E317: 100K Subscribers! (A Look Back at Some of the Best Hunting Moments)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Casey and you're listening to the Element podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
What is happening all my woodspeople? Hey Tyler, how did
we use to open the Element podcast?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Do you remember like the first old way? No, I
don't because today nowadays back my first Light gear. Yeah,
and First of Light has the new Western stuff available
for viewing on the website.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
You can't purchase it. It wasn't always brought up by First
Light the no, it was. In fact, I'll talk about
this later, but in the year of twenty twenty one,
in mid season was about the first time I ever
started wearing First Slight stuff. I'll tell you that story later.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I remember that, so uh. I think maybe the intro was,
you know, we used to do a little slower.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
There was a couple of weeks that were different, but
then that at one point early on we started what
we do now and it's pretty much carried on, and
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
That it used to end differently. That was the big
thing because when now we have like the whole catchphrase
this is your element, live in it, and we didn't
have that like in the first couple Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
but that's the podcast, which is its own just beast right.
I appreciate y'all being here listening, but if you didn't
know here very recently, actually, this past week, the Element

(01:31):
YouTube channel surpassed a goal of ours from a long
time ago. It's just been something we worked towards for
quite a while. We eclipsed the one hundred thousand subscriber mark, eclipsed.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I love it, which is a big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Man. I mean, I'm not trying to brag on ourselves,
but to me, it means a whole lot.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
It really does. Yeah, It's something that I've kind of
been looking forward to for a long time. Yeah, hoping
that we would get there. So I guess we're done,
and we did it.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
We're over. We're We're not gonna upload anything anymore. They're
just kidding. Actually, we just had a video hit the
the streaming services of YouTube yesterday. It's a deer meat
cannon video, which is a little bit, you know, different
than what we do.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
That was going in there.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
It might have been you know, it may or may
not have even been meat. You know, might be beyond me.
I don't know. You just got to watch the video
and see and beyond. But uh, go check that out
if you haven't. But today we're joined by Greg Latham's
up and Eric Gentry.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Michael's with us in spirit.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
However, he has been Oh I thought you're gonna he's
gonna sound like buffaloes and he's, uh, Michael sick. He
had to stay at home today. But he's still working,
which is cool. He's he's a hard worker man, but
he's not gonna be here.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
He woke air.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Cup being sick this morning. That's how bad it was.
But we're gonna recount a little bit of the stuff
that led us to this one hundred thousand mark. We've
been kind of throwing this stuff around. Eric put together
a pretty sick Instagram reel the other day of like
kind of some highlights from YouTube, and we thought that
it might be kind of fun to recount some that stuff,

(03:17):
tell some stories, and uh, you know, Greg's been here.
You're working on your third year working with us, so
we have two years of history of doing videos. We've
known you since twenty twenty, right, yeah, we've.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Been you know, chatting on Instagram. Pray back to twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I think I think when that was that when the
hog meetup was was twenty twenty those twenty yeah, and
that's when Eric first showed up was for that ice
good and I figured you'll might have some little bit
to add to that. But what I'm saying is like
the first bit here, you'll we'll probably hear more from
Tyler and I not that y'all are not welcome to speak,

(03:59):
because at that point in time, somewhere through there, y'all
were people who watched us on YouTube, So you probably
have some maybe some interesting thoughts of like when that
kind of stuff was happening or whatever. And then you know,
as the years progress, you'll have your own takes on
things that happened because Eric and Greg and Michael two

(04:21):
kind of see things differently than we do. H Tyler
and I do because we're on camera so much like
they noticed, like some really silly things that I don't
know about myself sometimes. So that's always cool to hear
we talk about on White Tail bum till both podcasts
tuned into that next week, right, we can do next year,

(04:41):
next year. Tyler, congratulations, thanks man, thank you, You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Congratulations to YouTube very much.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Lots of things, man, What is the earliest thing on
YouTube that you have?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
The earliest memory? Uh, I have, so I guess I
would start with the first thing we ever put on YouTube,
which was this, Like, guys, the world of producing videos
has changed immensely in the last eight years, right, So
at the time, I was very involved in higher production,

(05:20):
cinematic style video and I loved it. I wanted to,
you know, produce videos like you know, Rock House Motion
or somebody. And it's morphed, right, because you got to
make a living and you get better at this stuff,
and in the end, what I want to do the
most is usually not what the most people want to see.

(05:43):
And if I'm putting videos on YouTube, then it's not
necessarily for me, it's for a lot of other people,
including one hundred thousand people at this point. So I
remember us putting together this little like thirty second teaser,
and there's not really a lot to say about it
other than the fact that you and I started out hunting,

(06:06):
We met up, we fished, and then when deer season came,
we decided you were kind of like living between the
coast and here I think still maybe uh or maybe
a full time back. I had moved back.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Cassie and I got married that November. So like a
lot of the highlights from that happened in November and December.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, yeah, And so we actually had a really like
the best like November and December on Texas public land
we probably ever had as far as just sightings. We
had a spot, man, we had a spot. It was good,
and Scar came out and gave us a really tough
string jump at what at thirty yards? Yeah, it's right there,

(06:50):
I mean, came out of a skin. So but that
that was like the that was the pinnacle, you know,
And so I couldn't believe that we could see a
deer that nice on public land in Texas at the time.
And we made a little thirty second video, and so
that'd be the earliest thing I remember really, you know
after that, you know, there's a lot of there's film
something before that, though that came out after that. Oh

(07:13):
black and white, black and white, Yeah, yeah, that's the
first thing on my list.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
But you you are correct and saying that that's the
first video. Yeah, but black and White, oh came out
later than that because you spent some time on the edit.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
What Yeah, yeah, I'm just watching some of the old videos,
like we used to do a PLC public Land Chronicle series. Yeah,
and I'm just kind of I got these kind of
going while I'm watching Black and W.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Meant a lot to me because it was kind of
my first time leaving Texas to just go do something
kinda to use like a word from high school, like random, right, Like,
it wasn't a call raado elk hunt.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's only the thing i'd really left the state to
go do outdoors.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Wise, yeah, they did a little tuna fishing in Losing It,
but anyways, it was it was just a different thing
because you and I just had no money and we
split gas and went and stayed in the campground and
fished and filmed some of it, and it was just
it was just a much different thing.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
And it kind of opened my eyes to a.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Well in this PLC, particularly that I'm watching right now,
which when is it it's sheds and deads.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Sheds and dead because Sheds and Beds did so good, guys.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
We have video called Sheds and Beds that came out.
It was I mean it was we knew that everybody
knew about this video after it got eight hundred views,
so everybody in the world should know what sheds and deads.
How that kind of is you know, stupid abstract stuff
we used to.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
I mean, I bet you the first twelve videos and
podcast titles were this way too. We tried to be
cute and like creative with titles nobody knew we were
talking about. It has a clue what's going on.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I listened to a podcast called Knowing Faith and the
guy who runs it. There's three of them, but the
guy who runs it they make for the other two
make fun of him all the time for making like
cut titles or whatever, just funny, goofy titles. But in
Sheds and Deads there's a buck. We had some of

(09:15):
our best trail camera pools ever. And yeah, monkey is
in here. Remember that buck.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I do remember Monkey.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Teenager is in here, and then there's some some other
big bucks. But our cameras got flooded at tr you
remember that, like way flooded. Like I opened one of
and I like all out of the camera. Yeah, but
this is a cool video because there's like tree frog
and stuff. I just remember PLC was just like us
just walking around on public land. And I mean literally,

(09:45):
like three hundred views is.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
A lot for his log gets a lot of times too,
because it was just like we're gonna document no matter
what we're doing. Yeah, it's fun though, I mean it
made us learn how to act actually tell stories. Yeah,
that's right. And you know, make something out of nothing
a lot of times, and then you kind of have

(10:08):
to feel like figure out the balance of whence you
actually have nothing and when there is something to be
made out of and nothing.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
You know, and then like not too far after that,
Nameless comes up, right, Yeah, I think you're right. I
mean it would be that fall. Yeah, that's right. You know.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
So we did plc's probably is like some summer scouting
of twenty seventeen, and we.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Did plc's probably up to like twenty nineteen maybe, Yeah,
I mean they were a series for several years.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
We find your just transition from PLCs to season playlist,
which is, you know, just kind of a different thing
that we did just try and stuff. But anyways, Nameless
would be like, I don't know, a monumental moment, you know.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Nameless didn't release though for a while, Okay, until twenty eighteen.
That's that's true. We held it for a while because
I've got I'm looking through this Smiths stuff and i
got like the first time we ever decided to go
to low Country and found out it was bad to
the bone, and just thinking about like how that translated
into an encounter with a deer called Chong, that it

(11:16):
was a really cool buck.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
I wish we could have put it.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Together on him, and honestly the biggest buck on Texas
public we've ever encountered. But we didn't actually encounter him.
We just had him on trail camera a few times. Yeah,
absolute giant.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I'm telling you it would score because it's hard to telling.
Me said, but he looks like a boon and crocket deer,
but you know huge, because.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I think he looks bigger than that deer to me,
he's huge anyway, that that deer being the ranch buck. Sorry,
I don't realize that y'all are listening and not seeing.
But yeah, so that stuff kind of released on the
channel prior to Nameless. You know another thing Chong is

(12:08):
before Nameless, So Chong didn't. But I was just saying
that that first first video. I was watching that earlier
and it kind of led to that. We never really
had a bunch of great big buck encounters, but that
was one of them from that first scouting that we
did there, going forquad Urban Series in Minneapolis. Those are

(12:28):
a couple of my favorite fishing videos.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Urban Series was fun, man, it used to be so
we were always we're maximizers anytime we go and do
stuff right, Like, you can't just go on a SHD
hunting trip. You have to stop halfway and scout this
other piece of public in this other state and this
that and the other. And that was just kind of
a product of that thing. We were up there for
a conference, which was a cool thing in itself of like,

(12:52):
I don't know, it was like, Wow, we're legitimate, we exist,
We're getting invited to conferences, you know. And we were like, okay,
well we have like a day between the last you know,
we flew out the day that we did.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, well it was like twenty four our period.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I think we had like an evening and then in
the morning and then we flew out, right.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
I don't think we fished that evening.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
We fished an evening because that's when we caught that
big old guess Pergo or whatever it was. I I
think we caught a drum or something. I don't.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I mean, this video starts and we're leaving the hotel
and we fish throughout the day.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
There might be some Hollywood involved in there too, who
I think.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I don't think so, because we're leaving right at dark
the uh in the plane, but it was like, let's
stay a little longer and just enjoy our time so
you can find some fishing. You're wearing the same clothes too, Yeah,
it's because I only packed two pairs. We're both wearing
the same clothes as when we started the day on

(13:55):
here blue shirt, man, But.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, I mean that's good on film, man, what's that
blue looks good on film?

