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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Eric, I'm Michael, and I'm Greg and this is
white Tail Bombes. Welcome back to white Tail Bombs everyone.
This is your favorite series on the Element Channel.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's better than the main one.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, it's way better than Tyler Casey.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You know. I'm Eric.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We got Michael and Greg here in the white Tail
Palace right now, all these dead dud Dude, we're on
a little bit of a break right now. We've just
been traveling around a ton, but you guys have one
more trip ahead of you before.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We hit the holidays. Yeah, dude, we're going to the
land where you can only take steps on rocks.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
In a Yeah, South Texas not is not very good
for spotting stalk.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
No, it is pretty loud, dude.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
It's probably the hardest place I filmed that. That New
Mexican mule Deer we went on was a pretty tough place.
But that was more because like keeping up with batteries
and having to use the sun a lot is.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Not Yeah, your camping is not easy.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And you're at ten thousand feet where storms just seemed
to start every single day. I mean every day we'd
have like about two o'clock it would rain every day.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Not to mention there's every kind of needle in that
country that I'll find you.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, dude, there's stuff I've never even dreamed of. What
is it jumping?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I've heard it called dog chola, dog jola, But that stuff, man,
it looks like grass when you're walking.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And apparently there's monkeys down there too, right, that's what Mark, there's.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Monkeys down there.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
So dude, I never saw really what he was talking about,
but I'm pretty sure it's a porkypine. Are the porcupines
down there?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Maybe it?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Ah? I definitely didn't see monkey, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know what he saw.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But if you haven't watched it yet, Greg has a
hunt on the YouTube channel.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, new video out and the time Casey let me
hunt for a little bit and got to take advantage
of it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
So you absolutely smoked that, dude, absolutely smoked it.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I thought I shot a little low because like I'm
used to shooting a really slow yeh bow, and like
at the shot was like fifteen yards, and so like
with a slower bow, like at fifteen yards, you're gonna
shooting a little high with your twenty yard pen.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, and with that bow it's like it shoots flat.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah. Remember in South Dakota, me and Casey set up
in a spot where like the shots were at five yards,
ten yards, and then fifty yards, and I remember asking
k C. I was like at ten yards, like how
low do I need to aim? And he was like, dude,
don't even worry, Like with these bows, you do not
need to worry about it that much, just as long
as just put your pen where it needs to go.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
And top to the city.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, we were just on a trip with JP France
of the Houston Astros and Ley McNasty, who is a
freaking funny dude.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
That dude is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
He like everybody says this and when they meet somebody
from the internet, it's like they're the exact same human
as they are on Instagram. He's pretty much the exact
same human.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
He's that times ten.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, I mean it's like kind of overboard, how like
he's just being himself in those videos, Like it's not
even like he's acting.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
In some of those skits, and it's all day long.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
He does not stop.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
The first day he got there, while like we went
to bed like forty five minutes before he got there,
so we didn't really meet him. He just walked into
the house past me and bumming it and uh, so
we didn't really meet him. And then the first morning,
I like when out to the garage to change and
he was in the kitchen when I came back and
he was just making away. Dude, we don't even know
(04:07):
each other right now.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
And then we had JP, who uh I can't remember.
He started following me or I followed him, and we
kind of like I realized he was using cruiser saddles
and he was shooting vector arrows at the time, and
so we kind of start browing it out and messaging
each other. And he was in the Miners at this time.
(04:31):
And this past year he got called up to the
Astros and uh pitched in the World Series this year
and we got to bring him along. He absolutely just
annihilate the Cardinals this year.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Talk about best pictures this year.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
So he uh, we brought him along with us and
that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Hopefully, you don't really know what to expect. I feel
like I've I've been hunted with many baseball players, actually
only one, but I feel like I wasn't expect think
JP to be like as like passionate, about as passionate
as he was.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, it was both of them were like die hard hunters,
like they love hunting.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
JP had two bows and he had every gizmo you
could have for that. Yeah, it was like it was awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
So JP shot a turkey when I was with him,
and that bow was just silent.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, dude, we were shooting out in the yard and
he would shoot and it'd be like the arrow hitting
the target would be louder than.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
The bow man's crazy shoutout. Man, you got to do
some hunting though while we're there.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I sure did, dude. I wasn't even really expect Casey
was like, you want to do some hunting, Like when
we were leaving, he was like, yeah your bow. I
was like sure, yeah, I'll hunt. And when you know,
I'm a camera guy, like at the end of the day,
I love hunting and I would love to hunt all
the time, but the job is to be a camera guy,
that's right, And so I wasn't really expecting to hunt.
(05:55):
And then like the second day they were like you
want to hunt? I was like I gonna say know
to that. So I was pretty much third on the
Totem pole though, because obviously we wanted the two guys
who don't get to hunt as much to shoot the deer,
and uh so I was pretty much just making any
spot I could work with the wind. And you know,
(06:17):
the first couple of days didn't go too well. I
I was on the same spot and kept getting messed
up by pretty much the same thing, just on opposite
Like the thermals would get me, and then the thermals
sinking would get tricky everywhere, especially up It's really tricky
there because I don't know if you know where it is,
(06:38):
but it is literally in a bowl, like it's in
a bowl, and then a pond comes in from the
south side. So thermals are weird in that.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
The deer are going to take advantage of thermals going
in there. Every single times.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's pretty much every time the sun would get up,
like the sun would come over the hills and it
would start heating up the little valley like it's not
really a value but little valley, And as soon as
the sun would get up and that started happened, you
would start smelling the pond. No matter what wind it was,
you'd start smelling the pond and then a deer would blow.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
But so you did have some success I did. That
happened up never mind keep going.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
That happened on an overcast day, so the deer couldn't
really take advantage of a rising thermal because it wasn't
heating up like nearly as fast as it needed to
to like make the thermal rise up the drawl. So
I was sitting there, and I'm telling you what, dude,
I was really trying to stay off my phone, but
some of those mornings were just real slow. So I
(07:40):
was sitting there. I wasn't on my phone, but I
was just daydreaming, like just staring out in the space,
and I just see a dough head just hop over
a fence and I'm like, I'm like, it like wakes
me up out of the day dream, and I'm like,
oh no, it's about to go down because he's she's
coming from a weird like just ran over a highway
and is walking down a ridge straight at the feeder
(08:03):
and where I'm at, and I'm like, oh, well, there's
no way they're gonna smell me. And then I see
like four more heads pop over the hill. So I'm
like sitting there and I'm self filming, so I'm like
getting the camera like set up, I'm not. I got
a little bit of footage up where they are, but
at the end of the day, I'm trying to just
frame up where I think they're gonna end up. Cause
when you're self filming and it's on the ground and
(08:26):
there's six pairs of eyes, you kind of know you're
not gonna be able to get away with much, Like
it's almost impossible. I'm eye level pretty much where I
am set up. It is a pretty good little hole
like cover wise, but it uh, I'm eye level, So
I'm like, man, I'm not gonna be able to get
away with much. And the first thing that steps in
is just this giant, square body dough and I'm like,
(08:49):
oh please, but she like walks straight at me, and
I'm like, I'm not taking a twenty seven like the
feeders at twenty seven. I'm not taking a twenty seven
yard fronte at this point in the season, and on
a do it's just not worth it. I'll just wait
for my shot and out of nowhere, it just freaks out,
just runs away, never see her again, and I'm like, Okay, well,
(09:10):
next dough that pops in is getting shot. Because I
see a four key coming down the hill. I'm like,
I don't want to shoot a small buck and I
uh so he jumps in starts feeding around and I'm
like okay, and then a dough just pops out of
nowhere just right over the hill comes in, and I'm like,
that's the one. She's getting it. She's getting shot right now.
(09:32):
So she walks in and she's perfectly broadside and I
go to draw. I draw my bow and it hits
a twig and just snaps it because it's just like
this like little I don't even know what type of bush,
just the tiniest little bush right in front of me,
and it just snaps the twig off when I draw,
and she looks right at me but doesn't really care.
It goes back to feeding and like kind of I'm
(09:53):
telling you, the hole I was in was real good
if I didn't snap that, but I had no idea,
but I So that happens, and I'm at full draw
at this point, and she they're like they put their
heads back down, but she's still kind of quarter in
two with but the shoulders like back.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So I'm like I can't shoot there, so I'm just
I'm literally just sitting there full draw, just like just
holding it at the angle that I can hold it at.
And finally she opens that shoulder up and it's still
a quarter two, but I squeeze it like, I'm like
I can fit it in there. Yeah, and I shoot
(10:30):
and it hits her. I think it hits her pretty good,
but it's a like not a full pass through, like
there's a good amount of arrow still hanging out the
other side. So I'm I call Tyler. I'm like, I mean,
I think I heard jess ad Bob. I think she's
gonna be dead right up there on the hill because
I saw her run up on the hill and like
just stop and then I I was about to shoot
(10:51):
another deer. I got another arrow on and just didn't
look back up there. But all that to say, she
was absolutely toast. Like I looked at the footage and
I was I called Tyler back. I was like, she's done.
