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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to Waken. Jake. Anthony santan Dare is
a Blue Jay. I told you months ago there's receipts.
I don't care, you don't care. I think the Blue
Jays are a fun conversation. They've been popping up here
talking baseball wherever, and then I think it's time to
go back through the teams and do a quick who
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can be done and be satisfied. We'll wrap up with
a little football as two of the final three games
of the season. We'll know who's playing in the Super
Bowl after Sunday. That's pretty wild. But we're gonna start
with baseball because that's what the people like. And I
did think about tier listing this late. Me and BBD
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both did a head tilt. You got tier lists coming.
We're gonna go through the positions this year with our
guy Jolly. Maybe some foolish, but I want to start
with Santandre because it leads into the exercise of the
Blue Jays sign Anthony, so I am taking credit for
that one. His free agency from the start just smelled
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like Toronto. Because when you're signing a free agent and
there's some I don't want to say risk, but risk
of what how can this go bad? Anthony Santander forty
four home runs last year, contract year like it almost
him having a contract year. I feel almost scared teams.
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More like, if Anthony Santander had another thirty three home
run season, I feel like he would have been a
hot name for eighteen to twenty MILLI year at winter meetings. Instead,
he kind of went nuts last year forty four homers,
but the on base percentage went down, the batting average
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went down. So it's an interesting look at Anthony Santander,
who has been one of the best power hitters in baseball.
I think he's sixth in home run the past three years.
As a switch hitting outfielder without a super weak side,
he is the perfect piece to put in any lineup.
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I think switch hitters are underrated still. I think there's
gonna be some baseball team that like figures that out. Anyways,
he has been nothing but fantastic since twenty twenty two,
with part of that Baltimore growth. The problem is he
doesn't rack up war He is not good defensively, so
you're either hiding him in the corner or you're gonna
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put him in the DH spot. I think Toronto's planning
on hiding him in the corner. I guess they've got
options as of now. What is scary? Hey, Tony Tators
two thirty five three Toho eight on base that's pretty daunting.
But he hit forty four homers. He hasn't eight fourteen ops.
So if you're comparing him straight up ops to different players,
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I mean, you know, how much did he beat Luisa
rise in ops last year? Let's see Luis rises ops
was seven thirty nine. Obviously extremely different ballplayer. I probably
should have had a more balanced example. I could go
to Nathaniel Lowe, who I always bring up, who's more
of an all around contributor. I think Anthony Santander the
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fear factor isn't there for me like it may have
been for teams, because Anthony Santonder swings, and that's okay.
You know. I think he had eight home runs on
pitches out of the zone. I think that was the
most in baseball, and second most was four or five. Like,
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Anthony Santander goes up swinging, but he nets results from it,
so I don't think he has to be penalized necessarily
for that. And he's hit home runs the last three years,
one hundred twenty ops plus one twenty one ops plus
one thirty four Last year, Toronto has been looking for
a lefty.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Hitter.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Since this is a fun game. Ooh, okay, this is
a fun game live the Toronto Blue Jays. If you recall,
they traded for Dalton Varshow a couple of years ago
because they needed a lefty impact hitter. Dalton Varshow hasn't
been that guy for him, He's been great defensively. Last
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year's team No. Twenty twenty three, No. Twenty twenty two, No,
it was Alrighty ta Oscar George Springer. Lord is Gurriel
Matt Chapman. People forget Bobashett Vladimir Guerrero. That team was
so righty that they traded serious assets. Remember Gabby Moreno
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for Varshow twenty twenty one Vlad Simeon's massive year. The
set lord is Gurriel Randall Gerchick. The Oscar is George Springer.
Alrighty Cavin Bigio was supposed to be one of the
lefties for this team. It never really clicked in it.
I mean his okay, he had a he had an
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eight seven ops in the shortened twenty twenty season. So hey,
that's good for Cavin Bigio. I don't know how much accounts.
Rowdy Tiles was great in the shortened season. Let's exclude
the shortened season. Twenty nineteen. Justin Smoke was league average. Hmm,
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Rowdy te Les was a little under league average. I
don't think Eric so Guard went nuts for seventy three games.
What is baseball? How does that happen? I don't think
I can count that twenty eighteen. These are during some
of the Blue Jays dark years. Okay, Justin Smoke has
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a good twenty five homer, eight h eight ops in
there is there anyone else? Hendris Morales?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
My goodness, I think I've got eyes on like a
solid hundred games out of Curtis Granderson that year.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
What was this team? Is this real?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Is this a pr?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Devin Travis? Wow? Okay, So to go back to a
full season of a left handed or switch hitter giving
the Blue Jays an eight hundred ops, you gotta go
back to twenty eighteen. So Anthony Santander had that last year.
