ESPN's Sean Farnham & Texas Volleyball National Champs Logan Eggleston & Asjia O'Neal

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The following is a presentation of the College Athletes Network.
What's up, everybody? Welcome in to episode seven of the
Give Me Timmy Podcast on the College Athletes Network. We're
here on I Heart Radio and man, what a freaking week.
First and foremost, as always, I want to thank all

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of every episode. True you you nailed that intro, Man

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nailed it. We do got a different style episode today
that I'm excited for. Me and Drew are experimenting a
little bit here, getting our feet even wetter on the pod.
A couple of different guests joining us here in a
bit um. We're starting it off with former U C.
L A Bruin, member of the Ends basketball team from
nineteen ninety six to two thousand and now one of
ESPN's best basketball analyst Shawn Farnham. Later on, we're gonna

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be joined by two newly crowned national champions and All
American volleyball players, Logan Eggleston and Asia O'Neill from the
Texas women's volleyball team. That's all coming up on this episode.
But right now, let's bring in Sean Farnham. Sean, welcome
into the show Man. Great having you on. We had
Jay Billison a couple of weeks ago. It's nice to
get another ESPN analysts on with us, so welcome in.

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I mean it's pretty hard. I mean because Drew is
such a difficult guy. None of us like to cover um,
you know, his personality being so introverted makes it really
difficult for us to get a lot of information on.
So be surprising that ESPN guys would be so willing
to come onto this podcast. It is quite the challenge.
I'm really trying to step out of my my comfort
zone with this. You're doing good so far. I feel

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like you're doing pretty well. Like I've watched I saw
the one with Jay Billis. I think that, you know, Drew,
there's something here, like you're you're growing into something. I'm
out of you we talked about in in uh Moraga
when we did that interview about me stepping into this
space and um, just been taking a lot of your
stuff that you told me to heart man and trying
to improve a little bit. Now you don't, You're doing
a great job. I also talked during that interview that

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to see if you would actually come back to college,
and you said if you did, you'd beat pare Ellis.
So congratulations on creating the opportunity to be the oldest
living player in college basketball. It isn't milestone. I'm really
proud of he had. We had a good bite on
episode one when when Drew talked about being being at
this generation's pare Ellis. Um, he does take a lot

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of ship though from announcers and stuff and eat like people.
It was just a running joke, man, this guy's thirty
seven still run around playing college basketball twenty nine and ten, Like,
guys gotta go. Well, I mean, let's be honest, in
this day and age of college athletics, if you have
the stats that Drew has, like, you're usually not around
college for that long, you know, Like, but what I
appreciate my value and this is I gotten this discussion

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a lot with Doug McDermott, And when Doug was about
to break the three thousand point barrier down at Creighton,
everybody was like, what kind of pro is is Doug
McDermott gonna be? And my response to that was, I
don't care. I don't care, like I'm gonna appreciate the
fact that he's one of the best basketball players that
we have in college basketball, and he's putting up historically

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great numbers and he's gonna be remembered for a very
very long period of time. And when I look at
Drew's career, and I've talked to Drew about this before
in the past, you know, like I cover college basketball,
I don't know what Drew is gonna be at the
next level. I don't know how great he's gonna be.
I don't know how long his career is gonna be.
I don't know. I don't I don't have a clue.
I don't. I'm sorry, I don't. But what I do

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know is this, in in this era of college basketball,
he's one of the all time grades. And when he's
done at the end, and I would say this with
him here and I've said it on air, so It's
not like I'm saying anything I wantn't already have set.
But when it's all said done this season at at
Gonzaga and you look at all the all time grades
that have ever come through that program, it's gonna be
a very hard discussion point. If Drew Chimmy's name is

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not mentioned in the first two or three, I couldn't
agree more. I know Drew's not going to speak on that,
but why flattering me too much? As a flattered me
too much, I appreciate that, but yeah, they could be
his his mom paid for me to say that. You know,
also dropping his sister is a great player. So we'll
just move Oh, Sean, thank you for bringing up Drew's mom.

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Drew ows his mom a public apology for what he
said about her on last week's podcast. Go ahead, please,
you owe your mom a nice apology, So let's get
that out of the way. Mom, I'm really sorry for
calling you a dick on air and any fashion of
the calling you a dick. So I apologize because you're
a wonderful mother and I'm lucky to have you in
my life. So my sincerest apologies to you. That was beautiful.

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Shout out to Mama, all right, let's get right, come on.
He did, He did, he did, and you know why,
because it was over. She told him to. She told
him to get rid of this old ass pair of
shoes that work that needed to go. She shouldn't even
have had to tell them that. In the headband discussion point,
I mean, like, you just let's get some new things.
You've got enough n I L money to take care
of that now. I mean, but like, it's one of

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those things where I just have equity buckets and sweat
equity in that, and it's hard for me to detach
myself from that. You're a former player, you know, you
have like you have your certain things that you like
done and everything. But it's just it's an attachment thing.
It's hard for me to give up something that I've
invested so much and I've got so much return from.
I don't know, man, I think I think you gotta

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do away with the senior year of high school headband.
It's just people were agreeing with you two on that.
But anyway, let's let's get into the thick of this
Alabama game. Because I'm curious. I know a lot of
people are curious to hear what you guys think about it.
Zag's pulled out a hunter to ninety win over number
four ranked Alabama. You guys were fifteen, so you jumped
to eleventh in the polls. They bumped down to nine.

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I want to get Seawan your thoughts first. UM, I'm
assuming you watched the game just what you saw, um
from both sides, but obviously you can Zaga being able
to just you know, pull out a gritty win on
the road. Well, I think is I think this team
and I'll be interesting get Drew thoughts on this, but
from from Afar and I haven't been around this team
yet this year, Uh the turn of the year, He'll
he'll get sick of me real quick. But um, you know,

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watching this team, I think they're they've grown quite a
bit because of the scheduling. Uh. In one area that
I think that we often talk about on the national
level when it comes to March. Not so much me
because I'm around them enough to know them and I
see them on such a consistent basis. But the discussion
point largely comes are they tough enough to win? Are
they tough enough to win? Uh? The type of games
that they're gonna need to win, to win a national championship,

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in particular at the defensive end of the floor. And
I think when you look at this game this over Saturday, UM,
I would say the answer is yes. And and the
shooting percentage. I think people get skewed on the shooting percentage.
Obviously Alabama shot a very good percentage, but the number
of turnovers that this defense is creating and the number
of points that it's creating off of those turnovers. If
you take those turnovers and you add it into their

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shooting percentage, they're not shooting UH, They're gonna be shooting around. Well.
That's a number that you can live with if you're
marked few. And I think that they're disruptive at that end.
I think they've grown at that end. UH. And I
think that complimentary parts around Drew Um in particular has
started to gain more consistency. And those are two areas

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that I think that we saw on Saturday, UH and
the win against Alabama that we're huge and needed to
show up on a big stage against the team that
had already knocked off to two top ranked teams in
the country UH and was playing with a great deal
of momentum even coming off that game against Memphis in
front of essentially a home crowd. That was a that's
a that's what I call a payback for the battle

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in Seattle from the year before. It's kind of like
the roles were versed perfectly for that game. We were
the high seed, they were there, We were the low seed,
they were the higher seed, and then the thing flipped.
But yeah, to your point, I do think, especially with
the turnovers, that was the point in emphasis for us
because we have been struggling as a unit to score
consistently in every game. I think we saw that even

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against like Michigan State, Xavier and now you We've we've
put games together where we're solid, but we haven't done
anything spectacular. In this game, our defense kind of dictated
our offense, which has kind of been the the thing
that we haven't had is our We let our offense
dictate our defense, not the other way around. And I
think that was huge and us getting our shooting percentage
up and giving people more confidence was getting easy buckets

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off defense, which I think it was like the like
I said at the end of the game, we passed
the final because this was a long semester classes for
US with all these the schedule and everything, and this
one was if you look at it realistically, our last
quad one win, I would probably say definitely quad one win.
So it was huge for us to get this win
just because you know, we lost a bailor and perdue.

