E328: Turkey Talking with Michael Stoll, Is Buck Truck Coming Back?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, I'm Tyler and I'm and you're listening to the
Element podcast. We have a turndown seat. It is but
now it's it's it's more now, but I mean like
the uh I think we're just Yeah, I'll never get

(00:23):
used to that. What's going on in my woods? People
were sitting here on the numbrids got arture mark couch goodness,
and uh Michael is actually sitting in a primo uh
old school Wetlands chair there. This chair is sick. It
is sick. I don't remember where I got that, but uh,

(00:43):
I was like for sure taking that thing. I think
somebody gave it to me when we first got married.
It's a nice little chair. Not first like Camo, but
we are brought to you by first like Cameo. They
should have waterfol Camo.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
You're yeah, it's called h It's actually multier camo.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
That's what it was for us. It's called Taifa. I
tried to be the first person to shoot one and
uh that taipha a mule deer, and I was told
that I might not have been.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, well you're first in my heart.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Well, they like to make sure that you don't feel
too special, you know what I mean, but it works
really well.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, I kind of like almost the grasslands camo really
m h which is weird, you know, because it's almost
like grasslands breed wildlife.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Just you know, it's right.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
If you want to find you some deer, go where
the ducks are, that's right, And those are on our
truck cameras.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
You that I would duck.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, there's a couple of them, a couple blue herons.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
That's how you know we've had too much rain.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
We have a multi mobile camera set up over a
hog feeder, and wouldn't you know there are no hogs
there because it's.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Just it's the six rainiest year in history.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
You said that this morning. Is that the truth? That's
what I've heard. Yeah, I don't know if I'm true,
but I've heard that. I didn't realize. I guess it's
probably uh by inches because I feel like it's not
like more rainy as far as weather goes than any
other spring.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Oh no, dude. It's been like cloudy every day, and
yeah it rained yesterday. It wasn't supposed to rain.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
But I think that, But I think it's it's like
coming little rainfall like inches.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I'm sure we're getting but you know, you've been turkey
hunting so much. You know, I don't know that you
you might have a bad judge on it. Yeah, yeah,
that's right, it's true. I don't know. Man.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
We have been doing a lot of turkey hunting, and
we're gonna talk about some of that today.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
I don't want to. Yeah, we'll talk a little bit, man.
I want to talk to deer hunting. Okay, go, actually
I want to. I just want to hear deer hunting. Oh,
you want to listen to somebody. I'm ready for I'm
ready for some deer deer here. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Well, the media podcast puts that episode every week. They
talk about your hunt everything.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
They don't Mark Kenyon Wired to Hunt Okay, I can
definitely get it from his podcast. I think they were
talking about books last week.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, they kind of this week they got they got
a little, uh joking slap on the wrist of email chain.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Y'all. I'll be making fun, but we're we're not a
turkey podcast, and we've been a turkey podcast for the
last two months. Yeah, it's kind of.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
You know, I don't have a lot to say about turkeys.
I got a lot to Michael, Okay, I'll check you
make it in ten minutes when you're done.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
No, I can't do that.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Okay, let's talk about other things going on.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Are you gonna wear that hat after Turkey season? No?

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Turkey only it might have seen this last hunt. It's
starting to get pretty faded.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's the way. That's when a hat is doing it
is what it's supposed to do. I don't know, man,
that new cash Camo air. It looks real, it looks cool,
but does it actually perform well?

Speaker 3 (03:38):
I feel like when we bottled up in the in
the shade, it's gonna look real good, but it's gonna
look like a sasquatch when you're out, like if you're
moving around.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Which turkey see you anyway? So it probably don't matter exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, I was just wondering about that, Like high is
green versus that dark black, it's hard to be just spectacle.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Our good friend, uh Mitchell Johnson likes to wear some
real green off him and Patrick both. You know, if
they're not wearing bottom lands or something, they're wearing that
like really really like it looks like it's lea.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
What's your favorite cameo pattern of all time?

Speaker 3 (04:13):
This is gonna sound like a placement, but specter's pretty
hard to beat.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Men, dude, there were a couple of times I was
looking back at Nick this week and it was like,
he's covered.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I mean, I would agree with y'all, but I can't
say that's my favorite of all time.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
I mean, his favorite is a vague word. If you
mean like what's cool? No, I mean what's your favorite,
like the best, what's worked the best? No, that would
be what what worked the best?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
You got a favorite? You know whatever? Favorite? Favorite mean?
Favorite wife?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Man, I'm like a biblical character, one favorite wife, you know.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
And.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Rachel right one of them, No, one of them had
what ch'all are saying right now.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, Isaac had to work for seven years and he
was gonna get Hannah, but then he was given Rachel
and she had.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
What's the what's the words?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
It's like, uh yeah, essentially, yeah, she's actually unattractive. And
that's why you don't drink on your wedding night, guys,
because I gotta watch out.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
And then he had to work another seven years to
get Hannah. And that's how we got Joseph and Benjamin
being the favorites of Isaac is because those were his
children with Hannah.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
So all that is Sanna Montana, isn't it. That's the
only favorites I have my wife. No, you can't say that, dude,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I'm serious specters, so that it doesn't sound like I'm
a first light snob.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
The real tree is it hardwoods? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
There's a couple others in there. The real tree with
them leaves on it is all awesome. Yeah, and then
they used to wear a big wooly suit. Yeah, what's
that called? I like the o g real tree too.
It looks like tree bark, but it has like some
greens and browns in it.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Is that is tree bark? Tree bark is different than
real tree?

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Right, I'm just saying it looks like I'm saying that
I can't remember if real tree tree bark was like
the tree bark is its own pattern?

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Right? Is that right? I don't know. I'm looking it up.
Get I'm getting lost. Cameos cool man? Is uh?

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Cipher? I like cipher a whole lot, like a who
looks sick? Did you mean to cross your eyes?

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Was looking up at it? I was trying to check
it out.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
I don't have a far enough focal distance right there,
you know, I can't see it.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Focus called stop. Yeah, like that pink one right there,
that's too high.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Uh, that's all just advantage.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Pretty much extra edge. That looks pretty cool. Tree. I
remember I wore a bunch of that. Yeah, paint the face,
all that stuff, real tree, extra brown. What's that look like? Who?

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Do you have a question for you while you're looking
up this. If a person is gonna paint their face,
what kind of came out?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Do they wear? Black?

Speaker 3 (07:14):
You know, like the kind of person who kind of
person who paints their face, which some of you listening
might be that kind of person.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Dude, face paints cool. I don't know what you say. Man,
I used to wear a face paint. I did too.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
The only reason I wore it was because I was like, man,
I feel cool wearing this.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I never wore.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
And then I started being like, this is dumb. It's
getting all over my clothes and everything.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, gets in your pores and clogs them up. Yeah,
that's just the way I roll. Man floors. I like,
I think I like real Tree extra brown. That is
that a pattern or is it just coming up with
some stuff here? That's what I used to wear in that,
that wooly suit I used to.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
That ain't real tree extra, that's no. Yeah, I look
up real tree hardwoods.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Hold on, should I go upstairs and get it while
y'all talk?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Sure, it'll say it on that. Yeah, Michael, you you
are just younger than us.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Straight up. What was your first cameo you remember wearing?
I have no idea. Did you wear camo?

Speaker 2 (08:08):
I feel like you wore some some military surplus stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Oh for sure I have.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
I still have a bunch of the just like woodland
camo pants.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
The darker Woodland stuff actually looks real good.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
That's what.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
That's what I used to wear all the time, pants wise.
And we did a lot of blind hunting in Ohio,
so it was.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Why you never saw anything just black. Yah. So funny.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Listen, listen. If there is one thing the Stole family is,
it is not blind. Okay, we could see some dude.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I deluted my jeans bad, I got my brother. My
wife not good, she can't see. I think my kids
are okay. Real tree advantage advantage, just regular advantage, that's
what that's probably.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
That'd be a top pattern for me. There you go,
Rick again, I really like it. I think I think
it was it was Wetlands, the original duck pattern that
came out. I really was like that was like Max four.
Maybe you would have been something like that too. That
was like for me, I was duck hunting. I was

(09:14):
into duck hunting at the time probably, and it was like,
oh man, that would be awesome. But then you end
up wearing it on Lake Fork and you look like
it doesn't really look like that a highlighter.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
I believe that this ain't North Dakota down here, brother, No,
you know, sitting in a cornfield, you've been hunting for
seven years.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Oh, I know this is right. I have no idea.
I don't remember, but uh not your whole life.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
You can remember the first piece of hunting camo you
probably bought.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Oh I know this, what was it?

Speaker 6 (09:45):
I think it was real tree the cameo pattern. But
it was just like a farming fleet, like overall skin.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Got just so. It wasn't like a name brand. I
was like overhalls.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah really yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Just like a yeah how about that?

