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On this episode Steele and MC Eiht analyze the whole Drake/Kendrick/Ross thing that’s going on right now, why bragging on how much money you have is corny and much more.

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rating the comment what's happening? What's up? We'd like to
welcome you to another episode of Gangst the Chronicles podcast
with Gangst the Rap, lizs and It's your Boy Big
Steal along with yeh hey man, you knew we were
supposed to have a guest tonight. Right, Oh, should I
know it's all good? I didn't. I didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I ain't know, you know me, I just they show up,
they show up, they don't, they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, man, you know what I should I shouldn't say
his name, but I am. You know Rodney, Yo, what
was supposed to come through? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Well, you know, maybe we had better obligations or something.
You know, we we uh, I guess you know, we
gonna say hopefully nothing serious. But you know, sometimes motherfuckers
just be like, hey, it can't help it.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Sometimes people don't feel you know, I guess certain certain
things aren't as important or or as a vow you're getting.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, you know what. I don't never take this stuff
personal because it ain't like we was paying them a check,
busting them a check or nothing. You know, it had
been a cool favorite for us. But I think it
would be cool just to call somebody and say, hey, man,
I ain't gonna come or whatever. You know what I'm saying.
But I ain't mad though, shout to Rodney. You'll hopefully
everything all right? Right? You know that it is what
it is.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
And some people get funny with their appearances and like
I said, what they feel is important, So it is
what it is. You know, sometimes people have other obligations
or maybe just forgot you know.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, it's all good man. You know what. It's been
a lot of talk, you know, and I know we've
spoke them a little bit last week. This whole beef
thing is going down, and I don't like to call
it a beef, this rap battle, because I don't think
nobody gonna get hurt, hopefully not. You know, now, Rick
Ross in it. Kendrick has yet to respond to. Drake
is out there. And one thing I noticed is that

(02:57):
Drake's sung hasn't went to the streaming service ship yet. Still,
you got me.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I don't pay attention to a lot of shit, uh
that goes on today. What you know, A lot of
this stuff is a lot of stuff be set ups
and gimmicks and gimmicks and.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Ways to help you know, almost marketing employee. It could
be a market employe because one of the things, you know,
shout out to the homie Glass is one of the
things that me and him have been talking about lately.
In the event of AI. You know, a lot of
people is using AI to demo out records now, you know,
but people don't get though, you still have to go

(03:42):
write those records. You just pretty much dim on you know,
demo on the record out of somebody else's voice, right,
Those raps still gotta be wrote. And one of the
things that they suspect is that Drake's song was actually
written by somebody else. Need to get into AI and
earlier version leaked or whatever, and the business never got handled,
so they're for they never put it out or whatever
you know, on the streaming services or whatever. But you

(04:05):
never know, though, doog.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, that's that's that's too much above my my that's
above my pay grade. Artificial intelligence and and and fake songs.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
And you know the originally you feel about other people
writing reps though, like how do you feel about rappers
having ghost writers?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
I mean shit, I myself have never used a ghostwriter,
you know. I've always been able to come up with
with songs or whatever, hooks, fray, whatever you know, or
if you're true at what you do, I always tell people, uh,
come natural, you get me, like waking up, putting a

(04:50):
pair of pants on, or you know, brushing your teeth whatever.
If you're true at what you do in your craft,
then it should be easy to pen, you know, lyrics
or whatever. But a lot of people blow they watts.
You know, you put out a good album, they might

(05:13):
have a brain freeze or writer's block because they can't
think of anything else to come up with. You know,
once you tell that first tell or story of originality,
and especially if you become successful, hard to focus.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I guess on.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
The hard times you know that you expressed or trying
to make it, or trying to get in or you know,
late nights in the studios and just being serious. I mean,
come on, let's face it. You turn around and get
a double triple platinum album off your first go around,
start seeing a gang of money off of shows, and

(05:57):
you know, people wanting to fuck with you, and you know,
the successes of touring and all of that.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Tend to forget about where you came from. You get me.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, then you want to push that image like I've
always had it.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
You get me. But you brought up an interest in
plaint though, Bro, when you on the road and you
got all these obligations because the bigger you are, the
more opportunities come, and you don't want to turn these
opportunities down because it could be real lucrative. You know
what I'm saying, do you really have time to sit
up and write raps at a certain time, because it

(06:35):
ain't like it was when you first got on and me,
I hold hip hop to a different regard, like right,
I don't know. I don't think it's nothing wrong. If
somebody come in helping you with hooks and helping you
put songs together, that's a whole different thing. Like you
may get a beat that already got a hook in
a bridge on it, you just come a rap on.

(06:55):
I don't look at that as really nobody writing your
stuff versus y'all putting together a record. You feel what
I'm saying, ain't nothing wrong with that, But you being
an MC stuff coming out to your mind, you telling
the story of somebody else writing that, writing that for
you kind of take away from authenticity. And I ain't
mad at it either way. I'm because you know, we

(07:18):
all know some of the biggest artists in the game,
US writers Like.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
I mean, yeah, it's I don't think it's a secret
to unless motherfuckers want to make it a secret. But
there's a lot of artists who you know, shit you
can tell that oh they didn't write that you get
some don't feel there's any shame, oh no, getting somebody

(07:41):
else to pin a song or whatever.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I think it depends on wherever you at, Like singers
do it all day. Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
So I guess that's the aspect when you But then
on like on your to answer your question about being
too busy, I've been in putting positions to where, you know,
touring and movie sets, and I always managed to keep
a notebook in my bag.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
But that's what I'm saying for some people like and
like and this ain't no knock now, but I think
everybody know about now that Snoop. Other people write some
of Snoop's records. Some of his biggest records don't been
written by the homies. You know, uh, you know, I
want a rock record. I think the Homely Bad Look
wrote that you feel what I mean? I know problem
been over there putting P in the pad, But I
don't think that necessarily makes Snoop a we can see

(08:30):
versus him just giving people opportunities sometimes, you know.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
I mean shit, some people are just bread for that
to be in writers. Some people, uh want to not
be in that position, you know. I don't want to
be the celebrity and whatever. But I can come up
with good concepts and storylines and so, you know, we

(08:58):
got a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
So you think, man, you coming from the era of
hip hop that you come from, Man, do you think
it's okay for people to be writing other people's reps? I? Now,
I don't count Snooping that because Snoop has been like
like Snoop is a whole nother level. Now, I don't
think you would count him cause he definitely wrote his

(09:19):
own stuff when he was first coming up and DC.
I guess DC helped him a little bit, but that
was them putting together a hit record. So I don't
really count that, you know. But if you found out,
like a dude like Drake, somebody else is writing Drake's
raps the whole time he been doing this, don't you
think that kind of take away from misauthenticity? Uh? I don't.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
I had no judgment on it, because if it's not
really if it's not really my style of music, then
who am I to say?

