October 28, 2022 • 35 mins
In this ep we sit down with the homies from the Connected Experience and ask if Kanye was brought by the republicans, we also discuss free speech and Fat Joe.
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Welcome to another episode of the Gangster Chronicles podcast. To night,
I got some very special guests all the way from Inster, Michigan.
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My homeboys from the Connected Experience. What's that having the fellas?
What's going on? What's going on? I got my boy
Santoine and Antoine. You know what I'm saying, Cash more
the Michigan some fresh cash. You know, it's been a
lot of stuff going on the past few weeks, man,
you know the whole Kanye West stuff. Now you got
cats um actually Jewish rappers making disc records towards Kanye.
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The one thing I was talking about with Cam earlier
today was this. We were talking about freedom of speech.
And as you know, Cam heat from the nation, so
he got his thoughts on certain things, right. But one
thing we thought about we talked about is do you
think we're in an era of censorship right now? Yeah?
It's uh, selective censorship is what it is. It's not
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just censorship is selected. So it's just the right people
feel like you need to be censored, then you'll be censored.
So it's just really selective. Though. Yeah, I can agree
with that because everybody ain't being censored. But if if
you're not going on with what they say and whoever
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you think they is, then they go sense to you.
That could be politically, that could be entertainment wise, that
could be talking about people when they come to sports.
If you're not saying that, what we want you to say,
and what they agree with, they're gonna shut you down. Bro.
You know what, I've got to agree with you guys, man,
because see one thing about it this for me and Cam,
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this is about telling Cam. You know, of course, if
we hear a guy from the Arian Nation or a
white supremacist whatever talking about black people, right, you know
that's kind of um, you know, it could piss you
off whatever, But I say, just don't listen to him.
But that white supremacist has the right the state's opinion,
just like the Brothers down for Black Lives Matter, just
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like the Brothers down for whatever. It's like the Black
Panthers had a certain right freedom of speech. I think
the moment we start trying to just sensor people, man,
we hit it towards the things to slope and not
assueing that the brands is running everything. The brands have
the power to pretty much set somebody down because if
they stop supporting your piece of content and your show,
whatever you've got going on, you pretty much asked do
this for free. Yeah, And that's the problem, uh, that
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we're facing, and that we've always been facing. It's people
only want freedom of speech for what they want to
say I'm a type of person. I want to hear
the opposition because I'm still learning and maybe what they're
saying is relatable and understandable, but I will get abundant
better understand than anyway. I can't just think everything that
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I think, right, let me hear somebody who oppose my
thought process. Let me understand what they're saying, because for
them to think like that and for me to think
like this, it's still can always be a common ground
where we look at each other and say, I'm happy
we had that conversation. I'm happy we was able to
listen to each other. Now that everybody talking over the internet,
I'm happy we was able to see that video about
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how other people think. Because this, let's be honest, and
this world is just not about how you as an
individual thing and you should never be a part of
group things, because that's gonna be That's why the world
getting so dangerous with what was going on, because everybody
a part of group thing, right. It's the political pros.
Everybody think if you black, you should be a Democrat
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and if you will say you were conservative, you must
sell out. What if my political views don't align with
either party. Do you understand what I'm saying I should
be censored because of that? No? Man, Come on, Yeah,
And it's kind of while when you think about it,
dud bro, you think about it like this. I heard
another theory from the home girl Testing for girls shout
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out to Testing and she told me a long time
ago that Republicans break off they break off serious money
for people to push the agenda. Now, think about see
this same Kanye force for away in the politics. Remember
he was running from resident before he was endorsing Donald Trump.
And this is the same mean that maybe a decade
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ago seeing the George Bush don't care about black people, right,
you know, way, George Bush and Donald Trump are two
different people just because they're part of the same party.
That's group think. Just because two people are Republicans don't
mean that they think alike. So ten years ago, if
he felt like that that could have been true at
the time, and then him endorsing another Republican that that
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don't necessarily go together to me. No, it don't to
me either, because that's just like saying all Democrats are
this way or all Green Party people are his legs.
First of all, for you to play your leaders to
a party is sick because then people will think they
all think the same way. So when these bills and
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stuff come up, when they'd be like, oh, such and
such from uh Michigan voting no on this bill, Okay,
maybe he didn't that bill. I can't vote with you
just because I'm in your political I really believe people
have a right to say whatever the hell they want
to say. It's our option on whether we want to
listen to them or not. But I will tell you this,
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this is what I truly believe. I believe that Canadas,
Owens and Kanye West has been bought and faith for
by the Republican Front. Well that if you're gonna say that,
then you don't have to call a lot of people
who have been bought and paid for by the Democratic Party.
So right, that's what I'm saying. Do that, do that?
Call them out too? Right? But like I don't even
pay attention to Democrats and Republicans because it's all the
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it's all the same thing, right, Like, Uh, if people
pay you more attention to like what they really believe,
you will find that you have you from both parties.
So just to viewing some crazy rhetoric about the opposite
party is acidine and ridiculous. That's just like saying, uh
that a blood shouldn't wear blue, and then you notice
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that like now with Gang Bang, it's not even a
color thing because you would see chrisp with red, all right,
because because they found out that, like I would. I'm
okay with wearing this color too, because it's it's how
you feel about the situation, not about what you wear. Uh.
And I say that to say this like, it's people
who bought and paid for by both parties and if
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you tap into them, then that's on you, you know
what I mean. Pub Daddy could never tell me who
to vote for it because that's that's my personal preference
who I will vote for. Right. I listened to radio
in the morning, and I noticed that Urban radio because
I listened to morning more than urban radio, Urban radio
pushed the Democratic agenda. Crazy, right, I'm okay with that
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because I'm still I think for myself. So they couldn't
get me to vote with one of those commercials if
they tried. But I just look at it like, oh,
so people saying that, uh, two people bought and paid
for by the Republican Party is if other people not
bought and paid for by the cracking party. And by
the way, I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. We're
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just speaking on these topics. I'm not a Democratic or
Republican either, and uh, I'm not gonna live. Some years
I voted for Democrats, some years I voted for Republicans.
Some years I voted for somebody from the Green Party.
It depends on who my pressures was, who I found
to beat more, whoever I found that time to deal
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with more the issues I was concerned about. That's what
I voted for. And I think that's how the American
public votes for generally. With the accession of the brainwashed,
you listen to everything that other people say. No, no,
the brandwashed is the majority when it comes to voting.
The brandwash is the majority because the brain wash think
that they only have two parties to even choose something.
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So many people who are listening to this never even
heard of the Green Party. They don't even know that exists,
you know what I'm saying. So the brand wash, whoever
wins the election, the one who was the most brand
and washed is who voted the most. You feel what
I'm saying, because that that's mass voting just by party
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is just brainwashing. Like even like I'm in a union
and at work, they just sent us a mailer on
who to vote for. Are you out of your mind?
You're not about to tell me who to vote for?