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But the fact that we're able to just combine our
defense with our offense and not our offense with our defense,
I think was the reason why we came out on
top well. And and to me, the defense has completely
shifted from a year ago. I'm because when you have
Chat along the back line and his ability to protect
the rim and alter shots. So it wasn't just the
block shots, but it's also the ability to alter shots,
how you pressure, what your coverages are like out on

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the ball, when you're extending out from the guard position
change because it's not a great shot blocking team. It's
more of a positional defensive team along the back line. Um,
and that's that's a different And so when you make
that shift, it does take time for players to adjust.
When you lose somebody that's number one pick in the draft, basically,
you know, I mean, like I know he didn't go

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number one, but Chet was there in that discussion point
all season long, and so when you lose that, you
come back and yeah, there's a lot of continuity that
it still remains on this roster, but now everything kind
of has to shift to the personnel that's there, and
I think Anton Watson has done a great job. I
thought one of the things that that Mark has always done,
and Drew thrives in this space, uh is against pressure

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bringing the ball up the floor. And when Alabama went
to that press late and he brought the ball the floor,
was like, to hell with us, I'm just gonna smash
it on the iron, and uh, we're gonna go ahead
and put a punctuation mark on this thing. It's great
to see because Drew knows is too. Anton Watson could
have started at a lot of schools and played a
lot of huge minutes over the last couple of years

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and been a All Conference caliber player. I truly believe
that we've seen that in flashes, we've seen that when
he's had moments um. But for him to be able
to do what he's doing right now, in particular in
that game, I thought, I thought was really huge for
this team, not just now but moving forward because he
needs to continue to grow in his confidence. He needs
to continue to understand that all the work that he's

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put in a practice against so many great players over
the last couple of years has paid off, and like
it has for many other bigs that have gone through
the Gonzaga program, my sense is that when you're patient
and you wait your turn, sometimes it really does reward you.
And I think by the end of this year, I
think a lot of other people will start to notice
just how good of a player Anton Watson is. Yeah,

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I would totally agree with you. I I really think
he's our team's X factor because the last game where
we had a really impact the win was Kentucky and
he was our best defender. He scored the ball. I
brought the ball up against the pressure like you said earlier.
But then they switched topping on me, So then Sheba
was on Anton, and Anton did the exact same thing
I did, and it just it changes the whole dynamic

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of our team. And his his defense is his life saving.
It's incredible. I mean, I'm not the best shot blocker around,
and when I'm the team's leading shot blocker, that's a little, uh,
a little bit of a drop off from Chet. So
his role in impact is so vital to this team,
and just him continuing to get better each and every
game is going to be so huge for us, especially
when he gets to March and down down the road

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and and just for context, Anton had seventeen points, five rebounds,
three assists, two steals. He was doing a little bit
of everything, and obviously, like you guys are saying, he
is a little bit under the radar, and some more
numbers if people aren't aware. You guys turned Bamo over
twenty one times. Um, they only turned you over nine.
And then I said to you on episode six, but
when we were previewing the game about you know, if

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they kill on the boards and you give him too
many second chance opportunities, it's gonna be lights out. It's
gonna look like that Texas game. And they only they
only outrebounded you by three on the offensive boards and
then seven for the totality of the game, so like
really like neutralize them the best you could. Obviously, Brandon
Miller had thirty six points. Freshman Phenon what what was
your guys takeaways on him? Because he was just fantastic.

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I mean, dude, he's a thoroughbred. I mean he is
he is the best freshman in the country. And it's
funny because when the p K Tournament, and I know
Drew was in the mix of playing in that event. Um,
but when we were when we were watching back in
studio during feast week, I said, five years ago, Trey
Young played in this event. And when Trey Young played
in this event, Um, everybody left saying, Man, Trey Young,

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that dude, he he eclipsed. Uh the Bagley Eton and
Porter trio that we came into the year talking about
because he started throwing up silly numbers and and I
think that even though he stumbled a little bit in
the final game for Alabama in the PK Tournament, you
just watch the way this kid can play. He can
flat out score the basketball and the the He's a

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three level score. He can do it from beyond the
arc where he's ultra efficient. He's got great form, his
release is consistent. Um, he can take you with fluidity,
uh to the rim. It's not like he's a crazy
elite super high flyer, but he's a good athlete. Uh.
And then that little step back that he had late
in the game where he got it on the if

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if if we're looking at his basket on the right
hand side, down low in the level, step back, elevate
over the top from the mid range. I mean, that's
unstoppable with his length. So he's gonna be a great pro.
He's the best freshman in the country. He's gonna be
a lottery pick, gonna be a top five pick in
my in my eyes at least heading into the NBA
Draft next year if he continues to do this. Because
one of the other areas that we don't talk about

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a lot is he is getting better at the defensive
end of the floor. He is wanting to compete down there,
and you kind of have to if you're playing for Natotes.
But he's trying to compete and impact the game at
that end. Uh, And he's allowing his scoring to kind
of come through. And when he gets going, I don't
know how you turn him off. And certainly he did
not get turned off at all on Saturday. I mean
if it wasn't for him, I think we would have

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won by twenty. I mean, he he was in um
even the shots he was making, it's like, what can
what can I do? Like what can any of us do? And? Uh,
thank god the trap worked. And he didn't shoot it
over the trap because he probably would have made it
over the trap. But where you've played against a lot
of pros, you've seen a lot of the best players
in the country over the course of your career. Where

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does a Brandon Miller in your eyes kind of kind
of fit into that mold of those elite players that
Gonzaga has faced during your time and spoke in he
has to be up there. I mean, even though I
played him in high school, he kind of reminded me
of camrad Is, just from the fact that he's a
bigger he's a he's bigger, and he's kind of like
a guard and he has that nice little flow to
his game. It's just smooth and silky, which not a

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lot of big people have when handling the ball and stuff.
And he just it doesn't matter. He can get he
can shoot over you because he's he knows how to
use his linked in his side and uh, it's just
one of those things where it's like you kind of
got to enjoy these players when they come through because
they don't they don't come through the door every day,
and it's Uh, he definitely is a top five lottery guy,
like it was. It was pretty special to Uh, obviously

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I wasn't a fan of it, but it was. It
was quite special to kind of be in that in
that fan of it. After the game, when you've won,
I mean you've already win. You're walking off the floor.
You'll be like, I gotta lit us up. But we
got to. I will tell you this, there was massive
disappointment by my my twelve year old on the game.
He's watching the game and late in the contest, somebody
got to the free throw line and my son goes by.

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Twelve year old goes, oh, man, he's gonna have a
thirty piece and then clang, and I was like, Oh,
don't worry, he's not gonna miss two in a row.
Clang and finishes. Were just just talked about this right
before you gone on. I literally go I screwed up.
I looked up at the square, but I was like, oh,

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I have twenty nine, and I just got fouled. I
started smiling and I was like, oh, yeah, all I
have to do is make one. And I'm like, I'm
gonna make the first one and I can miss. I
can air by this second one. I won't care. I
missed the first one, and I was so rattled. I
was like, oh no, there's no way I make the
second one, and lo and behold, I missed it got pulled,

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and I was like, I deserve to get pulled for that.
That's embarrassing. But I got my tenth board, so I
was like, I'll take it. I'll take the double double
over the double man. But like thirty and ten just
sits different than that, you know what I mean, Like
it's the only one. Sounds way better. No one's more
disappointed than that than myself. I was too excited. I was.
I was being a child. I was very happy. That's

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all right. My twelve year old is pretty disappointed about
it as well. So I mean, I'm glad our listeners,
our listeners love Drew's accountability. So with that, we're gonna
take a quick break here when we come back. So
much more coming up on Seawan Farnham his journey from
playing to coaching that we're going to dive into all
in here right when we come back. And we're back

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on episode seven of the Gimme Timmy Podcast with Drew
Timmy and myself Noah Bono here with our guests, the
man himself Shawn Farnham. Before we dive into it, Drew,
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um Sean. I want to start off this second segment,
take us through the journey of you walking on at
U c l A. You pass up other scholarship offers
and you then you get a scholarship there, and then
you get it taken away two years later because of

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a high powered recruiting class. Like just some of your
college journey. Walk us through this a little bit. Yeah,
you know what I mean, it was. It was very unconventional.
I mean, I'm old. You know, Drew's young, so things
are way different for him. Uh. But you know, back
in the day, you didn't really have you know, video clips,
you had no social media you had no you got
seen at the events you went to or or you
didn't period um, and you got recruited mainly through your

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high school and and that was a much larger portion
than club basketball was. I played for the Oakland Soldiers
with guys like Eddie House Like. It was great, it
was fun, and it was it was high level. And
I had a good high school career day La Salle,
which is the football powerhouse out of northern California. UM
and we had great basketball tradition with guys like Brent Berry,

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John Berry, Drew Berry, Joe McClain, the great financial guy
that that played in Arizona with the Arizona Wildcats and
went to the Final four. I think back into so
really rich tradition. But my senior year we got to
UH the state championship, and at that point in time,
I really thought I was gonna go to the University
of Montana or the Air Force Academy. Those were the

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two schools that were most heavily recruiting me. UM and
Santa Clara had kind of jumped in and I was like, Okay,
maybe I'll maybe I'll be a Bronco like stay close
to home, and the next thing. You know, it goes
state championship game u c l A losers to Princeton,
and their coaching staff flew to recruit a bunch of
guys from Crenshaw, and uh I ended up going off.
I think I had, like I want to see fifteen

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five and five in the state championship game. Um ok. Yeah.
So at the end of that night, UM, I got it.
Got about thirty five scholarship offers that came through basically
all at once. Wait wait wait wait, but look a
lot of them were small schools. They weren't n C
Double A tournament teams and stuff like that. But they

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just like, we're like, damn, like how do we miss
this guy? Like we like, that's a big game on
a big stage. And and it was huge. Um and
we we really weren't given much of a chance against Crenshaw.
They were a powerhouse out of southern California. We had
a three point lead with about like four minutes left
to go in the fourth quarter. Um and so we
were we were we were rolling that night, and it
was a great night to have a great game. Uh

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And and we've all had those nights, whether it was
on that stage or a different stage. You have a
good game on the right day, it can change things
real quick for you. And so I had that. And
then my high school coach said, hey, listen, I gotta
I gotta be honest though with you. If U c
l A was to offer you an opportunity to be
on their team, um, would you take some of these
scholarship offers to smaller schools or or would you want

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to be a Bruin? And I was like, well, coach, like,
I mean, you see, I just won a national championship
in like you know to me, Like I also was
very realistic, like I knew I wasn't gonna be a pro,
you know what I'm saying, Like I kind of like
there's there comes a moment where you tap out as
an athlete and you kind of go, okay, hey, listen,
like who am I am? I comfortable with who I am?