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So I like that for the Blue Jays because they're
banking on Boba Schett bouncing back. They're banking on Vladimir
Guerrero's full blown breakout last year continuing to be a
full blown breakout. You can put together a nice lineup
there if you can get something from George Springer, one
of your young guys does something. Alejandro Kirk can be
around league average or better. Maybe Jimenez you hope the same.
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But defensively you're gonna rack up war there and even
Dalton varshow so like I kind of like that. You
can look at the Blue Jays now and be like, Okay,
Var show, Jimenez, Kirk top and framing last year. You
three are out there for defense, Vladdie bo Santander, you
guys are out there for offense. They need more if
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we're being real, in the American League and the American
League East, they're still there's a much easier argument that
the Blue Jays are the worst team than the second
best team. So the Blue Jays have to do some
more work, and it seems like they're getting in the mix.
I think, would they just sign a backup catcher and
a reliever?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Your guy, they got Christian Beth in court, They got
your guy, Richard Lovelady.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Did you take Dick Lovelady in a reliever draft a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Uh, Dick Blier, I think I ended up.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I mean he's also known as Anyways, the Blue Jays
have to do more work if we need to actually
talk about them, because the example I used on talking
baseball was can the Blue Jays lineup be above average?
I think so if everything goes right for the Jays
next year, if Lattie's that guy, if stand or Santander
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boba Chet bounces back, you have three real weapons in
the lineup that if you get anything out of Kirk Kamenez,
Ernie Clement had a fine year. I think their offense
could be above league average. That's good. Their rotation, I
think could be above league average. Kevin Gossman, who had
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a down year, still was three war A three eight,
three thirty one starts if Kevin Gossman bounces back a
little bit. Okay, Barrios had a fine year. Out In
Francis had a late breakout last year. Chris Bassett is
solid Yari L. Rodriguez, Do I think they can be elite?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Do I think that rotation in the right year could
be above average. Yeah, they were fourteenth in era last year,
and Gossman I think has a little more. No mention
of Alec Manoa. Anyways, their bullpen was horrendous last year.
That's the easiest thing to change. They were twenty ninth
in era. Jeff Hoffman they signed to a free agent contract.
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Who knows if he's starting or if he's back there.
Chad Green, Jimmy Garcia, Eric Swanson, Nick Sandlin. They just
signed Dick clove Lady. Like we talked about, bullpens are volatile.
Do I think the Blue Jays could have an above
average bullpen? I do? Do I think all three of
those things are going to happen? I don't. I think
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one or two. But in the Al East, you know
this is a fight or flight year for the Orioles,
the Yankees. You know, Yankee fans will tell you the
team might be better. Don't know if I buy that yet.
The Red Sox are greatly improved. They look really strong,
and the Rays are gonna raise that. There's almost My
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favorite Rays game to play is like for them to
have seventy two wins. I don't even know how that
happens anymore. They just throw different arms and they play defense.
That to have a horrible season doesn't happen. The Blue
Jays finished last in the AL East last year. They
didn't lose much. They lost Jordan Romano a couple other relievers,
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so again that could be a good thing. And they've
added Anthony Santandre. So it really spins into the question
of are the Blue Jays done? They've been in on
every free agent. What else are they gonna do? Which
spun me into who's done? So we'll play a quick
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Jaki's alphabetical burn through the Ale in the NL. My
favorite game that I don't know if you people like
or hate, I guess comment below because sometimes I get
sucked into this. And again, I could have full tiered this,
but there's so many teams that kind of don't matter,
and you got tierless coming, I promise you. The Athletics
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are listed first now because they don't have a home reminder.
They could be done. They still have to add money, right,
I assume at least one more money adding move. But
for all intents and purposes, I guess the game is
could A's fans be satisfied with their team's offseason? It's
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a loaded question. Let's just say the A's could be done.
Maybe that's the game. Could the A's be done? Yes, Baltimore,
Could Baltimore be done? This is an interesting one for me.
I think me and BBD landed on the same answer.
I believe they could. They added starting pitching depth with
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Morton and Sugano. They added Andrew Kittridge in their bullpen,
which also added Felix Bautista after missing all of last year.
And dude, I forget they got both Philly guys between
Sir Anthony Dominga's Gregory Soto. I haven't mentioned Yeni Cano yet.