Like just because I'm in a union, Well you know what,
I think that's what people do because assuming your job
is part of a union, right yeah, yeah, I'm a
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union worker. Yeah. So yeah, So please believe that that
whether it's the Democrats or Republican Party, somebody has broke
some money off to somebody for them to push that thing.
That's why you all hear people saying they gotta get
certain unions, they have to get certain people in high
position because they want those people that are inside that
they want to try to get as many voters as
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they can to sway as many people to their message
as they can. Right now, I honestly don't have a
problem with if you consider there and tell me you
voted for Trump both times, mean you still be friends
because that's your opinion. I actually think Trump was with
American needed at this time. Oh, definitely, definitely in my
lifetime as a voting citizen, Donald Trump was the best
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president that I've seen that affected the people and the
things around me, the votes, you know, Like I was
directly affected by him doing some things with the auto
industry that kept me my job, Like literally directly affected,
you know what I'm saying. Like, so that was I
couldn't ask for nothing else, Like I'm good with that.
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Like I kept my job because I'm a factory worker,
and he made sure factory work stay in America. So
that helped. That helped way more people than that even
know that. But I just know that because I'm tuned
into what's going on and within the industry that I
work in. Well, you have to be. You have to
be turned tuned the end of that man. Because the
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thing else did Donald Trump did? He do some things
I didn't particularly care for year I think all presidents
do right. But for the most part, men, America's a superpower.
We don't need no punk as president in office. If
you notice that guy that was up in Korea, what
was his name, Kim Y, Yeah, the Kim young guy.
You remember, if you remember when Bush was in office,
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he was acting food all the time, cutting up, always
sending thricks. But when Donald Trump came all that ship
kind of cease and desisted because he knew the dunk
one planing. Donald pretty much came up and said, listen,
I lay when I lay a miss him on y'all
as y'all s been talking that ship, y'all can compete
with us. We could blow that ship off the map
if you wanted to. And if you notice, he kind
of stopped. Ironically, a fine fact that the guy we're
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talking about, Kim the ruler career, actually writes great plays.
He used to write and put on like great productions
that was played that he wrote itself like that. You
don't know if that ship was great or it was propaganda,
and they just didn't want to tell he's a dictator.
But everybody who ruled the country at it, but they
just saying it's great, saying it could be gardage. I
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gotta see it for myself, you feel me. I gotta
see it for myself. Yeah, that's it, man. It's just
the only way people gonna understand that these freedoms that's
a quotation mark in America, it that they don't really exist,
is when they see it taken away from themselves. America
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is a nation full of people that you have to
show them by them being the subject of the issue
and the demonstration, or they don't believe it. See, it
can happen to Kanye all we wanted to, because that
ain't me. It can happen to everybody around you all
you wanted to. But when it happened to you, then
people start praying out for helping and all of that. Listen, man,
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if one person can't say what they want to, then
nobody can say what they want to because the law
and the rights that we have as a law of
buying American citizens to be set up for every single person.
Not if you don't like what I said, because I'm
in power and I'm more powerful than you. But the
realization of the Corporation of America is that the powerful
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pulls the springs and makes the weaker party look crazy
and derange and everything. And it's not a money thing.
It don't matter how much money you get, because when
you start looking crazy to the outside world based on
what you believe is the truth that those are what
we call the powers that be, that's a real thing.
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The powers that be. That's a real thing. When the
artists you gotta type his name in and his Apple,
name and everything and spell it right. When he's a
musical artist on a certain uh streaming platforms, when that
artist was just one of the highest uh streaming artist,
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that's the powers that be at work. I'm not talking
about Kanye when I'm talking about that, I'm talking about
a different artist. But the powers that be flex their power.
So if you're not going to be one of the
powers that be, it's best as you just leave it alone.
Well you know what the thing is though, you just
brought up from a found point and that's what I
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don't like. Right. So you have cats like Spotify, you
have cats like Spotify, um, Apple Music. You know title
all of these what title is not that powerful? But
Spotify and Apple run stuff now they pretty much dictate
the game. Right. So my thing is this, Right, what
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does politics have to do with music? At the end
of the day, it has nothing to do with you, no, no,
but it does because again, these corporations are are invested
within each other. Because Spotify not just music no more.
Apple not just mute it no more. Now, these big
giant entities have things where people can push their agendas,
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and those things can be bought and paid for. So
you gotta look at a company like Spotify. They've got
billions and billions of strings from music, but somehow podcasts
and pay the bills. Now you know what I'm saying.
So these entities are all one. It's all connected by
the dollar by the people who run the organizations. And
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I might be the CEO over here, and I might
be on the executive board over here. I might be
over here doing this, and these two businesses don't cross,
but the money is crossing because all the industries are
is one big money grad for certain people. So no
matter what it is, whatever the top in the industry is,
somebody else is behind that as well and got some
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pull all over there. Yeah, because let's take Spotify for example. Right,
So we listened to these shows on Spotify, right, I
listened to our own show to Connective Experience. They drop
every Monday. Right, I've never ever heard an ad for
a Republican candidate right now, doing election season, every single
ad is for you to go out and vote for
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a Democrat. Right. Why is that because they look at
us as black and they think that we can put
the Democratic agenda by putting place in these ads in
their show. Now, when I listened to other podcasts that's
not run or that has nothing to do with black people.
It's all Republican aids. That's programming. Right when I'm listening
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to the Latino podcast, when they commercials run, they run
an ads for you to vote for Republicans in this area.
Because it's all based on the air exactly, and they're
spending millions upon millions of dollars. And the thing you
bring up a good point. You bring up a real
good point, Antoine, What I'm gonna do because we have
the right to pick what kind of ads we want
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to running our shows. We don't want no political ads,
no political ads. Bro, I'm not because what he does
is it confused because the listener think I had this
add I heard this ad during this show. No, no, no,
not with me, no siree. Bob snapped my job to
put your candidate right. And that's that's what back to
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the original question, what the music has to do with
uh politics or stuff like that is because it's about
the entities and the companies. They spending millions of dollars
on ads to run during show to put in certain markets.
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So that's what it got to do with it. So
they're given spot they give it Spoti five millions of dollars.
You know what I'm saying. They're giving these uh, these
companies millions of dollars to run their ads or whatever.
So they got some poor they got some say so
when it comes to certain stuff over there, because that's
millions of dollars. Well, we have to run this podcast
just the same. We don't want these particular ads running
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our programming because my thing is this. I think that's
a personal choice. And whoever I want the doors, they
should become to me directly telling me to run ads
on my show. Right, it should be a live read.
If anything, it should be a live read. That's why
I'm actually, uh, I don't like automated ads. You know
where bro thing he is. You bring up another different
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interesting point, right, you know Apple, podcast, Um, Spotify, all
of these people. Right when music gets streamed, they pay
a royalty. Right. I think that's coming for podcaster too. Yeah,
I think that's coming from podcasting real soon. Because you
think about it, this is a published work right now,
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this conversation we're having is a published work, am I correct? Definitely?