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I was comfortable with who I was in high school.
I knew I was a really good high school player.
I thought if I played at the smaller level I
could I could definitely help a team win. If I
went to a U c l A level, I'd be
playing with a bunch of pros, and I probably wasn't
gonna have that larger a role, but the academic opportunity, uh,
the networking opportunity, and for me, the biggest chance was

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to to potentially try to play for a national champions
have and wanted to be on a winning team that
went to the tournament every single year. And so I
told my high school coach, I said I probably would
go to u C. L A. And he goes, okay, well,
here's coach Herrick's number calling tomorrow. So all day long,
I'm sitting there like waiting for five o'clock and it's
like four fifty seven. I'm like, I can't wait to
call this guy anymore. Like, so I call Jim herricka

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national championship coach, and I said, coach Eric, I know
him a little bit early at Sean Farnham. And he goes, well,
you passed your first test because that evidently you've you
understand that it's important for me to understand how much
you want to be a Bruin. And I was like, oh,
I said, well, I've been sitting here for the last
three hours staring at this phone waiting for this time,
and he goes, okay, so let's talk about I've seen
you play one game. I'm not gonna offer you a scholarship,

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but I'm gonna offer you a spot. You have a spot.
I'm gonna bring you down on an official visit. You're
gonna get all the bells and whistles. But I've only
seen you play one game. I'm not offering a kid
i've seen play one game scholarship. I said, Coach, that's
fair enough. I'm gonna earn it. And so what happened is,
over the course that summer I went with, I drove
out of my my car. I slept on the floor
of Bob Meyers, your your executive of the Year in

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the NBA parennially for the Golden State Warriors, slept on
his couch, made all the morning workouts, UH, did all
the open gym runs, played playing the games with the pros. UH.
Then came back home, then came back down, did the
same thing on our my manager's couch. UH and Cameron
Dollar and Charles o'bayed and went into a coach and
he was asking about how the workouts were going, and

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he said, listen, that freshman that you brought in like
he's on time. He's early every single time he's committed,
he's good. And Jim was like, all right. So when
I came back down, I moved in and we're walking
across campus. He goes, hey, Sean, I needed to come
by my office today. I was like, all right, So
I come by the office. He goes, you need to
call your parents and I was like why and he goes,

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because you're on full right scholarship. And it was one
of the most surreal moments I think I've ever had
in my life. Still this day, it meant the world
to me. Uh. He ended up getting fired shortly thereafter. Um,
but that kind of that kind of was the way
it happened. And uh, you know, I chose the path
that was harder. I chose the path that was more difficult.

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I chose the path that I knew was gonna limit
my playing time and limit my role. Um. But I
look back on it now, twenty two years post graduation,
and I couldn't be happier with how my life has
turned out. And I would go back and do it
all over again. Not a single minute played more, not
a single point scored more. Uh, nothing would change, and

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I would go back and do it all over again
because being part of of u c l A Basketball
in particular at that time was immensely special. And the
talent the players that we had around me during those
four years was just I mean silly. It was just
we had pros on top of pros, and uh, it
was a great run and a lot of fun. How
did you know at such a young age though, like

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the value and the importance of like the networking world
and too, Like, yeah, I could go to like a
Montana State, or I could go to u c l A,
the best college basketball program him in the history of
college basketball, and just network my balls off, like simultaneously
while you're planning hoops, getting stronger, going to college party
and doing everything you were doing. Like, but like, was

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that networking part like the forefront of your mind, like
when you made that decision, because it's kind of led
you into so many other avenues. Originally it was I
just wanted to to play on a team that had
a chance to win a national championship, and my freshman
year went to lead eight. We should have been in
the final four. We won the conference. We've won four
teen straight games going into this tournament. We had the
hottest team in the tournament field. Um. And unfortunately we

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had an injury to Julana McCoy, who was a pro
our center. Uh, and he missed the game against Minnesota.
We had a ten point lead in San Antonio, Texas
in the Alamodo and we lost it late. Otherwise I
think we probably would have won that championship, that Arizona one. UM.
So that was that was probably the first thing in
my mind. Uh. The second thing in my mind again

(24:59):
was I mean, I don't know if it's because of
my parents. I'll give my parents credit. I won't say
things about my parents like like Drew does you know,
like I love my parents. Um, but uh, you know,
the thing for me was my dad was a police
officer in San Francisco. My mom was a part time
dental assistant. You know, I didn't grow up with like

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I went to Dala Sal But it wasn't like I was,
you know, living the high life and and got all
these bells and whistles and you know, just some kids
that had everything at his at his fingertips. And my
parents really taught me at a young age to value
the challenges of life. And if I would have gone
to a Montana or an air Force academy. Sure, especially

(25:39):
an Air Force academy like I would have started by
freshman year, I would have played for four years. I
would have won a total of probably fifteen games in
those four years. Um. You know, it would have been
they weren't great at all when I was getting It
would have been nasty. It would have been horrible. Um.
And I always believe that when you surround yourself with
the best, it brings out the best within you. And

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so what I've tried to do my whole life is
is surround myself with people that are better than me.
And because that's inevitably, they're gonna they're gonna help elevate me.
They're gonna show me the way, um. And then I'm
gonna I'm gonna put in my time in my effort
to make sure that I get to where I've wanted
to get to. I think that's why I've gotten to
where I'm at ESPN. Um. But you know, when you

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go to u c. L A. And it's Charles O'Bannon
who and Toby Bailey and j R. Henderson who were
all part of the national championship team in nine, and
then it's Baron Davis Earl Watson, Matt Barnes, Geron Rush,
Jerome Moise So, Dan Gazer Reach, Jason Capono. I mean it,
I think I said Matt Barnes. But if I didn't,
Matt Barnes throw him in there as well. I mean
these were my teammates for multiple years at U c

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l A. So every day at practice I was getting
like just beat up and just tossed around. But I
was like, what can I do if if it works
against them, I think it will work out on the court,
and so inevitably to see that payoff from you know,
playing nine games with thirty minutes my freshman year, nine
games eighteen minutes my sophomore year, uh to then starting

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in the n C Double A Tournament my junior year,
becoming a starter for a majority of my senior year
in a role that I had to reinvent and figure
out how did I fit in the picture. Because in
high school, and you guys all know this, Like when
you're in high school and you're good enough to be
a D one player, here's what happens. You get the
ball as often as you want the ball. Your coach
doesn't pull you out of the game unless you're a

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and foul trouble being you're up by thirty or see
you've looked over and then like I'm feeling a little tired,
you should probably give me a quick look. Like that's
just the reality if you're a Division one basketball player
in high school, because high school teams don't have a
bunch of Division one guys hanging around. So then you
also you go to U C. L A. And and
you know, I'm picking splinters out of my ass for
you know, the first three years, the first two years

(27:49):
in particular, you know, I had to figure out like, wait,
I'm not a score. They don't need me to score.
What can I do that nobody else wants to do
on this team? And what I figured out was nobody
wanted to set the screen. Nobody want to catch the
ball at the top the key and just reverse it
right away without even looking for their shot, without even
looking for a driving scene to keep the time unto

(28:09):
the offense going. Nobody was willing to dive over the
top of tables to save a loose ball. Nobody was
willing to take charges. Those were the things that I
started figure it out that I was like, wait, if
I do this exceptionally. Well, I could get a role
for myself on this team and lo and behold. My
first start was against Arizona my junior year, and it
was right after New Year's and I mean Drew. I

(28:31):
knew Drew would never be in this situation. But we
had a practice on January one, and uh, let's just
say some of our guys were not ready to go.
They had they had a good time on that and
here we are playing the undefeated Arizona team and laugh

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looks up and goes, who the hell wants to start
against Arizona? I said, I do. He goes, fine, You're
starting as Arizona. And I was like, what did I
just do? So I literally thought, I like, I like,
I had hit pause, and um my parents were coming down.
They had no idea. I didn't tell anybody that I
was starting. Um, I got the videotape and I wore
out the videotape in like the twenty four hours I

(29:13):
had of watching the person I was going to defend,
like what their go to movies? When they catch it there?
Where do they want it? What's the percentages of this?
Long before analytics? And it was a VHS which Drew
probably doesn't even know anything about. But you have to
like actually put the whole cassette into the thing, press
play about I know a little bit about the VHS.
Come on, all right, I'm a little bit pretty young.

