Listen Up Youngsters

On this episode, Brad and Willie unpack the harsh realities of this generation and probe solutions and concepts to worth implementing in these trying times.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yeah, gett boys, it's back and rehoaded all in your mind. Yeah,
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the railroaded, the distant franchise, the truth escape building. And
they ain't know when we speak the truth, so they
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is the g b my t keeping your head bobbing.

(00:21):
It ain't no stopping and wants to be dropped head
by And then the system is so corrupt they throw
the rock out of their heads and then blame it
on us. Don't get it twisted on code and we
danceing for no buttament biscuits. It's really d your scar
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(00:42):
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you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world in the studio.
Ghetto ghetto ghett old boys sound like a sampling. Yeah,
what's up home? What's going on? Well? Oh man, way
too much? Talk about way too much? Manum you what

(01:04):
you want to start that? Because boys a good one,
you know. I want to start on these youngsters. Man,
I want to start on these youngsters. So you saw
a situation right right, right, youngsters? All right, come on,

(01:25):
you saw the situation that happened with the youngsters ran
up in the mall and came out with all of
Louis Vuitton. Are you serious? I didn't see this a
couple of weeks ago. So the snatch special, yeah yeah, yeah,
he go and he grated Louis take off. The security

(01:46):
guy is just standing that, you know, Littlettle Maybury's security guard.
He's just standing in that top flight just watching everything.
And then when people take off, then he go get
on the walking behind him or whatever. I can't stop you.
But I and one of one of the women who
I think she was an employee, that she called them animals.

(02:10):
She said animals, animals, animals. Um. But you know, I'm
not offended by her saying that though, because they were
they were acting like animals. Yeah, they were acting like animals.
You know, I'm not I'm not offended by that. UM.
I think it's important for us to call a strike
a strike and a ball a ball. You know, it

(02:30):
doesn't matter who it is, it doesn't it doesn't matter
what the uh the skin color is. If you're acting
like an animal, you're acting like an animal. Um, a
lot of people. But I want to say this though,
I saw a lot of people that was just really outraged,
Like I mean, it was a different type of outraged.
It was like, they need to die, we need to die.

(02:53):
They they need to put them on the jai that
was stolen. Yeah. But but well here's my thing, man,
and ye and it's just bad. So imagine being and
put in a situation where they constantly dang on fruit

(03:22):
before your eyes, and every time you reach the grab
of fruit, they pulled away from you. Every time you
that here, you're sitting there and you're starving to death. Man.
But but all those people really started to death. I mean, Willie,
I don't know this situation, man, but I just know this.

(03:43):
I do know this, and I'm not giving nobody, you know,
I'm not giving them a pass for the fun up
ship they did. Man, But god damn, I mean, you
know what fixes all this ship? Right? Opportunity money? You
know what I'm saying. Imagine if everybody had employment that

(04:06):
paid a livable wage. You know what I'm saying, Like, Okay, look,
let's let's let's take you and I for instance, All right,
like we ain't out there robbing and and trying to
take from no fucking body. Why and not only because
we know better, but why we have opportunity and we

(04:29):
got a little little money. Imagine if you don't have
no fucking opportunities and no money, I mean, and and
then I'll give it. Man. Yeah, I can't go night
of our uh pain and self inflicted. You know what

(04:52):
I'm saying, Like a lot of ship that's going on
with us is going on because of us, But we
still got another fifty that helped us to the situation
that we need in the first place. And it just
didn't start with us, and it just didn't start with
our parents, and it just didn't start with our children.
And ship been started. You see what I'm saying. That's

(05:13):
the part that cannot be ignored. See a lot of
times when you say what you just said, I'm sure
there's people in the comments going crazy right now the
man's blah blah blah, and and you started off with
saying that they were wrong, right, the most missed that part.
Promise you they missed that part. You know, all they

(05:37):
heard was and you know, imagine not having opportunities and
blah blah blah. That's all they heard and did you
tell your story with it? So so I broke this
down to me. Man, you got two lions in the
wild living their life, and somebody wants to come along,
and they captured the two lions and they put them
in the cage. And then every day they come by,

(05:59):
and they feeling every day they're coming by, and they
feed them every day, and all of a sudden they
stopped feeding them, and they come by a week or
two later and one of the lines is gone. Do
you blame the line for eating the other line? Or
do you blame the motherfucker who stopped feeding them, who
took them out of the natural habitat and stop feeding them?

(06:22):
Like who's the blame? So are you saying that the
system feel like we're putting a situation. I feel like
we're putting a situation where we have to do ship,
you know, and some people, and like I said, Willie,
some people just do ship out of Uh. They don't
have to do the ship. They don't have to do
what they're doing. But imagine not having any options. I'm

(06:44):
just weighing out the skin where here's the thing. Uh,
I don't I don't believe that are young people that
they don't have options. I think they have more options
than we ever act that. That's so many ways for
young since to make money these days. It's it's crazy.
It's just it blows my mind. Here's the power. Really,
day a new youngster becomes a millionaire because they put

(07:05):
the work in and they hustle. Okay, but what about
the ones that don't know about the you see, it's
it's it's all about informing them of other options, you
know what I'm saying. But I do believe that there
are some that's like that. There are, you know, that
is a certain sector of kids that are like that.
But for the most part, these kids see these other

(07:26):
kids getting money. They see what they're doing. They see
them on their Twitch, they see them on uh YouTube
making videos, you know, they see them, you know, selling
their little water or whatever. They see the other kids hustling.
A lot of them, the motherfucker's just don't want to
put the work in. And that's the bottom line, bro.
A lot of them they're entitled and they don't want

(07:46):
to work. A lot of them just don't want to work.
Let me, let me, let me get let me offer
some some some support. You know to my theory, right,
I lived in Aserbaijan, you know for ten years. I'll
be like, okay, I lived in for ten years. When

