September 12, 2023 • 44 mins
Former Rap-A-Lot records artist "Ganksta Nip" sit's down to talk about the making of his classic album "The South Park Psycho". We talk about him being discovered by legendary rapper Scarface and rhyming for Rap-A-Lot C.E.O J. Prince in the club's restroom and being signed the next day and much more.
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comment what's happening, what's happening? What's happening tonight? We have
a very we got a very very special guest in
the house tonight. He was born to the world as
Rowdy Williams, but you know him as Gangster Nipping already.
Broadcasting live all the way from Houston, Texas. What's happening
with you? Brother?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Oh man, I'm just telling man, Guard is good. You know,
I'm just blessed to be here. Man. You know what
I'm saying. I appreciate you for having me, for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That's what's up for sure, man, Thank you for coming on.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
We've had a lot of people. Man. You know, when
I started mixing the album a few weeks ago, I
started getting people hitting me up on an inbox like
gangs Nip. That's my he produced one of my favorite
albums of all time, south Park Cycle before. But before
we get into that, man, we got to go back
way to the beginning. Wait at the beginning. So we
were born and raised in Houston the right, Yes, sir,
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south Park? South Park to be yes, sir, south Park. Yeah,
that's your hood, man, tell me a little bit about it. Man.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
You know, South Park is just you know, it's just
a rugged you know, it's like any other hood. Man,
it's a rugged hood. Man. You know, you gotta be strong,
you know, to live there. You know. I went to
Kelso Elementary, Hartman Junior High and Jesse H. Jones High School.
You know, you know when you got you know, your killers, dealers, hustlers, stillers,
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whatever it is. Man. Like I say, it's just the
average hood man. You just got to be strong to
live there.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Okay. Now, when you were in high school, I think
your high school is known for having for your rappers,
right you had a lot of rappers to attend high school, right, Yes, sir,
Who were some of those people?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Man? We had like.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
We had like clen Day Cat, you.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Know, s PC.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Shout out to clund Day Cat.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You know. We had murder one, you know, murder one.
Shout out to the INSTC Murder one. You know. We
had a C. Chill Ac Chill is a brother won
our INSC brothers that passed away. But he was right there.
He was right there with us the whole time. He
was cold blooded too.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
You know, we had a guy by the name of
k Rock Deaf. K Rock Deaf was you know what
I'm saying he was.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
He was one of the generals, you know in the school. So,
you know, in high school at the time, clund Day Cat,
you know, before I learned how the.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Rap, you know, Clunday Cat was the best. You know
what I'm saying. So you know I hung with Cat.
We was real good.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
We was real close. You know. That's how I learned
how to rap, just hanging you know, but I didn't
know you know what what I had, you know inside
of me, you know. So you know Cat was the one,
you know, to help bring it out, not by anything
for me, but just you know, just rubbing off on me.
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Just the scheme of rap, you know what I'm saying.
So that's what it was.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
And when Kat left, that's when I took over.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You know, I hadn't got seasoned, so I started, you know,
battle rapping for money.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
You know, cats would come.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
To you know, to my school too, you know, the
battle rap. And back then, man, you know, brother ain't
had no money or nothing, you know what I'm saying.
But you know I had the gangsters. Man, the gangsters
are puting money on me because remember I was the
best in the school, so the gangsters will put money
on me. You know, I flipped that money by blowing
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the you know, the MC who came to the school
and then they'll give me a piece of the money.
So that's how it was at Jones, man, it was
it was just it was just hardcore rappers. Man. We
had more it's so many more, but you know in
the nurse chair that you know, those were like the
top names.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
It was the main ones. Now, your style was very unique,
very descriptive, very visual. That was one of the things
that come me in. Like I said, when I got
hit to you, it was through my boy shut Out
quint Cazeno, my roommate New Mexico State University. When I
was playing ball. He had hit me. You know, the
south Park cycle. It was very descriptive. But you had
flows though, bro and side was very original. When did
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you come up with the whole horror coret because you
are the inventdor of horror court that whole genre just
descriptive violence and madehem. That's the only way I can
describe it. How did you come up with that?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well? Man, real, I really didn't.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
My idol is Ice team, you know what I'm saying,
rhyme wise, and my other ilel is two short, So
I have the music of a two short, but I
have the hard rhymes you know of an ic C.
So I just I used to just listen to Ice
Tea a lot, man, you know, and I just like
how hard he was because nobody was doing the gangster
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rap and ice was so hard, you know, and that's
just you know, that's really ought of me, you know,
to where to how I wanted to rap. But I
didn't know that it was gonna go deeper, you know
what I'm saying that. You know, then gangster rap, horror
court is deeper than against the rap is more. It's
more vivid, you know, it's more, it's more detailed, it's
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more imagery. And you have to have a you know,
you have to have a certain skill stick, you know.
So the homie Bushwick rest in peace. He was doing
an interview with a guy named nord Ward and a
white guy in in Austin, I think, doing one of
those what's that south by Southwest? And he asked, he asked, Bushwie,
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did I create hard Court? Bushwick said no. He said
he didn't have to create it because his horror court,
you know, he wasn't gonna he said, he wasn't gonna
get any other style, and and they wasn't. You know.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
That's that's all I ever did. I was I was
wrapping her hold court Man eighty three, eighty four.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I just didn't know it was hardorcle. I called it
psycho rap. You know, that's what I called it, psycho rap.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
You know, I was trying to go back to one
of not to cut you off. I want to go
back to one of the most profound lyrics I heard
on your album, merriags me and your mama getting married
soon after If for I'm a killer at the honeymoon,
that's how you know, that's real descriptive. And I think
you did take things to a whole nother level because
you wouldn't know that. It wasn't just that she was
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on there saying the craziest stuff. It was the way
you delivered it. It sounded real. Man. I was like, man,
this dude is off the chain.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well, you know, like I said, man, you know, I'm
from South Park, you know, yeah, you know you had
to be hard in south Park. You know, you have
to be able to make it through. You know, Onner
the Star would survive. You know. I was just a
young souldierack there, just you know, creating my own style
battle rapping whoever came, you know, and I just was
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just just strong on them, just with stuff that they
never heard. Remember, was never hurt nobody, you know, nobody
wasn't doing it.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
So I didn't know I was doing it.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I was just doing my normal style that I that
that I rapped in, you know what I'm saying. So
I never really knew that that the industry with coining,
you know, to be horror core. You know, like I said,
I started, I called a psycho rap.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Mhm. It was damn sure. A lot of people that
followed after you after you released that album. That was
a very important album to hip hop because you did
ushering a new style with a lot of people from
I could think of a few people off the top
like Brother Link, se E, Sean Maud of Detroit, even Eminem.
It had a real heavy influence on a lot of people.
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And how did you get discovered? Like how did you
look up a rap? A lot?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Man? I like to say, shout out to Scarface? Man
was it was through Scarface? You know. I was at
a club called Club Infinity, and every Friday night they
would have rap contests, know every Friday night. So what
happened was, you know, I ended up winning like three three,
three times straight and that third time, you know, Scarface
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was there. He he had just dropped you know, the
first original Scarface you know, small time dope game cold
Caine pushing rocks on the block. I'm never broke, and
you know what I'm saying. He had just dropped that,
and he was there for that third that third contest,
and I won. So you know, he came to me
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and he and he said he wanted he wanted to
let Jay Prince hear me. So I told him, just
you know, bring him, you know, next, you know, next Friday.
So he actually brought him. So I won again. So
I won four times straight. So after that, Jay took
me in the restroom, you know with the with the brotherhood,
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with the you know, you know, with the killers, and
he wanted me to just straight up wrap, no beat,
no nothing. So I was just going just rhyme for rhymes,
hard as fuck to just shit that he had never heard,
he had never heard. Keep in mind, this was a
Friday night. So I was beating all on the motherfucking
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mirrors and shit, you know what I'm saying. I was
hitting the mirrors, breaking the mirrors. Man, I was straight
syped out. So after he heard me, you know what
I'm saying, he loved it. So he had asked me
to come back to that same club Saturday morning meet
him there like twelve o'clock. Once I met him there,
I had a CD with everybody on it. I had
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Dopiel of the Terrace, I had Ka Reno, I had
point Blank, I had Murder of One, I had ac Chill,
I had all the fellas on the CD.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
But Jay said he just wanted me to go solo.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And then when he said that, he cut me a
check right then and there inside of his car, cut
me a chick. And two hours after that I was
riding BMW.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
So your whole life changed just in the matter with
a chance meeting the scarface. Let me ask you this.
Let me go back, because that sounds like a movie
to me. You in the bathroom rapping for Jay Princeton,
you seeing the type of stuff that you said up
but they they're just mesmerized here you rap.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
You know that style was so hard, man, you couldn't
you couldn't do nothing but be mesmerize. And that ship
was you know, it was so it was so vivid,
you know what I'm saying. But at the same time, man,
you know I was about that ship, you know what
I'm saying. So you know I was I was robbing
you know, coming up, man, you know you remember I
think it was like horror moving rap. Tise. Could the
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task it? Man? You know? Now think about it, Chinsk,
get a task it. The name of that song is
horror movie rap. That's how the industry coined it, horror
core from my song horror movie rap.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
For those that don't know, man, because your style is
so descriptive, man, could you give me like eight bars
from that man? Just just eight of them, man, not
all of them, not the whole thing for those that
might never heard of it?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Which which one?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Now? Let me give you.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Let me give you that on.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Let me steal a psycho ass nigger. I'm dissing your crew.