Speaker 6 (10:00):
It was like a thin pair that I could like
wear sweatpants under feet its cold or just like nothing.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Would you wear on top.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
I had a warm jacket, or I wore just a
camo hoodie or something.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I think I had a.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
Brown under armor hoodie. I wore under it a lot.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Oh, because the overalls kind of you had camo on
your core and it's just your arms pretty much.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
It makes sense. Yeah, now it's cool.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
I remember doing that thing too, where I you know,
I was a young man working for myself and didn't
have any money, and so I went to bass Pro
and bought just the thinnest outers I could find because
they were pretty cheap, and then you just layer up
with all the other warm stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
That's whatever underneath it. What made you buy camo?

Speaker 1 (10:50):
That's just what you do. She's what you do. Yeah.
I don't mean that like in a smarter like way either.
She's like, it's what you just.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
If you're raising a hunting family, have camo.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
But I'm just saying, like, hey, what made you go
I want that particular camera?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
It was the cheapest one on the rack at bass
Bro at that time. That's probably what. So I'm thinking.
I can remember this was the year twenty twenty three,
and I had a lot of camera before that. But
like I can remember doing this because I kind of
like repurposed and I.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Was like, oh, I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Go back to get some new stuff.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
It's twenty twenty three, and I think I bought Real
Tree Extra with green and it was just like a
thin set of bibs are mixed up.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Twenty thirteen. I was like, twenty twenty three was last year.
I don't think there was a lot of Spectacay. Did
he do something that I didn't know about? Listen, bro,
you think you know me? You don't.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
If I eat on camera, I'm when I want to,
So you.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Know, you never you never had like a camera that
you wanted that you're like, oh, I can't afford that.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
No, because Sika hadn't really come in popularity.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
They did it first lot. But you went and got
the cheapest camera. Yeah, So there was never you never like,
oh that's pretty sweet over there, but that's one hundred
and ten bucks. I'm not getting it.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
I don't think I thought about it that way. At
least it's the camo. I mean back then the under
armour stuff was like, oh, chree stuff. But I didn't
think about the camo. I was just thinking about the piece,
you know, about the cheapest piece was one of the cheapest.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
King Why did you like the under Armer stuff.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Because Brnan had it and he said he stayed pretty
warm in it.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
That's why so influenced by Brennan. Huh. Yeah, a large
porce of my life, dude, that's why you talk like that. Yeah.
So for me, like the first the first hunting videos,
I mean I watched a bunch of the old Monster Bucks.
That was like some of the first videos I probably
ever watched. But I remember the first videos ever like

(12:44):
bought and really like just loved was Massiak whistling wings
and series of duck hunting. Oh my goodness, dude. I
don't know what kind of corn they were throwing in
them holes, but it was awesome.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
The I can remember decent marketing throughout my life, like
I think, I can remember things that kind of grabbed me,
and I think still some of the best marketing on
cameo ever, outside of putting Tiffany in whatever she wore.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Was Eva shocky.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
No, the uh those ads that Real Tree did where
they'd have like nine dudes.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
It, I don't know how sick still do it. I
still get the ads on Instagram. It's the best. Yeah,
it's so cool. Why does at first I do that?
We should do that? We should do it? Yeah, coming
to the New Years New Year, Sorry near you. Uh
So anyway, I was just thinking about that because it

(13:48):
was like, man, those Whistling Wings videos were like the
reason I probably ever even bought most oak stuff. I mean,
obviously it's affordable and stuff, but like was was a
little bit dark. I all felt like, but it actually
it looked pretty good in like FOURK late season a lot,
you know, so, but I just remember buying that. That's

(14:09):
camo to me is cool. Man. It's like when I
look at some of the old patterns, it brings up
some which you're probably not that way as much, but
Eric probably is. And I am like a little bit nostalgic,
and I just think about when I see those old patterns,
it makes me just feel like being a child again
and going out and hunting, you know what I mean.
And it's kind of it's kind of cool to think

(14:30):
about it. I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
What the first pattern I ever wore was really, but
it wasn't military surplus stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
I don't really have that around. My dad did too.
He My dad had a bunch of cheap cameo.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
He bought it like garage sales and st I was
just wearing my dad's old stuff pretty much.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
You know.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
I'll bet you I didn't wear camo for a long
time because I didn't grow up bow hunting, you know,
at least for the earlier part of it. So what
I probably just wore coveralls that were you know, like
black like skiing stuff for whatever, you know. And then
I can kind of remember getting a pair of coveralls
when I was about nine that I think were Camo,

(15:12):
And I can remember too they had that like kind
of stretchy you used to have, you know, that that
toboggan you had in that real tree advantage.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
I had that brown stretchy on side. It had that
around the collar.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Now where did that thing go? Hang? It's upstairs still,
I think it's up there. It might be up deep
down into some stuff there. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
what's the what's the first hunt videos you remember watching?

Speaker 3 (15:39):
The first ones I ever remember watching. I can remember vividly.
It was probably when I was three years old, and
it was Eastman's like giant muledier videos.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
My granddad had tapes of that. They had that stuff
on the lot yeah, pre internet. Oh yeah, dude. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
The Eastman's especially was it is I the old man?

Speaker 1 (16:03):
I can't keep up?

Speaker 3 (16:03):
I think so, and I think like I was a
visionary dude. If that's who he is, well, whoever the
older guy was, you know, it's like or is that
the new one, Mike? Yeah, guy Eastman is one of
those guys. Yeah, but yeah, I mean they were in
you know, southern Wahoming, Central Colorado, all that stuff and

(16:24):
just filming a man no mule.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, Michael, what about you first hunting video? Yeah, like

(16:52):
first stuff you remember watching. I don't know if it
was just the very first stuff, but Real Tree Road
Trips was pretty much man no stole fat it doesn't
get better. And uh, in high school and college for me,
I can remember just binging some real tree road Trips. Man,

(17:12):
that was. That was cool stuff. I've even edited some
of our footage in the past, like just not I'm
talking about like brief five second clips and I'm like, oh,
that'll be just like the real tree road Trips thing,
you know what I mean? What about you, Eric?

Speaker 6 (17:27):
I don't know if I had like a favorite show.
I just remember watching Outdoor Channel when I started but
I remember like getting excited for Buck Commander episodes.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Oh yeah, I watched it.

Speaker 6 (17:38):
Mainly because they had baseball players on there.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Adam Laroch being like, oh that's so cool. Second baseman shooting.
You don't think that anymore? Well, you know, dude, he's
ever gonna come hunting those.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
So I think he will as a as a sports enjoyer,
but not a fanatic. Why is it cool for y'all
to the like someone that you know in a different vertical,
in a different spot.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
I guess you just see him outside of like what
you see him on TV for so got just like
something different.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
I guess got you got you, got you? I got?
The Rogan podcast? Is that it because everybody thought he
was a TV host?

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Now they're like, oh, man, just because people like the
F word, and that's why they know?

Speaker 1 (18:23):
It's because they people actually love conspiracy?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Oh yeah, I mean, for sure, The Forest of Higante,
whatever his name is, and Graham Norton, those are the
popular ones, right.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
I don't know if it's Graham Norton, it's Graham Hancock.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
He's Graham Norton. He's an actor or something, and he's
Graham Hancock's.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Right, Yeah, I don't know any of these people.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Get you something weird. Edward Norton is who I'm thinking of.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
He's a he's a realtor or something. You're not talking
about Edward Snowden, No, he was. He was only remote. Yeah, yeah,
good podcast. Edward Scissors Dans. That's the same person. Actually, yeah, lots.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Of it was your first hunting show you remember watching
Listen Wings was duck Hunder the first?

Speaker 1 (19:13):
I mean I remember watching just the original Monster buck
stuff a lot. You know.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
I did treat a duck hunting kind of like golf
when I was a kid. If it came on the TV,
I took a nap. Oh yeah, just never liked watching it. Yeah,
I like doing it.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
It's kind of for more intelligent people. I know. It's
that's something I've always struggled with.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
I don't know, it's something about watching I just never
because I guess just because you know, if I'm breaking
it down and thinking about it, potentially I enjoy strategy,
and I don't think that strategy is captured very often
in waterfowl media. But maybe it is, and I just
missing out.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I don't think Bill Jorden was having a ton of
strategy either no, it wasn't captured, not they wouldn't have
any but in those in those Monster Buck days, not
just Bill, but I'm saying like, hey on.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Well that's the whole thing with Monster Bucks, is they
take all that out.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, it's just to show you, dude.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
I remember so in high school we used to watch
Monster Bucks a lot, and the fun thing was to
predict the Boone and Crockett score before they put it
on that like.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
What's what we did? You know?