Keegan Aiken had a breakout year. That's a lot of
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guys in the bullpen.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
And they have top back to the starters like Albert
Suarez currently listed in that bullpen.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
They have whichever Rogers.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Is the one they have that's listed in the miners
at this moment they have. They have Bradish and Wells
and Wells coming back at some.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Point during this season. They they very well could be
done with their winter editions.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It could be done. We expected something last year. They
had a Tyler O'Neal to the outfield to essentially replace Antandere.
They still have more young guys on the way Kobe Mayo,
Samuel Bissalo the number one prospect in baseball. I don't
you know. You never know if an agent is doing stuff.
Me and him are follow for follow on Instagram and
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I think he likes stuff, so again, that could be
his agent. I guess, but I don't know. Shout out
to my guy, big fan. The Orioles could be done
and that could be okay for them. The Boston Red
Sox are they done? I think it's an interesting case
of things and stuff. I don't think they are, or
I don't think they can be. I mean, they've obviously
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been the lead for Bregman for the past couple months.
Their rotation can be done Crochet how Bayo, Crawford, Bueler,
no mention of Giolito, who should be working his way
back sand of all end of the year. They can
be done in the rotation, They can be done in
the bullpen. It's funny. Their lineup is good, but if
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they come into the lineup without another bat, I do
think Red Sox fans would be disappointed. Like you've made
it this far, so I guess if the column is
could be done with your offseason or could not be
done I think the Red Sox could not, should not
be done, couldn't, shouldn't, wouldn't. What's with those.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Words should, shouldn't but.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Could shouldn't be done? Chicago White Sox are so irrelevant
it actually made me mad today. Made me mad today
with all the conversation about if the Dodgers are like
illegal or bad for baseball. As long as the White
Sox are rolling this out there, I don't think the
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other side can have an argument. The Chicago White Sox
should have a two hundred and fifty million dollars payroll.
You know what. Let me let me read you there
a lot. Just in case you missed the White Sox
offseason talkman leading off in right field, Luis Robert in centerfield,
Andrew ben and Tendi and left, Andrew Vaughan at first,
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Josh Rojas at third, Lennon Sosa at second, Miguel Vargas
listed as the DH Brooks bald when at shortstop. Not
familiar with your game, my friend Corey Leott catcher, Matt Tye,
Nick Mayton, Zach Deloch and all and Slater listed as
their bench. Your White Sox, Ace Martin Perez, Jonathan Cannon,
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Davis Martin, Sean Burke, and Bryce Wilson. I'm not gonna
do the bullpen. So yeah, if you're someone that's been
mad about the Dodgers the past couple of days, there
are some arguments, Hey, go be mad at the White Sox.
Why aren't they signing a bunch of guys? Why aren't
they rumored for anyone? Be better? Could Cleveland be done? Absolutely?
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They just signed Paul Seawall today.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They always can be done.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
The point of this exercise is could they be done
and be? Okay? Yes, for what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
We're saying it's can they be done? I guess, but
we're actually fine. He's like, who has to do something?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yes? And they do not have to do anything ever there.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, I guess I'm trying. Am I phrasing it for
the fan base? I think so? For the fan base
to be satisfied because the next one's interesting and I'd
love if there's any listeners to reach out the Detroit
Tigers if they're done, is their fan base okay with that?
My assumption is yes, I know they're interested in like
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Bragman and that's been a thing. But if they just
went through this offseason, they added labor for a year.
It's a bunch of young guys on the field, scooble Olsen.
They signed Alex Cobb, which has been my joke throwing signing.
But that's that's something Casey meies Jackson job. You know,
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their bullpen was strong last year. I think they could
be done, and I think everyone would be like that
was a fine offseason for them. They didn't hurt themselves,
they didn't super help themselves. I think they'd be okay
with being done. Houston, I'll tell you what, man, And
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this is bizarre. They signed Christian Walker. Great, they did
the Kyle Tucker trade.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Technically in that trade they got their Bregman replacement, right Esach, I.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Don't know it. How about this. If I was an
Astros fan and we came into camp next year with
our outfield as Chas McCormick, Taylor Tremmell and Jake Myers,
I would not be satisfied.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Seems like an outfield move still has to happen in
some form.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
It's just weird because they could not. But no, I
would put them in the other bucket. If I'm putting
the Red Sox in the something more has to be done.
I think Houston should be in the something more has
to be done bucket because that just feels incomplete.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
They have the more like obvious hole to fill.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Is your team with your team's X. Maybe this is
the exercise, is your team with your team's expectation done?
Because I think Houston's fans expectation is that they are
not done. Although I've heard them talking about the salary cap.
