January 30, 2024 • 41 mins
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On this episode Tyler Jones and K.C Smith talk about what they are up to, how post season hog hunting and can be difficult, and just how to get hogs on the ground. They also talk their recent journey of canning and processing meat in a more sustainable way. Thanks for listening!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't even want to start this thing. You're tolerant
and I'm Eric and Okase and you're listening to the
Element Podcast. Eric'smighty, what's happening in all my woodspeople? This
(00:23):
is the Element Podcast formerly known as Elephant Podcast, brought
to you by First Like Year. And uh, like I said,
Eric is not here. I don't know why I said that.
I was caught way off guard. But uh, Casey and
I are here sitting around. He's sitting on the Nebraska
Furniture Mark couch and I am on a Camo chair
that I've had for a minute. This is one of
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the first chairs a piece of furniture. No when did
I I might have got this like in college. I
can't remember. I've had it a while though. It's cool.
It's a it's actually the old Advantage Wetlands camo, which
is a cool pattern. I remember when it came out.
I was like, oh, dude, that's the duck hunting battern,
you know. And it still looks cool, man. I mean
(01:06):
you could probably kill deer out on the planes with
this stuff, imagine, man. But anyway, Uh, Casey and I
got a lot to talk about today, and we don't
have a ton of time to do it, so we're
gonna We're gonna cut to the chase. The first thing
I want to do is something that I actually don't
want to do, uh, but I think it's the right
thing to do, and that's what we try to do.
So there has we kind of have a little announcement here. Uh.
(01:30):
There's been several people over the last few weeks that
have asked what happened to the Neil Guy hunt that
was on the media YouTube channel, and Uh, so I'm
gonna tell you guys what happened real quick. So Casey
and I hunted a piece of public land that had
Neil Guy on it, and we killed the Neil Guy.
(01:50):
And as you can see, uh in the video, we're
wearing blaze orange the whole time. This hunt is this
particular hunt, there's no no gun hunting going on while
we were on this place. Uh, it's only archery. But
in the rules it says that there is, uh you're
supposed to wear blaze orange and anytime you're not in movement,
(02:16):
So i'm we take it off anytime you want to
move that's right, you can. Sorry, Yeah, I'm as anytime
you're not in movement, you're supposed to wear it. So
anytime you are moving no, yeah, I'm sorry, you said
it right. If you're moving, you have to wear a blaze,
and then when you're not in movement you can take
it off. So Casey and I what we would do
(02:38):
is we truck into a place and then we would
we had found kind of a place where somewhere around
we'd seen some sign and stuff, we'd seen some Neil guy,
and so we truck in there. The mosquitoes are terrible,
even in you know, the winter, it's like still pretty
terrible mosquitoes. And so I would what I would do
is I'd take my blaze off when I sat down,
(02:58):
and I would put a hoodie on after walking in.
So after I kind of cooled down a second, put
the hoodie on. Mosquitoes are not biting me on the
arms anymore in my short sleeve, you know. And then
so and then we just sit there and kind of
see what happened, as they say, and we we end
up that morning seeing a bull coming down a trail
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and he is going to our down wind, and so
we we take off. You can see it in the video,
or you could see it in the video, we take
off around this tree, this some skee tree, so we
can get a shot to the trail that we know
he's on before he gets to our wind. I bet
we moved ten yards and the last thing I thought
was I gotta put my blaze on. I just went
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and did this because he was within one hundred yards
probably you know, like he's getting close, he's you know,
striding it out. Well, we loop around this thing and
I shoot him and he goes down, but I got
to finish him. So I finish him. Immediately go back
and think, oh man, my blaze is on it. So
I go back and I put the blaze on. Meanwhile,
(04:04):
you and I we had drawn this hunt prior and
it we had talked ourselves into the fact that once
you got to your hunt area, you could take your
blaze off. So we had kind of somehow scrambled the
message right a little bit somewhere along the way. And
I have full editing power over this thing, right, and
(04:26):
so we put this out not thinking we were doing
anything wrong. So plain and simple, that's what was in.
I could have cut it out right and nobody, you know,
I could have done something or maybe not even shown it, right,
But I just wasn't aware that we were breaking a
rule that you know, maybe slightly hard to interpret, right,
but it's still definitely seems like that you could say
(04:48):
that we broke the rule. So anyway, I put my
blaze on immediately. There was no mal in ten. I
wasn't trying to break the rules. I wasn't trying, you know,
neither one of us.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Were at the moment.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
If I get energect a little bit, I didn't feel
like we were.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
No, I didn't either, Like I didn't think that it
was like, oh, that's why I let that up, you know.
I just thought, oh, well, we you know, we I
walked ten yards and shot this thing. So anyway, and
and you know, you wouldn't think that, you know, if
you're walking towards an animal, that you'd be walking towards
a hunter probably either, you know. And in that case,
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we were long ways back then. I felt pretty confident
about it. But I didn't think about it either, because
we're bow hunting, you know. So anyway, that that was
I guess a rule that we broke. And then there's
another rule that we broke as well, another one by
uh not intentionally and I'll tell you the story on
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this one real quick as well. But this is why
this hunt. We took this hunt down. We decided to
do that. We did not have to do that, but
we took it. Hunt took it down because we thought
it may be the right thing to do at the time.
So this is something that maybe an advocacy of mine
at some point I would like for it to be. Actually,
(06:09):
I just think that it's I'm not sure how much
of a battle I really want to get into. But
there was a rule that was created, and I don't
know when this all came into effect, but.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I guess Woodrow Wilson did it because he did everything bad.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So Hollywood would go and you know, they would create
these movies and stuff on public lands. Right They're bringing
in cranes and jeeps and kind of tearing up these sites.
They've got fifty or one hundred people on the crew
on the site and kind of you know, definitely like
creating some kind of I guess destruction to these sites
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a little bit on public lands. So at some point
the Feds decide, and therefore I guess states also follow
on a lot of this stuff to enforce this thing
called commercial film and photography permitting. So this was intended,
like I said, for big Hollywood crews. We are technically
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supposed to get commercial film permits, and we do that.
As often as we are supposed to do that, we
try to attempt to do that. And in this instance,
let's see, it was this was twenty twenty two season,
during the early season, so September I had messaged somebody
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and I'm not going to give all the details here
because I don't want to give away too much, but
the essentially this type of public land, it was a
particular type. Right, there's different types of public land. There's
national forest, national parks, you know, WA State nwrs, all
these different types. Well, this particular type we were going
to film permit. I talked to the guy on the
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phone that managed this in film permitting on this particular
type of public land that we were going to go
hunt deer on white tails, and he told me that
there was litigation as to whether they were even going
to charge film permitting commercial film permitting, you know rates anymore,
and even have that be a thing. So he said
(08:15):
at the time, he said, currently we don't need this,
you don't need to have a commercial film permit for
this particular type. So I thought, okay, well every piece
of property that falls into that category will be that way,
and that was right. You know, litigation can take a
(08:35):
long time when it's in private affairs. Apparently it gets
wrapped up really quickly when the government is stands a
chance to make money off of it. So it did.
It wrapped up very quickly, right in the middle of
deer season sometime in November, and not long after was
when Case and I went and did this hunt and so,
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and we had no clue that the litigation had had
wrapped up. I thought this would be potentially a multi
year deal, but for sure multi months and it happened
like it was done. And we're hoping that that's.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
What I hoped it would.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, like they would just And that's the thing is,
you know, at the end of the day, you and
I both paid money to have hunting licenses and permits
to hunt this place, and we're carrying in a camera,
you know what I mean. So like it's not we're
not doing any any we're both hunting, We're we have
a camera in there, you know, Like there's not any
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destruction happening to this. We've paid our permit to be
on this place, right, So anyway, that's kind of aside
the point. But essentially we did not get a permit
for this because I thought, oh, NWRS are good for
this season. I mean, we should be good for this season,
and we get into the thick of it and just
we made a mistake, man, and this, you know, So
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essentially that's what That's what happened. And you know there,
you know, people want to think that we get like,
you know, because we're maybe people like what we do.