If you don't like the way I wrapped tough ship, nigga,
fuck you. Time for a murder, I'm thinnykick ass breastfeed
new born babies with unlady gas, blood gushing out. Your
head is getting thicky and thicker. Put some tockling on
your arm so it can taste like a snicker. You
know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, that was that ship. And I just picture because
I know Jay, right, I just could picture Jay's being
back there, like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Now picture this shit. This ship was this ship was
late late ninety mm hmm. This shit was ninety man.
I was kicking that shit, you know. So he couldn't
do nothing, man, And shit was just so it was
so distinctive, man, that's all the world. It was just
something that he never had, you know. So he had
to grab that, man.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
And it took off. So now you want to wrap
a lot fold. You got you a check. How soon
did y'all get to work with Craft and the album?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Oh? Man, soon soon I got that check, man, probably
about I said about a good week. Now. You know,
I was at the studio, you know, with Dope E,
you know egypt E, the terrorists, you know John Beato,
you know Biato did a lot of scarf play stuff,
you know, had them drum. Yeah, he actually did that
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that song Psycho. You know, he did that cycle with
I just spit so Beato Beato.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Once cold blooded man.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You know. So I was in there, you know, like
I said, with Dope E egypt E, we did a
tisket a task and we did the guy to get
out the game. Beato did the you know, the Psycho,
and it was just you know, it's just what it was.
I was, like I said, I was just a young
nigga out there just just battle rapping. Man, it just
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happened to, you know, be at the club winning these
contests and faces.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
You know, just happened to be there. Man.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Shout out to Scarface, Shout out to J Prince. You
know what I'm saying. You know, I owe them, Owe
them everything, man, So you know it's all love.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Like the homie sugar Free say, if you stay ready,
you ain't got to be ready. You was prepared for
the opportunity and to happen for you. You know, let
me ask you this. So y'all working on the album,
and any time did anyone from Rap a Lot ever
come to you and say, hey man, you know we
dig what you're doing, but can you tone it down
a little bitter? They just let you just go full
gas sit you.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Know, Rap a Lot he's gangster man. Let me They
let me go.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
They let me go.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
That's how I was able to write the check it
for Bushwick.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Oh for sure we're gonna get were gonna get into
that right there. We're gonna get into that right there.
So how long did it take for you guys to
record the album? Because I know sometimes for me working
in the industry, you may and the time you signed
someone until they actually get to release they projects. Sometimes
it may be two or three years. How long did
it take before you got your release date?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
See? About three months? Man. We dropped it late. We
got to late ninety one. You know, the industry got
it set up to where it was like ninety two,
But it was actually December of ninety one.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
So December ninety one, that's when it first came off.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, I said about Like I said, man, it ain't
take about I say about three months because you know,
other people had had to get in the studio on
all that. But it ain't taken about three months because
I was you know, back then, we had all our
round to memorize so I could go in there.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
All I needed was to beat, and I was just
going there and just just.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Fit the shit. Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
So let me ask you this. Man, the album comes out,
you start doing shows and everything. I can just imagine
the type of crowd that you conjure up at your shows. Man,
is it all like God's look to it?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Man? That ship Man was so raw, you know, just
just just just the gangsters. Man. The hardest the most
ruthless you know people, you know, yeah, just come out
to the shoulder, you know, to hear that shit. That's
it was just so different. It was just different, man,
you know what I'm saying, Like like the big HOMEI Shaq.
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You know, I just talked to Shack Monday. You know,
Monday was my birthday. You know, yeah already you know.
Sequille O'Neil is one of my biggest fans, and you
know I had the opportunity to talk to him Monday
and he was just telling me man, you know, you
know basically how you know how big old fan he was.
He'd been my fan. They used to come down there,
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come to Houston when when Shaq was rapping, and he
would be asking rapper out where I was. I might
have been out of town, you know, doing the show.
You know this, Shaq would always holler at me, man,
So I like to stay shout out to Big Shack
one Love. You know that's the diesel man, that's my
knees of her.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Well, you got a lot of fans, man, My big
bro Bobcat, my god brother DJ Bobcat. I remember we
were listening to the it was the Ghetto Boys album.
I forget which one he is. It might have been
to death Dowist Apart. Yeah, and you had a and
that's when he discovered you. And I was playing in
the CD or whatever and he heards your first he said,
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who is that right there sitting in shirts drinking the
forty of hold?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
That was that brand? That was that song bringing on
Man you Gassed? Yeah, that was a battle rap song.
That was one of the verses man, that really that
really helped spawned me as well, you know what I'm saying,
everywhere I go, I'm talking about right today, any where
I go people you know, they spent that verse, you know,
all the time everywhere. Man, you know, we smoking motherfucker.
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Plus I keep doovies. I'm the one who told that
nigga to go and singing in that Lovis And what's
so crazy? I went to the end of the day
at Levis.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, let me ask you this man, with your lyrics,
man being so over the top. Back then, a lot
of rappers was catching heat, like you know, they was
over there running brother CDs over, putting them in the
trash and all kind of stuff. Did you ever have
the rappert that we have any issues man, which as
far as your music, No.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
They never had any issue with me. Like I said, Man, Jay,
you know, Jay wanted people around him. That was you know, yeah,
I get that.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I'm talking about the outside forces. I'm talking about like
the law enforcement and everything like that, because you were talking, Yes,
that's I ain't talking about the fame. I'm talking about
society in general.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, man, you know you had a I was on
the news, you know, probably like ninety three on the
news when a you know, when a guy killed a
cop man and they said he was he was he
was branging my song, you know, Slaughter. Slaughter was the
cop killing song on you know, on the on the
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on the album, and he was banging my mother fuck
the song. They had my lyrics all on TV, all
on the news, you know, and you know, dope, E
are the terrorists SPC. You know. I think he had
got pulled over, you know, and I think he told
the cops who he was, and they asked about men
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what they snip at man, you know, you know, but
it's all good man. But I was just raw man,
you know. So they would always have my shit on
the news, you know, putt my lyrics out there, you know,
saying this saying that. But shit, like I said, man
back then, I ain't give a fuck. You know, I'm
gonna pick that ship, you know what I'm saying. You
know how it goes. You know, I got I got
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one right now. The new song you leave us no choice,
that's the name of the song. So be looking for
that that's coming soon.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I always like to shut off to the trolls out there.
You know, it's always one dumb motherfucker. You're talking about
one thing, and it's always one dude to come on
the show talk about some whole others. Bye bye chump.
But anyway back to this, well.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You know, man, you know I fuck with the trolls
because you know, you know a lot of time the trolls,
you know, may not really trolls. They just uneducated to
the to who created the style. You know, they're just uneducated, man.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
That's why I keep me in ink pin.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
You know, I keep an ink pin for the trolls.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Now. My mama always told me a black man always
got to have an ink pin, you know, just in
case you need you need to sign a check. You
know what I'm saying, Oh, cut a Nick, here we go.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I would expect you. I would expect you to be
card a rounds and stuff like that. So the dope
part about that though, man, you being on rap a lot,
none of that deterred them from pushing forward with you,
because usually the those major record labels, when they have
any type of resistance, they get scared to pull the
plug on everything.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, you know, I think they didn't really know, you know,
really how to promote it, man, So I just think
they put that shit. You know, they let it go
on the underground. Man, they let it go on the
underground just to see what, you.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Know, what it would do.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
And you know, I hit Billboard with no promotion, no
radio play, nothing, but you know underground promotion magazines, you
know that type of shit, word them out and and
the ship just flooished.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Think about it.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I hit Billboard with no promotion, so no radio play,
you know, just the strength of my hard rhymes, man,
you know what I'm saying. So it is what it is, man,
It's just the facts. You can't deny that. That's why,
you know, you know, the trolls don't really you know,
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they just need to be educated. Man. You know what
I'm saying, so I said, shout out.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You know, yeah, this said, man, we ain't gonna pay
them dudes. No, never mind tonight, it's all about you,
brother and paying the MARDs to you and what you
got going on. Because I remember at that time, man,
it got real serious and rap man, especially because I
remember Ice Tea took a lot of heat for the
cop Killer album, man, and they were just out there.
You know, they was pretty much kicking Brothers off the lake,
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but they was letting people go. He was cutting Brothers
checks and saying, you got to take that somewhere else.
We're not having it. So you do this, man, this
time you full fledged. Like you said, I believe that
that appearance that you had to get a boys album,
it definitely took you to another level and elevated you. Right,
So now you're in the fold. Man, how did you
come up to do the song for Bush would be
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a Rest in Peace Bushwack?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Well, you know, the album was coming, man, and you know,
J Prinsad came.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
To me and you know, he asked me, you know,
you know that I want to you know, did I
want to write something you know? Or would I write
for Bill? But ship I ain't really know what to
write at the time, you know, so you know, you know,
Gaveston is about an hour away. So what happened was,
you know, Jay had rented a beach house. So you know,
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we all you know, the whole rap a lot, you
know what I'm saying. Possy went up went up to
the to the beach house and you know back then,
we you know, I was smoking Hello weed and ship,
you know what I'm saying. So Mushard was up there
and I just had came up, you know with that
because it hit him. You know what, what could I
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write for? You know what I'm saying for a midget?