I just it's hard for me to think that this
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is their outfield.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I know the way they like do things with a
lot of their free agent pursuits is shorter term deals
and all that. As has been discussed with why they're
even moving Kyle Tucker and he's not a free agent
yet and losing for nothing all that, But you would
think they can find some one or two year outfielder
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to add to this mix, Like I get it, and
for what Santera santan Terra ended up getting, Like sure,
they probably weren't going to be in in that game,
even though on field he's a fit there they can.
I would think they can find somebody to be a
one or two year for now.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Let's put them in the other bucket. They have World
Series expectations and they currently have an outfield that two
of them were negative war players last year that don't
have incredible baseball cards. So I'm gonna say Boston and
Houston still have expectations of work to be done. Kansas
City Royals, they could be done, right, they could be done.
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Jonathan India, Michael Lorenzen, they could be done. And I
think Royals fans would have their expectations. Angels, Let's be honest,
we don't care. Sorry, Minnesota kind of entered that same
boat pretty quickly. That's that's tough. I'm just gonna skip that. Sorry,
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Twins fans, they're.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Kind of not done in the other way where we
kind of expect them to do a subtracting movie.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Get uglier, trade an outfielder to Houston. I guess. I
guess this is the interesting point of this exercise. I
think Yankee fans, if this is it, we're not smitten,
but we'd be like, Okay, this kind of hit our expectations.
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You lost Soto, Wow, you got Max Freed, you got
Cody Bellinger, you got Goldie like Devin Williams. Yes, if
this is the Yankees offseason, they've done enough for the
fan base to be satisfied, and yeah, I guess that's
the point. I don't think Boston's there, and I don't
think Houston's there. They trade away Kyle Tucker. He's really
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good Seattle, My god, how do you answer this? The
fan base is expectations I think, unfortunately have been broken
so much that this is what they expect. Donovan Solano
is listed as their third baseman every day.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Happy what this is.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Let's put them in a side bucket. If this was
a tearless there would be a box that was labeled Mariners,
because that's fal Rays are luckily a quick skip. Their
fan base expects nothing.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
They're always they're always done, and they're always not done.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Texas Rangers, I think they could roll the ball out
there tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah, I think they'd feel a little thin in their bullpen,
but I guess for this exercise, all things considered, they
have a lineup they really like. They have a rotation
that's enough to like. I think Texas they could be
done and that would be fine. Your final American League
team is the Toronto Blue Jays, where they started this conversation.
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If you're a Toronto Blue Jay fan, I think you'd
need one more move, and it would have to be impactful.
It would have to be Dylan Cy's from the Padres,
it would have to be Pete Alonso in free agency,
which I like them for. If you're trying to keep Laddie,
Pete and Santander Man, you could have just added seventy
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homers like kind of easily. So we've talked about the
Toronto tacks a little bit. If Pete is willing to
sign on that line, especially if he's in one of
those like Cody Bellinger Matt Chapman three year with opt
out deals, if you can pump those numbers up a
little bit. I mean, if Pete goes nuts for you
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next year and hits fifty and opts out, that could
almost be a win. So I don't think so Boston, Houston,
Toronto and a weird side car bucket with Seattle. I
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just don't know what you do with that at all.
But I think there's three teams in the American League
that you can expect more moves to happen, impact moves,
otherwise they would have a disappointing offseason. In the National League,
Arizona is really tricky because we were told that Jordan
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Montgomery trade would happen from their owner. Essentially, if they
were done, I think they'd be fine. They have room
for a DH, that's the whole thing. But if they
rolled into the spring training with this team, I mean
the conversations we would have about their pitching staff, Burns, Gallon,
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Kelly e, Rod Fott, and Monty. They've got some bullpen depth.
Their lineup was like the best lineup in baseball last
year and they they lost, but they retooled. I think
Snakes would be okay.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
They definitely could be done, like the all the Snakes says.
I talked to Dalton, like they there's holding out some
hope of like does Monty leaving and open up some
payroll and make room for the for Pete getting that
weird deal with them, Like they're they're holding out hope
for more, but I don't think they're at all expecting more,
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which is what we're talking about here.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, I think I think the point of this is
if the Diamondbacks rolled into spring training with this team.
Sure there's a tweak. I think Monty for a good
DH first baseman, dinonback fans are very open to if
it doesn't happen, I think Arizona's like we got Corbyn Burns,
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we traded for Josh Naylor, like we had an offseason
that it kind of blew out their expectations. So I
think Arizona for this exercise, I would half consider out
the Atlanta Braves very interesting. The current current outfield platoon
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of Brian Day, La Cruz and Jared Kelnick doesn't have
Brave fans through the roof. It's interesting. I believe in
the Braves still. Remember they were supposed to be the
shortstop team Willia Domis, Hassan Kim. Their rotation is currently
Saale Rinaldo Lopez, Spencer Schwellenbach, Grant Holmes, and Ion Anderson
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Spencer Schreider. At some time, maybe next year, Iranie's gonna
be back. They're interesting. I don't know the answer.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I think with their history of like being aggressive mid
season traders with a D, I think they could be done.