Definitely this was a book or anything else. People receive
a royalty by getting to play, wouldn't we right, And
that's that's actually probably already happening, and it's just hasn't
trickled down to to to the to the podcasting networks
and wholes yet, like that's actually going on. Like you know,
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you're always gonna be last to know when you the entertainment,
when you when you're the talent, the talent is always
gonna be lasting all about some of that. So that's
I solely believe that that's already going on. I know
that's going on because it's published work on public platforms
that's getting millions and millions of streams. Some of these shows.
Joe Rogan he got sixty four sixty five gazillion streams
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overall on his show. That's worth something to somebody, you
feel me. So that's already happened. He's definitely a factor, man,
one of the biggest you know, probably if not the
biggest podcast in the game. You know, he's good, you know, um,
I can see. You know, it's a whole lot of
stuff going around with casts is saying the gillion rawl
just got a hundred million dollars or whatever, and that's cool.
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Whatever they got, you know, that's the businessman. But podcasting
is to be is turning into a very viable UM
product because we're pushing brands out there for people. Right,
there's going to be a way outside of ads, because
if a podcast don't have no sponsors, they're not making
no money. That's the only money that's gonn come from this.
That the UM a little stream of money to YouTube
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give you, which is good and sometimes and bad some
other times, you know what I mean. So it's not
really consistent. You know. That's why we're starting our own
streaming platform, I believe very much, and having ownership and
and stuff UM and having your own platform, because I
remember when my Space is out right at the time
of my Space is out, and I spent the least
fifteen thousand dollars on that page, you know, getting hooked
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up and everything, and I look up a month later
it's gone. It was back to the original form, and
then it was just disappeared completely, right, So I knew
since then I learned from that time. I said, man,
it's not you have You can't base your business model
on somebody as a platform. That's just not smart. And
that's where we're actually witnessing right now with being canceled
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and being banned and stuff like that, is because so
many people the world put so much stock into things
that they have no control over. So if Instagram or
whatever or Facebook want to kick you off a platform
and you can't have a page or whatever, why are
you crying about that? It's it's actually terms and rules
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that you agree to when you sign up for these
platforms that you don't even understand that you clicking because
you just clicking through. Nobody even reads these terms and agreements,
and somewhere in the terms of agreements they're gonna say
you violated it. That's why they got rid of you.
You don't gotta fight in that because you don't even
understand that you agree to not do certain things already.
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So once you already agreed to something on somebody else,
something something that's controlled by somebody else, whenever they say
it's time to go, it's time to go. Whether that's
the biggest celebrity or the little guy that don't nobody knows.
That's what that's what we witness And you only can
be castle from stuff you can't control. Yeah, that's the thing, man,
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It's some crazy times right now, you know, shout out
to Black Effect man. I like the way Charlotte may
get down. Man. It's actually a pretty good situation because
they put a lot of control in our hands. Like
we actually licensed our showing them, so we didn't um,
we didn't sell our show. We didn't do nothing that
we under a licensing deal with them with Black Effect,
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you know what I mean, it's a good partnership. We
actually about to renew with them. And that's what I
do like about being down with Charlotte Mayne is that
he empowers you. You saying it was a crazy time,
but I want to touch on that it's not actually
a crazy time. What it is is a very hypocritical
time because all of these people who always want to
cancel people, no matter what is for and who it is,
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act like they've never done anything wrong. We're all human,
we all fall short. Everybody can look at the next
person to say what they're doing wrong, But the really is,
can you look in the mirror and say what you're
doing wrong? Because the same person who want to cancel
somebody has done something that can be technically a cancelable
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or a cancelable whatever offense to someone else. I feel
like none of it stuff happened, and people mind their
own business and stop investing and be invested so much
in other people's lives. If you like somebody for music,
then dig them for music. That's it. If they ain't
breaking no laws against you, children are old people, then
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stay out their business. Because once you be in their
business and some of these people scurvy no yeah, yeah,
Once you be in their business and once you wanna
be a part of their life and you don't like
something that they do in their life, then you want
to cancel them, cancel yourself about being in these people mixed,
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and then life would be much sweeter and much easier
for you. I guarantee it. Bro. Well you know what,
agree with you to a certain extent, Brother, A lot
of what you said is but this is what yeah,
and I really think, man, the problem with podcasting right
now is dead. Nobody wants to put it in the work. Bro.
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Everybody thinks that they just gon come in, whether it's
because of they've got celebrity or because they have this
or whatever. They think they're gonna come in and make
millions of dollars. And I tell them it takes a
while for a podcast, they take off, especially on the audio,
because you're great at very heavily on your audio performance
on listening time. How much they don't give a damn
about YouTube. You get a million viewers on YouTube, they
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don't care. They care about the audio for the most part. Right,
and the thing years, man, you have to really stay
this man. It may take four years for your podcast
to take off. You have to worry about creating good content.
You can't worry about making money. You can't worry about nothing.
Like I think y'all got one of the best podcasts
in the game. I know it's one of the best.
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Thank you. I appreciate that. I want to touch on
something you said where you said people want to come
in the gag and make millions of dollars. Those people
can't even tell you how to make one dollar off
a podcast. You feel me like they don't know. They
just hear that a celebrity might got this amount of
money for coming in, or it's so affordable and it's
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the new thing that everybody think that they can do it.
So somehow, like most podcasts don't make it ten episodes. Hey,
let's pay some bills real quickly. You know what I'm saying,
And once people realize that a good podcast is a
real job because you have to do research, you have
to you have to do everything that go into making
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something good, and that's hard work. Like before we ever
cut on the mics, we studied podcasting and that was
years ago. Our our podcast anniversary coming up November seven.
We've been at yeah, November four, We've been doing it
for five years, you know what I'm saying. But before that,
all we did was listening and seeing what wasn't out there.
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Not all people do is listen and happy everything that's
out there. So that's not gonna work, you know what
I'm saying. That's like a rapper bite in Yeah for sure. Man.
And you know, you got a lot of guys that
are getting upset at the smaller guy, so to speak.
Like facts, Joe just made a comment about the YouTubers
obviously got up under the skin. It made him feel
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some kind of way because you said YouTubers, you know,
funk y'all who they all knows who y'all are. Evidently
a lot of people know who they are. Some of
these guys are getting millions of views, right, They actually
doing better than fact Joe because I remember when Fact
Joe was on title, they went and bought a whole
bunch of views. You know that. I saw videos that
had a million views on them, but no comments, comments
turned off? Where they do that there? You know usually
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if you see a video, they got a million views
on the right com you know, you can see a video.