You know, you know one of the one of the
Chucky movies was out, so it just it just fit perfect, man.
And then I just wrote the ship right up there,
you know. And you know I got a bunch of bread,
you know, for doing it. Shout out to J Prince,
you know what I'm saying, much love, like I said, man,
all everything to J Prince, you know, even though I
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had my own.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Label now, you know, but I thank God for the time.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
You know, you know that that I was gonna rap
a lot for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
That was a good look. With for you, man, and
you did. I believe four albums total would rap a lot, right.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I think it was five to da Let's see south
Park Psycho Psychic Thoughts interview with a Killer, the Genius,
the Genius, And I think, man, I think it's.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Probably one more.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I know, I know those four for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
You did, man, You know the thing is for you
to have four or five records with them, Man, that's big.
It was a lot of artists. It's most artists only
get to release one major album, man, And you kind
of got it out the mud. Because if I'm correct,
and correct me if I'm wrong, the south Park cycle
came out independently on Wrap a Lot Records. It was
just Wrap a Lot through their own distribution.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Right to let me see, I think no, I think
by that time, you know, I think they had got
I think they had got distribution at that particular time. Yeah,
because that's how I got. That's how it went worldwide,
That's how I got. That's how I got the billboard,
you know. So So I think yeah, because because.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
You eventually wound up getting to deal with priority, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
We had priority and.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Other people man before priority.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
It'll come to me. But Yeah, we definitely had the priority.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
So I noticed you would be on a lot of
the Ghetto Boy releases, right right, Scarface always and he
was the one that brought in the game. It makes
sense now, right, you have a relationship that you had
with them. So, Man, I want to go back, man
to something that we talked about a little bit earlier. Man,
we talked about censorship. How your record label let you go.
(25:52):
Do you think you would be able to release a
record like south Park Cycle the Day in twenty twenty three?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I think I will, you know, my album about to
come out, you know, the Greatest Horror Volume too, you know,
But ship, I don't. Between you and I, I don't
released you know a few haror Core you know albums
that's on all major platforms.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Man, all you gotta do it.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Just go anywhere iTunes, whatever type in gangs, the nept
g A n x S T A g A n
x x t A. You know, if you don't have
the X in it, then then then that's not that's
not mine. Put up eight albums. I just put up
(26:41):
like eight albums.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Y'all. Hear that out there? Go support this brother's work.
He's still bringing that work. He's still slinging that blade.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Psych Ward Entertainment, man, that's the name of my label,
psych Ward Entertainment. Like I'm saying, you can go on
any platform and just type in G A N N
S T A NIP and you're gonna see the Guard
of Horror Coord, the Creator of Horror Coord. You know
what I'm saying, Guard of Horror coord, Creator of Horror Coord.
(27:11):
You know abbage like that that you you know that's
and then you'll see why I created the shit, you know. So, yeah,
I ain't hit changed. The shit is the same, you
know what I'm talking about. So I mean steal Psycho too, you.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Know what I'm talking about. So I got eight of
them bangers.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
You know what I'm saying. If you want to just see,
go see you know what I'm saying. So that way
you can, you know, you can, you'll know how the
shit really came about, you know what I'm saying. Now.
One thing about me, man, I'm a you know, I'm
a Brother Lynch fan. Shout out to Brother Lynch. I
call him the Guard of his style rip gud. One
thing about me, I don't do heye, I do elevate
(27:56):
and congratulate and celebrate, you know, shout out to the
home each some each something.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
That's the Homer.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
He came to Houston, did a show, and and and
and blessed me to get on the show with him,
you know, paid me to get on the show, and
then did a did a song with me. See that's
real right there. You know what I'm saying. And I
call him, you know, the the god of acid acid rap. See.
So it's everybody have their own little thing. That's why
(28:23):
I'll be tripping when they be trying to say a
record each Sam never said he did Horricort, brother Lynch
never said he did holcortfinite.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
They could be inspired by somebody, you know. It ain't
nothing wrong with taking inspiration from something else and putting
your own twist on it. Because those brothers are definitely original.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah, most definitely. So you know on that you you
you'll have to ask them.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
But you know, I'm just you know, I'm just like
to show love, you know what I'm saying to cats
Man because I'm fans as well, you know, I'm I'm
one of their fans as well. So I would like
to do really, I would like to do a show
like a tour with me, Brother Lynz E sim take nine.
You know what I'm saying, all them, you know, Stephen King, Gordon,
(29:08):
all of these cats.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Man.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
You know I got love man, one thing by me.
I don't do eight.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I just innovate and create, motivate and celebrate. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
That's all you can do, man, That's all we're supposed
to do is black folks. You know what I'm saying,
All this unnecessary drama and the women and all that stuff.
I don't do all that either, bro, because you know,
life too short for all that. Man, Yes, sir, And
there's definitely a lot of people out here that love you, man,
That's what I was telling brothers.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Man.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
See the problem man, I see in hip hop a
lot of times you have veteran artists and people would
get stuck on that one classic album. And you're telling me,
over than that, them brothers are still doing music. This
brother got eight nine more albums that out there for
y'all consumption. Go support them. And I think the biggest
part of it is that's why I wanted to bring
you on here, is when you're searching you you got
(29:57):
the king snip because you had a couple of different
spelling your name right then go you are so lazy nowadays,
if they can't find it, they just assume ain't nothing
there and they go on to the next thing. So
you'll hear the brother say that name one more.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Time so they man, you gotta you gotta type it end.
You know, I got my own label, Psyche Ward Entertainment,
and my name is still g A n x s
t e A n I P. I'm gonna stay it again.
G A n x s t A n I P.
(30:32):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
The X only means the X is unknown.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
It means xing out all of b s. You know,
I have my own I have my own label. I'm
doing my own thing. You know I'm down with the nation.
That's why the X is unknown.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
You know I roll with the guards.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I'm the guard of Hall Record. You know you can
take that and let it alone. It is what it is.
You know, my album then come out. My album did
come out worldwide. You know. First I hate to beat
the boy three different times.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
On three different albums.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
You know I got golden platinum plaque. You know what
I'm saying I.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Got those from my album.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I got those for writing the Chucky for Butschwick. You know,
you know platinum, pat, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Speaking the golden platinum like you saw that, Joe. Butden's
just got his gold plaque for Pump it Up right right?
I would think about no, man, you think South Park
Cycle on? So when gold on?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
So far?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
You think that, when is the last time you ever
checked that?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Well, you know South Pust Cycle. You know South Pust
Cycle is platinum, man, you know right right now South
Pust Cycle on eBay and different little platforms going for
three hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Man, Yeah, for sure, I've seen it.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
You can't even you can't even.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Get South Pust Cycle for a hundred three hundred you
know that that lets you know, you know, But like
I said, you know it's about one point six man,
you know, so it is it is what it is. Like.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
That's a blessing, though, bro, because you got a lot
of people out there. I'm telling you, I wouldn't be
surprised if Doctor Dray was banging your music, dog, because
you have that type of impact people like it was
really on your.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Ship, man, I ain't know, That's why I just told
you that's why I start called me. You know what
I'm saying, that's why my intro is too short, too short.
About two months ago, he was just talking about me
and told him to play psycho. You know, me and
two Short too show used to fly to Houston. I
used to go pick Short up from the airport, take
him to the after hours, do his shows with him
(32:33):
standing behind him. Make sure nobody's fucking with him, Me
and my homies standing behind him. Let him do his show,
then go to the after hours. You know so you
can ask Short. I got it on my intro. You
know what I'm saying, Short, I said it himself. He
said that ship on eggin radio on rock the bells
shout out to LLL.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
You know so you can't. You can't deny the fact.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
That's that's what's wrong with niggas. Niggas want to deny
the face that you cannot deny facts.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
All the time, they you know what, they would rewrite history.
They were twisted up the facts and everything else. Man.
But you know what, that's all right. That's what we
got platforms like this to get the word out and
let people know what's going on. Yes, sir, so do
you have a website or anything.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Well, man, I just I just me honestly. I send niggas.
I just send niggas straight to the to the platforms.
You know what I'm saying, Go go go stream that,
Go buy, go stream it. You know what I'm saying.
That's all I want. That's all I want you to do.
You can just go see for yourself. You know, I'm
about to drop the Greatest Horrors Volume two, you know album,
probably in a month. But I but I have the
(33:42):
greatest album, Greatest Horrors Volume one that's out right now.
I have The Guard of Horror Cord that's out right now.
I have the Creator of Horror coord that's out right now.
I have Steel Psycho two that's out right now. I
have h Town Legend that out right now. These are
all record albums, man, and they under novel. So you
(34:05):
gotta do just go to YouTube, not YouTube, but iTunes.