Speaker 2 (14:06):
It does? Man's right? Great, you caught a ton of
fish that day. We caught like species. You did a
good job at day man.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
And then going for Squad, which is the Guadalupe Bass
of Texas native fish here, we did a pretty cool
video there. That was the first time we ever shot
four K I think. Yeah, I think you put in
the title yeah because you were like it's a big deal.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, is it twenty eighteen? Yep.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
That was a pretty fun deal though that that. I mean,
those two videos right there were like they were channel builders.
I think you know, they got like around ten thousand views,
you know, pretty quick for us at the time. Which
was like we thought, can't believe these things are doing this?

Speaker 1 (14:47):
You know, isn't spiked out in there somewhere too.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, we did that in seventeen. Where's that that? Yeah?
There it is yep.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
I mean that was the channel builder too. Like we
were how many views does they have now? Seventeen thousand?
So it got to ten pretty quick. Yeah, we were
like really impressed with that. We thought that was awesome still.
I mean even now we get ten thousand years of video,
feel pretty good about it.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
What other fishing trip and happened to twenty eighteen that
you really.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Liked fishing trip in eighteen?

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Uh? Are you looking at it and you're trying to
bait me out of this? I think you wrote it
down on your list. At least you were talking about
it earlier. I thought that was in nineteen. That's eighteen.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Ye See, this is why I'm confused, because I get
it off. We went to the Black Canyon at some
point in time, yep, and that was really that was
eighteen Okay, Yeah, yeah, I guess that kind of does
make sense. Yep. Of course, I mean that was like
the first back country trip I ever did.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Then we were down in the canyon for.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Two nights, right, Yeah, we think the crap down fished, slept,
fished all day, slept and hiked out and uh, I
carried like twenty pounds of.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Food, all of it in peanut butter.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
But it was the dumbest thing, man. Yeah. And I
got cramps on the way down because it didn't eat
enough before we went down, So it's like, what what
are we doing here? Man? But that was sick in itself.
I mean that was like one of the more cinematography
loaded things we've done. You know. We and twenty pounds

(16:28):
of food and fifty pounds of camera gear because we
brought like, yeah, the bazooka down there was.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, we did, and tripods and gimbals and all the stuff. Yeah,
for sure, that is a cool video and it still
does pretty well for us.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
We didn't talk about Nameless enough, man, I.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Don't know, we're coming up here on the channel. Did
this Black Canyon came out before?

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Now?

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Another thing that came out before Nameless is the another
media summit we did in the Bozeman area, and it's
titled Tons of Trout on YouTube, and it came out
right before Nameless and it's not been a super channel
builder or anything. But like, I just love I will

(17:11):
go back and watch that video every year because we
were we were bumming so hard at the time, man,
like you and I. We rented rented a minivan. We
flew up there, went in points off of y'all's car. Yeah, yeah,
our credit card, and we rented a minivan and drove
around and fished for trout for a couple of days
before the summit and maybe a couple days after or

(17:33):
something like that. But essentially we camped in that minivan.
So we would pull up to like rest areas, state
rest areas and camp in the back, laying down with
the seats down in the back of that minivan, and
it was pretty tiring. Luckily we were young men at
the time. And uh, I just I love it because
we caught We caught big, some big trout. We caught

(17:54):
a bunch of really awesome trout. We wade fished the
Madison and just had a good high man.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
It was awesome. And I didn't realize how close you
were getting it eaten by bears yeap while we were there.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, you know, scary.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Apparently more grizzly bears in there than what it looks like.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
There's more than there are here.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Then the next very next video is Nameless.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Okay, sorry, I was trying to get to it so much.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, oh it's good.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
I mean it's a big it's an important almost a
one year lapse between filming and uh released, I guess huh,
I think that's right. Yeah, that's weird. Maybe more so
it's twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
The first video say seven years ago, which I guess
they're you know, they are coming up on No, they
would have been filmed almost eight years ago. It will
be eight years as fall, right, so so and then
that Nameless says five years ago, right.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Here, Nameless came out? What day? What dated names? Let
me look, let me click on it real quick, because
we touched t Outed in July of eighteen.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, that's when we did it, right or August early
August September third, twenty eighteen. That's when Nameless came out.
It's a good time to release video. Yeah it did
pretty well.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Uh huh, man Tyler, you're a hundred in that video.
Why don't you tell us more about Nameless? Well, I
can say this.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
I remember, you know, we really at that point we
were like Okay, we can do some stuff here. We're
making some cool video. We killed a big deer on public.
It was my first public landeer, and I thought, man,
you know, somebody this video is cool. Somebody should you know?
Like just business wise is like, man, somebody should you

(19:36):
know pay for a title, sponsor or whatever this thing?
And we couldn't. I know, there's a couple of brands
that we couldn't get them to pay for. And I
look back now and I'm like, I understand why. But
the video has one hundred and four thousand views, so
it did pretty well. At this point in time, I
thought things worked differently. I kind of had like ant
geo model in my head almost where we were.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Going to sell that food. It is to X brand
for them to distribute they want well, And I think
at the time the model for for the hunting industry
was a lot like that too, where it's like, hey,
you you know this company produces this video and then
yet he puts it out or whatever.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Right, So it either way, it didn't work for us.
Uh So we got a little bit of YouTube that's about.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
That second angle footage. Man, it was just it was
kind of we can get over it. We uh, we
didn't and are you ready for the light? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:28):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Oh man, See this is that YouTube stuff, this funny
look back on TODDR and I drove giving away the secret.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah man, that's what this is about.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
We filmed Nameless, and then we sat around and decided that, uh,
you know, through the editorial process that there's there was
some plot holes, and one of those is like a
a motel scene.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
So we drove on location. It's like a we needed
to get from one day to the other on the
video instead of just going to a motel. I don't
even was it an option, because I feel like it
wasn't an option. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Maybe we were going to get some b roll or
something else. You know. We drove to like Canada. The Yeah,
we drove very far north to go to a motel
and filmed literally five seconds of footage. It's good maybe
not even being there for sure.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Should nobody's really ever mentioned much about it except for
you and Slay Daniel.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
It's pretty funny though, but uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
So that's fun. That was a that was a big
deal for us.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Man.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
There was a there was a saying we had that
came from that video rage and roosters, Right, we used
to say it all the time. We hadn't said it
in a couple of years, but we had this rooster
that challenged our truck going down the road. It was
really funny, it was real cool. You know where that
rooster was, don't you?

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Can we say on because I don't remember? Is that
the plump ticket?

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Really spooky. Yeah, there's a lot of things that are there. Yeah,

(22:30):
it's strange to think that anyways. Yeah, yeah, and the
rut raging rooster. Was always wanted to make a T
shirt out of it. I wanted a I wanted a
like a somewhat cartoonized red rooster pheasant like with his
wings flapping, him standing up, his chest sticking out and

(22:51):
having this like mad look with an eyebrow that's like
slanted down, like mad, you know. And I wanted to
have that drawn up and putting a shirt with the
word rut raging stranded.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, if you want one to go, get it made yourself.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah uh but maybe one day, maybe one day, you know,
if we start selling.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
So yeah, I got you, I got you, so you
can see it. Okay, there's nameless how you didn't want
to talk about can't trust the weather man.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, that's pretty good amount of views for a PLC.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
I know that's a big deer in that thumbnail. Yeah,
he's nice man. Oh names came up before, tons of trout.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
No, this is we're going this way.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Oh no, sorry, okay. Yeah. And so then we have
a buddy who lets us shoot dose at his house
and he sexus because we didn't have anywhere else to
shoot any end.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
You shot the world's toughest dough.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
I shot a tough dough and then that's a big one. Uh,
I killed an elk. I sell film and killed an
elk with my parents. We don't have the shot on film,
but a lot everything else is on film. And it's
actually a pretty cool video. And uh, I don't know.

(23:59):
That video gave me confidence that, like I wasn't just
the hunter. Uh And you're a guy who knows how
to do all this stuff. It's like I can go,
sure do this.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
You know, you bought that camera and you still got
it somewhere. I don't That video has fifty thousand views.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
That's pretty cool. Well we could, you know, we could
probably take that twenty eighteen out of there. And people
think it was from this year. Yeah, and you know,
you might have a somebody who works for the state
that thinks that it was you killed it in February.
I think that we were we were.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Doing yeah exactly. We were doing the thumbnail thing better
then than maybe.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Where it's done now. Yeah, because look at all this
text in these thumbs.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Good text and also go pros are really good at
taking thumbnail screen graps.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, hey, this podcast might get kind of long if
we keep doing this, but I'm sorry, but this video
it's called them Bods. We saw ag I on Texas
Public the uh what two days before the season, So
we were like, we gotta go back, and we end
up driving this stretch of road because he was we

(25:09):
could see him from the road and two vehicles and
two vehicles and we're going back and forth and you
can't turn around until you get like several miles down
the road. There's a turnaround to get turned around. So
so that we didn't miss him coming out. We had
two vehicles going back and forth down this road for
like the last forty minutes of daylight, and we never

(25:30):
saw him. The day before season, we went back in
there to hunt that next morning, which was the first
day of the season there was. It was ninety five degrees.
It was so humid, and I dropped k C drove
We drove bikes, right, yeah, I draw no. I dropped
you off in the truck, you with all the gear,
and you were gonna go hang stands, and we couldn't

(25:51):
park there, so I had to drive way back up
and park in this parking area and then take my
bike and go down this road all the way to
where you were, like maybe two miles and so I'm
just coasting getting it.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's dark.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
I got my headlamp off because I could see decent,
you know, I could see the road in front of me,
and dude, I almost smoked a guy walking in on
the road. It was dark where I couldn't see him,
and all of a sudden, this headlamp comes on like
ten yards in front of me because he heard me coming.
And I was like, I almost wrecked my bike trying
to miss him, dude, And I was.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Like, sorry, guy, I also have an interaction with So
we didn't see anything the whole morning, and then you
left to go get the truck, and I took all
the stands down. Well, I had a rumble bad and
I had to get down and go use the bathroom,
and that dude caught me pooping in the wood and

(26:46):
just he popped out because I thought I was alone
in the willardness, you know, so I wasn't like super hidden,
and you know you're.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
In the woods. What do you hide from? You don't
know which direction to hide from?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Right? And this guy pops out like one hundred fifty,
catches me and then still walks over and talks to me.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Man, what a weird thing if you just kind of
waved and walked on to be a little less hawky weird. Yeah,
probably wanted to see what you were seeing.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Man.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Probably that was so these these That was the opening
day of twenty eighteen as the last opening day after
I think, what about what year Greg, did you start
watching this?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (27:27):
It's probably right around this time. I remember I remember
watching U were there yet?