(08:08):
if anytime you come to, if you come to as
a brain, right now, if you get off the plane,
I can guarantee you right now. Well, if it's whatever time,
five am, you're gonna see a line of a series
and Russians line in the streets. They got on suits.
The suits are not in great condition, but they have

(08:31):
a sense of pride. They're hanging out the line of
streets like like uh Mexicans, a line of streets in
in in Texas. You know how they how how they
be at the gas stations and stuff, waiting for a job.
But the but but that's the reality, that's their reality.
The reality is they have suits Z one and they're
waiting to get a job, and they're waiting to get

(08:52):
any kind of job, whether it be digging a ditch
or something clerical. Listen to what I'm saying. The point
is when I first moved there, as ib Young was
considered a third world country. Alright, the all brought it,
brought it up to standards, but at that time it
was considered a third world country. However, I lived in

(09:13):
the city of Baku. In Baku, that's Baku is Uh.
Population wise, it's very comparable, comparable to Houston, like somewhere
in the enable five million. Right at the time, four million,
they averaged about at that time, they averaged about one

(09:34):
murder per month at that same time rate around that time,
Houston was averaging about twelve murders a week. Okay, this
place was what. These people were way poor than whatever
we think it's poor in Houston. These people literally, some
of these people literally had dirt floors. I know, I

(09:57):
was that been in some of their houses. They had
dirt floors. They wasn't murdering each other in record numbers
because they didn't have They still got up and went
and bust the ass and dealt played the hand that
they were dealt. Let me tell you something else. One day,
I'm on my way home and we witnessed the fight.

(10:19):
I got my whole family with me and we witnessed
a fight as we're passing by the neighborhood, one of
the neighborhoods, and I tell I asked the driver, I said,
say man, I said, what's going on? And uh, you know,
he said, I don't know. I don't let you note.
So he dropped us off. He go back and investigate.
He comes back and say, okay, So the guy beat

(10:41):
up his girlfriend, and then so the people in the
neighborhood beat him up. So we saw the whole neighborhood
whipping this dude ass. The dude beat up his girlfriend,
the whole neighborhood was whipping his ass. Look he's with
throwing rocks at him. Uh. Men and teenage boys was
punching them and kicking them. Old ladies, old sitting there.

(11:04):
Some ladies had it is something. Old ladies had broomstick
handles and hitting his ass in slow motion like this. Look, well,
I'm not gonna hitting his ass and slow motion. The
pointy is that they have a sense, they have pride,
and they have a sense of dignity, right, and they

(11:25):
respect one another. They respect one another. But at the
same time, they don't have the culture that we have,
the media that we have that drives every day a day,
every day, all day that you gotta have this stuff
or you ain't nobody. Do you agree that we've been
stripped of our Uh, we we've been stripped to all

(11:48):
of that like we don't have a sense of pride, Broun.
When you when you get to that point, you know,
is that when that struggle getting real, you have a
sense of prise. Right I do. But but but I'm different. Okay,

(12:09):
well that's but you're different. But it's a lot of
us that are this situation. A lot of us different,
and a lot of our situations are different. You see,
and and now and there are people who don't have
what you and I have do who still have pride.
Remember before I agree with that, remember before we got
to talking about kids. Remember remember remember before we got

(12:29):
we weren't always adults were at some point we were kids,
And at some point we got a sense surprise because
we we we wanted to have more in life and
we wanted to get to a point of where example
we had example. But there's always been examples, bro where
there's always been examples. Look around if they hadn't a man,
because I want to never known that ship exists? Was

(12:51):
that an example? You know? There's always an example like
here's here's this day I didn't co J Prince. If
I would have never seen that ship, I would have
never knew that was possible. We'll look here. So you
so you did you have television and some ship that
you had to stick fucking up cold hangers and put

(13:12):
fall on the wire? Did you did you did you
see something? Did you see some examples of people having
the ship that you wanted? I saw the prices, right,
I saw the stories, and then we went outside. I
saw cartoons and I saw the news. I didn't really
see you know, I wasn't watching Dynasty. But you're saying
that you needed you needed to see it in the

(13:34):
physical form. I saw the ship. You needed to see
it in the physical So when you saw the physical
for farm, you knew it was reach. I knew. I
knew it was an attainable Okay, we'll check this out.
Uh I will I will argue that, will you sign?
I will argue that that's funny? Uh I argue I

(13:56):
would argue that today. I would argue that today the
kids see more than you and I ever did check
this out. Check this out when I was when I
was uh at ten years old, I started cutting grass
with my with my with my godfather, not by myself.
Go ahead, I was cutting grass in river oaks and

(14:17):
Memorial and and braids. Would right now, I used to
be pushing those lawnmows, and I would look through the windows,
not peep, just look glance through the windows, and I
would see these hot homes. They were prestine, the beds
were made, the floor floors clean, everything was neatly. Willie,

(14:37):
that's white people. Will hold on. That was that was
that was mostly white people. Yeah, but go ahead, but
you don't know, you don't. You don't have to you
don't have to see. I didn't. I didn't have to
see a black person doing it. But that's you. You
know what I'm saying, like, you can't. You can't put
that on everybody. I'm not putting on I'm putting it
on me. I saw that. I saw I saw people
living the life, the lifestyle that I wanted, and I

(15:00):
went after it when I saw it. When I was
when I was had that fucking glance around my neck
and I'm riding and I'm pushing and I'm where and
I'm all fucking I'm pushing this down low on, working
my ass out, and I hit the backyard and this cat,
this chick is just laid back by the pool sipping lemonade.

(15:20):
I was like, I want that ship. I want that
and I'm gonna get it. Right, I was like, I
want that, and I'm gonna get it. And I went
and got it, and I knew it wasn't gonna pop
up magically for me. I knew I was gonna have
to go out there and go get it. So, well,
you being older than me, right, so, but but much
older than well. You know I'm I'm older than you.

