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May 17, 2023 42 mins

Draymond Green discusses the exciting Game 1 between the Lakers and Nuggets, the Victor Wembanyama sweepstakes, the end of the Warriors season, and Ja Morant. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. What's up, everybody, Welcome back to the Draymond
Green Show. Spent a long time man, long time since
we have had a healthy Dubs team, and we're sitting

(00:22):
and talking about the conference finals and not a part
of it.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Very weird.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Really tripped me out today when I opened up my
Instagram and like, I saw guys walking into an arena
and I'm like wow, That's when it really hit me, like, yo,
we're really done, Like the season is still going and
we're not playing. Start texting Chris DeMarco like yo, this
is weird.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Like.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Nonetheless and saying that already getting excited for next year,
but also things to work on. But more importantly, I
would say, things to work on to get better at
this summer, So looking forward to that. Just to get
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Speaker 2 (02:23):
Now let's get into the show. Nuggets versus Lakers.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Joker got off thirty three, twenty one and fourteen all bid.
He had pretty much those numbers going into the fourth quarter.
I think entering the fourth quarter he had thirty one,
nineteen rebounds and twelve assists, And so he finished with
two points, two rebounds, two assists in the fourth quarter.

(02:50):
That is very important. And hair's why that's important. The
only two points he did score, by the way, were
the two free throws were ten seconds to go or well,
you have two or ten seconds to go in a
couple more. But the reason that's important is because.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
We're gonna talk some adjustments. We're gonna do all of
that here.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
But the reason that that's important is because when guarding Joker,
in order to beat them, you have to pick one
of the one or the other. You're not going to
completely shut him down score if you're also trying to
take away his passing angles. And if you're trying to
take his passing angles away, then he'll go score.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
So you have to make a decision.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
When we played them last year, we decided that we
were going to take all the passing away. If you
keep Joker under six assists per game, like, your win
percentage goes through the roof, and if he gets above that,
your win percentage plummets your chances of you winning. But

(03:56):
also the actual numbers. It's like n Day, It's like
Warriors versus at home versus Warriors on the road. It's
like that drastic, and so you have to choose one
or the other. And I was a little baffled that
he started off the game I think at halftime like

(04:17):
seventeen point seven assists eight. No, he had ten rebounds
in the first quarter, maybe twelve rebounds or something. Thirteen rebounds.
You can't do that. And so because if he's getting
assists any scoring, then that means all the other guys
are getting off. And if all the other guys are
getting off, how do you stop it. Jamal Murray had thirty,

(04:39):
KCP had twenty one, Bruce brown got off. I think
Bruce brown Man had twenty points. Michael Porter Junior had
a good game. And so like, if you're allowing all
of those guys to get off, plus Joker doing what
he's doing, you're going to have a very tough time
beating them. And so what the Lakers do and what

(05:00):
I'd expect to see more of, is they took ad
off of Joker and they put a d on Aaron Gordon,
who lives in a dunker, which is tough for your space.
And if you're playing in a crowd, like Joker actually
plays in a crowd, lives in a dunker and they
put a D there.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Well, what did that do?

Speaker 1 (05:23):
That allowed Ad to stand at the rim, which we
know if you haven't watched either of their two series before,
first one being against the number two seed Grizzlies and
the second one being against yours truly the Doves. If

(05:43):
you leave a D by the rim, that's a problem.
If you allow him to stand at the rim, that
is a problem. And so they made the adjustment of
putting Rui and really Rui on Joker and putting a
D on Aaron Gordon, and Ad muddied up everything. It
caused him turnovers, a couple turnovers where Joker was still

(06:06):
trying to get the ball to Joker was still trying
to get the ball to Aaron Gordon and the dunker,
but he didn't really have much space. You'd like to
see him playing space a little bit more and actually
just shoot over the top of Rui instead of trying
to get so deep because of the deeper position you get,
the closer you are to Ad, the deeper position that

(06:27):
Joker gets, he's just working his way right into Ad.
And then you're trying to throw like big, the big
passes in the paint. AD's length is nearly impossible to
get big the big passing around AD's length, and then
obviously he tried to get one over the top that
caused the turnover. And when Joker was successful offensively, it's

(06:52):
when he's catching the ball in the mid post. Then
that allows him to move the defense that allows when
Ad was guarding him, and it allowed him to make Ad
move his feet or Ad has to give him a
step and he can shoot his hierarcher. It was much
better than him catching deep when he caught deep post touches.