I don't know me if I if I got a
feel got a million fused, I gotta leave twenty comments,
you know what I mean, at the minimum hundred three thousand,
most cases ten thousand comments. He had this comments turned off,
which means that they those jews were probably bought by
bots or whatever else. This is when he was doing
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a podcast for Titles. Remember he had the thing where
he was in the cave or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, lookout,
we uh that's going on? You you use a clip
to this on the YouTube? Well, of course I'm gonna
share a clip. You know. I don't I stand on
everything I say. Though I ain't worried about my fire
slapper shot of Fact he come and meet with some ship,
I wouldn't say that. I wish he would don't get
mad because I see it's something talk about nobody know
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what Joe says that you and me and West nigga, Babe,
you all gotta be to aggressively smooth. That's why we
come running the whole game. You feel me, Me and West,
we come take it over because we just we just
moved his niggas out here. Baby, You feel me and
we ain't no greasy man and West niggas either. You
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feel me? Yeah, now you know and thing else. I
don't have nothing against fact Joe dog just stating the
facts about that. I'm just stating the fact because it's
like people have a right to have an opinion, just
like fact Joe from doing this platform and see whatever
he's going to about somebody. But the moment somebody saying
something about him, and I know what he's made about
because they see it that in fact, Joe pretty much
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is in violation. You know, they brought back the picture.
In fact, Joe pretty much looked like a little white
boy when he was younger. Right, he's a fair student,
but he's a Puerto Rican guy. Now, I'm gonna tell
you what I wasn't win the tech of fact Joe.
I think he's a part of hip hop, don't. And
I think he's just a part of his community. You know,
Joe was raised around all black people. Let me let
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me cut you off. But that doesn't matter, you know
what I'm saying, because if they're saying that the term
is being used derogatory, I don't care who raised around
who if if we're using derivator, if they're trying to
say that he was using the term derogatory, like he
shouldn't be saying it, like you shouldn't be saying it right,
But it's way too late for that. He didn't spit
out so many niggas that he nig it out. It's
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too late, like some people probably don't even know if
Fat Joe wasn't black, so that it's too late. Because
hip hop black people are so accepting of other cultures
within whatever they're doing. You feel what I'm saying, like,
you're not gonna be around a bunch of Mexicans use
the derogatory what can be considered a derogatory term around
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a bunch of Mexicans or around a bunch of Irish.
Black people accept things and then they get then they
get mad at things. You can't do that. You can't
do that if you you welcome in it with open arms,
and then when you get mad at it, you wanna
talk about what you like about it. You can't do that.
People need to understand that. Uh. Once the term go
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mainstream and y'all okay with everybody seeing it, you you
you kind of can't pick and choose. You know what
I mean? In my in my for Puerto Ricans and
Mexicans and all of that, saying nigga not not one chance,
not on your life. I'm not you feel what I'm saying.
But I ain't to mega police. You feel what I'm saying.
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That's just the don be all. I ain't the Niga police.
So what I'm supposed to do police every Mexican and
Puerto Rican and Dominican who say it, I'm not doing that. Bro.
You know what I'm saying. You know you in violation
if you upset, You know you in violation. If you're
saying it because you don't you out, Uh, the rocket
turned towards you. But but at the same time, the
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real issue is words aren't exclusive to people. No, they're not. So,
so that's exactly why I'm not Words aren't exclusive to people,
Foods aren't exclusive to people. None of these things that
make people mad or make people think that a person
in a black because he used words or he used this.
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None of those things are exclusive to one person. So
whoever to say whatever they want to say. Ain't Nobody
checked that Joe when he was saying nigga. Ever, so
what the internet gonna do? He raised that Joe for
saying nigga. No, nigga, and nigga ain't never stepped to him,
nof you stepped to him, and he got to stand
on that, and you are and y'all got another luck.
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Even if he lose, he's still gonna say niga. Yeah,
just words not exclusive. Nothing is exclusive, So nothing makes
you something, you know what I'm saying? Like, I liked
it that that was a good Uh, that was a
good way to look at things. Nothing is exclusive, you
know what I mean. Is not exclusive to Mexican people,
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no more than fried chicken is not exclusive to blacks. Right,
that's what you're saying, right, Yeah, like no, nigga, I
don't eat watermelon like I do? But what Yeah, yeah,
I love it. We are really selective in this society
about who we decided to check. And it's like Kanye
is almost like the easy victim because he's a pretty
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reserved dude. Kanye, it's not a tough dude. We're not
gonna say that either because we don't know. But listen
what I'm saying, Like, I don't know if Kanye tany
might whoope, everybody's saying smoke, we know, but he's not
an aggressive guy. See what I'm saying that, he's not
a cristial pushed out here right he Listen, bro, anybody
who can survive through this ship gotta be tough some
type of way. And that ain't just like, uh, I
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beat your as physically. You know what I'm saying. But
the thing is that society pick people who they feel
like they can bully, and everybody do attack that that
person like one to three attack, you know, just because
the nigga was wearing pink polos and ship. And let's
not forget that the nigga from Chicago. You feel what
I'm saying now, not that Chicago like the toughest city
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in the world, but to make it out of Chicago,
you gotta know how to navigate. And that's part of
being tough mentally. You gotta know how to navigate out
of these mid West places. Because the Maya West, it's
a cold world. Bro, you feel what I'm saying. But
what we're saying about Fat Joe is is if you
feel that strongly about Fat Joe saying nigga, this is
for anybody step to Fat Joe and tell that nigga
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in his face, don't say that ship no more, especially
around me now, for nigga. Ain't gonna do that the nigga.
Nigga might as well be quiet, you feel me. But
Fat Joe also too, Nigga. Don't play into it because
you know what the people saying, I don't want to
where he was raised that Well, I'm gonna tell you
what suck me up about it. And the only reason
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I'm not going more in the detailed on this because
I actually didn't hear this myself, so I'm real cautious
about using second hand information for stuff. Right. But someone
said that ain't nobody he said the fact Joe said,
ain't nobody gonna stop him saying nigga, And they asked him, yeah,
I say nigga, but that don't mean I'm gonna get
involved in their costs. Did y'all hear that? So he's
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gonna use the word nigga. But he's like, I didn't
hear that he said that. But even if he did, right,
I'm not mad at that because he's saying, who goes
make me not say it? But I don't think he
said that because like that sounds too internet e to me,
Like that's I have an Internet and that would be
out everywhere if that nigga said that. But again, none
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of this stuff is excluded to like once the term
nigga was accepted as that's how you greet your homeboy
and it became commercial, then it's out of there. Is
up for graphs, it is. Everybody's like like, you can't
you you can't be around hearing nigga, nigga nigga all
day and not say the words or any words or whatever,
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because again it's part of the programming. It's part of
the program and so he was raised around that program.
Then hip hop actually just took those programs and program
the world with him is like, that's that's just a
part of the hip hop culture now as much as
breakdancing ship that that's just what it is. Because all
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of these niggas saying that, well, we gonna do since
we have some technical difficulties tonight, I'm going to cut
this short. But what I'm gonna do Antoine and Santoine,
I'm gonna have your back on tomorrow, right know the
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Welcome to another episode of the Gangster Chronicles podcast. To night,
I got some very special guests all the way from Inster, Michigan.