(15:45):
I've been the most ship. But listen, you know that's
your that's your fault. That's your fault. So if me
my my my thinking is, Okay, I see a bigger
ass house and I go to the backyard congrass, and
I see a white woman laying out. You know that's
a that's that's different from me. I don't think I

(16:06):
saw a white Why was that different? Because it wasn't black.
And I ain't never seen no white folk before. But
you ain't never seen no white people. I ain't. Man,
let me when I'm dead, as fucking serious. I think
I don't have been eight or nine years old before
I saw a white person in person. So you never

(16:27):
went to like a grocery store outside of the hood
and nothing like that. You never went to when I started.
When I. Well, I may have seen white people when
I was, you know, going through my ass when his ship,
but I don't remember none of that ship. My first
recollection of a white person when I was when we
moved from from South Acres over on Stellar Link. That's

(16:48):
when I started seeing the mixture of Chinese Cambodians grass
over the Sell Link. Also, yeah, that that's a Jewish community,
so it was a lot of money in there. Now,
I feel you, but I'm talking about the apartments on
Link Valley, so that that's everything you saw. Cambodian, you
saw Vieting, Themese, Chinese, and my first time seeing uh,
Cambodians and Vietnamese and Chinese. That's the first time I've

(17:10):
seen that ship, right, Um. And then I had a friend,
white friend. His name was David Cochrane and I haven't
seen him since we was cheated. But that was my dog,
you know, we we we we we didn't know the
difference you know between at that time probably about eight
or nine. Okay, and where is David? Now? I have

(17:31):
not seen David in years, and I just got a
true friend. He wasn't he was definitely a true friend. No,
he wasn't a true friend man that that ship will
Willie David moved back to that Fort Worth of some ship.
Clifford David, have you got your ears on? Man? Contact
me on Facebook. Okay, you know what I'm saying. That said,

(17:54):
I made that connection. Just not man, re uniting old friends,
don't get But we never looked at people like we
wasn't supposed to be around them, you know what I mean.
We all played football together, you know, we all uh
fought together, and and and and roller skated together. Man.

(18:14):
But that was our life. We never dreamed or imagined
having life outside of our little circle. Really liked. It
was us and then it was it was it was
you know. My mom used to call us middle class
when we when we when? When? When? When she moved
with my father, Um, but my stepfather, but I called

(18:37):
my father, so let's just say my father. So they
were making the combined income of some decent money. So
we had a cool apartment, man. And then they eventually
bought a hot well and eventually rented a house, and
they eventually bought one. But it was always in the
It was always in that line of just regular people,

(18:58):
you know. And I I never got a chance to
see oh shit. You know, even even when rap first started,
you know, we never thought of I didn't never think
about the big houses, in the in the nice cars
and ship you know. I always thought the gold rope
and the fucking uh. You know, I thought that symbolized

(19:19):
success when I was coming up. So had it not
been for what I've been through or what I saw,
I would have never ever took that next step to
get to that level because I would have never known
that it was attainable had I not seen it right here.
And I can, I can. I can understand that because

(19:39):
but I just wasn't that type of dude. I always
felt like if if a human could do what I
could do, it, it didn't matter to me if they
was white, black, whatever. If I saw another human being
was able to do. If I saw a human being flying,
I swear to God our mother can try to fly
without any type of wings or no type of mechanical device.
I try that ship man, because I just feel like

(19:59):
I can do any thing the next person can do.
I just I don't believe that that that another man
is better than me, and I don't believe. I never
believe that, well, I don't believe I don't. I believe
that too. Everything is attainable. But I had to chase
the blood. Now I get you, because there are some
people that have to see. There are some black people

(20:21):
that have to see black people do, just like there
are some Hispanis people that got to see a Hispani
person do it before they believe it's possible. You know,
I get that, I I do. I do. I really
do get that. But do you know when they really
fucked us, Willie? They really fucked us coming out of
high school with these trades, with the certificates that made
us a license to that that that allowed us to

(20:44):
be licensed plumbers or license electricians, or carpenters or ship
like that, metal shop workers. They sucked us because they
took that out of the schools, knowing that we did
a lot of work with our hands. Do you remember,
I don't know if you had uncles, but well I
know your head uncles. But you know my uncle's worked
like uh with construction companies and ship man with my

(21:06):
grandfather when he was a plumber, and they would get
up in the morning and they would go do their
plumber and ship and my uncle Eddie, he would play
the base on all my ship. Hey, my fucker would
come home full of cement. But every fucking weekend. Man,
he had a big ass bank roll. Bro and and
and nowadays, I don't see no black people where I
see a couple now. But I didn't see for a
long as time. I didn't see no black people on

(21:28):
the side of the road. For a long as time.
I didn't see no black people doing electricity, doing plumber.
When when I built my fucking house, bro, all I
saw was Hispanic people working on that house. And I
didn't know. I didn't. You know, my mindset is not
like it is today. You know, like it's if I

(21:50):
put my money up and we have to hire contractors,
then then we have to hire black people. We have
to because that's the only way we gonna be able
to come up. We gotta employ each other in these situations, man,
that open up for us. Man, otherwise we're gonna stay
We're gonna stay on the bottom. Bro. Man, do you
know I just got my boy David Cole, and Uh,

(22:12):
I love David Cole. I've been knowing David Cole a
long motherfucking time. Bright David Cole. Uh sent me a
reference today for a black roofer. Uh, I just had
to hire somebody today. Shout out to Johnny Hollands J J.
Hollands builders contact him there you got bad motherfucking black boys.