(29:33):
You're pretty young. I'm a two thousands baby, minimal experience
with it too. But we had our running recording, w
w E. You know, oh, we can totally go down that.
If you want to go down that path with you,
I'll dance that dance. But you know, the thing was,
I end up starting played pretty well defensively. I did
exactly what I wanted to do, and then after that

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it kind of became I started and we won and
we beat Arizona, and I was like, oh my god,
this is great. And then all of a sudden, I
didn't play for like the next four games, and I
was like, damn, Like I I kind of did what
I was supposed to do, Like why am I not?
Then we take a loss and Lab was like, piste
off again. So he's like, fine, fart hum, you're starting,
and we guess usc. I end up setting my career

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high in points and rebounds in the game, and the
next thing you know, I'm starting The rest of the
way out and we never lost like that was the thing.
Like in the games that I started, we never lost
in the in the regular season. The only two losses
I had as a starter came in the postseason. Damn.
I did my research and said that you were nineteen
and two with Sean Farnham as a starter, So you
have your bragging rights. That sounds like you were the

(30:36):
key to success. No, but I mean true. I mean, look,
your roles changed over your college career from where you
were as a freshman to to where you are now. Um,
and sometimes there are guys and you've had guys that
I think you have played with with you. Uh. And
I look at that program too. Overall, I think I
go back to a guy like my Cart, like he

(30:56):
was a glue guy, like he really helped Gonzago win
games on a consistent basis. Uh. And I know that
was before your time, but you've had guys that kind
of like you put them out on the floor and
all of a sudden, things kind of flow pretty nicely
for a good five minute stretch, and then you put
in the guys that they that you need to play
well and things take off. And so my role was

(31:17):
really five minutes at the start of the game to
kind of establish the flow, established the rhythm, established the energy,
provide that energy for all of my teammates. They'd subbed
me out and put in a lottery pick, uh, and
and put them out on the floor. And then I'd
sit there and then come back out in the second
half and do the same thing. And if we were
up by enough, I'd probably get some more burned at
the end of the game. But but that was pretty

(31:38):
much it. And and I've never shied away from that.
I I loved the fact that I carved that out
and I created that, Like that wasn't given. I created that. Yeah, No,
it's a super cool mindset. I think that's something that
gets lost a lot in today's game. So kind of
just on your point of like embracing challenges and sometimes
you have to take a step back to take some
steps forward. But switching topics a little bit. Uh, you

(32:01):
dabbled into coaching for a little bit, you know, then um,
then you just said I'm good, I'm gonna go to broadcasting,
and I just would you ever want to be interested
in coaching again or like it's broadcasting just it's it
for you like you found your true love and you
don't need coaching anymore. Well, look, I thought, really when
I graduated I got that job at Pepperdine, it was insane.

(32:22):
I was the youngest assistant coach in the country. I
mean I was coaching a kid that actually played against
in the state championship because he read shirt UM and
that was wild. I mean, that was that was hard um.
But my head coach jan Van brought it off left
UH to take the same Bonda Venture job, and he
ended up taking the job well after the Final four,
which is one of the coaching carousels really going on.

(32:42):
And so I thought, you know, I thought, we're all
coming back and running back at Pepperdine. Things are gonna
be good. This is gonna be the year or two
of my career and then I'll probably try to bounce
after that. But I just got engaged to to my
wife and she still had two years remaining at U
c l A. And I was like, only in New
York is in the middle of nowhere, and there's no FaceTime,

(33:03):
there's no social media, you know, cell phones were barely
being used. Like this was not going to end well
for that relationship, and I'm a realist when it comes
to that. So I made the conscious decision um that
I was gonna get out of coaching for my marriage
and that, and I said, I'll figure it out after that.
And it took me a while to figure it out,

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but I called back up the people that had had
given me the opportunity. This is why I'm so proud
of you, Drew, for for starting this now, because I
started my television stuff when I was at U c
l A my junior year. I picked up the mic
before the game and told the broadcasts you have the
easiest job in the world. And guy said, really, what
would you say? And I did this whole open for
an Arizona State game that we were playing, and I

(33:44):
didn't know that the truck had the microphone was open
in the truck, and the executive producer of Fox Sports
West was in the truck. Comes out, who who is that?
And I was probably throwing up hook shots is like
two hours before game time, you know, so messing up
like there's nobody in there except for me, and he goes,
come here. He's like, do you want to do TV?
And I was like, yeah, I'll do TV. So I
started doing it seeing called the pharm files and personality pieces,

(34:06):
getting comfortable with looking into a camera and not seeing
it as something scary or or difficult at all. We
did where did basketball players hang out on campus? I
interviewed Steve laugh and was like, why don't I play
more like? It was all a bunch of fun stuff
like that, you know, And so I called them up.
And I never got paid for it because n I
l and that allnest have never existed. So I had
to do it for free. And so when I got

(34:27):
out of coaching, that was one of my first calls.
I was like, you know what, I think I did
pretty well when I did that for like two years
for you guys, can can you give me a chance?
And so they're like, yeah, let's do uh, let's do
high school football. And I did sideline for high school football.
And the microphone was like shaking. I was like all
nervous and everything. I was awful, and uh it grew
and just rep after rep, it just grew and I

(34:47):
studied and I listened and I learned. So, you know,
would I get back into coaching. The answer is yes.
Have I interviewed for jobs in the past year, even
in coaching for a head coach job, Yes, I have
Um would I would I go down that path? It
would have to be the right at because this is
a great job working for ESPN covering the sport Drew.

(35:08):
You know how much I love doing my job, and
I have not mence words with telling you how much
I appreciate what you've done for the game of college
basketball and how much fun I've had it enjoyed covering
you and your personality as well as so many countless
other players across the country over the last you know,
thirteen years at ESPN um but the last twenty two
years overall of actually doing this, uh. And the life

(35:29):
that I've been able to provide for my family has
has been beyond what I whatever could have pictured for myself. Uh.
And having his son that's now in the application process
and figuring out where he's going to go to college,
having a daughter who uh you know is is about
to fly over and train with Man Cities women's team
as a soccer goalkeeper at fifteen years of age. Uh,
my little guy who's twelve. Like this is We've built

(35:52):
a nice life for ourselves. So it has to be
the right fit and and something perfect for me to
get back into coaching. Otherwise, Uh, I love telling the
stories of of the athletes. I love celebrating. You know.
One of the coolest things happened last week. Um Jack
Jackson Watkins from North Carolina hit a three point shot
to give him a hundred points, which gave him biscuits
for everybody in the crowd. I saw that on Sports Center. Yeah, okay,

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so Jackson Watkins is a walk on and I'm sitting
on the set in Bristol and that boom, that guy
hits the shot. Everybody goes crazy and They're like, oh,
it's for biscuits. And I'm like, oh my gosh, this
is awesome. We're gonna put that in the highlight for sure.
And so I'm like Jackson Watkins like and I look,
never escored, never has made a bucket in the North
Carolina uniform. I found out his dad's name, his mom's name.

(36:37):
I'm going on bio and we come off and I
make a big deal about it because it is a
big deal. It's as big as a deal as Drew
Drew going in that game during COVID at San Francisco,
where you like you didn't miss in the first half.
I don't know how many you had in the first half.
You probably remember, but it was like your points per
minute was like three points per one minute that you
were playing on that game in San Francisco that year.

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And for this kid, that was that moment and he
may not have another moment this whole year. He's a senior.
He may never have that moment again the rest of
the year. And I I was like, I told my
broadcast partner, I'm like, we're going in on this. We're
gonna go all in on this. So the next morning
I wake up and I go to Twitter, and here
it is my d MS. Is this kid thanking me

(37:22):
for talking about him, thanking me for him making his shot.
And I told him, I said, listen, my responsibility is
a broadcaster. It's not just to celebrate the Drew Timmys
that put up good numbers every single night. It's having
awareness of those moments that come at the end of
the game. It's having a moment that that might come
out of out of left field. Somebody gets put in

(37:43):
the game, it's the first time they've ever been in
the first half of a game. In college basketball. That
is a significant moment because that moment, maybe the videotape,
the DVD, the MP three, MP four, whatever it is
that they show to their grandchildren one day. And that's
how serious I take the role that I have is
a storyteller and a person that had us to understand

(38:04):
the moment that surrounds the game. First of all, as
a former walk on, shout out to that kid, former
walk on myself, shout out to that kid, and I
would have done the same thing. I would have d
M you right away and I would have been like, yo, man,
thank you so much, because yeah, I mean, we people
that know the walk on role. It's a struggle down
there at the end of the bench every day, every game.
And so he had a that's an amazing moment that

(38:25):
he had and it was so cool that it was
for the free biscuits or whatever like it. Actually it
meant something more than just like, oh, I got in
and I hit it three, So that's super cool. Um.
Do you have any advice though, to like someone like
Drew you know that sees himselves maybe doing both of
these or at least like segueing into this whenever his
basketball career comes to an end. Hopefully that's not for
a while, but like, well, what kind of advice do

(38:47):
you offer, like players who try to like, you know,
get in the mix of both of these things, playing, broadcasting,
study study. Uh, you know, when you you watch tape
to know your opponent, you watch tape, you look at
the scouting report to know your opponent. Um, when you're
watching games and you listen to broadcasters, what do you like?
What do you dislike? What kind of commentator do you

(39:08):
want to be? You know, and don't just listen to basketball,
like that's the big thing for me, Like I listen
to I listen to everybody, Like I listened to Ali
Wagner called the World Cup, And I think she's phenomenal
at Fox in the way that she presents Um, those games,
I think she's she's a beast. Um. You know, you
you look at guys like herb Street. What has made