We get we catch breaks and stuff like that, and
we don't. We got tickets. So that's just plain and
simple what happened. I guess my point here before we
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move on that I want to make is guys, Casey
and I try hard to do things right and it
has been an extremely stressful process that we've gone through
in the last few weeks with this thing. I have
not wanted this to be ever the case I want like,
I've tried hard. I've worked really hard to try to
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do things the right way but do them well. And
to be able to do this for a living is
a blessing beyond what I could have really imagined. And
I know Casey would say the same. So we're apologized
for that being the case. And we did not mean
to This was not like a very intentional thing that
we tried to you know, beat the system or anything,
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you know. And we'll talk about some of this stuff
later on in more detail, as far as commercial permitting
and some of the blaze stuff as well.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
There's some conversations that I've had with a few people
in different departments around the country, and we kind of
all believe that there's some reform to be had around
some language but stuff like this that would just really help,
like if it was standardized, it would help some things
a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, and I'm not trying to make excuses for ourselves. Guys.
We messed up and did something wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
But I'm gonna tell you this, I ain't trying to
do things right because it's what the government wants of me,
It's what Jesus wants us to do.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, And that was my final point I was going
to make is like, guys, like there are people listening
right now. I don't want you to feel disappointed, and
if you do, then I'm sorry. And I didn't want
that to be the case. I don't want to disappoint people.
We both love making people happy, but you can at
the end of the day, guys, you got to put
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your faith in one thing and one person and it's
not me in Casey and me and k C are
gonna mess up and it's gonna happen. No, I'm not
saying we're gonna get tickets again or whatever. I hope
we don't. We hunt all over the country. We hunt
all kinds of places, all different designations of federal and
state lands, and we try to do everything right. We
put out you know, maybe sixty videos a year. It's
(12:19):
hard to keep up with this stuff, guys, and we
it's it's us like we we are, you know, hanging
out and doing stuff and working with meat Eater, but
it's us man like. It's just you and me and
the guys that have to manage all this stuff and
trying hard. Well.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Eric and Michael speak Yankee, but they don't interpret it
very well.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So books.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, So I just I just want to apologize for
that to anybody who might be sad about it. And
if you are and you're disappointed in me, I was
disappointed that way. We missed it too, and I did
not it wasn't a way to get a foot up, guys.
You know, it wasn't. None of this was a way
to get a foot up. It was we were trying
to do everything we could to to make you know,
and obviously you know, it's like there's there's a lot
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of these places that, like I said, you don't have
to permit for whatever reason, whether it's in litigation or
whether it's just the manager doesn't care. He just wants
you to have a good time and do your thing.
And so you know that you don't. You're not trying
to just give away money too, So like you know,
you've got to try to cross all your teas a
doot your eyes. And like I said, we weren't trying
to do it on purpose. So that and all that, guys.
(13:26):
Uh the only guy who's ever been perfect was Jesus.
And I'm just gonna go ahead and say that because
this is my opportunity to say that I fail man
and I need him and and honestly his uh me
being able to pray to him and lead and lean
on him in this moment, it has been the only
thing that's really kept my anxiety at bay in any
sort on any manner at all, you know, Matthew six
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twenty six. Man, that's that's what I've been thinking about
a lot lately. So anyway, if you're good with it,
then let's talk about pig hunting.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, it sounds good. Fuck, there's one other thing I
was gonna talk about.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Oh there was.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
So I think that this kind of points us towards
seasons to come, and I kind of want to be
honest with everyone who has been a follower they element
for a long time. Because of the stipulations surrounding public land,
you might see us on private land more than you
(14:22):
used to. Yeah, that's not the only reason. A lot
of times privately land hunting's better too, but that's a
huge part of it. So that's if you see a
shift in some of the content that we produce. That
it's a big part of it, because filming things on
public land makes it difficult.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, it's like I mean, and it hurts us to
kind of do because we love figuring deer out on
new places. That's like a that's a super fun part
of what we do. And we can do that on
private some too, you know, and we will. Yeah, it'll
just be bigger deer but you know, like I mean
all honestly, you know, some things are made hard when
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they don't have to be, and it kind of drives
people away from that.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I mean, it's on on the majority I could say majority,
that makes sense, the majority of public land in the country.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
It cost one hundred and fifty dollars a day to film. Yeah,
just just kind of as a it's expensive game number.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
We're out a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, it costs some money. So that's that's that's why
you might see that in the future. But anyways, we
get to pig hunt on private we do.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
That's real nice.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I gotta wear blaze and gotta.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Actually we do pick a hunt on public some which
we did wear blaze on. Yeah, there's a meteor video
out if you haven't seen it, Shit, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's yeah, go pick up with my dad.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
It's awesome, dude, it's awesome video. Like I enjoyed. I
didn't enjoy putting that one together because we had some
you know, here we are just giving all of our
telling everybody all our secrets, but we had some issues
with audio on this one, and audio.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Is plagued just since about twenty twenty, I think twenty
twenty for sure really started getting tough.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
The cameras that we use have a habit of going
like the the jack that the mics go in have
a habit of like breaking, and uh so we've been
trying to solve that for several years. And one way
we did that was, uh, we use these wireless mics
on this hunt, and you were just too far away
that your audio was cutting out. And there's this weird
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thing where like the three of our camera guys, Eric,
Michael and Greg, who we love dearly, they don't they
don't take to like advice like hey, you should wear
headphones and monitor the audio so that you know off
case he's cutting out, and uh, you know, it's a
it's a process.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yours also ended up in the mud.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I think, uh it's still there for sure. Yeah, for sure,
I forgot about that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I was I was chasing a pig, and I feel
like three times it's worth watching this. It's not a
fun hunt.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
It's it doesn't have the most wildlife footage, but I
think that's okay because it's a good story.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
You know, it's it's cool, uh pig hunting that way,
you've probably watched it if you're an Element listener. You've
been around for a while.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
You probably watch some of our shotgun and stuff that
we've done for pigs, and it just doesn't lend itself
to a lot of good video.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Your at least footage of wildlife of hop pigs usually running,
and they're usually.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Running and it usually gets shot before the camera comes on.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
One time, Eric's first thing he ever, best thing he
ever did. He came and filmed with us in twenty
twenty one. Yeah, he filmed with us in February and
film you shoot four hogs like it was a video game.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
It was sick.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
It's like duck Hunter.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It was man, it was awesome.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
But uh yeah, I go watch that if you haven't. Yeah,
and then we uh oh, Greg's here. I gonna stop
talking about him. We recently put out a different style
of video on the Element channel that seems to be
pretty well received. I think a lot of people this
time of year are thinking about doing something because deer
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hunting's over for a lot of the country.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Doing some of your hunting next month, if you can
imagine that.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
But I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Oh man, I went home and was telling my wife
about that.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
That's how excited. I am, I tell her about hunting
trips or whatever you go, because she didn't know. She
didn't know what's going on. But anyways, we put out
a video about how to hunt hogs in the different
ways you could do it. And I think that the
Texas Board of Tourism is going to pay us for
this video because we told people how to come to
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Texas and shoe pigs.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It's like the problem is like you think, oh, man,
I don't need to know how to hunts. I know hogs,
but it's like about near a highlight reel, it's got
like just shots of pigs all over it.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Did y'all know let me tell y'all something.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Did you know that the Element for the first three
and a half years of its existence thought that people
didn't care to watch hog hunts.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, so we didn't.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
We would shoot hogs but not show the footage, so
we don't have a lot of stuff from the twenty teens.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Instead, we went postseason scouting when we should have been
pig hunts. You've been pick There's way funner to do
than scouting. But we learn a lot.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
In the last three years. We've got a lot of
hog footage. Yeah, we've shot a lot of pigs.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I didn't realize how many. Yeah, I mean, so Michael
put this video together, did a really good job, and
he like he somehow found pig after pig. I mean,
it's like there's hardly any footage of you and me
talking about I mean, there's audio of us talking about it,
but there's not footage of us sitting there talking. It's
mostly just pigs the whole time. The whole time. So,
you know, want to watch some cool hogshots and listen
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to some stuff. It's like a podcast on video almost.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
So footage that we take is stored on something called
a hard drive. You may or may not know what
that is. There's external and an internal. Your every computer
has a hard drive on the inside of it, but
we use these things called external hard drives. They look
like a big deck of cards. It's about the size
that they are, and there's probably thirty five of them
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sitting on that.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I think there's more. There's five, so five, ten, fifteen, twenty,
twenty five, twenty eight, thirty thirty three.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
It's closer to fifty.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, it's gonna be closer to fifty.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Each one of those costs one hundred dollars or more.