(22:34):
Remote podcast will be right back after the poet. I
just started UH foundation. And my mom's name, my mom's
name is Marvelous. And I started the foundation to bridge
the gap between the young and old, the rich, poor,

(22:56):
the hopeless and the hopeful. So it's calm a marvelous bridge.
And one of the things that we're doing. One of
the things that we're doing UH is we are bringing
back vocational courses for the young people. You know, so
fourteen year olds, by the time they start high school,

(23:17):
before they can start getting in their brain that they're
gonna run the streets, before the streets start getting to them,
they already learned in the trade, and they already know
they got out early on, they got out. So we're
teaching them h VAT. We're talking about payton, welding, plumbing,
all of that, and and in addition to that, investing

(23:39):
in real estate, UH, your favorite cryptocurrency and and and
and um and then UH in the stocks and then
on the flip side of that, the elderly. We're sending
them out on outings, you know, monthly outings. Then we're
gonna eventually get down the weekly weekly outings. Uh, getting
them off the porch, getting them off the uh, off

(24:00):
the you know, out of that room, out of that
convalescent house or whatever, out of that convalescence facility. You know, uh,
what they did, and that's what and that's what it's about,
because what I with our the contributions of our elderly.
You know, we have no wetter stuff. We can complain

(24:21):
all we want about the conditions today and how you know,
what they didn't do right and all that kind of ship.
But they did a lot of things. But they did
a lot of things right, and we wouldn't we wouldn't
be in a position that way, and we wouldn't have
the opportunities that we have without our eldest. You know.
What's why it's important to me that I'm just saying
that's why it was, and I think it's brilliant. You know,

(24:42):
you know, how we fucked up like the people that
came up after our parents came up, Like like how
they came up, we came up. We came up, Willie,
you know, I mean, like we came up and the
first thing that pops into our head is, man, I'm
gonna do this for my kids so they don't have
to go through the ship that we went through. To

(25:04):
some kids, that was a blessing, but to other kids
that was a fucking curse. Because the kids that grasped
it and took advantage of it, you know, flourished, they
prospered from it. But the kids that felt um entitled,

(25:27):
or or or or let's just even fucking say down
right spoiled, it didn't work out too well. It's not
gonna work out too well for them. Where it's okay
to small kids, but when they get it's okay to
spark them, just don't spoil them riding. And that's where
I think some of us we we we missed the

(25:49):
mark at And that's a very fine line, because look, man,
it's not it's not like math. It's not like two
plus two weeks four. You know, it's not the same.
You don't get the same results every single time. You know,
if you do this, you this happened to do this
is that some kids, no matter what you do, no
matter what you're instilling them, they're not gonna get it.
Some kids, you can give them that access, and you

(26:09):
can give give them those options, and you can teach
them to family business and they'll take it to the
next level. Perfect example. Some other other kids will take
it and they'll they'll blow the whole bag, blow the
whole fucking bag, perfect example. Bro. Like, I know for
a fact that I didn't learn how to be a
dad until a few years ago because my children taught me.
My boys taught me how to be a father. Right. Um,

(26:33):
I taught Chris how to fish. Many I gave him
a hustle and him being out on the road with
me being my tour manager. Now he manages other people's
tours and now he's going on other people tours and

(26:54):
he's getting sucking money, Willie. You see what I'm saying.
Like I gave him something out to Chris, Chris, Chris,
Chris gave me and Kinney, and I taught Chris how
to fish, you know two. And I'm so fucking proud
of him, dude, Like he is actually on his fucking business.

(27:15):
Like you know how it is when Chris come out
on the road with us and he takes care of
every fucking thing on that he's doing that for other
artists outside his dad, you know what I mean? So
I think that's fucking dope, man. You know, you know Chris,
Chris has always been, you know, one of my favorites, man,
one of your favorite people here. Yeah, we did good man.
How did you hear? Did Chris come from you? Though?
I don't know? Damn that, Chris says Chris Chris of

(27:40):
Cole Dude shout out to Chris Jordan's Hey, donate to
the Chris Jordan Quality of Life Foundation Foundation. To man,
y'all check him out. He's doing big things. But for
um donnor awareness, you know, don'tor awareness like we ain't
gonna be like when you die, you can't take it.
What you remember that saying we can't take this ship

(28:01):
with it either, So you might as well give it
to somebody else to say they like so they can
enjoy it. Oh yeah, no, no, I can dig it.
I can dig it. Did you watch the Dorma movie?
I did, Willie? God damn it? What did the fuck? Bro?
What the fuck? And the whole time I'm sitting there,

(28:23):
uh watching this guy, I'm like, man, what in the fuck,
what in the fuck do you remember when we went
on tour in nineteen one, we went over there to
the fucking house though, to the apartment. We went to
those apartments, man, and I was scared as fun. Even

(28:45):
though he was already in jail. They popped him in.
They popped him and we had a tour that shot
through Milwaukee and it was me, you Adamo a bill
or something. We all went come back there. It was
all cool. Asfore we stopped being cool. We was all cool.

(29:07):
We did everything together back then, y'all. But we went
over Jeffrey Dahmer's to where all the ship took place,
and Willie when I had the opportunity to really learn
what happened, Like this motherfucker was psycho like, like a
real lives psycho. That we were within seconds of being

(29:33):
where he was, you know what I mean, Like we
was there, we pulled up on the curb and seeing
the apartments he was cutting off heads and and and
sawing bodies up and throwing him and and ascid and wow,
the fact that he got away with it for so long,
and with all of those warnings, you know, the police

(29:55):
would warn they were warned about this guy. You know,
the next storey neighbor. It's documented, she's on records, and
it's something not right. You know, this guy's I'm hearing
it's a fight going on. It's it's guy just attacked.
This guy. Guy just came across left his left out
of his house but naked. Uh, he's investigating something going on.