Speaker 3 (20:17):
And we're like, you know, celebrate if you got clothes
or whatever, and I beat you. And then they'd have
some young person on there on a dream hunt or
something and they put a score up for them and
it was like, you know, probably trying to just make
them feel good. And then it makes you kind of
just question everything. It's like, okay, well.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Do I really know what a one fifty eight looks like?
Or is that you know?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Are we patting stats around here, bros?

Speaker 1 (20:41):
You know, I don't know. There's a lot of round
numbers in the waytail world. Yeah, they come out. A
lot of people say one eighty, but not many people
say one eighty one. It's like my dad always used
to say, there's a there's a convenience store up the
road from his fishing lodge there on Lake Fork where
a lot of people get bait and what and it's
been there forever, I mean thirty over thirty years. And

(21:05):
they used to put pictures because they had a certified
scale or whatever. So you come in and weigh your
fish if you caught a big one, and then you
take a polaroid and then you could they would put
it up in the shop. Man, those are good days. Yeah,
well they're still there. I mean they still have them.
They've had them, not necessarily the same ones, but they
put them on up on the walls for years and
years years. And my dad was like, you walk in

(21:25):
here and you see a lot of ten ones. You
don't see many nine point nine eights. I guarantee that,
you know. It's just yeah, whatever whatever, for whatever reason,
uh not many people are willing to meet. They didn't
catch a ten pounder when he was nine to nine something.
It's den yeah, I mean, is it.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
It's got to be within two tenths of an ounce
or something like that right to qualify as a different weight.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I don't know. And nothing, I don't think so I
don't know that. I know that they hate to be
a world record has to beat it by two ounces,
which is I understand why, but they're admitting to margin
of era there.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Yeah, they're also I mean that all stuff gets real weird,
right anyways? Because how much weight can a fish lose
in the thirty minutes it takes to get him dark
or whatever?

Speaker 1 (22:17):
You know.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
I always look at those world record marlins and stuff,
you know, because they have to kill them to what
to weigh them, And I'm thinking, like, how much did
the fish actually weigh live weight?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
It might have lost six pounds of blood or something.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Kind of on the head. I ain't bleeding it out
for sure. Yeah, no way, no way. Yeah, it's cool stuff.
Michael saw world record turkey this week. I don't know
if it was a world record record turkey is a
good question on They still out there running around boys
just roaring like Dino's. I saw a couple network Mondo.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
How would you scale a world record turkey because it's weight.
There's like three things you measure on a turkey.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Maybe you gotta have a world record for.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Each got spurs, you got beard, and you got wigs.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Beard size is the only thing. But I think beards
what everybody goes off of. You don't think there's a
snood measurement in there we're pushing for. We are pushing.
We're advocates of the SNOODE measurement.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, it's uh, the new s c I measurement.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I'm pretty sure I have the BURYMS.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Record with the the Eastern subspecies. That's then, Michael, Yes, sir,
you're up being you grew up. You grew up hunting
the Eastern subspecies. Eric, you have killed Rio grands, right,

(23:44):
Tyler and I have killed.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
You haven't killed the Eastern I know that filmed them though.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
Right, not really he's killed I filmed his.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
His Yeah yeah, yeah, what about in your early days
of filming?

Speaker 6 (23:59):
No, I just film the audio of Easterns back then.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Who filmed the one that died on the HOS channel?
Oh that was Carter.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Guys, let's go, and then you and I now.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Have killed Slams. There we go, baby, let's go. I
have to switch it up.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
This one hurts real bad, guys. Ekma is about to
make my finger fall off, but I need a brazen
serpent to look at it made me feel better.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
If you know, you know so.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I was on a quest to kill my single season slam, which.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna downplay, but I'm gonna
try to be realistic.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
It didn't mean as much to me as.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
It made to some people, but it was gonna be
really cool if it happened.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
I think if you shot a single season slam, I
was going to be more excited than you.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Probably.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
I was very excited about it, but really I just
like to I'm learned. I like to hunt turkeys, and
so there was a way to get to hunt more turkeys.
Tyler's gonna kill a fly on air quick. We have
one of those bug of salt guns and he's he's
landing on us over here. So buried the lead here
a little bit. We're gonna recap Turkey season. We Todd
and I both killed as the other gobblers. Then I

(25:28):
killed a Jake rio my uh, Tyler killed a gobler rio,
and then Michael killed a oh and before that, Greg killed.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
A gobler rio.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
That's already out on our channel if you had to
watch it. Michael killed an Iowa Eastern after that on
our channel. Need to go watch it if you hadn't, Please,
it's sick.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
By the way, let's cat's dude, the gun eats you
and it's it's good.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
It sounds like them sixth graders and seven on seven
football pretty much what it was. It is funny though,
because they'll they'll like talk trash, but they got these
really high pitch We just tried not the last.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
So after that we went and killed Todd and I
both killed Miriams. And that's where we're at, right, No,
and and then we get to what we're about to discuss.
So that's nine turkeys. That's right, Eric killed a reo.
That's nine turkeys.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yes, uh huh.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
So some of that stuff hasn't come out yet. Some
of them might land on the Meta channel, some of
them land on the Element channel next year.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
What what's it called when you don't shoot the oscillated
but you shoot all the rest of them, It's called
the Grand Slam.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
It's a world What are you saying adding the goulds
in there?

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because we're fixing the Element is fixing
to film ale season. We can't say so much more
but a single season, uh whatever. Whatever.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Super Slam might be all forty nine anybody.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Super Slam was like the ten, the ten North American
species of I think.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
They call it the Turkey SuperSlam though too Grand Slam.
What I thought it was a Slam Grand Slam. There's
a Royal Slam in there somewhere, I don't know where.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Turkeys, Oh, it's probably that might be the Royal Slam,
Super Slam, might be forty nine States.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
World Slam is the oscillated right here is with oscillated
for sure. Now here's the funny thing about all this, guys.
I'm gonna say one of those controversial things, but then
I'm gonna retract it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
But Royal Slam is what we're fixing it? Is it painted?
End to go?

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, there's a paint button rut there looking good. They
have to come up with a lot of this stuff
for turkeys because turkeys are all same.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Oh maybe I had a couple hundred years there.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
It is. Somebody clip that out and put it on.
That's audio, but all the same.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
But they are very similar, right, and but there's some
unique things about them. And one of the cool things
about turkeys is that I do feel as if, especially
after some recent events transpiring between New Mexico where Tyler
made a new friend in the woods that we all
became friends with, and then just through the network that
we have of people that kind of helped us go
find some turkeys in Missouri. Turkey hunting is a friendly activity.

(28:33):
Godd what's the pattern on that? Like it's modified. That's
what I needed, Like whitetail hunting, getting help with whitetail
as far as like where should I go is kind
of tough.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Turkey hunt is more like about turkey camp more than anything.
It's got a little bit that waterfowl thing going on.
I feel like.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
It's it's definitely not a lone wolf.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Type thing, you know.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
And I don't mean the brand, I mean like the
mentality right, Turkey hunting very much is. I mean, we
saw some people in the woods this week. One was
an older fellow who's local. He was by himself, but
a lot of the other people we saw there's like a.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Group of people.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, and they're not filming, so they don't have any
reason to have a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
You're not gonna do that deer hunting. You're not just
gonna walk around with two of your.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Buddies and just be like not usually Yeah, I mean, Eric,
you started hunting, you know, a little while ago, but
didn't hunt since you were a kid? Did you when
you and what you and Tray or you and Carter
shar together my buddy Justin? Okay, so you and Justin
like go out together and set up near each other
and y'all split up.

Speaker 6 (29:42):
We always sat with each other. Yeah, so he was
starting hunting the same time I was.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Y'all both were newbies. That's interesting.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
But then I went with Carter two and same thing.
We'd sit together.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, did you feel did you do that because of
the camaraderie because you didn't feel like you knew a
lot about hunting at that point or what.