Plus the working drives we have, it costs more than that.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I think there's over fifty there.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
But each one of those holds four terabytes of data and.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
They bout neer all are full.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yeah, And we went through all of them looking for
hog footage.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
And I don't know if you understand how much tarbody is,
but it's a lot.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
It's hard to tell me how like a billion it's.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
A million this time it's been saying lately it's a
million's worth of footage.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I mean, it's hard to say, but each one of
those probably has like one hundred hours of footage on it.
Who knows, right, But it's a lot. It's more than
you can imagine. And we went through all of it
and found I think almost every shot at a hog
that is.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
On film from the element is on those hard drives
at the moment. Even shots are there shots shut qualify
for all that. So that's all within that video.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
And we actually give you some of our like we
go through four ways of doing the thing, and there's
we didn't include helicopter hog hunting because I mean, somebody
else is gonna tell you to do that, not me.
I've done it, but uh, that's not I don't offer
those services.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
We actually went hog hunting recently and almost killed some pig. Gosh,
it was both of us in the same evening.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Sure enough, I forgot about that.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
We go kill pigs right now if we wanted to know,
we're gonna want to you on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Ya, don't run it. They've been there all day, all
day long.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
They're not there right now.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
The hard so the hard thing, the hard thing about
this property. It'd be cool if I mean, you know,
some people don't like this, but it'd be cool if
I could just see some hogs and go kill them.
But uh, like, once we leave here, we got it.
It's like forty minutes to get down in there, probably,
And once you get down in there, there's no service,
no phone service. The multimobile cameras work. They send pictures out,
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but our phones can't get them picture on the phones
once we get down in there, so we don't know
if we're there anymore. So it makes it It makes
it actually a lot like hunting. You know, it's pretty tough.
But we went in there and we were gonna we
had been seeing these pigs. It's about near every evening
on camera. So we went in there one evening and
as we're kind of walking in, don't really have the
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wind great, but we think we can make it work. Well,
all of a sudden there's just this lone board just
cruising man just looking for them Harems and he Casey.
It's like, hey, go shoot that thing or whatever. So
Casey runs up there with Eric and he the pig
kind of comes into the gap at like probably what
(23:22):
fifty forty forty five, something like that forty seven. Eric
made sure to ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
At the time I could should be concentrated when.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You should have been shooting, was actually, did you do
you see him or something? Wasn't it?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, if you know me and you know Eric, you
know one of us has seen the dog for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
But what was going on is that back we're fixing.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I actually show the video from this this past year
hunted Oklahoma in my bowfell out of the tree and
didn't mess up the bow as far as accuracy or
tuning or anything, but it stripped out. It hit right
on my side, so it stripped out the gearing on
my sight, so I don't have it. My sight will
still adjust and do it accurately, but it doesn't want
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to do it without you working on it. So I
was trying to make because I have a twenty and
a thirty five, and I was like, I don't want
a pin gap from thirty five to forty seven. That's
a good way to miss a pig or wound one.
Or trying to smoke things. Oh yeah, because smoking stuff
is cool.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Well, smoking pigs is what you have to do or
you won't find.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
You won't find, those won't be gone.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
So I was trying to mess with my sight and
the pig got away. But it's you know, I kind
of liked that that happened the way it did. He
didn't spook bad, and I didn't put an air anymoanting
and die like the next day, and you know, so like.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
We didn't have to go just all looking for him.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
For didn't have to go just stomp rething.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
So now that same area is where we're seeing pigs
on camera like crazy all day long.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
They're fixed to me back. The corn just went off.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Right right now. And right after that happened, I was like, Okay,
why don't you wait and see if the sounder shows up.
I'm gonna go back over to this other feeder as
a few hundred yards away. Uh, well, me and Michael
take off over there. And as soon as we like
coming over, we crossed this creek and we're coming up
and like as we're crossing it, I can see them
just backs at the feeder, and I'm just like, oh
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my gosh, dude, there was a million of them.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It was like ridiculous in daylight.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Since I know what in the world, dude. So anyways,
Michael with you, Yeah, smelt you all for sure. Well,
we were heading we were actually supposed to have like
a an opposite wind. Michael's here by the way, and
we we ended up having like an opposite wind of
what we were actually called for, which is one thing
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that happens to just a little lot down in this bottom.
It's i mean, it's just nasty floodplain stuff and it's
just bad. I mean, we've had a good wind up top,
like solid strong wind, and it just like as it
got evening it kind of died a little bit and
just working bad. And Uh, anyway, Michael and I come
up and these pigs are at the feeder, so I'm
just gonna go right at them. There's some big ones
there right. I start to see them kind of leak
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off to the right a little bit, like one or
two of them, and then I look over and there's
like the other half of the million that are over
there to the right a little bit. Well, our wind
is kind of blowing towards that direction a little bit,
and I'm like, dude, we got to get to the
right so that our wind doesn't blow all these pigs out.
They're fixing it. They've already because there's a million of them.
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They've already eaten like one kernel each and they're done,
like there ain't anymore corn left. So I take off
to the right and we're just flying and Michael's, you know,
keeping up pretty good. And anyway, these pigs they're getting
with it. And we probably walked one hundred yards maybe
or whatever, and then I just couldn't get any further
around them, and they they smelled us, and it was
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weird because only like one or two smelled us, and
they started wigging out, but the other one's kind of
wigged out, and then they did this loop, and I
thought this one pig was gonna come right at us.
I actually had like a forty five yard shot as
well at one of the pigs. Uh, but it just
wasn't It wasn't great. Michael wasn't really on him, and
I asked it wasn't his fault. This was a quick deal,
and I was like, you got you on him? And
(27:24):
usually if the cameraman's quiet, it means he's not on him, so.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
They never say no, no, it's just like, uh, do
you want to hit set?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
And uh? And so I just I know I've learned that,
you know, silence means don't shoot. And because actually Greg
and I when we hunted, I hunted that rifle Texas.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Lit and Greg was like, if you went silence, don't shoot,
you'd never get to shoot with Greg.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Well, Greg, see, but no, that's what I'm saying is Greg.
Greg taught me. He was like when I was like
you on him, Greg, he goes yeah, And I was
like are you sure and he goes yes, And so
I shot. Well. I went back and watched the footage
and he was on him both times. He said yes,
So now I trust him.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
You know, Michael's good at getting on stuff fast.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, you know, yeah, it probably get is too. Actually
Greg sees both these guys see the deer really well
and get on them. They're just they're just gamers, dude.
They know how it is to hunt man, so they
do a really good job of that. It's just but
you mean, still, it's camera. It's camera stuff, you know,
so you gotta you don't know for sure, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Uh. The good thing about all that is that we
now are gonna have a really good hog video because yeah,
we had some clothes encounters.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We did, but we still have to kill one.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
We're going to and here's the thing that we're The
video is gonna tell you some stuff about this kind
of deal. But uh, I use the Weather Channel app.
This is not an endorsement for the Weather Channel app. Okay, No,
they mess things up a lot. You might could check
on X and see.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
If they have this data. They probably do.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
So according to the Weather Channel AP, on Thursday, we
have a south at thirteen.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
That's going to go well for us.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Oh yeah, for sure, that's what we need.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, we're gonna go do some pig killing on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
They're dropping bombs on them, bomb dead least. Hey, I'm
shooting one on the run.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I'm gonna take my alleladdle.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I want to shoot one on the run. So bad
and hit it right in the right behind the ear
and just drop it, dude.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
So a long while back, me and are good buddy
Dan went and did a little walk about one time
where their bows, trying to shoot some pigs, and somehow,
some way a board started running at us, as opposed
to away from us. I don't think he knew we
were there. It's like he got spooked by something else.
