Two Ts Presents: The Eds: Husbands Know Best

They are the “better halves” of Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge… but do we REALLY know Edwin Arroyave and Eddie Judge? 

Who met their in-laws in a McDonalds parking lot?  Who fell in love at first sight? 
Eddie and Edwin are telling all!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is The Eds with Eddie Judge and Edwin Ado Jave,
the husbands know Best two Teas production. Hey guys, welcome
to The Ed's podcast. My name is Eddie Judge and
I'm Edwin ari Jave.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
If you're listening to this podcast, you probably know we
are the better halves of Teddy and Tamera, but not
a lot of people know much about us other than
what they've seen on TV. So let's get into it.
We're going to start today with getting to know each other.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Sound good? Yeah, no, it sounds great. I'm excited to
get this thing started finally. Awesome. Awesome.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well, let's start with a few questions. I want to
know a little bit more about you, Edwin. Where did
you grow up? So?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
I was born in Bota, Colombia. My parents and I
came to the US when I was six years old
in search of that American dream. However, that American dream
quickly became an American nightmare because, due to some unfortunate circumstances,
my family lost everything we had, so much so that
at the age of fifteen years old, I had to

(01:05):
become the head of household. And at the time, I
was lucky enough to get a job working at a
call center, which was probably not the best ideal type
of job for me because I was very shy and
I was very timid, But I quickly got the courage
to do this job I did not want to do,
just out of my desperation to help my family out.

(01:27):
At this point, I was just tired of seeing my
mom not be able to pay for the rent at
the end of the month. I was tired of us
running out of food at the end of the month
because we lived on food stamps. I was tired of
my siblings, mother, and I living in this tiny little
bedroom without any windows. And finally, I was just tired
of like roaches waking me up in the middle of
the night. So really, the avoidance of pain is what

(01:50):
caused me to take on something that really demanded more
than I thought I was worth at the time. And
at the time, even though I was very shy and
I was very timid, the one thing that I did
have going for me was I was a big dreamer
man twelve years old. I remember my mom would go
to work and I would just stay home by myself,

(02:11):
and I would visualize how one day I was going
to make one hundred grand a year by the age
of twenty one years old. I didn't know how I
was going to do it. I just knew I was
going to figure it out, and it just kept thinking
about it all the time, I became obsessed with it,
and so sure enough, when I got the job at
fifteen years old, I just started focusing on what I
could control, which at the time was my activity and

(02:34):
my attitude, and I just had faith that the right
people would come in front of me to sort of
make the impossible possible. Was sure enough, I became the
youngest manager in company history. At that point. I started
making some pretty good money at the time from a
kid from hunting in Park I was. I started making
about one thousand dollars a week. But more importantly, I

(02:54):
became the right hand of the VP of sales of
that company. And then three years later, he comes in
in my office and he says, Hey, I'm going to
start this home security company and I'm going to resign.
And he says to me, I can't guarantee you the
seventy grand a year that you make here, but if
you make this work, you can possibly be double, triple,
quadruple what you make here. And the first thing I

(03:17):
thought was, well, first of all, you don't have to
be that smart to be to make six seven figures
a year or eight figures a year. You just have
to have common sense and drive. And that's exactly what
I did. I used common sense. I said, this guy's
making two hundred and fifty grand a year and he's
resigning because he thinks he'd make millions in this industry
that's untapped. Second thing I thought was, man, if this

(03:40):
guy's willing to mentor me how to start a company
from the ground up, I'm like, this is exactly what
I needed because I didn't graduate. I didn't go to college.
I graduated with a one point eight gpa, and I
just needed a mentor at the time. And then lastly,
I was just a huge Like I said, I was
a huge dream. I remember, I would always ditch school,
which is probably why I ended get up with a

(04:01):
one point eight gpa. But I literally would drive to
Beverly Hills in Hollywood Hills. I did spif sixth period
go to Beverly Hills, Hollywood Hills, and I was just
I was like, WHOA, people look different here, people dressed
different here, The food tastes better here. And what was
interesting what got me to Hollywood Hills and Beverly Hills

(04:24):
was this is back in nineteen ninety five, and Ricky
Martin was a big hit back then, Like all the
ladies wanted Ricky Martin. So I remember reading this magazine,
I think it was US Magazine, and it talked about
Ricky Martin shopping at employ ARMANI. So I looked up

(04:45):
in Poyamani. I'm like, oh, that's in a Dale Drive.
Let me go drive over there, and maybe I could
Maybe if I started dressing like Ricky Martin, maybe the
chicks would pay more attention to me. So that's actually
how I ended up on the West Side from the
East side. And it was kind of like a pretty
woman kind of scene in that I literally walked into

(05:07):
Emporio Ramani with size forty two five oh one jeans,
So my waist size was forty two five oh one jeans,
some Harley's and a wife beater and and that's how
I walked into the store. And funny enough, the guy
that basically took care of me became a really good

(05:27):
friend of mine and like started hooking me up with
all these deals at emporio. So I started dressing nicer
and and yeah, gross started paying attention to me once
I started dressing a little nicer, so it kind of worked, right,
But anyways, that's how it started. And so when I
got that opportunity, I everyone told me I was crazy,

(05:50):
because how are you going to leave this job that
pays you, you know, seventy thousand dollars a year, with
a four one K plan and all that good stuff
for this unknown But my dream was bigger than any
excuse that could make on why I wasn't going to
take the opportunity. Another part of my dream is I
promised my dad at ten years old that when he
got out of jail, he'd never have to work a

(06:11):
day in his life. And I promised my mom at
twelve years old that one day I was going to
buy her house. So again, my dreams were bigger than
any excuse that I could give myself on why it
couldn't happen. And I took the plunge and I went
after it, and here we are twenty five years later.
You know, the company's made over six hundred million, and

(06:33):
just last year alone and did two hundred million, and
we're just we're sort of just getting started. But it took.
It took it definitely took a leap of faith.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
That's amazing, That's really incredible.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
One. I want to go back a little bit too.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
When we started about your story where you were with
your family, and one of the first questions I had
was did you have a mentor guide you through your dreams?
Because having a dream is one thing, but you know,
executing on that dream and figuring out how to get
there is really the key, right. And you don't need

(07:07):
a Harvard degree for that. You need, like you said,
you need will, you need tenacity, and then you need guidance.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Right.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
So you answered that question by telling me that this
guy that took you under his wing and said, hey,
you want to make a million dollars, let's go open
up this business. My question to you is how did
that work while you were still living with your parents?
I mean before you started making the seventy thousand or
one thousand dollars a week? Were you still living at home?