Go to Spotify, g A E X S P A
N I P. You know what I'm talking about, and
uill see And.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
You heard it right there. You heard it right there
with Nick Man. I appreciate you. Man, coming on, man,
I know you are a few hours ahead of us, man,
and we did this kind of short notice, man, But
I really appreciate it, man, because you are definitely one
of my favorite artists. Donny shot to me, Donny Houston.
I told Donny Houston, me and him talk a lot,
and I said, Man, tall games to Nip Man. I
(34:40):
gotta holler at him.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I need to holler at him already, man, And that's
a that's a blessing.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Shout out to I call him DH Man. I call
I call you know when I go up to dh I.
You know, I call it dh Vill when I do
my interviews with him. I'm staying in dh Vill.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Shout out to Donny Houston. Man, we love down in Houston,
big Steeal We'll be back, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
And oh for sure, you definitely be back. Man. We
definite we go have you on against the Chronicles, dog.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I want to get on that.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah, against the Chronicles Dog. We got a lot of
we got a real big reach over there, especially on
the audio, man, So I want to get you on there.
I want to do this with you all little, one
on one so I can get my little personal fan
boy ship off the way for sure, and then I
want you to know me and eight is actually gonna
come down to Houston. I think we'd be down there
in the January, So I definitely want to do it
(35:28):
the right way. When we do that, that one that's
that's gotta be the live sit down, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Sir, shout out the n C A man, I've been
a fan of eight Man for some other fucking loan. Man,
the hood will take you under man, come on.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Man, he is a man of yours as he.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Is a big fan of eight Man.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
You know, EF eight is a is a complete legend man.
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
So like I said, man, I'm on it. You know
what I'm talking about. And Cat's just gotta gone and
just you just gotta give it up, man, you know
what I'm saying. Whether you you know like this rap
that rapper man just real niggas we did in facts,
go look that ship up.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Miam came out late ninety one. Southwest Cycle was the only.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Hor record full length album out in America and overseas worldwide.
Board I hit the beerboard with no promotion, no radio play,
just the strength of hard ass rhymes. You know what
I'm saying. It ain't nothing changed. You know what I'm
talking about, Still the same, like I stayed, Go look
(36:34):
on Spotify iTunes. You know what I'm saying. Wherever you
want to go g a n x Sta n IRP,
creator of horror coord No.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I'm gonna make sure I got that in the description,
brother Babble linked to all your albums in the description.
So if you don't give me about five minutes, I'm
gonna make sure all less populated down there.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Man.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I really appreciate you, brother, I really appreciate you. Coming on, man,
I appreciate you. Y'all. Make sure it's your Instagram, man, Well.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
My Instagram is just look up Rowdy Rowdy Williams. That's
my real name r R O W d Y Gangster
Nip Williams.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
When I found out that was your government name, bro,
I said, man, that's something else. The type of music
this man's name and his government name is rowdy because
you are rowdy, you.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Know my mama, and my mama gakes me the right name. Man.
You know, so there's Rowdy Gangstennip Williams, you know, and
it's Rowdy Williams on Facebook, you know. So at Psycho
Nip on Twitter, you know. And then my YouTube is
the Real gangst Nip. That's where all the videos at,
the Real Gangster Nip. You know what I'm saying. I
(37:43):
just I was just on Donna Houston. He did the
Top ten, I did my I did my new song
called fingers Sharpener. Who you know gonna make a song
called fingers sharpen though, you know that you know what
I'm saying, that fingers sharpening. See, I used to be
a carpin to, so let me turn their fingers softener.
(38:04):
So let me turn it again. I remember this in school,
so let me learn it again. You know, trust me, man, man,
listen that fingers softener. So motherfucker heart, you know, talking
about a nigga, say, used to be a used to
be a teacher's hand turned into a creature's hand, kind
(38:25):
of looking like it's Freddy's hand. Fred and Barnie rubber
Wilmer told me that it's Betty's hand. You're gonna talking
about the shit wicked, man, you know, just gotta know, man. Plus,
it got them two short, funked out ass beats. That's
what makes that's what makes the connection, the beats with
the rhymes. You know you gotta have both of them.
(38:46):
You know, if you don't have both of them plus
the visual the visualization of what you're talking about, see horror.
Let me explain this to these cats, man, you catch
horror core is more than just a physical style. It's
a mental stuff and it also has a spiritual aspect.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
It's where you take it.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
The problem with you niggas, y'all keep that shit just
on the lower base value, which.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Is the physical style.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Nigga, I'm the god.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I got the physical, the mental, and the spiritual style
of horror court. You know what.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
You just touched on something. And this is what I
want to say, because black folks, you know how we
are religion. I had some folks when I would play
your CD, why you listen to that devil worship and stuff?
And I would say it, not one time did this
man every say on their CD worship the devil? Never
that one time he talks one big ship, but he never,
(39:41):
not one time, said nothing about most Satanism on that.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
That's another thing I'm glad you mentioned that.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Do this can't be thinking.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Horror coor is devil worshiping. It's not see the ship
was in me just from from birds. You know, I
never never said I watched the devil. I'm in the nat.
Put this motherfucker cring. You know what I'm saying. You
see that star in Christen, you know what I'm saying.
So that horrorcore shit is in me. You know I'm
(40:09):
talking about. So that's just the physical plane, that's just
my detention mechanism. You heard. You know, So all niggas
out there start worshiping Satan, you know what I'm saying,
because I didn't create horrcorre for you to worship Satan.
I never said that shit. And my song always killed
the devil, not worshiping. What the fuck you're doing worship?
(40:29):
You know what I'm saying, The motherfucker devil the fuck.
Your horrorcor is a visual style with immense, high powered imagery.
Horrorcord is a is a style where you don't need
a scream. Your lyrics is the picture. You don't need
a movie scream. If you're doing horrorcor right and your
(40:51):
shit is vivid enough, you'll never need a scream because
your lyrics is the movie. You know what I'm talking about.
You life, life is a movie.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
We just all playing part.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
You're for real, for real, for real, for real.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Before we get up out of here, man, I want
to give another shout out to Donnie Houston. Y'all make
sure y'all go check your show out. Donnie is really
the he really puts on for the city of Houston,
and I love that brother for that anytime. And I'm
a big fan of his channel, you know, as he
is what we do. Donnie Houston, y'all make sure y'all
go check him out, man, because anything that's going on
(41:28):
in Age down he pretty much don't have everything. Everybody
from Houston on that show, right, He's had everyone from
Houston on that show, and I love that about that brother.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Shout out down Houston every name. Man. Shout out to
the HPC, you know what I'm saying. Shout out to
bumb man. Shout out to the trill Burgers. Man, y'all
need to check out that bumbe trill Burger man.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Down there doing his thing.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Man.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
I'm so proud of him. Man, that's awesome. Man.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Bond, listen, let me tell you something about Bond before
I go. Every time Bond do an interview and they
into horror Court, he always telling them, Man Nip been
doing that shit way before. You know what I'm saying,
Cat's came out, Cats came out. I've been doing Horror
Court eighty three. You know what I'm saying. Then, I'm
fifty four years old. Look still you know that nation
(42:17):
got a brother, Still looking good, still vibing, still hardcore,
still higher level. You know what I'm saying, consciousness, how
you level thinking, and definitely how you level. You know
what I'm saying, Horror coord So it's so much more,
you know what I'm saying coming up, So just keep
you know, just just stay tuned, you know what I'm saying.
Like I said, go to the platforms, g A, n
(42:39):
X S, t A.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Make I'm gonna make sure they get there, Bro, I'm
gonna make sure they got it right too. So there
we go, Man, Gangs Nip Man, y'all make sure y'all
go stream this man's music, go follow him on Instagram
because he's truly one of our legends. Let's start giving
our legends to flowers while they're still here.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah. Sure, Before I go, I just want to shout
out to the home and e eave Sam. Shout out
to the homie brother Lynx. Shout out to Take nine.
You know what I'm saying. Shout out to Eminem you know,
anybody that's doing hard. Shout out to the Juggalos. Shout
out to my homeboy Mastermind and Detroit. Shout out to
Russ Cole. Shout out to the Hell's Rage in Cincinnati.
(43:23):
You know what I'm saying. Shout out to the homie
really really, you know what I'm saying, the homie, Jordan
King and the SPC for sure.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
So y'all hear it out there now. I messed with y'all,
tick all y'all out there, man, tick and with my
homeboys insane clown policy.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Man.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
We need yeah, I done los, you know, we need
at the next gatherer. Have they have you done together
in the Juggalos yet?
Speaker 1 (43:48):
H Man? They they did contact me one year. I
think I was I think I was doing some shows
so I couldn't do that particular one, so they did
reach out to me.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
You know, man, I'm gonna try to set that up
for You need to go do that and number all
there taking them too. Dog. You need to be out.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
You know people want to see you dog already.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
But we gonna talk offline about that business man. We
appreciate y'all. Man, this is something we gonna start doing
every Sunday. Make sure y'all check this week's episode The
Gainst the Chronicles off and all that. And from that
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
All right, job all across the USC Compton watch Bank
to La, come on to California, say from aalley to valley.