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Uh? You know.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
What you do to get over M that show? You
you know, that's your position. And when you're an international
artist like that, I'm probably sure, you present it with
a lot of songs from different motherfucker get it camp.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
And I'm a Drake fan, like I think Drake make
incredible music, But is he a hip hop artist?

Speaker 3 (10:19):
I'm I'm I'm a I'm like I said, I'm a
different artist.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
You know, I'm a.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
I'm a reality artist. I tend to not do what
it's trendy and what gonna get to that status of
being that type of crossover artist or whatever it is.
So I don't I don't consider artists outside of my

(10:52):
realm to do what you know, they do what they do.
I don't know what category you want to put it in.
You want to put it in the rap or you're
a rapper, that's fine, But you know, I come from
a different era, and we just thought differently about certain
type of music.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Just like in our era, we had the pm dons
you get me, uh, which is kind of like the
precursor with They would tell you in a minute, we
hip hop artists, right, they went to hip hop shows. Remember,
they get confronted by MO because we didn't feel and

(11:33):
true hip hop artists didn't feel they were in the
line of hip hop you get me.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Shoot that was a monster ricord they had. Yeah, that's
what I said.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
That was like, like you said, the precursor to that
era of the one minute we rapping on the record,
the next thing, you know, we're vocalizing on the record,
we're singing.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
That was you know around that. So, when.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
You are true hip hop artist and you come from
the motherfucking trenches of hip hop, and you know the
basically the slave mentality of you're not welcome here, you
get me, That's what hip hop went through in the beginning.
You're not welcome here. You know, y'all gotta go through

(12:25):
the back door. You get me, y'all gotta hold y'all
parties in abandoned buildings and basements. How dare you think
you can come to a club and perform you get me?
We were so to have someone claim your craft, But
then motherfuckers is wearing weird outfits and you know, bones

(12:48):
and sticks through their hair and noses, and then you
singing love songs on records, it kind.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Of it defiles what you worked hard to. You get me.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
That ain't motherfucking hip hop, That ain't motherfuckers. You know
what I'm saying. Getting run down by the police or
trying to throw parties in empty basements just to get
our sound out there and people to believe in our shit.
And then you can get a motherfucker to come along
and put a dress on and make a mockery of
what niggas really you get me try to represent as

(13:23):
far as bringing hip hop to the forefront, Now y'all
want to make a mockery out of it. Now you
want to be singing on motherfucking records and calling it
hip hop?

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like, I don't even
know if Drake can be considered a rapper because he
do more sing than anything else. But you know, his
records sound good when you know he's a good rapper,
you know, regardless who're writing and stuff, he still got
to execute it. You feel what I'm saying. But I
don't really look at him like no hip hop artists

(13:51):
like that and nothing where we at in hip hop.
Like I was kind of listening to them go back
and forth to him and Rose go back and forth,
and I think that sometimes these cats just get so
out of range of what normal people is at in life.
Like they talked talking about like, oh, your house only
worth fifty million. You got a content creator house. The
average person ain't living in a fifty million dollar house.

(14:13):
The average person is not living in a million dollar home.
You feel what I'm saying. Yeah, And it get kind
of to where it's kind of like hip hop is
in this funny place now to where I think people
base a lot of what they got going on by
much bread they got.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Well, we used to have Braggadocia's rappers. You know, I'm this,
I'm mad, I'm bad, I'm the greatest. You know, I'm
we this, I got the I got the I got
the Polo this on. You know, we got the we
got the fat dookie links. We've always had Braggadocia's rappers.
But I think in this day and age, as far

(14:52):
as with economy and finances and uh flossing is at
in all time?

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Hi, you get me.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Motherfuckers want you to know, I got some dollars.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
You get me.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
The era of being low key and incognito. That's not
our g that's that's not this generation. This generation wants
you to know, Nigga, I got money, I got this,
And I used to tell motherfuckers all the time, it's crazy.
You you know you put you. You listen to motherfuckers,

(15:33):
you know, these artists, these new artists, and like you said,
they bragging, my house is worth fifty yours is only
worth this. I'm flying around in G four, You flying
around in the G two. That type of shit.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Begging on the dude's jet, like, man, your jets from
nineteen seventy eight. It ain't safe. It used to be
a cargo jet, you know, And it's like, come on,
bro y'all talked about righting.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
But I'm saying, but I always say that you, as
the fan, are the one that put them in that position.
But then they brag about what I got that you'll
never have, but still stream my record.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
You get me.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
I didn't like dudes who bragged about how much they had.
But then it's the average motherfucker who's spending their money
on your album. Now you're making them feel like, how
do you feel to support that motherfucker so much when
he basically telling you, nigga, you'll never be me? You

(16:39):
get me and thank you for your twenty dollars contribution.
And now I'm this, I'm that you'll never have what
I got. I got this. You ain't worth that you
are average motherfucker. And I just could never get into
that type of a hip hop.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
You know.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
I listen to new dudes, and I listened to they
songs if it's good songs, but I've never been I
never been a fan of the braggadocious rapper you get me.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
You know what. Man, When cash Money first came in,
they did a lot of floss and I thought that
was kind of cool because it was almost comical the
way they did it, like, you know, like many fresh
to talk about I got an aquarium and a dash
my car. You know, it was just so over the top.
It was funny, almost right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
But then niggas would go out and do it. That's
the type of crass.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
And that's what I'm saying. It was like that was
like almost a part of their gimmick. You feel what
I'm saying, Like I'm the number one stunt, I'm the
stunning man, you know what I'm saying. I'm a stunt
on niggas, and that was kind of like his thing. Dog.
But then, you know, hip hop come from the ghetto, man,
and it's always gonna be represented, you know, that's what pop.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Come from the struggle from it came from, It came
from like you know, it was our voice. It was
our voice when we didn't have, you know, as a
youth in those times, the seventies and the early eighties,
you know, we wasn't we wasn't on know, you know

(18:13):
who's my role model? And I want to be like
Mike and you know and Martin Luther had a dream
and all that. Nigga, we was figuring out how to
make bread and stays and survive and run down neighborhoods
and buildings and poverty. So hip hop was the voice,

(18:35):
you get me, it was. It was the struggle music
for us. We didn't have to listen to, you know,
our parents' music, the blues and.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Shit like that.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
We had our own lane. Niggas started rapping about what
we was feeling. You know, drug dealers everywhere. Niggas don't care. Nigga.
I'm Meley Mayo with the message and you know what
I'm saying. We had songs that represented nigga. We in
the struggle right now.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, And I don't want to sound like one of
them old men is like, oh woe is me? The
little kids making this type of music. Now. It's just
that I think if people not careful, they can almost
take theyself out the loop of reality because the stuff
they talking about really ain't reality for the average person
living in this country. It's maybe only maybe one percent
of the people in this country, or maybe point five

(19:25):
percent of the country that's actually living like that. You
feel what I'm saying, And you think, don't think rappers.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Are being reeled about how the economy is affecting them
right now?

