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September 12, 2025 62 mins

We talk about the recent shooting of Charlie Kirk and who possibly got at em. Who y'all think did it? They just arrested a guy who they claim did it, he's probably a patsy... Stay tuned

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Speaker 1 (00:51):
I ain't doing shit, just trying to get my ass
ready for the day.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
You know, another day, y'all got practiced. Hell yeah, I
guess the biggest news today, bro, is the guy Charlie
Kirk got shot today. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I've been seeing it all over the news.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, that kind of has been the talk of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
You know, he was sitting out at the rally in Utah, man,
and got shot in the neck. While I don't think
people should get killed for having an opinion. I definitely
don't think people should get murdered to lose their life
for having an opinion, right, But well, you convey a
certain type of energy. You have to expect whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Comes with Yeah, you know, consequences as a motherfucker, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
People with their political values and they way of thinking,
you know, sometimes it up it uh really affects other
motherfucker because and how they think about the way life
should be or.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Vice versa, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
So it's unfortunate that shit like that happens for having
an opinion. Like you said, everybody's title to their opinion.
But unfortunately that's just how it worked.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
You know what though, in my stance on this that
will say this again, while I sympathized with his family
and with his loved ones, because shit, shouldn't nobody lose
their life had an opinion. But I can name so
many instances, man, just in the past five or six months,

(02:43):
where are people have been pretty much executed at gunpoint, right,
you know, by the police. I saw a thing, and
now some of these instances I don't know that That's
why I'm careful on speaking on stuff without knowing the
particulars of it. But I saw a brother just the
other day. It came up with his hands in the air.
It was very cooperative, but you know he got shot

(03:04):
in the stomach.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
We still got the old like you said, we still
got that. You know, we were having a lot of
that with where that as far as the police ship,
with the with the you know, killing of a lot
of black men, and you know, know, not knowing what
the case may be for it, but you know it

(03:31):
has been tragically high in the last couple of years.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
You feel me.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
You know, no, Now, some shootings aren't justified. You have
some people that may not crazy motherfuckers. You you can't
get a walng niggas out there on dope. Niggas is
you know, threatening other people's lives and ship.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
So of course you know you're gonna have justified shootings.
But you know in some instances where his traffic stops
and there's no weapons and ship like that, you know,
you you gotta feel for you gotta feel for the
families and the victims of that type of shit. But
like you said, everybody got their way of life, of thinking,

(04:10):
and it's just you don't want to make it a
situation of comparison to racism or shit like that. But
you know, it's just people who don't like other people's
way of thinking when they come to politics and religion,
in the way of how people think life should be.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
You get me. There's a lot of mo fuckers.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
There's a lot of motherfuckers who still think that white
people should be with white people. You know, I'm pretty
sure there's black families who might you know, have a
certain shoulder or turn the cheak type of a feeling,
you know, if they black daughter bring home a white man,
or or the black son bring home a white woman,

(04:49):
or you know, whatever the case may be. You know,
and then there's just open motherfuckers who feel like, you know,
live and let live. So but unfortunately, you know, when
you on and this is on any case, when you're
on a platform, you know, you put yourself and uh,
you put yourself in that in.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
That linelight.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Of being known and being a forefront or whatever you cushion.
And so if you've got motherfuckers who don't agree with that,
you making yourself a big target for somebody out there
who's crazy and willing enough to try to assassinate a
public speaker or a president or a political speaker or

(05:37):
a famous motherfucker. You know, you're just crazy motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
You give me, you know, especially what us doing.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
We do because I'm pretty sure there's people out there
that don't necessarily agree with everything we say, right, And
that's why I really try to. I really guard my
words carefully, man, not saying that I won't have an opinion,
but you know, when it comes to personal matters, I
don't do personal bro I don't get in the personal
beast for people.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
I don't do all that because somebody can probably hurt.
Sometimes opinions aren't ranted, you get me, opinions aren't warranted
and everything. And that's what I say.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Sometimes you might hear a motherfucker say something that you know,
you know you've got something to say, but knowing that,
you know, sometimes responding to that might take it to
a different level of what was intended. So sometimes you
just gotta learn to keep your mouth shut sometimes and
be like, hey, no comment, you feel me like, motherfucker,

(06:39):
what's your opinion on this or that? And if you
know a motherfucker is so sensitive to where they gonna
want to try to respond to your comment or your opinion.
Then sometimes I just be like, hey, now, if a
motherfucker asks you what you think about it, and knowing
you on a platform, you know, we got the podcast,
music and whatever. Sometimes I just learned to be like, oh, man,

(07:02):
I ain't got no comment on that.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
They got nothing to do with me.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah for real? You know what, though, this brings up
another point. Gun control has been a really really big
subject man as of late. You know, California and New
York got some of the strictest gun laws in the country, right,
And I have two trainings that thought that.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Man, me being the guy that owns guns.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Several of them, I believe that me, as a law
abiding citizen, I should have the right to bear arms.
But should there be limits placed on stuff? You know,
shouldn't that be limitings? You know, I've seen the whole
thing around here. They want to limit you to buy
I think three a month from I've seen it to

(07:46):
where they want to make it the way you buy
one gun a month. Um, I don't necessarily like the
idea of somebody telling me what I can and can't by.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I guess it's on that. I guess it's on me.
In ten of what are you planning on doing with
all these weapons you consume, and you know you want
to buy three weapons a month, and you look up
in three, four or five years as going on and
you buying three.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Weapons a month. Now you got a hundred weapons in
your house.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
That's gonna probably cause raise alarm with some people. Like
if you just a regular law Biden citizen and you
try to protect your home, what's wrong with one gun
or two? Like why you got thirty guns in the house?
So that raises a sin with motherfuckers. I'm an avid collector,
you know, so to speak. But that's only gonna go