(07:37):
Were you inspiring your family? Were you driven by trying
to get out of that?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah? So I was a great question. Yeah I was
driven because at ten years old. So what happens when
we first came to the US. Two weeks after coming
to the US, our home got raided by law enforcement,
and that day both my parents ended up in jail,
my sister and I ended up in a foster home.
And then eight months later my parents get acquitted of

(08:06):
all charges, and now my sister and I think that
this nightmare is over. However, the nightmare was just beginning,
because every year after that, our home would get raided
at least once a year. And then finally, when I
was ten years old, so my dad would go to Columbia.
They couldn't catch them. He'd come back and back and forth. Finally,

(08:26):
when I was ten, they were able to arrest them,
and this time they put them away for a long time,
and the cops were nice enough to allow me to
talk to him before they took him in, and his
last words were, son, you need to become the man
of the house. And when I turned fifteen, I could
finally legally go after a job. I just started applying everywhere,

(08:49):
and the thing was, no one would hire me because
I was so shy and timid that during the interviews
I'd get so nervous that i'd start stumbling my words,
and then I'd sweating, and then so they probably thought
I was on drugs. So finally a buddy of mine
that knew my situation says, hey, when I found this company,
they hire anyone, just show up and I promise you

(09:12):
that they're hire you. I'm like, are you sure. It's like, dude,
I sent the last seven people there, They've all gotten hired.
So I of course get all excited. I drive down
to this job interview, and at the time, I had
a Nissance Central that had no air conditioning and had
those roll up windows, so it was kind of a
hot day. So I get in there and I'm thinking,

(09:32):
oh man, I'm already hot, some kind of sweating, but
not too much. And I'm like, I hope I don't
sweat in this interview. Well, sure enough, two minutes into
the interview, the guy is handing me over a paper towel,
and I'm thinking to myself, oh shoot, he's noticing that
I'm sweating. So then, of course the sweat just comes
full throttle. I look like I ran a marathon. And

(09:54):
this is why whenever I do speak on stage, I
never see me dress in white, because that day I
had a white shirt and you could see through the
entire shirt. Is that's how much I sweated during this
interview and I don't get the job. So I remember
walking back to my car and I was just discouraged
as heck. And I go into the restroom to kind
of clean myself up, and I just start pointing to

(10:16):
God at the time. I just say, hey, God, I
need a shot. Just give me a shot. I promise
you if you can find if you can help me
find a job, I'll work harder than anybody's ever worked.
And I promise you I'll always praise your name on
an opportunity if you just give me the opportunity. And
sure enough, as soon as I get out of that restroom,
there's a gentleman outside and he says, hey, kid, when

(10:38):
do you start? I said, I don't start. You guys
are completely full and he starts laughing. He's like, who
told you that? I'm like, well, the guy just interviewed
with it takes me over to the HR room. He says,
I need you to hire this kid. I need him
to start tomorrow at three pm. And I started it
the next day. But here's the crazy part. That same
person is the same person that's six years later helps

(10:59):
me start the security company. So I'm literally I'm a
firm believer that in life, people just need one shot.
They need a system, They need to believe, a leader
that believes in them, that's going to be patient with them,
that's going to show you how to do it. And
that's It's exactly what happened to me. So I always
tell people like, look, guys, if you guys want six

(11:21):
seventy figures a you're whatever you want to make, you
need two things. You need to find an opportunity that
allows you to make that kind of money. Because if
you can't find an opportunity that it allows you to
make that kind of money, what makes you think you're
going to make that kind of money? And then the
second one, which is the hardest one, is you need
to find someone who's done it before, who has a
vested interest in your success that's going to help you

(11:42):
do it. And if you could find that person, you're
pretty much going to make it unless you just don't
work hard. But the hard part is most people that
make that type of money aren't going to take you
under their way and show you exactly how they do it.
So you know that was my story. I'm literally the story,
like person gave me a shot and I ran with
it and I never looked back. That's amazing. And do

(12:04):
you ever wonder.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Why this person gave me that shot or did it
just kind of manifest as the journey began? And I mean,
obviously you ask God, and God placed him there and
he gave you. He answered your your prayers. But uh,
what was this guy seeing your did?

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Did he? Did he ever tell you?

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Like I saw your your potential, I saw your energy,
I saw what you have or what you wanted.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
I honestly think that the whole time they did hire anyone.
It's just that I got so nervous that the guy
in the HR room probably honestly thought I was on drug.
This kid breaking? Why can't you stop sweating? What the
hell is wrong with this kid? Yeah? And I just
think when he saw me, it was more of like,

(12:51):
we need bodies in here, let's get this guy in here.
And then I just you know, I took on this
like mindset of an overachieverer. I just was I was
going to outwork you. I was gonna I got obsessed
with like repetition and you know, instead of getting I
got energized by it and I was gonna outwork you.

(13:11):
I was gonna you know, I took I went to
all the I basically just I started showing up to everything.
Like most of the people that were way more talented
than I was, they would always they'd never show up
on Fridays, they definitely never showed up on Saturdays. I
like showed up every day. There was these leadership development

(13:34):
programs that they had, they never showed up. I always
showed up. I remember I just went up to the
top guy in the whole company and I said, hey,
I went with my little radio shock recorder and I
was like, can you just record your pitch for me?
And he recorded it. I literally learned that thing verbatim.
I learned it word for word, and I basically kind

(13:57):
of took his confidence. I started to talk like him,
I took his tonality, I started to basically walk like
him like everything. And I got my confidence from that,
because really in life it's just confidence. The more certain
person is always going to influence the less certain persons.
So that's how I kind of got my start.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
That's amazing, that's truly a you know American dream story
where you know, rags the riches, you just worked your
ass off, And I can't emphasize enough how important that
is for people that don't have the opportunities to grow
up with money and you know silver platter and you
know Ivy League schools and all that. It really is

(14:40):
a combination of hard work and tenacity.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
What I think a big part of that too is
we did have some money and then it all got
taken away, because again, can't improve on something you're not
aware of. But I think you know, growing up, I
did have a taste of what having some money felt like,
and then all of a sudden, like we don't even
have enough money for food. Whereas like if you don't