Speaker 1 (19:34):
You? Oh, no, definitely not. I think it's a rapper's job,
so to speak, to always kind of put two on
the ten because they have an image to portray. You
feel what I'm saying. Do you really think Ross is
walking around all day every day with big jewels on
and glasses on, with a perfectly lined up beard and

(19:55):
all those are photo opportunities? Definitely? You feel what I'm
I'm saying. It's like, and everybody, if they not watching
they coin, they better watch they coin right now because
the American dollar is taking the Noseedie. And I think
you know when they talk about everybody can't be living
in no fifty million dollar crib. I just know that
the economics of music don't allow for that. The way

(20:17):
streaming ISS you have to stream for you have to
stream a lot of units. And I know Rass, for example,
got a lot of outside businesses outside a rap But
even then, how many of those are just sponsorship opportunities
versus him actually owning something? And that's not me getting
this business because Rose got way more paper than I do.
But I think everybody cap and everybody not big in

(20:38):
theirs though I've never been wanting to count pockets. Yeah,
I'm not into that either, but I just think I
know his question. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Firsthand being an artists, dealing with companies and contracts. Everything
ain't what it seems. But again, you know, imagery is everything.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, a lot.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Of shit is rented, at least a lot of shit is,
like you said, favors and loans. But you know, when
you put yourself in that position forgetting that.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
You can be normal.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Now you have to keep up with the Joneses.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
They you know, that's what they say. So, yeah, the
fans want to law you to be normal. You gotta
think about this eight Like we talked about this before,
You could be normal. I want to see you normal though.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, you could be normal if you present your They
they accept j Cole normal. You don't ride around with
you know, you don't see motherfucker jumping out of Bentley
trucks and rolls Royces and the entourages and the thirty
chains on, and you can be.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Ain't living on top of the liquors through on Second
Street either. Fans don't want to. If they see him
in that light, they go clown them. You feel what
I'm saying. Yeah, but you don't have to. You don't
have to become a successful artist off the struggle. Once
you become successful, you should remember where you came from.

(22:20):
You shouldn't turn.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Around and Okay, today I'm talking about how I'm struggling
and hustling to survive. And then I go out and
because a lot of fans identify with what I'm coming from,
so I sell two three four million records. Now I
want to walk around in Fasachi shirts and big chains
on and then alienate the motherfuckers who put me in

(22:43):
this position. I'm just I'm just not cool with that shit.
You can be normal if you want to. Kendrick, Ain't
riding around with big chains on and jumping out of
motherfucking thirty rows rooces. He got a gang of money,
He's done a gang of shows. But I could be No,
you can be normal, But if you choose to put

(23:04):
yourself in the nigga, I'm finna jump off private planes
and nigga, I'm finna pull up with nigga. I got
all my every nigga that hang around. I got ten
cars in my driveway. So now I'm gonna call up
ten of my homies and I'm gonna get in each
keys and We're gonna drive all through downtown and floss
to go jump out at the Sneakers store. You know

(23:24):
what I'm saying, Like it's you. You put yourself in
that position.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
I would imagine the duck riding right here, Dut. You
know you my homeboy dog me and they need you
to come up here and sit with his dog because
I got a lot of a lot of shit to talk.
I want to talk to you about Kendrick. Gag fucking
Kendred like boy, leave me alone. No, I'm bless my home.
He Kendrick is my homie too. That's why I got
redid some work. He might fuck around, the comano dog,

(23:49):
he might fuck around to come Dut.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
That type of dude, you you better off action Michael
Jackson to pull up.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
I don't know, Michael, no mother there.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah, but niggas get it. Certain niggas get certain statuses.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Aday.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Like I said, sometimes, you know what, sometimes you can
put yourself. You can become something to where it don't
even allow me to do that anymore.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Well, no, I will tell you this. That's what I
was gonna say. Dut if he had the opportune time,
he would do it. But I don't think he could
come over here and do it. No, so much security.
You probably have to have so much different stuff in places.
He's a mega superstar. Now, Yeah, you gotta pull up
like the president. You gotta have an entourage, and you
gotta have security, and niggas gotta check the street out

(24:37):
on top of the buildings and all that shit. So
sometimes when you become so big, uh, it doesn't allow
you to do the normal ship. But still you can
still be I'm my nigga is still normal. A lot
of people might think he's you know, different, but to me,

(24:59):
he's annoy normal nigga. He's not the one who feels
like I got to impress the public.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Now you get me, now, I have to go out
and pull up in the two million dollar car because
I put myself in that position.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Why because I started rapping about the shit.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Because I started telling niggas, Nigga, I'm bringing in twenty
kilos and nigga, I'm the man, and nigga, I'm having
lunch in Paris, and then WOOTI wom now I expect it.
I better not see your motherfucking ass pulling up in
the Honda Civic and shit like that, because you put
yourself in that position. If you want to be normal,

(25:44):
you can be normal.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Who always did a good job of keeping stuff normal. Dog.
I would see you different places at your height. I
wouldn't ever since necessarily just run up to you and
talk to you all the time, but I would see
you places right. I would also see Warrens in regular
places a long you know, around like at the grocery
store out right. I used to bump in him. I
think he might have been living in that little community

(26:05):
in Lakewood at that time. I would always see him
in the grocery store because I was I lived right
around the corner from there, so I would always bump
into him, and I think that's why he got the
love in the community that he did get because he
was accessible. Yes, when he was a mega superstar, that's
when Regulator was out.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
You know what I mean, Like people be surprised, Like
they'll see me in the in the in the grocery store,
or they'll see me at the cleaners or some regular
shit like you really in the like okay, Like I
had to tell him, motherfucker the other day, how I'm

(26:43):
a get ship. Then I don't have no motherfucker going
to the store shopping for me. Most people buying and
buying my cases of water and juices, and most people
don't bro like and mother fucker like you be cooking,
I'm like, fuck, is my kid gonna eat if I
don't cook? Like I'm a normal person outside of what

(27:06):
you might go on. Man, this nigga been in movies
and he got records, He been on a video game
and on. Outside of that, I tried to stay grounded
and normal. It can fuck with you if you've come
from nothing and all of a sudden, you know, a
nigga handing you a check for a million dollars and