(08:40):
so far with certain people. You know, when they get
noticed up. Now, this nigga Doe bought a hundred guns
in the last thirteen.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Months and shites.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
It causes hysteria among people, especially I'm a law Biden citizen.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
But you also you.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Know a black man who has had ties to the streets,
and you know the company you keep and blah blah blah.
What fuckers get curious and shit, then they want to
start poking around in your lifestyle and seeing what's going
on to why you know, if you just hear the
you know, I got the right to bear arms because
if somebody entering my home, I want to be able

(09:18):
to protect. Okay, but damn right me and you are
three times you want to shoot him with the AAR
and they grab a shotgun and they grided thirty and
then graded a nine millimeter and theed grabbed twenty two
and they you give me. So it just it raises
suspicion among those motherfuckers, because it don't raise the suspicion

(09:40):
of the people who's selling them. It raises the suspicion
of the motherfucker who keeps cop who keeps motherfucking stack.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
You know you feel me because a nigga was a
store owner.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
I got a thousand guns in here, and I got
the right to sell them. So if there's no law
to how many a motherfucker can consume there, then I'm
gonna keep selling the motherfucker if he can come in
here and keep you know what I'm saying. But then
that's gonna reflect on you, for motherfuckers get checking the
records and going, damn, this nigga done fouled for another

(10:12):
gun license. Here's another one, and here's a nut Like
you know what I'm saying this They got thirty dollars.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
This is what I firmly believe though, Bro, as you know,
the people that are in the streets, me and you
can both got access to go buy gun. We can
go get any gun we want to without having to
go through none of that, right exactly.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
And I feel like this that.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Until if the balance is tipped to things being equally fair. Now,
in the state of California, you are only allowed to
have a ten round magazine. And as you know, there
are cats out there, man that got one hundred rounds,
one hundred and fifty rounds. You feel what I'm saying.
They they got some real bananas. You feel what I'm saying,
they got some real high capacity magazines. They don't have

(10:57):
the limits on their guns without app like out here
they got where they put the fin grip on your ar.
So you're gonna be at a disadvantage. You're getting to
shoot out with somebody right then you have to fix
magazine or where you may have to hear the button
that you know, in order to insert.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
A new magazine. So I think that in lou of all.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
These guns, I think in lieu of them doing things
the way they do, I don't mind the limits some
of the guns, right, because, to be honest with you,
may I got so many guns, man, it don't matter.
I don't need nothing because, like you said, you're gonna
shoot one at a time, right, Right, I'm somewhat of
a gun collector. Though right, I'm somewhat of a gun collector.
I feel like this, as long as they have people

(11:39):
out there that have access to high magazines, I have
to arm myself to protect my household against the criminal
element that don't follow no laws. And though it's unfortunate
that you got some people, some idiots that go out
there and shoot places up, I think that speaks to
the problem, the mental health problems we gotta. You're right,

(12:00):
because you got you've had a certain type of individual
that was going out and committing those out and I
won't get into that. You've had a certain type of
people that have won out and committed those atrocities right
over the years.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Right.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
They haven't been normal people. They haven't been individuals like
me and you. They haven't been the guy that got
a registered gun, big house. You see what I'm saying.
They just had the thought, well, I'm gonna go shoot
up somebody. No my guns, I'm gonna tell you, man,
I carry one pistol with me all the time. I
always got it right, and I have a right too.
I got a license for it, right. I don't carry

(12:36):
all my other stuff with me because I do like
to go hunting. I have other things that I do, right,
you know with guns. Guns, Guns don't hurt people as
dumb motherfuckers that hurt people with guns, right, people that
don't have rational decisions. Now, while I am a proponent
of the Second Amendment, I do think that there needs
to be certain things on which a person don't have

(12:58):
that right. No more like I think if you were
they got to maybe a relationship that got a restrain
the order. Let's say your ex wife don't put a
restraining order against you, right. I think that I don't
necessarily think that guy's ranks need to necessarily just be
taking away from them automatically, but it needs to be
looked into.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
We need to have a conversation with this cat. Right.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Look, man, we're gonna give you this pistol, but we
want to know are you cool. We're gonna keep extra
eye on you, or maybe we won't let you get
that high capacity magazine.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
You feel me that you necessarily want to.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
I just think it's a slippery slope, man, when you
get to telling people what the king and the king
a right because those laws and those constitutions were putting
the place for a reason.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
They was putting a place for a reason.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Right, because you know, when the found their fathers first
established this country, they said that they want to get
punk by nobody else. They want to be able to
defend theyself. Right, you gotta right to defend your households
like the next man. But that don't mean that you
shouldn't probably have safeguards and shit put on that shit.
I don't know, man, this.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Shit is.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
This shit is crazy because I think that I wonder
what the statistics are for that. Man, what the amount
of people overseas that do dumb shit like that versus
the people over here?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
What's that? Go after political figures? No? Not just going
after political figures? Was he political? Like? I don't, I don't,
you know, I work what you gotta have had an opinion?
He was you know, he was a right, he was
a guy that did this thing right. You know.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Let me see, I just pulled him some stuff on him.
He was only thirty one years old. The close ally
President Trump was killed while speaking of Utah Valley University.
The Doherty said a person of interest was being interviewed.
Charlie Kirk, the charismatic founder of the nation's pre eminent
right wing youth Active Is group, was fatally shot on Wednesday,

(15:02):
was speaking at Utah Value University. It's kill in front
outrage and politicians of both parties who called for an
end to politically motivated violence and grief from prominent media figures.
FBI director Cash Ptail posted on social media about forums
after the shooting that the suspect who had killed mister
Kirk had been taken into custody, but at a news

(15:24):
conference a few minutes later, Utah officials described the individual
in custody as only a person of interest who has
been interviewed about the shooting, and said the investigation was continue.
So he was a youth political activist. I think he
talked to the young people now, regardless of mister Kirk's

(15:47):
few I don't think people should people's life should be
ever in danger for the opinions that they may have
regarding their politics, because just like I want my rights
protected to be able to speak on what I want
to I think the next man's life shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Be in danger because of a view point he got.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Even if I don't agree with that, I think the
Klansman got a right to have an opinion, just like
I think the brother from Islam, the nation of Islam
have a right to have an opinion, because when you
get the picking sides, it can just get ugly real quick. Man,
Now you're talking about censorship. You know exactly now you're
talking about censorship. So I don't even know if this crime,

(16:30):
as crazy as it sounds, we so quick to say
killing what's politically motivated?