She's gonna be up there on the hill dead. You
smoked her, Yeah, And so I wait for Tyler and
(11:12):
as he's coming in, he absolutely is just wanting to
shoot Quail. So he's like he asked me. He's like, dude,
I could tell he felt bad. He was was like, dude,
I can I can I just go jump these quail?
Can I just go walk this out and try to
jump a quail? And I'm like, dude, she's I'm pretty
sure she's gonna be. She's either dead up there or
(11:33):
she went across the road. So those are the two options.
We have. Just go jump some quail. So as he's
coming down, shoots quail, missed couple, but they are going
out low and fast, so it's whatever. But we walk
up on it and it's, uh, it's not a dope. No, no.
As soon as I look up on it, it is
a nubbing buck and immediately felt horrible.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well it sounds like you have an her nickname.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, it's no longer Spike.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
That's not good.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Spike.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Dude. I was so happy that I just smoked this
year and then walk up on it and just immediately realized, no, Michael,
you're still an idiot. Like you did a good you
made a good shot this time.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
But first element kills, so congrats. Yeah, shooting deer is fun.
We got some meat we got to cut up, so yeah,
for sure, man, so today's podcast. This is something we're
gonna do a lot next year, but we're gonna start
one with this duce it this year.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So you guys probably remember Tyler and Casey used to
do big buck breakdowns and we're essentially going to be
doing that again on the White Tail Bums series or
whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Honorary bum Yeah, it's gonna be joining us.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Hey, that's a yeah, that's where we're gonna start calling it.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So, my buddy Chris Carter from.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Back home in Illinois.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Thought his name is Carter.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Chris Carter is his last name, so we call him Carter.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Just call him Carter though. Yeah, God, it's just that's
something we've always done. Two first names, man.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
But me and Chris go way back, Like we worked
at a furniture store in like twenty ten or eleven.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You have any commercials from the furniture store.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Not like case but.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
We need to figure out, but they would be a
good day to post that, like, make a reel of
it and post it.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Let's do it, all right, let's do it after this
so someone will make it reel. But uh, me and
Chris worked at a furniture store. And that's like when
I started getting interested in hunting, and he had been
hunting most of his life. And he's from Georgia but
moved to Illinois, and we used to geek out every
day about hunting and he's taught me a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
But he also bailed us out on a Turkey trip
last year. He did because I broke a very expensive
mic handle uh huh.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
And he just so happened to have a mic for
so we could.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Not find a mic within like sixty miles of where
we were coming, and he drove to a Walmart and
gave us one of the mics.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You guys U see use on your old YouTube channel.
That's right, but he yeah, the dear guys gonna check
it out. But Carter, like I said, he's taught me
a lot, and he has a pretty cool story about
a buck he just shot with the muzzleoader And.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So Muoader, I know nothing about what we're about to
talk about, So this is gonna be it's story timed.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It's a really good story. So we're take a break
and get him on real quick. All right, I got
(14:50):
my buddy Chris Carter on the phone.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Now, what's up, dude?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
What've been up to?
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Not much, man, just uh hunting some Illinois public and
a couple of times going down to the farm, which
you're familiar with.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yes, sir, dude, I was telling everyone how we go
way back and started like twenty ten or eleven. We
were working at a furniture store and we used to
geek out almost every day about deer hunting.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Yeah, those were those were good times, and both of
us have definitely come a long way since those times.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Do you guys think is your favorite piece of furniture
as the professionals here?
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Man, do you remember that old sectional that used to
be like seven hundred pounds?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yeah, we would have.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
To we would that one. That one we'd have to
move like every two or three months.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
From upstairs because on this on this old rickety handmade elevator.
Uh that was yeah, that was a good one, the
old action.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Dude, And those were some good days.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
What was the best seller?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, what was the best They sold a lot of mattresses.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I feel like, like mattresses all over really, but it
was a small place in Illinois, and like they would
sell the places in like, uh, like California. It seemed
like right that was the Furthest They.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Went Chicago, A lot people would come down because of
the brands they carry, Yeah, and got I mean you
drive by it and you would think the place is
going to be like condemned.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
I mean it was made out of old like grain
bind metal.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
Yeah yeah, but those daylight daylight and through some of
the walls right behind my section for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
But yeah, dude, that's where like the white Tail boom
life really started.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I feel that's where you said twenty ten.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, I think so right. It was around that time.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
I had to be because I think I got married
and well I got married in twenty twelve. Yeah, yeah,
so yeah, it was yeah, twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I wasn't even out of elementary school.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So I mean over the years, we've always just you know,
kept in touch and hung out when we get the chance,
and just I've always you know, kept each other updated
on our seasons. And this year you've had a pretty
crazy story and one with history you've had with a deer.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Yeah, it kind of goes back to.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
Twenty twenty one, I think is the that's the the
Furthest back. I could find trail camera pictures of this book,
and I almost want to say that I think I
saw him in twenty COVID year, but can't. I can't
be for sure, but definitely, yeah, twy twenty one.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
So and you've had encounters with them. I think this
is was this the buck that where he walked up
behind you and was like within ten yards?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Because I remember, yea, so that one.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Yeah, so no, that that one was on public That
was uh, that's the one that took me.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
This one. I was looking actually back through some of
our texts and because.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
I wanted to know the exact date. You and I
were talking on October thirty. First, you had a good
day in the stand.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I think you had two or three shooter bucks come
in on you real close.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, and look at you.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
That was yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I remember that that was Texas Pokeland. It was Halloween.
I think, yeah, yeah, it's a good day.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
I told you that there was a stand that I
haven't hunted yet or it's been years, because the biggest
deer I ever I ever saw or shot at out
of that stand, I completely missed him his target panic
ripped it right over his back, right and he neted one.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Sixty eight and.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
The yeah, and then I see pictures of the neighbor
with the deal. It's like, man, that deer looks really familiar,
and it's like, oh no, no.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
No kidding.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Yeah, So I hadn't been in that stand since then,
you know, just I was mad. I even before that one,
I had missed two other bucks that were they would
have been my biggest they would have been upper one thirties,
low one forties type bucks.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
And so I've missed three deer out of that same stand.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
And so it's always it's an awesome stand, you know, right,
it's an awesome stand, but it no one.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
The kind of bad kind of juju it comes.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
With it, yeah, you know, like yeah, it's like I
could just I'd much rather just see him in an
open field two hundred yards away, and like, hey, that
was cool.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
But anyway, you know, you and I were talking about that,
and then.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
That's where I actually so the first time I ever
saw that the buck real quick. It was my first
hunt ever with a saddle, and it was actually a
year old saddle, and he came he came up behind me,
and maybe that's what you were talking about.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
He came up.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Yeah, I saw his reflection in the pond, and dude,
I mean that was the first year I stopped filming.
I didn't have my camera or nothing. It was one
of the prettiest pictures I'd seen. And so I guessed
him at three and a half and he was at,
you know, right about that fifteen yards like you said.
(20:40):
And then I'm like, well, you know, not really what
I was looking for. But he's a good year and
I could tell he was young. So he walks off
and then he stops broadside on the other side of
the pond at forty yards, and I.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Mean he looked even better over there, and because one
because he's walking away, but too it's like, okay, you
know he's he's going to be something.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
And I haven't seen them until.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Uh when was that? That would have been.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
November fifth, So back in the yes, I'm back. I
decide you after you know you and I talk, I'm like,
the wind was perfect. I love this area essentially kind
of crick Bottom. But and then I rich that you're
looking at. It's a big dough betting area, and the
bucks just cut the trails, look, you know, checking for them.
(21:32):
They don't have to get up in that area. They
can they can stay low. And I've always done you know,
I've had. I've seen some nice years, so that's where
I decided to go first time in, you know, and
I'm like reliving all of the mistakes and I'm not
seeing anything and no does nothing. So it's probably nine
(21:57):
fifteen something like that, and uh, I look up and
I can see a deer coming from the dough bedding
area and it's just kind of taking his time.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
He's it's facing me, and I.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Can tell that, you know, it's like shoulders are kind
of broad, and I'm like, it's got to be it
buck and he picks his head up. And the one
thing about this deer is he's got like a fallen
spot in the middle of his face, and his muzzle
is black.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
It's like a black stripe.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
And so it you know, in the woods, a white
spot in the middle of something black, it sticks out,
you know. And I knew him as as soon as
I see it. I was like, no, way, that's him.