(39:29):
Kirk curb Street Kirk curb Street? What makes Pat McAfee
Pat McAfee, What makes you know Dick Vitale Wrath, those
legends that will never see again in the broadcasting world.
What what has given them the longevity? What has made
them special and unique? And there's a difference in all
of them, but The one thing I would tell you
is is passion, like what is your passion like? Are

(39:51):
you able to allow your passion to come through for
the game? And and don't try to be them, but
try to take from them the understanding of how did
he see that? Why was that's? Why was that point
so important for him to make? And ask that why?
And I think if Drew does that, he'll be just
fine because he has his own unique personality he is,

(40:12):
He's unapologetically who he is, and that's what I think
draws so much attention to him as a player. Um,
whether it's it's positive or whether it's negative, and you've
dealt with both, um. But I think that as a broadcaster,
that's that. The other thing, too, is when you're watching film,
how do you watch film like I watch? I'm watching
film countless hours per day right now because in studio

(40:37):
I've got to know every team. I don't have just
I don't have just one team. You know, WCC Conference
play for me is easy. That's the easiest thing I
have on my schedule. Okay, because here's here's what I do.
I go. Okay, So Gonzaga St. Mary's, Gonzaga B y
U B y u st Mary's. Those are six of
my games right there, because they played twice, So those
are six of my games on ESPN. I know that. Okay, fine,

(40:57):
I see those teams like I know what Randy Bennet's
gonna do right now. I can tell you how he's
going to try to scheme to take Drew out of
the game, and then Drew will laugh because Drew kills
them every single time they play, with the exception of
last year, I did, I did, I did, I did
because you have been killing them for so long. It

(41:18):
was the meanest an. It was crazy. It was it
was crazy, and I was like, I can't believe I'm
watching this right now and they win. Dave Fleman and
I are getting pushed and thrust it out onto the floor.
Our broadcast table literally explodes, like off the off the
breaks that they have on the table there at center court. Um.

(41:39):
But it's but look, that's what makes it fun. That
that is what makes it great and enjoying those moments.
But in studio, I've got to have at least a
thirty thousand foot view on almost every team in the country,
and I have to have an understanding of what's making
them great, what's not making them great? Why are they
doing this? Who's that player? And So when I'm doing
my studio hits, like often I look at the games

(42:01):
I've talked to our producers, and then I start going
back through on Synergy, which is a great website that
allows me to watch any game anywhere that's played in
the world, And I start going through and I just
start picking out things that are important to me. So
that's what That's what Drew should do every opponent that
he faces. What makes them unique, what makes them great?
How are they doing it? Because that's the stories you
have to tell. Do you ever balance out like your priorities? Like,

(42:26):
I know you said you have to have a thirty
foot thousand reach, but like is there a conference or
like a couple of conferences that become more of a
priority than the rest, like obviously the high major ones,
but like you said, you have to have a firm
grasp and understanding on the whole landscape. So like, how
do you even balance your time to you know, don't
it's got to be so random? Like yeah, well, I mean,

(42:48):
like really, Feast week is a great week for me
to get a really quick look at everybody so what
usually starts in August. I call coaches in August and
I say, what do you like about your team right now?
Who has been the player that has improved the most
over the course of summer. And then the last thing is,
if you're going to accomplish your goals this year, what
has to change? What's the one thing that's keeping you awake?

(43:09):
As we get to September, and coaches are really honest
at that time of the year, Like, if I asked
Mark that question next week, he's gonna give me the
coach answer. I asked Mark that question in August, He's
telling me exactly where they're at. So I've learned to
ask those questions early over the course of the summer
is they're coming out of their summer workouts, and then
that gives me a perspective and I type it all

(43:31):
up on my own. I don't read the preview magazines
because I want to formulate my own thoughts. I don't
want somebody else formulating my thoughts for me. And then
once we get to Feast week, you know, we're twelve
hours a day on the set in Bristol and there's
six monitors in front of me with two teams playing
in every game, and you're like, oh, Zach eighty is
really good. That guy is gonna be a problem. Hey,

(43:54):
Yukon looks a lot better than they did last year.
They're gonna be a problem. Brandon Miller is pretty good.
And so you start just taking notes and I just
have this notepad next to me at all times, and
I'm just writing and scribbling and writing and scribbling. And
by the time we get out of November and we
get to December, you know, the game's kind of get
broken up a little bit in their schedule. Like Drew
Team Drew, they only played one game last week, so
games get spread out a little bit more. That allows

(44:15):
me a little bit more time to really lock in.
And there's a couple of things that you look at.
Who's the stars. Who's gonna be the guys that we're
talking about all year long that are stars. Doesn't mean
they have to come from great teams, but their stars.
Who are the great teams? Who are the teams that
are good enough to make the final four? Uh? And
who's the teams that that maybe could improve that haven't

(44:36):
tapped out yet. Because the last thing you want to
do and Drew knows this as well. You don't want
to tap out on December nineteen. You want to get
better as the season goes along, and you want to
be playing your best when your best is needed in
March period. That's why I love this team. We are
nowhere near tapped out. We still got a long ways

(44:58):
to go. But last question for you, what what's been
You're favorite team to cover? Most surprisingly and then also
the most player out of nowhere. That just surprised you.
I think you know it's it's funny. I mean, I
spend so much damn time in Spokane, it's really hard
not to say. You even got your own flatbread. They

(45:20):
have my own flat but don't you have here? Which
has become a joke. And by the way, I actually
bought a bed from the Davenport too and had it
shipped home for my son. That flatbread? Is that flatbread
thing real? Yeah? Well it tastes any good. It's it's good.
And one of the great things about it is the
community around the program and Drew noses really really well.
But um, you know, we've raised eighteen thousand dollars last year.

(45:43):
I think the sixteen thousand dollars for coaches versus cancer.
And one night I served the flatbread at the Davenport Hotel.
I wore the their their outfit, and I walked around
and so many Gonzaga fans came through and ordered it
that we were averaging I think three flatbreads ordered per
minute for four straight hours. Like that's insane, it's crazy,
that's crazy. Surprise you, Yeah, it's not so, I mean.

(46:08):
And and what makes college basketball special is the great environments.
So here's what I would say. I think that the
Kennel Club is one of the best students sections in
the country. They bring it for all the games I'm there.
I know sometimes maybe it may not be exactly the same,
but when I'm there for those big games, it's as
loud as any venue in the country. I think going
to Alan field House uh and doing a game and
and fog Allen is is like going to a cathedral.

(46:32):
Like you you don't you feel like you're going to
a church of basketball. Not so much just watching and
observing a college basketball game. Rupp Arena on Super Tuesday
when they were when they had Devin Booker and Karl
Anthony Towns and those guys were going undefeated, Like that
was as wild and as crazy and as a great
time that I've ever had as a broadcaster, So like

(46:52):
those would be my three that I would go with
more than any as a broadcaster. I enjoy going to
those places, um because of the fans, the students sections
in each of those locations, and just how good the
programs are. Like nobody wants to go to a place
where you're not winning, Like you know, like I know
we're in this day and agel like, look at me,

(47:13):
I'm averaging. Good for you winning like it's still a
basketball game, Like I know. Sometimes we go to highlights
and we're like Lebron James had thirty five tonight and
the Wizards won by twenty and you're like, wait, why
why don't we just showing Lebron James for Like the
entire Highlights Sports Center does it all the time. It
drives me nuts, Like winning matters to me. And when

(47:36):
you get to the opportunity to go around winning programs
on a consistent basis, that's cool as hell. That's my
biggest beef with ESPN. Man, they always kick my cowboys
while they're down. Oh, come on, my honors and Brock
Purty are going to light you guys up, just like, hey,
why don't you guys, why don't you guys go ahead
and run a quarterback sneak again and trying to put
the ball down and see how that works out for you?

(47:58):
What are weak for you to bring up the Cowboys
man like you should have out And they're like, Stack's
fault for throwing a pick. Now it hit it hit
him in the chest plate like it happens. You know,
it's like us, you know, with Mr Irrelevant becoming like
an All Pro in two weeks, like you know, I mean,
it's you know, it's just different organizations have different expectations

(48:20):
that Sean, I got one more question for you, and
then we're going to wrap it up. Your favorite moment
as an analyst or the favorite your favorite game that
you've called you have anything that sticks out? Favorite game
is is an easy one. Indiana at Illinois on a
Thursday night in the Big Ten. Illinoy had lost six
out of seven. Indiana was number one of the country.

(48:41):
Was Zeller and Oladipo and all of those guys. A
backdoor cut by Tyler Gaffney with six point six seconds
left to go on the clock. He catches it and
just throws it up and it goes in and it
was a store a court storming like I've never seen before.
I mean it was crazy. It was madness. And and

(49:01):
there's so few times where you get to see number
one actually go down, you know, like it like on
a on a buzzer beater. Uh. And certainly to a
team that looked like they had no life whatsoever. So
to me, that that's the game that kind of sticks
out most. I think the moment that was kind of
the coolest. Uh. There's there's a couple that come to mind.