Speaker 6 (30:03):
A little bit of both. Sometimes we split up, but
for the most part, we stay together just for the fun.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Got you and you have more fun than there's people,
I think, So, yeah, I think I do too.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
I still kind of miss hunting a tree by myself sometimes,
but I definitely don't miss like just coming back to
a cold RV by myself and not having people to
talk about the hunt with, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Like that ain't that ain't no good brother.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
It's a lot of fun to come back and Yeah,
so we went out on our mi quest at least
to to film or to shoot a grand Grand Slam.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Grand Slam what what would what would that consist of? There,
Tyler Eastern Osciola or Florida Florida Rio grand We got
to figure out what that means Mark, Mark Kenyon's right,
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
I mean, especially on turkeys, dude, Ostiola literally is just
an Eastern that.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Just lives in the swamps.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, they do sound a little different.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
I don't know, man, your your turkey had some black wings.
I ain't never seen the east.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, dark.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
It's just listen, they.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
All in Florida.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
No, let out two turkeys, okay, and then they went
out places them turkeys that all went down there to Florida,
they all had this little recessive trait that had darker.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Wings on them. That's how you get them.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
That's why they're called subspecies because it doesn't actually exist
in a Linnaean a series of naming.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
You're right, for sure, they're not. There's nothing different really
except for the environment.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
It's a change except for fish. What is the scientific
name of say that on there? Is it like like
ovis ovis or something that'd be a big horn sheep
olus OLiS but.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
It's gonna be one of those things where there's two
and then they add a little parentheses for the subspecies of.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Like millionaires gris gal lineis. They might not even add anything.
It might just be the same gala. Pavo means ground dwelling. Uh.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
That means like that means like a ground bird. If
you're doing the uh the Latin on it. Pavo means
like pavlovs kind of like duck and turkeys and geese
and stuff. But anyways, they're they're a lot alike chicken.

(32:40):
Chicken is a galley gap.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
It is real.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Man, The Easterns are cool, Michael, You're I've been trying
to tell everybody you're welcome.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
They I don't know about the gobble thing that you'all
talk about.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
I don't hear as much difference. That's a especial tale
for people who live in a country.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Different birds are different, because that last morning we heard
one bird that was like, Oh, that thing's got some
crack to what he's.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Got going on. Yeah, the dinosaur.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yeah, But the other ones didn't sound They just sounded
different to me, like Merriam's kind of sounds like. And
then yeah, and then the Eastern sound like it's rasty
the thing that I do. It's like it sounds like that.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
That sounds Rio sounds like, yeah, dude, Rios those are
way meter they are.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Absolutely they are the rodeo clowns of the turkeys. Turkeys
are all clowns, right with the blue and red and
all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Rios a rodeo clowns.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Absolutely, we should make shirts for each kind of clown clowns.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
I like, yeah, I like that idea Mudfield clowns, you
know what, one of those Yankee clowns. That's it.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
So I guess to spare the linear version of telling
a turkey story. He just kind of hit some highlights
and some fun stuff that happened. Tyler stayed at home
because he didn't like us anymore. In fact, he didn't
want to be on the podcast today, but I made.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
So we sure talking about those things. Yeah, I get it,
I get it.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
We will have quite a bit of deer stuff coming
out soon.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
We have actually some ideas about some deer hunting podcasts
that are very tactically involved, so this should be good.
But we took you know, if you listened last week,
we took Nick Gns alas with us.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Uh yeah to uh Missouri go turkey hunting?

Speaker 1 (34:43):
When do we do that podcast?

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Did you maybe seen a turkey real close at that
point in time or not?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
No, we did that the first day. Okay, after that first.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Morning we kind of you know, had to get our
licenses all figured out.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
That's that day we did that stuff. Okay, on Monday,
m on Tuesday, probably Tuesdy Okay. Anyways, we're balking people down,
but essentially, uh more, things are transparent since then. And
Nickson he Michael, Yes, you I think Eric help me
on on this. Michael is the most eat up with turkeys.

Speaker 6 (35:17):
And I would probably say that, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Think you and I aren't about the same spot.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
We really like it, but still like de you' hunting more.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Michael will be looking at like he'll be scouting turkeys
when we're deer hunting, I'm telling you, And that's when
I leave him.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
At the truck. Also is when I shoot a deer
in the ear hole. That actually is very true. No no, no,
not in the hole, but in the ear the ear
hole just sounded funny for sure. Yeah, I gave it
to your hole. Because Michael was talking about turkeys while
we're hunting deer due it was December almost time. Was

(35:53):
the reason we're sitting there is because deer are gonna
walk in? Oh they did, and it walked in while
you're talking about turkeys. And then he wasn't ready. Well
I was ready the first part of your clip. Stop
you are not stop. Look brother, So.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Did that turkey scouting you were doing turn into turkeys?
What were you talking about right then?

Speaker 1 (36:20):
What are you talking about? Oh? Talking about uh, turkeys
while deer hunting. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
I think we were talking about Arkansas turkey hunting or something,
and like how cool turkeys would be if they were
in the specific part of the country that we were in.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah, turkeys, Yeah, they don't live places for unknown reasons.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah, but they're known. It just depends on who you are,
if you know it or not. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Well some people think they know things. You know, as
they say, you know, make your own they know everything,
as I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
It's right.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
So since you eat up with birds, yes, just explain
your strategy for getting close to a turkey.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
It is at this point.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
It's changed a little bit from the last time I
discussed this, but it is cover as much ground in
the deepest part of public that.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
You can find.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Oh you think deepest helps?

Speaker 1 (37:16):
I think finding a bird that you can go in ground?
Does this have to be public? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:24):
What are you just some THHP guy public?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
No?

Speaker 2 (37:29):
But I being out twenty four turkeys wherever they are, brother.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
I do too. I do too.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
To clarify, I'm not going to just hunt public land turkey.
But me being twenty four, you know, not having not
having the money to go get land all over the place,
probably gonna end up hunting turkeys on public land a lot.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
So not in Texas, you're not.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Yeah, But anyway to move this along, I guess, just
find where the turkeys. If they go a couple hundred yards,
there's still gonna be where you can hunt them. Because
a lot of the problem we have on public land
is birds moving off of public and then once they're there,
they you know.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Deepest, not because of pressure, but as much as it's
just tough to deal with the interface. Room to work
a bird is what I want. Yeah, yeah, I can
see that.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Being how far are you shooting these things? It just
depends where they're at how far it doesn't I mean,
it doesn't matter if I mean you can hunt fifty
yards from the private line.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Yeah, but sometimes you set up isn't perfect and they
get by you. And if they do that and you're
in the middle of public, you can make a different
You can adjust, move around them and set up on
them again.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
See when I hunt Mitchell Johnson, it was perfect all
the time. Yeah. Well, if you know this or not.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Mitchell messaged me yesterday because he watched that video, the
Texas Real video where I said him to do my
best Mitchell Johnson, and he thought it was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
You know why I thought it was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
He didn't say this, but it's probably because I sounded bad.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, He's like, you still got about twenty five years brother,
So I told him, I said, I got a few
decades to work on it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
But uh so you want to get close to turkeys,
I love getting and you want to be far away
from boundaries.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Yep, pretty much and just cover as much ground as possible.
That is the name of the game for me.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
What do you do when you find a turkey tune
in fifty yards on the road.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Uh, you absolutely freak out and probably scare your new
camera guy because he's like, this kid is a clown.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
That's that's what you do. He already heard you said that.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Is there a thing targeting gets competitive?

Speaker 3 (39:47):
From what I've seen, I haven't observed it personally, I
feel although i've.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Seen opposite of that actually in the woods.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah, but I've heard this a lot from people, like
is it worth camping out on a bird?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
I don't think so, so, like like staying the night
in the.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Woods potentially, or like getting there real early that way
you know you're the guy that's there, or.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Whatever I could do to get there. If I can
answer that, I would say getting there early for sure. Yeah,
but I ain't camping out.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
I'm with you, and I'm I mean, I like to
hunt some turkeys. I don't think I'm gonna camp out
under a bird. I'll just go find another one. It's
not worth worth the altercation with somebody that's gets angry
with you.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
For camping, for sitting there and just people get angry
because you're the first guy.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Everything.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Well, if you're camping there, like they come by and
you're just camped out underneath the bird, they're probably.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Not gonna like it very much. Really, I don't think
people would take too kindly why Because it's just one
of those things where.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
I mean, if you're willing to put that effort in there, not.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I know that's where I'm at. I'm like, get after it, dude. Yeah,
I mean it hurts if that's the only bird I
know where it's at. But at the same time, like
I can't get mad. I'm just not going to camp on.
You know what I did on this trip.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
That I I don't think it's because I'm good, but
I've gotten a little better at calling, and for sure
I'm at least good enough to where like I can
sound like a turkey.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
And I didn't know I could do this.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
But one morning we didn't have a bird to hunt,
and we went in and did.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
The Mitchell Johnson.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
World Champion turkey callar if you're unfamiliar, Mitchell really nice guy,
a great guy, Christian man brother, and just showed up
and covered ground and did some turkey noises until we
heard some gobbles and then kind of set up on
him and did some calling.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
And that was pretty Actually effective.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Covering ground while the turkeys are talking is effective. That's
the thing.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Man, Like I feel as if I'm so The next
morning we went and hunted some turkeys that were like
iffy with boundaries.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
We were good, but like they were spending time on
public and private.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
I almost think we may have been better off just
going to where we knew there could be turkeys on
a big piece of public and finding a bird that
we could choot at, you know for sure, but we
just kind of learned it stuff along the way here.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
It's hard to going at him.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
And be like, oh, rooster, that bird, but let's go
find one that I don't know where he's at exactly.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah, it's hard to do, but I have I don't
know if I've told the story.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
I have missed.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
I missed three turkeys on this trip, and that's just
absolutely terrible. Makes you want to throw up a little bit,
especially the last one. We watched the footage this morning.
One of them was a monster that I missed. I
missed a really nice, big long beer too. And the
another one was like a weird I don't know if
he's a super jake or just a younger turkey that