(07:13):
Like most of the time, when you get two feet
in the paint, especially Joker with his touch, when you
catch the ball with two feet in the paint, NBA
teams are taught swarm because guy's going to score this.
That is actually to Joker's detriment in this series, because
the deeper you are in the paint, the more Ad

(07:35):
can get his hand on either for a deflection or block.
You saw Joker a couple of times had Ad in
the paint banged him and actually moved Ad back, and
Ad just put his arm up because there's not much
room for Joker to get anything off, and it's not
much room for any deception like Joker against a d

(07:55):
with AD's lengthy has to be deceptive. And when you're
that deep in the post that there's no room for
any deception. So that's the AD's advantage. The deeper that
joker catches the pass. Joker whenever he caught the ball,
if you remember, whenever he caught it, like off the block,
he had the quick spin baseline on a d A
couple of times. That actually got a bucket a couple
of times. A couple of dunks. He got a AD

(08:16):
to file a couple of times. So it's going to
be mutt. And then if they switch to Ruie. If
he catches in the mid post, you the gate ad.
If he's off the block, because a d can't get
to the he AD can't get to to block the shot.
He can't affect a shot at all unless he comes
all the way over. And by the way, if he
comes all the way over, now you can get the

(08:39):
ball to Aaron Gordon and the dunker or they'll drop
down to help and you can kick it out. The
shooters they had guys shooting the well. Jamar Murray shot
it well, KCP shot it well. Bruce Brown shot it well,
Jeff Green shot it well, Michael Porter Junior shot it well.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
So then you're kicking out to those shooters.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
So they must keep Joker off the deep posts, keep
him off the block. He has to play in space,
either from the free throw line or mid post area
in the words of Mike Brown, the Karl Malone area.
And if he can play in that area, and it

(09:18):
allows them better space, and it allows him to work
more in space and use his advantage, whether it's the
advantage he has on a D which is his deceptiveness,
or if it's the advantage he has on RUI, which
is not the deception, it's disage. So that will be
very important. Jamal Murray getting off, So it's going to

(09:43):
be very important that Like, you can't have Joker and
Jamal Murray getting off. When you do, they are tough.
I expected to see more Jared Vanderbilt on Jamal Murray.
I also expected to see Jared Vanderbilt. That's an adjustment
you can watch for Jared Vanderbilt guard Jamal Murray, put

(10:04):
who you may on Joker ad on Aaron Gordon. See,
there are times in the playoffs where you have to
play guys off the floor. And if Aaron Gordon wants
to live in a dunker, the Lakers should be able
to use that to play Aaron Gordon off the floor
because it's clogging everything up. I thought Mike Malone could

(10:28):
have made more adjustments in game, adjustments, one being there
was a point where you kind of needed to get
Aaron Gordon at the game end, should come Jeff Green.
If in comes Jeff Green. Now, Jeff Green's hitting that
corner three. He hit one or two of them tonight,

(10:49):
But Jeff Greens, Jeff Green can shoot the corner three
well enough to where you're comfortable throwing it to him
and him taking it and the defense has to react
to it. Now you can ultimately decide that we're going
to live with Jeff Green beating us shooting that three.
But we all know Jeff Green can make that three,

(11:10):
and he can make that three very consistently. So I
thought there was a point where Aaron Gordon may have
needed to come out the game and Jeff Green needed
to go in, and they didn't make that adjustment, and
turn I thought that almost cost them the game because
Ad muddy the entire game up. But getting back to
Jamal Murray and Jared Vanderbilt. If you put Jared Vanderbilt

(11:32):
on Jamal Murray and say you have even Brin on Joker,
and now you switch that pick and roll with ad
at the rim, now you got action. Now you're keeping

(11:53):
a d at the rim. You're keeping the body in
front of Joker. You're keeping the body in front of
Jamal Murray because they also will kill you in that pocket.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Joker catches the ball in the pocket.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
His touch is crazy, and he's one of the best
passers in the NBA, so it's lunch met when he
catched the ball in the pocket. With that defensive coverage,
it takes that away. It allows you to better contain
Jamal Murray. Maybe, yes, again, Joker's probably still going to
get off, but it's okay because you're you're containing Jamal

(12:24):
Murray and you're not allowing the kickout passes and all
the other guys to get going. Another thing that really
hurt the Lakers, especially early in the game was transition offense,
their transition defense. The Lakers transition defense is not their
stringth and Denver knows that. And Denver was pushing the