(15:04):
know any better, like you don't know the difference, and
you don't know what you don't know, right, But once
you know, you're like, wait a minute, this is why
I want to work my butt off. Like you know,
you've never flown first class, Like you're probably not going
to know what that feels like, so why would you
want to go work your butt off to go get
it right? But like once you do, you're like, wait
a minute, this is kind of where I belong. I

(15:26):
need to go work my ass off to go make
that happen. Let's hear about you, man. I know you
have an awesome story as well, so would you grow well.
I grew up in Anaheim. I was born in Mexico.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Came at the age at I think age two, and
this is going way back, but I'll condense it. I
I think this is one of the reasons why my
wife loves me because of this story. Came to America
with my family, and I'll never forget. We lived in
a garage with you know, a bed, and it was

(16:05):
my aunt, my grandmother and myself and these family in
Fullerton was kind enough to allow us to live there
for about six months.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
I believe.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
I don't know the exact timing because I was so little.
You know, everything you know just happens. But fast forward.
We worked our way up to an apartment and then
from an apartment to a house, and then moving from
city to city. But for me, I think what lit
a fire under my ass was my aunt telling me

(16:35):
at the age of thirteen, saying, hey, you know, you
got to start contributing.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
You got to get a job.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
And I'm like a job, I'm thirteen, Where am I
going to get a job, just like go down the
street and start mowing lawns or something.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
But you need to work. And I'll never forget that day.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
That's actually when I met my adopted dad, and we
share this story together all the time. We talk about
it because we were in business together at one point
and I'm sitting there on my bike looking at him,
asking him for a job, and he's like, a job,
what do you want a job for? You play with
my dogs all the time and you're always having fun.
You're just a kid, like, well, I need to make

(17:13):
money and I'm all your lawn And he's like, okay,
well what do you want to get paid?

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Like, I don't know, you tell me what I want
to get paid.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
And it was that conversation that we had at that
moment that we always go back to and we have
our stories that we talk about, you know, how we
met and I said, how about ten dollars? And I
started mowing lawns for ten dollars and then doing jobs
here and there, throwing the paper Sundays sock because the
paper was so big, and then and then he started

(17:46):
renovating his home, so he hired me on the summer
and I picked up one of my friends and go
work with him. And we were just standing this old
nineteen built, nineteen sixties home down to the wood and
just working our ass up to make a living so
we can go hang out and pick up chicks. You know.
Everything was driven around you know, what motivates you, and

(18:06):
at the time, of course girls were motivating. But he
was my mentor was he just graduated law school.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
He was doing very well. He was working all the time.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
And one of the things that I told myself when
I was a kid is I.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Never want to work that hard.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I never want to work, you know, twelve hour days,
sixteen hour days, and have no life. And it wasn't
until I graduated high school and I went to go
get a job that I realized I don't have any skills.
I don't have anything, you know, to give to anybody.
So nobody would hire me. And I got to the
point where I went back to work with my now
father and he gave me the opportunity to go to school.

(18:46):
So I went back to school, started working on business
and I was, like you, very shy. I was afraid
to talk to people, you know, I had somehow I
had opportunities, but always very shy. And I took a
course in college, funny enough, for acting. And the reason

(19:07):
I took that course is because I wanted to get
my confidence standing in front of an audience and talking
about whatever I needed to talk about. Because my vision
was one day, I'm going to be standing in front
of people in a nice suit, talking business whatever that means.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
But you know, that was my vision.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
And so the acting classes really gave me that self confidence,
especially drama. Drama really helped me get into myself and
what makes me tick, what makes me emotional. And it's
really hard to cry on the spot, it really is,
but those are the skills that I picked up that
really got to know who I am as a person,

(19:47):
what makes me happy, what makes me sad. And I'll
never I'll never regret that moment where I learned who
I really was because of these acting classes. Now I did,
I did do some acting and you know, some show
I was on stage and all that that contributed to
my confidence and it was a lot of fun. I
got what we will call the acting bug, you know, like, oh,

(20:09):
I want to be on stage. I want to be
you know, a lead singer. I want to be a
lead role. And then I tried acting for the camera
and that was nerve wracking. I just I there's something
about a big lens looking at you in your face,
you know, going Okay, do something, and.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I'm like, I don't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
And and and it's and I struggled with it. But
from there I just went on and started working with
my father. We started building his practice from the ground up.
I think we started with like four employees or three employees,
and by the time I left the firm, we had
about thirty five employees, over three thousand cases, maybe four

(20:49):
poor attorneys working for us, and I was, you know,
I was leading that business.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
It really taught me so much.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
I started from being a file clerk to you know,
working on cases, to managing a team to you know,
managing the firm. So it gave me a huge It
was it was like one of my girlfriends at the
time said, that's your MBA. You just got your MBA
running a business like this. So for me, the thing,

(21:18):
the biggest takeaway from that was the complete opposite of
what I thought as a kid, I don't want to
work that hard, you know. When I got to the
point where like, I got no other option but to
work that hard. That's when my life changed. That's when
I started working hard. And that's when I realized, even
if I have to work twenty four hours a day,
is I'm going to have to do it because I
have tasted the finer things in life. I do want

(21:40):
a nicer car. I do want to fly first class.
I do want to go to the finer restaurants, you know,
And that was exactly what motivated me at the time.
I want to be, you know, wealthy. Growing up with
nothing was a big part of it too, Like, hey,
I didn't have anything growing up, barely had any clothes
to go.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
I mean, I didn't even have hand me.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I'm not going to wear my aunt's clothes, right, and
she's only a couple of years older than me. But
the struggle was, I think what led me to push
myself to always work my ass off, and it got
to the point where, you know, I think it took
us about thirteen years to build this practice up, and
it gave me the confidence that I could do anything,

(22:21):
anything I want to do.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
And then that's probably when I.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Met my wife, you know, it was it was a
life changing moment for me because she's here, she is
on this national television show, and she's telling me she
wants to open up a business. She doesn't know what yet.
It's either a fitness business or a bar. And I'm like, well,
I don't know anything about alcohol and being a health

(22:46):
not all my life. I don't really want to, so
let's go with the gym, even though I know it's crowded,
crowded space. I did do personal training, I think in
my early eighteen nineteen years old, and again I learned
real fast, this is not going to pay the bills.
This is a great business. I love helping people, but
it's not going to pay the bills. So yeah, I mean,