We could see him coming for long ways, but he's
running about in here full speed. So I tried to
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give him the old lead, you know. I put it
like a foot in front of his nose and released,
and I think I hit three foot behind him. So
if you have one at like thirty yards out there,
it's way in front.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah it is. Listen. I'm actually not endorsing the running shot, Okay, y'all,
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I think if it's a if it's a close deal,
then it's a lot different. Yeah, thirty yards is pretty far.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
There's plenty of rednecks listen to this podcast that understand
that temptation to shoot one on the run. Yeah, And
I mean, at some point in my life I might
have done that. It's hard to hold off sometimes and
again we're going back to we make mistakes, you know what, So.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I do it again.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I'm the same for me.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, pigs, y'all know, if you know anything about us,
I shoot and very few times does the arrow not
get flung and uh especial man. I shot a white
tailed buck on the run at like two hundred and
sixty yards one time, which I wouldn't advise doing to anyone,
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is that it was on my fifth shot with my
seven mag was eleven. Okay, So yeah, you try stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
When you were eleven, Oh guarantee.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
If you don't, then you try stuff when you're in
your thirties and you look way dumber.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah so, and I mean I still look dumb.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, So you think about it's the same white till
buck five shots. I'm on the edge of a rim
rock and uh, he's just running through the bottom getting
lead flung at him. Well, I hit him in the
antler at some point in time, because it knocked off
half his rack.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Dang, I thought that Illinois was the first time you
ever shot it here in the antler.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
No, that wasn't the first first time with the bow,
I think. And then.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I shot him on fish shot. Well, if you know
anything about a room into mydel seven hundred. They only
hold three plus one, so I had I'd emptied the
clip and had to put another one in.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
There and dropped him.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Dude, Yeah, but it ain't.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You don't talk about how many shots that were you dropped?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
You like Jeremy or Jerry mickeylec whatever his name is.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Miss I don't know which one of you.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I'll send me a message. Uh that dude, that dude
is bad to the bone. Dude, he is bad.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I like the guy shoot the bow shooting him, ask Prins,
Tyron Byron, Yeah, Byron Nelson.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I think right.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
He's good. Old guy Niche jokes. We tell, but nobody knows.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
The couple people in Texas.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
A hunting been going on. Also, I've got three freezers
at my house. I killed four bucks this year and
I am out of room.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
We have these community freezers we do. I've got I
had to buy a new stand up. I've got a
I've got two fridges. I got a stand up freezer.
I got two fridges that both have freezers in them.
And I got a uh whatever they call them whatever,
chest free chest freezer. And that was not super big,
but it's decent and I'm full up to my walk.
(33:03):
I bought my stand up like not long ago.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
I'm glad you got it.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
We put two whole hogs in that thing, and so
that was some deer meat. Yeah, and like got Monil
guy than I do. And so I mean, like weird
community live.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I hope there's still down there. I haven't seen NOI
down a long time, but it's at the bottom somewhere,
I'm sure. I mean, I found an elk backstrap the
other day. Oh my God killed the Elksin's twenty two.
So uh, he's sad, right.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
So that video got a lot of use, lack of focus.
You know, it's a lie of the problems back then.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
So yeah, that was that was the That was for
sure the issue. It wasn't the fact that your first
choice was a cal.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
The species identification is also a struggle for some members
of the team.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
You gotta elaborate, though, you gotta tell tell what that
what you bean there.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Well, the first mistake was me because I applied for
a calok tag as my first choice while being a
point holder.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Okay, my first time you were guaranteed times two.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
That's right. Actually, I don't think I was. I think
I had a sixty percent chance of drawing it. Yeah, that's
the state status of l.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Hunting in this world.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
You better off.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Spending money just deer hunting. So mistake number one was
made purchase the tag anyways, we're going on a calail
count or going on an adventure defensive tag team. Mistake
number two was Michael didn't wear any mosquito repellent yep.
And then mistake number three Michael and Eric didn't know
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the difference in muldier fawns in cow Elk.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
And I'm telling the truth. We are chasing so it was.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
It is, And these Yankees ain't ever seen mountains, much
less melia fawns.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
You know, airs from the Prairie state.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I guarantee you, dude, I guarantee.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
You is flat to flat flat.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
It's it is like glacial plane, you know, Uh.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
I sage man, yeah, man, all that good stuff. But
we were on Elk that morning. We'd seen Kayak. We
know what they look like.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Everyone in the party had seen Kayok as of that morning.
So we hear the bull.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
They're real gray right.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah, small, uh, real dumb too. Just look at you,
all right, by forty yards. So anyways, we hear the
herd bull with his cows, which would be cool to shoot,
but I can't shoot him, so I'm gonna go shoot
one of his cows.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
And we're calling back and forth to him trying to
locate him. We know where he's at and make a
big scramble. It's actually really cool hunt. And so we
push up the mountain through like this kind of ponderosa
looking area, but it's kind of thick, and Greg and
I are up in front because he's my primary camera guy.
Michael and Eric are playing auxiliary back there, and.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
We move up. I do a couple like calf lost
calf mewse.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
And sure enough, here comes ten or twelve cows down
the hill, and the first one kind of sees us
and locks up, but then the other ones are just
pushing her down, so she has to come out.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I draw my bow.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
She catches me drawing, makes a little loop and ends
up like ten yards further out. Well with an elk,
I know for sure you know where to hold for
an extra ten yards on them.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
That's right, they're big and uh.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Greg was very fresh when it comes to filming. That
was this first hunt to film. I think he filmed
some go.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Car action off car Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Oh that's right, see, which also may have been may
have been fuzzy. But there's this thing on a cameras
that's called an autofocused button, and it's a thing we
use a lot. You can probably watch in our footage
where like instead of using like a ring on the lens,
you hit this button and it just grabs focus on
(37:26):
whatever you're pointing at. Well, that goes to not working
as good once it starts getting later, like a lower light,
we're a pretty low light condition and Greg hits the
autofocus button and it's like your camera goes into spasmode
if it doesn't it work, and not only is it
out of focus, it's like censored.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
It's a sensor. It's a giant sensor. That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
You look back and laugh at it now, you know,
because it was like year and a half ago, right,
and now Greg is just nailing it. I mean that
hunt you were just talking about, well ago where he
filmed did you shoot that deer with a rifle?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
That hunt? Is like awesome?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, well yeah that is. And I was thinking about
that hunt earlier. I actually got to shoot that deer
on the run too, because I shot him once and
then he ran and I was like, I couldn't believe
that he's running.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
It must have been because you were six point five
creed More.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
I don't know why else it would be man that
hate Listen. We've gotten a few messages about this, but
like there's a lot of mixed reviews on what the
six five will do. It does seem like a lot
of people think that it does kill deer pretty effectively.
Now as far as blood trails and stuff like that,
you know, or what bullet type those are different.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
That's the thing. Everybody messes up his bullet type. I think.
I don't want to go off into that whole spill.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I kind of yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I like to kind of say polarizing things that actually
not have you see me do this like in Ohio
one time. You know, like sometimes you just say something
to continue the conversation, not that you actually.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Believe, you know, it's just like, hey, well what points
are you going to make?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Fundies?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
You know, you know, and I mean sometimes you want
people to make points so that you can learn what
points you want to make because you have the same
you know, I want.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
To see what the other guy would have to say about.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Yeah, so but all that freezer talk to say, we
got to figure out a way to not have so
much stuff in the freezer.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
So you've all been waiting for it. The element culinary
videos are on the way.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
But no, seriously, we actually are gonna do a little
bit of stuff because I think a lot of us
are in this situation where the world's a little weird.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
So there's this whole you know, prepper.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Aspect to things or homesteading where we're trying to become
less dependent on, you know, the the big grocery stores,
or maybe you're just looking at a new way to
cook meat, whatever it might be, or you know, our
maiden function is to find more freezer space. And for me,
I'm kind of like I'd like to rely less on
(39:53):
electricity and not have to have three freezers. So recently
we did a the deer meat Cannon video, which I've
never done any deer meat cannon. But a whole year
ago I got a pressure cooker for Christmas, and I
have not used it for one whole year because I
haven't had time. But now we were like, you know what,
(40:14):
let's make a video about this and try this. So
it forced me to kind of take.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
The plunge, and.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
I think the results were better than expected for.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Me for sure, Like there was a I won't give
away too much about what happened in the video, but
we didn't mess up something what we decided we could
do better, and it caused me to believe that this
wasn't going to be nearly as tasty as it was,
and it was fantastic. I love it.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Let's go yeah, yeah, So we now are gonna.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Be Michael's working on that video thing?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Is he right now? Okay?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Okay, who's doing that video? Okay, okay, that's kind of
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Michael's doing that video. It should be probably probably borrow
or something. Deadlines are people that one hanging around here.