(30:17):
Are you sure that they well, ch well, he said
it was his boyfriend and he's just drunk. He said, no,
he didn't look like you didn't look a man. You
look like a little kid. No, he's no, no, no, no,
he's grown. No. Are you sure? She's like, are you sure?
You know? I don't have the name of that lady
and the niece and uh the niece. Uh no no, no,

(30:43):
I'm saying the n the niece and the uh the aunt.
They were very diligent about, uh, informing the police that
it was something not right about Dharma and you know,
he was actually committing crimes and they was telling the police,
but the police kept giving him a pass. They even
came into his house. And you know, if we are

(31:07):
to believe the accounts from the from the documentary or
the film the series, there's a point when the police
come in and say you mind if I look around,
he's uh. And he walks in and he just looks
into the room. He peeps into the room. He don't
walk around actually look around. He just peeps into the room. Say, man,

(31:29):
let me tell you something. Milwaukee Police, every single person
who was involved at that time, who got a call,
who who went out there to check on on that
or who hung that phone up, who ignored those please
from those neighbors, every last one of their ass and
should be locked up. They should never be allowed to

(31:52):
work in law enforcement again. Do you know that that
primary job is to keep the public safe. That's the job.
And they failed the citizens of Milwaukee miserably. It was horrible. Man,
I'm sitting but watching this like this is common sense. Man,
this is this is common sense. This is on a
rudimentary level. You don't have to be you don't have

(32:14):
to be brilliant to figure this shit out. You pull
up on a kid that's naked, and he's he's shivering,
and and and and they're telling you that this guy
is being chased a by this other guy. And he's
telling you they're trying to he's trying to kill me.
He's trying to hurt hurt me. This guy walks up
and say, uh, yeah, that's my boyfriend. He's just drunk,

(32:38):
and your dumbass believe him. Fam The Dama movie demonstrated,
it demonstrates its negligence, yes, but it also demonstrated how
white privileged disarms the police. God damn it, Willie, that

(33:02):
is nothing. But that was nothing but white privilege and
left that little boy would have been white and the
other you know, you know, yeah, if if if the
little boy had been white and the suspect or dahmer
had been you know, other, what was the kid? What

(33:23):
was he Indiana or something like that maybe, But I'm
just saying Willie, like it was all non white victims.
And he said that he chose the uh, he chose
his victims by how attracted he was to them. Okay,
so everdently he is not. He was not attractive attracted

(33:47):
to white people. Did you see that part? Like he
he chose the men that he would was attracted to
watch it when he when they're interrogating him about it,
like he didn't. He didn't he picked on he picked
up Asian black. I think he chose those victims because
they were soft targets. Well, I'm just saying what he

(34:08):
knew he could get away. He could. He knew that
he could get away, and nobody would care, or at
least at least the police. When nobody wouldn't they just man,
they had uh signs up looking for these people by
his apartment when he just be walking by, you know,
and he knew he well, he this sick funck kept
the identification cards and driver's license of his victims. Imagine

(34:33):
how many times that line he used have been used
by other predators. I bet you they got some types.
That's my barfriend, he's drunk, So put a put a
female in position, and it would be like, that's my girlfriend,
she's drunk. That ain't gonna work. But that's what I'm
saying is that if that had been a female, he

(34:53):
could have used that same life too. He could tell
the police that same thing if that had been a female.
Imagine how many times that's been used all over the
United States. Oh and uh the UK too, Let's not
forget the UK. The UK operated very similar to to
to America's way that they're allowed to get away with crimes. Wow, yeah,

(35:17):
that's cold bloody man, dude, Dude, that smell and what
what about the people who owned the apartment building. They
had a they had an obligation to keep that complex
safe also, and they had that that smell everybody talked
about smell. Was you ever smell death? You know? God? Damn,

(35:45):
bro that that you it's you can't never get that
out of your nostrils. It takes forever to get that
smell out of your nostrils. Bro, the smell of death,
Oh my god. And that lady was smelling and for
weeks and weeks and months at a time. But are
you seeing how they're trying to humanize him. Oh? You know,

(36:06):
he had a tough nat a childhood. His mom and
daddy used to argue, and his daddy taught him how
to side sect uh animals. And you know, it's his
dad's fault, is his mom's fault. They're trying to put
the fault on the mom and the daddy instead of
just saying, you know, he's just a fucked up wicked mother.

(36:29):
You know what I'm saying, the dude just wicked. He's
a we're just wicked, just wicked person, just a wicked person.
And and ain't and nothing short of that. Was trying
to but they're trying to paint the narrative that this
guy it's somehow himself a victim. I disagree. We see

(36:52):
what y'all doing, producers, and it ain't Workings will be
right back back it. Let's switch kids. Did you see that.
Let's switch lads. Did you see the the little kid

(37:16):
get get get tackled real heart, and the mama started
chasing after the other kids. Where did this happen? I
don't remember where, but a little kid got tackled by
another little kid and the mom was chasing the tackle it, yeah,
pulling up what happened? Uh? They man? Well, from what

(37:37):
I hear, they suspended the kid and the mom from
the league exactly. All your parents out there. If your
kid can't cut it, get him off the field, get
him off the basketball court, get him out of that.
Your kids ain't got no business being on the court.
If you can't conduct yourself as a civilized bystander, civilized

(38:01):
civilized by stand fan, whatever. Man, you you you know
these parents they have made Little League sports horrible and dangerous.
It's the parents. It's the parents, man. And then when
you see when the kids see the parents acting to
damned food, then what they do. They start acting to

(38:26):
damn food. It's cool act of damn food exactly. Yeah,
you know, so it's sad, bro that you got to
have cops at Little League games. And let me tell
you something, man, these games. We already know how hard
it is to raise funds for for these Little League
teams already that are in the hood, right, We already

(38:48):
know how hard it is just to get equipment and
stuff for these kids. And now you got to spend
this extra money that you could actually use for equipment
or to feed these kids. Two, how your police officers,
These damn cops cost two or three dars you know,
a date. They fifty dollars a game, no, not yeah,

(39:13):
that couple hundred bucks a day. I'm thinking, yeah, but
I've been coaching um football for a long time, literally
football for a long as time. But yeah, it's expensive, man,
And you know, you you you you you're coaching these
undeserved communities and they still on that and they're still
with the ships, you know what I mean, the cousins,

(39:34):
the uncles and the daddies and the mamas, they with
the ships. Man. If y'all know, y'all's struggling for money
already first and fore most, even if you're not struggling
for money. Yeah, it's your job to make sure that
these have these kids have a safe place to play sports,

(39:56):
make sure that they're saying there in a safe environment.
As a parent, as a coach, that is your job,
first and foremost. It ain't about you anybody, how you feel.
You know, even if you feel like you got a
bad call, even if you feel like a kid was
a little too rough with your kid, you need to
bite your tongue and you need to say, you know what, man,

(40:17):
I'll deal with this opticle. We'll deal with this later.
I'll talked to the coach about it or whatever. But
that ain't hot, that ain't high. Go man, y'all. Some
of your parents out there, y'all setting horrible examples for
your children. And then you wonder why your kid end
up with a wild cutting his chest laying on the table.