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I would say, you know, hosting the Grand Old Opery
at the SEC tournament, Like getting to go on stage
and announce like the country music acts at the Grand
Old Opery as a broadcaster. That was that was pretty cool. Yeah,
that was pretty fun. Going to Shanghai, China, uh with
the Pack twelve was kind of cool to see Shanghai

(49:44):
uh and and see a different culture. So there's been
some great moments like that that have allowed me uh
to go to a bunch of places that I would
have never gone to in my life. Uh, and that
I've really really enjoyed. Uh, you know, going to a
Saturday night football in the sec U L s U
versus Florida on a Saturday night. They were both undefeated
and Leonard for Nette was the running back for L

(50:06):
s U. Uh, the hundred five thousand people screaming, Garth
Brooks calling Baton rouge. That was pretty that's pretty awesome.
So those are the moments, because the game itself, you
kind of lock in, Like I'm exhausted after games like
I wear myself out because mentally I'm like, Okay, don't
miss anything, don't mess up anyone's names, know exactly what
we're wanting to do. What is your moment here? Um,

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that's pretty fun. And then interacting with the fans like
I remember a couple of years ago, I said to
a fan against you know their fan base, they their
their students section is very comfortable with talking to me
and uh, one of the scot a cowboy hat and
sunglasses and he's like, where my hat? Where my hat?
Like for the first ten minutes a game. So I
looked over. I was like, dude, stop, if you're up

(50:51):
by forty, I'll wear your hat. And they're playing St. Mary's.
I kid you not. They went up by forty, so
as soon as as soon as the zags went up
by forty and sat Mary's. This dude was like running
to give me his hat. And so we come back
at a commercial break and I'm wearing the hat and
the sunglasses and just having fun with it, like that's

(51:13):
the That's the best part of my job is to
have the fun and embrace the fun, embrace the uniqueness
of the places that we go that we get to
cover the sport that I love. Yeah, hey man, well,
we appreciate you bringing the fun to give me Timmy podcast.
This was this was spectacular everything that we you know,
we wanted getting you on. So so thank you man,

(51:34):
We appreciate it. Yeah, and Mrs Timmy, you're an amazing woman.
Uh and I apologize for your son and his uh,
his relentless assault. On last week's podcast. Um, he talks
about getting coal in the stocking. If you don't give
a review, I'm getting you're you're getting. I was getting
a lump of coal like January one last year. So

(51:55):
like I've been so far gone through, might as well
just accumulated as much coal as I can. At this point,
I think I see I think I gonna see you
guys about three or four times in January, so I'll
see you real soon in person. Drew, congratulations on doing this,
Keep keep grinding, keep getting better, and if you know,
you know, you can always ask me at any point
time for any advice. I'll be I'll be happy to

(52:16):
reach out and make sure I'll give you good, good
solid advice. Appreciate you and thank you so much for
hopping on. We We really appreciate and look forward to
seeing you soon. Sean. I've envisioning the day when me,
you and Drew on an ESPN panel together. So I'm
putting that, putting that out there and man manifesting it.
Let's just hope it's not at this year's Final four
down to Houston that my man is not playing, so

(52:40):
that's what he wants. Yeah, all right, Man, appreciate you
as having new year Mary Christmas do you guys? Yeah,
you too. All right, we gotta take a quick break.
We still got more coming on to give me timmy
podcast when we come back. Newly crowned national champions from
the Texas Volleyball team, Player of the Year Logan Eggleston,
and first Team All American Asia O'Neill, the daughter of

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NBA legend Jermaine o'neion join us after the breaks, talk
about their championship run this past weekend, their future, plans
to play on the US Olympic team in and so
much with them right when we come back, and we're
back on episode seven of it Give Me to Me
Podcast with Drew, Timmy and myself Noah Bono Drew. That
was fire with Shawn first and foremost Chef's Kiss. Now

(53:22):
we have Texas volleyball stars Logan Eagleston, who I, like
I mentioned, was National Player of the Year and Big
twelve Player of the Year in Asian O'Neill, who's first
Team All American, joining us. Both are also part of
the seven one Agency family and coming off their big
national championship victory this past weekend. Major shouts to them
and their team. All right, let's welcome into the show

(53:43):
national champions Logan and Asia. What's up you guys? Thank
you both for coming on and joining to Give Me
to Me Podcast. We appreciate it. Thanks for having us
so okay National Championship Senior year, huge win. How are
you guys feeling? What are the vibes talk to us? Like?
Are you guys hung over? Like you still what's going on? Like,
how how was the party? Like, just just break it

(54:04):
down for all of us, please. It was good. I know,
I mean, well it was a great time, but we
were in Omaha, Abraska, so it wasn't Austin. But it
was fun. Yes, So are we drinking after the podcast?
Are we drinking now? Like? What's the vibe? Like the
party should not be over now, it's you guys want
a freaking natty. It's so dope, party's not going to stop.

(54:26):
I think it still wasn't really sunk in yet, So
I think we're gonna celebrate your like until New Year's
for sure. But it kind of sucks because like we won,
then we came home and then everyone goes home for Christmas.
We don't really get to be together as a team
right now, and so it's kind of like we're all
back with our families. But I know, I know everyone's
gonna still be celebrating. Yeah, it kind of feel that
happened like a weird time. I guess you're all going

(54:46):
to be home. Did you not get like a like
you get home from Omaha, Nebraska and like get to
do something with your team, like something fun. We so
we got home. We landed back in Austin at like
five o'clock and we had to be at the tower
to light the tower at five thirties. So I got
back to campus eights and pizza really quick and then

(55:07):
watching with the tower and just got to like be
with our fans and stuff. So I really have had
time to like kind of sit down and realize like
with the team, like just our friends and be like, yeah,
we really when this. Afterwards we have the celebration with
the families, you know, like it just said, wewhere in Omaha, Nebraska.
So it's kind of cold, kind of want to just
like stay inside, but definitely definitely celebrated how a good time.
Who out of y'all too? Took down the most drinks

(55:29):
celebrating who's the best party? You're out of y'all? Um
Asia maybe me? Yeah, definitely it was a good time. Well,
just like what about it though, was like like just
like walk us through like how hard it was to
like accomplish something like that, Like you had to go

(55:50):
through so many games, so many rounds, and then like
to get to the top of the mountain, like winning
any championship is not easy. So just like break down,
just like what it took out of you guys mentally
physically to get through the whole season and then you know,
accomplish that and just being number one the whole year basically,
I think we had like one week that we were
at two. It's really hard because everybody's coming for you
all the time. Um, and then we had really good

(56:13):
teams in the tournament, like Georgia was good House, today
it was good Sandy, like all the teams definitely could
have beat us. And just having to go in every
night and be like, Okay, well it really doesn't matter
on the other side of that, like we just need
to come and take care of business was tough. And
just because we've always gotten really close, but everyone always
said we can never get over the hump. So like
having that pressure in the back of our minds, like

(56:33):
year five, it's like, oh, ship, can we do it? No, Yeah,
We've never ended out on top, and so that was
the pressure of like people always talked about, like, oh,
Texas chokes when they get the tournament, Like we were
ranked super high all year and then we choke at
the end. But it felt good not to have that
narrative this year. You know, fishing on top of it's

(56:54):
just crazy because every single team works so hard and
like we're talking about this the other day, but like
there's so many like really great players and really great
teams that never get to win a national champions up,
and so at the end of it, it was kind
of like this relief of like, like, ship, we did something,
Like we actually did it. Like a lot of people
try so hard and work so hard, but like don't
get get there. And so just like this like relief

(57:16):
of like wow, like we did something that not a
lot of people do. And so the whole season it
was obviously the goal, but finally like getting there, it
was just like, oh my gosh, like everything we put
ourselves through was actually worth it. And I don't know,
I'm still like I don't it doesn't feel real. Like
it's some of those things of like I was telling
them earlier, as I was like, I feel like we

(57:37):
have practiced tomorrow, like if we're going back to the
gym and just like doing some crazy drills like we
do every single day. So it's it's like just one
of those surreal moments. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean I remember,
what was it two years ago? The COVID year, y'all
made it and ended up losing in the national championship games.
So just like, what's that feeling like to know that,
like you guys were just like you guys worked so hard,

(58:00):
got there and then lost. I mean, I think that
was a year we lost to in the championship But
just like, how good does it feel to know that,
Like you kind of can just kind of say like
f you to everyone who always said y'all are so
good until it comes down to winning it, Like that
has to be so sweet and rewarding. Yeah, it's a
terrible feeling to lose, and I think that like stayed
with us for the past two years. Like it was depressing,

(58:24):
like having to see the confetti fall on the other side,
and it was just like one of those things like
I don't want to feel that way again. I don't
want to like in my career, like my season on
that like negative feeling again. So it was kind of
one of those like we're not it's not happening, Like
we're not gonna let it happen. But it's funny because
when we lost that game, it was in Omaha, so
it was like in the exact same place, like exact

(58:46):
same arena, and so it's kind of this feeling of
like PTSD of like oh, like we're in the same
place again, like against a team from Kentucky, Like how
are we gonna like do this time? And so it
was definitely such such a good feeling to finish like that. Yeah,
And I just think we're always a team that has
a chip on our shoulder, like someone always has something

(59:06):
to say about us, and we kind of just embrace that.
So being able to like embrace it and then go
out and win the way we did was top tier feeling.
I was on cold, I'm still on cloth. It doesn't
seem real, y'all should be. That's so dope. And then um,
obviously y'all are two of the best in the country,
in the world, Like what what's next for you guys?