And you know, so I'm like heart is just thumping, yeah,
looking out through my monocular so you know, he's he's
(22:48):
up on he's probably within like seventy yards and he
is just taking his time.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
He's just eating.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
He's eating, like sugar maple, like picking the green light
leaves off of the briers and all this. And so
he starts to come down the hill and I've got
I've had my bow in my hand.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
You know, once I realized it was him.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
I didn't need to keep looking at him through the
binoculars because I knew I knew what he was. And
so he's kind of coming down this ridge and then
he kind of turns around and starts going back up,
and he's flicking his tail as he's going. I'm like, well,
that's cool.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
I guess I you know, I would have never guessed
he'd be over here.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, I've got his trail.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
His pictures are only coming from two spots, and it's
on like a brushing fence row. And you know, it
was just on a whim that he was over there.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
But you know, so, uh, he kind.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Of turns back around and he comes back in and
so the whole time he's coming and I'm obviously this
is it's it's probably for him to move five yards.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
I bet he's taken ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Wow, I mean he's just yeah. No, Ken feels like forever.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
You know, and I think I told you I found
I felt like I was in his bedroom because he
was just man. He didn't have a care in the world.
He wasn't chasing doses. Nober November fifth, he wasn't chasing does.
He wasn't he didn't work. There's two scrapes that I
could see, and he didn't care about either.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
One of those. He was just eating and so he
felt comfortable, and I just felt like that was where
he was living, or close to right.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
And so anyway, he ends up coming in and out
of the same area, not.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Cutting more than fifty yards, and I had him.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Quartering away at one point at fifty and he was,
you know, the head down, just eating, and I'm like,
I can I know I can make that shot, but
I just didn't.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
I knew this.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
He kind of was wanting to go a certain way,
and I knew when he would because I'd missed three
other year before them. Before out of that, when he
gets to this one tree, it's thirty two yards, and
I was like, I would much rather I want a
thirty two yard shot on this buck broadside than a
fifty yard shot ordering away.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
And so when he.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Turned around that last time, uh, he went up and
I'm like, Okay, he's gone, you know, forever now, and
I hung my bow, you know, kind of without making
too much noise, but I definitely slammed it down on
the bow holder and.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Got a frustration.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Frustration.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
I'm like, you know, fifty yards quartering away, you know,
and no one I can make the shot, like you know,
you only get so many opportunities, and I felt like
I let that one go, even though I wanted a
different shot, and you know, so you know, I was
kind of kind of patent. But then I can remember,
and which is crazy. I said out loud, what does
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the chance that he comes back?
Speaker 5 (25:49):
And I kid you not, I kid you not.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Eric, I couldn't finish the word or the sentence, and
I can see the legs glow, you know, So I'm
I'm turning into yeah, dude, I'm turning in the stand.
That bow is that boat was ready, and now he's
kind of coming with more of like a a mission
going to that spot. You know, He's he's not taking
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his time, He's he's moving real quick. And so I
come to full draw because I know he was coming
through and stop him and he kind of gets his
head wrapped up and there's a vine and some briers
that were connected. Well, his antlers kind of get caught
in it, and he's shaking this thing around. So when
I grunt, you know, mouth grun him to stop, and
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I feel like I'm holding good. He's quartering to just
a little bit. I let the arrow go and it
hits him high and it like kind of kicks as
it hit.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Like the angle that I shot.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
My knock was like like I you know, it was
like facing the opposite way. It just hitting beard, and
I'm wondering if I didn't hit that vine swinging, you know, yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Or something, because it just didn't make makes sense.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
And this is the same arrow, you know, a couple
of years ago I killed anil on a forty five
yard from.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
You know, same same shot.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Yeah, and I got twenty seven inches of penetration on it,
and it's I should yeah, I shoot an inch and
a half sever you know, two blade mechanical. It's a
four hundred and eighty grain arrow, and this thing it
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maybe got to the end of the Pharaoh of the
broadhead man, you know. And so then I'm i, you know,
send up a text like hey man, I think you
were the first one I texted. Look at shot the
buck that I've been wanting, you know, and uh so.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, yeah, I can.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I remember just being excited that you shot when I
was like, man, I hope he finds it because I knew, like,
it's been a few years since you've shot a good buck.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Right, yeah, especially with my bow. I mean I.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Shot a good one in twenty and twenty one with
my muzzle loader.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
That was a fun hunt. But he it's been it's
been probably four years since I shot one with my bow.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, And so, how what happened after you shot there?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
You texted me.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
You probably waited a little bit then, huh, I.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Did, so I texted, you know, I texted you, and
then I texted, you know, my father in law.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
And I said, hey, shot him. I don't think it's
going to be good.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
I want to give him time. So I took my
time getting down. We get back to the cabin and
right to the house and.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
We're talking it over and it just, you know, I
just knew it just didn't feel right, you know, the
way he ran away seeing the arrow.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
I'm just like, man, you know, hope you know fingers
crossed that something weird happened, and and more, I was like, well,
maybe I got more than what I did, and it
just hit a bone. It kind of bounced back, you know,
and my eyes.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Couldn't pick it up.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
And so we waited about three hours, I think, and
found blood right away.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
It was better at in the beginning than I thought
it was going to be, but it was. We we covered.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
And it's probably three hundred three hundred and fifty yards probably,
you know, And it got to a point where the
first one hundred yards was really good blood, not really good,
but good blood.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Better than I like I said, better than I thought.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
And then after that hundred yards it was like pin
drops and every I don't know, ten feet fifteen feet
something like that and not really no, and never found
my arrow.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
So we're coming up and I can see the edge
of the field.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
It was. I basically shot him on one end, one
field edge kind of, and he ran to this straight across.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
I shot him west of this block.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Of timber, and he ran to the east side of it,
and uh, he was on the very edge.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
And as I'm coming up this ridge, I'm.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
At this point, I'm just trying to do a body,
you know, just to see if I can see him
laying somewhere or something. And because the blood stops, it
just eventually it just it just stopped, and I could
get to the edge man and I see him stand up,
and of course his his rack is skylit, you know,
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and it's.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Just like.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Thinking about that tree again.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
And yeah, and uh, I wanted to pull my hair out.
And he runs off. He runs off, and he's not
limped in, he's not not doing anything.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
He runs off like a normal deer, you know, like
a like a healthy deer.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Man.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
And so I meet up with my father in law
and I was like, oh, did you see him? And
he goes, no.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
I was like, well, he ran, you know, he's running
kind of your your way, and he goes, I never
did it. It's super thick over where we were. But
I said, he's he's looks fine, you know man.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
And so that was it. So then I had that
that car ride.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
You know, it's an hour and fifteen minutes from the
farm to my house.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
There was no music. There was.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Oh man, it's just a terrible feeling. But a few
was a few weeks went by and you went back out.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Yeah, the very next day, Yeah, the very next day,
my my wife's cousin was something a different part of
the farm, and he goes, hey, was this buck and
he starts describing it and I'm like, well, that sounds
like him. I mean, there's you know, he's chocolate racked white,
he's got a spot in the middle of his face, you.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Know, and all that. And he goes, dude, he's out,
he's out eating in the clover.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
And he goes he's living a little bit, but he
doesn't look bad. And I said, cool.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
You know, I figured that was they. That was it.
I was going to find him dead when because I
was going.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
To look hard for sheds or you know, if he
you know, for him. But I figured that was it.
So then it's second Illinois shotgun season. I can't remember
what day that was.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
December second, I think, which was like a.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Saturday, and I only had a day and so I
hunted that same stand just out of you know, like man,
hopefully he comes.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
So your shotgun or muzzleloader.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Muzzleloader you can use? I can I can use my
muzzleloader during the shotgun season.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Go ahead?
Speaker 5 (32:45):
No? No?
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Yeah, So I didn't see anything in the morning or no,
I think that back I passed a really nice three
year old and I had a few pictures of him,
and it was actually I would.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Be lying if I said it wasn't hard to passn't,
but I did.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
And the evening I kinda was looking at my options
and I'm eating, I'm eating lunch, and I get to
the spot where I think I'm going to go and
I'm eating lunch, just kind of hanging out. I don't
want to go back to the house and do all
that because I knew I wanted to be out early,
and I knew if I went to the house, I'd take.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
A nap and take my time getting out, you know,
screw some enough.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
So I'm looking at it, I'm getting all my gear
together and I'm getting ready to I'm like locking the
jeep everything, and I'm like, notice the wind is like absolutely,
couldn't be more wrong for this stand I'm going. But
there was a we had a buck on camera that
was coming out in daylight, so that's the kind of
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why I was over. There was warm, like fifty some
so this was another Clover Clover plot, and it's like, Okay, well,
you know it's my best bet. But then as i'm
you know, like I said, I'm standing, there's like this
is terrible. I mean, there's nothing. I blow everything out
of the woods. So last minute decision, I go to
this spot and it was actually one of the spots
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where I've been getting pictures of this buck all summer.
And it's a cut corn field. Stuff stuff is still
left in And so I sat there, you know, all afternoon,
and I only saw it's coming at like four o'clock.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
And at about that time, I think I can I
think legal shooting time ends at five.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
And about that time, I see a buck in the
woods coming behind me and then kind of just like
skirt out of the way. I never really get a
good look at him, and I'm like.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Well, you know, that's going to be the only one
I see.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
And so my wife texts me and she says, our
sun is throwing up every fifteen minutes. And he's been
sick before, but you know, usually like a half hour
to an hour, but like every fifteen minutes, that's that's bad.