(27:26):
you know, and you're able to do you the all shit.
Now I can go to the mall right now and
buy twenty pair of shoes, or I can go buy
my mama a car, or Nigga, we could go. We'd
go sit down at the fancy restaurant and spend a
thousand two.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
The conception is something else, Like I remember when Kendrick's
little sister had a birthday and I guess he brought
her a Nissan or something. Everybody in the comment section
was like, Oh, you such a bad brother. You didn't
go out and buy her a Bentley. You didn't go out.
It's like, that's a nice present. You know, a girl
grades wait in high school, get a Nize.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yes, hell, your sister problems as a normal, as a normal,
as a normal motherfucker. A person's come up and like here,
here's a motherfucking Honda, or here's a knee sign, or
here's a hell.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, least I looked those pretty decent calls.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Ran new and nigg I can get from A to
B and and still don't have to worry about you
know what I'm saying, asking motherfuckers for rides or catching
public transportation. That that's but see, I can see that
as a motherfucker wanting to.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Let me I gotta keep you grounded.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
You get me, because if I start stepping out of
the element, then everything gonna be fucked. Next thing, you know,
I'm a bending ran through one hundred million dollars on
crazy shit.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
You have to be really because you have to understand
from the fans standpoint, they think everybody got making money,
especially and you know what's funny, the podcast stuff started
getting that same category. I pretty much know what everybody
getting right, and some of these numbers just be just
way out there, just because there's no way for them

(29:05):
companies to recoup that money. How they gonna have to
sell a gang. It would have to be ads running
there dropping every two minutes. You feel what I mean,
you would have reads dropping every two minutes. It just
don't work like that. But to the fans, they believe
everything that they hear. So I get people, I get
certain family members tell me, why don't you buy you
a new car? When you gonna buy you a new car?

(29:26):
It don't matter now, it don't matter a that my
kid is driving whatever they driving, and my wife's driving
whatever she's driving. They see me in my truck and
be like, oh, he need to go buy him?

Speaker 3 (29:39):
But why should I because they feel like.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Like, why do I have to buy a new cardinal piece?

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Because you're putting yourself in a celebrity category, and now
that you're a celebrity, you can't be normal. You can't
be normal, you can't be just you know, you're the
Gangster Chronicles dude, So why would you you want to
be riding around in the old truck when you can
go rent you a Benz or a BMW or lease

(30:05):
you a fancy you know car, because that's the image
that people feel you're supposed to represent.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Don't you think it's just more safer to be a homeowner,
to be a guy that owns property, to be a
guy to own other little ancillary businesses and stuff. That's
not what you can think that's more mature, because the
thing is.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
But it's most likely our people though you get me.
You can say that about you know, not to say
all black people don't have that train of thought, but
at some particular age brackets, it's like, no, nigga, what
do you mean.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Buy a home and stocks and all that shit. You know.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Now, some people are trying to you know, yeah, that's
the smart thing to do, whatever, but come on, the
typical motherfucker, eighteen to thirty. You get it, motherfucker, you're
supposed to live, nigga. Where's the where's the Louis Vatanes
and the bags?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
You better think about it though, Like this, I'm pretty
sure me and you was talking earlier. You don't have
every car possible. I done drove five fifties. Dog, I've
had the five fifties. I've had to escalate with the
thirty thousand dollars kits on them. Dog. Of course you can't.
You can't resist sometimes. I've had all that stuff, you

(31:21):
know where all that stuff is now dog gone because
it wasn't worth It wasn't worth it. Like once you
get to the economics of this stuff. You ever notice
when you trade a car in man, you'd be like, man,
I think, damn one hundred thousand for that, man, I
only got twenty thousand dollars back for It's just the economically,
it don't make sense.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
And I think that just comes with maturity. Like they say,
if it's nothing, if you got it. But I think
once you get a certain age, you start filling uh
to be conservative and to be smart. It's probably a

(32:06):
better way of thinking.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, we gotta be conservative because the thing is one
thing is about a dog father time is undefeated.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
And like I said, I don't I don't like to
judge motherfuckers for their choices because I was in the
same position. You get me, Like I said, when you
come out of struggling in poverty and you get your
first opportunity to make some money, yeah you got. And
you and you a young man or young female, and

(32:35):
you know, you nineteen twenty twenty one years old, and
the motherfucker come hand you a couple one hundred thousand.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Of course, you know.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
If you haven't already had the teachings and the trainings
of economics and how to manage money and the long run.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
You get me.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Let's think twenty years down the road of what's gonna be,
and so you think different You would think differently probably,
But I tell you there's not too many of us
at nineteen twenty years old, coming up out of the
hood who had economic training other than selling dope.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
You feel me tell you something, I'm pretty sure over
your career, over the course of your career, you don't
make ms. I'm pretty sure, right, I don't made a
nice chunk of money too. Man. But I really just
set up and thought one day, we're half the stuff
I don't bought is at right now? Like I thought
about it right because I'm like, man, I had a car,
I had a little rider. I was working on where's

(33:36):
that because you just think about it, like, man, a
lot of shit? You know, where's my car? Had dirt,
dirt bikes and jet skis. You don't know where none
of this stuff is at. No jewelry and boats and jurry.
And I was thinking about some watches I had, right,
I had these watches, man, And I don't know. I
just came off of tour. We just came back from

(33:56):
England and I went downtown and I bought four watch is.
I actually bought one for my DJ and I got
one for free. You know, I used to go be
able to go places get stuff for free. And these
watches was like they was buzz downs though they was
at minimum fifteen bands to twenty bands, right. I remember.
I wound up keeping one of them because I got

(34:16):
at the while to where I didn't like that gaudy shit.
You know that shit is just too big and too bright.
You know, you after a while you reach a place
I think when you hit your thirties, you start thinking
like that, like, man, do I really want to wear
all this bullshit? You know what I mean? So do
you think if you had.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
A couple of million dollars in the bank at this time,
at what you still be on? You know, I need
to go get me a Cuban diamond and crusted. I
need to go get me some kind of fancy watch.
Do you feel like you have to keep up with
the image of what hip hop is right now?

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Probably not, man, because I'm into different stuff right now,
and I think people we'll do that sometimes just to
feel good about yourself, because you do come from a
place to where at one time you might have got
laughed at for not having the coolest shoes, you know
what I'm saying. Definitely halfing this. So I think that's
why Evaness has grown black man. I noticed your shoe
game is always nice. My shoe game, I feel is pretty.