(40:39):
You wonder why they end up in prison. I wonder
why they end up in jail, your parents. It starts
at home. A lot of your parents, man, y'all filed
and y'all need to be called out. Ain't nothing cool
about it. While when I went to a game, just
recently broke. I had to take my pistol because I

(41:00):
didn't know what they expect. I never I never felt
that way before going to a little league game. You
can't say exactly. I'm yeah, I was in the Houston Man,
but I took my gun because I didn't know what
they expect. I made sure I was totally strapped because
I and and guess what, towards the end of the game,

(41:21):
they didn't start fighting, but these new kids who was playing,
they launce. They was talking ship two parents. So the
coaches they're not controlling them. The parents are not controlling here.
Most of the parents don't even show up for the games.

(41:41):
But let one of them little basses make it to
the NFL or something. They're gonna that's my baby, that's
my baby. They're gonna be there, and the whole family
gonna be there exactly. And when I say a little
bast I mean a little bad ones. You know what
I'm saying. You're talking about the good kids, and a
lot of good kids out that, but the little bad
ones ass need to be called out, just like their
parents need to be call a lot. We don't need
to be handling handling them with kids gloves. Man, these

(42:05):
kids and their parents, they're making it very difficult to
even have Little League sports man, Think about what's what
I'm saying? We don't have that ship in baseball though?
All right? Why not? I mean should you know? I
haven't seen it? No, I haven't. I haven't been seen
having baseball. Yeah. What about what happened in Philadelphia with

(42:27):
the kids getting off of football scrimmage and you see
it's like, yeah, the uh who didn't shoot? Shooting? Yeah? Whoo?
Who did the shooting? Was there? Some adults? Who was there?
Some kids with some random ship? And what the fun?
I'm not sure? But who the hell bens the corner
on fourteen year olds? You know? Who does that? Bro?

(42:52):
Like these kids at least trying to do something, you know,
they at least trying to do something positive. It was
playing us a grammage game and they were walking walking
away from the field and somebody pulled up. They said
they either did a drive ball, they got out of
the car and started shooting. At least one kid was killed.

(43:14):
At least he was killed. Killed, He was killed. Fourteen
year old was killed killed. I thought he was a
c U dad. He didn't make motherfuck me. Man. Wow, yeah,
that's what happened. So you know what the trip part

(43:35):
about it is, man, is that it's like the youngsters
really could make a lot of difference for their own
for themselves. Like pit pressure still works both ways. It
works on the negative side and it works on the

(43:55):
father side. If the youngster just started saying, look, man,
this is what we're doing. And when they see one
of that one of the appears doing something wild, that's
something weird, they say, man, we don't do that. We
don't get out like that, like like like somebody, somebody
got to have the courage to stand up and stand
on something and say, now, we're not doing that. Because

(44:18):
you do that, you're gonna make all of us look bad.
Or you do that, you're gonna put heat on all
of us. It's time for the youngsters really to step
up and and start policing themselves, because you know, the
alternative don't look too good. Brother, I've got my own
version of scared straight, Willie. I had my own version

(44:38):
of scared straight. So man, man, you you should be
able to uh get these parents to sign off um
with these troubled kids and have them to be able
to come to my fucking I don't even gonna call
it scared straight. I just want to call it like
a reality check. Come get on the bus with me.

(44:59):
Let me tell make you into this um uh jail
facility so you see what it's like in jail for
about three or four days. You know what, you have
to dress out or you have to eat that slop.
I ain't talking about the old lads. I'm talking about
kids just funked up, like this is where you heard it.
I think that for most of the kids that are
like that, they're not gonna get it. They still stay

(45:22):
well because I let me finish. You know, you're not.
We're not gonna put them in the same sale with
each other so they can playing ship. We'll put them
in the shoe. You know what I'm saying. You know,
I still believe that most of them will not get
that piece, you know, like once you get there, Like
when I got to that point, you couldn't scare me,
bro I wasn't trying to scare you know. I know

(45:43):
what we all though. At the end of that state,
when you get ready, before you dress back out, you're
going that fucking morgue. You walked there and through that Morgan,
you know what I'm seeing me because I've been fucking
can pop up out the goddamn floor right now. They
wouldn't scare you, Bro, I'm just saying I'm talking about
I'm talking about a fucking ten year old through through fourteen,

(46:05):
sixteen years old. I want you know what I mean, Like,
that's a scary straight ten year old to that man. Bro.
If if they have I mean you got sometimes. I
mean sometimes the truth is traumatic at least traumatic. You know,
it's a fund up ship to do or some ship
the same man. But we're gonna have to get some order.
We're gonna have to get some order or we're gonna

(46:27):
be extinct like dinosaurs. Bro, We're gonna be extinct like
the buffalo. You know, the youngsters really are. They are
killing the hope of the youngsters, bro, because think about it.
Think about this, when when when we were doing our thing,
we were coming up, we were spying rappers or whatever.
We looked at rappers our way out. We was like, man,

(46:47):
once I get that, I get that, I got it.
I made it out well now and in front of
and and once you made it, you know pretty much
you were okay, you know, you until you had to
park in the big city situation, it was okay. But then,
but now you have every week a rapper dropping, you know,

(47:08):
and the youngsters are looking at this. Then they got
all that money, they got all that success, and they're
still getting killed. So so what is my incentive to
aspire to do the right thing, to aspire to come up,
to aspire to make it out? What is my incentive?
I'm gonna get killed anyway. The young they're killing that,
they're killing the hopes of their own peers, their own generation.

