May 8, 2025 • 60 mins
In this episode Eiht and Steele discuss the case of Rodney Hinton Jr. Who ran over an Ohio Sheriff over with his car because of his son being gunned down during him allegedly fleeing from the police. We also discuss the case of a white woman being rewarded for hurling racial slurs toward an autistic black youth, has Kanye West lost his mind? and much more
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We's Abnue wes abne wes Aden. It's another episode of
Against the Chronicles podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's your boy Big Steal.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, Hey, you know what some funny shit is though.
It's this woman I guess that was tripping on this
little kid in the park, right, a white woman, white woman, right,
and she went off from a kid or whatever, and
some dude, some other brother recorded her right acting the food.
(00:31):
I guess you know, she was dropping the N word
multiple times, you know, call him a little nia and
he recorded her. You know that woman that raised six
hundred thousand dollars already.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well, from what I heard it was, it's on some
you know, white supremacist groups and people who support you know, her,
whatever she or whatever she believes in whatever. So it's
a lot of those people who raise money for her.
(01:07):
That's how she's she's made. She's they they've raised over
seven hundred thousand dollars for her. Few few extremist groups,
white supremacists, people like that, you know, So you know.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
This is crazy, man. I guess this happened in Minnesota, right.
I wonder why is the stuff like this don't ever
happen in our neck of the woods.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, First of all, you got to try to figure
out and understand what is the raising of the money for.
What is she potentially what gonna lose her job, gonna
have to relocate, you know, you know what actually is
the money being raised for.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well, I guess because she now has to move because
they that has been so big, then she has to
move right now. And it's like even they even found
out what she works out at. I guess this is
in Rochester, Minnesota. And the kid that she was the kids,
the kid is at.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Autistic.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, so she went off on an autistic kid. And
and this is crazy. I'm not gonna going to playing
a video and everything else like this. I noticed that
people are getting more and more uncomfortable then with really
we're really using racial ship you.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Know, well, you know, it ain't that people been getting
covering people being comfortable with the ship for a long time.
Now you get me. It's just that you know, it's
frowned upon more, you know, because it's now you know,
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social media. Uh there we are. It's all good, keep talking,
you know, social media and ship you know has elevated,
uh you know, certain ship. But it's it ain't like
it's uh like we a stranger to motherfucker's calling us
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the N word. I mean, we call each other niggas
as as a gesture of friendship or home ye ship
or whatever. What's uping my nigga? What's up? Won't? We won't.
But you know now that we got the Internet and
ship is being broadcast, that the light has frowned upon
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because it is you know, uh, in terms when it's
used upon different races, it's it's it's racial, you feel me?
Uh So you.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Know, I just I'm just picturing the grown ass woman
though calling a little artistic kid out of his name,
and if I would have been out her through some
hot coffee on that.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Picture, well you gotta understand within you see, now that
comes into play of what uh your retaliation would cost you.
You know, now that's physical retaliation. Now you facing jail
time and lawsuits because you know somebody done called you
out your name or call the kid out the name
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something that we're not strangers to. You feel me. Ain't
nobody stranger that shit but for And then it depends
on what neck of the woods you're living in, because
there are those type of places that you know, you
can find yourself in those type of communities that are
you know, predominantly Caucasian based, and you know, if you
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happen to, you know, find yourself upon those type of communities,
you're gonna have to deal properly with some of the
repercussions of what they think of of us. You feel
they been thinking that's a long time still you're giving.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, you well, I don't know if I through the
hot coffee on her, man, but definitely check that bit.
Her name is l Little Hendrix, I guess, and she's
saying that she needs to relocate her family due to
the response to the video. And I noticed many they
haven't been you know, we've always had racist motherfuckers in
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this country, right as long as me and you've been
walking deserving before us, right. But I do believe that
white folks are more comfortable than ever was showing.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
They ass Oh well, you know, like I said, a
lot of people feel that certain laws protect them in
the right of believing in what they believe in. I mean,
you know, we have shit set up to where you know,
we have racial crimes and shit like that. But I
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guess people be feeling like in her aspect as the
freedom of speech allows her to call the motherfucker you know,
a nigga. You know, she feels in her basis and
how she was raised, in the community she supports and
the people that supports her and what she believe in.
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She has that right to say that word if she
wants to, like, you know, shit is you know, she
feeling like what what it's if I can call the
motherfucker that if I want to shit?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, what Evidently she did, and she's about to be
rewarded for it. She's about for sure to be rewarded
for it. This raise you said, seven hundred thousand dollars, Now.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I mean, like I said, unfortunately, like you know, it's
still people who believe in that in that shit, you
get me, it's people who still you know, great grandparents
and grandparents who you know and embedded in them in
the history of what they believe in, and it's just
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passed on and they're still communities and people who have
the right to have these groups. You see you know,
niggas dressing up in their uniforms going out to protest
that certain shit. So there's definitely still communities and people
across the globe who are in support of that shit
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and so they feel they probably feeling like she's a
hero to them. You get me. They hate us, that
bad man, hate the strom as a motherfucker dog. Is it?
Like you said? But is that support welcome in the
black community as on the same aspect. You know, if
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you were living in a in a white community and
called a motherfucker out of eight, you know, you called
a motherfucker that motherfucker word, or you know, something that
they don't like or they despise what the black community
be in support of raising money to help you relocate
(08:09):
your family in the situation that you might be caused
harm or you know, it might be some bullshit going down.
Do you think it would work vice versa. See, that's
the thing. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You know what, I think we would get like the
fuck up. I think we would have issues.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Do you think do you think the homies and the
black community would get together and raise over seven hundred
thousand dollars to donate to you if you was in
the in the same situation.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
You know what, I don't know, man, Because the little
boy's family has raised six hundred thousand so far. The
little boy there was the victim of this white woman,
this family has raised six hundred thousand. The family told him,
you know, people stop giving them. They shut it.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Down, you know. And what were they raising money for?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well, I guess somebody started raising decided to raise money
on their behalf. Let me see, I tell you right now,
they had decided to raise money on behalf of this
kid write some organization. Let me see, let me tell
you right now. Mhm uh. Because the guy that that
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busted out, right, the guy that busted her out, they found.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Out that he had.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
A criminal pass or whatever. But this is stuff he's
been exonerated on, right, uh huh, So he's had a
little bit of backlash. And I guess they were raising
money for, you know, the wellness of the little boy
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
This is how I feel about all this stuff. Man.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I don't even know if we honestly will ever get
through this racism ship. Man. I think people feel the
fuck the way they feel, and that's what it is.
I won't go as far as to say that we
no longer have a America as black people, African Americans,
whatever you want to call it, but we will say
that we got to start kind of just kind of
hanging with our own. I'm all about like creating our
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own shit. Man, I'm thinking like and I'm nowhere and
everybody any meanings racist? Man, I got white family members, right,
But I do think that America has suh the time
again that there's more motherfuckers that think are fucked.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Up way than not. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I think a lot of people staying hiding, and when
they get a chance to be anonymous with their racism,
they exercise that. If it me and them sending some
money to some bits that don't cut up, they do that.
If it means them voting for a motherfucker, that's go
put certain laws in place that could possibly impede me
and you or hurt people like me and you. I
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think they with it, especially if they can do it
behind closed doors. And so I really think you know
that conquer that man. I think that we need to
start supporting our own We need to start supporting black
businesses and we just stopped needing. We need to stop
supporting motherfuckers that don't fuck with us. I don't know
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why people can't understand that.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Man.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
If they don't fuck with us over at Target, stop
shopping at Target. They don't support us over it if
they acting a certain way to us at this place,
stop supporting.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Them, is it? Yeah, I mean I guess, but that
that's that's that's uh, that's a strong commitment for you know,
people to make when you know some people are addicted
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to the walmarts and the targets and these these these
uh these places, you feel me. So sometimes it might
be hard, you know. You you might tell people let's
boycott and let's do this and that. But most of
the time, motherfuckers is you know, That's why I be saying.
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You know, you could talk a good one to people,
but it's hard to get people to join in and
follow along, you know what I'm saying, when when they're
comfortable with those vices, you feel me.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Now, you being have you ever experienced racism?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
If I ever experienced I mean I've experienced racism to
the point of racial profiling, you know, being a young
black kid or young Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, we don't all feel that. I'm talking about somebody
just coming out of Niger.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Oh No, I've never had to deal with that, you know,
Thank God that you know, I've been able to stay
amongst my peers so to speak. I've never put never
been in a situation to where I've encountered those type
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of people, you know, because you we come, I come
from a different walk of life. You get me, and
I might not be necessarily the person that somebody might
want to express their racial you know, their racial feelings
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towards you give me. With with us, we're going on
tours and going to different towns and sections and you know,
always having security and homies with you. I've never uh
come across someone who has been that blatant to just
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call us niggas or or you know, step out of
line on some racial shit, because you know, in my
earlier days that might have turned into physical violence for
someone you give me. I think I've seen.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I've had situations, man, when I was younger, right, especially
living in Ohio, to where I've had guys rode by
calling us, you know, screaming in the word out the
window or whatever like that. I actually had an incident
one time. We was in the Taco bell me and homies, right,
and we was with one of the helmies and the
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white homie knew karate like this dude really was a
fool with it, right. That was the homie right right,
And these white folks in there. I think they was
at some King State University students. They was in there,
you know, Sander procatory shit, but in a different language, laughing,
and he knew that, and he said, why don't you
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pussy said like say it in English. So we got
into a melee in there. When I tell you that
homies was kicking people upside the head, I'm talking.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
About brals dudes.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
You know, we gave them white folks the business in there.
We almost went to jail for that though, even though
they started it, even though they kind of threw the
first punch, we ented it, but we almost went to jail.
They didn't give a fuck about us talking about what
they said or this and that. They didn't give a damn.
So hell yeah, I've experienced that type of stuff, and
I think would make it more crazy about states like California.
