimes
you get it right, and it's just kind of how
it goes. Is as the catcher, you know, you you
you wear some of those a little harder than others.
Speaker 6 (41:04):
Depending on the situation and depending on what you call it.
Speaker 11 (41:07):
So you know, sometimes it's on the picture, sometimes it's
on the catcher.
Speaker 6 (41:10):
It's just kind of how it goes.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
How long are you allowed to admire a home run
that you've hit?
Speaker 6 (41:17):
Uh? I think you can take a good look at it,
but you know you don't want to. You don't want
to be that guy.
Speaker 11 (41:22):
You don't want to take too long, and you know,
you don't want to show anybody up on the opposing side.
And next thing you know, you're one of your teammates
getting thrown at or you're getting thrown at.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
So but once you get past first base, cal oh.
Speaker 11 (41:36):
I you know, I have a pretty decent job. You know,
I don't take too much time around the bases. I
just you know, you got to show love to the
bullpen because they're rooting you on out there, so you
give them a little point and then and then you
cross home and you go get the gear on this.
Speaker 6 (41:53):
How it goes?
Speaker 3 (41:54):
What's a home run sound like?
Speaker 11 (41:59):
I mean typically sound very loud that usually when you
get them good, you don't.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
It doesn't feel like you hit anything.
Speaker 11 (42:03):
He just kind of feels like it was just like
a smooth swing, like almost like a dry, dry hack.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
So it feels good.
Speaker 11 (42:10):
And when you get it sweet though you can it's
pretty loud the crack of the bat.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
And what's the stolen bases? What do you got nine
stolen bases?
Speaker 6 (42:19):
Yeah? I got nine this year? I am Are.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
You deceptively fast? Are you? You're sneaky fast?
Speaker 6 (42:27):
Sneaky fast? I think I still I broke the record.
Speaker 11 (42:30):
Our manager, he was the catcher for a while with
the Mariner, Stan Wilson, and he held the record for
a catcher in the Org. And I broke it this year,
and I thought about doing the whole rooky.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
After the game today. I'm the greatest, that's right of all.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Did they give you the bag after you set the
organizational record for stolen bases?
Speaker 6 (42:53):
No, it was Unfortunately it was only like seven, so
it wasn't wasn't a number.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Johnny bench to me the greatest catcher I ever saw,
and he's very impressed with you, has some great things
to say about you.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
That's the highest praise.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I think you could get because Bench was a great athlete,
power hitter, and I think the greatest defensive catcher of
all time.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
So yeah, that's I.
Speaker 11 (43:19):
Mean, getting getting that kind of a lot from him.
And what he said was, you know, it means the
whole world to me. So I got to meet him
this year at the Ethnic Old Glub banquet.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Oh cool.
Speaker 11 (43:30):
Got to talk with him for a couple a couple
hours and just sitting and talk all of them and
it was just amazing. Hearing the stories and getting the
chat with him was awesome.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Well, great to talk to you. Good luck.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I think your second in the MVP race according my
odds this morning.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
I've got Aaron Judge and then you.
Speaker 6 (43:50):
So I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
I mean, that's not bad not bad company here, Strike
keep going. Yeah, all right, Well you can stay anonymous
maybe just walking around, but not when you come to
the plate. So continue to do that and uh, let's
work on a sponsorship there.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
Cal. I appreciate you, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
That's Cayl Raleigh calling the big dumper. He's fine with that.
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