We represent that Keller County. So if you're keeping it
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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Speaker 3 (00:40):
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(01:00):
comment what's happening, what's happening? What's happening tonight? We have
a very we got a very very special guest in
the house tonight. He was born to the world as
Rowdy Williams, but you know him as Gangster Nipping already.
Broadcasting live all the way from Houston, Texas. What's happening
with you? Brother?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Oh man, I'm just telling man, Guard is good. You know,
I'm just blessed to be here. Man. You know what
I'm saying. I appreciate you for having me, for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That's what's up for sure, man, Thank you for coming on.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
We've had a lot of people. Man. You know, when
I started mixing the album a few weeks ago, I
started getting people hitting me up on an inbox like
gangs Nip. That's my he produced one of my favorite
albums of all time, south Park Cycle before. But before
we get into that, man, we got to go back
way to the beginning. Wait at the beginning. So we
were born and raised in Houston the right, Yes, sir,
(01:58):
south Park? South Park to be yes, sir, south Park. Yeah,
that's your hood, man, tell me a little bit about it. Man.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
You know, South Park is just you know, it's just
a rugged you know, it's like any other hood. Man,
it's a rugged hood. Man. You know, you gotta be strong,
you know, to live there. You know. I went to
Kelso Elementary, Hartman Junior High and Jesse H. Jones High School.
You know, you know when you got you know, your killers, dealers, hustlers, stillers,
(02:34):
whatever it is. Man. Like I say, it's just the
average hood man. You just got to be strong to
live there.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Okay. Now, when you were in high school, I think
your high school is known for having for your rappers,
right you had a lot of rappers to attend high school, right, Yes, sir,
Who were some of those people?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Man? We had like.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
We had like clen Day Cat, you.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Know, s PC.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Shout out to clund Day Cat.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You know. We had murder one, you know, murder one.
Shout out to the INSTC Murder one. You know. We
had a C. Chill Ac Chill is a brother won
our INSC brothers that passed away. But he was right there.
He was right there with us the whole time. He
was cold blooded too.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
You know, we had a guy by the name of
k Rock Deaf. K Rock Deaf was you know what
I'm saying he was.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
He was one of the generals, you know in the school. So,
you know, in high school at the time, clund Day Cat,
you know, before I learned how the.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Rap, you know, Clunday Cat was the best. You know
what I'm saying. So you know I hung with Cat.
We was real good.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
We was real close. You know. That's how I learned
how to rap, just hanging you know, but I didn't
know you know what what I had, you know inside
of me, you know. So you know Cat was the one,
you know, to help bring it out, not by anything
for me, but just you know, just rubbing off on me.
(04:04):
Just the scheme of rap, you know what I'm saying.
So that's what it was.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
And when Kat left, that's when I took over.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You know, I hadn't got seasoned, so I started, you know,
battle rapping for money.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
You know, cats would come.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
To you know, to my school too, you know, the
battle rap. And back then, man, you know, brother ain't
had no money or nothing, you know what I'm saying.
But you know I had the gangsters. Man, the gangsters
are puting money on me because remember I was the
best in the school, so the gangsters will put money
on me. You know, I flipped that money by blowing
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the you know, the MC who came to the school
and then they'll give me a piece of the money.
So that's how it was at Jones, man, it was
it was just it was just hardcore rappers. Man. We
had more it's so many more, but you know in
the nurse chair that you know, those were like the
top names.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
It was the main ones. Now, your style was very unique,
very descriptive, very visual. That was one of the things
that come me in. Like I said, when I got
hit to you, it was through my boy shut Out
quint Cazeno, my roommate New Mexico State University. When I
was playing ball. He had hit me. You know, the
south Park cycle. It was very descriptive. But you had
flows though, bro and side was very original. When did
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you come up with the whole horror coret because you
are the inventdor of horror court that whole genre just
descriptive violence and madehem. That's the only way I can
describe it. How did you come up with that?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well? Man, real, I really didn't.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
My idol is Ice team, you know what I'm saying,
rhyme wise, and my other ilel is two short, So
I have the music of a two short, but I
have the hard rhymes you know of an ic C.
So I just I used to just listen to Ice
Tea a lot, man, you know, and I just like
how hard he was because nobody was doing the gangster
(05:54):
rap and ice was so hard, you know, and that's
just you know, that's really ought of me, you know,
to where to how I wanted to rap. But I
didn't know that it was gonna go deeper, you know
what I'm saying that. You know, then gangster rap, horror
court is deeper than against the rap is more. It's
more vivid, you know, it's more, it's more detailed, it's
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more imagery. And you have to have a you know,
you have to have a certain skill stick, you know.
So the homie Bushwick rest in peace. He was doing
an interview with a guy named nord Ward and a
white guy in in Austin, I think, doing one of
those what's that south by Southwest? And he asked, he asked, Bushwie,
(06:39):
did I create hard Court? Bushwick said no. He said
he didn't have to create it because his horror court,
you know, he wasn't gonna he said, he wasn't gonna
get any other style, and and they wasn't. You know.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
That's that's all I ever did. I was I was
wrapping her hold court Man eighty three, eighty four.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I just didn't know it was hardorcle. I called it
psycho rap. You know, that's what I called it, psycho rap.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
You know, I was trying to go back to one
of not to cut you off. I want to go
back to one of the most profound lyrics I heard
on your album, merriags me and your mama getting married
soon after If for I'm a killer at the honeymoon,
that's how you know, that's real descriptive. And I think
you did take things to a whole nother level because
you wouldn't know that. It wasn't just that she was
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on there saying the craziest stuff. It was the way
you delivered it. It sounded real. Man. I was like, man,
this dude is off the chain.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well, you know, like I said, man, you know, I'm
from South Park, you know, yeah, you know you had
to be hard in south Park. You know, you have
to be able to make it through. You know, Onner
the Star would survive. You know. I was just a
young souldierack there, just you know, creating my own style
battle rapping whoever came, you know, and I just was
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just just strong on them, just with stuff that they
never heard. Remember, was never hurt nobody, you know, nobody
wasn't doing it.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
So I didn't know I was doing it.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I was just doing my normal style that I that
that I rapped in, you know what I'm saying. So
I never really knew that that the industry with coining,
you know, to be horror core. You know, like I said,
I started, I called a psycho rap.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Mhm. It was damn sure. A lot of people that
followed after you after you released that album. That was
a very important album to hip hop because you did
ushering a new style with a lot of people from
I could think of a few people off the top
like Brother Link, se E, Sean Maud of Detroit, even Eminem.
It had a real heavy influence on a lot of people.
(08:43):
And how did you get discovered? Like how did you
look up a rap? A lot?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Man? I like to say, shout out to Scarface? Man
was it was through Scarface? You know. I was at
a club called Club Infinity, and every Friday night they
would have rap contests, know every Friday night. So what
happened was, you know, I ended up winning like three three,
three times straight and that third time, you know, Scarface
(09:11):
was there. He he had just dropped you know, the
first original Scarface you know, small time dope game cold
Caine pushing rocks on the block. I'm never broke, and
you know what I'm saying. He had just dropped that,
and he was there for that third that third contest,
and I won. So you know, he came to me
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and he and he said he wanted he wanted to
let Jay Prince hear me. So I told him, just
you know, bring him, you know, next, you know, next Friday.
So he actually brought him. So I won again. So
I won four times straight. So after that, Jay took
me in the restroom, you know with the with the brotherhood,
(09:53):
with the you know, you know, with the killers, and
he wanted me to just straight up wrap, no beat,
no nothing. So I was just going just rhyme for rhymes,
hard as fuck to just shit that he had never heard,
he had never heard. Keep in mind, this was a
Friday night. So I was beating all on the motherfucking
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mirrors and shit, you know what I'm saying. I was
hitting the mirrors, breaking the mirrors. Man, I was straight
syped out. So after he heard me, you know what
I'm saying, he loved it. So he had asked me
to come back to that same club Saturday morning meet
him there like twelve o'clock. Once I met him there,
I had a CD with everybody on it. I had
(10:36):
Dopiel of the Terrace, I had Ka Reno, I had
point Blank, I had Murder of One, I had ac Chill,
I had all the fellas on the CD.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
But Jay said he just wanted me to go solo.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And then when he said that, he cut me a
check right then and there inside of his car, cut
me a chick. And two hours after that I was
riding BMW.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
So your whole life changed just in the matter with
a chance meeting the scarface. Let me ask you this.
Let me go back, because that sounds like a movie
to me. You in the bathroom rapping for Jay Princeton,
you seeing the type of stuff that you said up
but they they're just mesmerized here you rap.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
You know that style was so hard, man, you couldn't
you couldn't do nothing but be mesmerize. And that ship
was you know, it was so it was so vivid,
you know what I'm saying. But at the same time, man,
you know I was about that ship, you know what
I'm saying. So you know I was I was robbing
you know, coming up, man, you know you remember I
think it was like horror moving rap. Tise. Could the
(11:41):
task it? Man? You know? Now think about it, Chinsk,
get a task it. The name of that song is
horror movie rap. That's how the industry coined it, horror
core from my song horror movie rap.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
For those that don't know, man, because your style is
so descriptive, man, could you give me like eight bars
from that man? Just just eight of them, man, not
all of them, not the whole thing for those that
might never heard of it?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Which which one?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Now? Let me give you.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Let me give you that on.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Let me steal a psycho ass nigger. I'm dissing your crew.