(12:48):
pace also taking advantage. For those of you who have
never played in the Maha City. Let me tell you
that altitude is real. You feel that, I'd expect the
Lakers to be a little better as far as you saw.
The game went on, they started to get their lungs
and catch their win. But they'll be better with that
come game two. But that altitude get you. It's a

(13:12):
very real thing. All of a sudden, you get to
looking for air and it ain't there, Stan.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
And All.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
It's brutal. Trust me, if you've never done it, it's brutal.
So that's a real thing. That is a competitive advantage
for the Nuggets. It was tonight. It shouldn't be come
game two, but it was definitely a competitive advantage for
them tonight. Lakers should adjust to it now, and being
in Denver for four days or so, come game two,

(13:42):
I think you know they'll be. But transition defense has
still been not been one of their areas of success.
I'll call them. In Denver, they pushed the pace and
they convert at a very pushing the pace. I thought
the Lakers did a better job of taking away to

(14:03):
transition opportunities in the second half, in particular the fourth quarter.
So that was that offensive rebounding was another issue for
the Lakers. Offensive rebounding usually becomes an issue when you
are overhelping. I thought they overhelped on Joker a ton,

(14:26):
and some of the overhelping was like you get caught
in no man's land, like you're not taking your guy
away and you're not really affecting Joker. Like, if you're
gonna go help, then just go double because if you
just sit in between, he's picking that a part, Like
that's what he does.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
So if you're going to go.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Double, then go and like try to make the passes
tougher so that he just has to kick it out
instead of actually making a play. But I thought they
got caught in no man's land a lot and getting
caught in no man's land, like I said, joke gonna
pick that apart. Another action that the Nuggets ran and

(15:03):
got a lot of is called the Spineulus action. Uh
Spinulus is a is a Greek national player who played
for twenty years euro League. Was drafted to the NBA
after by the Spurs or it's one of the Texas teams.
He was drafted by, maybe by the Spurs or Dallas
in a playing year with Houston or something of that nature.

(15:24):
But he's a Greek legend and he was famous for
this cut that you can essentially come from under the
rim and you're cutting up the lane and there's a
big holding the ball, maybe at the free throw line,
possibly a little higher, but right in the middle of
the court, and you're coming from under the rim, so
up the floor and the big hands it off to

(15:44):
you well as you would imagine all the defenses down
the floor. So once you hand off coming out, you're open.
Jamar Murray got some threes like that. Casep got a
couple of threes like that. Michael Porters Junior got a
couple of threes like that. But they it also allowed
them to get downhill. When they got downhill, now ad

(16:05):
has to make a decision. I'm gonna help with this
guy coming downhill. Well when if you help, guess what
that opens up again? Pocker pocket to Joker. So they
were really good with the spinulus action. There's different ways
to get into it. A couple of times they backscreen
looked like Jamal Murray was seting the backscreen for Aaron Gordon.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
If you don't react to that.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Jokers obviously dumping the ball over the top for an
Aaron Gordon dunk. And then there's a couple of times
where that guy is pinning down and he's coming off,
and so it's a double pin down or you got
to navigate the backscreening now he's coming off Joker. Like
I said, they have multiple guys who got shots out
of this pernulus action. If you make the adjustment where

(16:48):
there's like a smaller guy Guarden Joker, then you just
switch that action out.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
And then you still keep everyone in front of Joker.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
You keep the entire offense in front of you, and
you are able to make those guys score one on one,
not getting buckets off Jokers greatness, Jokers dominance. So those
were so many adjustments that I thought could have been
made or or should could be made and could have

(17:17):
been made. And like I said, remember you've seen us
play guys off to Florida playoffs, like you can play
guys off. And like Aaron Gordon is the key guy,
he has some officer rebounds, he got size, he's the
primary defender on Lebron.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
James.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Is Jeff Gordon as good of a defender on Lebron
as Aaron Gordon. Bron still had a big game nobody's
shutting Bron down. That's not gonna happen. But Aaron Gordon
his stature helps, especially at this point in Bron's career.
His stature does help, his size helps, and like I said,