(42:42):
didn't have.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
A very long beer.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
But his beer was like six or seven inches long,
but it looked like a gobler.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
There was a weird age class going on in Missouri.
Tyler just splattered fly blood. Yeah it's real, look at it.
That's weird.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
But anyways, Uh, come to find out, my shotgun was
patterning pretty bad, and I probably am blessed to have
killed the turkeys I did this spring just because I
got close to some of them and just ended up
hitting the others. But uh, that morning that we were
covering a lot of ground, we did call in a

(43:21):
I mean this was like a quetzaquadalis, like a big
old turkey.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
I don't know where did you just said, but it
was a mondo. It's like a Aztec bird.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Uh. Actually, well that those have similar root words. But
ketch aquadalus, I believe is the largest uh TerraSAR mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Maybe Tyler's looking it up.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
So essentially a dinosaur turkey is a monster one of
those birds that like has to kind of like, uh,
here you go, ketch squadalss Uh.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Not shaped like a turkey though, no, but he big bird.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Uh but uh he like kind of had that thing
going on where he had to walk around to spurs,
you know what I mean, he.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Is almost stepping on his beard while he was yeah,
called we.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Called him into about thirty He got kind of weird.
And then Eric and I had a miscommunication where I
didn't think Eric could get him on footage, but he
had him on footage.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
So there is some you know.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Pretty good encounter and then ended up missing the bird.
But let's hear about Michael's actual success. Okay, Michael, so air,
do you have.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Anything else say on that? Really?

Speaker 2 (44:35):
How what do you think about following me around hunt turkeys?

Speaker 1 (44:37):
It's fine? Was it?

Speaker 6 (44:39):
Chase the turkeys is always fine, good at when they're
goblin and they're strutting and.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
The Easterns don't seem to talk on the route like
in the evenings a whole lot. Yeah, we had a
hard time with that.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Me and Michael too. They're just not alphas. No, they're
all scared.

Speaker 6 (44:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, they weren't really talking.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
They were doing a little turkey talking. They would gobble
like like.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
You got a couple of gobbles to pretty much pinpoint him,
Like you can't just be sitting there listen to him
in the same spot.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Like you got man, you got to unleash it, brother, Listen.
I was getting real loud and they were not doing it.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Hey, that morning that we went into all those birds
that was on the boundary and I gave him that
hootout he blew our heads off.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, but you used the call. No, I used my
mouth on that one. Michael's mouth call is not very good.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Well, Michael heard a screech all over there and he's
freaking dude.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
I never actually heard a real one, and I like
went in the backyard out hooted, and it was just
like lost his mind and I was very monkey.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
No, it was one of those groundhogs.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
No, in the yard freaking out. That's probably what Mark
saul when he was hun sound like a monkey, looked
like grown truck. That's it.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
And you know Mark has nightmares about Michigan wolverines. Yeah,
he's being a spartan.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
So yeah, what's Ohio State doing? The spartans? Michael beating
the tar out of it.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Okay, let's get all right. So we do a thing
I'm gonna promise you, and then we'll let you talk.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yeah, we do a thing that I think is not
all that common, and I thought it was, but we
like go out and actively work hard to find birds
on the roost the night before and to hoot him
or do whatever we can and make him talk. Do
you feel as if that is not a thing that
most turkey hunters do? And then if it's not, or

(46:41):
are there people who look down on that because I
know turkey untons kind of got a thing going on, right, Yes,
which I'm aware of and I kind of understand just
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
But I also like to push the batteries on that stuff.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
I don't think it's I don't think people don't like it,
but I do think only like a third of the
people are trying to roost birds.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Like especially on public.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
I don't know so much on private, like can you
just walk out your back door and out hoot and
you're probably gonna do it, But on public, I feel
like it's a third of the people, and most of
the people seem like they were just driving around like
an hour before sunset looking for strutters and the fields,
and then they were gone by hoot.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
And if you stay out till hoot and time, you're
doing long days all the time we ate suppering nine
thirty every night. Yeah for sure that I think that's
maybe a part of the problem for most people.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
By the time we're leaving, I was like, you know,
we should eat before we go out there.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
It's what we're doing New Mexico. But when we got
to Missouri, it was like, I guess we're not gonna
do that.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
I guess not. We're just gonna go find them. So
you did.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Yeah, we me and Nick that night we covered some
Nick Knight Baby.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Listen Knight, that's my thing, Okay, I used to watch
them lot.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
Anyway, we covered a whole bunch of ground. We pretty
much much, so I'm not gonna tell the whole story,
but we saw a bird in a field the same
that morning, so we knew there were gonna be turkeys
in there, and it was kind of like a weird
spot where we thought there would be just a ton
of pressure, like just blown up with pressure, but hadn't

(48:18):
seen a truck there or anything. So we make a
big loop that night.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Like again.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
That way we can get to the deep, deeper details.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Okay, earlier you made the point you like to be
deep onto public, and we decided it wasn't because of pressure.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
I feel as if turkeys do not react to pressure
the same way deer do.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
I don't think so either. Can you explain that a
little further?

Speaker 4 (48:39):
I think get killed that that's part of it. That's
part of it, for sure. The ones who get pressured
are getting pressured by some tss but bobcats.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
But I think.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
This is gonna make some people mad, probably. I just
don't think they're as bright as deer like. I think
that's just the simple, the simple thing. It's almost as
if you could bump them and they'll come back two
days later.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
You can do it again, you do it all season long. Yeah,
they just made a big circle.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
So part of the reason I think there were birds
in this place wanting to do the thing was because
it probably got a lot of pressure week one and
then nobody went back in there because it's just kind
of a weird in between spot.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
But guys, what is it? I feel like successful people
don't often make big, bold statements, and we make one
like every minute on this podcast. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Well, well, I don't know, man. I think in the
world we live in now, you got to be controversial
or you're not nothing.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
I don't know, dude, I think, okay, you try it
being No I'm saying I'm thinking about some different people,
especially in our same name, drawing them it helps their
s No, come on, no, not there those people they
don't really say a whole lot of They just kind
of don't say a lot of controversial things, you know,

(49:58):
And I wonder if or just maybe that's why people
don't like us.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
This is the last spin on turkey seventeen years.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
That's a big old bird. That's because those are domestic,
half domestic.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Those are cool. If I saw one of those in
the woods, I'd freak out for sure.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
I want to raise one of those. There again, a
set there again, set set turkey. It's a half Eastern,
half domestic. We're gonna go down a rabbit hole. But
I want to raise some turkeys, bad to Let's do it.
Raise them. Let's build a paris and start the flock.
You know what it's called ay aviary, right is it? Aviary?

(50:35):
Av and his.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Birds a paris bees must build a build a bird cage.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah, and reintroduce them ourselves.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
And that's not gonna work. That's a disaster. They got
this as get away to get a ticket. No, yeah,
they'll never know. Okay, tickets. What's our what's that? What's
our rabbit hole?

Speaker 3 (50:57):
I was just saying, I want to raise some turkeys,
and we just went down the rabbit hole. It wasn't
as long as we're back out the hole. Yeah, we're
back out the hole. We're like at Jack Russell, in
and out on the Okay, back to where you were
going with. So we found turkeys. We saw them out
in the field like middle of the day, in a
spot that you can drive by, Like literally was driving

(51:20):
by it, just because it was like middle of the day.
I was like, might as well, might as well, you
never know, So we knew there were turkeys in the area,
and so pretty much we looked at the map and
just saw all the habitat that looked the same, and
me and Nick just did a big ol' loop. We
saw probably fifteen turkeys that night out in fields, none

(51:43):
of them Tom's. So we're pretty down to the dumps.
I think a lot of them been shot.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
They get shot. I think a lot of them are shot.
It seems as if people are passing Jakes. Yeah. I
talked to a couple peple that were passing Jakes. Yeah.
I wanted to I wanted to pass Jakes.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
Yeah, And so we were I wasn't gonna hunt the Jakes.
I was gonna try to find a Tom. And so
it's getting pretty late in Nick doesn't really know how
turkey hunting goes. So I'm trying to kind of keep him,
you know, keep him in the game, keep him like, hey.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
We're gonna imagine learning turkey in from Michael du Hey.
It worked, first off, it worked, second off. I was
trying to keep him in the game, just so you
know he likes turkey hunting, like I'm trying to. I'm
trying to make a turkey hunter here while trying to
make a video. And we get to back to the
spot about you know, goblin time, and first spot we stop,

(52:36):
i'd ouhoot in. It's like two hundred yards away, bird gobbles,
and I lose my mind. I'm like freaking out because
I know where the bird is in. I hooted there
because if there's a bird in that corner, he's pretty
much toast.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Like he had nowhere to go. He either had to
fly out into the field where newsflash, we were gonna
be sitting, or fly the other direction. Eight hundred yards
pretty much was dry green.