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Who's to say, man, that some of this shit ain't
already playing the script? It out? You feel me? Just
to kick the laws off?

Speaker 3 (16:45):
And you've had you don't You've had cases of shit
like that make it seem like what it is or
what it ain't, you know, just to motivate or certainly
a certain way or drop pushing the ginger that's strongth
that to make it strong?

Speaker 1 (17:04):
You feel me? Well, who knows? Like I said, you
have a.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Thing right now to word the Second Amendment? And miss
Jeff so happens to come and now he was the
Second Amendment proponent He said that even though there are
a few deaths every year for people with guns, he
thinks it's worth it to keep the right to bear arms.
So he said that hisself. Right, he has said that openly.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Right.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
So, so was it for me? Was he racial? Motivated
by shit? Was he about you know, whites for whites
and blacks for blacks, and and and you know what
was what was his what was his line? He was
pushing for the youth? You get me, because he says
he was. He was pushing the youth angle. So what

(17:51):
was the angle? Was he pushing for white American youth?
Because I'm sure he wasn't pushing for youth in general.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, Well, he said some things, man, that can view
be viewed as racist rhetoric. Right, he said some things
that they can be viewed it's racist rhetoric. But I'm
real careful man to calling people racist when I don't
know them personally or I haven't listen to them extensively
enough to just say that, oh, he's a racist. I
think he did have some views. I think he did.

(18:23):
I think he you know, he had some views.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Who did he attract what racists? Did he attract? Most
of young white kids.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Basically he was pushing that rhetoric to want to be
you know, I think I read or heard a little
something to where his agenda was, you know, the white people.
You feel me that that was his agenda, not knowing
what else, you know, he was about, and you know
what his racial.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Views were, or his political views or whatever.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
But you know, he's seen you know, I guess some
people calling him an to this conservative you know, is
that the cause to push a motherfucker to the limit.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Of trying to take a motherfucker out?

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Do I feel like what he's pushing to young American
youth is healthy for the next generation.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, well, you know what, while he has some views
that were controversial right now, so called and legendary, well
you know what, dude, Donald Trump, Uh, you know what, man,
it's real crazy, and it's like, man, it's a slippery slope, right,

(19:45):
you know, because this guy spoke out against things like
critical race theory, like there's a contingent and let me
and then and then I'm just going off of what
I'm seeing. Donald Trump said he had before of the
American youth, What of what youth?

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Because I'm pretty of the white youth that black Mexican
and other races of color. Youth in America did not
feel that he had their back or their motherfucking whatever.
So how can you say when when really he's only

(20:29):
tugging one side. So how you, as the president can
say he had the haunt because there's there's there's other
horns in America than motherfucking white herts. You feel me
so crazy the line they pushed, and you see the
people that are speaking out for him, like I said,
because he said, you know, he was loved by many

(20:52):
many again who many who?

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Well, you know what, there's a contingency of white people
in this country, right, white men in specific, right, who
feel like the white man is in danger, who feel
like the white man is being treated unfairly. I saw
Elon Musk make a tweet the other day that white
men are in danger, that all of these shootings come

(21:16):
because because white he said, pretty much, white men turned
into transactions because they've been made to feel bad the
whole life. It's like, you know what, nobody has been
made to feel bad because what they're trying to do now,
man is get rid of what they call critical race theory.
They don't want people talking about slavery in schools. They

(21:36):
don't want people reminding of nobody reminded them of the
bullshit that they've done. They feel like that's in the past.
It should stay in the past. It has nothing to
do with me, and I'm tired of being made to
feel guilty about it. The thing is, here are plenty
of white folks in this country who don't feel personally
guilty about slavery because they feel it was a bad time.
They think it was a bad thing to do, they

(21:58):
feel it was horrible. But you have some people that
feel like, you know what, I'm tired of being made
to feel bad. I don't want nobody talking about that
no more because it makes my kids feel bad. So
they shouldn't have to hear that in school. It's like,
the truth is the truth, man. When you have a
trisphies that have happened throughout history, you have to constantly
speak on those like you speak on Hebroshima. That was

(22:19):
a horrible thing. America dropping a bomb on Hiroshima, right, that.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Was a horrible thing. US bombing her Pearl Harbor. There's
been plenty of horrible things. It was a horrible thing.
Us going around and.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
I believe it wasn't effecties of locking and putting Chinese
people in internment camps just because people was at war, right,
It was a lot of stuff. You talk about that
stuff so it never happens again. We can't allow certain
shit to happen again in this country because the moment
you start saying we're not gonna talk about it no more,
then you open up broom for somebody to come in