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My homeboys from the Connected Experience. What's that having the fellas?
What's going on? What's going on? I got my boy
Santoine and Antoine. You know what I'm saying, Cash more
the Michigan some fresh cash. You know, it's been a
lot of stuff going on the past few weeks, man,
you know the whole Kanye West stuff. Now you got
cats um actually Jewish rappers making disc records towards Kanye.
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The one thing I was talking about with Cam earlier
today was this. We were talking about freedom of speech.
And as you know, Cam heat from the nation, so
he got his thoughts on certain things, right. But one
thing we thought about we talked about is do you
think we're in an era of censorship right now? Yeah?
It's uh, selective censorship is what it is. It's not
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just censorship is selected. So it's just the right people
feel like you need to be censored, then you'll be censored.
So it's just really selective. Though. Yeah, I can agree
with that because everybody ain't being censored. But if if
you're not going on with what they say and whoever
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you think they is, then they go sense to you.
That could be politically, that could be entertainment wise, that
could be talking about people when they come to sports.
If you're not saying that, what we want you to say,
and what they agree with, they're gonna shut you down. Bro.
You know what, I've got to agree with you guys, man,
because see one thing about it this for me and Cam,
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this is about telling Cam. You know, of course, if
we hear a guy from the Arian Nation or a
white supremacist whatever talking about black people, right, you know
that's kind of um, you know, it could piss you
off whatever, But I say, just don't listen to him.
But that white supremacist has the right the state's opinion,
just like the Brothers down for Black Lives Matter, just
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like the Brothers down for whatever. It's like the Black
Panthers had a certain right freedom of speech. I think
the moment we start trying to just sensor people, man,
we hit it towards the things to slope and not
assueing that the brands is running everything. The brands have
the power to pretty much set somebody down because if
they stop supporting your piece of content and your show,
whatever you've got going on, you pretty much asked do
this for free. Yeah, And that's the problem, uh, that
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we're facing, and that we've always been facing. It's people
only want freedom of speech for what they want to
say I'm a type of person. I want to hear
the opposition because I'm still learning and maybe what they're
saying is relatable and understandable, but I will get abundant
better understand than anyway. I can't just think everything that
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I think, right, let me hear somebody who oppose my
thought process. Let me understand what they're saying, because for
them to think like that and for me to think
like this, it's still can always be a common ground
where we look at each other and say, I'm happy
we had that conversation. I'm happy we was able to
listen to each other. Now that everybody talking over the internet,
I'm happy we was able to see that video about
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how other people think. Because this, let's be honest, and
this world is just not about how you as an
individual thing and you should never be a part of
group things, because that's gonna be That's why the world
getting so dangerous with what was going on, because everybody
a part of group thing, right. It's the political pros.
Everybody think if you black, you should be a Democrat
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and if you will say you were conservative, you must
sell out. What if my political views don't align with
either party. Do you understand what I'm saying I should
be censored because of that? No? Man, Come on, Yeah,
And it's kind of while when you think about it,
dud bro, you think about it like this. I heard
another theory from the home girl Testing for girls shout
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out to Testing and she told me a long time
ago that Republicans break off they break off serious money
for people to push the agenda. Now, think about see
this same Kanye force for away in the politics. Remember
he was running from resident before he was endorsing Donald Trump.
And this is the same mean that maybe a decade
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ago seeing the George Bush don't care about black people, right,
you know, way, George Bush and Donald Trump are two
different people just because they're part of the same party.
That's group think. Just because two people are Republicans don't
mean that they think alike. So ten years ago, if
he felt like that that could have been true at
the time, and then him endorsing another Republican that that
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don't necessarily go together to me. No, it don't to
me either, because that's just like saying all Democrats are
this way or all Green Party people are his legs.
First of all, for you to play your leaders to
a party is sick because then people will think they
all think the same way. So when these bills and
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stuff come up, when they'd be like, oh, such and
such from uh Michigan voting no on this bill, Okay,
maybe he didn't that bill. I can't vote with you
just because I'm in your political I really believe people
have a right to say whatever the hell they want
to say. It's our option on whether we want to
listen to them or not. But I will tell you this,
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this is what I truly believe. I believe that Canadas,
Owens and Kanye West has been bought and faith for
by the Republican Front. Well that if you're gonna say that,
then you don't have to call a lot of people
who have been bought and paid for by the Democratic Party.
So right, that's what I'm saying. Do that, do that?
Call them out too? Right? But like I don't even
pay attention to Democrats and Republicans because it's all the
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it's all the same thing, right, Like, Uh, if people
pay you more attention to like what they really believe,
you will find that you have you from both parties.
So just to viewing some crazy rhetoric about the opposite
party is acidine and ridiculous. That's just like saying, uh
that a blood shouldn't wear blue, and then you notice
(06:58):
that like now with Gang Bang, it's not even a
color thing because you would see chrisp with red, all right,
because because they found out that, like I would. I'm
okay with wearing this color too, because it's it's how
you feel about the situation, not about what you wear. Uh.
And I say that to say this like, it's people
who bought and paid for by both parties and if
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you tap into them, then that's on you, you know
what I mean. Pub Daddy could never tell me who
to vote for it because that's that's my personal preference
who I will vote for. Right. I listened to radio
in the morning, and I noticed that Urban radio because
I listened to morning more than urban radio, Urban radio
pushed the Democratic agenda. Crazy, right, I'm okay with that
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because I'm still I think for myself. So they couldn't
get me to vote with one of those commercials if
they tried. But I just look at it like, oh,
so people saying that, uh, two people bought and paid
for by the Republican Party is if other people not
bought and paid for by the cracking party. And by
the way, I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. We're
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just speaking on these topics. I'm not a Democratic or
Republican either, and uh, I'm not gonna live. Some years
I voted for Democrats, some years I voted for Republicans.
Some years I voted for somebody from the Green Party.
It depends on who my pressures was, who I found
to beat more, whoever I found that time to deal
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with more the issues I was concerned about. That's what
I voted for. And I think that's how the American
public votes for generally. With the accession of the brainwashed,
you listen to everything that other people say. No, no,
the brandwashed is the majority when it comes to voting.
The brandwash is the majority because the brain wash think
that they only have two parties to even choose something.
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So many people who are listening to this never even
heard of the Green Party. They don't even know that exists,
you know what I'm saying. So the brand wash, whoever
wins the election, the one who was the most brand
and washed is who voted the most. You feel what
I'm saying, because that that's mass voting just by party
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is just brainwashing. Like even like I'm in a union
and at work, they just sent us a mailer on
who to vote for. Are you out of your mind?
You're not about to tell me who to vote for?
Like just because I'm in a union, Well you know what,
I think that's what people do because assuming your job
is part of a union, right yeah, yeah, I'm a
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union worker. Yeah. So yeah, So please believe that that
whether it's the Democrats or Republican Party, somebody has broke
some money off to somebody for them to push that thing.