(17:52):
it also helped on the offensive boards. So there you
have that the Lakers. I think the Lakers number one Bron.
If you remember back to our series, I spoke about
Bron not predominantly being on the ball, playing.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Off the ball more. If the Lakers want to win,
Bron has to play on the ball.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
They want to win this series, Bron has to have
the ball all the time, making all the.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Plays as you saw down the stretch.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
You saw some of it in the first half and
the game was kind of close, and then they pulled
away a bit when Bron went out the court. Off
the court, Bron has to dominate the tempo, he has
to dominate the pace. He has to get the Lakers
into everything. Ad had a big game. He had forty points,
ten rebounds on thirteen for twenty one. I also think

(18:49):
Ad is going to need to take more threes this series.
He has not taken many threes in these playoffs. I
know everyone always talks, oh he shouldn't be taking a three,
and that is advantage. That is an advantage for the
other team. And by the way, if you're the other team,
you have to live with that. But I think for
AD's sake, also for their team's sake, Ad is a

(19:10):
good shooter. He's obviously had his struggles, but Ad can
shoot the basketball. I don't think anyone disagrees that Ad
can shoot the basketball. And they're going to need a
d to lose, soften that defense up some and take
some threes. They're also going to as you saw late
Austin Reeves got going, They're going to need more threes.
Why are the Lakers going to need more threes? Because

(19:32):
Denver has so much length. You saw Michael Porter Junior
getting a couple of blocks. Michael Porter Jr. Is not
a great defender, Michael, but because they have great length,
the paint is so clawed. Now he's able to catch up.
He got a couple of review challenge blocks. Some of
the interior passing they was trying. It's tough, KCP. Their

(19:55):
guard has great lane. Michael Porter Junior sixteen, Aaron Gordon,
great lane, Joker, great lane, Jeff Green, great lane, Bruce
Brown six 's four sixteenth, some crazy wingspan, great lane,
Christian Brown all over the place, plays bigger than what

(20:15):
he is, also great size, so the interior stuff gets
tougher and tougher. So I think they're going to have
the like they're going to need some three point shooting.
I would not be shocked if darvinham goes to Malik
Beasley and see if he can get something out of
Malik Beasley. Malik Beasley hasn't played much during these playoffs.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Will he will he.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
At some point, probably at home more so than on
the road, because he's more likely to get going at
home than on the road. So maybe that's the game
three things. But they're going to need more three point
attempts just because of the length of the of the
Denver Nuggets.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Now where bron.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Who can manipulate the game, can manipulate difference defense, sum
is getting Michael Porter junior as the lowman.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
What's the lowman.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
The low man is the last guy on defense, the
guy who's rotating over. That's called the lowman weak side lowman.
So say, for instance, if the ball is on the
right side of the floor and Michael Porter's junior man
is in the left corner. Then that would make Michael
Porter Junior pull over and be the low man. They

(21:28):
can have some success with Michael Porter Junior as the lowman.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
He's not very.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Comfortable garden in the paint sometimes missus defensive assignments and
will fall asleep on the weak side action. More likely
to fall asleep than if you have a Bruce Brown
as the lowman or a Christian Brown or KCP Aaron Gordon.
Michael Porter Junior is more likely to fall asleep as
the lowman and bringing Michael Porter Junior into actions because

(21:59):
he's less of a defender. If you do that, their
whole defense just loads up, and they're so accustomed to
everyone bringing him into action that they actually know how
to guard that. So you need to put him in
more uncomfortable situations and making him be the rotation guy,
making him be the guy on a single side tag
and different things like that. Those are the things that's

(22:21):
how you can exploit him defensively. And if you can't
explore him defensively and getting him off the court a
little more, that's less shooting that they have because he
shoots the light side of the ball. That can help
your defense. So that is also something that I think
the Lakers can do. They need Lebron to be dominant

(22:44):
on the ball. It's not necessarily that he's scoring, but
they need him making every play. They need to manipulate
and get Michael Porter Junior and help situations. That's how
you can exploit his defense. That's how you can take
advantage of it. That's how you get less minute from him.
That is how you ought to when when you when

(23:05):
you start talking about the chess match, right like you talk,
you always hear people talking about the chess match. That
is a chess match move. I also think I saw
a little bit of darv and Ham going back to
a D whenever jokers in the game, making sure AD's

(23:25):
on the game. I would not be afraid to take
advantage of some of those non joker minutes with a
D on the floor. I think you can create some
separation in doing that. So I do understand why he
is on the floor. You know why you want him
on the floor when jokers there. But in saying that,
I think you want to take advantage of some of