So I'm like, I'm gonna I'm just gonna get down.
(35:08):
I you know, it was fun. I got to see
a nice buck, you know, and I was I was
at the farm by myself, just kind of those days
are kind of nice, you know, hunt with people, but
it's also nice to hunt by yourself. And so, you know,
I'm getting everything lowered and I'm walking out, so there's
(35:30):
still plenty of light. You know, We're talking like a
half hour, and uh, as I'm coming to this edge,
I can see a deer with his head down.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
He's kind of behind the little hill.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
It's kind of like a it's not a super flat field,
there's some topography to it.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
And he's on the back.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Side of this and so I put my gun down
and you know, actually slide my backpack off because I,
like I said, I was irritated, but you know whatever,
and I'm looking and he picks his head up and
I'm like, oh, that's a nice and I'm looking. I's
like he's standing in the middle of this field and
I've got the wind in my favor, and I'm like,
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what's it gonna hurt? You know, I'm either gonna get
a chance or I'm gonna mess this up real bad.
And it's new only deer in the field, you know.
So I am going And so as soon as he
puts his head down, I think I take a layer off.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
I'm in the woods looking at him I'm not out
in the open. I take a.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
Layer off back down, and I get on my hands
and knees, and I'm like, you know, crawling putting the
gun out in front of me, taking a couple of
steps or crawling you know, a couple feet and then
sliding it. And I was thinking he was probably two
hundred and fifty yards in this field ish, And I
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notice at one point I can see the Times coming
over this hill, and.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
I'm like, dang it, you know now now.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
So I get ready and I pull a hammer back
on the muzzleoder and I'm looking in the first shot
he gives me I'm taking and but then I kind
of see him, you know, stop, and I never see
his head. I just see the tips of him and
then turn around and start going downhill. So I, you know,
put the hammer back down, and I get up and
I sprint as fast as I can. Yeah, where you're
(37:25):
like crouched over, like throwing your back out.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Of the pain you'll feel in the woods, do.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
That, oh man? Yeah, And binoculars bouncing all over the place.
And so I stand up and he's quartering away. I
stand up, hammer back, and I'm looking and I also zoom.
I got a My scope is like three to seven
or something like that, so it's in all the way.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
I couldn't hold steady on him for.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
Nothing, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Starting to squeeze.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
I'm starting to squeeze, you know, and I'm like, eventually,
you know, it's like I'm gonna try to do a
surprise shot and it's gonna break where I want it to.
But I'm like, dude, there's no way, no way. So
I let it down and I'm looking at him, and
he starts kind of walking away. He never sees me.
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So I take that time. I get back down on
my hands and knees, and I cover another probably thirty yards.
So at this point I think I arranged him. Later
he was about sixty yards. And so then before I
stand up, I'm taking deep breasts just to calm myself,
and I just kind of ease up, and I wrap
my hand through the sling hammer, back looking at him,
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and I keep drifting left and right, so I'm going
into his neck, then back to his butt, and then
as it's coming back, I squeezed and the course muzzleoder
it's just all you know, powder, it's just all smoke.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
And then so I don't.
Speaker 6 (38:52):
I'm I'm looking like as soon as I shoot, as
soon as it breaks, I'm looking left and right because
I'm thinking he's gonna either go to this pond, he's
going back to the woods smoke clears, and I'm like,
what in the heck?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
You know, It's like it's like, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Yeah, I'm like, I can't see anything, you know, And
I'm like, I take a couple of steps and I'm like,
oh wait, you know, there's that looks like a belly,
but it could be a cornstalk, you know.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
And I'm I'm walking up, you.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
Know a little bit more, and I'm like, dang, no way,
and so you know, it's just like a deer.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
And I, you know, it was like it's a good
it's a good deer. Yeah. And I'm I think I
texted you.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
I hadn't even got to him yet, and I.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
I think or I texted somebody and I was just
sending them pictures.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
As I got closer, it was just a white a
white belly, and you know, I think it was actually
my father in law.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
And he goes, what am I supposed to be looking at? Pension? Zoom?
You know, that's all I kept saying.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
Well, I get to you know, about third yards from
him and or something like that, and I've looked at
enough of his trail camera pictures that his one side
is a four point side and I just immediately liked.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
And I, you know, like, there is no way that
is him.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
And so I haven't even I haven't got up onto
him yet, and so I walk around at the back
side and in the top of one of his shoulders,
I can see a hole in tusk coming out, and
I was like, oh my Josh, like, never had that
kind of feeling like that, you know, I mean as
far as like redemption or anything, you know, the most
(40:47):
I guess successful I've ever felt because when I shot
my help, That's something I've always wanted to do as
a kid. Yeah, elp Elk was like, man, I might
only get one chance to do it, and I figured
it was through an.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Outfitter, and I when I got him, you know, it
just would have never guessed. But this one, this one felt.
Speaker 6 (41:10):
Different, just because I mean, I know, I know I
texted you, and I don't want it to sound bad,
but I felt when I when he came in, you know,
that first time I had the experience with him and
I shot him at him, you know, hit him with
my low I was like, you know, I said, I
felt like it was I was meant to get.
Speaker 8 (41:29):
Him, you know, yeah, for sure, which is the It's
weird to say, but dude, I mean I don't ever
get chances that read is with with hardly anything.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
Yeah, I mean life or let alone hunting.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
I never you know, I don't know how many deer
that are I've hunted, you know, at the farm. You know,
I've showed you pictures of him, and you know, the
neighbor ends up getting them. And I'm always happy. I
love people. I love seeing the deer that I've you know, chasing,
But man, this one just everything about it is like
(42:05):
it was meant to be some ways.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
So I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Just man, one, it was a grace from God for sure.
I mean that what a crazy story.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
Yeah yeah, and uh man, so yeah, he you know,
he's nine nine points, super like. His mask is awesome
throughout his twenty eight I think twenty and three eights
on one being twenty one and three eighths on the other.
He's super symmetrical. I actually taped him last night and
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he was low one forties.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah dude, he yeah, like you said, he's got that
chocolate rack too. It's a good little tuk.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Have you posted on your Instagram yet?
Speaker 5 (42:53):
No? I haven't, just because I you know, I don't.
I don't know why.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
I was kind of kind of mad that I didn't
have I mean, all the pictures that I have, you know,
like the recovery photos.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Man, I was out there by myself. I didn't have
my camera, no tripod.
Speaker 6 (43:10):
I'm I'm sticking my phone in one of the pockets
of my backpack and then like setting like a timer
and like running running around behind.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Him to hold them up. Yeah. I will though, post.
I'll post the pictures.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
So if you guys want to see pictures of that,
go follow Chris. He was a Chrity Underscore, Carter Underscore
twenty one, something like that, Tom from time time.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
But yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Thanks for coming on here though and sharing that story
with this man.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Crazy.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
Yeah, man, I appreciate being all and I I've talked
about this deer a lot and man, I hope to
hope to do it again.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Next for sure.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Again, congrats, Thanks dude. Well, that was a crazy story,
like I said, and uh, hopefully we'll bring you doing
the more of these next year.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
So if you guys like it, you know, wait wait
wait wait, Before we end this, there's a thing a
lot of Texans don't understand, and it's something I really
want to emphasize that what's that Chris talked about a
little bit. When you shoot that muzzle, oh yeah, and
the smoke covers up the deer, you will never feel
your eyes going like side to side, just like where's
(44:36):
he going, Where's he going? Where's he going? Where's he going?
Speaker 5 (44:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Yeah, I know nothing about that.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Like Texas, there's I mean, I think there's some muzzle
over seasons some in East Texas or something. But yeah, dude,
I've it's been rifle on.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Why wouldn't you use no reason to But like it
is seriously like it's probably a good three or four
seconds that you are just like like your heart is
just like, what's going on? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening?
It is so awesome.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Let me ask you this, whins Ohio's muzzleoder season.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
That's a great question. You need to be I believe
it's the first week of January, and I may need
to have the boomstick in Ohio some permission, Dear, I
think you should do. I might have a plan already, sweet.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
But like I said earlier, Greg has a video out
right now, so be sure to go check that out.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
Yeah, there's lots of lots of bucks in that video.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Ude.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
For whatever reason, I got to hunt like the best
days of the year at that.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, that's a good thing about having three camera guys
and two guys who hunt like mainly because.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
One can be hunting and making some content exactly.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
But the season's not over yet.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
There, they got a trip ahead of them, and then
we may have some more hunting to do after the
new year.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
We might have to go back to dearly. So I've
seen some came.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
If we don't have another white Tail Bums before Christmas
though everyone. Hopefully everyone has a good Christmas and happy Holidays.
We'll see you next time.
I'm Eric, I'm Michael, and I'm Greg and this is
white Tail Bombes. Welcome back to white Tail Bombs everyone.