That's the caveat of they'll do stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Doesn't pass the sniff test. Man. They lost Max Free,
they lost Charlie Morton. Don't know is what it is.
All the position players look scary, but that's just because
they were adding guys.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
A lot of mid season ads in that department.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Braves fans, let me know. I think I might leave
them in the middle area for now.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Feels like they could use one more bad and I'm
sure I would guess their fans are asking for another arm.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, it's just I mean, what what are they truly
banking on? Is Ion Anderson bounced back Grant Holmes, I,
I don't know. They lost some reliable pieces that I
would if I had to pick, I would lean they
still have to do something like the Phillies are here,
the Mets are here. I don't It's just been a
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lot of loss for them. They still obviously have an
amazing core. But yeah, I'm I'm gonna if I I
guess this is where it was. If you're a Braves
fan and this was your off season, I would not
be satisfied. Definitely, not definitely not so okay with that
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hat on, I will put the Braves in that bucket.
Chicago Cubs an interesting case. I think all in they
would be happy or satisfied. Excuse me. They got Kyle Tucker.
That was the impact move they've been waiting for for
a while. Matthew Boyd for some rotation depth. Sure, if
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this is the team they were in the spring training with.
Then you're a Cubs fan, you can talk yourself into
the offseason. Kyle Tucker, we've played this game before, is
probably their best player since Chris Bryant. Hobby Baya is
one of his seasons. Rizzo, Yeah, I think Cubs fans
would be Okay, they did just trade Michael Arius to
the Yankees. Well watch out since he guys know I
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love my Reds. Could they be I mean they Brady Singer.
The lineup's a little funky. I've talked about them, probably
too much. I think if you're a Reds fan, you'd
be like, Okay, our pitching looks solid, the hitting feels weird,
but let's see what these young guys can do. Gavin
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Lux people forget Yeah. I think if you're a Reds fan,
you're not like through the moon, but you're like, yeah,
we had an off season.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
They are not sitting here saying we needed more.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
If we don't do another move, this offseason was a failure.
They're not saying that where I think the Braves fans
could kind of say that.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Braves fans like expected them to do something they kind
of have not.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
The next two teams can happen oddly quick. The Colorado
Rockies who have just agreed to minor league deals with
Keston Hira and Nick Martini.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
They took care of their Tyrostrada business early. Yeah, Kyle
Farmer too, and Trev's kind of guys.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I don't know. There's some young ballplayers. I just wish
the whole tone was different. Anyways. The other end of
the spectrum is the Dodgers that they could be done.
They could have been done a while ago, and their
fan base would have been happy. Marlin's unfortunately irrelevant, kind
of rude. What goes on with that whole franchise. And again,
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if you're one of the people that's been mad at
the Dodgers for the past twenty four hours, days, months, years.
For Padres fans, the Miami Marlins should be a cash cow.
That's that's ownership. That's ownership. Go look at go look
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at what they are currently putting on the field. They
don't have to do that. I think if Miami put
a team together, I think people would go.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
They made the playoffs two years ago.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, eighty four.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
And a weird, weird year, weird format. But like the
steps back, they've taken from that point.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Not reading you their lineup. The Milwaukee Burs unfortunately in
a similar boat, but for good reasons. Everyone kind of
believes in what their front office does. If they are done,
Bruers fans are like, Yeah, let's roll it out there,
let's win the central again. Mets fans, I think they
go in the bucket. Yes you got Won Soto, Yes
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you just signed aj Minter, you have starting pitching options
right now. The bottom of their lineup is listed McNeil
Sirian Batty. If I told you that four of their
six current starters where their fifth starter next year, you'd
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be excited. If I told you that those four same
starters were there three starter next year, I don't think
you'd be excited. So again, I think the Mets are
gonna tap into the Brewers pitching factory that they built,
and I think that there's gonna be solutions there that lineup.