(35:16):
I gotta shoes, you know what I mean. And I
think that's one of the things that not being able
to get that stuff when I was little, because we
all want them Jordans when we.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Was kids, you feel me, and that the crazy shit
is when the last time you bought some Jordans.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
That's crazy, though, You get me, how.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
We fiend for shit as youngins got to have it.
You get me, and at your age right now, could
you even tell yourself you get me. I could buy
me some regular shoes.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Oh yeah, I'm cool with regular.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Buy me some regular comfortable Nikes or some regular like.
I couldn't tell you the last time I went in
the store and spent two hundred dollars on a pair
of Jordans.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Man, I'm gonna tell you, though. We get so much
stuff like now, especially like clothes and stuff for free. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
I get niggasent all the time. I get so much
stuff for free every time. Every time you see me
wearing something, it's probably something somebody thene gave me.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah. You know. One of the things is I always
tell people I didn't start smoking weed till I got fifty.
I turned fifty right because I found there was a
better alternative for certain stuff that your body us, you know,
especially when we start getting them old war injuries, old
football injuries and stuff, and he's going bad and stuff.
I just found a weed help a little bit more.
I don't I'm not into taking pills, you know what
I mean. So one of the things I thought about

(36:36):
one day, I was looking for this watch, right and
I was like, man, where's my watch at? You know,
because I haven't had in a long time. And I
thought about it. I said, Man, I don't lost like fight,
like eighty thousand dollars in watches. Dog just don't know
where they at. Might have left them somewhere, might have
been left in the hotel, somewhere, might have got snow.
You just don't know because you don't care if that
stuff is not important. I tell you right now, if

(36:59):
I had a up a million dollars, bro, I would
really just make sure that my future was straight that
I would, you know, I would have, you know, the money,
definitely in the interest being an account. Probably wouldn't invest
in nothing that was too risky. I believe in low
risk stuff right now. You know, I'm not into just
going out blowing money, but I do believe in investing money.

(37:21):
I do think that in order to be a good
stewart with money, you have to let it grow somehow, right,
you know. But that don't mean investing in risky stuff.
You know, I would for sure be shooting more movies.
Now we would have your TV series going. You feel
what I'm saying, It would be just different stuff I
would be thinking about doing. Man, that's my biggest fear

(37:41):
because I went broke before Dog. I remember, I wouldn't
broke before it. Shout out to the homie Gun, I
ain't you know, I ain't never told nobody this Dog
the last the one time I went broke, Dog was
messing with that football league. Dog messing with the football league.
And I put a lot of money in there. When
you got parents that don't pay, you know who bailed

(38:01):
us out, Dog the homie top Dog from Top Dog Entertainment.
Man Top gave me the money man finish the season,
up the year and everything.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Because football shit is costly, especially when you running a
youth organization. You can get up into the tens and
twenty thousands with insurances and.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Then the fifties while you're playing. If you got teams
of people who's ain't paying, Dog.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
You know you're gonna have a couple of kids that
can't pay. You know, wherever you gotta wherever you want
to play your games at on the weekends, you gotta
pay for the high school. You gotta pay for the reps.
You gotta pay for insurance, so it can get costly.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Shoot, I went, yeah, yeah, top dog dude, so from
top TD bailed.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Me out though, and to be passionate about so, yeah,
you gonna uh, you're gonna put your foot in that
ship and yeah, sometimes your investment can go haywire.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
And that's where you know where your friends is at.
Dog definitely, because I'm gonna tell you, I remember it
was a time dog to where I just got fired
from the publish all this stuff. It hit me all
the same time I had the football league. Usually it
usually happens I lost my job at the publishing company. Man,
me and Glasses was sitting in my living room, Dog
and I didn't know I was down on my last
like fifteen hundred dollars. Dog, I said, Dog, I don't

(39:24):
know what I'm gonna do. He said, Man, he said,
because it's gonna be all right. And I remember the
next day because he was, you know, talking about his stuff.
The next day, Dog, I think the homie had like
send me like fifteen thousand dollars. And that's between top
and Glasses. That's how I kind of got through the
little stuff. And that just made me in glasses mind

(39:45):
just like this because he didn't have to do that.
He pretty he didn't have like that. He was a
dude that just got it. You know, he had a deal. Now.
I'm pretty sure he took that money out of his little.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Budget, except I'm sure the struggle is. That's why I
said the struggle is really you know, it can present
itself in unfortunate times, man, and it always comes like that.
I always say that when something fuck up, then something
else is finna fuck up before it get better. You know,

(40:16):
for sure, you just have to be able to withstand
uh them tough times.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
And I think that's where.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Knowing how to deal with poverty, you know, coming from
them type of situations, uh fucking food stamps and low
income and you know, projects in rough neighborhoods, you kind
of learn how to get that tough skin.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Ain't you scared to go back to that door dog?
And I'm not scared to go back to I just
think I've done too much stuff to escape there.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
You know, when you go from you know, when you
go from being at the height, you know, and you know,
you you're living good and you're driving nice cars and
you're able to go out and have a nice meal
and you know, provide for your kids. And then it's

(41:15):
just like with business would work sometime. Uh you might
get let go your job, you might get fired. You
have to be able to know how to uh get
through tough times.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
You gotta learn how to start cutting back. And and
I think if you've been a person in struggle before,
you appreciate when you're able to uh get back into
a sustainable situation. Uh, you learn how to not do
shit or no, I ain't doing that, or I ain't

(41:58):
buying that ship, or I ain't I don't need that,
or you know, you start really uh considering you know,
the loan haul.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
That's where I'm at today. You get me. And that's
why if you notice with me and you talk my
conversations as always toward the future.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah gotta do you know, you know, coming like I said,
coming from you know, six bedroom houses and boats and
fancy cars and you know, driving hundred thousand dollars cars
around and you like you said, they got low riders
and dirt bikes and everything that a motherfucker felt that

(42:40):
he needed to be sustainable coming from poverty, you get me, Uh.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Don't get me wrong. I ain't broke now, nothing like that.
But I just know what real money is. Oh no,
you know you you.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Right about now, you broke if you ain't got a
million dollars exactly.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
So that's what I'm saying. Like I'm real, regular people.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Uh people feel to judge you on uh, on your
income status. You know, as far as being in that
type of position. We are in the position of limelight
and celebrity, so we supposed to uh, you know, we're
supposed to be billionaires. You give me nigga. You niggas

(43:23):
got a podcast, nigga. H you did movies and records.
Everything ain't what it's cracked up to be. Like you said,
I know, I know contracts, and I know numbers, and
I know real shit and reality is everything ain't what
it seems.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Everything special and stuff ain't what it seems. And you
know what, man, I'm gonna tell you. The cash that
got money. Anybody in hip hop that's really getting to
a bag, it's the external stuff that's outside of music
is getting them that. It may be that trucking company
that they own on the side, the shoe endorsement that

(43:57):
they have. It may be the touring they may have
going the road five times a month, six times a month,
just to maintain their lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Yeah, because it's record sale shit, and this record shit
ain't it?

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Ain't it?

Speaker 3 (44:09):
You know you got a thousand, you got a billion
rappers today because it's looked at as the quick come up.
You get me, but you count another niggas money and
you're end up finding out that this road ain't as
lucrative as you think it it is.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
You get me. So you think Kendrick on the clock
right now, whether it.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Was a or not, I haven't really I haven't really
listened to what's the song push Ups?