This is your favorite series on the Element Channel.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's better than the main one.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, it's way better than Tyler Casey.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You know. I'm Eric.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We got Michael and Greg here in the white Tail
Palace right now, all these dead dud Dude, we're on
a little bit of a break right now. We've just
been traveling around a ton, but you guys have one
more trip ahead of you before.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We hit the holidays. Yeah, dude, we're going to the
land where you can only take steps on rocks.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
In a Yeah, South Texas not is not very good
for spotting stalk.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
No, it is pretty loud, dude.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
It's probably the hardest place I filmed that. That New
Mexican mule Deer we went on was a pretty tough place.
But that was more because like keeping up with batteries
and having to use the sun a lot is.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Not Yeah, your camping is not easy.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And you're at ten thousand feet where storms just seemed
to start every single day. I mean every day we'd
have like about two o'clock it would rain every day.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Not to mention there's every kind of needle in that
country that I'll find you.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, dude, there's stuff I've never even dreamed of. What
is it jumping?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I've heard it called dog chola, dog jola, But that stuff, man,
it looks like grass when you're walking.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And apparently there's monkeys down there too, right, that's what Mark, there's.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Monkeys down there.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
So dude, I never saw really what he was talking about,
but I'm pretty sure it's a porkypine. Are the porcupines
down there?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Maybe it?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Ah? I definitely didn't see monkey, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know what he saw.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But if you haven't watched it yet, Greg has a
hunt on the YouTube channel.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, new video out and the time Casey let me
hunt for a little bit and got to take advantage
of it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
So you absolutely smoked that, dude, absolutely smoked it.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I thought I shot a little low because like I'm
used to shooting a really slow yeh bow, and like
at the shot was like fifteen yards, and so like
with a slower bow, like at fifteen yards, you're gonna
shooting a little high with your twenty yard pen.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, and with that bow it's like it shoots flat.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah. Remember in South Dakota, me and Casey set up
in a spot where like the shots were at five yards,
ten yards, and then fifty yards, and I remember asking
k C. I was like at ten yards, like how
low do I need to aim? And he was like, dude,
don't even worry, Like with these bows, you do not
need to worry about it that much, just as long
as just put your pen where it needs to go.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
And top to the city.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, we were just on a trip with JP France
of the Houston Astros and Ley McNasty, who is a
freaking funny dude.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
That dude is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
He like everybody says this and when they meet somebody
from the internet, it's like they're the exact same human
as they are on Instagram. He's pretty much the exact
same human.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
He's that times ten.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, I mean it's like kind of overboard, how like
he's just being himself in those videos, Like it's not
even like he's acting.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
In some of those skits, and it's all day long.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
He does not stop.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
The first day he got there, while like we went
to bed like forty five minutes before he got there,
so we didn't really meet him. He just walked into
the house past me and bumming it and uh, so
we didn't really meet him. And then the first morning,
I like when out to the garage to change and
he was in the kitchen when I came back and
he was just making away. Dude, we don't even know
(04:07):
each other right now.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
And then we had JP, who uh I can't remember.
He started following me or I followed him, and we
kind of like I realized he was using cruiser saddles
and he was shooting vector arrows at the time, and
so we kind of start browing it out and messaging
each other. And he was in the Miners at this time.
(04:31):
And this past year he got called up to the
Astros and uh pitched in the World Series this year
and we got to bring him along. He absolutely just
annihilate the Cardinals this year.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Talk about best pictures this year.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
So he uh, we brought him along with us and
that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Hopefully, you don't really know what to expect. I feel
like I've I've been hunted with many baseball players, actually
only one, but I feel like I wasn't expect think
JP to be like as like passionate, about as passionate
as he was.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, it was both of them were like die hard hunters,
like they love hunting.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
JP had two bows and he had every gizmo you
could have for that. Yeah, it was like it was awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
So JP shot a turkey when I was with him,
and that bow was just silent.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, dude, we were shooting out in the yard and
he would shoot and it'd be like the arrow hitting
the target would be louder than.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
The bow man's crazy shoutout. Man, you got to do
some hunting though while we're there.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I sure did, dude. I wasn't even really expect Casey
was like, you want to do some hunting, Like when
we were leaving, he was like, yeah your bow. I
was like sure, yeah, I'll hunt. And when you know,
I'm a camera guy, like at the end of the day,
I love hunting and I would love to hunt all
the time, but the job is to be a camera guy,
that's right, And so I wasn't really expecting to hunt.
(05:55):
And then like the second day they were like you
want to hunt? I was like I gonna say know
to that. So I was pretty much third on the
Totem pole though, because obviously we wanted the two guys
who don't get to hunt as much to shoot the deer,
and uh so I was pretty much just making any
spot I could work with the wind. And you know,
(06:17):
the first couple of days didn't go too well. I
I was on the same spot and kept getting messed
up by pretty much the same thing, just on opposite
Like the thermals would get me, and then the thermals
sinking would get tricky everywhere, especially up It's really tricky
there because I don't know if you know where it is,
(06:38):
but it is literally in a bowl, like it's in
a bowl, and then a pond comes in from the
south side. So thermals are weird in that.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
The deer are going to take advantage of thermals going
in there. Every single times.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's pretty much every time the sun would get up,
like the sun would come over the hills and it
would start heating up the little valley like it's not
really a value but little valley, And as soon as
the sun would get up and that started happened, you
would start smelling the pond. No matter what wind it was,
you'd start smelling the pond and then a deer would blow.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
But so you did have some success I did. That
happened up never mind keep going.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
That happened on an overcast day, so the deer couldn't
really take advantage of a rising thermal because it wasn't
heating up like nearly as fast as it needed to
to like make the thermal rise up the drawl. So
I was sitting there, and I'm telling you what, dude,
I was really trying to stay off my phone, but
some of those mornings were just real slow. So I
(07:40):
was sitting there. I wasn't on my phone, but I
was just daydreaming, like just staring out in the space,
and I just see a dough head just hop over
a fence and I'm like, I'm like, it like wakes
me up out of the day dream, and I'm like,
oh no, it's about to go down because he's she's
coming from a weird like just ran over a highway
and is walking down a ridge straight at the feeder
(08:03):
and where I'm at, and I'm like, oh, well, there's
no way they're gonna smell me. And then I see
like four more heads pop over the hill. So I'm
like sitting there and I'm self filming, so I'm like
getting the camera like set up, I'm not. I got
a little bit of footage up where they are, but
at the end of the day, I'm trying to just
frame up where I think they're gonna end up. Cause
when you're self filming and it's on the ground and
(08:26):
there's six pairs of eyes, you kind of know you're
not gonna be able to get away with much, Like
it's almost impossible. I'm eye level pretty much where I
am set up. It is a pretty good little hole
like cover wise, but it uh, I'm eye level, So
I'm like, man, I'm not gonna be able to get
away with much. And the first thing that steps in
is just this giant, square body dough and I'm like,
(08:49):
oh please, but she like walks straight at me, and
I'm like, I'm not taking a twenty seven like the
feeders at twenty seven. I'm not taking a twenty seven
yard fronte at this point in the season, and on
a do it's just not worth it. I'll just wait
for my shot and out of nowhere, it just freaks out,
just runs away, never see her again, and I'm like, Okay, well,
(09:10):
next dough that pops in is getting shot. Because I
see a four key coming down the hill. I'm like,
I don't want to shoot a small buck and I
uh so he jumps in starts feeding around and I'm
like okay, and then a dough just pops out of
nowhere just right over the hill comes in, and I'm like,
that's the one. She's getting it. She's getting shot right now.
(09:32):
So she walks in and she's perfectly broadside and I
go to draw. I draw my bow and it hits
a twig and just snaps it because it's just like
this like little I don't even know what type of bush,
just the tiniest little bush right in front of me,
and it just snaps the twig off when I draw,
and she looks right at me but doesn't really care.
It goes back to feeding and like kind of I'm
(09:53):
telling you, the hole I was in was real good
if I didn't snap that, but I had no idea,
but I So that happens, and I'm at full draw
at this point, and she they're like they put their
heads back down, but she's still kind of quarter in
two with but the shoulders like back.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So I'm like I can't shoot there, so I'm just
I'm literally just sitting there full draw, just like just
holding it at the angle that I can hold it at.
And finally she opens that shoulder up and it's still
a quarter two, but I squeeze it like, I'm like
I can fit it in there. Yeah, and I shoot
(10:30):
and it hits her. I think it hits her pretty good,
but it's a like not a full pass through, like
there's a good amount of arrow still hanging out the
other side. So I'm I call Tyler. I'm like, I mean,
I think I heard jess ad Bob. I think she's
gonna be dead right up there on the hill because
I saw her run up on the hill and like
just stop and then I I was about to shoot
(10:51):
another deer. I got another arrow on and just didn't
look back up there. But all that to say, she
was absolutely toast. Like I looked at the footage and
I was I called Tyler back. I was like, she's done.