Like they lost Pete. I know it wasn't a massive
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year for them for Pete, but they still lost Pete
that I don't know. It feels like they have another
move in them, and I don't know if that's Pete
or Bragman. Both fit, but like if you're doing the
Sodo part of this, you have to do a couple
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other parts of this in my opinion, but the Mets
offseason is also just a massive win. They signed Wan Soda,
kat Ma and Iah Okay. Put them in the Mariner's bucket.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
They're kind of the Mariners bad.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
They hate that tier list and would both franchises be
very confused while they're lumped together. The Philadelphia Phillies could
be good. They've they've got their core. Max Kepler could
be a sneaky When there's a sneaky signings of the
offseason list, watch out for that. Uh Jesus Jesus Lozardo
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as there as they're five. I guess that's what I'm
saying where the Mets. If the Phillies are currently the
team you're keeping up with, If you're the Mets and
the Braves, you can't be ecstatic? Is that a weird
word to say? Why do I struggle with that?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
A static ecstatic?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Ecstatic Phillies fans are fine. Put Pittsburgh in Seattle on
the same boat and row it out to see crazy
San Diego. Limiting circumstances outside of baseball that I don't
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know could the San Francisco Giants fans be happy enough,
I think so. I know they want more, but justin
Verlander culture shift, Willia domis you extended, Matt Chapman, Jung
Hooley should be back. I think as a Giants fan,
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you always want more, but they check the boxes for you.
Saint Louis Cardinals fans, they're kind of handcuffed that I
guess they don't expect anything. So again, that's the whole
part of this exercise that I think they'd unfortunately be okay,
do they have enough pitching? Kind of?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I think they're nervous. I think their fans would probably
be nervous if they were to do something. How about
this is going to direction They don't want to.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Go, that's fine, but they still have to do it.
Like for how much they've heard about Aaron Otto and Hellsley.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yeah, yeah, the Aeronauta thing, and dude, how long are
they gonna hear Brendan Donovan and Nolan Gorman.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Like Trader like in theory whatever this list would look like.
Maybe the Cardinals and the Mariners and Pirates deserve each
other do something.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Kind of need to do something.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Do something. The Mets in Red Sox would be together
as like good off season, finish it, Yeah, that would
be okay, and then these guys are do something. Cardinals
talking about you know, Donovan Burlson in there said somebody
else like you're guys that like it sounded like a
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early guy sound. It sounded like their arbitration process is
going not the most smooth, which seem like they're heading
towards extensions with those guys or just that would have
counted as doing something right like lock those up and
there's time for that, But usually the precursor for that
is like, well the yard process went well a lot
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of times, that's a sign of the extensions coming. And
oh they're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
They're not seeming like they're gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, them, them, and so they kind of need to
do something. Them Pittsburgh and the Mariners are literally just like.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Figure out what you do.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
It's like a mystery box that you're shaking, like what's
in here? What's the fine?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
What is you guys should be doing something.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
The final team a team that leaves me oddly smitten
from time to time. The Washington Nationals. I like Nathaniel Lowe,
Josh Bell a little low, low risk, low reward for me,
would have liked some of the little juice here there
Soroca Trevor Williams. Okay, okay, again, their expectation this year
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still hasn't happened, so they could be done. Do my
hands look massive right now?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
A big hand thing?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Though? Should I start holding my hands like this? Just
do that? Looks like they're the size of my whole body.
Maybe it's just a little body thing. Now I'll go
little hands. That's not comment which kind of hands you like?
Such on YouTube subscribe at the end of that exercise.
In the American League, Boston, Houston, Seattle's in the shakem Bucket, Toronto.
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Th I think those are the three. If we're doing stuff,
which we are clearly doing, we have to do even
one more thing, just one more thing, and that loop
feels closed. In the National League, Atlanta, but they kind
of don't. They've proven though they can address their needs
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during the season if they need to. But Atlanta is
the one I feel the least confident in, and I
just kind of had a presidential thumb come out. The
Mets are very much Boston Houston, and they kind of
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shouldn't be listed with Toronto, but in this exercise they
kind of are. And then yeah, and then there's just
the junk pile of Pittsburgh, Saint Louis and Seattle.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
So yeah, Lanta in a weird spot with like who
has to do something kind of Dodgers have also just
kind of sent everyone running.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Is Pete Alonso gonna sign with one of the teams
in the need to do something bucket? Probably right or
in the weird bucket that's Blue Jays. I mean, people
are making up Mariners rumors because they should do that.
There's no actual Mariners rumors, And anytime you talk to
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a baseball person, they're like, what about Pete and the Mariners? Yeah,
they just have to do it, So okay, okay, the
full bucket. Then I'll even bring in the odd ducts.
If you gave me DraftKings lines on will pe Alonzo
signed with one of those teams? I would say yes.