Speaker 1 (27:32):
But meat Buck?

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Okay, that'd be the same season, same season.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
I remember seeing y'all like you actually saw a deer
on public land and killed it. I thought, like, man,
these guys know what.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
They That was our first rage fest of commentary for sure.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Eric, What about you watch this is after this, we'll
get to it. Stop us when we get there. We
had a lot of there's a lot of stuff going
on at this time. There's some Kansas hunting going on,
and then there's also some Texas public land stuff. And
Tyler had to pursuit for a deer named Teenager that
we'd found the previous off season, and so like we

(28:09):
you built like a storyline around that deer. So it
made us do a lot of Texas public land hunting
for a couple of reasons, but one being that deer,
and the other thing is just that, I mean, we
didn't have a lot of other opportunities besides me, and
we wasted a ton of time, but we also learned
a lot. We're doing some cool things, man, we I
don't even know it is documented somewhere. I don't know.

(28:29):
It might be the previous season, but we were taking
what could hardly be called a kayak and taking it
across the creek.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
I think that it was this season. Is that is
it that we found Teenager? Hold on a second, No,
it's not that one. It may have been the season before, Like,
isn't a PLC. I'm sure, Yeah, I saw it earlier.
There's a it's called hard hang. I think.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Whereas it right here?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
This one or three three minutes of sixteen seconds.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
We're getting in here.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
We got guys out of here. So yeah, that's on
the edge of the creeker at the getting snooted by
a little buck. Looks should have legal?

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Is he not? Is he not a spot? He broke
off on legal?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Oh and we were being so careful that we didn't
even put the kayak stuff in here. Oh yeah, we
didn't want people to know where one antler spoke was
for real. Anyway, it was fun days. But talking about
to clip right here.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
So you've got three different arrows in your in your quiver,
sure enough on a hand me down bow.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Two of them on the same spine. One's a different spine. Yeah,
I've been broke. That's a nice woody in the front
right there. So yeah, so that was like we were
hunting that deer. We were learning a lot about you know,
the some some land on public in Texas that we
were hunting, and we ended up probably not for a

(29:59):
few years. It didn't pay off, but it paid off eventually,
and we'll talk about that later. That's a that's a
Eric and Greg story. That we'll get to you later on.
But anyway, so working through this stuff, this is this
is the infamous no grunt call fest ridiculous. Then here
we have the oldest buck ever, probably the oldest book

(30:21):
I've ever shot, Frankenstein. This was our first viral video.
And what was weird about it is we put it
out and for about ten months it had twenty five
hundred views, and then all of a sudden, the next November,
ten months later, we started getting these like raging comments
and stuff on our YouTube channel. Start to look and
in three weeks we get one hundred thousand views on

(30:44):
this video. And it was like, there was some mean
people on this thing, because you know, that's what happens.
You know, if you if you shoot a deer, if
you ever shoot a deer and he dies fairly quickly,
but you you know, don't get to recover until the
next day. If you don't do that on video, and
nobody's mad about it. But if you do it on video,
then you're the worst. And uh, I'll speak for myself.

(31:07):
I've learned a lot about deer hunting since that time. Sure,
and like now I know that we could go find
that deer that night by the hit. But at that
point in.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Time, I didn't you were myself. Yeah, you were conveying
it to me. You know, I was trying to tell
you what the best best thing to do.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
To do that if if I didn't bump him, he
was going to be on the property. If I bumped him,
then I didn't you know, I didn't know where he
would go in the darnos, so I didn't have.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
I didn't go out there.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
There you go, Greg, there's Greg video is talking about
the Texas Public land Buck on YouTube. We've changed the
top all that. Yeah, but it was. It was called
the meat Buck for a while, and you had some
pretty good discourse with a few people about why you
shouldn't or should call that the meat buck.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
People apparently don't like it when you eat your deer.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I don't know, it's weird.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Hunters don't like it when you eat it. Antis don't
like it when you don't eat it. That's right, You
stuck in between a rock and a hard place. I
like to look at some of the stuff and see
the stuff that we tried.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
It didn't work. How to build reverse history of big Bucks?
Like nobody cares about that at all, yeah, well, we thought, oh,
this is kind of a cool theory we have. That's
a fear that died that I missed and we found
his deadhead, like, oh man, he gotta eat by coties
and then uh yeah, so doesn't happened. But that's when

(32:20):
I have on my list right there, Hooked Hooked Texas
Turkey Hunting film. If you haven't watched this, I'm gonna
go out on a lemon and say that is our
best video that has the least amount of use.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah. I would say Hooked is awesome.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
And it has one of the baddest slumbo shots you'll
ever see on a turkey. Yeah, and Tyler and I
doubled on the same day on Texas turkey. Is pretty
pretty sweet. It was so much fun. Caught caught some fish,
ate some savice. Yeah, there's a state record you caught Yeah,
big old grass car. Oh, this one's funny, man. You

(32:54):
caught a wild pig. That is a short we should
for sure. Yeah, that was a funny day man to watch.
You just went out there. It's kind of I think
you're grabbing a camera or something and you end up
coming across some pigs and all you had was your phone,
So your video yourself catching one with your brand kind
a piglet down.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
This is cool.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Hey, that huge cameo review got us a lot of us. Yeah,
there was a lot of people that found us because
of that. It's only nine thousand views, but like a
couple people said, yeah, I watched that video on Camo
that trout.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Is that what you're fixing to talk about? Yeah, that
was a cool day. Caught about a twenty three inch
brown trout in California. Put that on Monster It's fun,
not a channel builder. This shooter pass was a moment
that I always I like to think about when I
think about where, you know, we kind of cut our
teeth hunting and stuff. This is a This happened in

(33:44):
twenty seventeen, and this deer is actually the deer that
we saw the next year and drove the highway stretch
back and forth over and over and over again. We
re released this, Yeah we did, Yeah, and it did
still didn't do very well, but you came to full
draw twice this year underneath us. We were only thirty
three feet in the air. But I used to.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Feel real bad about this because it's like man Tyler
could have shot that buck. And now it's like we've
shot quite a few years since then.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, and it doesn't matter, but it was like it
was kind of it kind of hurt for a while
there I did, and but just awesome, a really good
video for our early video stuff of us, you know,
having a Texas public land buck coming underneath this that
was legal, but you decided to pass because.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
He kind of looked young. Yeah, so I was being dumb,
that's right. I don't know. There was a at that
point in my life too. That was the only all
I had was Texas home Loscens. I didn't have any
i know, hout of takes in like my season be
over if I shot that deer and I kind of
wasn't ready to do that at that.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Point in time.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Now it's smoking.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
You're are in twenty nineteen. Yeah, my buddy Anthony, who
I had previously done some filming with and stuff, he
and I went to Nebraska and he shot a dyker
and we had a good trip.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Man.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
We saw a bunch of deer early season September Velvet hunt.
He shot a he shot a basically a spike.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
With velvet and I remember watching these videos when they
came out. Yeah. Yeah, okay, so you were like a
loyal subscriber at this point in time, Well, I was.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
I guess you could say that I was, you know,
I'm a hunter, and I watched the YouTube a lot
and like like, oh, they're posting hunting videos from this season.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
I started watching And that was Tyler's whole intent was
to go get an early jump on stuff for you. No,
like September, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, and it was early September, and yeah that the
idea was that we'd have this episodic series that released
throughout the season, which we have. You know, this is
something if you guys are interested in us doing that,
it's really hard to pull off to get videos turned
around quick. If you're interested in that, I can't say
that we one hundred percent will, but if you'll send
us a message and say, hey, I would love to

(35:58):
see videos that are turned around on like three, five,
six days later or whatever, so that I can, you know,
feel it's just like to me, it's cool as a
viewer to watch something that happened a couple of days ago.
It's kind of like that Rut Report or the ret
fresh that we do on Mark's podcast. You know it's
like this is this is exciting, it's hype whatever. But

(36:18):
at the same time, maybe you guys like something that's
as good as we can possibly produce, which might take
a couple of months, and we can do that too,
So if you got any thoughts about that, feel free
to send U semester on Instagram or wherever you can reach,
a website whatever. But anyway, this series, I can remember,
this was cool. One hunted panch in between these two
water sources.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
This is where we transition to season instead of yeah,
yestead of Public PLC. And you made a cool intro
for a videos. That's the first time that's right forever
like intro and then like a fe us later said
the intros were bad and now we might put intros
on stuff.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah it's an EBB and flow for sure, that works.
But I remember these deer running through this water and
chasing and early September, and there was one hard horn
and one velvet I think, and the hard horn was
like he was like a big one and a half
year old six so still a very small deer, and
I wanted to shoot him bad, but I was like,
I'm pretty hard in here. I got some time I've

(37:14):
seeing a lot of deer, surely I'll see a two
or three year old buck and I never ended up
there was a billion deer and just they didn't there
wasn't any biggins. And then we went out west. Yes
what a couple of weeks later. Yeah, that was, I mean,
one of my most epicunts I've ever been on. And

(37:37):
I can't believe.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Elk cunting is just one of my favorite things to do,
and I just I love it so much and that
one was just one of the best. I don't know
if it I'll ever top it. I think it's because
I was still kind of young and the world was
still real big, you know. And we went out and
just like did the think and backcountry the whole works,
killed ourselves pretty much like our boy he took a