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I think it's a whole bunch of white folks to
feel that way out here. But they know if they
go to Lakewood, Comped, the Long Beach anywhere talking that shit,
they might get slid. That white woman would have said
some shit like that in Gonzales Park or somewhere like that,
she'd have got her ask for me.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, but you know they're gonna and that's one thing
about you know, their kind, they gonna stay in their community.
What it is is you have to be careful about
venturing into their neck of the woods, because they damn
sure ain't gonna come to our neck of the woods.
They ain don't come to Counting, They ain't donna come
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to Watts or South Central, or or the spots in
Chicago or New York or wherever it's vicious. They're gonna
stay amongst themselves now, you know, because being out of
bounce is being caught slipping, and you know, they want
to be comfortable in their own skin. So that's why
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they stay in their surroundings. It's just that when we,
you know, as African Americans, as black people, feel that
we have the right to stay anywhere the fuck we
want to, that we can afford or we can whatever whatever.
You know, Uh, it's it's us venturing into their negative woods.
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It's where you are forced to deal with the rec
repercussions of racism still because unfortunately, just like I had
to tell my son, you know, it still exists. You
get me, you know it's out there. You know, you
can't be naive to the fact that even though you're
black and proud and you know you can whoop a
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motherfucker's ass or that type of aspect you feeling, they
feel just as strongly about. Hey. You know, if it's
a nigga in my neck of the woods, and if
I'm feeling a certain way, you know, I'm an I'm
gonna yell it out. You know, no telling what led
up to the situation of her blurting out that shit
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you feel me to someone's kid. Yeah, well, evidently she
said the little boy wanting her kid's bag or whatever. Again,
this kid you talking about an autistic I have a
nephew that's on the spectrum, right, and sometimes they'd like
to do little things Like my nephew, if he.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Makes you ate, he would come up and just touch
your hands. You feel what I'm saying. That's how he
kind of you know, that's what he does. You know,
like he had come up and touch my hands and
grab my fingers whatever, I hold his hand or whatever.
I just think, man, for people to treat a child
that way, Man, it shouldn't be a place in society
for nothing like that, because you know, white, black, green,
or whatever, a child is a child.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, again we are we are acceptable to certain shit
because we feel as adults we've come out of a
lot of shit being black men. But like I said,
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some people just feel comfortable about the blatant, you know,
racism that there is. Uh, some people just feel strongly
about that shit. Like I said, you can get on
the internet any day and see racism matters fullest. You know,
there's groups, there's websites, there's blogs. You know, it's just unfortunately,
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you know, it's something that we have we've had to
come through. Uh. We feel strongly as a people about
who we are as black people. You know, we could
stand up for ourselves now with whoop a motherfucker asks,
and I dare you to say some shit. But like again,
these are people who feel strongly in their beliefs of
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they don't like us. You get me. And so for uh,
you know, for you know, like you're saying, for it
to be the situation of the little kid going in
somebody's bag or whatever, which is which is? You know,
you have to understand the the mentality of the child
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on the spectrum, so who knows, she not knowing. But
still it's not a case of her, you know, blatantly
just calling him out his name, Uh, not knowing what
the what the situation is. You know again, this is
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you know the thing he was possible. She feel comfortable,
And I'm gonna say this ship, I don't give.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
A fuck, yeah, because you know what broke. I've had
situations to where I might be in the store. I
remember I had a situation to where a little white
boy and threw like a little car, one of them
little toy cars. He threw it at me. Right, it
didn't hurt nothing, kind of hit me. What was I
gonna do? All off and slept the shut out. The
little boy, a little kid. I just kept pushing, you
know what I mean something you know. Mom said oh,
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I'm sorry and went on about her business. I wasn't tripping.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, because who knows you know what I'm saying. Uh yeah,
you like some people, you know. I don't know. I
don't know, Like I said.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Uh, I just think we losing our mind in this country.
And I know you heard about this one man, the
brother Rodney hitting junior man who ran over the who
ran over the police officer behind his son getting shot.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
No, what's what's what's that? You haven't heard about that, height,
I ain't heard about that.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Okay. This brother Rodney Hitting Jr. And his son was
shot dead by police right the night before and he
just got denied bond and killing the sheriff's deputy, you know,
after the disturbance in court. His son was evidently in
some kind of incident in the stolen car whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I don't quite know.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
The full details of it, right, but what it was,
the police say his son had a gun.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
He had a gun which they can't see on the
body camp for it, so they shot him right. Oh,
boy was so mad he went after the next day
and ran over a deputy. Now, wouldn't say that. I've
heard a few people say that it was the same
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guy that shot his son. I've heard that it wasn't
the same I heard. He just went and got a motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Right. If you would have saw this brother walking cork
man with all.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
These it was a whole bunch of sheriffs like standing
in the road beside him, and he walked between them,
motherfuckers just gooling that.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
They ass like, yeah, I do something.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
This man is traumatized behind his son getting killed. He
wasn't having it but he went to whack the motherfucker.
Now here's my thing. Where do I understand that father's anger?
Do I understand this? Ain't you damn right? If somebody
did something to any one of my kids, ain't no
telling what I would do, Ain't no telling what she
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would do? You this man probably have lost his mind
in stas who had a mental breakfast, sure, right, but
not seeing it making no difference, right, But I think
it would have been viewed differently had it actually been
the mother that the shot his son.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
He's going to ring the motherfucker over. Yeah, that's that's
tough right there. Yeah it it's real tough. Fuck that
they recovered the gun that they said if the kid
had no and.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
They don't have bodycam footage here there is shoot not
hip to it. I'm gonna read. I'm gonna read. I'm
give a low down on it. Rodney Hing Jr. Who
authorities say intentionally hit him killed in Ohio sheriff's deputy
with a car after his son was fatally shot by police,
but remained in jail without bond while he a waste
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trial and the murder charge. King Jr. Was the nied
bond of the Twoesday Court here in Cincinnati. He has
charged with aggravated murder for the main second killing of
Hamilton County ship as Jeffrey Larry Henderson.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
There would be an order of a man with no bond.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
He is a shorter safety of the defendant and any mental
health treatment that he can be granted. Hamilton County Judge
Tyrone Yates said, the hearing is the things the building
in the case that began last week Instincinnati police shot
and killed Hending Junior's son, but le He said eighteen
year old Ryan Hendon was one of four men who
were fleeing after officers found him in the.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Stolen car, and that he was armed when he ran.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
N Junior's attorney Clyde Ben the second end of the
plea of not guilty on his client's behalf and request fail.
During Tuesday's hearing, Bennett asked for him Junior not to
be thought of as a cop killer, but a person
with mental illness. I don't think he was a cop killer.
I think he's not in his right mind, Ben said,
and I think he should be treated like any other
mentally ill person that commits a crime. Monther the auspicies
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controlled and authority of a mental defense in that condition.
After the hearing begins, the turbans erupted in the the
gallery and HNT Jr. Was rushed out of the courtroom
by law enforcement. The man yell, I used to want
my brother to see me. Hearing resumed after the man
was esported out and hing Junr. Was brought back into
the courtroom. Ben It told Jason to his acknowledgement, the
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man was not hitting Junior's brother. So if you would
have sort of look on these police officers face eight,
you know how they are.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Everybody was one of their own, right.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I'm surprised one of them guys didn't pull a gun
out their hopster man to shoot that dude. The way
they was looking at me.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
They didn't have a chance, because you definitely would have.
They would have roughed him up, you know what I'm saying,
once they got a hold of him. I mean, that's
kind of yeah, it's deep in it. Yeah, that that's
a hard one right there, because as a father with
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a son, even know, there's there's no extent or length
that you wouldn't go through to protect your son. And
you know only you know the morale of your son
it's unfortunate that you know, like I said, we don't
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know what kind of lifestyle he was living. I mean,
because for them to turn around and say he was
with other dudes in a robbery and all that shit.
But the thing is you you you don't have evidence
of a weapon and you don't have bodycam footage. So
that's what makes it suspicious on a father's behalf. You
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give me no answers to why you shot my son?
You saying like you know and your your your evaluation
of your son is like, my son ain't robbing no
motherfucking body, you know what I'm saying. And he definitely
had no pistol unless you know your son is in
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that lifestyle. So that's gonna that's gonna fuck up ship
right there. And then when you looking for answers there
or none, you get me why you shoot my son?
You say he had a gun, but there's no gun found,
and then you had no Now we got no body
can footage, So I don't know what the fuck y'all did.
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Y'all could have just jumped out and just start shooting
my son on the active being, on the aspect of
being you know, paranoid cops.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, it's a whole bunch of look at and especially
you know with this brother, I do think it's a
mental illness thing.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Man. You know, it's so much wrong on both sides
of this.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Right, you got the police once if you an't gun
down a brother, they said they had a gun, that
didn't have a gun. Right, and you got to sheriff
that has lost his life. You feel what I mean
that you know he's not coming home in his family now.
I just think that whenever you had a loss of life,
on both sides, it's just a bad thing. I do
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think this is a mental illness thing on our and
I hope that they don't look at this as a
personal thing because I think this man had a mental break.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
He lost his son, or definitely out of a mental break.
If uh, it's thought process was I'm gonna go out here,
and who knows what it is. I don't want to
say that they was planned. He could have been. He
could have been fucking rolling around one day and just
seeing the police, you know, and and and just snapped.
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You get me, uh by asking, because that's that's traumatic.
You know, that's on any parent losing their kid in
the situation of being shot and killed, you know, you know,
uh and and to be a you get me, that's devastating.
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I be devastated if something happened to my son, somebody
shot and killed my son at eighteen years old. I
don't know what to deal with it. I don't know.