(23:06):
it's it's for me. It was it was being hungry
and wanting the best for myself or my life because
I really didn't have a father that was there for me.
I had an adopted father that I you know, took
me under his wing and taught me what I needed
to learn, which was to work hard. If you want

(23:26):
the finer things in life, you got to work hard.
And nine to five is not enough. That's not working hard.
And and I think that was what my prayers, how
my prayers were answered. I was just thinking, how am
I going to do this? I can't get a job.
I can't nobody's going to hire me. I have no skills,

(23:47):
and you know what am I going to do? And
it took meeting the right people in my life path
to get the answers and see the path right and
getting there. But that's that's I think that's the biggest
lesson I learned in my life and businesses. You can
have all the energy and desires and dreams and visions

(24:08):
you want, but if you don't know what route to take,
it's going to be a tough route. It's going to
be a really tough route. But when you meet the
right person that sees your vision, whether it's one person
or many, you become very powerful, very very powerful.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
So yeah, well there's there's someone you said there that
I relate to, you know, I think you know what
I've realized is what gets people to sort of move
and finally take action towards what they really want to
do is number one, the avoidance of pain, right where
something's just hurting you so bad that you just you're

(24:45):
not tolerating it anymore, or like the pleasure of where
you're going. So for me, it's always been both, right,
the avoidance of pain, Like I was just tired of
roaches waking me up in the middle of the night.
I was tired of us sleeping in that bedroom.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
But the other thing I did, which sounds like you
did as well, was knowing the pleasure of where I
was going. And I called that like touching the dream
before you have what you need.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
You know, you mentioned that you got a little taste
of kind that good life, and it's what sort of
made you think, Okay, well I need to go back
there because it's a lot different from them from where
I came from. So, and then the other question I
had for you, can you still cry on camera? No?

Speaker 2 (25:30):
I never was able to. That was the problem. So
I needn't become an actor because I couldn't cry my camera.
The instructor was like, yeah, you're not going to make it.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
You got to that point.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
It was the hardest thing. I mean, what I could
do ed when was singing dance. That was my fun.
I could do that all day long because that was
In fact, I do remember distinctively getting the bug after
a show and people there's nothing more exhilarating so far
in my life than getting this any evasion from an
audience after you just perform your ass off. You know,

(26:05):
maybe speaking public speaking would be the same, but it's
such a rush. It is an incredible feeling. You feel
so successful and you feel so admired, and it's.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
A great feeling. It really is. So speaking of that,
it's so funny. So at seventeen years old, I was
a background dancer for a drag queen and we were
called the Pretty Boys, and we would basically go to
all these nightclubs in Hollywood and we would perform at

(26:36):
twenty one and over clubs, and we're probably the worst
background dancers ever, but it was Yeah, like you said,
you're on stage, you kind of get that feeling. You're
like wow, and then you know, at that point, like
chasing women was like my thing, you know, so it
was like, Yes, I want to do this. Whatever is

(26:56):
going to get me close to women, I want to
do it. That's awesome. That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
So how do you think your culture has helped you
and your success? I mean you touched them a little
bit about if if you were you had money at
one point and you lost it and you made it and.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
You lost it.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
How has your culture really helped you, you know, drive
in this world in America?

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Basically yeah, I think, yeah, No, I think for me,
even though like it was rough growing up, the one
thing that my mom did that was great for me
is she always gave me a lot of love. My
dad gave me a lot of love. So and they
put me in sports, and you know, that taught me

(27:45):
how to compete. That kept me distracted from all the
bad things that probably could have gotten into living where
I grew up. But you know, showing me that love,
I think really and showing the you know, one of
my da would always tell me like, hey, you got
to take care of your mom, Like, no matter what,
you got one mom, You're going to take care of

(28:06):
her and no excuses. And at a very young age,
I just got the culture was like you take care
of your family first. And I've always been very close
with my family. You know, my siblings are kind of
like my kids. I've been taking care of them since
I was fifteen, and I've been taking care of mom
and dads for a while. But it's what drives me today.

(28:29):
You know, I think, you know, if you live for yourself.
You can settle for less, but if you live for others,
it requires all of who you are. And you know,
I think if you're just living for yourself, eventually it
gets old. But when you got people depending on you,
it's it's that nice little push that that you need.
But yeah, no, and obviously the food's great.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
So you know, I have the exact same answer because
my family didn't have any money of a stuff obviously
growing up, and they also put me in sports.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
I had Pop Warner football.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
When I was I think seven or eight, and I'll
never forget we showed up to sign up for football
and they said, oh, well, his age group is all full,
but the next age group up is available, and I'm like,
I want to play.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Sure enough.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
I was the scrawniest little kid on this team, but
I was kicking ass because you know, I want to play.
And I'll never forget that day. Even my grandma was like,
you sure you want to do this as me whole
because they're bigger than you are going to run you over.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Like, I don't care. I want to play.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
But the most important thing that you said just now
that really stood out is the biggest thing I got
from my culture and my family is love. That just
one thing, that unconditional love that this family brings to
my life. And I mean that in a way where
because I had uncles that were into drugs and taking drugs,

(29:58):
not selling drugs, but just doing drugs, were just not
really great for society, and this is what I had
to look up to, right, So I don't know, at
one point, I just didn't want anything to do with that,
and I thought I got to get out of this situation.
I don't I admire especially my grandmother, who's ninety eight
years old now, she still talks about her children, these

(30:20):
adult children, as their little miholes, right, no matter what
they're always going to be. She's living in a home
right now, and she's talking about bringing them to live
with her so she can take care of them. Right.
Growing up, of course, I would be around all kinds
of people, you know, the jocks, the cheerleaders, the druggeries,

(30:42):
the smart people. You know, it's just the athletes at jocks.
And for some reason, I always enjoyed the different types
of friendships. But I never really was involved in doing
the drugs or selling the drugs or I would literally
go to my friend's house and and watch his parents

(31:04):
do drugs on their living room table. That's how I
was introduced to drugs, not because you know, my family
was doing them, but I was like, I don't want
to do that. I don't want anything to do with that.
So it's funny how your your your your situation is,
You're You're presented with this thing in front of me,
and you're like, well, what am I going to do
with it? Right?

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Do I punt? Do I sweep?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Right?

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Do I turn around and run away? What do I do?