If you don't like the way I wrapped tough ship, nigga,
fuck you. Time for a murder, I'm thinnykick ass breastfeed
new born babies with unlady gas, blood gushing out. Your
head is getting thicky and thicker. Put some tockling on
your arm so it can taste like a snicker. You
know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, that was that ship. And I just picture because
I know Jay, right, I just could picture Jay's being
back there, like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Now picture this shit. This ship was this ship was
late late ninety mm hmm. This shit was ninety man.
I was kicking that shit, you know. So he couldn't
do nothing, man, And shit was just so it was
so distinctive, man, that's all the world. It was just
something that he never had, you know. So he had
to grab that, man.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
And it took off. So now you want to wrap
a lot fold. You got you a check. How soon
did y'all get to work with Craft and the album?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Oh? Man, soon soon I got that check, man, probably
about I said about a good week. Now. You know,
I was at the studio, you know, with Dope E,
you know egypt E, the terrorists, you know John Beato,
you know Biato did a lot of scarf play stuff,
you know, had them drum. Yeah, he actually did that
(13:36):
that song Psycho. You know, he did that cycle with
I just spit so Beato Beato.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Once cold blooded man.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You know. So I was in there, you know, like
I said, with Dope E egypt E, we did a
tisket a task and we did the guy to get
out the game. Beato did the you know, the Psycho,
and it was just you know, it's just what it was.
I was, like I said, I was just a young
nigga out there just just battle rapping. Man, it just
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happened to, you know, be at the club winning these
contests and faces.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
You know, just happened to be there. Man.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Shout out to Scarface, Shout out to J Prince. You
know what I'm saying. You know, I owe them, Owe
them everything, man, So you know it's all love.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Like the homie sugar Free say, if you stay ready,
you ain't got to be ready. You was prepared for
the opportunity and to happen for you. You know, let
me ask you this. So y'all working on the album,
and any time did anyone from Rap a Lot ever
come to you and say, hey man, you know we
dig what you're doing, but can you tone it down
a little bitter? They just let you just go full
gas sit you.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Know, Rap a Lot he's gangster man. Let me They
let me go.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
They let me go.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
That's how I was able to write the check it
for Bushwick.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Oh for sure we're gonna get were gonna get into
that right there. We're gonna get into that right there.
So how long did it take for you guys to
record the album? Because I know sometimes for me working
in the industry, you may and the time you signed
someone until they actually get to release they projects. Sometimes
it may be two or three years. How long did
it take before you got your release date?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
See? About three months? Man. We dropped it late. We
got to late ninety one. You know, the industry got
it set up to where it was like ninety two,
But it was actually December of ninety one.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
So December ninety one, that's when it first came off.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, I said about Like I said, man, it ain't
take about I say about three months because you know,
other people had had to get in the studio on
all that. But it ain't taken about three months because
I was you know, back then, we had all our
round to memorize so I could go in there.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
All I needed was to beat, and I was just
going there and just just.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Fit the shit. Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
So let me ask you this. Man, the album comes out,
you start doing shows and everything. I can just imagine
the type of crowd that you conjure up at your shows. Man,
is it all like God's look to it?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Man? That ship Man was so raw, you know, just
just just just the gangsters. Man. The hardest the most
ruthless you know people, you know, yeah, just come out
to the shoulder, you know, to hear that shit. That's
it was just so different. It was just different, man,
you know what I'm saying, Like like the big HOMEI Shaq.
(16:20):
You know, I just talked to Shack Monday. You know,
Monday was my birthday. You know, yeah already you know.
Sequille O'Neil is one of my biggest fans, and you
know I had the opportunity to talk to him Monday
and he was just telling me man, you know, you
know basically how you know how big old fan he was.
He'd been my fan. They used to come down there,
(16:42):
come to Houston when when Shaq was rapping, and he
would be asking rapper out where I was. I might
have been out of town, you know, doing the show.
You know this, Shaq would always holler at me, man,
So I like to stay shout out to Big Shack
one Love. You know that's the diesel man, that's my
knees of her.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Well, you got a lot of fans, man, My big
bro Bobcat, my god brother DJ Bobcat. I remember we
were listening to the it was the Ghetto Boys album.
I forget which one he is. It might have been
to death Dowist Apart. Yeah, and you had a and
that's when he discovered you. And I was playing in
the CD or whatever and he heards your first he said,
(17:22):
who is that right there sitting in shirts drinking the
forty of hold?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
That was that brand? That was that song bringing on
Man you Gassed? Yeah, that was a battle rap song.
That was one of the verses man, that really that
really helped spawned me as well, you know what I'm saying,
everywhere I go, I'm talking about right today, any where
I go people you know, they spent that verse, you know,
all the time everywhere. Man, you know, we smoking motherfucker.
(17:53):
Plus I keep doovies. I'm the one who told that
nigga to go and singing in that Lovis And what's
so crazy? I went to the end of the day
at Levis.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, let me ask you this man, with your lyrics,
man being so over the top. Back then, a lot
of rappers was catching heat, like you know, they was
over there running brother CDs over, putting them in the
trash and all kind of stuff. Did you ever have
the rappert that we have any issues man, which as
far as your music, No.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
They never had any issue with me. Like I said, Man, Jay,
you know, Jay wanted people around him. That was you know, yeah,
I get that.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I'm talking about the outside forces. I'm talking about like
the law enforcement and everything like that, because you were talking, Yes,
that's I ain't talking about the fame. I'm talking about
society in general.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, man, you know you had a I was on
the news, you know, probably like ninety three on the
news when a you know, when a guy killed a
cop man and they said he was he was he
was branging my song, you know, Slaughter. Slaughter was the
cop killing song on you know, on the on the
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on the album, and he was banging my mother fuck
the song. They had my lyrics all on TV, all
on the news, you know, and you know, dope, E
are the terrorists SPC. You know. I think he had
got pulled over, you know, and I think he told
the cops who he was, and they asked about men
(19:25):
what they snip at man, you know, you know, but
it's all good man. But I was just raw man,
you know. So they would always have my shit on
the news, you know, putt my lyrics out there, you know,
saying this saying that. But shit, like I said, man
back then, I ain't give a fuck. You know, I'm
gonna pick that ship, you know what I'm saying. You
know how it goes. You know, I got I got
(19:47):
one right now. The new song you leave us no choice,
that's the name of the song. So be looking for
that that's coming soon.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I always like to shut off to the trolls out there.
You know, it's always one dumb motherfucker. You're talking about
one thing, and it's always one dude to come on
the show talk about some whole others. Bye bye chump.
But anyway back to this, well.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You know, man, you know I fuck with the trolls
because you know, you know a lot of time the trolls,
you know, may not really trolls. They just uneducated to
the to who created the style. You know, they're just uneducated, man.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
That's why I keep me in ink pin.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
You know, I keep an ink pin for the trolls.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Now. My mama always told me a black man always
got to have an ink pin, you know, just in
case you need you need to sign a check. You
know what I'm saying, Oh, cut a Nick, here we go.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I would expect you. I would expect you to be
card a rounds and stuff like that. So the dope
part about that though, man, you being on rap a lot,
none of that deterred them from pushing forward with you,
because usually the those major record labels, when they have
any type of resistance, they get scared to pull the
plug on everything.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, you know, I think they didn't really know, you know,
really how to promote it, man, So I just think
they put that shit. You know, they let it go
on the underground. Man, they let it go on the
underground just to see what, you.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Know, what it would do.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
And you know, I hit Billboard with no promotion, no
radio play, nothing, but you know underground promotion magazines, you
know that type of shit, word them out and and
the ship just flooished.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Think about it.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I hit Billboard with no promotion, so no radio play,
you know, just the strength of my hard rhymes, man,
you know what I'm saying. So it is what it is, man,
It's just the facts. You can't deny that. That's why,
you know, you know, the trolls don't really you know,
(21:59):
they just need to be educated. Man. You know what
I'm saying, so I said, shout out.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You know, yeah, this said, man, we ain't gonna pay
them dudes. No, never mind tonight, it's all about you,
brother and paying the MARDs to you and what you
got going on. Because I remember at that time, man,
it got real serious and rap man, especially because I
remember Ice Tea took a lot of heat for the
cop Killer album, man, and they were just out there.
You know, they was pretty much kicking Brothers off the lake,
(22:24):
but they was letting people go. He was cutting Brothers
checks and saying, you got to take that somewhere else.
We're not having it. So you do this, man, this
time you full fledged. Like you said, I believe that
that appearance that you had to get a boys album,
it definitely took you to another level and elevated you. Right,
So now you're in the fold. Man, how did you
come up to do the song for Bush would be
(22:45):
a Rest in Peace Bushwack?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Well, you know, the album was coming, man, and you know,
J Prinsad came.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
To me and you know, he asked me, you know,
you know that I want to you know, did I
want to write something you know? Or would I write
for Bill? But ship I ain't really know what to
write at the time, you know, so you know, you know,
Gaveston is about an hour away. So what happened was,
you know, Jay had rented a beach house. So you know,
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we all you know, the whole rap a lot, you
know what I'm saying. Possy went up went up to
the to the beach house and you know back then,
we you know, I was smoking Hello weed and ship,
you know what I'm saying. So Mushard was up there
and I just had came up, you know with that
because it hit him. You know what, what could I
(23:35):
write for? You know what I'm saying for a midget?