That's why you all hear people saying they gotta get
certain unions, they have to get certain people in high
position because they want those people that are inside that
they want to try to get as many voters as
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they can to sway as many people to their message
as they can. Right now, I honestly don't have a
problem with if you consider there and tell me you
voted for Trump both times, mean you still be friends
because that's your opinion. I actually think Trump was with
American needed at this time. Oh, definitely, definitely in my
lifetime as a voting citizen, Donald Trump was the best
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president that I've seen that affected the people and the
things around me, the votes, you know, Like I was
directly affected by him doing some things with the auto
industry that kept me my job, Like literally directly affected,
you know what I'm saying. Like, so that was I
couldn't ask for nothing else, Like I'm good with that.
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Like I kept my job because I'm a factory worker,
and he made sure factory work stay in America. So
that helped. That helped way more people than that even
know that. But I just know that because I'm tuned
into what's going on and within the industry that I
work in. Well, you have to be. You have to
be turned tuned the end of that man. Because the
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thing else did Donald Trump did? He do some things
I didn't particularly care for year I think all presidents
do right. But for the most part, men, America's a superpower.
We don't need no punk as president in office. If
you notice that guy that was up in Korea, what
was his name, Kim Y, Yeah, the Kim young guy.
You remember, if you remember when Bush was in office,
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he was acting food all the time, cutting up, always
sending thricks. But when Donald Trump came all that ship
kind of cease and desisted because he knew the dunk
one planing. Donald pretty much came up and said, listen,
I lay when I lay a miss him on y'all
as y'all s been talking that ship, y'all can compete
with us. We could blow that ship off the map
if you wanted to. And if you notice, he kind
of stopped. Ironically, a fine fact that the guy we're
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talking about, Kim the ruler career, actually writes great plays.
He used to write and put on like great productions
that was played that he wrote itself like that. You
don't know if that ship was great or it was propaganda,
and they just didn't want to tell he's a dictator.
But everybody who ruled the country at it, but they
just saying it's great, saying it could be gardage. I
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gotta see it for myself, you feel me. I gotta
see it for myself. Yeah, that's it, man. It's just
the only way people gonna understand that these freedoms that's
a quotation mark in America, it that they don't really exist,
is when they see it taken away from themselves. America
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is a nation full of people that you have to
show them by them being the subject of the issue
and the demonstration, or they don't believe it. See, it
can happen to Kanye all we wanted to, because that
ain't me. It can happen to everybody around you all
you wanted to. But when it happened to you, then
people start praying out for helping and all of that. Listen, man,
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if one person can't say what they want to, then
nobody can say what they want to because the law
and the rights that we have as a law of
buying American citizens to be set up for every single person.
Not if you don't like what I said, because I'm
in power and I'm more powerful than you. But the
realization of the Corporation of America is that the powerful
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pulls the springs and makes the weaker party look crazy
and derange and everything. And it's not a money thing.
It don't matter how much money you get, because when
you start looking crazy to the outside world based on
what you believe is the truth that those are what
we call the powers that be, that's a real thing.
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The powers that be. That's a real thing. When the
artists you gotta type his name in and his Apple,
name and everything and spell it right. When he's a
musical artist on a certain uh streaming platforms, when that
artist was just one of the highest uh streaming artist,
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that's the powers that be at work. I'm not talking
about Kanye when I'm talking about that, I'm talking about
a different artist. But the powers that be flex their power.
So if you're not going to be one of the
powers that be, it's best as you just leave it alone.
Well you know what the thing is though, you just
brought up from a found point and that's what I
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don't like. Right. So you have cats like Spotify, you
have cats like Spotify, um, Apple Music. You know title
all of these what title is not that powerful? But
Spotify and Apple run stuff now they pretty much dictate
the game. Right. So my thing is this, Right, what
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does politics have to do with music? At the end
of the day, it has nothing to do with you, no, no,
but it does because again, these corporations are are invested
within each other. Because Spotify not just music no more.
Apple not just mute it no more. Now, these big
giant entities have things where people can push their agendas,
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and those things can be bought and paid for. So
you gotta look at a company like Spotify. They've got
billions and billions of strings from music, but somehow podcasts
and pay the bills. Now you know what I'm saying.
So these entities are all one. It's all connected by
the dollar by the people who run the organizations. And
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I might be the CEO over here, and I might
be on the executive board over here. I might be
over here doing this, and these two businesses don't cross,
but the money is crossing because all the industries are
is one big money grad for certain people. So no
matter what it is, whatever the top in the industry is,
somebody else is behind that as well and got some
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pull all over there. Yeah, because let's take Spotify for example. Right,
So we listened to these shows on Spotify, right, I
listened to our own show to Connective Experience. They drop
every Monday. Right, I've never ever heard an ad for
a Republican candidate right now, doing election season, every single
ad is for you to go out and vote for
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a Democrat. Right. Why is that because they look at
us as black and they think that we can put
the Democratic agenda by putting place in these ads in
their show. Now, when I listened to other podcasts that's
not run or that has nothing to do with black people.
It's all Republican aids. That's programming. Right when I'm listening
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to the Latino podcast, when they commercials run, they run
an ads for you to vote for Republicans in this area.
Because it's all based on the air exactly, and they're
spending millions upon millions of dollars. And the thing you
bring up a good point. You bring up a real
good point, Antoine, What I'm gonna do because we have
the right to pick what kind of ads we want
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to running our shows. We don't want no political ads,
no political ads. Bro, I'm not because what he does
is it confused because the listener think I had this
add I heard this ad during this show. No, no, no,
not with me, no siree. Bob snapped my job to
put your candidate right. And that's that's what back to
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the original question, what the music has to do with
uh politics or stuff like that is because it's about
the entities and the companies. They spending millions of dollars
on ads to run during show to put in certain markets.
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So that's what it got to do with it. So
they're given spot they give it Spoti five millions of dollars.
You know what I'm saying. They're giving these uh, these
companies millions of dollars to run their ads or whatever.
So they got some poor they got some say so
when it comes to certain stuff over there, because that's
millions of dollars. Well, we have to run this podcast
just the same. We don't want these particular ads running
(18:04):
our programming because my thing is this. I think that's
a personal choice. And whoever I want the doors, they
should become to me directly telling me to run ads
on my show. Right, it should be a live read.
If anything, it should be a live read. That's why
I'm actually, uh, I don't like automated ads. You know
where bro thing he is. You bring up another different
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interesting point, right, you know Apple, podcast, Um, Spotify, all
of these people. Right when music gets streamed, they pay
a royalty. Right. I think that's coming for podcaster too. Yeah,
I think that's coming from podcasting real soon. Because you
think about it, this is a published work right now,
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this conversation we're having is a published work, am I correct? Definitely?