(47:31):
That they are killing their hopes. We learned, we learned
this ship like it was a business though, you remember,
like we we looked at this ship like this was
gonna this is gonna be able to provide for our families,
you know, being able to get your mama house and
and being able to rebuild your grandmother's house and helping
everybody else. So you got up in the morning and

(47:53):
you came to the hood, and you stayed in the
hood for as long as you wanted to because you
was a real life ghetto boy. I was a real
live get a boy. I'm in my neighborhood. But when
it's time to go. I'm going home. You know what
I mean. I'm not I'm not gonna get off into
No I'm not gonna let you get into no ship

(48:13):
behind some ship that I'm doing. Here's the thing, man,
When you when you are putting a leadership position, man,
you become a leader. And I feel like now I
know for a fact that when ship changed for me
and I had to start making decisions for the people
that that was around me, I can't I became a leader.
I learned how to lead. And me being a leader

(48:35):
and knowing how to lead, I wouldn't want to put
the people around me in a funked up situation, bro,
because I know how tough it is. It's easy to
getting in this ship man. Man, what was that saying? Man? Uh?
The homie broke it down to me, man, he said, um,
he said, uh, hey, that's a little dude. And Jay say, man,

(48:56):
how long you got he said, he I got seventy
five years. And he's saying, well, how long did it
take for you to do what you did? Five minutes?
Three minutes. There ain't no fags change, bro, there ain't
no even he changed five minutes for seventy five years,

(49:19):
five minutes and you got thirty years. That's that ship.
Ain't weighing out, bro, when you get your money. And
this is for all the youngsters that listen, uh, And
this is for all the old people that's in contact
with the young people that need to listen. Man. Like
when you become when you when when you get wiser

(49:41):
and become the leader than everybody, look up to make
sure that you're leading your troops in the right direction,
you know, bring them up to your level, you know
what I mean. Ain't nobody standing over nobody like like.
And that was our thing really when when when we
got when we got off the bucket, we reached out
handing poor motherfuckers with us. We showed people how to hustle, man.

(50:03):
We showed people how to get their money and how
to get themselves out of the situation that they was in.
So all of the old jes the old Jesus out
there to speak to these youngsters man, to speak to
the youth. Man. When these youths, when the youth becomes leaders,
teach them how to lead and make sure that they
lead properly, because we don't want these kids, uh leading

(50:29):
fucking uh malicious. M hmm, you know what I mean,
like lead them in the direction where they can be
something in life instead of being being fucking uh felons. Yeah,
what do you think about dude who called some of
the old rappers dusty and in for context, he was

(50:53):
talking about how the rappers back in the Gap did
not proply prepare today's generation of rappers business wise, and well,
that's that's what he said. Then he went on to
say that, hey, you know you, you know, you said

(51:14):
you invented this thing. I don't know, you know, you're
looking kind of dusty. What do you mean like dusty?
What I mean? I mean, you're like, I ain't got it,
you know, looking broke basically, you know, calling these guys
who are the ponteers of this thing broke. So so
let me say this, So so growing up where I

(51:37):
grew up, grow up where you grew up. You know,
like if you had it, you never told nobody you
had it, you know what I'm saying, Like that was
just a cardinal rule in the streets. Man, If you
you you you were the part. You didn't have to
look the fucking part. Like what what what makes him look?
What makes a person, look like that. Here, here's here's

(52:01):
the perfect fucking example. Look at Russell Simmons and and
look at one of these little kids with all of
this ship on all right, look at L L COO
J and look at all of these little kids. And
look at Iced Tea and look at all these kids up.
But look at Ice Cube and look at all these

(52:22):
little kids with all this ship and these roles. Isn't
doing this ship? But look at Willie d all right,
look at me. I'm just motherfucker. I played golf every day. Okay.
So whoever said that had had, he has no um.
He has no respect for this culture because it had

(52:45):
because had it not been for those um originators providing
the ground for me to stand on? All right? And
and and today I reached out to Chuck. I reached
out the Cube, reached out to l L. I reached
out to jay Z and a couple of more motherfucker's
like like thanking them for for for for letting me be,

(53:08):
let me be a part of this ship. You know
what I mean, for laying it down for me. You
know what I mean, because had it not been for Cube,
but l A Chuck, a big daddy cane. I got
hit cane, damn. But but but you know what I mean,
Like I'm gonna hip hop hybrid, I'm I'm I'm Kane
chucking cube mixed up in one cat, you know what
I mean. Like, So for somebody to say that we

(53:35):
we we were dusty and we didn't teach uh the
youth business, that's a lie because I saw n w
a uh doing uh tours and getting money and putting
money in other places. Early I've seen, you know, Iced
team started the dreams. Iced Tea was living up in

(53:57):
the Hollywood Hills and a badass motherfucker where we tractable
goddamn roof, you know with the pool. He the first
one I've seen. What the fucking uh are you finding
his board? His house called the Dope House. I see
you remember this ship. But what I think what he's
saying is that he's not saying what you had and
what you did business wise for yourself. He said, did

(54:18):
you pass that information along? Did you actually who pulled
somebody to the side and say this is how you
do it? Did you put another rapper to the side
and say this is how you do it? What other
rapper could we have pulled to the side. What other
rapper do you know that's of that of that aging era.
You know, if we had questions, we asked Willie, ain't