(59:26):
Just career wise, like kind of just walk us and
the listeners through like what y'all's plans are and kind
of the steps that's gonna take to get to whatever
is next for y'all. Go first, Okay, Um so I'm
done with college. That was my That was the end
for me. Got it finished how I did. Um, So
I'm gonna go play overseas starting in January. So I

(59:48):
don't know exactly when I'm gonna be yet, but somewhere
potentially in Europe. It's kind of where it look. It's
looking like, um, I'm gonna enter the season. The season
overseas has already started, so I'll be like a midyear
transfer into onto a team, and I'm excited. I just
wanna keep getting better. I have, you know, dreams of
playing on the national team, so I just want to
keep improving, get on a good team, compete, show what

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I can do, and then hopefully get invited to the
national team training in the summertime and then kind of
see what it see what comes out of that. But
I'm I'm excited. I think I've been like wait, not
waiting to be done. Obviously I love it a Texas,
but just like really ready to like start the next
chapter of my volleyball career. So I'm I'm really pumped. Well,
I have a six year I read storted my first

(01:00:34):
year and then got my COVID year, so the n
of season, I really did not think I was going
to come back. And then just the whole culture shift
that we had on our team with like new coaches
and everything just really convinced me to stay another year.
I feel like I got a lot better throughout this
year too, and with our new coaching, So for me,
just like why not stay my extra year, um, get
more free education and then on a go playing pro

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to UH and hopefully a national team stuff in the future,
so like, hopefully I'll be there within In the summer,
we accomplished the big national championships, So the next the
next goal of the gold medal together, so Asia, let's
make it happen. Well, I need to get another Natty next.
The medal sounds like, y'all two are just equate to winning,

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So I don't see why team USA win It take
both of you all. It's a no brainer. But six
years in college, I gotta say kudos to you, like
I did five And during that fifth year, I was like, hey,
fuck this like trying I'm trying to hit the dip like, so,
I mean, you're like, obviously I played sport like you're
playing volleyball. You're coming off the national championship, so it
makes sense. But like, kudos to you because I would

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not be able to do that. But Dedrick was telling me,
you guys attended the USA Volleyball Training Camp. What was
it this past summer. Yeah, so like that's kind of
like the beginning steps for you guys to kind of
keep you know, making your way into a position to
be an Olympian, Right. That sounds crazy, like if you
guys were Olympic Olympic athletes, that's sick. That's the goal. Yeah.

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I was really cool. It was It was my first time.
I think it was both of our first times being
with like the actual senior national team coaches. Like cartch
Cry was like the head coach at that camp, and
it was like I think eighteen girls in college. Um,
so it was like a really small group and we
just got to like we were out there for a
week and did like the whole kind of like the
same schedule as the national team does in the summer.

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So we got like the entire experience of like what
it would look like, got the like national team coaches there,
like sports psychologists was there, the nutritionists, their trainer, their
strength coach. It was like the full experience and it
was really it was really cool. I had a great time. Yeah,
it was really fun. That was the first time I
really did any USA stuff like throughout high school, I
didn't um my freshman year, I went to like a tryout,

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but it was kind of it was not the same.
And then this summer I was like, me and one
other girl from Oregon, we're invited to just train with
the national team during their like Volleyball Nations League season,
so we were with all the basically Olympians. I just
won a gold medal and trained at them for four
weeks in San an Anaheim. So it was pretty cool.
It was interesting just to see all their perspectives on

(01:03:06):
everything and just hear about what pro volleyball life is like,
because it's so different than anything that I've seen. Because
obviously I'm really involved in like NBA World, so hearing
about volleyball in other countries is pretty interesting but exciting
to see. Yeah, Asian, you mentioned NBA World, So I

(01:03:26):
want to single you out really quick because obviously your
dad is Jermaine O'Neil. So, like I've talked to a
couple of people on my other podcast, like Brad Calperry
in particular about like, you know, growing up with a
famous dad, like his dad, John Calperry is obviously a coach.
Your dad was a player, But like, what is that
dynamic like for you? Like you're probably hanging out in
NBA arenas when you're like four years old, Like what

(01:03:48):
do you know? Like what's your Yeah, it's definitely different. Um,
it was really fun growing up just going to all
the games, like being what four or five years old
and you're out to like two o'clock and I just
sitting in the arena waiting for my dad to get
home or just going to away game. Was thinking that,
like his teammates are my friends, and just having that
like experience and seeing high level sports like before I

(01:04:11):
even really knew that I wanted to be a highlowl athletes.
So it was really cool. Um, I really appreciated all
the experiences and then now just having him like to
talk to about really just trying to be the best
I can be. He Drew knows he's pretty tough, pretty
tough guy on you in a nice way. So yeah,

(01:04:32):
some of the times I'm like, all right, bro, like
let's stop talking to me please, but very thankful to
have all of his insight and help me with my career.
Back to volleyball. I would just say, like I've gotten
into volleyball. Recently just because my sisters playing and I'm
trying to figure it out a little bit. But at
least like looking on TV, it seems like and just
hearing about it on ESPN, and even like stuff like
Twitter TikTok, it's like growing more and more popularity. How

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would you say, just the attention for y'all has gotten
better from when y'all started to now. It's been such
an insane like shift since since we started college. Like
obviously being in Austin, like Texas volleyball has had like
a huge following for so many years, but even like
within Austin, like the the growth of the fan base
has been insane. Like we've we sell out like every

(01:05:17):
single one of our games pretty much, and it's like
random games and like a Wednesday night against like a
mid level team in our conference, and there's so many
fans there and so it's wild to see. And then
like so many fans stay after the games and just
like want our autographs and just want to meet us.
And so just being like a female athlete and getting
that kind of experience and like seeing how we're impacting
the community has been really really cool. But then also

(01:05:38):
like you said, like ESPN and like all of these
kind of like really big sports sites are like finally
starting to like put some respect on volleyball and like
talking about it and like playing it on you know,
their networks and stuff, and like they're seeing that people
are tuning in and like want to watch it if
it's available to them, and so I just think it's
going to continue to grow. But it's really cool to

(01:05:59):
be kind of on the beginning stages of that because
like so many people read out its us and like
talk about how they want to see us playing more
on ESPN and like on those big webs on all
those big networks and stuff, and so it's cool to
see that and just to see how it's going to
continue to grow. Like this past weekend, like they sold
out the National Championship game, which is like wild and
it was so loud in there, even though most of

(01:06:21):
it was Nebraska fans even though they weren't there. Um,
but moving on, it's just crazy so to see like
the amount of engagement that volleyball is getting, and like
I know, because the sport's so fun to watch and
so fun to be a part of, it's just going
to continue to grow. And so it's it's cool to
be a part of and I'm excited to see like
the next steps because it's gonna be big, especially the

(01:06:41):
league's here that are starting out, because I know a
lot of girls want to stay in America and we
have like a you which is this will be its
third year, I think. Um. But then Love Volleyball is
starting a new league too, and just seeing I think
Kevin Durant donated to both of them. Yeah, he's on
the board for both of them. So just seeing like
big name people like that investing women's sports has been
really exciting because most people don't want to have ago.

(01:07:04):
I've overseas for like ten plus years, so having those
opportunities here I think it's really helpful for a lot
of women. Yeah. No, that's a big thing too, is
seeing like all these like men in sports that are
supporting women in sports. Like it's super big. Like Kevin
Durant donated a lot. I know Joe Burrow and his
family donated a lot too. I think it's called the
Pro Volleyball Federation, which is a new league they're trying

(01:07:24):
to start in the United States. So like all of
these like really successful men in sports are like finally,
you know, using their platforms for like two better women's sports,
which is like super important and really cool to see.
So Drew, that's your next. Hey, my sisters playing up
and coming. I'm I'm totally locked into volleyball and playing
it more. I've been keeping up with it on ESPN

(01:07:47):
and stuff. I'm trying to learn. I'm getting my bumping
and passing down because I got the spiking down to
a science. But I got Drew as a bad volleyball player.
I don't even think it's a bold prediction, and I
think serve as bad. But other than that, I'm solid.
I'm solid. I'll say that I'm good at sand volleyball,
not not on the court, but sand I'm nasty at. Oh,

(01:08:09):
speaking of beach volleyball, do you think the two of
you could beat Carrie Walsh Jennings and Misty May in
a two v two match? Or is it is beach
in court just two different They're like gold medalists, right,
that's what you want to be though, right? Like? How
different is it though? Like sand court? Like is it
vastly different or is it just like something you can

(01:08:30):
just get used to and it's I would say it's
very different depending on your position. Like Logan, I feel
like would have an easier transition because she passes and
like plays more defense, Like I don't play defense really
like I served, but that's it. I don't. I'm never
in service, eve, So the skill sets, like my position
is not a thing in beach. So it's just very
boat you t is starting a sand team in the spring.