I don't know, you know, I just hoping print that.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
You know, I'm gonna rebut that man that me and
you ever have to go through some shit like that,
because I don't know how it processed.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Right, and so it's hard to say what his thought
process was. And for the fact that you know, most
of the times you deal with these situation, these these
parents who deal with that aspect of their child going
through that gang life and being murdered and a drive
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by and not getting answers or whatever. You know, this
man had the police killed him. You get me, ya,
you already gotten it. You know, there's already that that
love hate, you know, relationship that we as black people
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have with the police. You get me a feeling being
felt racial profile as a as a as a black man,
and and now knowing what you might have had to
go through as a young motherfucker with the police. You
just knowing in this day and age, you got an
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eighteen year old son, you could just imagine that situation
right there.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
So man, and I imagine you know, that's what I think,
God Man, that cats like me and you had certain
attributes can tell and and opportunities to allow us to
take our kids out of those type of situations.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, because it's you can't prevent it. You get me.
Growing up in the neighborhoods, you know, you gravitate to
niggas in the neighborhood. You know, those be the niggas.
You play football with the niggas, You ride bikes with
the niggas. You you know, uh uh, go to school
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with from from from elementary on up to high school
and and and so it's hard to escape that when
you're living in the neighborhood. It's always it's almost like
a rite of passage. You get me and and most
of the time it don't even have to be family
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uh family affiliated. You get me or my brother was
in the gang and then my cousin and WoT you want.
Sometimes just growing up in the hood and and befriended
niggas from your childhood. You know, sh nigga. We was
in the second grade together, fifth grade together, having grades together,
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tenth grade together, and then we live in around the
corners from each other, in the same community, same neighborhood.
If like I said, sometimes it's just the rite of passage.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah, and you figure like this, right, our sons was
raising suburbs, right, you know, places to where they can
go to the movies at night, and just certain stuff
wouldn't happen because your son could have been just on
the xority ride with some cash and stolen car.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Nothing about, man, he could have just been caught up.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And how many times have you found yourself caught up
in situations? Dog to wear was some dumb shit that
she wasn't even aware of. Motherfucker homie ride by pick
you up in a car that stolen. You don't want
nothing about it.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
You just cruising.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Next thing you know, he jumping out the car and
everybody's running and you running. There are so many ways, man,
we could have been caught up in the same situations
coming up.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Man, Man, I used to always, even though you know,
you try to raise your kids in different communities than
what we was raised in, I still didn't put past nothing.
You feel me, I used to always tell them watch
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out who you hang around. Don't don't be a follower,
be a leader. You know shit, you know, because their
still motherfuckers may be feeling like because of where you live,
shit might be easier to get away with or get into.
You feel me, So I used to always tell them,
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you know, That's why I used to always try to
keep them occupying you get me. That was one way
I felt like, not in a sense of controlling, but
I was able to, you know, vouch for and see
a lot of shit you're getting. Saw kids you was
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going to school with. I saw the kids that you
was hanging around. Because I'm there mostly all the time.
You're getting I'm gonna pick you up from school, you know,
when you're in elementary school, when you get to motherfucking
intermediate school, you know, I'm your football coach. So once
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you get out of school, you around me from the time.
You know, you go to practice all day, and then
by time practice over, we get home nine o'clock, it's
time to go to bed. Your friends you developed through
school and through fucking playing sports, so I was able
to be a part of that, you know, growing up
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in the hood. Shit, my influences was the niggas on
the corner. It wasn't the niggas out you know, playing
sports with and shit, even though I tried that aspect.
But growing up in the hood were just moms and
my sister and the influences what I saw on the block.
You know, it wasn't it wasn't. It wasn't hard for
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me to get into the gang lifestyle because I was
influenced by that. So you have to be careful about,
you know, your surroundings and where you live and all that.
And people don't think that, but being a product of
your environment is big. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
It's everything, man, And that's why I thought it was
still important.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I made it actually, when I became a father, I
made it my mission to move my kids about the
neighborhood to where they would never have to be subject
to certain things because it's just a nettle occurrence.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Man, that's net occurrence, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
And you know they're sticking to man that they didn't
you know that this kid had a gun. Again, there's
no gun on the body cam fact, you know footage
they say it's real grainy and blurrid, that you can't
see nothing, right, And I'm not one of those people
that hate the policeman, but it seemed like we do
drop disproportionately.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
As as as as I said, growing up in the
community like Compton and and the stories you you hear
as a child, or what you see or what you're
able to you know, uh, what you're able to witness
for yourself. Now with the help of documentaries and you know,
(36:33):
YouTube and internets and whatever, we as black people have
a sour taste in our mouth behind police h That's
why I you.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Know, listen to this though, bro on cross examination by Bennett,
BB said he would assume hitting Junior source of the
agitation is Bennett put it was watching the body camera video.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Nelson argued him Jors in his current.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
State is a giant mental health question mark, has clear
and present danger and possessed impose the substantial risk of
physical harm the law enforcement officers into the public is
evidenced by his conduct. While been pointing out that him
Juniors lacks any previous felt in conventions, live in the area,
and has family ties, the judge caught him to be
held without bond. Find it very difficult to figure out
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how there could be any decision based on what they
said that would protect the public and the defendant under
these circumstances. Jade said his next courtdate is May twelve.
I kind of agree with the judge. I think in
this mental statement, who's to say he won't get out
and go run over twenty more people?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Right?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
This man is his tak's You don't know what state
he's in. But I wouldn't keep him in jail. I
would put him somewhere for mental evaluation. That's what he
should be. You tell you, you know, when a person
is sick, you take him to the hospital, right right,
This man is probably experienced in grief.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
He is never filter in his life.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Before dog they said, the man don't have no This
is not a man who's just been fucking up his
whole life. This is a man who lost his son
and he's probably experience of grief. To the to the
tienth power.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, but they're not gonna But because of the fact
that he's killed a police officer, they're not going to
go We're not going to give you no mental route,
you get me. We're not you know, they're not gonna
(38:38):
He could have did anything but killed a police officer,
you get me. He could have ran over a you know,
or went out and you know killed the person that
you I mean, I don't know, but killing the police
officers on a different level of of of of what
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they see. And we're not going to let you ride
a mental case when you then kill the police officer,
it's not going to work. So unfortunately, I'm pretty sure
his mental state was broken for the fact that first
(39:21):
of all, my son is dead. Second of all, he
was killed by a police officer. Third, we as black
people already have a bad outlook on the police as
far as killing black people. So there you have another
case of the police, you know, doing bodily harm to
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another young black man. You know, we've seen the cases
over and over again. Then it shit, you can keep
naming the issues. You got no body cam footage? Where's
the gun that you said? So, so, where's the pistol?
If you're saying he drew down on you and he
(40:07):
had a gun, where's the body Oh so all of
a sudden, nobody came for the just grainy as blurry,
but there should be a weapon still, right.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah, exactly. And I would be remiss to say that
this dad probably wouldn't have acted that way had he
so is soon pull out a gun. But I'm imagining
this man looking at body cam for he's wondering, why
did they.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Shoot my gun? He posed no danger to them. Why
did they kill my son? I mean, yeah, that's that's
that's you know, that's most of the time. Anytime the
police is involved in a in a in a shooting
where there's a victim of of of minority issues, you
(40:52):
get me Blacks, Mexicans. It's always the question of why
you get me? Isn't that so common with us that
it's almost too common when it involves the police and
the victim of color, it's always the aspect of why,
(41:16):
and people speak up on well, he wasn't no crazed
ass maniac or his mental state. You know a lot
of times he was mentor or you know, the police
didn't understand he had a problem or whatever. Uh No,
I mean it's always question, like I said, when it
(41:37):
comes to so so like for him and his mental status.
You never know, but they're not going to give him
the pleasure of going to a mental institution and you know,
working over the aggravations of him dealing with these These
(42:00):
are the people who killed my son and I'm deal
with and answer questions every day to why, and nobody
can get me answers, you get me. So yeah, like
I said, I'm not gonna say that he premeditated to
go out and fuck that they killed my son. I'm
(42:23):
finna kill one of them, you get me. He could
have been driving down the street one day, had a
break down, saw police and just snapped. So yeah, yeah,
and that's my thing. Hey, it's a sad situation.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Man. I feel sorry man for that brother. I feel
sorry for his family. I feel feel sorry for the
officer that got ran over dog. You know, it's a
lot of people that's gonna be damaged by this.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
It ain't none of it good, you know, Yeah, because
you know, I'm pretty sure the dude had a face
family the officer, and you know, if if he wasn't
involved in this tragedy, uh, that just make him an
innocent victim. You get me.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
And that's what I'm saying. You know, I try to
tell Glasses and I tell people be careful on putting
false narratives out there. Glasses told me, no, that was
the man that they shot his son. Dude, First of all,
that wasn't the man that shot his son. The man
that shot his son would have been placed on the
administrative lead. He wouldn't have been off the directing no
traffic the next day. I don't think me now, you
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feel what I'm saying. He wouldn't have been out there
just directing traffic the next day.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
You know this, this was an incident of of like
what they call crimes and passion, Like I didn't plan
to kill a motherfucker. I didn't plan on a motherfucker
getting hurt. It's just that I was so overwround with
(44:00):
grief and then I'm I'm I'm probably sitting at a light,
you know what I'm saying, grieving so bad and and
and can't deal with the motherfucking pressure of it. And
then there before me is a motherfucker out directing traffic.
And it's exactly that's no different of of you being
(44:25):
in the courtroom and they got the motherfucker who then
killed your son on the motherfucking you know, sitting in
the shit and you're gonna snap, You're gonna try and
get to that motherfucker. We've seen it numerous times on
crime shows. Motherfuckers killer relative or a son or a daughter,
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and the daddy or the brother or somebody coming there,
and the first thing they do is take a leap
of faith to try to get their hands on the motherfucker.
So so who knows how how how dad was feeling
about the loss of his son.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
And you know, yeah, you were smart, dude, bro, just
by seeing that that whole thing was a particular homicide.