We'll have another video, you know, I told you about
that Oklahoma hunt. We'll have that video out soon and.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Then the next video would be the deer Can video.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
But if you haven't, go subscribe to the Element YouTube
channel because that Oklahoma video very well might be out
by the.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Time this podcast is out. I don't know. We're about
to look at it right after this. Remember to do that,
and remember this is your element, live in it,
I don't even want to start this thing. You're tolerant
and I'm Eric and Okase and you're listening to the
Element Podcast. Eric'smighty, what's happening in all my woodspeople? This
(00:23):
is the Element Podcast formerly known as Elephant Podcast, brought
to you by First Like Year. And uh, like I said,
Eric is not here. I don't know why I said that.
I was caught way off guard. But uh, Casey and
I are here sitting around. He's sitting on the Nebraska
Furniture Mark couch and I am on a Camo chair
that I've had for a minute. This is one of
(00:44):
the first chairs a piece of furniture. No when did
I I might have got this like in college. I
can't remember. I've had it a while though. It's cool.
It's a it's actually the old Advantage Wetlands camo, which
is a cool pattern. I remember when it came out.
I was like, oh, dude, that's the duck hunting battern,
you know. And it still looks cool, man. I mean
(01:06):
you could probably kill deer out on the planes with
this stuff, imagine, man. But anyway, Uh, Casey and I
got a lot to talk about today, and we don't
have a ton of time to do it, so we're
gonna We're gonna cut to the chase. The first thing
I want to do is something that I actually don't
want to do, uh, but I think it's the right
thing to do, and that's what we try to do.
So there has we kind of have a little announcement here. Uh.
(01:30):
There's been several people over the last few weeks that
have asked what happened to the Neil Guy hunt that
was on the media YouTube channel, and Uh, so I'm
gonna tell you guys what happened real quick. So Casey
and I hunted a piece of public land that had
Neil Guy on it, and we killed the Neil Guy.
(01:50):
And as you can see, uh in the video, we're
wearing blaze orange the whole time. This hunt is this
particular hunt, there's no no gun hunting going on while
we were on this place. Uh, it's only archery. But
in the rules it says that there is, uh you're
supposed to wear blaze orange and anytime you're not in movement,
(02:16):
So i'm we take it off anytime you want to
move that's right, you can. Sorry, Yeah, I'm as anytime
you're not in movement, you're supposed to wear it. So
anytime you are moving no, yeah, I'm sorry, you said
it right. If you're moving, you have to wear a blaze,
and then when you're not in movement you can take
it off. So Casey and I what we would do
(02:38):
is we truck into a place and then we would
we had found kind of a place where somewhere around
we'd seen some sign and stuff, we'd seen some Neil guy,
and so we truck in there. The mosquitoes are terrible,
even in you know, the winter, it's like still pretty
terrible mosquitoes. And so I would what I would do
is I'd take my blaze off when I sat down,
(02:58):
and I would put a hoodie on after walking in.
So after I kind of cooled down a second, put
the hoodie on. Mosquitoes are not biting me on the
arms anymore in my short sleeve, you know. And then
so and then we just sit there and kind of
see what happened, as they say, and we we end
up that morning seeing a bull coming down a trail
(03:22):
and he is going to our down wind, and so
we we take off. You can see it in the video,
or you could see it in the video, we take
off around this tree, this some skee tree, so we
can get a shot to the trail that we know
he's on before he gets to our wind. I bet
we moved ten yards and the last thing I thought
was I gotta put my blaze on. I just went
(03:43):
and did this because he was within one hundred yards
probably you know, like he's getting close, he's you know,
striding it out. Well, we loop around this thing and
I shoot him and he goes down, but I got
to finish him. So I finish him. Immediately go back
and think, oh man, my blaze is on it. So
I go back and I put the blaze on. Meanwhile,
(04:04):
you and I we had drawn this hunt prior and
it we had talked ourselves into the fact that once
you got to your hunt area, you could take your
blaze off. So we had kind of somehow scrambled the
message right a little bit somewhere along the way. And
I have full editing power over this thing, right, and
(04:26):
so we put this out not thinking we were doing
anything wrong. So plain and simple, that's what was in.
I could have cut it out right and nobody, you know,
I could have done something or maybe not even shown it, right,
But I just wasn't aware that we were breaking a
rule that you know, maybe slightly hard to interpret, right,
but it's still definitely seems like that you could say
(04:48):
that we broke the rule. So anyway, I put my
blaze on immediately. There was no mal in ten. I
wasn't trying to break the rules. I wasn't trying, you know,
neither one of us.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Were at the moment.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
If I get energect a little bit, I didn't feel
like we were.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
No, I didn't either, Like I didn't think that it
was like, oh, that's why I let that up, you know.
I just thought, oh, well, we you know, we I
walked ten yards and shot this thing. So anyway, and
and you know, you wouldn't think that, you know, if
you're walking towards an animal, that you'd be walking towards
a hunter probably either, you know. And in that case,
(05:24):
we were long ways back then. I felt pretty confident
about it. But I didn't think about it either, because
we're bow hunting, you know. So anyway, that that was
I guess a rule that we broke. And then there's
another rule that we broke as well, another one by
uh not intentionally and I'll tell you the story on
(05:47):
this one real quick as well. But this is why
this hunt. We took this hunt down. We decided to
do that. We did not have to do that, but
we took it. Hunt took it down because we thought
it may be the right thing to do at the time.
So this is something that maybe an advocacy of mine
at some point I would like for it to be. Actually,
(06:09):
I just think that it's I'm not sure how much
of a battle I really want to get into. But
there was a rule that was created, and I don't
know when this all came into effect, but.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I guess Woodrow Wilson did it because he did everything bad.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So Hollywood would go and you know, they would create
these movies and stuff on public lands. Right They're bringing
in cranes and jeeps and kind of tearing up these sites.
They've got fifty or one hundred people on the crew
on the site and kind of you know, definitely like
creating some kind of I guess destruction to these sites
(06:47):
a little bit on public lands. So at some point
the Feds decide, and therefore I guess states also follow
on a lot of this stuff to enforce this thing
called commercial film and photography permitting. So this was intended,
like I said, for big Hollywood crews. We are technically
(07:09):
supposed to get commercial film permits, and we do that.
As often as we are supposed to do that, we
try to attempt to do that. And in this instance,
let's see, it was this was twenty twenty two season,
during the early season, so September I had messaged somebody
(07:30):
and I'm not going to give all the details here
because I don't want to give away too much, but
the essentially this type of public land, it was a
particular type. Right, there's different types of public land. There's
national forest, national parks, you know, WA State nwrs, all
these different types. Well, this particular type we were going
to film permit. I talked to the guy on the
(07:53):
phone that managed this in film permitting on this particular
type of public land that we were going to go
hunt deer on white tails, and he told me that
there was litigation as to whether they were even going
to charge film permitting commercial film permitting, you know rates anymore,
and even have that be a thing. So he said
(08:15):
at the time, he said, currently we don't need this,
you don't need to have a commercial film permit for
this particular type. So I thought, okay, well every piece
of property that falls into that category will be that way,
and that was right. You know, litigation can take a
(08:35):
long time when it's in private affairs. Apparently it gets
wrapped up really quickly when the government is stands a
chance to make money off of it. So it did.
It wrapped up very quickly, right in the middle of
deer season sometime in November, and not long after was
when Case and I went and did this hunt and so,
(08:56):
and we had no clue that the litigation had had
wrapped up. I thought this would be potentially a multi
year deal, but for sure multi months and it happened
like it was done. And we're hoping that that's.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
What I hoped it would.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, like they would just And that's the thing is,
you know, at the end of the day, you and
I both paid money to have hunting licenses and permits
to hunt this place, and we're carrying in a camera,
you know what I mean. So like it's not we're
not doing any any we're both hunting, We're we have
a camera in there, you know, Like there's not any
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destruction happening to this. We've paid our permit to be
on this place, right, So anyway, that's kind of aside
the point. But essentially we did not get a permit
for this because I thought, oh, NWRS are good for
this season. I mean, we should be good for this season,
and we get into the thick of it and just
we made a mistake, man, and this, you know, So
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essentially that's what That's what happened. And you know there,
you know, people want to think that we get like,
you know, because we're maybe people like what we do.