Speaker 7 (53:04):
Yeah, you said, tune r yards to the bird.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
We've kind of found out that you have to be
fairly close to those easterns to make them gobble.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Yeah. I think it's I don't know if it'd be
the same if you were there earlier, saying is it
because it's later in the season.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
I think it's vegetation related, like the sound is not
traveling as far and they've been out hooted at fifty
two times.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
I would also be willing to think that some birds
have different characteristics and those birds make them easier to.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Well, that's for sure kind of what we had determined
as well.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
And I don't know.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
I'm sure there are, like you know, personal traits to
the turkeys, but I think a lot of the times
it's just how hot is that turkey that day? And
I think that the turkeys that will gobble on the
roost in the evenings are killable birds in them the
next morning. I think, I think a lot of times,
not a blanket statement, guys, A lot of times the

(54:25):
birds that are gobbling in the morning or in the
evenings are like kind of freaking out because they don't
have hens. At least that's what it seemed like on
this trip, is when they were gobbling real hard in
the evenings, they didn't have hens, so they were trying
to find out for the morning.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Where the hens are more going to talk turkey tactics.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
That's a thing. And here's another thing on that.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
I think that if you hear a bird in the
morning that's on the roost and you can tell he's
turning back and forth, he's also killable because if he's
got hens in the trees with him, he's just gobbling
at them.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Every time he will gobble in response to you, but
he won't turn around and.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Look at you exactly.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
But if you got a they'll turn around and look
at you.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
That bird is killable. So the bird, the bird that
I killed in New Mexico this year, was amongst a
dellion I don't know, a million hens, yes, and he
was turning a bunch and it was like it was
almost like he couldn't decide, you know what I mean.

(55:23):
It's like there was too many hens. Yeah, So I
mean that that's interesting. I hadn't thought about that. But
you think about the bird that you killed two years ago.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
We were both set upon. I don't believe that that
turkey turned once. I think he turned one time and
then he pretty quickly turned back.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Around as soon as he heard me yelp. He turned
the up. I'm pretty sure he turned right back around
pretty quickly. But I don't know if that was because
of you or because he just knew where he wanted
to go. Yeah, there was hens with him, and he
flew down right on their tail, just like this year too,
So it's interesting.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Yeah, So this bird, to fast forward a little bit,
was on the roost the next morning doing three sixties
like he was losing his mind. And he was actually
a lot closer to us that I just got you, Dusty.
He was actually a lot, a lot closer to us
than we thought. Me and I had originally thought he

(56:25):
was in the opposite corner from where he was. So
when me and me and Nick snuck in, we snuck
into like within one hundred yards I think it was
like eighty, but I'm just gonna say within one hundred.
And we're sitting there in the dark, and I'm like,
you know, it's it's real dark. I'm like half asleep,
kind of taking a nap, just waiting for it to happen,
and he gobbles and me and Nick both like jump

(56:45):
out of our skins, like freaking out because we're expecting
a bird here. He's actually back here and way closer
than we thought.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
So so when you roosted him the night before, was
he one hundred and eighty off of what you thought
he was?

Speaker 3 (57:00):
He? I was worried that if I stepped out to
where I could actually pinpoint him, he was gonna see him.
Oh okay, Like that's how close we were dealing with here,
which is ridiculous, first off.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Second off, so we were wrong.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
Anyway, And he's on the tree, just going doing three sixties,
and it's about fly down time, and I tell Nick,
I'm gonna yelp at him. I yellp at him, and
this is kind of something that I'm I think is
the way to.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Do it when they're on the roost is just yelp
one time and shut up. Because when I did that,
he lost his mind. He just faced us and like
gobbled like eight times, facing right at us, just freaking out.
Fly down is very close to uh sunrise sunrise?

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
So yeah, yeah, And that seems to be a generality.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I think so too.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
In New Mexico, we had some birds fly down early,
but we thought that potentially those birds were on top
of the mountain and they were getting light earlier than
other parts. But in general that is the case. So
I think that if you're going to do that tactic,
which I believe.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Is pretty spot on. That's what a lot of the
old times. You want to kind of wait.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
You want to let him kind of do his more
thing gobble stuff, and you want to do that like
five to ten minutes before he flies down.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Yeah, Like you don't want to do it in the dark, right, yep.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
You want to do it at the right time to
where he's you know, not going to forget about you.
I don't know if that's how it actually works, but
that's how I think.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
I think it does.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
I think that it's so hard to wait ten minutes.
Oh yeah, when you know, like we talk about the
silent treatment a lot. In like ten minutes is the
silent treatment. If you go longer in ten minutes, that
bird has bird brains you and he is on to
something else.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
But anyway, he gobbles like eight times and then I
just hear like not even a pitch out.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Even like just straight down. That's what those Easterns are doing.
They're fat.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
I just heard like the slightest little thing, and I
I said to Nick, I was like, I think he
just flew down. And right when I said that it
was like, oh, and he was in the timber like
right next to us. And shortly after Nick loses his mind,
he looks to his right.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
He like slowly looks to his right and he's like,
I see him. He's got a long beard. Oh, it's
really long.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
And I was sitting there like, Nick, you can't do this,
like I'm freaking out right now because you just said that.
And eventually I'm kind of like, so we're kind of
teaching Nick how to run camera right, So I'm looking
at his camera like making sure all the settings are right,
and it's all pretty close. I'm just telling one little
thing gets on the turkey and does a real good job.

(59:40):
But the turkey pretty much walks in, gobbling his head off,
going in and out of strut and like just does
a little half circle, which the Easterns also were.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
Doing on us all week long. Pretty much they wouldn't
commit to come all the way. Potentially a late season thing,
Oh for sure, I think. I mean Iowa the first
season they he sprinted in. Yeah, so it's probably he's
seen the game a couple of times. But he's doing
like a half circle and kind of hangs up in
a spot where I can't shoot. So every time he

(01:00:13):
would gobble, I would kind of take a couple of
inches and just lean out further and further.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
And.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
He takes like two more steps and kind of starts
facing towards the brush, and I just take the last
couple of inches and pretty much dust him. Why did
you Well, I don't understand first of all, every shot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Opportunity you've had this year, you're in a weird position.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
I think it's partly me. I think it's partly just
I like shooting stuff from my back. Apparently, I don't
know why. Remember when he first shut up about the
horizon stuff. Yeah, he just likes weird horizons. Telling you
gotta make it interesting somehow. Yeah, that's a that's your
generation for sure. The shotgun for sure. Grab my iPhone
and just video with a buckshot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
We could shoot some deeper shot next year.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
I want to shoot a prong horn of the buckshot?

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Bad?

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Yeah? Are you going to? No? I hate? How many
points do you have in Colorado? That's over? It draws over? Yeah,
but how many points do you have? I don't know,
probably like three? So anywhere to hunt him?

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
We kind of when I was at your percent as
you said that you killed that bird. Yeah, I'm sorry
about that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Okay, Okay, the Element podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
That's right way together, dude. Yeah, it's the Missouri Mike. Dang,
do you public land bird Missouri?

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
It went. It's hard to picture something going more perfect
than that morning. So were you when you set up?
Were you? Was he closer even though he's a different direction?
Was he closer than when you where you thought?

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
I thought we were going to be at like one
twenty from him when we set up and we here,
we were definitely inside it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Yeah, but we.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
We woke up real early and got in in the dark,
so yeah, I wouldn't worried about him seeing us at all.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
We were doing some boating. We got up, we left
the same time you did, but we were taking a
lot more time. Yeah, And we did the thing that
morning where we didn't know where a bird was, So
you don't want to be there super dark when that happens.
But we essentially were in Florida doing the Osceola thing,
and you hunted with me, And I made the statement

(01:02:22):
that if you want to bowl turkey hunting down to
like like a general statement about like how to kill turkeys,
it's get within two hundred yards of them without them
spooking or knowing that you're there, and make some noises.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Yep, and that's what you did there. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Yeah, it's pretty much the game pretty much is the
way to do it. And if there's hens, that's when
it gets weird.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Yeah, for sure. But I feel like the East.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
I don't know if it's easterns or if it's the
area we were in, but.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
It's almost like the gob to Hen ratio is better.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Yeah. I think.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
It's Jake's here too.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
I really noticed it in New Mexico. I think where
fall deer hunting, where you can get a turkey tag
is a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
I think a lot more hands are.