(38:00):
toll on that.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I was working out this morning thinking about the old
knee that.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
I heard got their easels right right then around that time, right,
And I didn't kill an elk on the trip.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
It may be real sad.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
It was like one of the toughest uh servings of
text hooop have ever gotten. But you may have seen
the clip of the biggest elk you've ever seen in
your live on the Elema channel, mean because it's he
was just an amazing animal to be on the side
of the mountain with.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
And just ripped a bugle at twenty five yards and
everybody's like, why aren't you shooting? It's because there was
a tree in between me and the elk that there's
a good five yards difference between you and me, or
at least so. And then I came home and shot
a pig and dropped him in a bow.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
That was cool.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, it's a little not re brief, big moment, but
I have this on my list of the trip to Iowa. Yeah, yeah,
this is fun times.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Man.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
We'd actually previously been to Iowa, which is where Sheds
and Beds video was. I think, right, is it? I
think it's where we that ude. I know we have
anyways count video.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I forgot that Sheds and Beds was the Iowa Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
And so we went there, but we actually went there
two years prior to me having the tag. So the
tag took a little like a year longer than I
thought it would to get.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I get it to visit East Texas, Iowa's PLC Iowa, Okay,
which has eleven hundred views. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Yeah, So we go to Iowa in late October and
we're going to spend like the last week there pretty much.
And guys, we are so broke that we're staying in
the worst hotel we can find, and we're doing a
not tonight payment and I'm just paying cash, like, and
I'm like, I don't know for sure if I tag out,

(39:34):
I can't afford to just like let two outs go
down the drain or whatever. So we're maxed out. In fact,
you weren't supposed to be on that hunt with me,
and we had an arrow partner. And actually, I'll just
go ahead and say it because I'm thankful for this
this moment. But Day six and our buddy Brian gave

(39:56):
us a few hundred bucks so that you could come
on this trip. Yeah, we split it in.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
I think you helped finance the trip and it helped
me make sense to be gone from being having to work.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, so that way I could have a camera guy. Yeah,
and you know, as you can see if you were
on the YouTube channel, you could look through those that
video series and it didn't really garner a whole lot
of views, but there's really cool action and I almost
killed a really big deer on private that we had
that we had betted or we'd figured out where he

(40:29):
was kind of betting.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
That moment right there is a top moment of what
we did have done, just being that's like we've done
a lot of running gun setups, but like we were
putting the pieces together and we we did it, and
that was like one of the first, like yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
And then the very next day we were setting up
in the snow and rattled basically rattled him in by
moving branches around and stuff, and he caught us before
we ever even got fully set up. We're almost set up,
and so that was a that was a sad thing.
But I actually had I decided when I came home,
I was going to go hunt some Texas public and

(41:11):
I shot my first Texas public land buck way go
early November that next year or that same year, and
that was I mean, that was a big moment and
that video, I would say it was a channel builder,
you know, h it did pretty well for us. I
didn't get the shot on video, and that tends to
happen when you're you still care about killing bucks even
if they're off video. And uh, you you know, you

(41:34):
just want to and in the video still people have
been very kind on it, you know, so, but we
we weren't done in Iowa yet. We but we did
have that hunt and we ended up going to going
to Kansas on the problem.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
No, I'm just pointing something out what you guys used
to do.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, for sure, that episode, that's what we were kind
of talking about earlier, is like this episodic. Yeah series,
that is the sea that we went, you know, turned
around really quickly.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
We're just I was just looking at this thinking like, oh,
now we just make all that one video. Yeah, that
whole Kansas trip, right, there's four videos. We would just
make that one video and uh it would be sick.
Yeah that it'd be longer. I don't know. Twenty two
minutes is pretty long for us. Back then, I had
two giant bucks close and didn't you either one of them.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
And you stalked a buck that was going to come
in until the dough caught us or something.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Right, Yes, that's a big year.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, a big year. So yeah, but that was really
that year. It was nineteen That was an that that
year in Kansas. I think that was a year I
didn't kill that was maybe the most encounters with Big
Bucks that I've ever had.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
In Kansas when I started watching. Was when you guys
were in Kansas that year.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Yeah, oh yeah, oh it was. I mean it was great, dude.
It was it was cold too, you know, it was
it was very cold. Yeah, there was that cold front
came in while I was in Texas finishing up that hunt,
and so then we had that we trapped that trip.
He had two really close encounters at like fifty with
two different really big Bucks decided not to fling the

(43:14):
arrow and.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah, man, I was you know, now I would shoot,
but then just had a different setup and I just
wasn't as good as shot. I didn't have a bow
that fit me right, and you know, it's just a
different thing. And I'm glad I didn't shoot it those deer,
but it's stunk because at the end of that season, well.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
We're not there yet. Yeah, so we talked about, Yeah,
after that trip, we had to leave out. Is this
no one of these days I had we had to
leave it was?

Speaker 1 (43:43):
It was?

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Was it that day?

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Was that day that that I got caught doing my
wrap up interview?

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Probably? Yeahah, and yeah, big Bucks fighting on public land.
I had bucks fighting all morning by me on public
and you had to go teach that night and class
in church, and so we had to leave the stand
at like nine or something like that. And so I
at nine, I pulled the came around and started doing
an interview in a giant ten. I hear him walking

(44:12):
through all this nasty brush like forty yards long. Story short,
didn't get him killed.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Uh yeah, And then we went to go you came
to pick me up. I think we went and got
changed and were gonna like put out some corn, and
then that giraffe buck was there whenever we showed up
over there.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah, they still had a half. They had half then, yeah,
and so look at the neck on that time. I
know absolutely the toad. Yeah. But I ended up going
back in mid November to Iowa, and so I had
like two or three days there.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
I was.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
I was so broke, man. I was sleeping in the
back in the back seat of my truck in a
Casey's General Store parking lot and sleeping terribly because big
trucks were coming in all night and stuff. And I
wake up one morning and I go hunt a ridge,
which I'm not a ridge hunter. I don't know how
to do that stuff that much. I just kind of
learned some stuff over the years and then use my

(45:06):
knowledge of deer and try to put it all together.
And anyway, I had a shooter coming in and he
gets about broadside at about twenty and I set the
camera and clip on, and my camera falls forward. It
wasn't fully tensioned, so it falls forward. And then about
that time he starts walking towards me and I try
to move the camera up. By the time I get

(45:28):
it up and getting getting clipped back on, he's five
yards looking at my sticks and follows the sticks up
the tree and sees the sasquatch sitting there at twelve
feet and takes off. And then the next the very
next morning, I killed public land buck in Iowa about
eighty yards off the road. It was awesome hunt. It

(45:48):
sounded like a motorcycle coming in. He was grunting so long.
It's hard do something with this footage. We were looking
at it the other day, so that's on that teaser.
K celebrate it's cool. That's something that and then this
is one of our like one of our another one
of our first channel builders.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
So we got a lot of views with that's still
number thirteen on our channel right now, Real Views.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah, I just looked at it.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah, And when you killed that deer, I was on
my way to go hunting, and I remember being at
the gas station when you called me.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
We were freaking out, we were, And I remember coming
in late. I just went straight to Kansas and came
in late and you were thanks sleeping on the couch
when I got there. And when we started hunting Kansas
again and had some crazy encounters with some big bucks.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
But almost got stepped on. Yeah, I almost got stepped
on by a dip by a deer. And then that
right there, for me was kind of a pivotal moment.
I hit a deer high on the shoulder and lost
him and I think you got to eat my coyotes
in Kansas, And he was like, that's probably the lowest
I've ever felt as a hunter, like because we were

(46:55):
working so hard to try to make the element go
and I hadn't killed anything all year, and that's the
same year as my elk hunt that I didn't kill
and it's just like I and I knew after that
that I was done killing stuff for the for the year,
Like I placed zero tags of animals that year, and

(47:16):
you can't do that if you're trying to make a
living doing this.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, but you know, and we were trying. Yeah, but
we also had a lot of responsibilities. So you were
trying to make a little money here and there doing carpentry.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Work at church. It was just you know, for us
to have the lights on, I had to work and
do the thing at the same time.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
And so and then I remember talking to you a lot.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
I mean I went through a time of probably pretty
good depression after this, where I was just like, I
didn't know if I wanted to do this anymore, you know,
And thankfully you were like telling me you sbout being stupid.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Well, and you know, this will come up here in
a little bit, but this this led to an extremely
it's the low led to an extreme high at some point,
you know, and you were debating even just quitting bow hunting,
right yeah. Yeah, but in between that, when you decided
to bow hunt again. Uh, we did a shotgun in

(48:08):
on some pigs. You feel better. We had our friend
Brian Coke come down and shoot some pigs with us.
He's a he's an upland hunter. He's never really killed
big game and so we were killing the shin and
we had a great hunt. Dude, that was an awesome time.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
It was mustache Yeah, man, good must that too, man,
Like I so sweaty I am. Yeah. And then talk
about channel builders how to shoot a hunting bow for beginners. Yeah,
that is like number eight on our channel. Apparently you're
a good teacher, man. Thanks. Yeah, a bunch in the end,
there's a bunch of vacation stuff for me. I know

(48:44):
this doesn't have a lot of views, but that Christini
cutthroat still gets comments. Yeah, Like there's like a you
hit a niche algorithm with that and all like.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
The all ninety four hundred people in the world that
carry to watch that and watched it, and that's all.
There's no more.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Uh So they're gear views, which I think are a
big part of YouTube. And this right here, the map
Scout challenge stuff. I don't have this written down there
written down on mine. You because you guys came to
my hometown. Uh where you This is the first year
we did this two years yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Yeah, so we took we we went.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
The second year, we went to your hometown and did
some scouting up there, but we did, uh, we did some.
We decided to develop this series called map Scout Challenge
that we did and on X, who is probably our
oldest sponsor, whatever you.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Want to partner that's been with us for a long time.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, you know they've been they haven't ever stopped working again, dude,
I love on X. I will say, not only is
the product just like a great product, and no, like
you know, I don't I don't have like I don't
have to ever feel like, well, most of it's good,
but some of it's not. I mean, it's just great.
I love on X. I love the people that work
there that we've dealt with in the years. And I

(50:01):
really really can't tell you how much I appreciate people
that believe in you, even when you know you maybe
don't have a ton of great things going on. They
can see your potential or whatever. That means a lot
to me.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Hey, there's new base layer maps right now on on X.
You know it just came out long ago. If you
haven't checked, they updated maps. That's good.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
But anyway, we did the map Scout Challenge, which was
pretty cool. It did well for us. It kind of
caused a stir that we didn't really anticipate, but you know,
the random person here and there would be like, well
that's my spot, you know whatever, and it's like, well,
you know, we tried to choose spots that weren't deep
or whatever, like we tried not to burn spots. We're
just showing how we scout more.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Than anything, and it's all learning curve, right, Yeah, And
I think the second year we stopped even saying beyond
what state we were in.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah, I wish that we could do more of these
because there I feel like a lot of people were
thankful that we did this and learned a lot and
I learned a lot personally too. And it's a really interactive,
cool episode. It's got a ton of map stuff in it,
and I felt like it was I can remember the
series was like and when we were filming ten eighty
I believe at the time was like seven hundred gigabyte

(51:13):
series for ten videos. I mean, and I can remember
just taking forever to put it all together, but that
was that was basically our way to get through the
summer and lead us into the twenty twenty season where
we got our first intern ever. And it didn't last long,
but it was helpful for a while there to have

(51:33):
Jack our first intern, and he made a couple of
videos in South Dakota. Was that the first year we
hunted South Dakota?