(54:41):
nobody just say come in, little Nicla, let me give
you something. Your motherfucker ear right, That's what I'm going
with that. Yeah, like a motherfucker just came. Like I don't.
I don't know these little kids, man, but I swear
the goodness, I swear to goodness if one of those
little kids asked me for for for something, for some information,
you know, to help them, and I would give them
what I know, all right. I don't want nobody to

(55:04):
to walk around here and say some ship out the
mouth like like like like we ain't did ship because
at any time, hold on, let me finish. Any time
I called Q because Q got me on my merch
game hardest fuck here recently. But I would call Cube
and talk to him about merch or talk to him
about the screen behind the State gave me the game,

(55:27):
so sharing, so so the generation before gave me game. Period.
Go ahead, No, that's that's a good point because if
you look at any industry any well, let's just stick.
Let's stick with music. If you look at any genre.
Michael Jackson and Pool uh then didn't do a course

(55:50):
on the music industry. Prince didn't do a course. Stevie
Wanted didn't do a course, chriscy Jones didn't do a course.
Uh and Ship uh under the Rolling Stone members did
of course the Beatles didn't do a course. But I'm sure,
of course that if somebody came in them, like you said,
and said, yo, you know, um, this is what uh

(56:14):
you should be doing. You know what I'm saying. If
somebody came in and said, yo, you know for advice,
I'm sure that if they if they wanted to that
information up, they gain it information up and also you.
And then you got to also remember this, a lot
of times people don't want to hear ship. You got
to say in the first place. So if if if

(56:36):
a lot of people don't even believe in unsolicited advice,
unsolicited advice like yeah, if you ain't, if they ain't
asking you, man, I don't care. You know they're not
they're not listening listen the ship. A lot of the
youngsters won't even listen to you when you tell them,
don't pick up that gun, don't pick up that package.
They won't even listen to that. What happened? Tell tell

(56:58):
them about their business about busines. This realie. Here have
you seen the guy on YouTube with the gold teeth
in his mouth? Hey, the nicka pool is good like
you saying this that fuck it? Just this, that fuck it?
He said, every time, every time you do you you
we think that kid. Goddamn uh he saying this is

(57:22):
that fuck it? And yeah, you think the mother see
your ship and make it look tough and bad and ship.
But I say it's that fuck it. I call it
that fuck it says fuck my kids, fuck some pussy. Huh,
fuck my summers. I thought that ship was dope. That
ship was so fucking dope. It's called that fuck it.
It's that fuck it. It's that fucking make you thank
you're looking hard in the motherfucker when this fuck my summer. Yeah,

(57:46):
funck my everything. That's what comes behind And Mama, my pu,
my kids, fun all that ship say, they're saying fun.
I call it that fuck it my freedom. That's what
you're saying, my life. And you got a chance, man,
But everybody, make that ship go viral. That ship deserves
to go viral, man. And even to this day man,

(58:08):
I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm older, you know what
I mean. And I am not no way trying to
figure this ship out by myself. So I asked a
lot of questions, okay, And and I know that I
know how how well virtue are cryptocurrency. So I'll say, Willie,
you know what I'm saying. And I Holliday j all

(58:29):
the time because I got questions, my niggers, and and
and and and and excuse me any word, y'all, I
call it we all kings, man, But I got questions,
my guy. And even in the Bible that says a
wise man seek many counsel. Oh yeah, but you know what,
I'm glad you mentioned Jay because in the past, when

(58:49):
I started getting my money, I didn't see counsel from Jake.
God damn. I just went and did it. When I
went to buy some marvel, I just bought the marble.
You know. When I wanted to buy a house, I
just bought the house by pool, I just bought the pool. Oh,
I just did it. And you know, and this is
me with my my male ego. A lot of times

(59:10):
men get money and we want to spend our money
we want to do what we want to do because
it's our money, we earned it, and we feel like
going to another man for advice about manly type ship.
You know, it's somehow some sucker ship or whatever. But
but that was in my head between my ears, and
so I made a whole lot of mistakes early on

(59:31):
with money, you know, like I blew the bag two
or three times before I secured the bag. Right. So, uh,
but she a few months ago, I'm about to make
a big purchase. Guess what I call say, Jay, Look here, man,
what I'm saying sucking around? Shot around and let me
send me let me finish that arrogance, That lack of

(59:56):
seeking counsel from other men and other men who have
already been when you're trying to go, are done what
you've already are you trying to do? Is the reason
why men make so many mistakes. Women before they will
make they're gonna call six or seven of them their girls,
and at the end of the day, they may not

(01:00:17):
follow none of the advice, but at least they're gonna
have it. They're gonna they're gonna have the different options
before they pickna pick one. They're gonna at least talk
to their girls about it. They're gonna seek counsel from
their girls, from their tribe. They're gonna see council. Man.
And and before we go, Willie, I gotta get you
another uh Jay's story. Man. I remember when um Jay

(01:00:44):
had took me to the new ranch, right, and I
was probably twenty seven. I was younger than I was,
way younger than that. It's probably twenty five. And man,
I couldn't wait to show ja the house that I
had built. I could not wait. I couldn't wait. Send

(01:01:06):
me two hundred square feet marble flows double dos like
on the lake. Damn. So I said, ye'all want you
to check something out, right, you man? We rolled up
to the spot. Man, pull up in the driveway. I
think I know. We walked through the house. Man, I
was like, yeah, I'll putting the studio here. It's the

(01:01:27):
movie theater. There's so and so, so and so, this
this is this and this is that. And we got
outside and little Niking stuid that they say, you know
I do this ship. I said, I like it. I
love it. But it said, man, you missed the point.

(01:01:47):
It wasn't about the house. That was what I was
showing you it was the land. Oh y'all hear that
about the house. It's the lead a thousand acres. Yeah,

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I'm impressed by this big ass house. But it wasn't
about the house, Willie. It was about what the house
was sitting on. Shout out to Jake, shout out. I'm
on talk later by. This episode was produced by A
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