Alex Bragman also yes, Jerkson Profar. There's just a San
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Diego outlier effect that I don't know what to do with.
But if Jerkson Profar ends up on Toronto, I won't
be shocked.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Toronto Houston.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Houston would be a fit like those are the two
teams I like the most for him that aren't San Diego.
Boston was supposedly ruined for him, and so was Atlanta.
So if I was betting money, I know I'd be
willing to lose that one. But yes, Hassan Kim, maybe
that that whole thing's gotten a little weird, hasn't it.
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Jack Flaherty, I don't know, Jackson an interesting spot. Yeah,
go to the Braves, Yeah they might. There was some
rumors about that.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I remember if there was some flurry around around a
month ago.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I feel like Favetta, I don't know, we're starting to
get into a different area of free agents that with
Pete and Bregman, and I guess, Profar, I guess if
those teams don't fall in that bucket, there's gonna be
some different hmm, not different. I don't know, teams feeling
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in a weird spot. Bregman and Pete are Mets Toronto
and Boston. Pete not Boston.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Almost certainly not. Yeah, I feel like there's just a
one percent psycho factor of.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Like, yeah, pirates get Pete.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
It seems.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Not a rumor, not a single goddamn rumor.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Give him an actual deal.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Hey, I hope you guys kind of like that exercise
because I do. And we're in the final steps. Is
as relievers are starting to sign, there's like three impact
hitters three and a half Hassan Kim, what's happened.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
That we are?
Speaker 1 (41:39):
We're kind of towards the end line. So let's see
how that plays out and the rest of these days.
Who gets it figured out before spring training? Who's gonna
have the weird answering questions at spring training? I hope
it's not my guy, Pete Pete to meat. Until then,
there are three more football games, and two of them
are this weekend. Let's talk about them semi high and tight.
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If you made it this far, thank you so much.
Please subscribe. Appreciate it. You guys are the best. This Sunday,
January twenty sixth, the Washington Commanders, as everyone had are
playing the Philadelphia Phillies in the ihladelph Philadelphia opens as
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six and a half point favorites. Buffalo is going to
Kansas City. Kansas City is a two point favorite in arrowhead.
The first game we talked about. Saw these teams play recently,
and the Washingtonton Commanders came back in the fourth quarter
with twenty two points to win the game. There was
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some jade and Daniels magic five touchdowns. On the other
side of it, the Eagles had three turnovers, but so
did the Commanders. Or no, the Commanders had five turnovers
and the Eagles still didn't win that game. So I
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think both teams are looking at this like, Hey, the
Eagles are saying, we didn't play our best game. Let's
go get this. Canny Pickett had twenty four passes in
this game, so that is something significantly different on their side.
The Commanders, they're saying, let's not lose three fumbles and
have two interceptions and we won that game. It's going
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to be fun. It's a pure test of the rise
of Jaden Daniels and how special you think he is.
And the Commanders have some things breaking out. They've had
defensive pieces come back in their secondary. It seems like
there's always a different guy in their front seven making
play dan Quinn, depending which glasses you have on on
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a given day. We went through it a little bit.
It's a pretty nice coaching history, except one game that
somehow he gets blamed for more than the offensive coordinator
who gets called a genius a lot. Anyways, buckle up.
I I've been on the Eagles for a while now.
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You guys listening to the football portion of Wake and
Jake know that. I just think they could hand it
off to saquon every play and they'd win the game.
I legitimately think that, and I don't think it's crazy,
and I think that's the wild part. I think it
opens up big plays for Jalen Hurts. I think twenty
is the amount of passes they want in a game,
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and they've been living in that area. You saw Hurts
run for a forty yarder the other day. That. I
just think when the Eagles want and they lock in
and they focus, they can get every first down, they
can score on every possession, and they just sometimes have
these moments of laps not a great word, and everyone
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kind of looks at Sirianni and may that's a part
of it, but also maybe it's part of this. We're
gonna jam it down your throat and beat you with physicality.
That has fueled him to be one of the winningest
coaches in NFL history. And man, Saquan is that guy,
and that offensive line are those guys and Jalen Hurts
as a running quarterback. Is that guy I'm not gonna
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pick against the Eagles. I think I think them having
knowing in their head that this Commander's team can literally
steal a game from them like they did last time.
I don't want to say, you know you're gonna get
ultimate focus in a championship game anyways, but them having
that to look back at knowing Jalen wasn't there. I'm
on the Eagles and there's a reason that they're almost
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a touchdown favorite. I think America will be rooting Jaden
just because rookie quarterback actually carrying the team. There are
some fun stats that the the other rookie quarterbacks to
make it this far. I think their teams were both
top five and special teams and defense. The Commanders are not.