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yes, yeah, yeah, And this south Coat is on my
list of memorable things because.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
We killed or we excuse me, we shot.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Here on the same night you recovered years you smoked
it mine again to add to my woes, I hit
in the shoulder with five hundred and eighty four grain arrow,
if I remember, I close to six hundred grains and
didn't kill it. It didn't penetrate it at all. Wold
it was ridiculous. But the footage is sick. You know,

(52:14):
you can't there's at some point something is so dense
and hard and it's in the right spot that like
you can't just send stuff through it right, Like you're
not going to send any arrow through a steel plate,
you know what I mean? Not that, but the deer
is that. But there's a big hard part that you
could potentially hit on a deer, you know. But I
can remember that was a great night. I remember there

(52:35):
was like no end. I've never slept that good moment.
The experience of South Dakota, even you just keep me
wounding the deer in there was still just yeah, epic.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
That place was just it's an amazing spot. We we
learned a lot too while we were up there, and
we did a good job of being conservative and holding
off until that night and going in there and just
killing bucks man, which then led to come home and
then I headed to on a public on a on

(53:06):
a cold front. I headed to Illinois to hunt some
public land, and Eric's home state. You probably loved seeing
this video.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Yeah, I was hunting that same cold front.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
I remember, yeah, yeah, And I remember Case always talks
about how it hit in Texas before it hit there.
That's right, because it's kind of sweeping west.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Jack were up there.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
And I was here as in the Brookshi's parking lot.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
It just hits like twelve pm and I was freezing
here and You're like, man, I was talking to the
phone and you're like, man, I'm not really fired up,
and I was like, dude, it's about to be awesome.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
It was because it's like eighty degrees where you were.
It was like fifty five here.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Yeah, yeah, And sure enough, like I think it started
hitting about the time y'all got.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
To the woods, right well, yeah, and we didn't even
hunt the first morning. We went around and marked agg
and what was what, what was beans? What was corn?
Because I had a plan, but I knew that that
cold front was supposed to come in and that if
that happened, I would have the wind I needed for
where we'd had a trail camera. When I went in
and checked that trail camera that evening as the cold
front had come in, there was a giant on there,

(54:11):
and I was like, oh my goodness. So we scramble
up a tree and so honestly, that camera's on a scrape,
so I'm basically hunting the scrape and some of the
entrance trails. Scramble up a tree and it wasn't an
hour and a half probably, and I had had Jack
set up. The way I had to set us up
in the tree was so that he would be able
to see the deer coming from behind me. So I
told him, hey, keep an eye. Well he sees the deer,

(54:32):
who knows how quickly he saw him or how early
on he had seen him. But I knew they were
coming before he saw him, because I heard a snort, wheeze,
and I saw a little buck that we had had
hanging around looking back that way, and long story short,
big deer comes in and you know, we had some miscommunication.

(54:55):
He caught me kind of trying to see him essentially,
and and when he ran out, the big the big
buck I shot, which was also another really big buck
just a little bit smaller, uh, came around and stood
right where he was he had vacated, and I shot
him at eight yards and the camera wasn't uh or
the camera wasn't on the deer, so because he Jack

(55:19):
thought we had spooked everything at that moment. So it's uh,
there's everything else is on video except for shot. It's
really cool, man, it's a cool video. But it is
potentially my biggest state point ever shot. I mean, he's
absolute giant. And that was a great night, dude. I
remember staying up till like twelve thirty, which is late
for me. It's in the hotel room just on Instagram,

(55:40):
just like cruising, just been like so hyph still that
I couldn't even sleep, you know. And then we came
back and it's more Texas hunting. You killed a giant
Texas public land buck, you and you almost killed a
big deer that pigs and another deer messed up.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Yeah, it was. It was ridiculous. I mean, that was
a great hunt. It was a good time. We had
some pretty good weather too. It wasn't super cold, but
it was like the per Simmons were a big thing.
There was a lot of deer around per Simmons, and
so we kind of targeted that. And yeah, I almost
made the most of it, and you did.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Well, that may be the biggest Texas public lander. I
e rehoot Man. Yeah, I mean, he's toad. We went
back to Kansas hunted some kind of I think mid
November stuff, early November stuff. You almost got stepped on again.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
And then I was.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Even closer to getting stepped on that time, I think,
yeah for sure. And then and then I was, oh,
this is this is twenty twenty, So yeah, I was.
I had I had found out about the ranch buck
somewhere a little after when I came home basically and
was in Texas. Yeah. So we hunted probably Kansas.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Right there through like the.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Tenth or eighth or something. And then I oh, we
left early because I had COVID. Oh yeah, we both
got sick.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Yeah. Yeah, And then you.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Went on and found about Rnchbuck and I didn't know
I had COVID. I was just I was just sweating
and feverish at night and we weren't seeing ithing. It
was hot, so we decided to go home, and on
the way home, we're eating some water burger and I'm like,
these are these fries?

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Don't have any salt on them? And then it kind
of hit us both.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
We're like, well, you might have COVID, because apparently you
can't taste nothing when you have COVID, and I sure
enough did, and so I got diagnosed with COVID. Started
the Ranch series because the Ranch Buck Series because I
had seen that buck when I got back and couldn't
do a whole lot beside just ride around the truck
and hunt a little bit, and that ends up coming

(57:45):
out later on the channel. Yeah, but late November, while
I was hunting the ranch.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Buck, you couldn't leave. Yeah, So I went up by
myself and tried a new piece of public I've never
been to before and hocked in like was it one
point one mind? I think something like that, and did
a self film hanging hunt and shot. Well, it still
is one of the biggest bucks in my life. I mean,
that buck will probably always have a premiere place in

(58:14):
my home because it was just as the first mountain
deer at Mounting, I can't say mountain, it means a
different thing. The first deer that I would mount that
i'd ever shot, and of course it was wild. The
recovery was weird. I had to leave him overnight. I

(58:35):
had my tire slashed when I got back to the
truck by another I guess jealous hunter or landowner or something.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
I don't know what it was, but and ended up
finding the.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Deer, and I had talked myself into the fact that
I wasn't going to find him, and we did find him.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
And when you found the deer, it's one of the
most epic moments. Yeah, I mean it's out rageous because
and that's what we're talking about earlier, is at you
leave twenty nineteen with the bad taste in your mouth
and I don't know if I want to bow hunt
kind of thing, and you know, here we are. We
kind of get through the rut and it's just like, oh,
this is scary, and oh yeah this is November twenty third,

(59:16):
I believe twenty third.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Yeah, so like you feel like the root's over.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Yeah, you're like you're not gonna kill like I missed
out again, and then I've grown a deer in from
one hundred and eighty yards. Yeah, shooting and smoking, and
so when you find this deer, it's like a relief
that probably a release, a relief of several years, like
questioning you yourself and stuff, right, yeah, and just struggles
with bow hunting man, and it's all part of our

(59:42):
walk man in our path and what we were you know,
I have and.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
I on the way home what you came up because
I killed this deer to help me with recovery and
pictures and stuff.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
And then we left at the same time too.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
I'm pretty sure you were there for like seventeen hours
or something. It is kind of real. I appreciate that
I drove.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I drove like sixteen I don't know, I drove a
bunch of hours in a twenty four hour window or
something like that. But we were like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
We were just talking on the phone in two different trucks,
like you know, and I can remember talking about like, man,
maybe we can't do this thing, you know, like it's
like a little bit of a turning point for me
that we actually can film our hunts and maybe do
this legitimately as opposed to just being some guys on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Huge is a huge moment.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Yeah, one hundred hits our channel about this time, ye,
which y'all know, hundred Dickens He's he's been on the
channel quite a bit. Uh, there's Chong we were talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
It was one of the first first kind of helpers
we had, you know, and still helps us out.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
To Chris Webb is also on our channel about this
time the first time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
And then let's see TK kitchen is a bass. There's
Eric's first film job. Talk about that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Eric. Greg was there too. I wasn't there for the hunt,
but I was. I was in town, I guess. Yeah, Yeah,
that was the.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
First time I ever met you guys. Yeah, Icemageddon. Yeah,
I remember pulling up. Well, first off, I drove like
late at night and got a hotel, and I remember
like the whole drive it was just like raining cats
and dogs, and I was like, man, I don't know
I'm gonna make it because like I could barely see
the interstate.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
I forgot that you drove because I was sitting here like, man,
I don't remember picking you up from the airport.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Yeah, the next morning I met you guys at a
gas station and everything was iced over.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Then I remember meeting you at a gas station. Yeah,
there's a there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
We had a like a interesting crew because Sam Hogan
came down with a buddy and we were putting on
like a live event and that was pretty successful.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
I don't know, it was probably more it was gonna
be more successful, but the ice storm, yeah, canceled a
lot of people's trip. But yeah, I went out like
the next day and filmed you shoot four hogs.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
That was pretty sick. Yeah, yeah at one time, and
uh saw me film me fall in the water too,
I think, Yeah, I forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
These are still some of my favorite videos. We ran
a trot line with your dad and Brennan Rohades, one
of your best friends, and uh, it was just there's
just some gold in there. Just y'all talking about raising
box tortoises and you dropped your keys throwing a cast
net and they went in about five ft of lake
water and uh, yeah, up finding him after like twenty

(01:03:01):
minutes of searching. Yeah, I just got barefooted in the
waters trying to fur Dad got in for all of
sixty seconds before you had them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
I was like, man, if he could just find those
real quick, I don't have to get in there either. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
So uh anyway, oh, speaking a hunter, he and I
went to Cabo. I went for my ten year in
Girosary with my wife and he took his wife down
there too, and we fished. Caught his first marlin on
the Element YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
That's Steve Ronilla's first appearance on the Element channel right here,
no down below here right there?