Definitely this was a book or anything else. People receive
a royalty by getting to play, wouldn't we right, And
that's that's actually probably already happening, and it's just hasn't
trickled down to to to the to the podcasting networks
and wholes yet, like that's actually going on. Like you know,
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you're always gonna be last to know when you the entertainment,
when you when you're the talent, the talent is always
gonna be lasting all about some of that. So that's
I solely believe that that's already going on. I know
that's going on because it's published work on public platforms
that's getting millions and millions of streams. Some of these shows.
Joe Rogan he got sixty four sixty five gazillion streams
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overall on his show. That's worth something to somebody, you
feel me. So that's already happened. He's definitely a factor, man,
one of the biggest you know, probably if not the
biggest podcast in the game. You know, he's good, you know, um,
I can see. You know, it's a whole lot of
stuff going around with casts is saying the gillion rawl
just got a hundred million dollars or whatever, and that's cool.
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Whatever they got, you know, that's the businessman. But podcasting
is to be is turning into a very viable UM
product because we're pushing brands out there for people. Right,
there's going to be a way outside of ads, because
if a podcast don't have no sponsors, they're not making
no money. That's the only money that's gonn come from this.
That the UM a little stream of money to YouTube
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give you, which is good and sometimes and bad some
other times, you know what I mean. So it's not
really consistent. You know. That's why we're starting our own
streaming platform, I believe very much, and having ownership and
and stuff UM and having your own platform, because I
remember when my Space is out right at the time
of my Space is out, and I spent the least
fifteen thousand dollars on that page, you know, getting hooked
(20:39):
up and everything, and I look up a month later
it's gone. It was back to the original form, and
then it was just disappeared completely, right, So I knew
since then I learned from that time. I said, man,
it's not you have You can't base your business model
on somebody as a platform. That's just not smart. And
that's where we're actually witnessing right now with being canceled
(21:00):
and being banned and stuff like that, is because so
many people the world put so much stock into things
that they have no control over. So if Instagram or
whatever or Facebook want to kick you off a platform
and you can't have a page or whatever, why are
you crying about that? It's it's actually terms and rules
(21:22):
that you agree to when you sign up for these
platforms that you don't even understand that you clicking because
you just clicking through. Nobody even reads these terms and agreements,
and somewhere in the terms of agreements they're gonna say
you violated it. That's why they got rid of you.
You don't gotta fight in that because you don't even
understand that you agree to not do certain things already.
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So once you already agreed to something on somebody else,
something something that's controlled by somebody else, whenever they say
it's time to go, it's time to go. Whether that's
the biggest celebrity or the little guy that don't nobody knows.
That's what that's what we witness And you only can
be castle from stuff you can't control. Yeah, that's the thing, man,
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It's some crazy times right now, you know, shout out
to Black Effect man. I like the way Charlotte may
get down. Man. It's actually a pretty good situation because
they put a lot of control in our hands. Like
we actually licensed our showing them, so we didn't um,
we didn't sell our show. We didn't do nothing that
we under a licensing deal with them with Black Effect,
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you know what I mean, it's a good partnership. We
actually about to renew with them. And that's what I
do like about being down with Charlotte Mayne is that
he empowers you. You saying it was a crazy time,
but I want to touch on that it's not actually
a crazy time. What it is is a very hypocritical
time because all of these people who always want to
cancel people, no matter what is for and who it is,
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act like they've never done anything wrong. We're all human,
we all fall short. Everybody can look at the next
person to say what they're doing wrong, But the really is,
can you look in the mirror and say what you're
doing wrong? Because the same person who want to cancel
somebody has done something that can be technically a cancelable
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or a cancelable whatever offense to someone else. I feel
like none of it stuff happened, and people mind their
own business and stop investing and be invested so much
in other people's lives. If you like somebody for music,
then dig them for music. That's it. If they ain't
breaking no laws against you, children are old people, then
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stay out their business. Because once you be in their
business and some of these people scurvy no yeah, yeah,
Once you be in their business and once you wanna
be a part of their life and you don't like
something that they do in their life, then you want
to cancel them, cancel yourself about being in these people mixed,
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and then life would be much sweeter and much easier
for you. I guarantee it. Bro. Well you know what,
agree with you to a certain extent, Brother, A lot
of what you said is but this is what yeah,
and I really think, man, the problem with podcasting right
now is dead. Nobody wants to put it in the work. Bro.
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Everybody thinks that they just gon come in, whether it's
because of they've got celebrity or because they have this
or whatever. They think they're gonna come in and make
millions of dollars. And I tell them it takes a
while for a podcast, they take off, especially on the audio,
because you're great at very heavily on your audio performance
on listening time. How much they don't give a damn
about YouTube. You get a million viewers on YouTube, they
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don't care. They care about the audio for the most part. Right,
and the thing years, man, you have to really stay
this man. It may take four years for your podcast
to take off. You have to worry about creating good content.
You can't worry about making money. You can't worry about nothing.
Like I think y'all got one of the best podcasts
in the game. I know it's one of the best.
(24:56):
Thank you. I appreciate that. I want to touch on
something you said where you said people want to come
in the gag and make millions of dollars. Those people
can't even tell you how to make one dollar off
a podcast. You feel me like they don't know. They
just hear that a celebrity might got this amount of
money for coming in, or it's so affordable and it's
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the new thing that everybody think that they can do it.
So somehow, like most podcasts don't make it ten episodes. Hey,
let's pay some bills real quickly. You know what I'm saying,
And once people realize that a good podcast is a
real job because you have to do research, you have
to you have to do everything that go into making
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something good, and that's hard work. Like before we ever
cut on the mics, we studied podcasting and that was
years ago. Our our podcast anniversary coming up November seven.
We've been at yeah, November four, We've been doing it
for five years, you know what I'm saying. But before that,
all we did was listening and seeing what wasn't out there.
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Not all people do is listen and happy everything that's
out there. So that's not gonna work, you know what
I'm saying. That's like a rapper bite in Yeah for sure. Man.
And you know, you got a lot of guys that
are getting upset at the smaller guy, so to speak.
Like facts, Joe just made a comment about the YouTubers
obviously got up under the skin. It made him feel
(26:20):
some kind of way because you said YouTubers, you know,
funk y'all who they all knows who y'all are. Evidently
a lot of people know who they are. Some of
these guys are getting millions of views, right, They actually
doing better than fact Joe because I remember when Fact
Joe was on title, they went and bought a whole
bunch of views. You know that. I saw videos that
had a million views on them, but no comments, comments
turned off? Where they do that there? You know usually
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if you see a video, they got a million views
on the right com you know, you can see a video.