(23:48):
those non joker minutes with a D on the floor.
I also expected to see more offense defense subs, especially
from Mike Malone down the stretch andicular Coach Malone. They
were taking advantage of Jamal Murray. They were putting him
in every screen of row and they were dominating. And

(24:10):
there were a couple of times where he could have
taken Jamal Murray out and maybe went Bruce Brown. Maybe
when Jeff Green, I would go Bruce Brown, and they
just left Jamal Murray in and turn he ended up
with five files foul trouble. That'll be something to watch
for immediately from the gate. They're going to bring Jamal

(24:32):
Murray into pick and rolls now. Jamal Murray said after
Game one of Phoenix, are y'all gonna take me serious? Like,
at what point do I have to stop proving myself?
And quite frankly never. You always have to prove yourself
because that's just the game we play, and it's what
have you done for me lately?

Speaker 2 (24:52):
And then he struggled for most of that series.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
So we gonna have to see Jamal Murray put together
another game or to two or three in this series.
Starting with game two. They're gonna need another big game
from Jamal Murray. But another way to slow that is
to bring him into actions the way they did late
in that game. Now, all of a sudden you wear

(25:16):
on them legs a bit. Now all of a sudden,
you're making him guard and he's not just playing one
side of the floor. That is something that I would
expect from the Lakers, and I'd expect, you know, maybe
they'll go into a show. Maybe they'll go Jamal Murray
on Dennis Shrewder and so where you don't have Austin

(25:38):
Reeves popping and making the shot. They also can go
if he pops and they going to a full rotation,
that would be the next man in line rotating over.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
When I said the next man.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
In line, Say if Lebron James runs a pick and roll,
Austin Reeves sets the screen on Aaron Gordon, Austin Reeve
pops Aaron Gordon, and Jamal Murray's now in the hour,
if Bron throws that ball to Austin Reeves, say Dennis
Schroeder is on the other wing, A full rotation would
be Dennis Schroeder man taking Austin Reeves. Then say there's

(26:12):
a guy in the Corey corner, Ruey Hotchamira, Ruy Hotchamira's
man will now rotate too, who was the guy, Dennis Schroeder.
Jamal Murray would then sprint all the way out weak
side to get to Ruey in the corner.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
That would be a full rotation.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
You can do some of that, but the Austin Reeves
Lebron pick and roll really hurt them late. Then you
also may say, we're gonna live with Ausin Reeves hitting
that shot because three point game and they needed it
and he missed it, so you can depend on that,
But dicey, because Austin Reeves threes actually was a big
factor in them getting back in that game.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
So you can say, all right, we're going to make
Schroeder hit. It will show with Schroeder.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
But what's not the answer is just switching it because
he's gonna get in foul trouble much sooner.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
They're gonna work on those.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Legs, and as they can, he continues to take those bumps,
those legs go away, so we'll see where they go.
There another big thing in the game and end up
being costly. Jokers three at the buzzer Jamal Murray's three
at the shot clock buzzer. Those were five points at
a time in the game that were very critical where

(27:30):
the Lakers were making a push, and those were just like, ah,
it's like if a guy's making you know, if you're
in boxing and the guy's making a run, all of
a sudden they get hit with it like a tough
body shot to slow them down a bit.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
And those were just like tough body shots for the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
And ultimately what ended up being a six point game
that was five points that very unlikely five points. You
played great defense and they hit tough shots. Guy to
give them credit on that. Can't overreact to that. But
I definitely thought the Lakers found some things to be
able to exploit this team a little this Denverer Nugget

(28:11):
team a little bit more. We'll see how the adjustments go.
We'll see what adjustments they decide to make. But one
I definitely expect is ad on Aaron Gordon. Aaron Gordon,
you cannot just live in a dunker. Another thing that
the Nuggets will be able to do with that is
possibly run Aaron Gordon into some screens, pull a d away,

(28:36):
got Aaron Gordon rolling. He can finish, but can he
make the play out of that consistently? I personally, I'm
the Lakers I'm gonna live with Aaron Gordon making the
play and not Joker. Like we know Joker can make
to play. So you got to live with Aaron Gordon
make to play and can he beat you? And can

(28:57):
he make the right decision enough if you're the I
don't know. We shall see. And I think that is
all of my adjustments or things on the Laker game.
In other news, we had the draft lottery today. Very