Speaker 2 (31:32):
And as a kid, I I fortunately made the right decision,
and that was to you know, avoid all the all
the illegal stuff that was presented to me in front
of me.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
You mentioned you were shy, you were timid. How much
of your confidence came from women started to pay attention
to you. You mentioned when you were young, you started
like liking women, and you know basically what every teenager does.
Was that a thing for you? Women started liking and

(32:10):
you got some confidence from it.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
I think, if I go back, I had women that
liked me, but I never had the money to take
them out right, because it was you need money to
have a girlfriend, and I didn't have a confidence I
didn't have the job.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
I didn't have any of that.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
But what I started doing is working on myself.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
You know.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
That's the reason why I started working any job I
can to make money and to hopefully build some confidence,
because now that's the element I'm missing, right, And it
wasn't enough. It wasn't until after high school when I
started lifting weights and getting into bodybuilding and really and
of course acting classes and getting into who I am

(32:53):
as a person, what's going to drive me? That's what
gave me the confidence. That's when I started. You know,
I had the money, I had the looks, I had
the body, I had the car, and I started getting
the attention. But it opened my eyes to realize that
the woman I want to spend the rest of my
life with does not have to be a supermodel anymore. Right, Yeah,

(33:15):
she just has to be attractive and she just has
to't like me.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
So you know, it's funny. It's so funny you mentioned
this because the thing that Teddy gets pissed when I say,
I mean my wife. I think she's beautiful, right, but
I always say, like, the reason I loved you is
your marriage material?

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Well what age did you meet Eddy? Because you know,
I agree with everything you're saying, and for me, as
you're talking, I'm like, it took me till thirty five
years old to figure that shit out. I mean, when
I met Tarma, I was like, I'm over it. I
don't want to date any hot shakes in Newport Beach anymore.

(33:57):
I'm just going to make a bunch of money and
when I get old there I'll have a young hot
chick next to me and that's it.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
That's my life.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
You know, I've given up and suddenly this beautiful girl
falls into my lap. And it's a great story. I'll
tell you about it. But I don't think I settled.
I know you didn't settle. I mean, our wives are
pretty damn hot, right, and they are model material, but
they're just incredibly smart and incredibly driven, and they're so

(34:25):
unique in that. I can't speak for your wife because
I don't know her that well, but I know my
wife had her struggles. She had her first child at seventeen,
and she had that struggle as a single mom for
years and years and years, and it's a tough life
and that drives you to want to be more. You know,
she had a great upbringing and her mom and dad

(34:48):
were awesome when we just had this conversation, but it
wasn't until she was an adult that they got divorced
and that's when it really affected her. But here's a woman,
I think she's just turned forty one years old. I'm
thirty five and thirty six and we just meet and
it was love at first sight. I can't explain it

(35:09):
to you. I've only heard about it. But what happened
was my best friend, Marcos was he was my fitness
instructor when I started getting into teaching classes and all
that twenty some years ago, and he calls me and
he says, hey, bro, I need to borrow your house
cause I just bought this house where I live in

(35:29):
Right now, we're filming the show The Real Housewives of
Orange County and we're just looking for a house. And
I had furniture from my condo that I moved into
this place and there was rooms with no furniture, and
he's like, we're just filming, looking for a house to
move into, and I'm like, when did you get into filming?

Speaker 1 (35:48):
What?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Wait a minute, wait a minute, are you bringing Eva
Longoria to my house?

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Is this what's going on now?

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I'm excited, and he's like, no, no, no, bro, wrong show. Sorry,
it's the Real Housewives of Orange County. I don't know
what that is. But Mikasasukasa, I'll be here. I'll open
the door, and sure enough he comes, knocks, opens the door.
I look at this beautiful blonde. I see hearts, I
see sparkles, I see fireworks and and and my heart

(36:15):
rates starts just running and I'm like, what is wrong
with me right now? What is going on? And we
just locked eyes for I don't know, it felt like
one hundred years. And and of course she said the
same thing, like she thought I was not wearing a
shirt when I opened the door. On what I was,
and and Marcos always says, yeah, I had to kick her, like,

(36:37):
you know, stop you know, gazing because a you're married
and the cameras are on. It's like, oh god, it was.
It was such an interesting experience. And the sad part
is that she was still married. But that didn't stop
me from flirting a little bit, you know, asking, you know,
getting questions and sending her a Facebook request. And she

(36:59):
calls Marco's and tells him, tell him to take it back.
I can't take a Facebook creek Press because my husband
at the time, you know, he's he's watching every step
I take. And I'm like, all right, I guess I
was gonna help. It was a good looking guy friend
requested her too. That probably doesn't help. That doesn't help. Yeah,
So fast forward about six or eight months. The holidays hit,

(37:22):
and of course Marco's being the nucleus in our in
our circle, we start running into each other at some
of the same parties, holiday parties and all that, and
I start getting to know her a little bit more.
But we kept running into each other, and we kept
you know, locking eyes and smiling and talking, and it
was it was literally like we were meant to be,

(37:43):
but we couldn't because we had this guy that was
in the middle of it. And then I think New
Year's happened after that. She left them, and three days later,
Marcus says she's available, and I'm like, okay, we're going
to start dating. And it was probably a month after
because she had to get through this whole transition from leaving,
you know, her ex. It was about a month later

(38:05):
we had our first date in La Joya. I said,
we got to go somewhere where nobody knows you and
nobody knows me, you know, because I don't want anybody
to know this, you know, because.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
You're you know, you're on TV.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Then we went to this nice little restaurant I knew
about in La Joya walked around and I think somebody
saw us but didn't really say anything. They recognized her,
but we just kept walking. And it was then that
I realized, Okay, my life's about to change. This is
this is craziness. But being with her in public and

(38:36):
trying not to think about it, you know, trying to
have a regular, normal relationship conversation with this woman. I
think that was what really helped her understand that I'm
not after her for her TV status. I really want
to get to know her. And that's I think what
gave her the confidence, like maybe I'll give this guy

(38:57):
a shot, you know.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Because.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
It's a weird situation. Even today, it's hard to make
friends with people because she's shot on TV and you
never know why they want to be your real friend, right,
I always question it. I mean, she's taught me to
do that, but I'm pretty open. I will except for
I'll accept anybody for who they are, what they drive,