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Yeah, sure enough, man, good job man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
His brother's on here all the time all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Yea, here is Eric's hometown. Ye yeah. Record more map
Scout Challenge stuff that we were doing. And that was
a fun year, man, Yeah it was. We did a
lot of cool stuff map Scout Challenge that year. Found mushrooms, dude,
those were those were some some days of Sylvania. One's cool.
It is cool, dude, old black Barren camera.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Well she had more views, but you know whatever. And
then let's see that that again. Map Scout Challenge puts
us in twenty twenty one season.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
But there's us into it Nebraska twenty twenty one season
right there. That's yeah, that was an epic trip. Yeah,
that was the first year you went to Nebraska, but
Eric wasn't there for that. He too, man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
We tried to get to come down. Listen, guys, we
were all broke, okay, and we wanted Eric to come down,
and I think he had to watch the Cardinals or something.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
That paying him. We weren't paying us. He's going to
be an intern that year, and He's like, Hey, I'm
going to stay and then I'm going to join you
for October.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
And then we were like, okay, well it'll be fine.
We've been self filling our whole lives pretty much. And uh,
we had gotten a little healthy year before, but only
for a short part of the season. And so Eric,
you know, had decided to spend the season with us,
but kind of opted out of this. And we were like, whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
It's going to be a tough hunt, man, even just
not through this together last minute. But this may have
developed like within the months, yeah, you know, like in
August I might have because I was having a talk
you into going to Nebraska.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Oh for sure. I've been two years in a row
and seeing tons of deer and been all over the
state trying to find them and just not found it anything.
I couldn't find big Bucks that was the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
So uh, and it's usually really hot and terrible and
in all this we do, yeah, and we do some
we do. We go try another area and that was
really hot and terrible too, And it was we actually
stormed on. I have a cool time lapse on my
phone from the storm rolling in. We should post that, man, Yeah,
it would be cool. And like one of the worst

(01:05:40):
nights of sleep I ever had. We were in a
tent and it rained so hard that we had to
get in the truck.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
It blew so hard that I for sure thought we
were in a tornado. I was like questioning, how close
is this tornado to us? We were so wet, and
then every time a drop would hit, like the above
your head, the sprints would come off of it and
just blast your face. It was a relief for the
sun to come up. Yeah, for sure it could be over.

(01:06:08):
And I mean, and that's a cool video. We kind
of did the same thing where we kind of compacted
the whole trip into that video. It's really high quality footage.
We worked really hard at that year, and we didn't
have Eric and the only it wasn't a big deal
until I shot the buck and he was out of
frame when I shot him, but I was really able
to get him leaving pretty well. I had a good

(01:06:29):
follow on that buck.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
That was the fastest year of ever.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Oh oh god, my goodness. If you haven't seen it,
it's called open Weekend Hunting Public in Nebraska, Big Buck
at three yards and dude, it's it's a cool video.
It's worth watching. It was a channel builder, you know.
So then the year before twenty twenty was the ranch
Buck Year, and I end up killing that year in
the last day of November, and so we did a

(01:06:55):
ten part series where we released all the videos of that,
like all these sections of the entire ranch Buck full film,
and led up to a release of the full film
that included the last ten or fifteen minutes probably where
I actually, you know, have the last encounter where I

(01:07:17):
do finally kill the deer. And whenever we released that
full film, it did really well early on and it
has not stopped. It's at one point two million views,
still the most successful Wattael film on our channel. And
so that was that's a big deal because I maxed
every thing out that I could to get this property

(01:07:40):
so that I could live on it, but also because
it had big deer because I had a place to
live that it wouldn't have maxed me out at the time,
and we were fixing a build and we end up,
you know, coming over here because I knew there was
big deer back over here and I could maybe you know,
shoot one and lo and behold. It ends up paying
off in a big way. Certainly blessed through that man
big time. So and then talk about that falling up yeah,

(01:08:03):
like I don't know, probably a couple of weeks later,
we released a video of a deer I killed after
that buck in twenty twenty and later December when I
went back up to Kansas and killed a public land
buck and also had a run in with a guy
who threatened me that I couldn't be hunting there and

(01:08:24):
so weird deal man we talked about it on the podcast,
but he was he was. He's scary. I had like
I was in my dad's truck and I had to
I had to. I got the nine out of the
center console when I knew this guy was gonna drive
by me because I had seen him start his truck

(01:08:44):
up and everything, and I saw him check my dad's
truck out before I got back to the truck. I
was actually walking up heard the truck coming down the road,
so I backed off into the woods and saw him
pull up to my dad's truck for like two minutes
and do something. And I thought each tried the handle
on the door. It sounded like but I think I'm
not sure if he did or not. But anyway, he

(01:09:08):
like pulled off and like waited for me and turned
the engine off. So I was like creeped out, thinking
he had a thermal. He was gonna try to kill
me out in the middle of nowhere, you know, or something.
So I ran up, left all my stuff and ran
up to the truck, got in the truck. He turns
this truck on and starts coming after me, and I'm
turning around to go the direction I need to go,
and I'm trying to get the nine out because I'm like,

(01:09:28):
this guy is really acting creepy right now we are
out here, and he ends up telling me, you know,
I can't you can't out here. I better not ever
see you again. And I said, well, why can't I
it's public land, and then he was just like I said,
I never better never see you again or something takes off.
We had a podcast about it several years ago. When
it happened twenty twenty anyway, that that video, I had

(01:09:51):
to get my dad. I called my dad to come
help me recover the deer because I was I was
dagg I'm scared to go back in there, you know.
But yeah, that video release and it's one of our
most popular white Tail videos ever too, over five hundred
thousand views. Definitely a channel builder and just some days, man,
you walk out with a camera and everything comes together, man,

(01:10:12):
And that was one of those days for sure. And
then twenty twenty one, we had our buddy old Chadwick
rise from Cruisers Saddles meet us in South Dakota and
we had a big old crew. We camped and shot
some bucks case we did and didn't make the best
videos ever. Funny enough, we shot a bunch of deer

(01:10:32):
and then we ended up making one really good video
we were You know, this is about our journey in YouTube, right,
It's what this podcast is about.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
And this South Dakota trip is a big deal for
that because we worked hard all summer trying to figure
out YouTube analytics and understand how that works. And we're like,
we're gonna build the most retentive video, it means like
people watching your whole video, right, the most retentive videos
we can. So we made a what's one, two, three, eight,

(01:10:59):
ten videos from a South Dakota trip where three bucks
die and they probably averaged like eleven or twelve minutes,
and the retention is great on them, but the views
are low because YouTube YouTube just doesn't show you just
what you want to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
They show you what they think you want to watch. Yeah,
and so like it just didn't get shown to people.
Guess what when we went and put them all together
and made a fifty five minute video, a bunch of
people watching such people want So it's just weird. And
that's the thing that you know, since we're talking about YouTube. YouTube,
it's a struggle because you know, for one, they don't
love hunting, you know, they put up with it. But

(01:11:37):
for another, I mean, you could you could have a
you know, how to hang a tree stand video it
does really well that's eight minutes long, or you know,
or an eight minute deer hunting video that doesn't get
very many views, or you could put out an hour
video of hunting that has a lot of views in
an hour video of hanging a tree stand or something
that doesn't have very may views. So it's it's really hard,

(01:11:58):
it's unpredictable, and that's why it's meant a lot to
us to get to a hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Thousand, not to go too fast past this. Eric filmed
his first year getting shot. That's right, really good footage too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Yeah, it was actually perfect, that's perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
He filmed Tyler's shooting a ten point and filmed me
shooting at eight point, and it got better.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
And Eric came into this thing knowing some camera stuff,
like you had been filming and building the channel for
a little bit, so it wasn't that you didn't know,
but we put you on a different camera platform, and
I mean it's just yeah, oh he's still got to
film it and it goes home after this, it seems
did he yeah, because he's not there for that East

(01:12:42):
Texas hunting.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Oh yeah, maybe yeah he didn't. He wouldn't fully commuted.
But aitherway, Eric. The reason I'll point that out is that,
you know, if we're being objective here and this is
a long win the past, Eric did not film your
dear very good at all, and the mind's out of focus.
But we're I'm trying to progress to what is coming up.

(01:13:07):
I kill my biggest buck at the time ever on
public land that he filmed as good as he possibly
could have, and it was really really cool. But like
you just couldn't get the shot on film very good
because it happened so fast. But you did a really
good one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
You can see the shot, you can see his handlers,
you just can't see the impact.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
It all happens real fast, right, but like you can
see Eric's progression for how he's getting better and understanding things,
and then that pushes forward to probably one of the
most famous archery shots on a white tail ever. I
would say, I can't believe, dude, the millions have used
this as garnered from our channel and spam channels is ridiculous.

(01:13:50):
I got it figured out by man.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
This is the eighteen buck, eighteen point buck on public
land that I shot at fifty yards. Eric nailed it,
and I'll give you the tip of how we did it,
how we nailed the focus there. As I said, he's
at fifty yards or whatever. And it's like the only
reason I know that is because I can't. I'm not
going to risk ranging him and speak and peeking up
above the grass. So I ranged a yucca plant out

(01:14:13):
to the right of him, maybe twenty yards fifteen yards maybe,
and I said, He's like, that's that's the distance. So
I was like, focus on that yucca plant, and he did,
and he nailed the focus on the ucca plant, which
when we came up then henceforth he's nailed focus. Four
K footage slow mo. It's like we had we'd also

(01:14:34):
sold out to buying a new camera because we wanted
to be able to produce four K footage in super
slow mo shots because that was just cool, you know
what I mean for us, and I thought people would
enjoy watching it. You know. Another thing I'd mentioned is
Eric is living with me this whole time, so like
I have two kids and a wife, and Eric is
living in our upstairs like storage space.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Pretty much.

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
This is when white tail bombs like really starts, right,
you were bumming, you guys started it really.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Yeah, And you know, so we do that then and
we have those encounters. Then I had decided I was
gonna hunt some white tails in Colorado that summer, and
so I had done a lot of research, got the tag,
and went to doing some some Colorado whitetel hunting. It
was very tough and I have not done it since,

(01:15:23):
but we had three videos come out from that series
that were I would say, did a good thing for
our channel. Killed a buck, and I think I could
have killed a much bigger buck, but we just had
a couple of things that didn't go our way until
all of a sudden it was just like, yeah, here's
one that's he's a pretty good buck and it's the
last morning, so let's make this thing happen, you know.