Speaker 1 (44:48):
I heard.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
All I heard was him referencing Top and that that's
really what. That's all it really got to me on
you know what man and I think and I don't.
I don't like ship like that.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
I don't like it. I don't like it.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
It's it could turn from from a from a friendly
banter disc into some serious uh to some serious uh
situations because we you know, we know Kendrick and we
know Top and the situations and you know, with with
the label or whatever, and so I don't like to

(45:28):
throw like if we're gonna battle nigga, then me and
you gonna battle.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
But you remember what I said last week. I said
Drake was what I said, he was a devil, right,
And I said, he does stuff like that. Drake is
the type of dude that if he got a problem
with you, he's going search. He's gonna compliment your mama
while you're doing it, just to just to cause a
little dissension in your household. You feel what I mean
to where you gonna be lack mama, what you're doing
taking sides with that nigga. You feel what I'm saying.

(45:53):
He's that type of dude. He's he's that type of cat.
And I don't but you have to again, and.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
I particularly myself, wouldn't you know, if I'm gonna get
at you, I'm gonna get at you. I don't feel
like I'm gonna have to go uh digging in that
ditch to justify my get back.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
But that's just me. You figure Drake could do the
same thing when he was going at it would meet Meal,
he said. I rode down the street bumping the ad
and a our Ad was cool with meet Meal at
the time, but that gave um aar Abs some juice
in the city. So he started automatically siding up with Drake.
Over I mentioned my name, I'm gonna slide up under him.
Now you feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
I mean, but you know, all is fair when in
war you get me like.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
The fact that he brought Top's name up into it,
because you know, the one thing I want to say
is man. Like I said earlier, I had the pleasure
of being around him though, real early when they were
developing that stuff. I remember when par six would even
playing them their songs. Jay Rocker had to deal with
with Warner brothers. They wouldn't even messing with them like that, right,
And I remember Top grinding Dog like his grind was relentless. Dog.

(47:11):
It was a lot of times dog to wear them
dudes just pretty much jumped on his back, Dog, and
he thugged his way through that stuff. You know what
I mean. Everything they definitely got they deserved. They worked
hard for that dog. It wasn't easy dog, and I'm
talking about it was a good damn near a decade
of struggle. Dog. Before all that stuff even saw the surface,
you know what I mean. I saw them little dudes

(47:31):
go from like little kids, Dog back there eating them
chicken two men. You feel what I'm saying. So it's
like what they've achieved together was phenomenal. You can't do nothing.
You almost a hater if you don't like that story.
You feel what I'm saying. The homies from the hood
actually make it big, you know what I mean. Niggas
try to do this music stuff and then don't succeed, mayeh.

(47:55):
Like I said, there is no there's no.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Fairness. Uh, there's no cordial you know when it comes
to dissing or disc records. Uh, it's always been accepted
in hip hop, whether it go from a a funny

(48:23):
comedic uh disc record, we're just going back at each other,
you know, or it gets to the point where niggas
are shooting at each other. It's always been here and
hip hop, it's always been here as far as different

(48:44):
sides and different neighborhoods and you know East Side against
the West Side or or Queens against Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Or all that.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
You know what I'm saying, it's it's always been there.
And that's like I said before before a rap uh nigga.
We associated with high schools, our football team from this
side of the block, don't like your football team. We
might get into some fights after the game, or it's
just it's it's not liking the motherfucker has always been here. Uh,

(49:21):
the way you deal with it. Some people, you know,
say they shit and go away peacefully. Like I said,
some niggas end up shooting at each other and somebody
get hurt.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
I guess it's it's just the way you deal with it.
I guess you know what. I was talking with D
one online earlier and he was talking about how beef
is not good for hip hop. Somebody could wind up
get hurt. I had to ask him. I said, Bro,
when have you ever seen two artists actually go at it?
I'm talking about now. You may see Entourage's clash if anything,

(49:53):
but you go very rarely see the two main artists,
two main artists go at it like even when And
he said, still, come on, you know too much about
hip hop to say. I said, bro, honestly answer that.
Outside of you know the Wu Tang clean text up
Joe Budens at one time, you might have little TIFFs
he in there. You know, you had the fifty and

(50:15):
John Rudge stuff. But I don't think it was John
Rudis stab fifty. You feel what I'm saying, right, It
was an entourage. It is always gonna be the entourage's class.
It ain't gonna never be the Raptors. Dog, Kendrick and
Drake got way too much paper. You think they will
ever be around each other's a comference. There's too many
buffers in between them.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Yeah, But like like you said, the beef ha come
between the entourages the disc records to just go to
the artists, you feel.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
That's what I'm saying, Dog, It's like, ain't nobody sitting
up here two rich people? You think you out there
boxing somebody.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
I mean, but that's like what I said, If it
comes down to just beef, then let's just say fuck
the records and we might as well schedule a fight
or a hookup and let's get it on. Because we
hate each other that much. It's deep than just It's
deeper than just the motherfucking words on paper. We literally

(51:07):
got a genuine like, fuck your neighborhood, Fuck my neighborhood, nigga,
we got a beef. Fuck this rap ship.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Like, let me ask you this, bro. You know, Kendrick
ain't the biggest cat in the world and Drake got
just got a little size on him. If they was
getting scrap, who do you think of win that scratch?
It wouldn't happen.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
You might as well say Trump and Biden gonna get
in the ring and fight it out. It don't happen
with people like that said. It don't happen like that.
You just you just you're just stirring up the pot
right now. You like to stir up pots for a minute.
You like to do that, you know, damn well, that's
the biggest hypothetical question you could ever.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Don't matter. So you.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
As a billion dollar nigga, you find to go fight
the owner of xon or you feel you get me
when you you you know what I'm saying, because you
putting him in that same category. He's a millionaire, rich
motherfucker who's got statuses and Nobel peace prizes.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
You ain't got gonna know he got a politit pride,
he don't hilde he.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Got no bail, peace prizes and ship And you go
get a nigga fitted Like I said, your bodies will
call up Trump and bided, like, nigga, what your niggas
want to fucking debate for old Chattel seven for won't
you niggas just go to Vegacy, get the rig and
see which one of you old niggas can knock each
other out and whoever it becomes the president fucking.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
You know, Trump will beat Biden's Trump. I see Trump.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Talking washed this nigga still man, This nigga still to
get your ass and a hot pot of fucking gub
ball with his ship.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Gotta beat Drake. Drake seemed like the type of dude
that like the seword fight or something. What's that ship
would have had a.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Sewerd nigga said he wants to he want to be,
he wanted to want the funnies and ship on the fence.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Dude takes six places.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Like I said, is it's it's good hypothetical banter for
like I said, hip hop people. People are enjoying it because,
like I said, it's too it's too big artists. It
ain't like it's the two niggas from around the corner
and ship who you know, uh dissing each other or whatever.