She's gonna be up there on the hill dead. You
smoked her, Yeah, And so I wait for Tyler and
(11:12):
as he's coming in, he absolutely is just wanting to
shoot Quail. So he's like he asked me. He's like, dude,
I could tell he felt bad. He was was like, dude,
I can I can I just go jump these quail?
Can I just go walk this out and try to
jump a quail? And I'm like, dude, she's I'm pretty
sure she's gonna be. She's either dead up there or
(11:33):
she went across the road. So those are the two options.
We have. Just go jump some quail. So as he's
coming down, shoots quail, missed couple, but they are going
out low and fast, so it's whatever. But we walk
up on it and it's, uh, it's not a dope. No, no.
As soon as I look up on it, it is
a nubbing buck and immediately felt horrible.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well it sounds like you have an her nickname.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, it's no longer Spike.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
That's not good.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Spike.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Dude. I was so happy that I just smoked this
year and then walk up on it and just immediately realized, no, Michael,
you're still an idiot. Like you did a good you
made a good shot this time.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
But first element kills, so congrats. Yeah, shooting deer is fun.
We got some meat we got to cut up, so yeah,
for sure, man, so today's podcast. This is something we're
gonna do a lot next year, but we're gonna start
one with this duce it this year.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So you guys probably remember Tyler and Casey used to
do big buck breakdowns and we're essentially going to be
doing that again on the White Tail Bums series or
whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Honorary bum Yeah, it's gonna be joining us.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Hey, that's a yeah, that's where we're gonna start calling it.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So, my buddy Chris Carter from.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Back home in Illinois.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Thought his name is Carter.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Chris Carter is his last name, so we call him Carter.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Just call him Carter though. Yeah, God, it's just that's
something we've always done. Two first names, man.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
But me and Chris go way back, Like we worked
at a furniture store in like twenty ten or eleven.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You have any commercials from the furniture store.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Not like case but.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
We need to figure out, but they would be a
good day to post that, like, make a reel of
it and post it.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Let's do it, all right, let's do it after this
so someone will make it reel. But uh, me and
Chris worked at a furniture store. And that's like when
I started getting interested in hunting, and he had been
hunting most of his life. And he's from Georgia but
moved to Illinois, and we used to geek out every
day about hunting and he's taught me a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
But he also bailed us out on a Turkey trip
last year. He did because I broke a very expensive
mic handle uh huh.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
And he just so happened to have a mic for
so we could.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Not find a mic within like sixty miles of where
we were coming, and he drove to a Walmart and
gave us one of the mics.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You guys U see use on your old YouTube channel.
That's right, but he yeah, the dear guys gonna check
it out. But Carter, like I said, he's taught me
a lot, and he has a pretty cool story about
a buck he just shot with the muzzleoader And.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So Muoader, I know nothing about what we're about to
talk about, So this is gonna be it's story timed.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It's a really good story. So we're take a break
and get him on real quick. All right, I got
(14:50):
my buddy Chris Carter on the phone.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Now, what's up, dude?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
What've been up to?
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Not much, man, just uh hunting some Illinois public and
a couple of times going down to the farm, which
you're familiar with.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yes, sir, dude, I was telling everyone how we go
way back and started like twenty ten or eleven. We
were working at a furniture store and we used to
geek out almost every day about deer hunting.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Yeah, those were those were good times, and both of
us have definitely come a long way since those times.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Do you guys think is your favorite piece of furniture
as the professionals here?
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Man, do you remember that old sectional that used to
be like seven hundred pounds?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yeah, we would have.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
To we would that one. That one we'd have to
move like every two or three months.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
From upstairs because on this on this old rickety handmade elevator.
Uh that was yeah, that was a good one, the
old action.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Dude, And those were some good days.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
What was the best seller?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, what was the best They sold a lot of mattresses.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I feel like, like mattresses all over really, but it
was a small place in Illinois, and like they would
sell the places in like, uh, like California. It seemed
like right that was the Furthest They.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Went Chicago, A lot people would come down because of
the brands they carry, Yeah, and got I mean you
drive by it and you would think the place is
going to be like condemned.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
I mean it was made out of old like grain
bind metal.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
Yeah yeah, but those daylight daylight and through some of
the walls right behind my section for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
But yeah, dude, that's where like the white Tail boom
life really started.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I feel that's where you said twenty ten.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, I think so right. It was around that time.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
I had to be because I think I got married
and well I got married in twenty twelve. Yeah, yeah,
so yeah, it was yeah, twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I wasn't even out of elementary school.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So I mean over the years, we've always just you know,
kept in touch and hung out when we get the chance,
and just I've always you know, kept each other updated
on our seasons. And this year you've had a pretty
crazy story and one with history you've had with a deer.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Yeah, it kind of goes back to.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
Twenty twenty one, I think is the that's the the
Furthest back. I could find trail camera pictures of this book,
and I almost want to say that I think I
saw him in twenty COVID year, but can't. I can't
be for sure, but definitely, yeah, twy twenty one.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
So and you've had encounters with them. I think this
is was this the buck that where he walked up
behind you and was like within ten yards?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Because I remember, yea, so that one.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Yeah, so no, that that one was on public That
was uh, that's the one that took me.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
This one. I was looking actually back through some of
our texts and because.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
I wanted to know the exact date. You and I
were talking on October thirty. First, you had a good
day in the stand.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I think you had two or three shooter bucks come
in on you real close.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, and look at you.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
That was yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I remember that that was Texas Pokeland. It was Halloween.
I think, yeah, yeah, it's a good day.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
I told you that there was a stand that I
haven't hunted yet or it's been years, because the biggest
deer I ever I ever saw or shot at out
of that stand, I completely missed him his target panic
ripped it right over his back, right and he neted one.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Sixty eight and.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
The yeah, and then I see pictures of the neighbor
with the deal. It's like, man, that deer looks really familiar,
and it's like, oh no, no.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
No kidding.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Yeah, So I hadn't been in that stand since then,
you know, just I was mad. I even before that one,
I had missed two other bucks that were they would
have been my biggest they would have been upper one thirties,
low one forties type bucks.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
And so I've missed three deer out of that same stand.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
And so it's always it's an awesome stand, you know, right,
it's an awesome stand, but it no one.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
The kind of bad kind of juju it comes.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
With it, yeah, you know, like yeah, it's like I
could just I'd much rather just see him in an
open field two hundred yards away, and like, hey, that
was cool.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
But anyway, you know, you and I were talking about that,
and then.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
That's where I actually so the first time I ever
saw that the buck real quick. It was my first
hunt ever with a saddle, and it was actually a
year old saddle, and he came he came up behind me,
and maybe that's what you were talking about.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
He came up.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Yeah, I saw his reflection in the pond, and dude,
I mean that was the first year I stopped filming.
I didn't have my camera or nothing. It was one
of the prettiest pictures I'd seen. And so I guessed
him at three and a half and he was at,
you know, right about that fifteen yards like you said.
(20:40):
And then I'm like, well, you know, not really what
I was looking for. But he's a good year and
I could tell he was young. So he walks off
and then he stops broadside on the other side of
the pond at forty yards, and I.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Mean he looked even better over there, and because one
because he's walking away, but too it's like, okay, you
know he's he's going to be something.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
And I haven't seen them until.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Uh when was that? That would have been.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
November fifth, So back in the yes, I'm back. I
decide you after you know you and I talk, I'm like,
the wind was perfect. I love this area essentially kind
of crick Bottom. But and then I rich that you're
looking at. It's a big dough betting area, and the
bucks just cut the trails, look, you know, checking for them.
(21:32):
They don't have to get up in that area. They
can they can stay low. And I've always done you know,
I've had. I've seen some nice years, so that's where
I decided to go first time in, you know, and
I'm like reliving all of the mistakes and I'm not
seeing anything and no does nothing. So it's probably nine
(21:57):
fifteen something like that, and uh, I look up and
I can see a deer coming from the dough bedding
area and it's just kind of taking his time.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
He's it's facing me, and I.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Can tell that, you know, it's like shoulders are kind
of broad, and I'm like, it's got to be it
buck and he picks his head up. And the one
thing about this deer is he's got like a fallen
spot in the middle of his face, and his muzzle
is black.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
It's like a black stripe.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
And so it you know, in the woods, a white
spot in the middle of something black, it sticks out,
you know. And I knew him as as soon as
I see it. I was like, no, way, that's him.