We get we catch breaks and stuff like that, and
we don't. We got tickets. So that's just plain and
simple what happened. I guess my point here before we
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move on that I want to make is guys, Casey
and I try hard to do things right and it
has been an extremely stressful process that we've gone through
in the last few weeks with this thing. I have
not wanted this to be ever the case I want like,
I've tried hard. I've worked really hard to try to
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do things the right way but do them well. And
to be able to do this for a living is
a blessing beyond what I could have really imagined. And
I know Casey would say the same. So we're apologized
for that being the case. And we did not mean
to This was not like a very intentional thing that
we tried to you know, beat the system or anything,
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you know. And we'll talk about some of this stuff
later on in more detail, as far as commercial permitting
and some of the blaze stuff as well.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
There's some conversations that I've had with a few people
in different departments around the country, and we kind of
all believe that there's some reform to be had around
some language but stuff like this that would just really help,
like if it was standardized, it would help some things
a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, and I'm not trying to make excuses for ourselves. Guys.
We messed up and did something wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
But I'm gonna tell you this, I ain't trying to
do things right because it's what the government wants of me,
It's what Jesus wants us to do.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, And that was my final point I was going
to make is like, guys, like there are people listening
right now. I don't want you to feel disappointed, and
if you do, then I'm sorry. And I didn't want
that to be the case. I don't want to disappoint people.
We both love making people happy, but you can at
the end of the day, guys, you got to put
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your faith in one thing and one person and it's
not me in Casey and me and k C are
gonna mess up and it's gonna happen. No, I'm not
saying we're gonna get tickets again or whatever. I hope
we don't. We hunt all over the country. We hunt
all kinds of places, all different designations of federal and
state lands, and we try to do everything right. We
put out you know, maybe sixty videos a year. It's
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hard to keep up with this stuff, guys, and we
it's it's us like we we are, you know, hanging
out and doing stuff and working with meat Eater, but
it's us man like. It's just you and me and
the guys that have to manage all this stuff and
trying hard. Well.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Eric and Michael speak Yankee, but they don't interpret it
very well.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So books.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, So I just I just want to apologize for
that to anybody who might be sad about it. And
if you are and you're disappointed in me, I was
disappointed that way. We missed it too, and I did
not it wasn't a way to get a foot up, guys.
You know, it wasn't. None of this was a way
to get a foot up. It was we were trying
to do everything we could to to make you know,
and obviously you know, it's like there's there's a lot
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of these places that, like I said, you don't have
to permit for whatever reason, whether it's in litigation or
whether it's just the manager doesn't care. He just wants
you to have a good time and do your thing.
And so you know that you don't. You're not trying
to just give away money too, So like you know,
you've got to try to cross all your teas a
doot your eyes. And like I said, we weren't trying
to do it on purpose. So that and all that, guys.
(13:26):
Uh the only guy who's ever been perfect was Jesus.
And I'm just gonna go ahead and say that because
this is my opportunity to say that I fail man
and I need him and and honestly his uh me
being able to pray to him and lead and lean
on him in this moment, it has been the only
thing that's really kept my anxiety at bay in any
sort on any manner at all, you know, Matthew six
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twenty six. Man, that's that's what I've been thinking about
a lot lately. So anyway, if you're good with it,
then let's talk about pig hunting.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, it sounds good. Fuck, there's one other thing I
was gonna talk about.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Oh there was.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
So I think that this kind of points us towards
seasons to come, and I kind of want to be
honest with everyone who has been a follower they element
for a long time. Because of the stipulations surrounding public land,
you might see us on private land more than you
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used to. Yeah, that's not the only reason. A lot
of times privately land hunting's better too, but that's a
huge part of it. So that's if you see a
shift in some of the content that we produce. That
it's a big part of it, because filming things on
public land makes it difficult.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, it's like I mean, and it hurts us to
kind of do because we love figuring deer out on
new places. That's like a that's a super fun part
of what we do. And we can do that on
private some too, you know, and we will. Yeah, it'll
just be bigger deer but you know, like I mean
all honestly, you know, some things are made hard when
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they don't have to be, and it kind of drives
people away from that.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I mean, it's on on the majority I could say majority,
that makes sense, the majority of public land in the country.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
It cost one hundred and fifty dollars a day to film. Yeah,
just just kind of as a it's expensive game number.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
We're out a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, it costs some money. So that's that's that's why
you might see that in the future. But anyways, we
get to pig hunt on private we do.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
That's real nice.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I gotta wear blaze and gotta.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Actually we do pick a hunt on public some which
we did wear blaze on. Yeah, there's a meteor video
out if you haven't seen it, Shit, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's yeah, go pick up with my dad.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
It's awesome, dude, it's awesome video. Like I enjoyed. I
didn't enjoy putting that one together because we had some
you know, here we are just giving all of our
telling everybody all our secrets, but we had some issues
with audio on this one, and audio.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Is plagued just since about twenty twenty, I think twenty
twenty for sure really started getting tough.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
The cameras that we use have a habit of going
like the the jack that the mics go in have
a habit of like breaking, and uh so we've been
trying to solve that for several years. And one way
we did that was, uh, we use these wireless mics
on this hunt, and you were just too far away
that your audio was cutting out. And there's this weird
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thing where like the three of our camera guys, Eric,
Michael and Greg, who we love dearly, they don't they
don't take to like advice like hey, you should wear
headphones and monitor the audio so that you know off
case he's cutting out, and uh, you know, it's a
it's a process.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yours also ended up in the mud.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I think, uh it's still there for sure. Yeah, for sure,
I forgot about that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I was I was chasing a pig, and I feel
like three times it's worth watching this. It's not a
fun hunt.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
It's it doesn't have the most wildlife footage, but I
think that's okay because it's a good story.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
You know, it's it's cool, uh pig hunting that way,
you've probably watched it if you're an Element listener. You've
been around for a while.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
You probably watch some of our shotgun and stuff that
we've done for pigs, and it just doesn't lend itself
to a lot of good video.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Your at least footage of wildlife of hop pigs usually running,
and they're usually.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Running and it usually gets shot before the camera comes on.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
One time, Eric's first thing he ever, best thing he
ever did. He came and filmed with us in twenty
twenty one. Yeah, he filmed with us in February and
film you shoot four hogs like it was a video game.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
It was sick.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
It's like duck Hunter.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It was man, it was awesome.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
But uh yeah, I go watch that if you haven't. Yeah,
and then we uh oh, Greg's here. I gonna stop
talking about him. We recently put out a different style
of video on the Element channel that seems to be
pretty well received. I think a lot of people this
time of year are thinking about doing something because deer
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hunting's over for a lot of the country.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Doing some of your hunting next month, if you can
imagine that.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
But I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Oh man, I went home and was telling my wife
about that.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
That's how excited. I am, I tell her about hunting
trips or whatever you go, because she didn't know. She
didn't know what's going on. But anyways, we put out
a video about how to hunt hogs in the different
ways you could do it. And I think that the
Texas Board of Tourism is going to pay us for
this video because we told people how to come to
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Texas and shoe pigs.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It's like the problem is like you think, oh, man,
I don't need to know how to hunts. I know hogs,
but it's like about near a highlight reel, it's got
like just shots of pigs all over it.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Did y'all know let me tell y'all something.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Did you know that the Element for the first three
and a half years of its existence thought that people
didn't care to watch hog hunts.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, so we didn't.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
We would shoot hogs but not show the footage, so
we don't have a lot of stuff from the twenty teens.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Instead, we went postseason scouting when we should have been
pig hunts. You've been pick There's way funner to do
than scouting. But we learn a lot.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
In the last three years. We've got a lot of
hog footage. Yeah, we've shot a lot of pigs.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I didn't realize how many. Yeah, I mean, so Michael
put this video together, did a really good job, and
he like he somehow found pig after pig. I mean,
it's like there's hardly any footage of you and me
talking about I mean, there's audio of us talking about it,
but there's not footage of us sitting there talking. It's
mostly just pigs the whole time. The whole time. So,
you know, want to watch some cool hogshots and listen
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to some stuff. It's like a podcast on video almost.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
So footage that we take is stored on something called
a hard drive. You may or may not know what
that is. There's external and an internal. Your every computer
has a hard drive on the inside of it, but
we use these things called external hard drives. They look
like a big deck of cards. It's about the size
that they are, and there's probably thirty five of them
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sitting on that.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I think there's more. There's five, so five, ten, fifteen, twenty,
twenty five, twenty eight, thirty thirty three.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
It's closer to fifty.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, it's gonna be closer to fifty.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Each one of those costs one hundred dollars or more.