Lets you know right there that he wasn't probably planning
on killing nobody. He was driving so that officer and
just want to hit his ass.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah, it's it's like you're saying, it's a spare of
the moment crime of passion. I'm in the heat of
passion type shit, Like I didn't wake up this morning
going I'm finna just going you get me, Like.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
When you do stuff like that, you always a state
you can get guns real easy. You got access to
guns real easy.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Right, But but still look at the way that the
crime that went down. It was a traffic type of
ship where nigga was out directing traffic and he got hit.
You know, the nigga didn't wake up this morning like
I'm finna drive around and look for motherfuckers directing traffic
(46:04):
and whoever I find, I'm finna just get me. No.
I woke up grieving, missing my son, having real, hateful, real,
you know, towards the police department. I'm not getting no answers.
I'm grieving, I'm grieving. I'm so hurt. I don't know
what the fuck to do. I'm at that point of
(46:26):
no return, like I don't know these motherfucking now. My
motherfucking hatred towards the police is just getting more and
more and more as every day passes with no answers
of why my son was killed. And now I just
happened to be at a stoplight and the motherfucker's directing
traffic and I'm and it just overwhelms me to where.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Yeah, because I can see him trying to execute that crime,
and we he gonna get cut right, he was planning it.
I would think, Okay, man, I'm gonna get my art
and i'm gonna get my ear fifteen. I'm gonna post
up on this building across street from the police station,
and as soon as I do, come on, I'm with
them have it. But I'm gonna be three blocks up
the roads.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
You know. Yeah, a lot of times the motherfuckers with
plans planning to get away, right, Yeah, you don't exactly.
I'm not gonna plan some shit out to get caught.
If I'm planning some ship, I plan to get the
fuck away. So you know, if if if I just
(47:33):
wake up this morning, jump in my car and decide
like fuck it, I see somebody and that's it, then
there's there's there's a chance I'm gonna get caught at
the scene, or a motherfucker gonna follow me, or they
got a description of the vehicle and all that. You know,
when you make a plan, you plan to go scott free,
(47:55):
or you plan to get away with the crime. So
it's gonna be thought out a little bit more than
just you know, barreling through an intersection and taking somebody's life.
You get me that that's that's not a plan. Yeah,
it's said, man, it's said.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
You know what I want to ask you though, Man,
you know, prayers man for that man and his family,
man and the SHARE's family as they go through this ordeal. Man,
because this is probably one of the most fucked up
things I don't seen in the world.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Ugh, it's just said, Like I said, it's it's a
it's a fucked up situation. And like I said, I've
had run ins with the police, so I can understand
as a father, his his blatant hatred towards the situation.
(48:49):
But then again, you know, a motherfucker who got up
this morning to go, you know, direct traffic probably wasn't
thinking like today, a motherfucker, I'm through here and hit
me and take me away from my family and kids.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
And they said, dude, exactly. And they said the dude
had been in the force for a long time, so
if he were doing traffic duty, that man he was
like at that stage of his career to w were
he doing kickback stuff?
Speaker 2 (49:16):
He gets out, I'm winding down, you know, I'm out
here patrolling and looking for drug dealers and gang bangers
and doing all that shit. I'm doing traffic stops and
motherfucking directed traffic when lights and accidents go down. So
you know, like it's just unfortunate, lot, I said, We've
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had our runnings with the police. We've had, you know,
difficult situations of just being a black man and getting
profiled and and you know and all that. But you know,
I know dudes who are police officers. You know, I've
coached with dudes whose sons have played on my teams
who have been officers and you know you've gotten no
(50:04):
dudes and dudes have been cool. You know, it's unfortunate.
I grew up in a time where you know, gang
banging and being black and being profiled in the area
where which was considered you know, hostile is what I
had to go through. But you know, I don't I
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don't consider you know, where I live or where you
know I raised my son that I'm gonna go through
a situation of being at the liquor store getting profiled
or whatever. I look to be treated as a regular.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
You know, man, you feel me color of my skin,
you know so Uh, nobody wishes that motherfucker who got
up and punched the clock this morning lose their life
because you said some unfortunate he just happened to be
a part of a membership. You get me. That's like,
(51:08):
you know, not to make jokes, but that's just like
game life. You feel me, Nigga smoked one of the
homies ship we're gonna go through and unfortunately, if you're
part of that, that game you might lose your life.
You it might you you might not be the nigga
who came through and killed the homie. But you're still
(51:31):
representing from over there. So if we come through and
you just happen to be a motherfucker out there, you
gonna get caught to bully. Bully don't got no name.
You feel me, You're part of that motherfucker set. So
one of y'all did it, and that's unfortunately. You know,
(51:53):
that's how my man looked at it, you know, and
I think it was some I think it was some
spur of the moment.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
But man, in our last few minutes, man, I want
to get into something a little bit lighter. You've been
in the entertainment game a long time, man, do you
think that Kanye is.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Losing it a little bit as far as what his
rants and all.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Yeah, Like, it don't seem like something's mentally wrong with him.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
I mean, everybody you know has had, you know, has
questioned his his his state since the passing of his mother.
You get me, And we don't know, you know, how
what that did to his mental state. A lot of
(52:48):
people have hid and ship that goes on. I don't
know if the nigga taking drugs or you know, we
don't know if he's just whatever. There hasn't been any
real professional diagnosis of his condition. You get me. So
people let Kanye be and just let him run his mouth,
(53:11):
because again, he is a nigga sitting on a billion dollars.
So a lot of times when you're in those positions,
people let you rant for some reason.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
Yeah, they said he went off on Piers Morgan on
his show, and I wonder sometimes how this is impacting
his record seals, if they are impacting his record seals.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
I know, I don't need to sell a record. I
already got a billion dollars. What else do I need
to do at this point. I'm just doing shit to
be doing it, you get me. And that's what he does.
He does shit just to be doing it. When you
and nigga that's sitting on a billion dollars, when you're
a nigga that's sitting on five hundred million dollars, Like like,
(54:05):
what do you really need to do? Ever? Again, if
you have someone that's in your just one motherfucker who's
smart enough to know, let me do this, let me
put this up, let's do this, let me do this.
You know somebody like you in it. For instance, if
(54:25):
you was around a motherfucker who was sitting on a
billion dollars and they people thought they was crazy as
fucking all kind of whatever, whatever, But you had the
mind state you have as a good dude. There's always
gonna be some security you get me. Nigga's never gonna
go broke. It's always gonna you get me this this.
(54:49):
I don't give a fuck if the nigga never sold
another record or made another teny shoe. He has made
enough motherfucking money to where if there's the right person around,
they're gonna keep that shit going forever. You feel me? So, like, really,
like when you say, does it fuck with his record sales?
(55:12):
Or does it fuck with his shoe sales? Or does
it fuck with Kanye been ranting and raven for about
the last ten years? Now, what has it fucked with?
You know what? Because he's still around here, random Raven.
Like again, he's been Rando Raven for about the last
ten years. What has it from the time he started
(55:34):
jumping on the stages and said motherfucking bushing him, been
like black people and all that crazy shit. What has
it stopped? Financially? Financially, what has it stopped?
Speaker 1 (55:49):
It ain't really stop nothing. Speaking of financially, you know,
Jay said he lost almost two hundred million dollars because
you know, he's suing that that girl he's like has
he has a lossuit going on with the girl who
accused him of rape and that attorney right right, and
he's going after them. Ole said he lost two hundred
(56:11):
million dollars messing with that man like because of that.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
All that. Yeah, because you gotta figure business deals and
investors and people like that are gonna be afraid to
fuck with you on certain shit, so you can have
deals on the table nigga worth millions, and people are
gonna pull out certain shit, you get.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
It just because just because of the word, not necessarily
because it's true or no facts behind it. They just
go dish is themselves because don't nobody want to get
cut up in the bit.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
That's like you, you sitting on a you sitting on
a billion couple of billion dollar corporation. You finn to
invest in this dude, and you finish hand this dude
one hundred million. Right before you finish hand him one
hundred million, you hear an allegation of rape and all
this stupid shit would puff feed and whatever whatever you're
(57:02):
gonna give him a hundred.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
Million, you know what, probably not, man, Probably wouldn't be
a good business move.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
That's what you're gonna say. At this time, we're gonna
hold off and we're gonna see how this played out,
and then may be on in the future down the
road will will look back into this venture. But at
this time I don't want to invest a hundred million
into a motherfucker who somebody say rape them, that that
(57:32):
ugly ho hops go sue the ship off this woman. Man,
he's a serious whether whether if whether it comes out true,
I mean not true, and you didn't do it whatever,
just the stain of of of me going through with
the deal while this is going on, it's gonna have
(57:54):
me being frowned upon by certain people like he supposedly
did this and you gave him a hundred million, Like
how dare you? Like you're investing rapists and shit like that.
So now I can't do that shit. I'm gonna keep
one hundred million right now, And like I said, maybe
(58:16):
down the road will come back around when it's when
the funk then died out and not too many people
or you know, but while this whole thing is going on,
and you might not be involved or it might be
false allegations. But with the puffy shit and then all
this other shit, I can't get my hands on. I
(58:37):
can't touch that hot potato right now.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
And that's why I really think they needed to start
having stiffer penalties for people with these false claims of
slander people's names and then you know, coming out with
stuff just to try to gain some money for monetary game.
I think those people need to have criminal charges brought against.
Speaker 2 (58:57):
Him what some people do when it comes to black
mailing and doing shit like that. But that's that's the
new aspect of shit today. The new aspect of shit
is it don't have to be true. All I have
to do is bring up the accusations that it might
(59:17):
have happened, and it's gonna it you know it didn't happen.
But then there's gonna be a motherfucker to tell you.
Maybe you just want to pay this motherfucker off about
five or ten million, because you fuck there, you see
the shit going over shanty short right now. I'm saying
you don't want that stain because look at what happens
(59:41):
in the backlash of just the accusation. There ain't been
no court coming out yet. Everything is just being settle
settled because once it comes out, these million dollar motherfuckers,
they ain't gonna want to fuck with you. So just
think about it. Get a bit five million, so she
(01:00:05):
just go away. If you saying did nothing happen and
everything was consentri fine, But but the stain of going
through the process is gonna fuck you because people are
gonna start doing this with your contracts.