And you know, so I'm like heart is just thumping, yeah,
looking out through my monocular so you know, he's he's
(22:48):
up on he's probably within like seventy yards and he
is just taking his time.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
He's just eating.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
He's eating, like sugar maple, like picking the green light
leaves off of the briers and all this. And so
he starts to come down the hill and I've got
I've had my bow in my hand.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
You know, once I realized it was him.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
I didn't need to keep looking at him through the
binoculars because I knew I knew what he was. And
so he's kind of coming down this ridge and then
he kind of turns around and starts going back up,
and he's flicking his tail as he's going. I'm like, well,
that's cool.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
I guess I you know, I would have never guessed
he'd be over here.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, I've got his trail.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
His pictures are only coming from two spots, and it's
on like a brushing fence row. And you know, it
was just on a whim that he was over there.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
But you know, so, uh, he kind.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Of turns back around and he comes back in and
so the whole time he's coming and I'm obviously this
is it's it's probably for him to move five yards.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
I bet he's taken ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Wow, I mean he's just yeah. No, Ken feels like forever.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
You know, and I think I told you I found
I felt like I was in his bedroom because he
was just man. He didn't have a care in the world.
He wasn't chasing doses. Nober November fifth, he wasn't chasing does.
He wasn't he didn't work. There's two scrapes that I
could see, and he didn't care about either.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
One of those. He was just eating and so he
felt comfortable, and I just felt like that was where
he was living, or close to right.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
And so anyway, he ends up coming in and out
of the same area, not.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Cutting more than fifty yards, and I had him.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Quartering away at one point at fifty and he was,
you know, the head down, just eating, and I'm like,
I can I know I can make that shot, but
I just didn't.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
I knew this.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
He kind of was wanting to go a certain way,
and I knew when he would because I'd missed three
other year before them. Before out of that, when he
gets to this one tree, it's thirty two yards, and
I was like, I would much rather I want a
thirty two yard shot on this buck broadside than a
fifty yard shot ordering away.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
And so when he.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Turned around that last time, uh, he went up and
I'm like, Okay, he's gone, you know, forever now, and
I hung my bow, you know, kind of without making
too much noise, but I definitely slammed it down on
the bow holder and.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Got a frustration.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Frustration.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
I'm like, you know, fifty yards quartering away, you know,
and no one I can make the shot, like you know,
you only get so many opportunities, and I felt like
I let that one go, even though I wanted a
different shot, and you know, so you know, I was
kind of kind of patent. But then I can remember,
and which is crazy. I said out loud, what does
(25:48):
the chance that he comes back?
Speaker 5 (25:49):
And I kid you not, I kid you not.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Eric, I couldn't finish the word or the sentence, and
I can see the legs glow, you know, So I'm
I'm turning into yeah, dude, I'm turning in the stand.
That bow is that boat was ready, and now he's
kind of coming with more of like a a mission
going to that spot. You know, He's he's not taking
(26:13):
his time, He's he's moving real quick. And so I
come to full draw because I know he was coming
through and stop him and he kind of gets his
head wrapped up and there's a vine and some briers
that were connected. Well, his antlers kind of get caught
in it, and he's shaking this thing around. So when
I grunt, you know, mouth grun him to stop, and
(26:34):
I feel like I'm holding good. He's quartering to just
a little bit. I let the arrow go and it
hits him high and it like kind of kicks as
it hit.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Like the angle that I shot.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
My knock was like like I you know, it was
like facing the opposite way. It just hitting beard, and
I'm wondering if I didn't hit that vine swinging, you know, yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Or something, because it just didn't make makes sense.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
And this is the same arrow, you know, a couple
of years ago I killed anil on a forty five
yard from.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
You know, same same shot.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Yeah, and I got twenty seven inches of penetration on it,
and it's I should yeah, I shoot an inch and
a half sever you know, two blade mechanical. It's a
four hundred and eighty grain arrow, and this thing it
(27:30):
maybe got to the end of the Pharaoh of the
broadhead man, you know. And so then I'm i, you know,
send up a text like hey man, I think you
were the first one I texted. Look at shot the
buck that I've been wanting, you know, and uh so.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, yeah, I can.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I remember just being excited that you shot when I
was like, man, I hope he finds it because I knew, like,
it's been a few years since you've shot a good buck.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Right, yeah, especially with my bow. I mean I.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Shot a good one in twenty and twenty one with
my muzzle loader.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
That was a fun hunt. But he it's been it's
been probably four years since I shot one with my bow.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, And so, how what happened after you shot there?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
You texted me.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
You probably waited a little bit then, huh, I.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Did, so I texted, you know, I texted you, and
then I texted, you know, my father in law.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
And I said, hey, shot him. I don't think it's
going to be good.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
I want to give him time. So I took my
time getting down. We get back to the cabin and
right to the house and.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
We're talking it over and it just, you know, I
just knew it just didn't feel right, you know, the
way he ran away seeing the arrow.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
I'm just like, man, you know, hope you know fingers
crossed that something weird happened, and and more, I was like, well,
maybe I got more than what I did, and it
just hit a bone. It kind of bounced back, you know,
and my eyes.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Couldn't pick it up.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
And so we waited about three hours, I think, and
found blood right away.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
It was better at in the beginning than I thought
it was going to be, but it was. We we covered.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
And it's probably three hundred three hundred and fifty yards probably,
you know, And it got to a point where the
first one hundred yards was really good blood, not really good,
but good blood.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Better than I like I said, better than I thought.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
And then after that hundred yards it was like pin
drops and every I don't know, ten feet fifteen feet
something like that and not really no, and never found
my arrow.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
So we're coming up and I can see the edge
of the field.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
It was. I basically shot him on one end, one
field edge kind of, and he ran to this straight across.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
I shot him west of this block.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Of timber, and he ran to the east side of it,
and uh, he was on the very edge.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
And as I'm coming up this ridge, I'm.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
At this point, I'm just trying to do a body,
you know, just to see if I can see him
laying somewhere or something. And because the blood stops, it
just eventually it just it just stopped, and I could
get to the edge man and I see him stand up,
and of course his his rack is skylit, you know,
(30:39):
and it's.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Just like.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Thinking about that tree again.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
And yeah, and uh, I wanted to pull my hair out.
And he runs off. He runs off, and he's not
limped in, he's not not doing anything.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
He runs off like a normal deer, you know, like
a like a healthy deer.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Man.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
And so I meet up with my father in law
and I was like, oh, did you see him? And
he goes, no.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
I was like, well, he ran, you know, he's running
kind of your your way, and he goes, I never
did it. It's super thick over where we were. But
I said, he's he's looks fine, you know man.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
And so that was it. So then I had that
that car ride.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
You know, it's an hour and fifteen minutes from the
farm to my house.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
There was no music. There was.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Oh man, it's just a terrible feeling. But a few
was a few weeks went by and you went back out.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Yeah, the very next day, Yeah, the very next day,
my my wife's cousin was something a different part of
the farm, and he goes, hey, was this buck and
he starts describing it and I'm like, well, that sounds
like him. I mean, there's you know, he's chocolate racked white,
he's got a spot in the middle of his face, you.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Know, and all that. And he goes, dude, he's out,
he's out eating in the clover.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
And he goes he's living a little bit, but he
doesn't look bad. And I said, cool.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
You know, I figured that was they. That was it.
I was going to find him dead when because I
was going.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
To look hard for sheds or you know, if he
you know, for him. But I figured that was it.
So then it's second Illinois shotgun season. I can't remember
what day that was.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
December second, I think, which was like a.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Saturday, and I only had a day and so I
hunted that same stand just out of you know, like man,
hopefully he comes.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
So your shotgun or muzzleloader.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Muzzleloader you can use? I can I can use my
muzzleloader during the shotgun season.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Go ahead?
Speaker 5 (32:45):
No? No?
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Yeah, So I didn't see anything in the morning or no,
I think that back I passed a really nice three
year old and I had a few pictures of him,
and it was actually I would.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Be lying if I said it wasn't hard to passn't,
but I did.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
And the evening I kinda was looking at my options
and I'm eating, I'm eating lunch, and I get to
the spot where I think I'm going to go and
I'm eating lunch, just kind of hanging out. I don't
want to go back to the house and do all
that because I knew I wanted to be out early,
and I knew if I went to the house, I'd take.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
A nap and take my time getting out, you know,
screw some enough.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
So I'm looking at it, I'm getting all my gear
together and I'm getting ready to I'm like locking the
jeep everything, and I'm like, notice the wind is like absolutely,
couldn't be more wrong for this stand I'm going. But
there was a we had a buck on camera that
was coming out in daylight, so that's the kind of
(33:50):
why I was over. There was warm, like fifty some
so this was another Clover Clover plot, and it's like, Okay, well,
you know it's my best bet. But then as i'm
you know, like I said, I'm standing, there's like this
is terrible. I mean, there's nothing. I blow everything out
of the woods. So last minute decision, I go to
this spot and it was actually one of the spots
(34:12):
where I've been getting pictures of this buck all summer.
And it's a cut corn field. Stuff stuff is still
left in And so I sat there, you know, all afternoon,
and I only saw it's coming at like four o'clock.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
And at about that time, I think I can I
think legal shooting time ends at five.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
And about that time, I see a buck in the
woods coming behind me and then kind of just like
skirt out of the way. I never really get a
good look at him, and I'm like.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Well, you know, that's going to be the only one
I see.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
And so my wife texts me and she says, our
sun is throwing up every fifteen minutes. And he's been
sick before, but you know, usually like a half hour
to an hour, but like every fifteen minutes, that's that's bad.