(53:31):
It's two major artists, and I think people just are
intrigued with, uh, these niggas taking that route. People say
it's it's it's it's it's needed in hip hop. It
keeps it keeps the friendly competition up. You know, if

(53:52):
niggas feel like I'm the greatest, then hey, ain't nothing
wrong with it.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Man, You but you know what the dog the thing is.
I said, I think Ross got the best record so far.
I don't know if you've been paying attention like that.
I haven't listened. He got a record out to Yeah, yeah,
Ross record hard Buddy too. Yeah. So I don't, like
I said, I don't know what it's for.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Drakes record ain't bad. Oh man, you see the I
mean too too. I mean a year ago they was
making records and videos together.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
I don't, I don't. I don't understand the I don't.
I don't.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
I don't understand what happened. Really, I don't it abstuitely
be You know what, man, this whole thing could definitely
be the biggest pup listening because them, them is two
niggas that got a thousand records together. And then all
of a sudden, you calling him white boy, and he
calling you your mansion is fake, and you leash your

(54:52):
plane and and when other people gotta needed, they got
to peel the fucking rapper off and all that. I
don't want staying what the banter is. Like I said
last that's what he said about Roster. He said, you
gotta peel that sticker off when when other people need
to rid the plane.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Well, these niggas a motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
But I'm just saying it's it's you don't hear anything
to the level of I'm getting on the plane and
headed to Miami, nigga, and we can get them up
when I see.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
If you're a rapper today, you can't never develop. You
know how, When we was in the industry, we were young,
we developed close relationships that will never be broken. Nowadays,
these niggas can't trust each other because they find out
because I don't understand. I've been friends with Premiere and
Scarface and Spice and a gang of niggas for thirty
years and never had an issue. I'm gonna put a
nigga on a record today and then three months from

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now diss him on the record because what what happened?
What happened?

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Like what y'all can't have a phone call and talk
about what happened. That's what I'm saying. You niggas was
just on songs and videos together, a gang of them.
You niggas got a gang of songs together.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Ross said that you know what's the what's the boy's
name on the other rapper. They said that Drake put
a ceasing desistant on French Montana's record. He had a
record with French Montana. M I guess Drake put a
cease and desist on.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
It or whatever because you didn't do what pay me
or you didn't clear it. Yeah, okay, that's business. Nigga
ain't no personal vendetta. But Rose took it personal. He says, Ah,
why you take it personal? When are you French Montana?
Is it your record? Why did you? Why did you
this Ross's artist? I guess okay, I didn't. Y'all didn't,

(56:35):
so what you expect me to be friendly on everybody's
fucking shit? And I'm a businessman, y'all using my ship.
I need to get paid, especially if it's a nigga.
I don't fuck with Really, I fuck with you. That
don't mean I fuck with that nigga.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Yeah, you got a point.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
It don't mean I fuck with me and you cool.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
I don't like this nigga.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
I don't like this nigga who looked like me. His
nigga trying to beat me. He light skinned, did like me.
He trying to have little SINGI songs like me. I
don't like this nigga, So now I don't want to
clear it. I need my business handle. You can't get
mad at the nigga and turn around and go okay,
fuck you. You didn't clear the shit. So now I'm
gonna join the disc bandwagon. That ain't that ain't business.

(57:22):
That's like, that's like some hurt. That's like some butt
hurt shit like I'm hurt. You didn't want to get
on the record, man, I don't you know what.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
I don't know. Man, it might have been more than that,
but ros's going on. That's why I said, we don't know.
Even talked about bird Man. He said, you let bird
Man get four max and get full clothed ross. Motherfucker
don't shit funny as hell though, And like I said,
you who knows what? I don't know? You know?

Speaker 3 (57:49):
But is it to the Is it to the point,
like I said, because I know how niggas get down
over here, and when niggas got beef, nigga, you liable
to catch it. Bullet shit, you was about to catch
a bullet hole through your window or some ship like that.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
We got beef.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
We beef over here because we have the cripping blood
aspect when we beef.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Okay, all that.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Shit, you talking foreclosures and you're this fake and you're
a white boy and all that shit. Are you ready
to jump on the plane and get them up? Is
it that serious? If it ain't, man, get this motherfucking
ship up out of here.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Well, Roth said, when you see me, if you if
you got a problem with it, when you see.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Me, chicken, how you're gonna have ten niggas with you
and I'm gonna have twenty. Like I said, let's be
let's be some real men. You gotta issue nigga. Let's
get them up. If you want to be, if you
want to be, if you want to be rapping and
dissing for streams, then okay, just keep it, just keep
it real. We're gonna make a couple of records. We're

(58:54):
gonna make a couple of records. We're gonna talk shit
about each other, and then we all gonna sit back
and pop bottles. Are aces of spades while the whole
fucking country streams, all this shit and all the money
is going in our pockets.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
You get We gotta find angles to this shit. We
gotta find.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Angles to this ship. So if I start dissing you
and you start dissing me, what's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Everybody's gonna want to hear this shit.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Right, They're gonna be anticipating the records or I can't
wait till that new disc record come out. I can't
wait till Ross's response come out. I can't wait till
Drake's response come out. And all the while they waiting,
everybody chinging up, chining up, chining up. So I don't know,
Like I said, we come from we come from beefing.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
You get me.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
We come from beefing with me and quick Hat. That
was beefing.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
You get me. What what Cube and Easy in them
had that was beefing? You get me.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
It's like, nigga, fuck this rap shit. If I catch
you in the streets, nigga, were finna get down?

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Yeah, hope, you know what, that's the last thing. But
they're not finna. They're not finna do that. Yeah, I
don't think they're not finna do that. That's why I
said this is friendly banter. Nigga, I'm gonna say something
about you, You're gonna say something about me, and then
three four months from now, we're gonna come together and
sit down and have a glass of champagne and go
we're cool. Now. Yeah, that's pretty much. But it was

(01:00:24):
sop upper. Did you see this stuff that don't happen
to the NBA? Young boy dog. He's in some serious
trouble man, No, man, I haven't been keeping up with Yeah,
they got him man in Utah of all places for
larger skill prescription fraud. Well he he.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
He uh. When he got released, one of his conditions
was that he go to Utah because his manager was like,
you know, we need to keep him out of trouble
and all this kind of crazy shit. So the condition
that they let him out, what if not to be mistaken,
is why they went to Utah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Well, let me read this.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
There ain't got no hood, you know, if he doesn't
have any type of involvement in it's Utah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Yeah, let me you talk out some hood. Motherfucker's right, but.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
He's not affiliated what like he was in Baton Rouge
in his spots.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Well, he's steal into something note because check this out.
This is what happened. A rapper who is serving house
arrests in Utah was arrested for his alleged involvement in
a large scale prescriptions fraud ring in Cash County, NBA.
Young boy who's real name is Contrail Deshaun Gordon, was
booked Tuesday and faces sixty three charges. The alleged defenses

(01:01:39):
are a possession of a dangerous weapon by a restricted person,
second degree failing, the one count, pattering enough unlawful activity,
second degree failing me one count identity fraud, third degree
failing the twenty counts forgery, third degree failing the twenty
counts procuring attempting to procure a drug prescription Class A misdemeanor,
twenty counts, Possession of controlled substance Class eight misdemeanor one count.