(22:52):
and just start making up shit.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
But this didn't happen like that next thing, you know,
slavery didn't exist.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
You feel well, I guess you hear a lot of
people trying to turn that that took that dial right
now with saying slavery did or or it didn't or
racism never happened, and all that other bullshit.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
So you know, like I said, it is, we're still
in the land of divided people. You get me. We
as black people.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Been through a lot of shift, you know, especially when
you grow up in neighborhoods like God grew up.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
In and you really don't have a chance to have
a voice.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
This is why we make the rap records and Trumps
speak on the the on the truck, speak to people
on the on the realm of how we can deal
with it and how they can understand how that it's
still fucked up in the.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Country and you still got it hard and bad.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
And you know, niggas don't like to preach that ship
because you know, niggas we we we at it, We worked,
if we get at it, and whatever we got to do,
we make it happen. And whatever obstacle we've learned to,
you know, we've learned to hurdle that obstacle. But it's
still crazy when you know, motherfuckers are praised for being

(24:16):
one sided when the agenda has always turned the other
cheek for motherfuckers like us, and you know this didn't happen,
and you know that happened four hundred years ago and
all this other shit. But then you got motherfuckers who
still pulling agendas to make us. Every mind us of

(24:36):
Nigga ain't got there. They ain't really changed.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
You still need it hasn't and you know that thing, yels.
And I'm being sincere when I say this man, the
man got shot in front of his family, He got
shot in front of his wife and children. Right, the
person that did that shit needs to go to jail. Right,
But there have been plenty of but said have been

(25:00):
murdered in front of our mothers, wives, are children.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
They don't want to take you back to that ship.
I want to hear about that ship. Niggas was getting
hanged and beaten in front of their motherfucking families and
taking the jail or stomped out or killed about motherfucking
police in the back country roads and all that.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
They don't want to be. They don't want to hear
about that ship. Don't let that shit do.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, because I'm gonna tell you this, bro, I have
plenty of I wouldn't call myself prejudice right, because I
don't believe you should judge people on their race. I
think you should judge people on who.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
They are, right.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
But I've had things that have happened to me as
a young man that shaped my opinion to form my opinion.
I remember my father. I remember my father taking me
home from visiting him on the weekend.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Man.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
He had a white girlfriend at that time. I remember
the police pulling them over. I remember this VI police
pulling them over before in the fraction she was driving,
and them snashing my father off the car and kind
of touching them up a little bit right the I'm
talking about slamming them against the car and doing this
what you're doing, ma'am?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Are you all right? Are you okay? Is he forcing
you to be in there? Right? I've seen all that first,
hed man.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
So for people to sit up here and say, like, oh, well,
you know, critical race theory should be eliminated in the
classroom because you know there's no such thing as systemic racism.
It shouldn't be this way. No, you want to be
made to feel good for yourself. This is you for
your own You want the benefit of not hearing about
that because you don't want to feel bad about it.

(26:37):
You feel like it should be pressed under the rug
because in your mind everything is fair and equal. Right know,
everything is not fair and equal. I'm gonna tell you this,
Donald Trump right now, man, Not that I don't even
like speaking on politics, because all these motherfuckers is for
the shit right now, right Donald Trump, eliminating a whole
bunch of them programs, man, are hurting people right now.

(27:01):
There are people losing jobs right now as we speak.
There are certain people who won't be able to get opportunities,
who may not get opportunity right because sometimes you have
to force a motherfucker to do right. That's just where
we're at in this country. You got to force certain
people to do certain things right. So I think that

(27:23):
it's about to get ugly, man. And you see certain situations,
like people that may have voted for a certain way
right now they getting stuff that's happening to them and
they feel like, oh, man, I can't believe it's happened
to me. Like I saw some guy that wasn't allowed
to cross back over from Canada because he had the
criminal record, and he was one of them people who

(27:44):
was a Magia supporter. So now when it started happening,
and you don't feel so good no more. Right, See,
I'm gonna tell you something. I ain't never no fun
when a motherfucking rabbit got the gun.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
People do.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
I don't know, like I said, coming from coming from
you know what I've seen and experienced in life as
a youth and a police and just trying to or
you know, make a way of living and life. You know,
like I said, there's a lot of shit man, that
I avoid and try not to get into because.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Everybody's not gonna agree with shit.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
And and that's just the case.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Of what happened the home boy today.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
You know, who knows how long a motherfucker has been
blocking for this day to happen, you know, because I'm
pretty sure on this has been planned out, you know,
you know it. It's just not a It's not just
a random act where a motherfucker just felt like I'm
gonna wake up today and go shoot the motherfucker. You

(28:54):
feel me, this was an all setup. So you have
to wonder what the what the feelings or the people
and they share, like I have to do this shit.
I don't know whether it's mental state, whether your status,
whether you feel like this motherfucker is just wrong for
the for for for the world. You get me, like,

(29:14):
you know, just this motherfucker's just not hate like and
and the crazy shit about it is.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
In today's day and age, you can.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Be put on these platforms to where like you know,
you used to have to be in your in your
in your motherfucking bottom basement with a couple of motherfucking
you know, crazy motherfuckers in and considerate flags on the
wall in your basement and doing shit like that in
private meetings.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
You got platform today. You get me.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Nigga's counting is just as big as the next motherfucking
famous podcast or internet sensation. So Motherfuckernna push is a
jit than that. So, like I said, you have to
you have to. Niggas can say they in no fear
of retaliation of what the other motherfucker's opinion might be.

(30:08):
But when you get to that status and your opinions
or something that jeopardizes the well being of the American
people and certain people who don't believe in your rhetoric,
you've got to understanding that you're putting yourself in target.
You get danger to you. It's happened to you know,

(30:28):
it's happened to motherfuckers that we love, you know, the Martins,
the Alcoms.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
You get me.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
You know motherfuckers who who stood for all political rights
and agendas and what we needed.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Niggas was smoking there.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
You feel me, So you gotta understand like it's it's it's.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Gonna it's gonna be the same ship.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
You know, you got more got groups and people who
think just like now, Man, I can't let this motherfucker
keep talking or keep broadcasting, or keep podcasting and just
drilling this shit into their minds of motherfucking you know,
you young motherfucking mind can be manipulated really easy.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
You feel me, That's what I'm saying. And what he
with words and the ship.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Look how crazy these young motherfuckers go over niggas with
these rap cuts and songs and shit. Motherfuckers be just
you know, fans. And you know, man, you got the
same ship with more fuckers like them.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
But he gleaching that ship.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
He preaching that ship to you, preaching that ship, and
you sitting in that home and you're listening and listening.
He's watching videos and why hearing motherfucking conversations and oh man,
that motherfucker drilling man, you turning that braid you give me?