You know, you know one of the one of the
Chucky movies was out, so it just it just fit perfect, man.
And then I just wrote the ship right up there,
you know. And you know I got a bunch of bread,
you know, for doing it. Shout out to J Prince,
you know what I'm saying, much love, like I said, man,
all everything to J Prince, you know, even though I
(23:57):
had my own.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Label now, you know, but I thank God for the time.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
You know, you know that that I was gonna rap
a lot for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
That was a good look. With for you, man, and
you did. I believe four albums total would rap a lot, right.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I think it was five to da Let's see south
Park Psycho Psychic Thoughts interview with a Killer, the Genius,
the Genius, And I think, man, I think it's.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Probably one more.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I know, I know those four for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
You did, man, You know the thing is for you
to have four or five records with them, Man, that's big.
It was a lot of artists. It's most artists only
get to release one major album, man, And you kind
of got it out the mud. Because if I'm correct,
and correct me if I'm wrong, the south Park cycle
came out independently on Wrap a Lot Records. It was
just Wrap a Lot through their own distribution.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Right to let me see, I think no, I think
by that time, you know, I think they had got
I think they had got distribution at that particular time. Yeah,
because that's how I got. That's how it went worldwide,
That's how I got. That's how I got the billboard,
you know. So So I think yeah, because because.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
You eventually wound up getting to deal with priority, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
We had priority and.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Other people man before priority.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
It'll come to me. But Yeah, we definitely had the priority.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
So I noticed you would be on a lot of
the Ghetto Boy releases, right right, Scarface always and he
was the one that brought in the game. It makes
sense now, right, you have a relationship that you had
with them. So, Man, I want to go back, man
to something that we talked about a little bit earlier. Man,
we talked about censorship. How your record label let you go.
(25:52):
Do you think you would be able to release a
record like south Park Cycle the Day in twenty twenty three?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I think I will, you know, my album about to
come out, you know, the Greatest Horror Volume too, you know,
But ship, I don't. Between you and I, I don't
released you know a few haror Core you know albums
that's on all major platforms.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Man, all you gotta do it.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Just go anywhere iTunes, whatever type in gangs, the nept
g A n x S T A g A n
x x t A. You know, if you don't have
the X in it, then then then that's not that's
not mine. Put up eight albums. I just put up
(26:41):
like eight albums.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Y'all. Hear that out there? Go support this brother's work.
He's still bringing that work. He's still slinging that blade.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Psych Ward Entertainment, man, that's the name of my label,
psych Ward Entertainment. Like I'm saying, you can go on
any platform and just type in G A N N
S T A NIP and you're gonna see the Guard
of Horror Coord, the Creator of Horror Coord. You know
what I'm saying, Guard of Horror coord, Creator of Horror Coord.
(27:11):
You know abbage like that that you you know that's
and then you'll see why I created the shit, you know. So, yeah,
I ain't hit changed. The shit is the same, you
know what I'm talking about. So I mean steal Psycho too, you.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Know what I'm talking about. So I got eight of
them bangers.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
You know what I'm saying. If you want to just see,
go see you know what I'm saying. So that way
you can, you know, you can, you'll know how the
shit really came about, you know what I'm saying. Now.
One thing about me, man, I'm a you know, I'm
a Brother Lynch fan. Shout out to Brother Lynch. I
call him the Guard of his style rip gud. One
thing about me, I don't do heye, I do elevate
(27:56):
and congratulate and celebrate, you know, shout out to the
home each some each something.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
That's the Homer.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
He came to Houston, did a show, and and and
and blessed me to get on the show with him,
you know, paid me to get on the show, and
then did a did a song with me. See that's
real right there. You know what I'm saying. And I
call him, you know, the the god of acid acid rap. See.
So it's everybody have their own little thing. That's why
(28:23):
I'll be tripping when they be trying to say a
record each Sam never said he did Horricort, brother Lynch
never said he did holcortfinite.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
They could be inspired by somebody, you know. It ain't
nothing wrong with taking inspiration from something else and putting
your own twist on it. Because those brothers are definitely original.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah, most definitely. So you know on that you you
you'll have to ask them.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
But you know, I'm just you know, I'm just like
to show love, you know what I'm saying to cats
Man because I'm fans as well, you know, I'm I'm
one of their fans as well. So I would like
to do really, I would like to do a show
like a tour with me, Brother Lynz E sim take nine.
You know what I'm saying, all them, you know, Stephen King, Gordon,
(29:08):
all of these cats.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Man.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
You know I got love man, one thing by me.
I don't do eight.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I just innovate and create, motivate and celebrate. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
That's all you can do, man, That's all we're supposed
to do is black folks. You know what I'm saying,
All this unnecessary drama and the women and all that stuff.
I don't do all that either, bro, because you know,
life too short for all that. Man, Yes, sir, And
there's definitely a lot of people out here that love you, man,
That's what I was telling brothers.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Man.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
See the problem man, I see in hip hop a
lot of times you have veteran artists and people would
get stuck on that one classic album. And you're telling me,
over than that, them brothers are still doing music. This
brother got eight nine more albums that out there for
y'all consumption. Go support them. And I think the biggest
part of it is that's why I wanted to bring
you on here, is when you're searching you you got
(29:57):
the king snip because you had a couple of different
spelling your name right then go you are so lazy nowadays,
if they can't find it, they just assume ain't nothing
there and they go on to the next thing. So
you'll hear the brother say that name one more.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Time so they man, you gotta you gotta type it end.
You know, I got my own label, Psyche Ward Entertainment,
and my name is still g A n x s
t e A n I P. I'm gonna stay it again.
G A n x s t A n I P.
(30:32):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
The X only means the X is unknown.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
It means xing out all of b s. You know,
I have my own I have my own label. I'm
doing my own thing. You know I'm down with the nation.
That's why the X is unknown.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
You know I roll with the guards.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I'm the guard of Hall Record. You know you can
take that and let it alone. It is what it is.
You know, my album then come out. My album did
come out worldwide. You know. First I hate to beat
the boy three different times.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
On three different albums.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
You know I got golden platinum plaque. You know what
I'm saying I.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Got those from my album.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I got those for writing the Chucky for Butschwick. You know,
you know platinum, pat, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Speaking the golden platinum like you saw that, Joe. Butden's
just got his gold plaque for Pump it Up right right?
I would think about no, man, you think South Park
Cycle on? So when gold on?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
So far?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
You think that, when is the last time you ever
checked that?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Well, you know South Pust Cycle. You know South Pust
Cycle is platinum, man, you know right right now South
Pust Cycle on eBay and different little platforms going for
three hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Man, Yeah, for sure, I've seen it.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
You can't even you can't even.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Get South Pust Cycle for a hundred three hundred you
know that that lets you know, you know, But like
I said, you know it's about one point six man,
you know, so it is it is what it is. Like.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
That's a blessing, though, bro, because you got a lot
of people out there. I'm telling you, I wouldn't be
surprised if Doctor Dray was banging your music, dog, because
you have that type of impact people like it was
really on your.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Ship, man, I ain't know, That's why I just told
you that's why I start called me. You know what
I'm saying, that's why my intro is too short, too short.
About two months ago, he was just talking about me
and told him to play psycho. You know, me and
two Short too show used to fly to Houston. I
used to go pick Short up from the airport, take
him to the after hours, do his shows with him
(32:33):
standing behind him. Make sure nobody's fucking with him, Me
and my homies standing behind him. Let him do his show,
then go to the after hours. You know so you
can ask Short. I got it on my intro. You
know what I'm saying, Short, I said it himself. He
said that ship on eggin radio on rock the bells
shout out to LLL.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
You know so you can't. You can't deny the fact.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
That's that's what's wrong with niggas. Niggas want to deny
the face that you cannot deny facts.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
All the time, they you know what, they would rewrite history.
They were twisted up the facts and everything else. Man.
But you know what, that's all right. That's what we
got platforms like this to get the word out and
let people know what's going on. Yes, sir, so do
you have a website or anything.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Well, man, I just I just me honestly. I send niggas.
I just send niggas straight to the to the platforms.
You know what I'm saying, Go go go stream that,
Go buy, go stream it. You know what I'm saying.
That's all I want. That's all I want you to do.
You can just go see for yourself. You know, I'm
about to drop the Greatest Horrors Volume two, you know album,
probably in a month. But I but I have the
(33:42):
greatest album, Greatest Horrors Volume one that's out right now.
I have The Guard of Horror Cord that's out right now.
I have the Creator of Horror coord that's out right now.
I have Steel Psycho two that's out right now. I
have h Town Legend that out right now. These are
all record albums, man, and they under novel. So you
(34:05):
gotta do just go to YouTube, not YouTube, but iTunes.