So what Jaden has been doing is very special. It'll
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be fun to watch because with that target, with the
Eagles d line, with the way they can run the ball,
if Jayden and the Commanders and Cliff Kingsbury, if they
can control it and get first downs and wait for
them to make the mistake, very exciting. I'm still Iggles
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and the team that has been lurking there all year
that nobody's known truly what to do with. Is the
Kansas City Chiefs hosting the Buffalo Bills, and this is beautiful, man,
the Bills who have been waiting for their shot at
the Chiefs. This is the Bills at the peak of
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their powers that we've seen. Josh Allen is head to
head with Lamar, who they just beat for the MVP Trophy.
He has been on god mode all year competing with
Lamar to be the and Joe Burrow, which everyone got
in on late of playing the best quarterback in the
NFL this year. Mahomes wasn't in that conversation. Statistically, they
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are heading to Kansas City and the Chiefs who keep
winning these close games and it feels like every game
is the same game and it's deja vu. And are
the refs on their side? There's some statistics that say
the refs aren't on their side. But last game had
a couple tough moments. Mahomes trying to draw the flop
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that was really tough to see. It's like, come on, Pat,
you can't be doing that. I'm okay, We're kind of
okay with the refs half protecting you, you can't lean
into it. If there's a year to do it. For
the Buffalo Bills, it's this year. If I didn't know,
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if you erased my memory and didn't tell me the
Chiefs won the last two Super Bowls, I'd be picking
the Bills. I think the way they've played this year,
how beautiful their offense has been. Josh Allen can throw
on the Superman Cape whenever they need otherwise, He's got
options to go to. Cook's been really good. Their other
running backs have been good. Kincaid knocks a Marii Cooper.
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They Mary Cooper hasn't even been a part of it.
Khalil Shakir Really, they just have a ton of different
options that Alan can get it to whoever he needs
to win to. For me, it's a game of can
the Bills. Can the Chiefs keep up scoring with the Bills?
Like the Bills are a high powered offense, I'll go
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down with the ship though. I love Andy Reid, I
love Patrick Mahomes, I love Travis Kelce, I love Chris Jones.
Spagnolo is going into the Hall of Fame as a
defensive coordinator. Andy Reid's going in as a head coach.
Pat's going in as a QB, Travis Kelsey going in
as a tight end. They've gotten some reinforcements in their
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secondary Chris Jones and how devastating he is on the
D line. And I just think going back to the
Bills Ravens game last week, if that game was played
in Baltimore, the Bills do not win. The Ravens would
have won that game. If that game was in Baltimore.
Arrowhead's a nasty place to play. It's some of the
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worst weather like in the world, A little dramatic, sure,
in the livable world. Arrowhead this time of year is
a brutal game and a lot of those guys have
played in that. That being said, the team in Buffalo
has also dealt with elements. But how loud that place
is going to be. And something that's stuck with me
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just a little bit was Tony Romo calling the Bills game,
and he kept pointing out moments where the Bills audibled
to different plays that they could do at home that
they wouldn't be able to do on the road because
of how loud and rowdy it is. Kansas City's got
a huge home field advantage with the best quarterback to
ever play, and a guy a head coach that's going
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to enter the realm of one of the best head
coaches to ever coach. I've been walking around the office
all week saying, I don't know who I want because
I wanted to get convinced to the Buffalo Bills. I'm
worried for them that they're playing the same guys. I
won't go against them. I will go with the Kansas
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City Chiefs Eagles, which I've I'm not gonna take credit
for the Chiefs because I flip flopped in the AFC
a chunk this year. You guys know, I like the
Ravens a little bit. But the whole time, the Chiefs
have been lurking, and they've lurked themselves to the spot
where they lost one game where they were trying. It
was to the Buffalo Bills though, so that obviously has
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such appeal to it. Alan Mahomes doing it again and
we'll see whatever Super Bowl matchup is going to be
great and the storylines are going to be the Just
a reminder, Chiefs are going for a three peat and
no NFL team's ever done that, So maybe that should
be in the back of our heads just a little more.
That's insane. And it's been a quiet Chief season kind of.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Last year, like sneaky little too, a little bit outside
of Kelsey Taylor Swift stuff. Last year's year. They're supposed
to not not do it, and they did it.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Super Bowl proposal, people are talking. Enjoy the football this weekend.
We'll always see what baseball has to offer us, and
we'll see it's almost that time. I feel like I
watched a little NBA last night. College basketball is in
a really weird spot. Not ready to talk about that. Hey,
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