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
Getting shot because people are just they want turkey meat,
so they're just gonna if a turkey comes in, then
they're gonna shoot it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Do we ever see a Jake in New Mexico ever?

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
No, but Bob saw something.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Yeah, Will.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Yeah, what was his nickname? A lot of them, Dizzy Duck, Disney.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Duck, that's right, oh man, Yeah, congrass. Michael big Bird.
They pulled up to the house. Michael had a black
mile sit back in the other stuff, though he had
the bird hanging from the rafter on the carpoard.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
I think it's a picture.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Yeah, and he was just sitting there chilling.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
It's become a thing hanging your bird up with. It's
a little nilon string or something.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
You know what I think I want. I want one
of the turkey totters. Yeah, I want a turkey totor bad.
I think it's just a big old piece of leather
with some straps on it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Yeah, pretty much. Then you just hold it down here, right,
I'd like to have one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Oh no, they make a backpack out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
That's right. Patrick has one.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
It's got a little like noose thing on the front,
and then like a thing that ties around the legs
and you put the turkey on, kind of like one
of them Dave Smith's uh Bequi bags.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
That'd be nice to have. Yeah, they're slick string between
his legs and put it around your neck. Yeah, that'd
be cool.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
I mean, if you go on turkey, you have some style,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
I guarantee you you gotta have a little bit of swag.
I guarantee you're becoming the duck hunter that you don't
like about. They don't like I'm just off air weekends
talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
I was gonna go to jail.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Oh boy, it's been a fun Turkey season. Guys. It
ain't over yet, but now it is.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Well, it ain't over until Michael's gonna go hunt some rios,
maybe another.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
I gave it. I gave an attempt at the Eastern,
so you don't hate me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
You're gonna go back with us there next year because
it's pretty it's pretty fun working.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Yeah, for sure, it would be good. Actually Eric had
it and I didn't, and it didn't seem to help
very much.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
How many washings were you into that though?

Speaker 6 (01:05:45):
I was probably at the limit i'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
I'd be no washings into it. Yeah, yeah, that would
be helpful. We decided that the deat doesn't do a
lot to them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
No, we tested it multiple times. No, I don't work.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
There's gotta be something you can put on yourself though
that they don't like to taste stuff like vanilla, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
I don't know that. Mosquitos, Yeah, oh I can't do that. Well,
I'll just pick them up pizza and Michael olives olives.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Yeah, yeah, No, it was a medium sauce so that
I thought it was spicy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
It was burning me down well, you know, but in Missouri,
I'm not so sure about that. They got it down there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
We did get to celebrate with some pizza that was
nice pizza, duet pizza since twenty twenty two, have you not?

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
I don't think so. What we saw celebrating this year
with pizza when we were JP and l A. Did
we pizza? Hut? Yeah a lot. We didn't know. I
did later later, but that was for Lat's pizza. But
we need you mean, oh, okay, what about Kansas this
past year? I thought we got pizza then, I don't

(01:06:58):
think so, dude, don't we get it? No, we had
frozen We.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Didn't do pizza like the whole year we had frozen
pizzas we that's that's those are good.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
I will say I felt pretty good all year. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
No, man, just the burrito diet which we were on
on this trip, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
I was on the cases every morning. Dude.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Listen, these little sneakers would go to cases without me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
I ain't sneaking around at all.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
That's what we come back and be like, where'd you
get that drink?

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Yeah? Well it was I mean, how many pieces of
breakfast pizza did you bring? Us.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
I didn't eat z. I didn't eat one piece of breakfast.
Pay That stuff is dangerous. It would be good with
in South Dakota. I'm pretty sure it's like a big shot.
I bet we be in casey did we did?

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
For sure, we get that pizza last year. That was
two years. I love free food. Yeah. So, speaking of guys,
we've been in.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
A debate and we're we're we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Close pretty soon. We're gonna talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Some deer hunting stuff. All right, We're gonna let you
you in. I say this too often, so you stop
saying it, dear min. We've been thinking about doing some
more Buck Truck.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Oh I like it. I like it too. It doesn't
like it, No, I love it, but it needs to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
I feel like our buck Truck episodes were.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Bad at the bone. Yeah, but well the problem one
of the problems with buck Truck episodes is it eats
the whole trip. Yeah. Well, maybe we don't have to
do it that way exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Maybe not, but I think it's a good premise.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
To like the main problem is you have to go
to the media channel. You can't go to our channel
and see it. Oh no, you can too. There's a
four hour Buat Truck extravaganza. Go, dude, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Yeah, start watching it there, guys. If you're going back
and watching reruns, that's right. So I think we might
do it again. I'd like to hear some public opinion
of that. Listen, I'd like to do it or in
public opinion. It needs to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Why do you like it so much? It's just a.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
This is gonna sound gen z, but I don't know
how how else to say it. It's just like a
there's a certain vibe to it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
There's a certain vibe peach. We were saying that before
y'all were born.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
Cosmic No cosmic antarctic vibe Celsius, guys are not.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
The one to do. I can't pach vibe. That don't
like the stuff, dude. Yeah. First off, Also, natural flavor
is nasty, comic not natural. Brother.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
Peach vibe vibe is the one, y'all just don't listen
to cases Tropical vibe. Oh, tropical vibes good, that's good,
but not peach peach not as good as peach. Peach
vibe is the one. I think peach and tropical or
on the same lif. If I could only drink one celsius,
the rest of my life would be peach.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Okay, go back with the buck truck. Okay, buck truck.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
It just has a certain vibe to it, and I
those episodes to me are some of the best white
tail content on planet Earth because you were there filming
it could be it could be a little bit of bias.
And I don't really remember that year, so it kind.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Of just you're mad, my blackout the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Let's talk, let's explain this just a bit. Uh, vibe
is a strange unit of measurement.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
There we go, so vibe. Yeah, he said, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Got a certain viz unit of measurement. Well, maybe it's
a classification of.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Measurements and there would be units according to it. But like,
what is a vibe exactly? Because is it the is
it the pacing? Is it the content?

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Nobody can put a finger on it. I've already figured
this out. Okay, there's there's nobody can put a finger
on why they like bulk trucks so much. Like I've
not heard anybody disassociated with the element right say why
they like bult so much? But I've said I've heard
a lot of people say they like the Buck Truck

(01:11:03):
series a lot, but nobody said why. And I think,
like Michael said, like it's you can't like almost put
a tangible thing on it. It's like it's just like
overall awesome episode. That's exactly what I wanted to watch, right.
And maybe it's because I don't think of our videos
as being fast paced. But when you think about an

(01:11:26):
eight day trip to Arkansas being condensed into forty five minutes,
I mean, it's God, I mean, it's it's only the
best stuff. You know, it's entertaining.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
Maybe maybe it's the thing because entertainment doesn't really know
an age or a what you might say, like style, right,
it just is entertaining. Like I can watch a dude,
you know, cook a fish at fifteen thousand feet on
some you know, Tibetan mountain, right, and that's entertaining. But

(01:11:57):
then I also can watch you know, cat's falling off
the counter and that's entertaining.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
So like Buck Truck is.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Essentially entertaining, and that actually does cover a lot of people.
It's also something that I think a lot of people
can just look at and be like, that's what I'm
like with my friends when I'm just out there hunting
publicly or whatever. You think, So you think it connects.
I think it's yeah. I think that's a lot of

(01:12:24):
the vibe.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
So have we made stuff that doesn't do that?