We's Abnue wes abne wes Aden. It's another episode of
Against the Chronicles podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's your boy Big Steal.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, Hey, you know what some funny shit is though.
It's this woman I guess that was tripping on this
little kid in the park, right, a white woman, white woman, right,
and she went off from a kid or whatever, and
some dude, some other brother recorded her right acting the food.
(00:31):
I guess you know, she was dropping the N word
multiple times, you know, call him a little nia and
he recorded her. You know that woman that raised six
hundred thousand dollars already.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well, from what I heard it was, it's on some
you know, white supremacist groups and people who support you know, her,
whatever she or whatever she believes in whatever. So it's
a lot of those people who raise money for her.
(01:07):
That's how she's she's made. She's they they've raised over
seven hundred thousand dollars for her. Few few extremist groups,
white supremacists, people like that, you know, So you know.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
This is crazy, man. I guess this happened in Minnesota, right.
I wonder why is the stuff like this don't ever
happen in our neck of the woods.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, First of all, you got to try to figure
out and understand what is the raising of the money for.
What is she potentially what gonna lose her job, gonna
have to relocate, you know, you know what actually is
the money being raised for.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well, I guess because she now has to move because
they that has been so big, then she has to
move right now. And it's like even they even found
out what she works out at. I guess this is
in Rochester, Minnesota. And the kid that she was the kids,
the kid is at.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Autistic.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, so she went off on an autistic kid. And
and this is crazy. I'm not gonna going to playing
a video and everything else like this. I noticed that
people are getting more and more uncomfortable then with really
we're really using racial ship you.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Know, well, you know, it ain't that people been getting
covering people being comfortable with the ship for a long time.
Now you get me. It's just that you know, it's
frowned upon more, you know, because it's now you know,
(02:56):
social media. Uh there we are. It's all good, keep talking,
you know, social media and ship you know has elevated,
uh you know, certain ship. But it's it ain't like
it's uh like we a stranger to motherfucker's calling us
(03:17):
the N word. I mean, we call each other niggas
as as a gesture of friendship or home ye ship
or whatever. What's uping my nigga? What's up? Won't? We won't.
But you know now that we got the Internet and
ship is being broadcast, that the light has frowned upon
(03:38):
because it is you know, uh, in terms when it's
used upon different races, it's it's it's racial, you feel me?
Uh So you.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Know, I just I'm just picturing the grown ass woman
though calling a little artistic kid out of his name,
and if I would have been out her through some
hot coffee on that.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Picture, well you gotta understand within you see, now that
comes into play of what uh your retaliation would cost you.
You know, now that's physical retaliation. Now you facing jail
time and lawsuits because you know somebody done called you
out your name or call the kid out the name
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something that we're not strangers to. You feel me. Ain't
nobody stranger that shit but for And then it depends
on what neck of the woods you're living in, because
there are those type of places that you know, you
can find yourself in those type of communities that are
you know, predominantly Caucasian based, and you know, if you
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happen to, you know, find yourself upon those type of communities,
you're gonna have to deal properly with some of the
repercussions of what they think of of us. You feel
they been thinking that's a long time still you're giving.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, you well, I don't know if I through the
hot coffee on her, man, but definitely check that bit.
Her name is l Little Hendrix, I guess, and she's
saying that she needs to relocate her family due to
the response to the video. And I noticed many they
haven't been you know, we've always had racist motherfuckers in
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this country, right as long as me and you've been
walking deserving before us, right. But I do believe that
white folks are more comfortable than ever was showing.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
They ass Oh well, you know, like I said, a
lot of people feel that certain laws protect them in
the right of believing in what they believe in. I mean,
you know, we have shit set up to where you know,
we have racial crimes and shit like that. But I
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guess people be feeling like in her aspect as the
freedom of speech allows her to call the motherfucker you know,
a nigga. You know, she feels in her basis and
how she was raised, in the community she supports and
the people that supports her and what she believe in.
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She has that right to say that word if she
wants to, like, you know, shit is you know, she
feeling like what what it's if I can call the
motherfucker that if I want to shit?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, what Evidently she did, and she's about to be
rewarded for it. She's about for sure to be rewarded
for it. This raise you said, seven hundred thousand dollars, Now.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I mean, like I said, unfortunately, like you know, it's
still people who believe in that in that shit, you
get me, it's people who still you know, great grandparents
and grandparents who you know and embedded in them in
the history of what they believe in, and it's just
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passed on and they're still communities and people who have
the right to have these groups. You see you know,
niggas dressing up in their uniforms going out to protest
that certain shit. So there's definitely still communities and people
across the globe who are in support of that shit
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and so they feel they probably feeling like she's a
hero to them. You get me. They hate us, that
bad man, hate the strom as a motherfucker dog. Is it?
Like you said? But is that support welcome in the
black community as on the same aspect. You know, if
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you were living in a in a white community and
called a motherfucker out of eight, you know, you called
a motherfucker that motherfucker word, or you know, something that
they don't like or they despise what the black community
be in support of raising money to help you relocate
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your family in the situation that you might be caused
harm or you know, it might be some bullshit going down.
Do you think it would work vice versa. See, that's
the thing. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You know what, I think we would get like the
fuck up. I think we would have issues.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Do you think do you think the homies and the
black community would get together and raise over seven hundred
thousand dollars to donate to you if you was in
the in the same situation.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
You know what, I don't know, man, Because the little
boy's family has raised six hundred thousand so far. The
little boy there was the victim of this white woman,
this family has raised six hundred thousand. The family told him,
you know, people stop giving them. They shut it.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Down, you know. And what were they raising money for?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well, I guess somebody started raising decided to raise money
on their behalf. Let me see, I tell you right now,
they had decided to raise money on behalf of this
kid write some organization. Let me see, let me tell
you right now. Mhm uh. Because the guy that that
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busted out, right, the guy that busted her out, they found.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Out that he had.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
A criminal pass or whatever. But this is stuff he's
been exonerated on, right, uh huh, So he's had a
little bit of backlash. And I guess they were raising
money for, you know, the wellness of the little boy
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
This is how I feel about all this stuff. Man.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I don't even know if we honestly will ever get
through this racism ship. Man. I think people feel the
fuck the way they feel, and that's what it is.
I won't go as far as to say that we
no longer have a America as black people, African Americans,
whatever you want to call it, but we will say
that we got to start kind of just kind of
hanging with our own. I'm all about like creating our
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own shit. Man, I'm thinking like and I'm nowhere and
everybody any meanings racist? Man, I got white family members, right,
But I do think that America has suh the time
again that there's more motherfuckers that think are fucked.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Up way than not. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I think a lot of people staying hiding, and when
they get a chance to be anonymous with their racism,
they exercise that. If it me and them sending some
money to some bits that don't cut up, they do that.
If it means them voting for a motherfucker, that's go
put certain laws in place that could possibly impede me
and you or hurt people like me and you. I
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think they with it, especially if they can do it
behind closed doors. And so I really think you know
that conquer that man. I think that we need to
start supporting our own We need to start supporting black
businesses and we just stopped needing. We need to stop
supporting motherfuckers that don't fuck with us. I don't know
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why people can't understand that.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Man.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
If they don't fuck with us over at Target, stop
shopping at Target. They don't support us over it if
they acting a certain way to us at this place,
stop supporting.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Them, is it? Yeah, I mean I guess, but that
that's that's that's uh, that's a strong commitment for you know,
people to make when you know some people are addicted
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to the walmarts and the targets and these these these
uh these places, you feel me. So sometimes it might
be hard, you know. You you might tell people let's
boycott and let's do this and that. But most of
the time, motherfuckers is you know, That's why I be saying.
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You know, you could talk a good one to people,
but it's hard to get people to join in and
follow along, you know what I'm saying, when when they're
comfortable with those vices, you feel me.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Now, you being have you ever experienced racism?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
If I ever experienced I mean I've experienced racism to
the point of racial profiling, you know, being a young
black kid or young Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, we don't all feel that. I'm talking about somebody
just coming out of Niger.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Oh No, I've never had to deal with that, you know,
Thank God that you know, I've been able to stay
amongst my peers so to speak. I've never put never
been in a situation to where I've encountered those type
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of people, you know, because you we come, I come
from a different walk of life. You get me, and
I might not be necessarily the person that somebody might
want to express their racial you know, their racial feelings
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towards you give me. With with us, we're going on
tours and going to different towns and sections and you know,
always having security and homies with you. I've never uh
come across someone who has been that blatant to just
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call us niggas or or you know, step out of
line on some racial shit, because you know, in my
earlier days that might have turned into physical violence for
someone you give me. I think I've seen.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I've had situations, man, when I was younger, right, especially
living in Ohio, to where I've had guys rode by
calling us, you know, screaming in the word out the
window or whatever like that. I actually had an incident
one time. We was in the Taco bell me and homies, right,
and we was with one of the helmies and the
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white homie knew karate like this dude really was a
fool with it, right. That was the homie right right,
And these white folks in there. I think they was
at some King State University students. They was in there,
you know, Sander procatory shit, but in a different language, laughing,
and he knew that, and he said, why don't you
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pussy said like say it in English. So we got
into a melee in there. When I tell you that
homies was kicking people upside the head, I'm talking.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
About brals dudes.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
You know, we gave them white folks the business in there.
We almost went to jail for that though, even though
they started it, even though they kind of threw the
first punch, we ented it, but we almost went to jail.
They didn't give a fuck about us talking about what
they said or this and that. They didn't give a damn.
So hell yeah, I've experienced that type of stuff, and
I think would make it more crazy about states like California.
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I think it's a whole bunch of white folks to
feel that way out here. But they know if they
go to Lakewood, Comped, the Long Beach anywhere talking that shit,
they might get slid. That white woman would have said
some shit like that in Gonzales Park or somewhere like that,
she'd have got her ask for me.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, but you know they're gonna and that's one thing
about you know, their kind, they gonna stay in their community.