(39:21):
and what they do until they screw me or prove otherwise. Right, Yeah,
And I'm just open like that. So my wife though,
taught me you got to be careful with you know
why people want to be your friends.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
You know, It's funny I think when you know you
really like someone, when the last thing on your mind
is having sex with them, Yeah, Like you're so into
getting to know them, You're so into the conversation, You're like,
you know, the sex will probably come, that's not even
But like, if all you're thinking of sex sex from
the get go, that probably means you know, you're probably

(39:54):
not gonna like her very much, or you probably don't
really like her that much. When the last thing on
your mind is sex, you know you like that person.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, I agree. I think you hit the nail on
the head right there, totally. So how did you meet Teddy?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Well? Ironically, so with Teddy, it's actually pretty funny story.
So I was we were both we met at a nightclub,
and we were coming out of a nightclub fifteen years ago.
We were both beyond wasted, so much so that the

(40:29):
next day, when we woke up together in bed, we
didn't remember each other's names nor did we remember if
we had slept with each other or not? Like we
we sort of thought we did, but we really couldn't
confirm it right. And what's funny is that the next morning,

(40:51):
she's driving me home and she looks at me and
she says, and I don't think we like hats said,
And I said, why are you so certain? She's like, well,
I normally don't date guys like you. You're just not
my type. You're like wearing this low V neck, you
got long hair like and like I normally date like

(41:16):
blonde guys with blue eyes, and you're just not my type.
So I didn't acknowledge the statement, and I just thought,
in time, I went her over with my wit and
my charm, or so I thought, because literally eight months ago,
so this whole time, I'm thinking she was never really

(41:37):
that into me. Yeah, so about ten months ago, I'm
going through photo books and I run into Teddy's scrap
book when she was in high school. It's like a
vision board scrap book. So I started looking at this
scrap book and I'm thinking, oh, how cute. These are
all the things that Teddy was into when she was younger.

(41:58):
And I run into the page where she has cutoffs
of the people that her dream guys. And you can
only imagine my surprise when staring back at me was
Enrique Iglesias and Antonio Sabato Junior. And I'm thinking of myself,
what the like, what the heck? I thought she was

(42:21):
only introduced with blonde hair, like she totally nagged me
on purpose, totally played me. So I called her up,
Wait a minute, you aren't. You are into some dark
haired guys, you know. But the whole time it was
just funny seeing that. But anyway, that's how we met,

(42:42):
and a little similar story to yours in that she
was in the middle of getting a divorce and I
had just had a baby three weeks prior to meeting Teddy,
and but it was from a previous relationship and we
just we had sort of a bad breakup where we

(43:02):
just weren't going to get back together. And when I
met Teddy and she dropped me back home, were hanging
out and she's like, is that ultrasound yours? And I
remember getting so nervous because what am I What was
I supposed to say? Like, what is she going to think?

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Like?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
And I said I think and she said, well, how old?
And I told her six months because I just got
so nervous, right, and she meets her, I think a
month into our relationship, and she's like, Edwin, this isn't
a six month old baby. This is a month old baby.

(43:45):
But immediately she just I mean that's part of how
she won me over. I mean, she took care of
my daughter as if it was hers from the get go.
And and she's known my daughter, you know, from the
get go. Basically she met her a month, which she
was a month old, and so anyway, so that was

(44:06):
kind of my moment. But then another great moment with
Teddy was again, I grew up in Huntingdon Park. So
Huntington Park. Don't get it confused with hunting and beach,
polar opposites. A lot of people don't get it confused
with Hancock Park. Huntingdon Park is Southeast LA. It's the
opposite of hunting and beach, right, And I took her

(44:29):
to you know, I still hang out with some of
my old friends that I grew up with, and I
remember taking her to one of my buddies party that
he had in Huntingdon Park. And this is like an
old school kind of call it, you know, you know,
it was just the way we grew up, and I thought,
this girl's not going to last here an hour. In

(44:51):
an hour, she's going to be like, all right, we
gotta go. We gotta get out of this freaking place.
We stood there six hours. She didn't complain. She just
had a great time, and she treated everyone with so
much respect where she didn't think she was better than them.
And I was like, Okay, this is it. She is
the one, yeah, because you know, especially when you meet

(45:14):
someone in the West Side, you know, you take him
to the East Side and they're like, Oh, give me
the heck out of here, I'm too good for this place.
Right now, she was which again. And then especially with
her background, with her dad being John Mellencamp and stuff,
I mean, it was it was awesome to see her
treat everyone with so much respect, and and I knew

(45:37):
that was she was the one, you know now speaking
to nagging. So when she told me that her dad
was John Mellencamp, She's like, do you know who that is?
I actually said no, But the reality is I did
know who he was because when I lived in Huntingdon
Park in those apartments, we used to like steal cable,

(45:57):
and I forgot how I used to do that, but
I used to get all the VH one videos, and
John Mellencamp's videos were always like number one, and you
know they had the top twenty, and I would always
see the John Mellencamp video.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
So I knew exactly who he was. But did you
know he had a daughter? Oh?

Speaker 1 (46:13):
I had no clue that he had a daughter. But
when she mentioned, oh, that's my dad, I didn't want
to say yes right away because I didn't want her
to think, oh, now he just likes me because I'm
John Mellencamp's daughter. So I was like, no, But I
knew who he was, right, and I just again, I
loved how down to earth she was. And I remember

(46:36):
when I first met him. That was a nerve wrecking
be I go to Indiana and we meet at.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
A McDonald's and all of a sudden, we's wait, I'm
sorry to cut you off, but how long were you
dating before you met him? I think, if I remember correctly,
it was about five months into our relationship a ship
or four months into our relationship.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Yes, i'd be nervous too. Yeah, And we go to
Indiana and then all of a sudden, I don't know
why we met in a McDonald's, but I just saw
three subs and I'm not exaggerating, like three subs, dark subs,
tinted windows. He would have thought it was the CIA,
and like three dudes in a suit come out, and

(47:22):
then all of a sudden, it's John Mellencamp dressed in
black with his shades, and he's like, I'm John. I
was like anyway, and then he gave me some ship
that that week. He's like, when you see these guys here, man,
you mess with my daughter, come get you so you
better break my daughter's heart.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
And every man has to say that's that's like require
with a stone face.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Like he didn't say jokingly either, he was, And I
was like, don't you worry? How long did it take
you to win him over? Brought a couple of years, yeah, definitely,
a couple I mean he was never route too, but
a couple of years definitely. Yeah. Yeah. There was a
couple of times where he's like, how is this Edwin

(48:07):
guy making the kind of money he's making, Like is
he fucking drug dealer or something like?