(01:15:44):
And that was in honestly, the cinematography, the video work,
the camera work on this series is some of the
best I think we've ever had. I think, look like,
look at those shots, man, like just we had we
had the scenery. Yeah, and Eric did a really good
job nailing it too. He's always had a steady hand.
And you mentioned Anthony earlier. Anthony kind of has like

(01:16:05):
a one liner that you talk about a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Yeah, what is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
It, something along the lines like, if you want to
make beautiful footage, you got to go to beautiful places. Yeah,
you know, and that's it's true, man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
It helps, but you can still have you still got
to close.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
So later after the season, we started to realize here
we go, well, you might want to talk about this first,
I don't know, but we started to realize that pigs, uh,
people like to watch pigs get shy. Aby.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
It kind of changed the trajectory of practically our lives,
but our channel for sure. How we I've lived my
life hunting pigs. I've all hunded my whole life, and
we always kind of thought of them as a nuisance.
I mean, y'all, y'all know this, if you listen to
the podcast. I've killed thousands of pigs between work and play,

(01:16:58):
and we used at shoot them and maybe not get
footage of it, or just like I think we were
annoyed that there was pigs. Yeah, uh, you know, they're
messing up our deer hunt. And then all of a
sudden we start shooting pigs and saying, hey, let's film it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
And then we end up with our first million view
video ever because we filmed a pig hunt because the
ranch Buck had not hit a million at the time,
and this one went super viral and got a million
really quick, and that was our That was our I
mean that and a couple of pig videos that did
well before that, filmed at my house. Uh then we
thought we were gonna be turkey hunters for a little
while and fishing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
We we yeah, we we were both of those. You know.
It wasn't a children channel builder for us.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Bass fishing. I love bass fishing. You do too, We
grow up, grew up doing it. And for some reason,
white till they bow hunters don't love watching bass fishing.
And I mean because we made some really good videos,
a lot with some big bass in them, some.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Good turkey and videos there too. If y'all haven't watched
this stuff, go back and watch it week. We need
to make that which one that what you're hovering?

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Yeah, the bottom of the barrel there?

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
Yeah, that was good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Stand up and shoot you shot a flushing turkey just
like a pheasant.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Just like that, called me in. I had a world
champion behind me on that. We did a lot of
really good offseason videos this year too. I don't want
to spend too much time on them because we kind
of get rolling. But like, uh, some we were getting
into greeve right here. And actually, I don't want to
say like producing good content, but actually putting valuable information
on the internet that actually means something.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
You know, there's some good stuff in here. There's also just.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Entertainment as well. Yeah, but then we kind of get
into the season that Greg and Michael joined us on.
Greg filmed his first well I don't know, is this
your first film hunt the Tennessee. Yeah you didn't. You did.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Never feel me talk about that a little bit because
neither one k C or I was there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Uh it was uh, it was terrible to us. Yeah,
it's fun. We were not seeing any deer.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
And finally we got to hunt a pretty good property
that had like some deer on it and man hunter,
a film hunter shoot a buck on the ground at
like thirty yards and it was pretty shaky.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Yeah, pre shake you out of focus. It got real
shaky after he shot it too. This is where the fist,
the great fist pump was developed right here. Yeah, it's
a left handed fist pump, like fist pump, you know,
like the yeah thing, you know. And then it was
just about that time that Eric and I headed to

(01:19:43):
Colorado to the high country and we hunted, uh, you know,
twelve thousand foot up in the air or whatever in
the mountains, and I would say, uh, several times I
have mentioned that this is not a hunt that I
care to do anytime seeing again, right, but it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Was a big It was a big deal for us, man,
I mean, you shot a nice buck and y'all did it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Like as far as.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Like documenting a whole hunt, I don't know if there's
another one that is done as well. You know, it's
just like the whole thing is captured directly for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
It's done really well, thank you, And the video did
really well for us another channel builder, I think it's
got over four hundred thousand views.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
Looks like, but you know that video is neat, I
think because it is not our standard vain right, like
Dy White tells what our channel is mostly about, and
this is kind of like a there's only Muldier that
dies on our channel. Yeah, and it's high country Mildier hunt.

(01:20:55):
It's not something we even get to do. But it
was well appreciated. There's a sport. We're not there yet.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
We forgot Yeah, it's right, I haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Got sorry, Yeah, at the time, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
That but yeah, that that that deer actually died above
twelve thousand feet so and he you know, was below
me when I shot. So yeah, uh, then this is
a very infamous deal that happened. You have to really
quickly address.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
I drew the wrong tag in Arizona and drew a
count tag and we went and shot one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
I thought it was your first choice.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
It was this and the shot was so good we
just had the censor. That's right, Yeah, Greg, Greg, he
would be a good Bigfoot documentary. And at this point,
the lot of Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
So the year before, actually we ended the season with
a really cool happening and then we didn't put it
out until you know, September, October or whatever of twenty
twenty two. But talk about that, Casey.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
So this is the A team and this is the
birth of buck Truck. Actually, no excuse me, South Dakota
that year was the birth of buck Truck. But this
kind of like carved it in stone, right. Tyler and
I went to Oklahoma late season pretty much because I

(01:22:15):
still had a tag and I thought we might as
well go hunt because we had some time in our lives.
I guess you had anything better to do. What a
bunch of losers about COVID too. Yeah, we were both sick,
coughing our heads off.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
I had the sweat back about that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
And somehow devised a plan to set up in saddles
within a cattle corral that the deer were drinking water in.
It was bad drought, and I shot probably the oldest
buck I'll ever shoot.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
He's got abscesses in his teeth.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
And all that, and about its smoked as I've ever
smoked a deer, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
And it's funny because the comments on it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
People Tyler and I are set up in separate trees,
like probably like ten yards apart, and so his angle
makes the shot look a lot different than it is.
It's a frontel for me, and I demolished this deer.
It sounds like I see in a tea post through
a watermelon. I mean it is. I love this. I
love this so much. And then the deer just hauls

(01:23:19):
out and tries to break a fence down and doesn't succeed,
and we get it was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
After that, a video from the South Dakota trip released
and it was Hunter's most popular video ever on our
on our channel where he shoots a deer kind of frontel,
has like a really if he shot dramatics. We find
the deer the next day and loses his mind. It
was a really nice buzz South dakoach deer. Yeah, we

(01:23:49):
used to say all the time, right used to yeah,
I always still yeah, occasion the.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Bombs do the thing. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Then Greg killed a deer on our channel right here.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
So yeah, your first book killing on our channel, the
first killing the channel right there, that's property. And then
why till bums do your thing the.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
This is a year's worth of of happening right here
right to talk about that a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
Yep, that was my first buck ever after six years
trying to shoot one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Yeah, it's uh. And you did it on Texas Public.
I did, ye.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
You couldn't find it easier to deer to kill than
the Texas Public came all the way down to Texas
to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
Yeah, killed it, dere and I wouldn't And I killed
deer later that day. Yeah, and wouldn't have killed it
if Eric hadn't have killed his that morning because we
did the cameraman.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Because we did the cameraman, shofs were filming me that morning,
and then I guess Michael Michael filmed Tyler.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
But he was hunting too, got poisons. Yes, that's where
Spike Mike was.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Now he filmed you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
That morning, and y'all were like a big when you
were gonna shoot Michael, Uh skinned the spike, yeah, spike
yeah h and he did, wouldn't let us put down
the channel. That's where the nickname Spike comes from. Yeah,
he shot shot a spike and cut cut the hair
off the top of him.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
I look at you boys, killing two public lands, almost
killed three public land bucks and the same day on
Texas public it was an amazing day.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
And then that was in December, right early December.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Yeah, and then you kill you didn't kill dere but
that deer with this gets its eye pecked by birth.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
Yeah, that was what you might want to remember, that
deer for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
And then the infamous uh ten second flash transition in
the Axis Deer. As these guys come on and start
working with us, they learned new skills and it's a
we put them through like some quick learning curves on
some things. And uh, this was Michael's first video to

(01:25:54):
edit himself, I believe. And uh, that Axis video kind
of had a couple funny things happening that we look
back now and laugh at. And then this here Red
Pig video is like some of the cooler pick footage.
We have another million view video that we have. It's
pretty awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
But also doing all the stuff this is you know
buck truck was being filmed.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Yeah, we didn't talk about. Yeah, that's why that season
seems so short. That's right, Well, well we have a
buck truck video.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Uh, further up, let's just do all the buck truck
talk then.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Does that sound good?

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Yeah, this is why the season seems short.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
That turkey hunt right there of Tyler's in Missouri, that
part biggest trout of his life in Missouri. And some
crowd Yeah, random creek.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
We killed a giant gobbler that gave us a show
and it was my first Eastern Yeah, thanks to Adam
Heath and Landing Legacy. And then there's our most viewed
video ever, most viewed video ever that's barely nick a

(01:27:02):
big boar pig. And then I smoke one of three
thousand little hogs that came into this gave us a show, man.
I mean, I don't know, it's it is just uh,
it's just a good hunting video.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Yeah, you know, there's not a lot to it. It's
nothing super crazy, but it's just it is cool and
it felt good at rip that little pig.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
In eight months, it has amassed three point four million views. Insane,
not really slowing down too much. Yeah, and then, uh,
this brings us to this season. Man, this is twenty
twenty twenty three, right, and uh, we did our first
prong wore hunting. Did we did our first prong wo
on hunting. This is a abountain near the anniversary of

(01:27:42):
Greg and Michael joining the Element right now. Yeah, they'reing
this this antelope hunt and we learned real quick that
we need rifles for these things. Greg kills a spork.
Can you clarify what spork is?