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According to the arrest report, the twenty four year old
Golden was part of a scheme to fraugarly obtained prometheesene
with codeine, which, according to the National Library of Medicine,
is mixed with sprite and or alcohol to make It's
nothing new.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
He's in Utah and they then probably ran out of
the lean and they need they need to procure some
more well, so they.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Say they got him. The police say Gardon and many
other individuals who were not named in the documents tried
to obtain the prescribed cost suppressant for multiple pharmacies in
Cash County. According to police, Gaudon called in a prescription
supposedly for a seventy four year old woman to a
pharmacy in him in September. They said he claimed to
be a physician in the Provo area using an actual

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valid DEA number NPI number, another identification for the real position.
The pharmacists noticed that the phone number did not match
the number of said doctor this clinic, so they called
the doctor directly. The doctor said he did not write
a prescription for a woman by her name, and added
that this sort of thing happened several times a day.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Yeah, somebody working in the doctor's office then slid the
negative numbers so he can call in and and and order,
you know how. The doctor or called into the pharmacy
and be like, yeah, I'm calling in the calling a
prescription for They do it all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
And they said, so that's what he did, Yeah, and
he's he was arrested by It doesn't say all. They
don't say if he was a secret service. So he's
gonna do some time on this man, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Because well he's he's had, he's been having long, extensive
cases and situations.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
He already fighting the federal guns. Jar. My dude is
one of those.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
You know, you always have one of those dudes who
come out the neighborhood who's just he just can't get right.
You feel me, always in trouble, always the police. I
really don't care about it. And when you take a
dude like that and you put a gang of money

(01:04:20):
in his hand and a gang of motherfuckers, they really
become uncontrollable. It's gonna take a while probably for him
to mature out of the out of the state that he's.
Like I said, man, when you come from that walk
of life, man, it's hard. And when you put shit

(01:04:40):
come on. My nigga's young. My nigga got money, he
got fans up the ass that support his music, and
he's just reckless. And then when you're able to get
away with shit doing reckless shit, it don't make you
get any better.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
It just makes you it worse.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Until he's able to until he's able to understand you
get me until he's able to understand the position he's
in and that you got to grow up, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
This is crazy, and these girls go telling them because
check this out. They said that similar incidents occurred to
other pharmacies in Cash County, and police said two women
picked up the prescribed drugs during one instance they were
taking and detained as part of the investigation and later
arrested for their alleged involvement in the prescription fraud ring.
The Cash County Sheriff's Office said the vehicle the woman

(01:05:34):
arrived then to pick up the drugs was registered to Golden.
That's the NB A young boy then later his business
manager contacted the Sheriff's office about getting the vehicle out
of Empound. The officer asked us to speak the regular
to Golden. While speaking to gold And the arresting officer
said he heard someone possibly golf and suggests asking about
the prescriptions that they picked up. So he wasn't tripping

(01:05:55):
on the bras he was worried about that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
I need that lane flying the girls him to Utah.
They coming to kick it his girlfriends or whatever they are,
and they probably like, yeah, let's get these let's get
these prescriptions. Let's get these prescriptions somebody. Like I said,
I mean, that's you know what he's getting put on
blast because he's NBA young boy. But niggas do that

(01:06:20):
ship all day. And even if they they getting fake scripts,
they get man niggas is. Niggas is doing lean like
it ain't ship.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Man. I'm gonna tell you, bro, it's a drug epidemic
right now. Hip hop with that lean, with that lean dog,
with all that stuff. Man, it's pretty much heroin, bro.
All of these kids are on heroind I don't care
what they call. I don't care if they're taking an
appeal formed dog. I don't care if they However, they're
doing this all heroin dog. So it's it's.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
Like I said, we it's kind of you know, fucked
up when you have the vices of influence. I mean,
because we used to do it. You're telling nigga, hey,
get you some gin and juice. We're telling nigga pick
up a foldy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
When I get it with that. Like I said, it's
it's our generation. Though this is not our generation. They're
different than us. Forty ounces and fucking you know, weed,
smoke nor your Your favorite rapper is telling you the
pop a percocet. Your favorite rapper is telling you that

(01:07:30):
we sip and lean. Your favorite rapper is telling you,
all my bitches do coke.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
You get me.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
My nigga right now is telling you on the popular
song right now with with with k Dot, all my
bitches do coke. You get me. I'm trying to let
you know, nigga, is it's okay if you want to
fuck with me, you want to be one of my
holes or my bitches A nigga, this is all my

(01:08:01):
bitches do dope, all of them. I might even pop
a perkoset or whatever the shit they do.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
You get me. It's it's their generation.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
That's why we got so many youngsters dying, you know,
popping pills. You know, we got the youngsters dying off
of the lean, you know, all of it. Because again,
your favorite rapper is telling you it's okay if you
want to do some coke, all my bitches do it.
It's crazy that shit that's supposed to tell you right now,

(01:08:33):
that's the it's it's accepted, it's popular. Come on, man,
I'm I'm your favorite. You damn sure. I ain't looking
at me bad are you You ain't You ain't nowhere going, man,
This motherfucker telling you to do some dope. He telling
you if you want to belong to the anade, you

(01:08:53):
gonna pop you a peal or snort you something.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Because that's the way I like my bitches. I like
them high and like man like what.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
I like them high and zonked out. That's the only
way they gonna be able to stab my motherfucking ass
if I get them, if I get them high up
out of existence.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
On that note, we're about to get up out of here, man.
But we in Atlanta next week like Effect Podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Conference, and you say, all my bitches due coke, all
my bitches due to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
We're gonna be out there and ladies out there and
here they performed that song live like ladies.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
You ain't got to do no dope. You ain't got
to do no coke. You fine, be natural, you know,
be beautiful. You we call you a cluckhead if you
do it dope.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Again. We'll be at the Black Effect Podcast special next week.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
But what we call what we call the nigger back
in the days that did dope, I don't get up.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
A cluck there's a cluck these dudes.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Let these niggas fuck you up and tell you that
that ship is cool. We look at your ass like
you're a goddamn idiot. Clucker back you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
That ship ain't here, that ship is not It wouldn't
definitely wasn't cool doing that cocaine. You would get bagged.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Trying to make being a cluckhead cool and ship to
he's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
He wanted this dope so bad, jail, he said, I
need my lean.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
And I need my lead, and I need all my
bitches zunked out. I just need him sitting in the
corner like this when I come home.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Yo, shake us out. Next week if you're in Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
Area, Yeah, we're in at yl Man Holland.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Yip. You know, shoot up to the festival and all that.
We'll be out there, pull up bonus and were gone.
That's sixty minutes, bron.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
That nig said, all my bitches, all my bitches doigga.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Well. That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.
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