Speaker 3 (48:13):
So there that so anyway, but he was always nice,
but yeah, I would say it took a couple of
years to kind of gain his respect and know that
I was really gonna, you know, take care of his daughter,
which I probably would have done the same.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
So after winning him over, and you know that was
five months, two years, no you met him and when
you were dating five months you won him over? In
two years, how long in your relationship was it before
you both were casted if you will, or cast for

(48:58):
the Real Housewives. So we dated for two years, got married.
Speaking of the dad, So I never thought I was
going to get married, Like I was always just so
scared of get married because everyone I met I was
getting a divorce. And I was so scared to get
married that I was just trying to push, push and
not get married. And at one point I remember just
telling today, we didn't just have my baby.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
We don't have to get married just baby, and she's like,
you're freaking nuts, are you stupid? That's literally what she
told me, And yes, I did ask. Well anyway, one
day out of nowhere, she's like, hey, what if we
just get married in Paris. My dad's going to be
touring and let's just last minute get married in Paris

(49:40):
and I remember always thinking that if I ever did
get married, it was probably going to be last minute.
It was probably going to be out of the country
where I didn't have to worry about who do I invite,
who do I not invite, And it just made total sense.
And then we got married. That was in twenty eleven.
We had our first child in twenty twelve, our second

(50:01):
child in twenty fourteen, and then twenty the end of
twenty seventeen is when she got approached to do The
Housewives show. And the first thing I thought was I
immediately got scared because I hate the freaking cameras. Like

(50:23):
I've gotten a little more used to them lately, like,
but back then, I was really fearful of cameras. How
does she present it to you? She just said she
had this opportunity, there's this show called the Housewives, and
you know they're looking you know, she they're looking an audition,
and then she nailed her audition, and then I just
told her, look, I think you're gonna probably end up

(50:44):
getting it based on who she told me that they
were also looking at, and that I remember just thinking
to myself because it scared me so much. I'm like Okay.
I always like things that challenge me, so that I
liked and then I went to go ask my you know,
my friends, you know, people in business colleagues, like, do

(51:08):
you think I should do this show? Everyone said no,
They're like, that's going to end your marriage. What the
hell are you doing? Your business is doing well, like
that's the last thing you want to do. And at
the time, Teddy and I weren't in a good place either,
Like we were a very very bad place. Wow. And

(51:31):
we were such in a bad place that at the
time I was thinking, Okay, well if she gets the
show show because at the time, you know, she she
was just staying at home and she had just started
all in so she was starting to kind of get
her life back, you know, as far as like when
she had the babies, like she stopped working, she stopped writing,

(51:53):
and she became more dependent on me all the time
to come home, and like she didn't really have a purpose.
Not that raising kids is not, because that alone is
a job's hearing shaft. I think she was so used
to being independent and working and doing her thing that
you know, we just she kind of lost herself. We

(52:16):
started to kind of separate as far as like we
weren't connecting, and again we were such in a dark place.
Then I'm like, well, maybe if she gets the show,
she gets a little purpose and then and then I
won't maybe I could just go. You know, that's how
bad it was. But you know what's interesting is that
when you don't do something for a long time, you're

(52:37):
gonna dislike it. And like, if you don't go to
the gym, if you haven't gone to the gym for
the last two years, I promise you, you probably hate
the gym. Right, you haven't gone since eighteen years ago,
you probably hate the gym. Right, So at some point,
like nothing stays the same, you're either getting better or
you're getting worse. Right, And at the time, we just

(52:59):
working on a relationship. Like it was like I was
doing my thing, she was kind of doing her thing.
And what the show did, at least for me, it
made me focus again in the relationship because I'm like, Okay,
well I cannot I can't come out here and look
divided because that's going to be a shit show. Yeah,

(53:23):
And I don't want to live that, Like, I mean,
I don't want to see my kids. I don't want
my kids to see that, and I remember, just okay,
I'm going to work on this. And funny thing, when
you start working on your relationship, you realize like, oh shit,
our relationship is actually pretty pretty damn cool, and it's

(53:44):
just getting better and better and better. So you know,
I kid with my friends. I don't think a lot
of people know that, but most people say that housewives
ruined Well, the thought is that the housewives have ruined
your marriage. For Teddy and I had actually saved our marriage.
We're actually closer than we've ever been, and uh, definitely

(54:06):
is that's commonly. Yeah, it's just crazy, but again, it
made us both work on something and again you start
to realize, wow, like this is why I fell in love.
But when you're not willing to work on the relationship,
then you just start growing apart.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Right.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
But if you just stop working on it, like you're
gonna get worse. Yeah, right, because again you're either getting
better or're getting worse. But it's not gonna stay the same.
If all of a sudden you're not trying to improve
that relationship and it's staying stagnant, I promise you, it
starts to decline, but it certainly takes a team. It
takes both of you to see the same thing.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Right. I'm sure she did her part and you did
your part to bring this relationship back together.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
That is an interesting point because from my experience watching
the show for so many years and being part of it,
I've seen more divorces on this TV show.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Then you know, then Court.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
But that's amazing that it brought you guys back together
and really solidified your relationship. Do you think it might
have been because somebody put a microscope to your relationship
that you thought, I'm not going to lose this. I'm
I'm a winner. I Am not going to lose this,
and I don't want I don't want an outside force
to you know, ruin what I have. You think that

(55:25):
had a part in it?