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
Yes, yes, for sure, this might turn into an off
air conversation real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Well maybe people like to be in the thought process
a little bit. Maybe, So I think I can remember
us putting an emphasis this was your idea too, on
when we would normally turn the cameras off, let's actually
film that. And so that was like during the buck

(01:12:55):
Truck series. That was the first time that we ever
were like because originally you it was just you and me,
and it was like, Okay, we just showed up at
this place, we got permission to hunt this afternoon. Let
me film you with your camera, so we can just
have all this on one storyline. Right, I'm gonna film

(01:13:16):
you with your camera. You're gonna do a little interview
in the truck, and then you're gonna film me do
my interview with the truck. Then we're gonna part ways
and sell film from then and then in twenty twenty
we started we had our first intern who helped for
a very brief period but helped us kind of be
filmed on camera, right, so you get to see a
little more of what's actually going on outside of the

(01:13:37):
hunting space, when you're in the truck, when you're in
the hotel, whatever. And then in twenty one Eric joined
and that was kind of that was the full season
of or nearly the full season of US Hunting, so
you got to see Case and I really especially talk
about stuff off of air, and that was the first
time that you really could see like what we do

(01:14:00):
off almost off air, right, Like what all the scheming
we were doing that you weren't getting in seventeen, eighteen,
nineteen twenty get a look behind sixteen we filmed a
little bit in sixteen two and twenty one you finally
got to see that. Well. In twenty two it was
a year we did Buck Truck and that was that

(01:14:24):
was like your big point of emphasis is likely now
we've got three dudes, we should be able to capture
like that whole being in the truck. It's like camp
but you know, truck atmosphere.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
And then we started measuring trips not on mileage but
by a terabyte.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Yeah. Yeah, and our videos became tougher to get out
quickly because of that too. So I know, I had
I did an Instagram live the other day and there
was I was kind of asking people like, hey, you know,
what do you like? What videos do you like of ours?
What's your favorite video of ours? A lot of people,

(01:15:00):
you know, they probably don't analyze this stuff as much
as we do, so I get it not there wasn't
a ton of like, what your favorite what's your favorite video?
A lot of people were just like all of them,
you know whatever. But I think that during the live video,
a lot of people were saying how they would like
to see some kind of raw cut stuff come out
in a more like relevant and quick fashion. So like

(01:15:25):
if something happens two days later, a raw video goes out,
you know what I mean, from that event or even
the next day or whatever. And we're trying to kind
of work towards that, I think a little bit. But
at the end of the day, we really do. We
really do. Look at what how many people have said
Buck Truck was, like this their favorite series. We've had
so many people that said they came to the element

(01:15:48):
from Meat Eater because of the Buck Truck series and
if that was if it was worth following the paper
trail from the media or YouTube channel to see what
we're doing and come over, then it was it did
something for them, you know, I mean they appreciated it.
So I can see where like getting stuff out quickly
is fun because I actually I actually like to follow.

(01:16:10):
I used to when I had time. I used to
like to follow people who got stuff out pretty quickly
and had almost like a log feeling. But I also
know that the buck truck is not that, and there
was a lot of people that liked it. So anyway,
just some kind of like behind the scenes stuff that
I did talk about a little bit, and I think
that that buck truck, the buck truck thing is you know,

(01:16:31):
if you're if you like the buck truck, then you
kind of have to be willing to say, Okay, it
might be a little while before I see that actual
trip coming.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
You know, but buck truck still has a little bit
of a raw thing going on. Sure, it's not extremely polished,
and Eric, you I think you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Can disagree if you want to.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
You probably will just because you kind of a guy, but.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
It's using it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Yeah, I think that you appreciate very polished content.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Yeah, I definitely disagree with that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Do you no way, dude, I've seen your edits. You're
like your turkey hunt and stuff and that kind of
well that.

Speaker 6 (01:17:08):
Might be different, but I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
It just it just depends on it's the Midwest moderate yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
So do you feel like buck truck is is kind
of like as far as a vibe.

Speaker 6 (01:17:23):
They come, I think it's for the Midwest answer, Uh,
best of both worlds Polish. I agree, And that's what
I like, is like raw stuff but also looks really good.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Would you shoot that in Paula on that video which.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
The yeah, yeah, I feel like that. What so if
you guys, you guys may or may not can tell
they're listening. We talk about this stuff a lot. We
think about this a lot because this is what, especially
this time of year, we want at the end of
the day. What we want is people that watch your
YouTube videos to love them, because that's why you're there,

(01:18:03):
is to watch a video that you like. And if
I'm gonna make videos, then I want it to be something.
I mean, if it's gonna be something that appeases me,
then I can put it on my personal YouTube channel.
I don't need I don't need people to see it necessarily,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
So I have a personallybe channel, have one subscriber, Yeah,
me too, Ye, But I think what I guess what
I'm saying is we talk about this lot what buck truck?

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
What makes buck truck both polished and raw? I guess
you could call it is it's polished in the way
we edit it, it's raw in the way we film it,
I think, and I think that that's just instead of
like you'll see this on outdoor TV. Sometimes somebody shoots

(01:18:47):
a deer and then the next shot is them walking
up to the deer. The camera guy's already on the
other side of the deer filming back at them. Right,
they're not breaking the fourth wall, which is where the
fourth wall would be. The camera guy is not at
actually a part of the video, whereas we sometimes will
have that happen, and.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
You know it's usually by accident. This might detract from
your point.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Go ahead, Well, just I just I'll finish up here
by just saying, like we we try to just have
a camera guy walking over our shoulder and filming everything
we do, and you know it ends up being Yes,
it ends up being raw. Because they don't aways have
a tripod or a gimbal or you know, a crane
or dolly or whatever. You know. But at the end
of the day, you do feel like you're walking behind

(01:19:30):
the sky watching him or you know, watching him hunt
pretty much.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
You know, I think that we might use the fourth
wall thing the wrong way.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
I think the fourth wall is the audience. Oh is it?

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
I think so, I just now thought about it. But
the fourth wall would be the lens, and so addressing
the audience is more of a fourth wall break, and
they both might qualify maybe, but you know, addressing a
member of production staff who's still in the moment, it
is less of a fourth wall break than addressing the audience.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Hm.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
This is definitely off off air conversation, but let's bring
it back in. So your point is that the rawness
is like just captured as it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Yeah, it's like no frills kind of is what it is.
It's no, like, don't don't worry too much about these
setups and these you know, sunflares and these gimbals and
stuff like that, and we try to we try to
make things better and better all the time. But at
the end of the day, like no frills. We're out
there capturing what we're doing to the most stable effect

(01:20:33):
and uh with the most precision we can. But it's
not we're not making a documentary, if that makes sense.
We're not. We're not. I mean, we're documenting young laying
cup named Musufu life.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
That's hard on a little kid, you know, like you
care about this baby elephant, and then like as an adult,
you're like, man, that was seventeen different baby oftens. They
just went back with some narration and made the story
however they want to. No, do you want you don't
want me to make controversial statements?

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
I know where you're going. I don't know if I
don't want you to. I'm just making a statement that
more people might like as if we didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
I just say it this way. This is controversial, but
very vague ambiguous. He might say, if there's a lot
of narration involved with something, there's a good chance that
the storyline in the timeline is not how it actually unveiled, unraveled,
or happened.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
And that's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
Just keep that in mind whenever you're watching something. Sometimes
my dad likes say this all the time. He has
a lot of friends who are storytellers, maybe even fibbers,
but he's like, man, the story is good.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
I don't really care if the thing actually happens. The
story is good. Yeah, And so that's how some YouTube
is done.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
Yeah, yeah, i'd say, you're you're probably right. We try,
We actually have tried over the years, you know, to
put the best, uh most full story together visually that
we can. But sometimes you get you get you know,
crazy on a trip and you forget to video that

(01:22:20):
anything happened between four pm and seven am the next morning,
so you kind of have to tell what happened, you
know what I mean. Or you might have a whole
day where you didn't see a deer, and it's like,
I don't need people to watch this, so I'm just
gonna say we struggled the next couple of days, you know.
So there's some of that that goes on, but.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
It's a weird uh Portraying struggle and a video is
actually very tough to do because struggle is boring when
it comes to hunting for sure a lot of times,
so like it's almost like you can't convey how tough
it was. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
One of my favorite struggle scenes that we've ever done
is in buck truck, which one Kansas.

Speaker 6 (01:22:56):
That's it, right before the time laps hit.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
You talk, uh no, when you are you were on
some public hunting and struggling to make things happen, and
it's just really it's a it's a montage of shots.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
And then we start belly aching and a truck and
make a phone call.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
And all this and things are looking pretty pretty grim.
And that time lapse Eric mentioned we did a time lapse,
uh because we were tagged out and so we were
just like, let's just make this is where we're like, okay,
now we can make production the cool stuff, you know,
and not that buddy, the raw stuff. We're gonna actually
do some polished stuff here. And we did a yeah,

(01:23:40):
we did a We knew were we all were hunting,
so we just slept slipped out there and did a
time lapse of the truck with the sunsetting or whatever.
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Pretty cool stuff that is cool. Yeah, well it's fun.
It sounds like fun, guys. I'm ready to start. This
is like production planning season.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
We're kind of making our calendar for whitetail and stuff
right now sold and surely in fact Tyler My solidified
something this morning, spooky.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
I would say it's a semi solid right now, which
is kind of like jello. Right. Yeah, it's fairly viscous.
Yeah yeah, I hate that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
I can never remember if viscus is thicker than viscus.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
The more viscous something is, the thicker it is. I see.
It sounds exactly wrong to me.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Uh, that's exactly opposite of what it should be.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
But anyways, guys, remember to read your encyclopedia and remember
this is your element

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