Plus the working drives we have, it costs more than that.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I think there's over fifty there.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
But each one of those holds four terabytes of data and.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
They bout neer all are full.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yeah, And we went through all of them looking for
hog footage.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
And I don't know if you understand how much tarbody is,
but it's a lot.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
It's hard to tell me how like a billion it's.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
A million this time it's been saying lately it's a
million's worth of footage.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I mean, it's hard to say, but each one of
those probably has like one hundred hours of footage on it.
Who knows, right, But it's a lot. It's more than
you can imagine. And we went through all of it
and found I think almost every shot at a hog
that is.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
On film from the element is on those hard drives
at the moment. Even shots are there shots shut qualify
for all that. So that's all within that video.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
And we actually give you some of our like we
go through four ways of doing the thing, and there's
we didn't include helicopter hog hunting because I mean, somebody
else is gonna tell you to do that, not me.
I've done it, but uh, that's not I don't offer
those services.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
We actually went hog hunting recently and almost killed some pig. Gosh,
it was both of us in the same evening.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Sure enough, I forgot about that.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
We go kill pigs right now if we wanted to know,
we're gonna want to you on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Ya, don't run it. They've been there all day, all
day long.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
They're not there right now.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
The hard so the hard thing, the hard thing about
this property. It'd be cool if I mean, you know,
some people don't like this, but it'd be cool if
I could just see some hogs and go kill them.
But uh, like, once we leave here, we got it.
It's like forty minutes to get down in there, probably,
And once you get down in there, there's no service,
no phone service. The multimobile cameras work. They send pictures out,
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but our phones can't get them picture on the phones
once we get down in there, so we don't know
if we're there anymore. So it makes it It makes
it actually a lot like hunting. You know, it's pretty tough.
But we went in there and we were gonna we
had been seeing these pigs. It's about near every evening
on camera. So we went in there one evening and
as we're kind of walking in, don't really have the
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wind great, but we think we can make it work. Well,
all of a sudden there's just this lone board just
cruising man just looking for them Harems and he Casey.
It's like, hey, go shoot that thing or whatever. So
Casey runs up there with Eric and he the pig
kind of comes into the gap at like probably what
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fifty forty forty five, something like that forty seven. Eric
made sure to ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
At the time I could should be concentrated when.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You should have been shooting, was actually, did you do
you see him or something? Wasn't it?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, if you know me and you know Eric, you
know one of us has seen the dog for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
But what was going on is that back we're fixing.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I actually show the video from this this past year
hunted Oklahoma in my bowfell out of the tree and
didn't mess up the bow as far as accuracy or
tuning or anything, but it stripped out. It hit right
on my side, so it stripped out the gearing on
my sight, so I don't have it. My sight will
still adjust and do it accurately, but it doesn't want
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to do it without you working on it. So I
was trying to make because I have a twenty and
a thirty five, and I was like, I don't want
a pin gap from thirty five to forty seven. That's
a good way to miss a pig or wound one.
Or trying to smoke things. Oh yeah, because smoking stuff
is cool.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Well, smoking pigs is what you have to do or
you won't find.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
You won't find, those won't be gone.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
So I was trying to mess with my sight and
the pig got away. But it's you know, I kind
of liked that that happened the way it did. He
didn't spook bad, and I didn't put an air anymoanting
and die like the next day, and you know, so like.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
We didn't have to go just all looking for him.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
For didn't have to go just stomp rething.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
So now that same area is where we're seeing pigs
on camera like crazy all day long.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
They're fixed to me back. The corn just went off.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Right right now. And right after that happened, I was like, Okay,
why don't you wait and see if the sounder shows up.
I'm gonna go back over to this other feeder as
a few hundred yards away. Uh, well, me and Michael
take off over there. And as soon as we like
coming over, we crossed this creek and we're coming up
and like as we're crossing it, I can see them
just backs at the feeder, and I'm just like, oh
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my gosh, dude, there was a million of them.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It was like ridiculous in daylight.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Since I know what in the world, dude. So anyways,
Michael with you, Yeah, smelt you all for sure. Well,
we were heading we were actually supposed to have like
a an opposite wind. Michael's here by the way, and
we we ended up having like an opposite wind of
what we were actually called for, which is one thing
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that happens to just a little lot down in this bottom.
It's i mean, it's just nasty floodplain stuff and it's
just bad. I mean, we've had a good wind up top,
like solid strong wind, and it just like as it
got evening it kind of died a little bit and
just working bad. And Uh, anyway, Michael and I come
up and these pigs are at the feeder, so I'm
just gonna go right at them. There's some big ones
there right. I start to see them kind of leak
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off to the right a little bit, like one or
two of them, and then I look over and there's
like the other half of the million that are over
there to the right a little bit. Well, our wind
is kind of blowing towards that direction a little bit,
and I'm like, dude, we got to get to the
right so that our wind doesn't blow all these pigs out.
They're fixing it. They've already because there's a million of them.
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They've already eaten like one kernel each and they're done,
like there ain't anymore corn left. So I take off
to the right and we're just flying and Michael's, you know,
keeping up pretty good. And anyway, these pigs they're getting
with it. And we probably walked one hundred yards maybe
or whatever, and then I just couldn't get any further
around them, and they they smelled us, and it was
(27:02):
weird because only like one or two smelled us, and
they started wigging out, but the other one's kind of
wigged out, and then they did this loop, and I
thought this one pig was gonna come right at us.
I actually had like a forty five yard shot as
well at one of the pigs. Uh, but it just
wasn't It wasn't great. Michael wasn't really on him, and
I asked it wasn't his fault. This was a quick deal,
and I was like, you got you on him? And
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usually if the cameraman's quiet, it means he's not on him, so.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
They never say no, no, it's just like, uh, do
you want to hit set?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
And uh? And so I just I know I've learned that,
you know, silence means don't shoot. And because actually Greg
and I when we hunted, I hunted that rifle Texas.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Lit and Greg was like, if you went silence, don't shoot,
you'd never get to shoot with Greg.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Well, Greg, see, but no, that's what I'm saying is Greg.
Greg taught me. He was like when I was like
you on him, Greg, he goes yeah, And I was
like are you sure and he goes yes, And so
I shot. Well. I went back and watched the footage
and he was on him both times. He said yes,
So now I trust him.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
You know, Michael's good at getting on stuff fast.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, you know, yeah, it probably get is too. Actually
Greg sees both these guys see the deer really well
and get on them. They're just they're just gamers, dude.
They know how it is to hunt man, so they
do a really good job of that. It's just but
you mean, still, it's camera. It's camera stuff, you know,
so you gotta you don't know for sure, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Uh. The good thing about all that is that we
now are gonna have a really good hog video because yeah,
we had some clothes encounters.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We did, but we still have to kill one.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
We're going to and here's the thing that we're The
video is gonna tell you some stuff about this kind
of deal. But uh, I use the Weather Channel app.
This is not an endorsement for the Weather Channel app. Okay, No,
they mess things up a lot. You might could check
on X and see.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
If they have this data. They probably do.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
So according to the Weather Channel AP, on Thursday, we
have a south at thirteen.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
That's going to go well for us.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Oh yeah, for sure, that's what we need.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, we're gonna go do some pig killing on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
They're dropping bombs on them, bomb dead least. Hey, I'm
shooting one on the run.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I'm gonna take my alleladdle.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I want to shoot one on the run. So bad
and hit it right in the right behind the ear
and just drop it, dude.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
So a long while back, me and are good buddy
Dan went and did a little walk about one time
where their bows, trying to shoot some pigs, and somehow,
some way a board started running at us, as opposed
to away from us. I don't think he knew we
were there. It's like he got spooked by something else.