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Who knows?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
You're seeing more people? You seen people being more in
boom right now. I'm not seeing it that didn't happen before,
but you're seeing it more in the wide open and
where you got people going over people's house just to
do work and white people coming outside.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Get off my property, nigger, what you want some? You
want some of this?

Speaker 2 (32:06):
And I'm seeing this stuff online and I'm like, wow, man,
this stuff used to be kind of concealed. Now people
are just like, dude, that's a chance. Now you may
be in the grocery store. You may you may be
just shopping for your for your gram strites and not
paying attention to somebody, and you may have a confrontation

(32:27):
with somebody.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
It's it's a catch twenty two because it works in
both ways.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
It's good for the fact that.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Now shit can be recorded, so a motherfucker's lie can
be put on front street, and you know, you can
show that motherfuckers are crazy and it ain't. You just
can't take the word off what a motherfuckers say. Now
I got video and carc But then like you said
in in the other hand, it it fires motherfuckers out

(33:00):
where it gives people the platform to push they line
and show they idiocracy and shit like that, and show
how motherfuckers could be dumb and crazy. And then you know,
two towns old and some motherfucker who thinking just like
that or feel just like that, You get me and
then three old with some motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
So now they're getting to connect.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
And now you've got all these motherfuckers who feel in
the same way in one area. So like I said,
it's good, then it's bad because of the it exposes motherfuckers.
When a motherfucker catch a nigga's Front Street live shit.
You know, Oh, I didn't do nothing and they attacked
me first, and I'm just the boar, innocent motherfucker bullshit
niggas here all on camera. But then again, it gives

(33:46):
motherfuckers the line to push that agenda. So you gotta
be careful with this shit. It's just fucked up because
like you said, now it Tori gets a lot of
the youth and you have to be able to You
gotta be able to be a strong, mother fucking handed
parent in these days because kids will turned and they

(34:08):
be influenced by shit, and you'll never know what your
motherfucking son or daughter or you know, niece, nephew, grandkids
is in there watching and listening to. You know, it
could be dangerous for a motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
You know where they like I say, you never know
what kind of conspiracy is behind this. Because this man
was in Utah. You know Utah. The majority of Utah
is majority white. Right of course there would have been
if some people out there, man that want to kick

(34:44):
off something, they want to kick off this great They
have in their mind that there needs to be a
great day of reckoning. There needs to be a praise
for and there are people getting prepared for that, right.
Who's to say that they think that that moment them
doing this may spark a race more, maybe the spark
that starts a revolution of something. I'm gonna tell you,

(35:05):
I saw this movie. Man, it was really good trip.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
It was Niggas ain't gonna suckers no more. That's the
whole problem. You can start what you want to start,
and hopefully that's just rhetoricular don't close to that. But
niggas ain't. Niggas ain't unprepared like back in the days
you see me, I don't get niggas is too Niggas
is too prepared for anything today with what we've been doing,

(35:29):
what we see and what we're able to access, and
and and and uh be accredited to ship.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
We were taking the most ship. Now you're giving me.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Now you can try to push agenda to make people
feel like, oh, let's make this motherfucker martyr, you know,
let's let's pop the off and then that's gonna make
all of the motherfuckers who followed him just getting this
uproar over his beliefs and push his line. But don't
think that motherfuckern sitt off of bullshit because niggas ain't

(36:03):
shitting out from them bullshit. You know, that's just it.
So in your lines, you know one what you want
to do, but shit, you don't catch plenty. You donna
catch plenty of fades around this motherfucker before a nigga
think we gonna let you motherfucking push some motherfucker race
war agenda of thinking that this kind is better than
this kind. Nigga, we whooping asses today. That's especially what

(36:26):
we're doing.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
I'm gonna tell you something, man, too, has to go down.
We gotta change our mindset. And I think I'm starting
to see a difference now. You let me know if
I'm wrong, man, But I think there are always gonna
be some form of gangs in the neighborhood, right, You
always have groups of people. But here in that lay

(36:47):
I'm specific. I'm seeing certain projects get toward all right,
and certain communities kind of beat this mantal, people moving
out to the getting pushed out to the Antelope Valley
into the in the Empire and.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Stuff like that. So some of these neighborhoods ain't even
there no more, you know, like they're trying to grace
I mean, I get it. The neighborhoods, you know, have
which we have got a bad reputation with the neighborhoods,
and how you know, a lot of us, you know,

(37:21):
manage the neighborhoods and what we represented and tried to
you feel, you know, that we felt.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Like was being honorable to where we grew up.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
I guess trying to dismantle that makes them feel like
they can break up the neighborhoods or whatever was. But
niggas are still going to claim what they claim and represent.
Whether you've moved me the motherfucking jim bucktoo, or you
moved me around the corner. Some niggas just still have

(37:54):
that embedded in their hearts and their programs now, or
they're out doing the same grace dumb shit as a
youth that was happening, you know when they first started
claiming the set. Probably not, but you know, niggas are
always gonna be official from where they was from now
as far as to the city and the mayors and

(38:16):
the councilmen and the people who want to break up
the neighborhoods and the sections and try to relocate motherfuckers
because they feeling like you know, we got to relocate niggas,
and we're tired of having a band rap with the
city and the name and the neighborhoods, So let's try
to dismantle some of this shit. They still turn it