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
Spork is a bike and a fork, so he's.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Got three.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Kind of like a buppoon. The butt Truck released on
the Element channel here though it doesn't have a ton
of views, but it's got a whole lot of views
on the Media YouTube channel. And as if you've been
following us, you know that we now put content on
the Media channel as well. And it kind of forced
us to take our twenty two season and.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Send a lot of it elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
But it's it was worth doing for us, and I'm
glad we did it because it helped us grow tremendously.
And within that let's see one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven eight bucks died on Buck Truck. It was seven episodes, yep, right,
And it was the most chaotic and probably funnest year

(01:28:54):
of my life as far as hunting goes, because we
we had a unique thing where Tyler and I committed
to being together pretty much the whole deer season instead
of like going different directions and trying to optimize what
we're doing. And you know, Tyler selflessly had some situations

(01:29:17):
where that kind of impaired his season because I take
a long time to kill things sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
But the whole buck Truck.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
The twenty two season opened with an infamous Nebraska double,
which was bad at the bone man that was that
was a fun, fun night. I struggled chasing around on
the ground, and then you and I decided to team
up hot a long waist back in somewhere and getting
a tree, and I made one of the best shots

(01:29:48):
ever made on a deer that was like a poke.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
How far was that forty six yard? Yeah? It was
out there and I just didn't even think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
I was like, oh, I just ranged it, diald and
shot and smoked it sound watched him fall. The blood
is great, and then we're like kind of having a
party in early so I'm like, man, Tyler could shoot
one too, you know, kind of like joking around, and
sure enough, Greg and I here and then what was

(01:30:17):
going on in your trip? Because we were set up
eighty yards from one another.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Yeah, we were basically on kind of opposite sides of
a transition essentially, and we had had a little bachelor
group of three bucks come in and get real close,
and I knew that the trail that was crossing the
fence was like, if they got to about the fence crossing,
they were probably gonna smell us, but I could shoot

(01:30:41):
them before then. Well, these deer kind of get they
smell us, and then they're kind of being early season
young dummy bucks and they kind of walk to us
and then they freak out and leave. And it wasn't
like ten minutes later, probably, and I hear something walking
back in the cedars and I look, I tell I
told Michael, you know, hey, I hear something walking, get

(01:31:03):
my bow in my hand. I'm looking and I see
him coming through and all I can see is legs
and belly, and I knew immediately it was a shooter
because the belly was so big and just a small butt,
you know, and he comes out and it's one of
the bigger, you know, public land bucks I've shot. There
is he's on the wall now yeah, and it's just
a big old Nebraska nine point comes out and he

(01:31:25):
just like I draw back pretty early on. Michael said,
I'm on him. I was like, wow, this is cool.
We're ready to go. And I was like, I'm just
gonna let him see if he'll stop instead of grunt stopping,
because I had a long ways before he got to
my wind, like he probably had to walk twenty five
yards be quiet, and it was quiet, yes, So I
did not grunt stop him. And he walks like halfway
to my wind and just stops broadside and looks straightforward

(01:31:48):
in twenty eight yard shot put it. It's probably might
be the best shot I've ever made, he smoked. As
far as just being on the money, I guess the
you know, it'd be hard the heart shot, but like
this this is this is right there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
So that was awesome. Also in buck truck. The next
place was top of South Dakota. Tyler had some unfortunate
events unfold with a really big buck that he uh
shot and didn't recover. I ended up shooting quality eight
point after a really difficult week. It was super dry

(01:32:24):
and hot, and we finally had a cold front, went it,
set up and smoked him. That was awesome. Then we
went to Illinois. We thought it was gonna be the
slam dunk. This is weird, Candy Kitski, I don't know
which one of us is Candy, which one's Don, but

(01:32:46):
we are you know, how about Don and Lee? That
makes more sense, right, But it was not. In fact,
we'd gone up done some scout on this place. It's
like over a thousand acres of private like with corn
and beans on it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
This is gonna be awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
And it was probably as far as white tail encounters,
one of the worst.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
Times in my life now. I think nationwide a lot
of people struggled that week too, so I think it
could have been better.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
It was. I mean, it was fun because we have
fun doing everything we do right, but it was super difficult.
And finally on the last evening we're getting close enough
to November dates. I think essentially that we both have
some daylight encounters and I end up getting to shoot
a really great I'd call him an eight point. He
kind of has tiny, little crab bump things on the

(01:33:35):
end of his antlers. But it was a dramatic thing,
the bucks splashing around the water going wild, and I
was super thankful to kill the deer. And then we
drove home and stayed home for like eighteen hours and
went to Kansas.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
Yeah that was talk about some quick turnarounds that we
had that season.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
Yeah, we did it. It was a rough season, man,
And but you went in and hunted a stand on
the first evening that had had zero humans there probably
in what three months? Yeah? Easy.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
I mean I didn't know what was coming in or nothing.
And in ninety minutes we have a nice one hundred
and twenty inch buck coming in and as he's leaving,
a shooter comes in and smoked it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
Smoked it. There he is in the wall. I like
this squen, look at him on the thumbnails on the wall.
And then another time, whenever Tyler has things happen early,
and then he has to wait on me to kill stuff.
I struggle, and then we make phone calls and call
somebody and get permission to go hunt this piece of
private I get like deafinitely sick that night with a

(01:34:49):
stomach bug. Spend most of the night awake sick, and
then somehow muster the ability to go hunt that next
morning and then rattle in a deer from like four
hundred and fifty yards away that ends up being one
of the biggest deer in my life. Whitest buck ever,
whitest buck ever. I don't know if I ever shoot
one over twenty inches twenty one inches wide again, I mean,

(01:35:10):
it's it's a pretty hard thing to do. And just
you know, that was just the best moment of my
season for sure that year. But then from there we
went to Oklahoma and had some really hot weather, but
I had some inside info on some trail camera data
and a place that I had scouted before and felt

(01:35:31):
really good about, and then went in and also shot
one of the biggest a points I'll probably ever shoot.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
On public lan on public land, and I almost killed
one on public land. You did.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
We both had a good morning. Then ugly I was mad.
And then that was the last buck that you or
I shot on buck truck. You shot a doe in
Arkansas with clay. That was a big deal because that
was hard hunt. Yeah, and then I also missed a
buck on that trip. Yeah, we saw another big one too. Yeah, Yeah,

(01:36:07):
you had a much better hunt than than I did
on that that hunt. It was just I think you
spent a little more time on the ground than I
did and it made a difference. But then we went
and hunted some ground in Texas and neither of us killed,
nor did Mark Kenyon, but Greg shot him one Greg

(01:36:30):
Gregor and the creek shot him one down there and
that finished out our butt truck series. So what did
go to us?

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
So then we came back to twenty twenty three, the
just real recent years here. Yeah, we started out in Nebraska,
and you know there's a lot of things that hadn't
hit the channel yet too from twenty twenty three or
might go on the mediater channel, So we won't talk
about them because they haven't built our channel yet.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
But we'll just go through what's on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
This is uh this. We had an awesome hunt Nebraska,
and I got to put my buck on our channel,
which I'm happy about. Shot an awesome big buck out
of a haybill blind Nebraska, missed him on the first
shot and had to shoot him at sixty on the
walk and made probably maybe maybe that one was the
best shot of my life.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
What else is in that video Eric two does getting smoked.
Eric shot two dos in like a minute and a
half one another, right, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
Smoked him. That footage is good.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
To film that I was filming.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Somebody else shoot it those at that time. Then time
was ticking, time was ticking.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
Well, the rest of us had a real difficult time
in South Dakota. Tyler's Tyler killed near South Cota. It's
on the media channel the uh. Then we go home
to Texas and Tyler had some inside information on some
public ground and apparently has something figured out there, because
remember we talked about getting pecked in the eye.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
I pecked buck down. Yeah, I picked him with a bow.
Yeah yeah really, you know, like I don't know. He
has a really awesome frame, but just a little bit
smaller bodied deer than the one I shot in twenty man.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
Yeah. Well they all all they have to eat is
like pine needles and dirt and stuff around here and
bottles that flow down the creeks. You know, like it's
just nothing good. Yeah. So and then Hunter Dickens also
killed the East Texas the same night. Doubled up. That
was an awesome, awesome deal.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
We were actually able to go drive over to him
and help him out and help him with recovery and stuff.
So that was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
Spine spikeel Me, Me and Michael went back to uh,
South Dakota because we had a tough go around the
first time and tried to like really capitalize on a
super late cold front in October and I ended up
shooting like a really great buck in South Dakota.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
I feel like within a year, so this thing's gonna
this video is gonna be one of the top couple.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
I mean, this video is very successful. It also we
are talking about shorts at all, but like you know,
the short for this video has generated a whole lot
of traction. I'm super thankful for that deer. It was
the most dramatic hunt of my life. I don't ever
care to go through what it took to actually go
from the first era released to put my hands on

(01:39:24):
this deer ever again. But it happened, We documented it,
and it's out there for the world to see. And
it's not that I have anything like to be ashamed of.
It was just a difficult thing, but I'm thankful for it, sure,
And it's you know, in the past year of what
got to make it to the Element Channel. It's it's
done really good on the channel, So I'm glad that

(01:39:45):
we were able to do that. And then Hunter Dickens
again shot the widest deer that's ever existed on public
land in Texas. It's not inside of a fence, even
though some people think it is, and Hunter is not
a wizard, even though he looks like I took his
little tip off that hat. I think, Yeah, I made
it a little lass point. What if you if you

(01:40:10):
hover over it with your mouth. The video plays for
like three seconds and he has got the tallest orange hair.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
You're supposed to.

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
Frame that, yeah, for real?

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
So you're cutting that off for sure?

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
Greg, you tend to kill deer. I've killed a couple. Yeah,
you killed one there on on your family property, right.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
Yeah, that's that's probably the fair My favorite video self
filmed so far.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
And what about the one that hasn't released yet? It
might be once to release. Pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
Hey, this hog video here is actually doing pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:40:43):
Yeah yeah, Uh, Tyler and I kind of really struggled
to do something we thought we were decent at, and
that's to kill pigs, and then we end.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
Up shooting like the fattest Oh a couple of pigs.
They're sitting in my freezer right now, and we're gonna
make all kinds of good stuff. We got a I
got a whole pig head in my freezer that's gonna
make Barbara CooA. We got fat galore off these sayings
we got, I mean, it's good, it's good food. And
then that kind of rounds out our channel.

Speaker 1 (01:41:10):
We have a couple of recent videos. There's a good
video of a breakdown of our camp set up when
we travel, and then uh the one that I mentioned
earlier of us cannon venishon venison and a pressure cooker.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
It's kind of a neat thing.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
And guys, if you haven't subscribed to the Element channel,
you're missing out.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
I don't know why you listen to this podcast if.

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
You haven't subscribed on YouTube unless you don't have a
YouTube account, which I understand. But I'm thankful for the
past seven plus years we've been doing this thing and
the footage that we've been able to accumulate and.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
Put out there for the world.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
Thank y'all for watching it, Thank y'all here in the
room for the help and making this thing happen. And
uh man a lot of great memories preserved here on
the YouTube channel. And I think you talk about this
a lot, right, Like you like to go back and watch.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
This stuff a whole lot, because.

Speaker 1 (01:41:59):
I don't know, it's it's hard to remember some of
the really awesome stuff that happened, and then you watch
you're like, oh man, I'm glad we have that kind
of reserve. You just forget the cool things that happened
and stuff, and forget what you used to look like
back before you had kids and your tired all the time.
You know, God, I need your shave just to look
a little younger. Yeah, well, guys, remember that to cherished

(01:42:21):
the good time is remember this is your element.

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