What it is is you have to be careful about
venturing into their neck of the woods, because they damn
sure ain't gonna come to our neck of the woods.
They ain don't come to Counting, They ain't donna come
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to Watts or South Central, or or the spots in
Chicago or New York or wherever it's vicious. They're gonna
stay amongst themselves now, you know, because being out of
bounce is being caught slipping, and you know, they want
to be comfortable in their own skin. So that's why
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they stay in their surroundings. It's just that when we,
you know, as African Americans, as black people, feel that
we have the right to stay anywhere the fuck we
want to, that we can afford or we can whatever whatever.
You know, Uh, it's it's us venturing into their negative woods.
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It's where you are forced to deal with the rec
repercussions of racism still because unfortunately, just like I had
to tell my son, you know, it still exists. You
get me, you know it's out there. You know, you
can't be naive to the fact that even though you're
black and proud and you know you can whoop a
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motherfucker's ass or that type of aspect you feeling, they
feel just as strongly about. Hey. You know, if it's
a nigga in my neck of the woods, and if
I'm feeling a certain way, you know, I'm an I'm
gonna yell it out. You know, no telling what led
up to the situation of her blurting out that shit
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you feel me to someone's kid. Yeah, well, evidently she
said the little boy wanting her kid's bag or whatever. Again,
this kid you talking about an autistic I have a
nephew that's on the spectrum, right, and sometimes they'd like
to do little things Like my nephew, if he.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Makes you ate, he would come up and just touch
your hands. You feel what I'm saying. That's how he
kind of you know, that's what he does. You know,
like he had come up and touch my hands and
grab my fingers whatever, I hold his hand or whatever.
I just think, man, for people to treat a child
that way, Man, it shouldn't be a place in society
for nothing like that, because you know, white, black, green,
or whatever, a child is a child.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, again we are we are acceptable to certain shit
because we feel as adults we've come out of a
lot of shit being black men. But like I said,
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some people just feel comfortable about the blatant, you know,
racism that there is. Uh, some people just feel strongly
about that shit. Like I said, you can get on
the internet any day and see racism matters fullest. You know,
there's groups, there's websites, there's blogs. You know, it's just unfortunately,
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you know, it's something that we have we've had to
come through. Uh. We feel strongly as a people about
who we are as black people. You know, we could
stand up for ourselves now with whoop a motherfucker asks,
and I dare you to say some shit. But like again,
these are people who feel strongly in their beliefs of
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they don't like us. You get me. And so for uh,
you know, for you know, like you're saying, for it
to be the situation of the little kid going in
somebody's bag or whatever, which is which is? You know,
you have to understand the the mentality of the child
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on the spectrum, so who knows, she not knowing. But
still it's not a case of her, you know, blatantly
just calling him out his name, Uh, not knowing what
the what the situation is. You know again, this is
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you know the thing he was possible. She feel comfortable,
And I'm gonna say this ship, I don't give.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
A fuck, yeah, because you know what broke. I've had
situations to where I might be in the store. I
remember I had a situation to where a little white
boy and threw like a little car, one of them
little toy cars. He threw it at me. Right, it
didn't hurt nothing, kind of hit me. What was I
gonna do? All off and slept the shut out. The
little boy, a little kid. I just kept pushing, you
know what I mean something you know. Mom said oh,
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I'm sorry and went on about her business. I wasn't tripping.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, because who knows you know what I'm saying. Uh yeah,
you like some people, you know. I don't know. I
don't know, Like I said.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Uh, I just think we losing our mind in this country.
And I know you heard about this one man, the
brother Rodney hitting junior man who ran over the who
ran over the police officer behind his son getting shot.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
No, what's what's what's that? You haven't heard about that, height,
I ain't heard about that.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Okay. This brother Rodney Hitting Jr. And his son was
shot dead by police right the night before and he
just got denied bond and killing the sheriff's deputy, you know,
after the disturbance in court. His son was evidently in
some kind of incident in the stolen car whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I don't quite know.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
The full details of it, right, but what it was,
the police say his son had a gun.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
He had a gun which they can't see on the
body camp for it, so they shot him right. Oh,
boy was so mad he went after the next day
and ran over a deputy. Now, wouldn't say that. I've
heard a few people say that it was the same
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guy that shot his son. I've heard that it wasn't
the same I heard. He just went and got a motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Right. If you would have saw this brother walking cork
man with all.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
These it was a whole bunch of sheriffs like standing
in the road beside him, and he walked between them,
motherfuckers just gooling that.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
They ass like, yeah, I do something.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
This man is traumatized behind his son getting killed. He
wasn't having it but he went to whack the motherfucker.
Now here's my thing. Where do I understand that father's anger?
Do I understand this? Ain't you damn right? If somebody
did something to any one of my kids, ain't no
telling what I would do, Ain't no telling what she
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would do? You this man probably have lost his mind
in stas who had a mental breakfast, sure, right, but
not seeing it making no difference, right, But I think
it would have been viewed differently had it actually been
the mother that the shot his son.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
He's going to ring the motherfucker over. Yeah, that's that's
tough right there. Yeah it it's real tough. Fuck that
they recovered the gun that they said if the kid
had no and.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
They don't have bodycam footage here there is shoot not
hip to it. I'm gonna read. I'm gonna read. I'm
give a low down on it. Rodney Hing Jr. Who
authorities say intentionally hit him killed in Ohio sheriff's deputy
with a car after his son was fatally shot by police,
but remained in jail without bond while he a waste
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trial and the murder charge. King Jr. Was the nied
bond of the Twoesday Court here in Cincinnati. He has
charged with aggravated murder for the main second killing of
Hamilton County ship as Jeffrey Larry Henderson.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
There would be an order of a man with no bond.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
He is a shorter safety of the defendant and any mental
health treatment that he can be granted. Hamilton County Judge
Tyrone Yates said, the hearing is the things the building
in the case that began last week Instincinnati police shot
and killed Hending Junior's son, but le He said eighteen
year old Ryan Hendon was one of four men who
were fleeing after officers found him in the.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Stolen car, and that he was armed when he ran.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
N Junior's attorney Clyde Ben the second end of the
plea of not guilty on his client's behalf and request fail.
During Tuesday's hearing, Bennett asked for him Junior not to
be thought of as a cop killer, but a person
with mental illness. I don't think he was a cop killer.
I think he's not in his right mind, Ben said,
and I think he should be treated like any other
mentally ill person that commits a crime. Monther the auspicies
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controlled and authority of a mental defense in that condition.
After the hearing begins, the turbans erupted in the the
gallery and HNT Jr. Was rushed out of the courtroom
by law enforcement. The man yell, I used to want
my brother to see me. Hearing resumed after the man
was esported out and hing Junr. Was brought back into
the courtroom. Ben It told Jason to his acknowledgement, the
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man was not hitting Junior's brother. So if you would
have sort of look on these police officers face eight,
you know how they are.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Everybody was one of their own, right.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I'm surprised one of them guys didn't pull a gun
out their hopster man to shoot that dude. The way
they was looking at me.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
They didn't have a chance, because you definitely would have.
They would have roughed him up, you know what I'm saying,
once they got a hold of him. I mean, that's
kind of yeah, it's deep in it. Yeah, that that's
a hard one right there, because as a father with
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a son, even know, there's there's no extent or length
that you wouldn't go through to protect your son. And
you know only you know the morale of your son
it's unfortunate that you know, like I said, we don't
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know what kind of lifestyle he was living. I mean,
because for them to turn around and say he was
with other dudes in a robbery and all that shit.
But the thing is you you you don't have evidence
of a weapon and you don't have bodycam footage. So
that's what makes it suspicious on a father's behalf. You
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give me no answers to why you shot my son?
You saying like you know and your your your evaluation
of your son is like, my son ain't robbing no
motherfucking body, you know what I'm saying. And he definitely
had no pistol unless you know your son is in
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that lifestyle. So that's gonna that's gonna fuck up ship
right there. And then when you looking for answers there
or none, you get me why you shoot my son?
You say he had a gun, but there's no gun found,
and then you had no Now we got no body
can footage, So I don't know what the fuck y'all did.
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Y'all could have just jumped out and just start shooting
my son on the active being, on the aspect of
being you know, paranoid cops.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, it's a whole bunch of look at and especially
you know with this brother, I do think it's a
mental illness thing.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Man. You know, it's so much wrong on both sides
of this.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Right, you got the police once if you an't gun
down a brother, they said they had a gun, that
didn't have a gun. Right, and you got to sheriff
that has lost his life. You feel what I mean
that you know he's not coming home in his family now.
I just think that whenever you had a loss of life,
on both sides, it's just a bad thing. I do
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think this is a mental illness thing on our and
I hope that they don't look at this as a
personal thing because I think this man had a mental break.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
He lost his son, or definitely out of a mental break.
If uh, it's thought process was I'm gonna go out here,
and who knows what it is. I don't want to
say that they was planned. He could have been. He
could have been fucking rolling around one day and just
seeing the police, you know, and and and just snapped.
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You get me, uh by asking, because that's that's traumatic.
You know, that's on any parent losing their kid in
the situation of being shot and killed, you know, you know,
uh and and to be a you get me, that's devastating.
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I be devastated if something happened to my son, somebody
shot and killed my son at eighteen years old. I
don't know what to deal with it. I don't know.
I don't know, you know, I just hoping print that.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
You know, I'm gonna rebut that man that me and
you ever have to go through some shit like that,
because I don't know how it processed.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Right, and so it's hard to say what his thought
process was. And for the fact that you know, most
of the times you deal with these situation, these these
parents who deal with that aspect of their child going
through that gang life and being murdered and a drive
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by and not getting answers or whatever. You know, this
man had the police killed him. You get me, ya,
you already gotten it. You know, there's already that that
love hate, you know, relationship that we as black people
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have with the police. You get me a feeling being
felt racial profile as a as a as a black man,
and and now knowing what you might have had to
go through as a young motherfucker with the police. You
just knowing in this day and age, you got an
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eighteen year old son, you could just imagine that situation
right there.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
So man, and I imagine you know, that's what I think,
God Man, that cats like me and you had certain
attributes can tell and and opportunities to allow us to
take our kids out of those type of situations.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, because it's you can't prevent it. You get me.