(38:39):
into nothing, you feel me. It's not like they're doing
anything astronomical with the neighborhoods. When they're tearing these places down,
relocating families who have been around for generations, you don't
see any motherfucking real progress by doing that shit. Niggas
are still around the corner getting shot, selling dope and
doing what they have to do. A bar whether you

(39:01):
tell this motherfucker, Darren, I got to move around the
street and come every other day to go to the
port that well we used to hang out.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
I mean, like, what are you gonna do? You show me? Yeah,
I'll tell you one. This is this is how I feel, man.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
I think games has always been a result of systemic racism.
I believe that gangs have been a result of communities
trying to protect themselves, you know, trying to protect themselves
community revolutionary and progress, right, And I think that I

(39:37):
think it's one of those things, man. I think in
some instances, every neighborhood in America, got you know, you
can you can call anybody a gang, right, you know,
a gang is just a you know, a group of
people that are gathered, you know, from the same community. Right,
they share the same ideologies or whatever. Right, it ain't
always all just. I think that right now, what we're

(40:00):
looking at is, I think people are starting to become
a lot more conscious. I mean, you know, this black
man next to me is not my enemy. He's not
the calls of me going through the thing, you know,
to the problems I'm having, right, And I think we're
gonna start seeing the shift. I think we're gonna start

(40:21):
seeing the shift because I'm starting to hear a lot
of people really just you know, kind of evolved and
move out the stuff.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Now.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
I think it's just a sign of natural maturity, Right,
You're not gonna think the same way that you did
when you were thirteen. You gotta remember when games first started.
You talk about little kids started gangs. Man, It wasn't
adults that started games. Games were formed by little fourteen
to sixteen year old kids exactly, you know, So of course,

(40:48):
of course the mind state is gonna happen like that.
Ringham Washington has started to critch all was he.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
When he died? I can't even jail you. He was
young when he died old there.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Oh no, he wasn't.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
You know, he didn't get to live you know, he
didn't get to live that that long life. Like you know,
we've been privileged to live to we're life. You know,
we're in our we're in our upper ages now. And uh,
thank god that we was able to survive, you know,
like you say, out of the five the South Central.

(41:26):
But unfortunately there were a lot of us who didn't.
You get me, and especially if you came from that
walk of life. In the early days of establishing some
games and you know, niggas trying to you know, make
their neighborhoods and they sets and they section motherfucking you know,
valuable and that that claimed to be the number one

(41:51):
or the viciousest motherfucking hood or whatever. A lot of
niggas lost their lives throughout the years and didn't make it.
You know, we we've had make us killed as young
as twelve e leftn you know, in this gang shit.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
So it's it's.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
It's fortunate for those who have made it, who have
able to being able to change their lives and do
something positive, especially coming from that walk of life. And
it was unfortunate that some of us got caught up
and we're still doing prison time and we're still paying
the depths of you know, you know of what gang

(42:32):
banging cost.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Now, let me ask you this eight because I don't
gang bang right, never had. Do you think that gang
banging is glorified a little too much?

Speaker 3 (42:48):
I don't know if it's I don't want to put drill,
I don't want to put glorified. But in this day
and age, it is different. It's different ways of how
game banging was perceived in my days. Today, you know

(43:12):
a lot of the young homies or running through the
neighborhoods and they have their own perspective of how they
feel they should represent the neighborhood in the games.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
You know, we have a lot of shootings, we have
a lot of killings. We got a lot of rap.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Beef, and you know niggas who getting on the mics
from their sections and who representing on that scale.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
And it's not just friendly banter like it was back
in my days.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
It's serious shit, you know, like here's his niggas's nigga
come through and will smoke you and we getting and
name the names.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
So today, you know, with it being to the aspect
of you know, his.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Videos and its content and it's you know, it's.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Generating more you know, revenue if you are beefing with
a nigga, because motherfuckers want to go by the beef
tapes and they want to see the videos. So it's
at a certain aspect today to where I think it's monopolized.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
More than you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
You can make money if you pushing the line of
being that real nigga and blasting over a nigga and
did some tewan and nkign. You know, niggas want to
come along if you're the next motherfucking rapper, they want
to exploit that. Yeah, because it was gang banging back
in my days and started rapping.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
They hated it.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
They fear because they feared it because they knew what
niggas was in the streets on. Like not to say
that niggas ain't on that shit today because like I said,
you see niggas killing and doornate thing whatever, but they
were they were scared to invite that shit until they

(45:00):
liver rooms into their board rooms because they know that
game Bay is shit. And you saw movies like Colors
and saw the news every other day of drive by
killings and all that shit.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
They was fucking scared of that shit. Scared as ill.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Look, but oh shit, little b bot nigga got a
million followers on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Come right here, let's give you.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
A million dollar deal, and here you go and being gone, well,
whatever you may please, because they gonna turn around and
make thirty.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
They don't give you a million to make thirty.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
They don't give a fuck if you're riding around the
street with their cave in the car and with the
motherfucking you.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
They don't give a fuck.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
If you're filming a nigga talking about you just beat
the nigga's ass and call his own boy slipping. They
love it. Look, he just got another million followers. So
I think it's the bread man. Bread makes a lot
of shit acceptable you give me. That's just like when
mother funers trying to get in the flood in the

(46:03):
Bulancher say, nah, nigga, you can't get in.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
You slide a couple of one hundred that they're gonna
turn up. You are going right in, lad. He ain't
supposed to you seeing me. They going right here, going
right here. I don't have to here, n you give
me like.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
It is to look coming up in the club and
people wondering how they got the gun inside of there
in the.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
First Please, Nigga, maybe my nigga at the back door,
let us come right on in this motherfucker. Or nigga,
we ad the motherfucking DJ quitting and Magga they was
inside the DJ turntables, Lego or nigga, I at the back.
Niggas ain't to searching my backpack. You know that's that's
hate and ship you feel me? Or nigga, you good,
my nigg come on here. Oh yeah, I'm coming here

(46:54):
with two of these motherfuckers in here, so it's worth
your own boys, man, please, So that's just the one man,
that's just how shit's been at going around.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Did you ever look back?