(29:18):
happy for Coach Pop. As you all know, Coach Pop
is my guy. We want to go metal together. Got
nothing beloved for Coach Pop. And then also know that
Victor when Byama is going to have an incredible coach
that's going to teach him the NBA game that's going
to require him. He's going to one of the best
developmental staff in the league. Although Coach Pop knows this,

(29:44):
I would think and everybody should. Losing Chip England which
was a year ago, it's a tough thing. Chip is great,
but got Chipper, but the best developmental staff over years
in the NBA. One of I will say, you know,
he's going to have a seriousness about him. You know

(30:04):
he's going to be taught how to be a great pro.
He's going to be taught how to read the game.
I think it's absolutely incredible. And we also know Coach
Pop's history with number one picks, big Man, that's number
one picks to be exact, the last one being Tim Duncan,
who we arguably top five player, and then be a history.

(30:26):
So I was happy to see that for Coach Pop.
Watch out for that. Congratulations Coach Pop. Congrats to the
Spurs on taking the number one pick. There has been
a lot of talk on is Wenby the best prospect
since Lebron. I've saw some people say he's the best

(30:47):
prospect ever? Is he the best prospect since Lebron? I
think we'd all agree is he the best prospect ever?
Of course everyone's going to say that now. But let's
not forget how big of a prospect Lebron James was.

(31:07):
Lebron James was a fena from fifteen years old. Lebron
James was the number one pick as a fifteen year old.
I can't quite say Victor when Beyama was number one
pick as a fifteen year old.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
So although we like to move on fast to the.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Next thing, I'm just not going off no going off
the rail and saying he's a better prospect than Lebron. However,
he is probably definitely the best prospect since Lebron, and
probably the second best prospect ever because Lebron's probably number one. Also,

(31:48):
we tend to forget what type of prospect Lebron was
because he did the unthinkable what we thought of him
as a as a prospect. He actually outlived and out
did what we thought of him as a prospect. So
it's very easy now in today's day and age, just say, oh,
he's a better prospect than Lebron because you forget how
big of a prospect Lebron was because of how much

(32:10):
he's done. But Lebron was a huge, crazy prospect. So
that's that. Jackson asked me how many players would would
not be traded or would yeah, would not be traded

(32:30):
for Wemby in the NBA. I'm not sure how many,
but there's definitely a few. Lebron wouldn't be, Steph wouldn't be.
Can't say, I don't think Luca would be, Joker wouldn't be,
and I think there's a few more names out there,
but maybe four one hundred and eighty how many players
in the NBA now?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
He used to be four to fifty.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Now you got two way spots, so let's just say,
for the sake of standard roster spots, four hundred and
fifty spots, four thirty five for forty would be, which
is saying a lot, saying.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
A whole lot.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Wishing him the best. Congratulations, kid, You've been drafted to
the San Antonio Spurs. Absolutely incredible, going to a great franchise.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Good luck.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
In other news, uh, Coach Kerr and you probably just
saw me speak about this on steven A's World, So
I'll be pretty brief here, but Coach Kerr said in
his interview, if Draymond's not back, we are in the
championship team. He's that important to winning and who we are.
I definitely agree with that statement. And then he also
spoke on the Jordan Pooh thing, and I also agree
with that statement. I was happy that he spoke on that.

(33:47):
If you want my answer, you can go check it out.
Like I said, I'm not gonna do the same thing here,
you can go check it out.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
It was very in depth answer of my thoughts.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Quick synopsis was that, yes, I do agree, we'd still
be playing if that thing didn't happen. I gave reasoning
for why I agree with that, and I was very
appreciative of coach Kirk speaking on that because I'm just
not one to hire from anything. But in saying that,
if coach kurtr never speaks on that, it's also hard

(34:18):
for that to ever come out because I'm not going
to be like, I don't want to be the guy
who's like, what this, this, this, and this on a
situation that's wrong.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I don't feel that that's right. And so it allowed
me to speak on it.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
It allowed me to now move on from it, like
really move on from it, Like you put it behind
you during the season and you try to build things
and move on. But now it allows to really like
move on and like there's still work to be done, right,
like George's still my teammate, Like I still have some
repairing to do, like and attempts to repair ultimately, you know,

(34:50):
being up to him and what he's hoping to But
it saw me as a leader and saw me as
teammate to continue to try to make that right and
his feelings, his feelings. I saw his comment where he said, listen,
is basketball. I agree, it was business. It was basketball,
and it's always going to be that because at the
end of the day, we are teammates. Like, as long
as we're teammates, it has to be that. But it