I don't know me if I if I got a
feel got a million fused, I gotta leave twenty comments,
you know what I mean, at the minimum hundred three thousand,
most cases ten thousand comments. He had this comments turned off,
which means that they those jews were probably bought by
bots or whatever else. This is when he was doing
(27:04):
a podcast for Titles. Remember he had the thing where
he was in the cave or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, lookout,
we uh that's going on? You you use a clip
to this on the YouTube? Well, of course I'm gonna
share a clip. You know. I don't I stand on
everything I say. Though I ain't worried about my fire
slapper shot of Fact he come and meet with some ship,
I wouldn't say that. I wish he would don't get
mad because I see it's something talk about nobody know
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what Joe says that you and me and West nigga, Babe,
you all gotta be to aggressively smooth. That's why we
come running the whole game. You feel me, Me and West,
we come take it over because we just we just
moved his niggas out here. Baby, You feel me and
we ain't no greasy man and West niggas either. You
(27:47):
feel me? Yeah, now you know and thing else. I
don't have nothing against fact Joe dog just stating the
facts about that. I'm just stating the fact because it's
like people have a right to have an opinion, just
like fact Joe from doing this platform and see whatever
he's going to about somebody. But the moment somebody saying
something about him, and I know what he's made about
because they see it that in fact, Joe pretty much
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is in violation. You know, they brought back the picture.
In fact, Joe pretty much looked like a little white
boy when he was younger. Right, he's a fair student,
but he's a Puerto Rican guy. Now, I'm gonna tell
you what I wasn't win the tech of fact Joe.
I think he's a part of hip hop, don't. And
I think he's just a part of his community. You know,
Joe was raised around all black people. Let me let
(28:29):
me cut you off. But that doesn't matter, you know
what I'm saying, because if they're saying that the term
is being used derogatory, I don't care who raised around
who if if we're using derivator, if they're trying to
say that he was using the term derogatory, like he
shouldn't be saying it, like you shouldn't be saying it right,
But it's way too late for that. He didn't spit
out so many niggas that he nig it out. It's
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too late, like some people probably don't even know if
Fat Joe wasn't black, so that it's too late. Because
hip hop black people are so accepting of other cultures
within whatever they're doing. You feel what I'm saying, like,
you're not gonna be around a bunch of Mexicans use
the derogatory what can be considered a derogatory term around
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a bunch of Mexicans or around a bunch of Irish.
Black people accept things and then they get then they
get mad at things. You can't do that. You can't
do that if you you welcome in it with open arms,
and then when you get mad at it, you wanna
talk about what you like about it. You can't do that.
People need to understand that. Uh. Once the term go
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mainstream and y'all okay with everybody seeing it, you you
you kind of can't pick and choose. You know what
I mean? In my in my for Puerto Ricans and
Mexicans and all of that, saying nigga not not one chance,
not on your life. I'm not you feel what I'm saying.
But I ain't to mega police. You feel what I'm saying.
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That's just the don be all. I ain't the Niga police.
So what I'm supposed to do police every Mexican and
Puerto Rican and Dominican who say it, I'm not doing that. Bro.
You know what I'm saying. You know you in violation
if you upset, You know you in violation. If you're
saying it because you don't you out, Uh, the rocket
turned towards you. But but at the same time, the
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real issue is words aren't exclusive to people. No, they're not. So,
so that's exactly why I'm not Words aren't exclusive to people,
Foods aren't exclusive to people. None of these things that
make people mad or make people think that a person
in a black because he used words or he used this.
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None of those things are exclusive to one person. So
whoever to say whatever they want to say. Ain't Nobody
checked that Joe when he was saying nigga. Ever, so
what the internet gonna do? He raised that Joe for
saying nigga. No, nigga, and nigga ain't never stepped to him,
nof you stepped to him, and he got to stand
on that, and you are and y'all got another luck.
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Even if he lose, he's still gonna say niga. Yeah,
just words not exclusive. Nothing is exclusive, So nothing makes
you something, you know what I'm saying? Like, I liked
it that that was a good Uh, that was a
good way to look at things. Nothing is exclusive, you
know what I mean. Is not exclusive to Mexican people,
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no more than fried chicken is not exclusive to blacks. Right,
that's what you're saying, right, Yeah, like no, nigga, I
don't eat watermelon like I do? But what Yeah, yeah,
I love it. We are really selective in this society
about who we decided to check. And it's like Kanye
is almost like the easy victim because he's a pretty
(31:46):
reserved dude. Kanye, it's not a tough dude. We're not
gonna say that either because we don't know. But listen
what I'm saying, Like, I don't know if Kanye tany
might whoope, everybody's saying smoke, we know, but he's not
an aggressive guy. See what I'm saying that, he's not
a cristial pushed out here right he Listen, bro, anybody
who can survive through this ship gotta be tough some
type of way. And that ain't just like, uh, I
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beat your as physically. You know what I'm saying. But
the thing is that society pick people who they feel
like they can bully, and everybody do attack that that
person like one to three attack, you know, just because
the nigga was wearing pink polos and ship. And let's
not forget that the nigga from Chicago. You feel what
I'm saying now, not that Chicago like the toughest city
(32:28):
in the world, but to make it out of Chicago,
you gotta know how to navigate. And that's part of
being tough mentally. You gotta know how to navigate out
of these mid West places. Because the Maya West, it's
a cold world. Bro, you feel what I'm saying. But
what we're saying about Fat Joe is is if you
feel that strongly about Fat Joe saying nigga, this is
for anybody step to Fat Joe and tell that nigga
(32:50):
in his face, don't say that ship no more, especially
around me now, for nigga. Ain't gonna do that the nigga.
Nigga might as well be quiet, you feel me. But
Fat Joe also too, Nigga. Don't play into it because
you know what the people saying, I don't want to
where he was raised that Well, I'm gonna tell you
what suck me up about it. And the only reason
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I'm not going more in the detailed on this because
I actually didn't hear this myself, so I'm real cautious
about using second hand information for stuff. Right. But someone
said that ain't nobody he said the fact Joe said,
ain't nobody gonna stop him saying nigga, And they asked him, yeah,
I say nigga, but that don't mean I'm gonna get
involved in their costs. Did y'all hear that? So he's
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gonna use the word nigga. But he's like, I didn't
hear that he said that. But even if he did, right,
I'm not mad at that because he's saying, who goes
make me not say it? But I don't think he
said that because like that sounds too internet e to me,
Like that's I have an Internet and that would be
out everywhere if that nigga said that. But again, none
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of this stuff is excluded to like once the term
nigga was accepted as that's how you greet your homeboy
and it became commercial, then it's out of there. Is
up for graphs, it is. Everybody's like like, you can't
you you can't be around hearing nigga, nigga nigga all
day and not say the words or any words or whatever,
(34:20):
because again it's part of the programming. It's part of
the program and so he was raised around that program.
Then hip hop actually just took those programs and program
the world with him is like, that's that's just a
part of the hip hop culture now as much as
breakdancing ship that that's just what it is. Because all
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of these niggas saying that, well, we gonna do since
we have some technical difficulties tonight, I'm going to cut
this short. But what I'm gonna do Antoine and Santoine,
I'm gonna have your back on tomorrow, right know the
episode when we are the here Well That concludes another
episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download
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