Speaker 2 (47:07):
You got to think about it, especially from your neighborhood.
I think I know they got other rappers from your neighborhood.
You for sure been the most successful, right, the most prominent.
Do you ever look back, man? Well, you never did.
You never did too much gang banging. You never did
no gang banging actually on your records.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Now I do gang banging on my records, because she
was already gang banging. You know, it was already gang banging.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
So I knew that this was a form of you know,
I'm trying to first of all, trying to make income.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Now get to the state of where I'm getting to
the stage of where I'm starting to get attention by motherfuckers.
And I don't want to get attention because I'm known
for cripping on niggas. I want attention for being an
MC because that's the love you feel me.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Game banging was.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
The necessity of being, the necessity of being in a
situation to where you damn show know that we're living
in a time where counting is full of neighborhoods. Niggas

(48:29):
is game banging, and you go to school with niggas,
and you grow up with niggas and you you you
you bind friendships and those friendships turning into game shit.
You feel me and from there ship from there, motherfucker.
Just like I said, it was already gang banging. So

(48:51):
when I started making records, I looked at records as.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Being a real m C.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
I didn't look at myself off as being a gangster
rapper like they started calling us. I looked at myself
like run DMC EPMD, Big Daddy Kane. They weren't calling
them niggas gangsters, and Kane was talking about sticking up
niggas and doing all kinds of shit. But they wasn't gangsters,

(49:19):
and so I didn't know that to I didn't want
that to stick on me because I knew we was
finna start going out to places. I didn't want to
alienate niggas. I don't give a fuck if they was
bloods or essays or Asian gangs. I just wanted niggas.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
To reflect off of being niggas in the neighborhood and
going through those processes of growing up in the neighborhood
and this time in this era, this is what's going on.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
If you're growing up in this era, you are proper
doing one of these.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Things that my mother fucking ass is doing too. As
far as being.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
In the neighborhood, I don't need to say I'm a crip.
I didn't need to say pripping blood blah blah. I
didn't need to say that because you ate from you.
I mean, everybody ate from dragoning. So I can't expect that.
So I can't keep I can't push the line of

(50:27):
ripping hard for the neighborhood or because I don't want
niggas to feel like, oh well, all he talking mat
is traggling part. All he talking about was traggoning part.
You know what I'm saying. I did a record about
the homies one time Guy for the month where you
know we I was talking about all the homies in
the hood, and then that was it. I did that

(50:49):
as a as a tribute to my experiences and niggas
I saw as O G's and how we walk and
how we presented ourselves as representing tracking pork. Other than that,
considering myself fucking MC like, I'm gonna got a you

(51:10):
feel me, nigga, I'm just not no motherfucking dope dealing
ass kaki suit wearing you know, dry by shooting niggas
turn around and get on the beat like this and
flex I give up back.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Then eight is enough?

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Uh time you feel me like me, I'm a I
ain't just no nigga who's talking about We're sitting in
the park every day drinking forty ounces, even though that's
my life at this moment.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
But nigga, I mean I looked up.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
To MCing Run, dmc LLL, cool J, Nigga, fucking the
Beastie Boys, motherfucking Scottler Rock and kr Rest in the beginning,
you know it and those type of niggas like niggas
who was hula niggas but they was nakings yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Know, and the thing yields. That's the eraror because you
know what I think people realize back then, there's that.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Gang banging was so stupid back then, man, that.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Where if you've got on the record and said the
wrong thing, people could actually die.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
I mean that's that's.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
I mean shit, you could die being got caught slipping
at the liquor store. That's how gang banging is, and
that's how representing the set and really you know, being
you know that nigga from the neighborhood, you you took
that shit serious. So you know if you're I think
I don't. That's why I think niggas didn't really you know,

(52:43):
niggas didn't really want to take that rock. Like if
you knew I was a crip, I was a crip.
So I'm not gonna even if you give me. You
could tell that on just the GP status. If you
a blood, I'm gonna know your blood. Just you ain't
got the rap about you know, blood shit because.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
I'm a know that that's me.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
So now just show me of you're a rapper, because
this is what that is that was created for. It
wasn't created for you know, niggas acclaimed territories and hoods
and whatever. Hip Hop was created as a way to express,
you know what I'm saying, being in certain motherfucker shit
And even though we picked up into it or expression

(53:24):
was the game bank shit, you feel me, but you
still had the honor of the fact that you have
to be a true motherfucking master of the microphone.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
You get me.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
And that's the thing that gag Bay what you just
wasn't just go get over from benk gang Bank.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
I think that you know, a lot of old school
artists prided themselves on that, even though you might've walked
that life.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
You know, star Faces, the ls.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
The eighths, the Cubs, the motherfucking three two's, big mics,
the big Daddy Kings, the eplbs me. This was cleaning
where they were from stat Night and from the blocks.
We from Brooklyn, we from Camp and we from Inglewood. Nigga,
we from Watts. But you have to bride yourself on
being an MC back in them days.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
You get me. You have to be traded on the mic.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
You couldn't just be like Nigga gunning you down, Nigga
eight K Nigga, I split you a two or Nigga
the hold me the Homi so and so came through
and shot up the block and Nigga we getting money
over here home.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Me and man Niggas is like, what the fuck is that?