Growing up in the neighborhoods, you know, you gravitate to
niggas in the neighborhood. You know, those be the niggas.
You play football with the niggas, You ride bikes with
the niggas. You you know, uh uh, go to school
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with from from from elementary on up to high school
and and and so it's hard to escape that when
you're living in the neighborhood. It's always it's almost like
a rite of passage. You get me and and most
of the time it don't even have to be family
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uh family affiliated. You get me or my brother was
in the gang and then my cousin and WoT you want.
Sometimes just growing up in the hood and and befriended
niggas from your childhood. You know, sh nigga. We was
in the second grade together, fifth grade together, having grades together,
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tenth grade together, and then we live in around the
corners from each other, in the same community, same neighborhood.
If like I said, sometimes it's just the rite of passage.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah, and you figure like this, right, our sons was
raising suburbs, right, you know, places to where they can
go to the movies at night, and just certain stuff
wouldn't happen because your son could have been just on
the xority ride with some cash and stolen car.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Nothing about, man, he could have just been caught up.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And how many times have you found yourself caught up
in situations? Dog to wear was some dumb shit that
she wasn't even aware of. Motherfucker homie ride by pick
you up in a car that stolen. You don't want
nothing about it.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
You just cruising.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Next thing you know, he jumping out the car and
everybody's running and you running. There are so many ways, man,
we could have been caught up in the same situations
coming up.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Man, Man, I used to always, even though you know,
you try to raise your kids in different communities than
what we was raised in, I still didn't put past nothing.
You feel me, I used to always tell them watch
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out who you hang around. Don't don't be a follower,
be a leader. You know shit, you know, because their
still motherfuckers may be feeling like because of where you live,
shit might be easier to get away with or get into.
You feel me, So I used to always tell them,
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you know, That's why I used to always try to
keep them occupying you get me. That was one way
I felt like, not in a sense of controlling, but
I was able to, you know, vouch for and see
a lot of shit you're getting. Saw kids you was
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going to school with. I saw the kids that you
was hanging around. Because I'm there mostly all the time.
You're getting I'm gonna pick you up from school, you know,
when you're in elementary school, when you get to motherfucking
intermediate school, you know, I'm your football coach. So once
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you get out of school, you around me from the time.
You know, you go to practice all day, and then
by time practice over, we get home nine o'clock, it's
time to go to bed. Your friends you developed through
school and through fucking playing sports, so I was able
to be a part of that, you know, growing up
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in the hood. Shit, my influences was the niggas on
the corner. It wasn't the niggas out you know, playing
sports with and shit, even though I tried that aspect.
But growing up in the hood were just moms and
my sister and the influences what I saw on the block.
You know, it wasn't it wasn't. It wasn't hard for
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me to get into the gang lifestyle because I was
influenced by that. So you have to be careful about,
you know, your surroundings and where you live and all that.
And people don't think that, but being a product of
your environment is big. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
It's everything, man, And that's why I thought it was
still important.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I made it actually, when I became a father, I
made it my mission to move my kids about the
neighborhood to where they would never have to be subject
to certain things because it's just a nettle occurrence.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Man, that's net occurrence, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
And you know they're sticking to man that they didn't
you know that this kid had a gun. Again, there's
no gun on the body cam fact, you know footage
they say it's real grainy and blurrid, that you can't
see nothing, right, And I'm not one of those people
that hate the policeman, but it seemed like we do
drop disproportionately.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
As as as as I said, growing up in the
community like Compton and and the stories you you hear
as a child, or what you see or what you're
able to you know, uh, what you're able to witness
for yourself. Now with the help of documentaries and you know,
(36:33):
YouTube and internets and whatever, we as black people have
a sour taste in our mouth behind police h That's
why I you.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Know, listen to this though, bro on cross examination by Bennett,
BB said he would assume hitting Junior source of the
agitation is Bennett put it was watching the body camera video.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Nelson argued him Jors in his current.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
State is a giant mental health question mark, has clear
and present danger and possessed impose the substantial risk of
physical harm the law enforcement officers into the public is
evidenced by his conduct. While been pointing out that him
Juniors lacks any previous felt in conventions, live in the area,
and has family ties, the judge caught him to be
held without bond. Find it very difficult to figure out
(37:28):
how there could be any decision based on what they
said that would protect the public and the defendant under
these circumstances. Jade said his next courtdate is May twelve.
I kind of agree with the judge. I think in
this mental statement, who's to say he won't get out
and go run over twenty more people?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Right?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
This man is his tak's You don't know what state
he's in. But I wouldn't keep him in jail. I
would put him somewhere for mental evaluation. That's what he
should be. You tell you, you know, when a person
is sick, you take him to the hospital, right right,
This man is probably experienced in grief.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
He is never filter in his life.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Before dog they said, the man don't have no This
is not a man who's just been fucking up his
whole life. This is a man who lost his son
and he's probably experience of grief. To the to the
tienth power.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, but they're not gonna But because of the fact
that he's killed a police officer, they're not going to
go We're not going to give you no mental route,
you get me. We're not you know, they're not gonna
(38:38):
He could have did anything but killed a police officer,
you get me. He could have ran over a you know,
or went out and you know killed the person that
you I mean, I don't know, but killing the police
officers on a different level of of of of what
(38:59):
they see. And we're not going to let you ride
a mental case when you then kill the police officer,
it's not going to work. So unfortunately, I'm pretty sure
his mental state was broken for the fact that first
(39:21):
of all, my son is dead. Second of all, he
was killed by a police officer. Third, we as black
people already have a bad outlook on the police as
far as killing black people. So there you have another
case of the police, you know, doing bodily harm to
(39:45):
another young black man. You know, we've seen the cases
over and over again. Then it shit, you can keep
naming the issues. You got no body cam footage? Where's
the gun that you said? So, so, where's the pistol?
If you're saying he drew down on you and he
(40:07):
had a gun, where's the body Oh so all of
a sudden, nobody came for the just grainy as blurry,
but there should be a weapon still, right.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah, exactly. And I would be remiss to say that
this dad probably wouldn't have acted that way had he
so is soon pull out a gun. But I'm imagining
this man looking at body cam for he's wondering, why
did they.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Shoot my gun? He posed no danger to them. Why
did they kill my son? I mean, yeah, that's that's
that's you know, that's most of the time. Anytime the
police is involved in a in a in a shooting
where there's a victim of of of minority issues, you
(40:52):
get me Blacks, Mexicans. It's always the question of why
you get me? Isn't that so common with us that
it's almost too common when it involves the police and
the victim of color, it's always the aspect of why,
(41:16):
and people speak up on well, he wasn't no crazed
ass maniac or his mental state. You know a lot
of times he was mentor or you know, the police
didn't understand he had a problem or whatever. Uh No,
I mean it's always question, like I said, when it
(41:37):
comes to so so like for him and his mental status.
You never know, but they're not going to give him
the pleasure of going to a mental institution and you know,
working over the aggravations of him dealing with these These
(42:00):
are the people who killed my son and I'm deal
with and answer questions every day to why, and nobody
can get me answers, you get me. So yeah, like
I said, I'm not gonna say that he premeditated to
go out and fuck that they killed my son. I'm
(42:23):
finna kill one of them, you get me. He could
have been driving down the street one day, had a
break down, saw police and just snapped. So yeah, yeah,
and that's my thing. Hey, it's a sad situation.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Man. I feel sorry man for that brother. I feel
sorry for his family. I feel feel sorry for the
officer that got ran over dog. You know, it's a
lot of people that's gonna be damaged by this.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
It ain't none of it good, you know, Yeah, because
you know, I'm pretty sure the dude had a face
family the officer, and you know, if if he wasn't
involved in this tragedy, uh, that just make him an
innocent victim. You get me.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
And that's what I'm saying. You know, I try to
tell Glasses and I tell people be careful on putting
false narratives out there. Glasses told me, no, that was
the man that they shot his son. Dude, First of all,
that wasn't the man that shot his son. The man
that shot his son would have been placed on the
administrative lead. He wouldn't have been off the directing no
traffic the next day. I don't think me now, you
(43:36):
feel what I'm saying. He wouldn't have been out there
just directing traffic the next day.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
You know this, this was an incident of of like
what they call crimes and passion, Like I didn't plan
to kill a motherfucker. I didn't plan on a motherfucker
getting hurt. It's just that I was so overwround with
(44:00):
grief and then I'm I'm I'm probably sitting at a light,
you know what I'm saying, grieving so bad and and
and can't deal with the motherfucking pressure of it. And
then there before me is a motherfucker out directing traffic.
And it's exactly that's no different of of you being
(44:25):
in the courtroom and they got the motherfucker who then
killed your son on the motherfucking you know, sitting in
the shit and you're gonna snap, You're gonna try and
get to that motherfucker. We've seen it numerous times on
crime shows. Motherfuckers killer relative or a son or a daughter,
(44:46):
and the daddy or the brother or somebody coming there,
and the first thing they do is take a leap
of faith to try to get their hands on the motherfucker.
So so who knows how how how dad was feeling
about the loss of his son.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
And you know, yeah, you were smart, dude, bro, just
by seeing that that whole thing was a particular homicide.
Lets you know right there that he wasn't probably planning
on killing nobody. He was driving so that officer and
just want to hit his ass.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah, it's it's like you're saying, it's a spare of
the moment crime of passion. I'm in the heat of
passion type shit, Like I didn't wake up this morning
going I'm finna just going you get me, Like.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
When you do stuff like that, you always a state
you can get guns real easy. You got access to
guns real easy.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Right, But but still look at the way that the
crime that went down. It was a traffic type of
ship where nigga was out directing traffic and he got hit.