(35:12):
is my job to try to better that. And like,
let's face it, like if the video never comes out,
is here, I don't think so, right, Like so, I
think that was a huge, huge thing, one that made
it really hard for him to move on from. Will
he ever be able to move on from it, I
don't know, but it is on me to try to

(35:33):
make that happen. But I'm happy to be putting that
behind as far as this goes, like and like moving
forward and working to do the things that we need
to do to win a championship again next year.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
That is my focus.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
That is my goal. Happy to be done with that
before we get out of here. John Moran. I saw
Adam Silver speaking. Adam Silver look crushed. He sounded crushed.
I know he is crushed because Adam, like Adam is

(36:17):
a player's commissioner, like have been since day one, and
so a part of him, like I'm sure it's just crushed,
like because he's like, come on, man, like, like he said,
they had a long conversation and it's just I thought
we were like past this and we spoke about it then,
and so now it puts Adam in tough for such
and Joe Dumars puts them in such a tough spot,

(36:38):
like what's the punishment going to be?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Now? And like you have time, like.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
J'all don't have a game coming up, you have time
to make that decision. But it is going to be
a substantial one. It is going it's going to be
one that affects the Memphis Grizzlies season. It is like,
I'm not again, I've had my mistakes, Like obviously not that,

(37:04):
but I've had my mistakes. I'm not one to come
on here and condemn and you shouldn't be doing this.
You shouldn't be doing that. I don't condone what Joah
has done, but what I will say is I saw
a couple of people screaming, like lock him up, lock

(37:25):
him up, Like it's actually not illegal to have a
gun a lot of places in America, So to just
start screaming lock him up, like you all actually don't
know if he broke a law, like you actually like
you don't know if he had a license. You don't
know if the gun was licensed to him. You don't

(37:46):
know most people probably don't know whether it's an open
carry state or not in and.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Tennessee. You don't know where he was and if.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
It's an if he was in Florida and it's an
open carry statum, like you don't know none of those things.
So the whole like lock him up, he's a thug. Stuff,
like let's stop, let's stop it now.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Was he wrong? Absolutely? You can't, like stay off.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
I just don't understand, like like why they're on Instagram
Live so much, like like I just.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Don't get it.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Like, by the way, once you were in trouble the
first time on Instagram Live, you guys probably should stay
away from Instagram Live. Like it hasn't proven to be
beneficial at all, And so everyone's saying it's irresponsible. Of
course it's irresponsible. Like you have a following and you're

(38:49):
trying to build a business, like a substantial sneaker business.
Kids drive sneaker sales, kids' parents buy shoes, and those
children parents aren't impressed with what they're seeing. So it's

(39:14):
like stop it or don't build a business. It's unfortunate
that this keeps happening. It's unfortunate because it's giving off
like this gangster.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Type vibe, like.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
It's given that And like I said the last time,
I'm not going to come up here and say, Joe,
you're not gangster or you're not this because I don't
know him well enough to know what he is. I
don't know what he does in his spare time after
do you. I don't know what he is. I'm and
also I'm not a gangster, so it's also like I'm

(40:03):
not a gainster. I'm a basketball player, so I can't
speak on like who's a gagster who isn't because I'm not,
So how can I speak on that? Which oftentimes I
tell you people you don't know basketball like we know basketball,
so you probably shouldn't speak on that. It's not my
space to speak on whether jaz A gains or not.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I don't know what like would qualify him or not
because I'm not. I don't make those rules. I don't
live by him. That's not my space, so it's not
my place to speak on that. But at some point, though,
you just can't keep doing that. And a lot of

(40:43):
gangsters I do know aren't flashing guns on instrument make
of it what you may. It's unfortunate. I hope he
figures it out. I don't think he's going to stop
carrying guns, so I hope, I hope. I Like, if

(41:03):
that's his thing, that's his thing, Like again, it's not
my place to whatever. If that's his thing, that's his thing,
he probably won't stop, but stop showing them, Like, at
some point, you gotta stop showing them like that. It's
actually getting you in trouble. It's actually get into a

(41:25):
space to where if it continues, could possibly cost you
in a career. And like way too talented, way too
special for that. So like some point, you gotta stop
showing them. I don't know, we'll see I wish him well.
That's a wrap from this episode of The Draymond Green Show.

(41:48):
I'll let you out later.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Peace,
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