Speaker 3 (54:30):
You would have to be a truth MC, and I
think that's what we prided ourselves, even though the fact
that we carried from those walks of Wots, we just,
you know, we felt a certain way about what we wrote.
As far as being an artist, you know, we still
wanted to be creative. I just didn't want to rap
one two, three four Nigga's gonna kick in your door.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
You feel me like, you know you know what, I
can't attest that I remember a Homeboy.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
It was from hum Man and he was hard Man
catching man Lord Shamel back in the day. I don't
know where Shamael is now. But I remember we were
talking about you wanted because he had SB twelve hundred
and he was trying to show me how to use
this SB twelve hundred, right, and we were just talking
about rep and one of your songs that came on.
He said, now that is hard.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
He was like, and he just stopped what he was
doing and turned it up.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
It was something that was on the radio. So you
always had respect to being at MC, hence your name
MC eight.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Or definitely that's that. That was one of the things.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
I value, you know. I was like, man, I'm gonna
be on out. I mean, I'm gonna get in this
gay but again, you know, I know what I'm doing.
I'm a young nigga and another then I'm trying to represent.
I'm trying to claim and set whatever. But I man,
I prided myself on being at MC, so I can

(55:54):
just give you simple shit like I said, one, two,
three four, kicking your door and and that's what neighborhood niggas,
and that you know, we're gonna sell some crack nigga
and you come to we're gonna dunk on you.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
I had to you know, I'm gonna give you a
song or two like that to.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Show you the poverty and the stress level of what
I'm really seeing and going through.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
But then.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
I showed these executive motherfuckers, I can really hold a tone.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
You're getting me.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Yeah, And you said what you said, you can't be
no singer. You know, pride yourself on being a true
motherfucker singer, and they get in front of motherfuckers and
can't hold a tune and niggas like so, you didn't
even tell me all of that is studio ship. So
that was it. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna give you

(56:44):
the street ship. That's what you you know, but did
and that ship yourself some raps as far as being
a MC.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Well, I know you and see it that once before
he actually means something, your name, the way you spelled
them everything, it actually means something.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Now he's getting little after them, and shit I came
up with because I didn't you just you know what
I'm saying a lot of people, or the thirty eight
strap when you drink eight ball, but it was experienced
in hardcore trumpet because I made that ship up because
I don't wanna let niggas no nigga I'm a rapper, rapper,
I'm just not no nigga wearing a kaki suit for

(57:20):
show and tell, And all I'm gonna tell you is
about is motherfucking you know, I'm gonna give you.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
I'm gonna give you the hood took me under. I'm
gonna give you niggas and struggling they growing up in
the hood.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
But like I said, yeah, I'm gonna give you songs
like I don't dance and I give up nothing and
give it up and shit like that, like oh this
thinka you're wrong, right.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Yeah, a lot of people, like I said, man, you
got a fan base. Whether people want to admit it
or not. Man, New York is kind of like the Mecca.
They don't seen many people in New York give it
up or definitely definitely all right. So you, like I said,
you've learned over the years that like I said, what.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
You do, you take pride in it and the other
motherfucker see how you know hard you work at it yourself,
and that you've always stayed on the same agenda and uh,
you know you never tried to do anything to put
yourself in a different predicament, to try to fool the
public and the fans, and because you just want status

(58:22):
and accolades. You know, I think once I'm not comfortable
with that shit. It's just like, it is what it is.
And so nigga take pride and still being at emp C.
And even though it's the years and you got different
styles of music today and different people and different fans
and whatever, I still pride myself on being able to

(58:42):
be at em C.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
You know, who do you like? Man from the whole
crupp of Newcats? It ain't got to be the fine
New Coast who you'd like it nowadays?

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Tile and Sleep.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
I'm one of those dudes that I'll just let songs
flip and you know, like I said, I'll listen to.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
The new ship.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
You know, I'm listening to all the new old school niggas.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
You know, my nigga ray Qua put.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Out a record, and me and motherfucking gold Space put
out a record, and then you know, my nigga Que
just drops some ship or Sloop put out a record
not too long ago. So that's what I'm really listening to.
You know, if I hear something new and it bangs,

(59:44):
then I'll play it. H I'm I'm I'm I'm still
listening to the Griselda camp.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Yeah, I like them dudes a whole lot. I like
I like all the Grasella, the list cats out there.
There's some cats I ain't gonna see, silly young cats,
but there's some cats from this generation.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
But you know, Karan ain't around anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
And you know, I just started back coaching around the
little kids.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
You know, So I gotta my ear Juan to the
kids with.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Their phone at the park, and then you know, I
hear what they listening to. Uh, you know, they listening
to a lot of you know, the Ken drag. They
listening to a lot of big XRA plug stuff, or
they listening to a lot of NBA Young Boys stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
So you just gotta be in tune. You feel the
plug is hard, big cause the plug is real.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Hard to me, So just be into And then I
try to listen and keep my ear in tune to
a lot of the old school shit, so just so
I can be y'all reminded and reminisced or yester years
and try to stay fresh on that side too.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
I don't you know what, I don't look at it, man,
I don't look at it like I look at it
like whose Spinners.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
I don't care how old they is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
It's a young cat I'm messing with now, a real
heavy name, y'all seen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
I like Big Extra Club.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
I've always did like and I ain't gonna say dang
yas he ain't necessarily new, But I really fool with
Dave East. They got a whole bunch of dope cats
out there, man, But man, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
What is what it is? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
On that note, man, be about to step up out
of here. Man, y'all be safe out there with all
this madness going on, and just watch us around this man,
and be careful out there for sure. Thank y'all man
for tuning in this week and celebrating five years with
the Black Effect Podcast Network with us. I wish I
had some of the noisemakers and all that shit. He ye,

(01:01:44):
Charlamagne's cracking Black Effect kick and seeing baby.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Yeah, y'all know what it is right now? You heard that,
Charlet Maine.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Well, that concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.
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