Go to Spotify, g A E X S P A
N I P. You know what I'm talking about, and
uill see And.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
You heard it right there. You heard it right there
with Nick Man. I appreciate you. Man, coming on, man,
I know you are a few hours ahead of us, man,
and we did this kind of short notice, man, But
I really appreciate it, man, because you are definitely one
of my favorite artists. Donny shot to me, Donny Houston.
I told Donny Houston, me and him talk a lot,
and I said, Man, tall games to Nip Man. I
(34:40):
gotta holler at him.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I need to holler at him already, man, And that's
a that's a blessing.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Shout out to I call him DH Man. I call
I call you know when I go up to dh I.
You know, I call it dh Vill when I do
my interviews with him. I'm staying in dh Vill.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Shout out to Donny Houston. Man, we love down in Houston,
big Steeal We'll be back, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
And oh for sure, you definitely be back. Man. We
definite we go have you on against the Chronicles, dog.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I want to get on that.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah, against the Chronicles Dog. We got a lot of
we got a real big reach over there, especially on
the audio, man, So I want to get you on there.
I want to do this with you all little, one
on one so I can get my little personal fan
boy ship off the way for sure, and then I
want you to know me and eight is actually gonna
come down to Houston. I think we'd be down there
in the January, So I definitely want to do it
(35:28):
the right way. When we do that, that one that's
that's gotta be the live sit down, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Sir, shout out the n C A man, I've been
a fan of eight Man for some other fucking loan. Man,
the hood will take you under man, come on.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Man, he is a man of yours as he.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Is a big fan of eight Man.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
You know, EF eight is a is a complete legend man.
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
So like I said, man, I'm on it. You know
what I'm talking about. And Cat's just gotta gone and
just you just gotta give it up, man, you know
what I'm saying. Whether you you know like this rap
that rapper man just real niggas we did in facts,
go look that ship up.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Miam came out late ninety one. Southwest Cycle was the only.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Hor record full length album out in America and overseas worldwide.
Board I hit the beerboard with no promotion, no radio play,
just the strength of hard ass rhymes. You know what
I'm saying. It ain't nothing changed. You know what I'm
talking about, Still the same, like I stayed, Go look
(36:34):
on Spotify iTunes. You know what I'm saying. Wherever you
want to go g a n x Sta n IRP,
creator of horror coord No.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I'm gonna make sure I got that in the description,
brother Babble linked to all your albums in the description.
So if you don't give me about five minutes, I'm
gonna make sure all less populated down there.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Man.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I really appreciate you, brother, I really appreciate you. Coming on, man,
I appreciate you. Y'all. Make sure it's your Instagram, man, Well.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
My Instagram is just look up Rowdy Rowdy Williams. That's
my real name r R O W d Y Gangster
Nip Williams.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
When I found out that was your government name, bro,
I said, man, that's something else. The type of music
this man's name and his government name is rowdy because
you are rowdy, you.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Know my mama, and my mama gakes me the right name. Man.
You know, so there's Rowdy Gangstennip Williams, you know, and
it's Rowdy Williams on Facebook, you know. So at Psycho
Nip on Twitter, you know. And then my YouTube is
the Real gangst Nip. That's where all the videos at,
the Real Gangster Nip. You know what I'm saying. I
(37:43):
just I was just on Donna Houston. He did the
Top ten, I did my I did my new song
called fingers Sharpener. Who you know gonna make a song
called fingers sharpen though, you know that you know what
I'm saying, that fingers sharpening. See, I used to be
a carpin to, so let me turn their fingers softener.
(38:04):
So let me turn it again. I remember this in school,
so let me learn it again. You know, trust me, man, man,
listen that fingers softener. So motherfucker heart, you know, talking
about a nigga, say, used to be a used to
be a teacher's hand turned into a creature's hand, kind
(38:25):
of looking like it's Freddy's hand. Fred and Barnie rubber
Wilmer told me that it's Betty's hand. You're gonna talking
about the shit wicked, man, you know, just gotta know, man. Plus,
it got them two short, funked out ass beats. That's
what makes that's what makes the connection, the beats with
the rhymes. You know you gotta have both of them.
(38:46):
You know, if you don't have both of them plus
the visual the visualization of what you're talking about, see horror.
Let me explain this to these cats, man, you catch
horror core is more than just a physical style. It's
a mental stuff and it also has a spiritual aspect.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
It's where you take it.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
The problem with you niggas, y'all keep that shit just
on the lower base value, which.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Is the physical style.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Nigga, I'm the god.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I got the physical, the mental, and the spiritual style
of horror court. You know what.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
You just touched on something. And this is what I
want to say, because black folks, you know how we
are religion. I had some folks when I would play
your CD, why you listen to that devil worship and stuff?
And I would say it, not one time did this
man every say on their CD worship the devil? Never
that one time he talks one big ship, but he never,
(39:41):
not one time, said nothing about most Satanism on that.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
That's another thing I'm glad you mentioned that.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Do this can't be thinking.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Horror coor is devil worshiping. It's not see the ship
was in me just from from birds. You know, I
never never said I watched the devil. I'm in the nat.
Put this motherfucker cring. You know what I'm saying. You
see that star in Christen, you know what I'm saying.
So that horrorcore shit is in me. You know I'm
(40:09):
talking about. So that's just the physical plane, that's just
my detention mechanism. You heard. You know, So all niggas
out there start worshiping Satan, you know what I'm saying,
because I didn't create horrcorre for you to worship Satan.
I never said that shit. And my song always killed
the devil, not worshiping. What the fuck you're doing worship?
(40:29):
You know what I'm saying, The motherfucker devil the fuck.
Your horrorcor is a visual style with immense, high powered imagery.
Horrorcord is a is a style where you don't need
a scream. Your lyrics is the picture. You don't need
a movie scream. If you're doing horrorcor right and your
(40:51):
shit is vivid enough, you'll never need a scream because
your lyrics is the movie. You know what I'm talking about.
You life, life is a movie.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
We just all playing part.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
You're for real, for real, for real, for real.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Before we get up out of here, man, I want
to give another shout out to Donnie Houston. Y'all make
sure y'all go check your show out. Donnie is really
the he really puts on for the city of Houston,
and I love that brother for that anytime. And I'm
a big fan of his channel, you know, as he
is what we do. Donnie Houston, y'all make sure y'all
go check him out, man, because anything that's going on
(41:28):
in Age down he pretty much don't have everything. Everybody
from Houston on that show, right, He's had everyone from
Houston on that show, and I love that about that brother.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Shout out down Houston every name. Man. Shout out to
the HPC, you know what I'm saying. Shout out to
bumb man. Shout out to the trill Burgers. Man, y'all
need to check out that bumbe trill Burger man.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Down there doing his thing.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Man.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
I'm so proud of him. Man, that's awesome. Man.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Bond, listen, let me tell you something about Bond before
I go. Every time Bond do an interview and they
into horror Court, he always telling them, Man Nip been
doing that shit way before. You know what I'm saying,
Cat's came out, Cats came out. I've been doing Horror
Court eighty three. You know what I'm saying. Then, I'm
fifty four years old. Look still you know that nation
(42:17):
got a brother, Still looking good, still vibing, still hardcore,
still higher level. You know what I'm saying, consciousness, how
you level thinking, and definitely how you level. You know
what I'm saying, Horror coord So it's so much more,
you know what I'm saying coming up, So just keep
you know, just just stay tuned, you know what I'm saying.
Like I said, go to the platforms, g A, n
(42:39):
X S, t A.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Make I'm gonna make sure they get there, Bro, I'm
gonna make sure they got it right too. So there
we go, Man, Gangs Nip Man, y'all make sure y'all
go stream this man's music, go follow him on Instagram
because he's truly one of our legends. Let's start giving
our legends to flowers while they're still here.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah. Sure, Before I go, I just want to shout
out to the home and e eave Sam. Shout out
to the homie brother Lynx. Shout out to Take nine.
You know what I'm saying. Shout out to Eminem you know,
anybody that's doing hard. Shout out to the Juggalos. Shout
out to my homeboy Mastermind and Detroit. Shout out to
Russ Cole. Shout out to the Hell's Rage in Cincinnati.
(43:23):
You know what I'm saying. Shout out to the homie
really really, you know what I'm saying, the homie, Jordan
King and the SPC for sure.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
So y'all hear it out there now. I messed with y'all,
tick all y'all out there, man, tick and with my
homeboys insane clown policy.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Man.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
We need yeah, I done los, you know, we need
at the next gatherer. Have they have you done together
in the Juggalos yet?
Speaker 1 (43:48):
H Man? They they did contact me one year. I
think I was I think I was doing some shows
so I couldn't do that particular one, so they did
reach out to me.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
You know, man, I'm gonna try to set that up
for You need to go do that and number all
there taking them too. Dog. You need to be out.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
You know people want to see you dog already.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
But we gonna talk offline about that business man. We
appreciate y'all. Man, this is something we gonna start doing
every Sunday. Make sure y'all check this week's episode The
Gainst the Chronicles off and all that. And from that
note we out here salute well. That concludes another episode
of The Gainst the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download
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