We could see him coming for long ways, but he's
running about in here full speed. So I tried to
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give him the old lead, you know. I put it
like a foot in front of his nose and released,
and I think I hit three foot behind him. So
if you have one at like thirty yards out there,
it's way in front.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah it is. Listen. I'm actually not endorsing the running shot, Okay, y'all,
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I think if it's a if it's a close deal,
then it's a lot different. Yeah, thirty yards is pretty far.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
There's plenty of rednecks listen to this podcast that understand
that temptation to shoot one on the run. Yeah, And
I mean, at some point in my life I might
have done that. It's hard to hold off sometimes and
again we're going back to we make mistakes, you know what, So.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I do it again.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I'm the same for me.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, pigs, y'all know, if you know anything about us,
I shoot and very few times does the arrow not
get flung and uh especial man. I shot a white
tailed buck on the run at like two hundred and
sixty yards one time, which I wouldn't advise doing to anyone,
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is that it was on my fifth shot with my
seven mag was eleven. Okay, So yeah, you try stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
When you were eleven, Oh guarantee.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
If you don't, then you try stuff when you're in
your thirties and you look way dumber.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah so, and I mean I still look dumb.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, So you think about it's the same white till
buck five shots. I'm on the edge of a rim
rock and uh, he's just running through the bottom getting
lead flung at him. Well, I hit him in the
antler at some point in time, because it knocked off
half his rack.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Dang, I thought that Illinois was the first time you
ever shot it here in the antler.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
No, that wasn't the first first time with the bow,
I think. And then.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I shot him on fish shot. Well, if you know
anything about a room into mydel seven hundred. They only
hold three plus one, so I had I'd emptied the
clip and had to put another one in.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
There and dropped him.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Dude, Yeah, but it ain't.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You don't talk about how many shots that were you dropped?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
You like Jeremy or Jerry mickeylec whatever his name is.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Miss I don't know which one of you.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I'll send me a message. Uh that dude, that dude
is bad to the bone. Dude, he is bad.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I like the guy shoot the bow shooting him, ask Prins,
Tyron Byron, Yeah, Byron Nelson.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I think right.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
He's good. Old guy Niche jokes. We tell, but nobody knows.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
The couple people in Texas.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
A hunting been going on. Also, I've got three freezers
at my house. I killed four bucks this year and
I am out of room.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
We have these community freezers we do. I've got I
had to buy a new stand up. I've got a
I've got two fridges. I got a stand up freezer.
I got two fridges that both have freezers in them.
And I got a uh whatever they call them whatever,
chest free chest freezer. And that was not super big,
but it's decent and I'm full up to my walk.
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I bought my stand up like not long ago.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
I'm glad you got it.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
We put two whole hogs in that thing, and so
that was some deer meat. Yeah, and like got Monil
guy than I do. And so I mean, like weird
community live.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I hope there's still down there. I haven't seen NOI
down a long time, but it's at the bottom somewhere,
I'm sure. I mean, I found an elk backstrap the
other day. Oh my God killed the Elksin's twenty two.
So uh, he's sad, right.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
So that video got a lot of use, lack of focus.
You know, it's a lie of the problems back then.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
So yeah, that was that was the That was for
sure the issue. It wasn't the fact that your first
choice was a cal.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
The species identification is also a struggle for some members
of the team.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
You gotta elaborate, though, you gotta tell tell what that
what you bean there.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Well, the first mistake was me because I applied for
a calok tag as my first choice while being a
point holder.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Okay, my first time you were guaranteed times two.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
That's right. Actually, I don't think I was. I think
I had a sixty percent chance of drawing it. Yeah, that's
the state status of l.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Hunting in this world.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
You better off.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Spending money just deer hunting. So mistake number one was
made purchase the tag anyways, we're going on a calail
count or going on an adventure defensive tag team. Mistake
number two was Michael didn't wear any mosquito repellent yep.
And then mistake number three Michael and Eric didn't know
(34:48):
the difference in muldier fawns in cow Elk.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
And I'm telling the truth. We are chasing so it was.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
It is, And these Yankees ain't ever seen mountains, much
less melia fawns.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
You know, airs from the Prairie state.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I guarantee you, dude, I guarantee.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
You is flat to flat flat.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
It's it is like glacial plane, you know, Uh.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
I sage man, yeah, man, all that good stuff. But
we were on Elk that morning. We'd seen Kayak. We
know what they look like.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Everyone in the party had seen Kayok as of that morning.
So we hear the bull.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
They're real gray right.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah, small, uh, real dumb too. Just look at you,
all right, by forty yards. So anyways, we hear the
herd bull with his cows, which would be cool to shoot,
but I can't shoot him, so I'm gonna go shoot
one of his cows.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
And we're calling back and forth to him trying to
locate him. We know where he's at and make a
big scramble. It's actually really cool hunt. And so we
push up the mountain through like this kind of ponderosa
looking area, but it's kind of thick, and Greg and
I are up in front because he's my primary camera guy.
Michael and Eric are playing auxiliary back there, and.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
We move up. I do a couple like calf lost
calf mewse.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
And sure enough, here comes ten or twelve cows down
the hill, and the first one kind of sees us
and locks up, but then the other ones are just
pushing her down, so she has to come out.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I draw my bow.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
She catches me drawing, makes a little loop and ends
up like ten yards further out. Well with an elk,
I know for sure you know where to hold for
an extra ten yards on them.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
That's right, they're big and uh.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Greg was very fresh when it comes to filming. That
was this first hunt to film. I think he filmed
some go.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Car action off car Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Oh that's right, see, which also may have been may
have been fuzzy. But there's this thing on a cameras
that's called an autofocused button, and it's a thing we
use a lot. You can probably watch in our footage
where like instead of using like a ring on the lens,
you hit this button and it just grabs focus on
(37:26):
whatever you're pointing at. Well, that goes to not working
as good once it starts getting later, like a lower light,
we're a pretty low light condition and Greg hits the
autofocus button and it's like your camera goes into spasmode
if it doesn't it work, and not only is it
out of focus, it's like censored.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
It's a sensor. It's a giant sensor. That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
You look back and laugh at it now, you know,
because it was like year and a half ago, right,
and now Greg is just nailing it. I mean that
hunt you were just talking about, well ago where he
filmed did you shoot that deer with a rifle?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
That hunt? Is like awesome?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, well yeah that is. And I was thinking about
that hunt earlier. I actually got to shoot that deer
on the run too, because I shot him once and
then he ran and I was like, I couldn't believe
that he's running.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
It must have been because you were six point five
creed More.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
I don't know why else it would be man that
hate Listen. We've gotten a few messages about this, but
like there's a lot of mixed reviews on what the
six five will do. It does seem like a lot
of people think that it does kill deer pretty effectively.
Now as far as blood trails and stuff like that,
you know, or what bullet type those are different.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
That's the thing. Everybody messes up his bullet type. I think.
I don't want to go off into that whole spill.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I kind of yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I like to kind of say polarizing things that actually
not have you see me do this like in Ohio
one time. You know, like sometimes you just say something
to continue the conversation, not that you actually.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Believe, you know, it's just like, hey, well what points
are you going to make?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Fundies?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
You know, you know, and I mean sometimes you want
people to make points so that you can learn what
points you want to make because you have the same
you know, I want.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
To see what the other guy would have to say about.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Yeah, so but all that freezer talk to say, we
got to figure out a way to not have so
much stuff in the freezer.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
So you've all been waiting for it. The element culinary
videos are on the way.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
But no, seriously, we actually are gonna do a little
bit of stuff because I think a lot of us
are in this situation where the world's a little weird.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
So there's this whole you know, prepper.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Aspect to things or homesteading where we're trying to become
less dependent on, you know, the the big grocery stores,
or maybe you're just looking at a new way to
cook meat, whatever it might be, or you know, our
maiden function is to find more freezer space. And for me,
I'm kind of like I'd like to rely less on
(39:53):
electricity and not have to have three freezers. So recently
we did a the deer meat Cannon video, which I've
never done any deer meat cannon. But a whole year
ago I got a pressure cooker for Christmas, and I
have not used it for one whole year because I
haven't had time. But now we were like, you know what,
(40:14):
let's make a video about this and try this. So
it forced me to kind of take.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
The plunge, and.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
I think the results were better than expected for.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Me for sure, Like there was a I won't give
away too much about what happened in the video, but
we didn't mess up something what we decided we could
do better, and it caused me to believe that this
wasn't going to be nearly as tasty as it was,
and it was fantastic. I love it.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Let's go yeah, yeah, So we now are gonna.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Be Michael's working on that video thing?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Is he right now? Okay?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Okay, who's doing that video? Okay, okay, that's kind of
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Michael's doing that video. It should be probably probably borrow
or something. Deadlines are people that one hanging around here.
We'll have another video, you know, I told you about
that Oklahoma hunt. We'll have that video out soon and.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Then the next video would be the deer Can video.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
But if you haven't, go subscribe to the Element YouTube
channel because that Oklahoma video very well might be out
by the.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Time this podcast is out. I don't know. We're about
to look at it right after this. Remember to do that,
and remember this is your element, live in it,
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