So I'm like, I'm gonna I'm just gonna get down.
(35:08):
I you know, it was fun. I got to see
a nice buck, you know, and I was I was
at the farm by myself, just kind of those days
are kind of nice, you know, hunt with people, but
it's also nice to hunt by yourself. And so, you know,
I'm getting everything lowered and I'm walking out, so there's
(35:30):
still plenty of light. You know, We're talking like a
half hour, and uh, as I'm coming to this edge,
I can see a deer with his head down.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
He's kind of behind the little hill.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
It's kind of like a it's not a super flat field,
there's some topography to it.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
And he's on the back.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Side of this and so I put my gun down
and you know, actually slide my backpack off because I,
like I said, I was irritated, but you know whatever,
and I'm looking and he picks his head up and
I'm like, oh, that's a nice and I'm looking. I's
like he's standing in the middle of this field and
I've got the wind in my favor, and I'm like,
(36:08):
what's it gonna hurt? You know, I'm either gonna get
a chance or I'm gonna mess this up real bad.
And it's new only deer in the field, you know.
So I am going And so as soon as he
puts his head down, I think I take a layer off.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
I'm in the woods looking at him I'm not out
in the open. I take a.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
Layer off back down, and I get on my hands
and knees, and I'm like, you know, crawling putting the
gun out in front of me, taking a couple of
steps or crawling you know, a couple feet and then
sliding it. And I was thinking he was probably two
hundred and fifty yards in this field ish, And I
(36:52):
notice at one point I can see the Times coming
over this hill, and.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
I'm like, dang it, you know now now.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
So I get ready and I pull a hammer back
on the muzzleoder and I'm looking in the first shot
he gives me I'm taking and but then I kind
of see him, you know, stop, and I never see
his head. I just see the tips of him and
then turn around and start going downhill. So I, you know,
put the hammer back down, and I get up and
I sprint as fast as I can. Yeah, where you're
(37:25):
like crouched over, like throwing your back out.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Of the pain you'll feel in the woods, do.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
That, oh man? Yeah, And binoculars bouncing all over the place.
And so I stand up and he's quartering away. I
stand up, hammer back, and I'm looking and I also zoom.
I got a My scope is like three to seven
or something like that, so it's in all the way.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
I couldn't hold steady on him for.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
Nothing, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Starting to squeeze.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
I'm starting to squeeze, you know, and I'm like, eventually,
you know, it's like I'm gonna try to do a
surprise shot and it's gonna break where I want it to.
But I'm like, dude, there's no way, no way. So
I let it down and I'm looking at him, and
he starts kind of walking away. He never sees me.
(38:16):
So I take that time. I get back down on
my hands and knees, and I cover another probably thirty yards.
So at this point I think I arranged him. Later
he was about sixty yards. And so then before I
stand up, I'm taking deep breasts just to calm myself,
and I just kind of ease up, and I wrap
my hand through the sling hammer, back looking at him,
(38:37):
and I keep drifting left and right, so I'm going
into his neck, then back to his butt, and then
as it's coming back, I squeezed and the course muzzleoder
it's just all you know, powder, it's just all smoke.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
And then so I don't.
Speaker 6 (38:52):
I'm I'm looking like as soon as I shoot, as
soon as it breaks, I'm looking left and right because
I'm thinking he's gonna either go to this pond, he's
going back to the woods smoke clears, and I'm like,
what in the heck?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
You know, It's like it's like, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Yeah, I'm like, I can't see anything, you know, And
I'm like, I take a couple of steps and I'm like,
oh wait, you know, there's that looks like a belly,
but it could be a cornstalk, you know.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
And I'm I'm walking up, you.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
Know a little bit more, and I'm like, dang, no way,
and so you know, it's just like a deer.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
And I, you know, it was like it's a good
it's a good deer. Yeah. And I'm I think I
texted you.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
I hadn't even got to him yet, and I.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
I think or I texted somebody and I was just
sending them pictures.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
As I got closer, it was just a white a
white belly, and you know, I think it was actually
my father in law.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
And he goes, what am I supposed to be looking at? Pension? Zoom?
You know, that's all I kept saying.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
Well, I get to you know, about third yards from
him and or something like that, and I've looked at
enough of his trail camera pictures that his one side
is a four point side and I just immediately liked.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
And I, you know, like, there is no way that
is him.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
And so I haven't even I haven't got up onto
him yet, and so I walk around at the back
side and in the top of one of his shoulders,
I can see a hole in tusk coming out, and
I was like, oh my Josh, like, never had that
kind of feeling like that, you know, I mean as
far as like redemption or anything, you know, the most
(40:47):
I guess successful I've ever felt because when I shot
my help, That's something I've always wanted to do as
a kid. Yeah, elp Elk was like, man, I might
only get one chance to do it, and I figured
it was through an.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Outfitter, and I when I got him, you know, it
just would have never guessed. But this one, this one felt.
Speaker 6 (41:10):
Different, just because I mean, I know, I know I
texted you, and I don't want it to sound bad,
but I felt when I when he came in, you know,
that first time I had the experience with him and
I shot him at him, you know, hit him with
my low I was like, you know, I said, I
felt like it was I was meant to get.
Speaker 8 (41:29):
Him, you know, yeah, for sure, which is the It's
weird to say, but dude, I mean I don't ever
get chances that read is with with hardly anything.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
Yeah, I mean life or let alone hunting.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
I never you know, I don't know how many deer
that are I've hunted, you know, at the farm. You know,
I've showed you pictures of him, and you know, the
neighbor ends up getting them. And I'm always happy. I
love people. I love seeing the deer that I've you know, chasing,
But man, this one just everything about it is like
(42:05):
it was meant to be some ways.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
So I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Just man, one, it was a grace from God for sure.
I mean that what a crazy story.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
Yeah yeah, and uh man, so yeah, he you know,
he's nine nine points, super like. His mask is awesome
throughout his twenty eight I think twenty and three eights
on one being twenty one and three eighths on the other.
He's super symmetrical. I actually taped him last night and
(42:39):
he was low one forties.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah dude, he yeah, like you said, he's got that
chocolate rack too. It's a good little tuk.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Have you posted on your Instagram yet?
Speaker 5 (42:53):
No? I haven't, just because I you know, I don't.
I don't know why.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
I was kind of kind of mad that I didn't
have I mean, all the pictures that I have, you know,
like the recovery photos.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Man, I was out there by myself. I didn't have
my camera, no tripod.
Speaker 6 (43:10):
I'm I'm sticking my phone in one of the pockets
of my backpack and then like setting like a timer
and like running running around behind.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Him to hold them up. Yeah. I will though, post.
I'll post the pictures.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
So if you guys want to see pictures of that,
go follow Chris. He was a Chrity Underscore, Carter Underscore
twenty one, something like that, Tom from time time.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
But yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Thanks for coming on here though and sharing that story
with this man.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Crazy.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
Yeah, man, I appreciate being all and I I've talked
about this deer a lot and man, I hope to
hope to do it again.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Next for sure.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Again, congrats, Thanks dude. Well, that was a crazy story,
like I said, and uh, hopefully we'll bring you doing
the more of these next year.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
So if you guys like it, you know, wait wait
wait wait, Before we end this, there's a thing a
lot of Texans don't understand, and it's something I really
want to emphasize that what's that Chris talked about a
little bit. When you shoot that muzzle, oh yeah, and
the smoke covers up the deer, you will never feel
your eyes going like side to side, just like where's
(44:36):
he going, Where's he going? Where's he going? Where's he going?
Speaker 5 (44:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Yeah, I know nothing about that.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Like Texas, there's I mean, I think there's some muzzle
over seasons some in East Texas or something. But yeah, dude,
I've it's been rifle on.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Why wouldn't you use no reason to But like it
is seriously like it's probably a good three or four
seconds that you are just like like your heart is
just like, what's going on? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening?
It is so awesome.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Let me ask you this, whins Ohio's muzzleoder season.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
That's a great question. You need to be I believe
it's the first week of January, and I may need
to have the boomstick in Ohio some permission, Dear, I
think you should do. I might have a plan already, sweet.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
But like I said earlier, Greg has a video out
right now, so be sure to go check that out.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
Yeah, there's lots of lots of bucks in that video.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Ude.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
For whatever reason, I got to hunt like the best
days of the year at that.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, that's a good thing about having three camera guys
and two guys who hunt like mainly because.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
One can be hunting and making some content exactly.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
But the season's not over yet.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
There, they got a trip ahead of them, and then
we may have some more hunting to do after the
new year.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
We might have to go back to dearly. So I've
seen some came.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
If we don't have another white Tail Bums before Christmas
though everyone. Hopefully everyone has a good Christmas and happy Holidays.
We'll see you next time.
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