You know, the nigga didn't wake up this morning like
I'm finna drive around and look for motherfuckers directing traffic
(46:04):
and whoever I find, I'm finna just get me. No.
I woke up grieving, missing my son, having real, hateful, real,
you know, towards the police department. I'm not getting no answers.
I'm grieving, I'm grieving. I'm so hurt. I don't know
what the fuck to do. I'm at that point of
(46:26):
no return, like I don't know these motherfucking now. My
motherfucking hatred towards the police is just getting more and
more and more as every day passes with no answers
of why my son was killed. And now I just
happened to be at a stoplight and the motherfucker's directing
traffic and I'm and it just overwhelms me to where.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Yeah, because I can see him trying to execute that crime,
and we he gonna get cut right, he was planning it.
I would think, Okay, man, I'm gonna get my art
and i'm gonna get my ear fifteen. I'm gonna post
up on this building across street from the police station,
and as soon as I do, come on, I'm with
them have it. But I'm gonna be three blocks up
the roads.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
You know. Yeah, a lot of times the motherfuckers with
plans planning to get away, right, Yeah, you don't exactly.
I'm not gonna plan some shit out to get caught.
If I'm planning some ship, I plan to get the
fuck away. So you know, if if if I just
(47:33):
wake up this morning, jump in my car and decide
like fuck it, I see somebody and that's it, then
there's there's there's a chance I'm gonna get caught at
the scene, or a motherfucker gonna follow me, or they
got a description of the vehicle and all that. You know,
when you make a plan, you plan to go scott free,
(47:55):
or you plan to get away with the crime. So
it's gonna be thought out a little bit more than
just you know, barreling through an intersection and taking somebody's life.
You get me that that's that's not a plan. Yeah,
it's said, man, it's said.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
You know what I want to ask you though, Man,
you know, prayers man for that man and his family,
man and the SHARE's family as they go through this ordeal. Man,
because this is probably one of the most fucked up
things I don't seen in the world.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Ugh, it's just said, Like I said, it's it's a
it's a fucked up situation. And like I said, I've
had run ins with the police, so I can understand
as a father, his his blatant hatred towards the situation.
(48:49):
But then again, you know, a motherfucker who got up
this morning to go, you know, direct traffic probably wasn't
thinking like today, a motherfucker, I'm through here and hit
me and take me away from my family and kids.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
And they said, dude, exactly. And they said the dude
had been in the force for a long time, so
if he were doing traffic duty, that man he was
like at that stage of his career to w were
he doing kickback stuff?
Speaker 2 (49:16):
He gets out, I'm winding down, you know, I'm out
here patrolling and looking for drug dealers and gang bangers
and doing all that shit. I'm doing traffic stops and
motherfucking directed traffic when lights and accidents go down. So
you know, like it's just unfortunate, lot, I said, We've
(49:40):
had our runnings with the police. We've had, you know,
difficult situations of just being a black man and getting
profiled and and you know and all that. But you know,
I know dudes who are police officers. You know, I've
coached with dudes whose sons have played on my teams
who have been officers and you know you've gotten no
(50:04):
dudes and dudes have been cool. You know, it's unfortunate.
I grew up in a time where you know, gang
banging and being black and being profiled in the area
where which was considered you know, hostile is what I
had to go through. But you know, I don't I
(50:27):
don't consider you know, where I live or where you
know I raised my son that I'm gonna go through
a situation of being at the liquor store getting profiled
or whatever. I look to be treated as a regular.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
You know, man, you feel me color of my skin,
you know so Uh, nobody wishes that motherfucker who got
up and punched the clock this morning lose their life
because you said some unfortunate he just happened to be
a part of a membership. You get me. That's like,
(51:08):
you know, not to make jokes, but that's just like
game life. You feel me, Nigga smoked one of the
homies ship we're gonna go through and unfortunately, if you're
part of that, that game you might lose your life.
You it might you you might not be the nigga
who came through and killed the homie. But you're still
(51:31):
representing from over there. So if we come through and
you just happen to be a motherfucker out there, you
gonna get caught to bully. Bully don't got no name.
You feel me, You're part of that motherfucker set. So
one of y'all did it, and that's unfortunately. You know,
(51:53):
that's how my man looked at it, you know, and
I think it was some I think it was some
spur of the moment.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
But man, in our last few minutes, man, I want
to get into something a little bit lighter. You've been
in the entertainment game a long time, man, do you
think that Kanye is.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Losing it a little bit as far as what his
rants and all.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Yeah, Like, it don't seem like something's mentally wrong with him.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
I mean, everybody you know has had, you know, has
questioned his his his state since the passing of his mother.
You get me, And we don't know, you know, how
what that did to his mental state. A lot of
(52:48):
people have hid and ship that goes on. I don't
know if the nigga taking drugs or you know, we
don't know if he's just whatever. There hasn't been any
real professional diagnosis of his condition. You get me. So
people let Kanye be and just let him run his mouth,
(53:11):
because again, he is a nigga sitting on a billion dollars.
So a lot of times when you're in those positions,
people let you rant for some reason.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
Yeah, they said he went off on Piers Morgan on
his show, and I wonder sometimes how this is impacting
his record seals, if they are impacting his record seals.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
I know, I don't need to sell a record. I
already got a billion dollars. What else do I need
to do at this point. I'm just doing shit to
be doing it, you get me. And that's what he does.
He does shit just to be doing it. When you
and nigga that's sitting on a billion dollars, when you're
a nigga that's sitting on five hundred million dollars, Like like,
(54:05):
what do you really need to do? Ever? Again, if
you have someone that's in your just one motherfucker who's
smart enough to know, let me do this, let me
put this up, let's do this, let me do this.
You know somebody like you in it. For instance, if
(54:25):
you was around a motherfucker who was sitting on a
billion dollars and they people thought they was crazy as
fucking all kind of whatever, whatever, But you had the
mind state you have as a good dude. There's always
gonna be some security you get me. Nigga's never gonna
go broke. It's always gonna you get me this this.
(54:49):
I don't give a fuck if the nigga never sold
another record or made another teny shoe. He has made
enough motherfucking money to where if there's the right person around,
they're gonna keep that shit going forever. You feel me? So, like, really,
like when you say, does it fuck with his record sales?
(55:12):
Or does it fuck with his shoe sales? Or does
it fuck with Kanye been ranting and raven for about
the last ten years? Now, what has it fucked with?
You know what? Because he's still around here, random Raven.
Like again, he's been Rando Raven for about the last
ten years. What has it from the time he started
(55:34):
jumping on the stages and said motherfucking bushing him, been
like black people and all that crazy shit. What has
it stopped? Financially? Financially, what has it stopped?
Speaker 1 (55:49):
It ain't really stop nothing. Speaking of financially, you know,
Jay said he lost almost two hundred million dollars because
you know, he's suing that that girl he's like has
he has a lossuit going on with the girl who
accused him of rape and that attorney right right, and
he's going after them. Ole said he lost two hundred
(56:11):
million dollars messing with that man like because of that.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
All that. Yeah, because you gotta figure business deals and
investors and people like that are gonna be afraid to
fuck with you on certain shit, so you can have
deals on the table nigga worth millions, and people are
gonna pull out certain shit, you get.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
It just because just because of the word, not necessarily
because it's true or no facts behind it. They just
go dish is themselves because don't nobody want to get
cut up in the bit.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
That's like you, you sitting on a you sitting on
a billion couple of billion dollar corporation. You finn to
invest in this dude, and you finish hand this dude
one hundred million. Right before you finish hand him one
hundred million, you hear an allegation of rape and all
this stupid shit would puff feed and whatever whatever you're
(57:02):
gonna give him a hundred.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
Million, you know what, probably not, man, Probably wouldn't be
a good business move.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
That's what you're gonna say. At this time, we're gonna
hold off and we're gonna see how this played out,
and then may be on in the future down the
road will will look back into this venture. But at
this time I don't want to invest a hundred million
into a motherfucker who somebody say rape them, that that
(57:32):
ugly ho hops go sue the ship off this woman. Man,
he's a serious whether whether if whether it comes out true,
I mean not true, and you didn't do it whatever,
just the stain of of of me going through with
the deal while this is going on, it's gonna have
(57:54):
me being frowned upon by certain people like he supposedly
did this and you gave him a hundred million, Like
how dare you? Like you're investing rapists and shit like that.
So now I can't do that shit. I'm gonna keep
one hundred million right now, And like I said, maybe
(58:16):
down the road will come back around when it's when
the funk then died out and not too many people
or you know, but while this whole thing is going on,
and you might not be involved or it might be
false allegations. But with the puffy shit and then all
this other shit, I can't get my hands on. I
(58:37):
can't touch that hot potato right now.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
And that's why I really think they needed to start
having stiffer penalties for people with these false claims of
slander people's names and then you know, coming out with
stuff just to try to gain some money for monetary game.
I think those people need to have criminal charges brought against.
Speaker 2 (58:57):
Him what some people do when it comes to black
mailing and doing shit like that. But that's that's the
new aspect of shit today. The new aspect of shit
is it don't have to be true. All I have
to do is bring up the accusations that it might
(59:17):
have happened, and it's gonna it you know it didn't happen.
But then there's gonna be a motherfucker to tell you.
Maybe you just want to pay this motherfucker off about
five or ten million, because you fuck there, you see
the shit going over shanty short right now. I'm saying
you don't want that stain because look at what happens
(59:41):
in the backlash of just the accusation. There ain't been
no court coming out yet. Everything is just being settle
settled because once it comes out, these million dollar motherfuckers,
they ain't gonna want to fuck with you. So just
think about it. Get a bit five million, so she
(01:00:05):
just go away. If you saying did nothing happen and
everything was consentri fine, But but the stain of going
through the process is gonna fuck you because people are
gonna start doing this with your contracts.
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