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Yeah, I mean I think you know what was interesting
is once the cameras are on, you like it brought
accountability to me. Yeah, you know, it was you know,
back fire to that there's nothing on Like if I
wanted to do something and I wanted to do it,

(55:49):
I could say could right, nobody knew who I was.
And uh, I think once the cameras were on, like
it's like, oh now now you're you're accountable, right, Like,
if you do something, the whole world's going to see
it and all your kids are going to see it, right,

(56:09):
And I think that's what like made me, you know,
really focus on the relationship. And when I did, I
was like, whoa, this is what the hell was I
even thinking? You know, I was just in a dark
place myself.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
So for me, I was single when I met Dema,
and I had to I had to figure it out.
Bro I you know, the first year, I'm like, what
am I getting myself into? And I went in it
like like I do with all my relationships, just open arms,
white eyed. Let's just you know, I'm up for a challenge,
and like you, when I feel fear, I go after it.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
You know.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
That's that's one one indicator that I know I have
to overcome. Anything that scares me. I have to overcome.
And if it doesn't scare me, then it's probably not
worth and it's it's been proven over and over that
if it's not scary, it's probably not worth it. Anyways,
So when I was involved in the show, the first
year was a great experience and un till it wasn't

(57:14):
you know, because they made me, they made me look
like the Knight in Shining Armor right coming in to
say that.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
The first year or half of the season, and then
they turned on you, or was it the first year?
You were just like the first The first three quarters
of the year, it was. It was the perfect couple.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
And then they turned on me at the end of
the season, and I had to make a hard decision, like, Okay,
first of all, I have no control here. They can
edit it any way I can. Unfortunately, because I had
a legal background, I read that contract. So that was,
you know, that was good experience. And then every year
after oh wait, let me go back to where they

(57:53):
they they turned on me. Yeah, and it wasn't you.
It wasn't necessarily that they turned on me. I don't
think that's what happened. What happened was I was filming
with my wife and I think it was Vicki and Brooks,
and we were going to go film at the Catalina
Island and I was working all day. It was a Friday.

(58:15):
I skipped breakfast, I skip lunch. I was just trying
to get all my work done because I couldn't work
that weekend, right, and come five o'clock, okay, I finished
my work, nothing in my stomach, jumped in the limo,
had a drink. By the time we got to Long
Beach to the ferry, I was drunk and got in
the boat. Halfway to the island, somebody said something stupid

(58:37):
or she said some stupid and it just made me
so mad. I lost my cool, I lost control, and
when we got to the island, she was kind of
elbowing me, like stop getting so angry. You know, cameras
are on you. And I was like, I don't give
a I I just want to get off this island.
I don't want to do this anymore. And I slept
on it. The next morning I was fine, of course,

(58:57):
and on the way back to the mainland, I was like,
I have to make our decision here, you know, because
I honestly do not want to do this ever again.
And if I don't do this ever again, then I
don't know what's going to be with this relationship because
this is a huge part of her life. I mean,
this is her reality. And I had to flip a switch.
It was a big mental moment for me in my life,

(59:20):
where you know what, I don't want to do this,
but I want to see what it is with her,
and I flipped a switch in my head and I said,
just do it, enjoy it, don't drink, and stay out
of the camera, right, And that formula worked for me
until today. I you know, like you, I just run
from the drama. I know, it's it's not part of me.

(59:42):
I don't want to be a sixth house wife. I
don't want to be a part of it. But I
want to support her one hundred percent any way I
can and see her shine. And she's just been amazing,
you know, all these years, just not just in her skills,
but tolerating this whole experience. You know, it's just drama.

(01:00:03):
It's completely the opposite. It's exactly what I stay away
from in my life. You know, I do everything to
stay away from drama. And then it wasn't until she
got fired. I think it was three years ago. She
got fired and it really put her world upside down.
I mean, twelve years doing this, it was her whole identity,

(01:00:25):
and she was pretty much traumatized. I mean it took
me a year to talk her off the ledge. Like
you know, there's more to life than the housewives and
the whole experience. You know, from the moment it happened
when they told her they basically kicked her to the
curb and she had to pick herself up and I
had to help her and just be there with her

(01:00:45):
and help her, you know, figure out other ways to
make money. Fortunately, influencer marketing was big at the time.
She was doing really well with that. And then a
year later, they tried to get her back on the
show as a friend and I said, no, don't do it.
You're just evaluing yourself. You're not going to be happy
if you do this. And we got into a little

(01:01:06):
fight about it because she was adamant, like, this is
what she wants to do, this is her opportunity to
go back, and I said, think about the setting, babe,
you're going back to do the dirty work or another
cast member on the show, and that's what you want
to be known as. And we didn't talk for a day.
The day came and went. The very next day, she's like,
thank you so much for not letting me do that.

(01:01:28):
Thank you so much for you know, being there for me.
And it was a tough moment, but it really helped
her grow and realize what her true worth is, what
her value is. And then I think about six months later,
she got asked to go back on the show a
full time and I'm like, well, it's your call, you know,
this is your life. I'm here to support you anyway

(01:01:51):
you want. You're a lot smarter now you've gone through
hell and back with them, And yeah, I agree, you're
really good at it. You are really good at it.
So if that's what you want to do about, let's
do it. You know, I'm here for you. But and
that's how she came back, and I regretfully came back.

(01:02:11):
But I also had to you know, change my attitude again.
You know, I said, I have to be a part
of this, and I tried to be a little bit
more engaged this this next round, primarily because the negative people.
When those people were fired, that's when I felt more comfortable,
you know, participating, you know, being you know, engaged and

(01:02:35):
asking questions about it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
So it's it's been a crazy, crazy experience.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
It's it's going to be, but for me, I mean,
we got a wedding special out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Yeah, which on the next show, we've got to talk
more about that wedding special and how that all came about.
And I mean, we got so much to talk about.
It's funny. I had the same thing Eddie where I second.
I think it was the second or third episode. Again,
I was so shy and timid. Now I don't really
have to do that anymore, but I would drink shots
before I would start filming. So one day before we

(01:03:12):
started filming, I took a bunch of shots and I
was so wasted that at the end of the night,
Teddy and I got in probably one of the biggest
fights in our entire lives. And they never showed it.
And I'm thinking it's because Teddy thinks there was cameras
in the car. I don't think there were, but she's like, yeah,

(01:03:32):
they just didn't want to show it. But I mean,
they could have made me look really, really bad, but
I think that first year they tried making me look
good or us good. But the funny part about that
is the next day we're going to film, so I
go downstairs to go get my nineteen forty two start
serving myself some shots and I'm like, this is water,

(01:03:55):
and Teddy had refilled the whole thing with water. I
don't want you drinking on this a freaking show again.
And that was pretty much the end of me drinking
before we started filming. So smart, very smart.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Anyway, I figured to show that as we end the show. Yes, yes,
good talk man, that was awesome. I think not a
bad warm up, right, not a bad warm up, not
a first time, not a bad first time. I think
we're going to have some questions for our listeners. I
think they're going to have a lot of questions for us.
So yeah, if you enjoy the show and you have

(01:04:30):
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So we're doing it to just share our experience, give
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Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
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Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
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