(01:08:53):
So I'll let y'all know and find up being good
that you actually are pretty good. It's very, very different.
And the worst part about being an indoor player and
then playing beach is like you lose your entire vertical
on the sand, Like it's so hard to jump in
the sands, Like we're used to getting up pretty high,
but then in the sand it's like we get like
an inch off the ground and hit the ball straight

(01:09:14):
in the net. So that's like the biggest adjustment is
like we're used to like killing balls, you know, and
just like that's what we do, and then you're getting
the sand. It's just not not having anymore. But as
you're gonna be good, you have like I mean, if
I'm not I'm going to be exactly you know, I'm
very so if like were kind of wife for like

(01:09:34):
ten days and playing in a tournament. So we go
down there and get smacked like I'm gonna be the
whole time. You're not gonna happen. You're not going to happen.
I believe in you. I think you'll. I think you'll
figure it out. You've got enough competitive fire about you
where you're not gonna if if one time goes bad,
you ain't gonna let it happen again. So you're right.
My partner just needs me on the same page. I
can't have someone's like whatever, Like, no, we're locked in.

(01:09:56):
We gotta be gotta be. Can you guys tell me
what your verticals are? Please? I just want to. I
want to know if it's hard the mine. I'm just curious.
It's definitely higher than I think the like freshman yeary
on vert test. So we do the jump, Matt, what's

(01:10:16):
your jump? Matt? Like with Travis, it's bad. I don't
believe that. What is it? It's definitely better than mine? No,
what is yours? I'm scared to say, guys, I can't.
I tell Travis every time, like I can't jump with
my hands on my hips, Like that's not Okay, we do,
Like we do jump testing every Monday, and we have

(01:10:36):
to stand with our hands on our hips and just
jump straight up. I'll stay mine. I like my highest
this season was thirty eight, minds thirty six. I'm so confused.
You have to have your hands on your hips. You
can't arm exactly, so like we would jump higher probably
if we could do our whole arm swing. But it's

(01:10:59):
just standing. But you're saying thirty six inches, that's a lot.
That's not what are we Are we talking about a
different metric because that's a high. And I'm like, if
I walked up to Drew and said, yo, I have
a thirty six inch vertical, he'd be like, okay, go
throw it off the backboard and wind middle dunk this
like you know, you know what I mean? Like I

(01:11:19):
don't know, I don't know. That's just what they tell us.
But you definitely touch harder than me though, like approached jump. Well,
here's the thing, here's the thing. I can jump off
one leg really well because that's literally all I do,
but two it is a little different. That's facts. That's fair. Okay, yeah,

(01:11:39):
that's freaking yeah. We'll figured it out another time. We
can I do Like this kind of competitiveness y'all have
between each other. So this this leads into a great,
great topic I had planned one d one y'all are
meeting each other at the net. Who's who's winning? Because
I know you'll have done this all the time at practice,
Like it just happens. You're like, come on, who who

(01:12:01):
who wins that matchup? Okay, like volleyball is on one
on one? But I think I know I would win.
You think you would win? Why would you win? Well,
what are we basing this off of? Like if I'm
just hitting it, you get you get, you just get
past and like you guys like so like logan will
hit like five and then you'll block five, then you'll

(01:12:23):
hit five, and like who's doing better? Not fucking true.
It's not tennis, man, I know, but like no, someone's not.
It's just a friendly competition. Like that's what I would do. Yeah,
a slide? Are you hitting like a one? Hitting a slide? Okay,
I'm hitting a go because then yeah, you'd be right
there you'd be blocking me hearing it go. I don't

(01:12:44):
know practice, I think like they you'll probably match up
against each other, right like when you'll scratch like like
who usually who usually like wins that matchup. Well, sometimes
you really like clamped me on the slides like it's
like going straight down. But then others won every ten
every honestly. You Yeah, so the thing is blocking to me,

(01:13:07):
I don't even try to hit at you. I get
scared that you're gonna block me, so I hit at
down the line, you know. Yeah, that's fair, one on
one single block. Yeah. I think we're both very terminal,
so it's kind of hard. I'm met within the flow.
I didn't I didn't wear that properly. I was thinking basketball.
But I'm glad y'all. I'm glad y'all translated that from

(01:13:29):
me properly right now. I will say this. So we
do this game called short court and it's like tinfol like,
so it's like a tiny little box like it's not
the full court age would win that because I don't
know how to tool of block to save my life.
So I was I'll give you that. You you win
that game every single night. I get piste off when
we start practice with that. I'm mad for the rest

(01:13:50):
of practice because I lose every single time out of
breath sweating, profusely, but I want that's all that matters.
That's so if it's that game, I'll give it to
you the way that Drew proposed that though of like
one v one volleyball, like it's impossible, I'm like thinking
of like a tennis court, like you can't just someone

(01:14:13):
passes it like that. Oh, just like spike for spike, Okay,
I could see something like that. I would love to
like compete against you to see how far behind my
skill level is in volleyball like us, since play in
middle school? Is that like your introduction to volleyball, you know?

(01:14:36):
Like yeah, like gym class, high school, I play with
my I try to play with my sister. Sometimes. I
would have played in high school, but we didn't have
a men's volleyball team, so men's it's not not too
popular in thost States. It's kind of getting big in
Texas though, yeah, you know, like people always say, like
I don't I don't know if you guys have ever

(01:14:57):
heard this, but like there's so many people that compare
like I don't know, like an eighth or ninth grade
like five star basketball player and they're like, oh, he
would beat the best Division one women's player in the
country like that always like wonder what the discrepancy is
between talent and like I'm twenty four years old, and
I would say, like I'm fully grown, Like I would
love to see what my discrepancy and talent is versus

(01:15:18):
like even it doesn't even have to be volleyball, just
like another sport that I don't play. Absolutely embarrassed me,
I know, but that's what I'm saying, Like I would
just love to see how high like the ceiling of
talent really is, like whoa, because I just I can't.
I know it's big, but like I can't even picture
because like I don't play. No, A lot of a

(01:15:38):
lot of basketball guys in particular, I think that they
could show up on a volleyball course out and I'm
one of those people. I'm definitely one of those people.
Embarrass yourselves quickly. I have enough self awareness to know
that I'm not going to slide for any ball and
like I'm I probably can't even I know the times
I've tried to spike, like terrible, so bad, but I

(01:16:01):
can bump it a little bit. I got like a
good little you know what I mean right here? But um,
all right, I got three quick hitters for you guys,
and then we'll wrap it up. First, both of your
favorite pregames songs and or artists. Who do you got?
Who's who's your go to? Megan Stallion? What can a Stallion? Yeah?

(01:16:23):
All right, come on, I say I want some girl wrap.
I like girl wrap before games. Yeah, our team does
like girl wrap. I like a little more, a little
more aggression sometimes. I think this season my two favorite
songs listened to We're Got to Have It Knye West
jay Z and Watch the Throne and Devils a Lie

(01:16:45):
Rick Cross. Wow, those are two good throwbacks, two good throwbacks.
I was gonna say something about Mega Stallion because like Texas,
you guys are in Texas, Like I don't. I don't
know if she ever pops in or you guys gone
to a concert. Drew was like, nah, don't ask him that.
I was like, I mean, the fucking they're in exist,
you might as well. Like she doesn't come yet. Maybe

(01:17:07):
maybe since we won, she'll she'll make an appearance. That
would be dope. Yeah, I think you could slide in
her d M and get an answer. Okay, my next one,
best Christmas gift. You've both gotten in your entire life.
It's a crazy questions, like so our entire life that's
a long time, I don't know, or just like the

(01:17:28):
one that's stuck out the moment. It's the holiday season
and I figure out throw a little Christmas joy in there.
Like when I was as you go, when I was
a kid, Um, I remember waking up. This is like
Germaine's prime, so he was just flourishing, having a great time.
I was the only time yet I woke up and
I had an air hockey table and my play room

(01:17:50):
area and I was like on the ground. So that
was my that's a great that's a great. Mine is
we got me and my sister got electric scooters one
year and we rode them like the entire Christmas and
then like never wrote them again, Like we just forgot
about them. But the day was the best morning ever.
We wrote up in on the street like too many

(01:18:10):
times they had to recharge them for the rest of
the day. But yeah, my dad was proud about that.
But we we kind of forgot about those afterwards. Like
one of those city scooters, right it was friend scooter,
like it was yeah, it was it was really that's
a laite just like just just rusting in your garage

(01:18:31):
right now, it might have to whip it back out
to celebrate. Take that I got. I got the last
question for me at least, So, like, my sister's going
through volleyball and everything, what would you say to someone
like me who wants to like help her get recruited

(01:18:52):
Because I know, like you play after your senior year, right,
it's a little different from Basta on that regard, And
I'm trying to like kind of tell her what I
went through and how I went about things. But I
know it is diff and I can only offer so
much help before it becomes like what you don't know
what you're talking about. So, like, what would you say
to like all the young girls out there that are
trying to get recruited, getting noticed and what they should

(01:19:14):
do to get get more attention and everything. Um, I
would say say, the best thing, Uh, your sister is
here in Dallas. Yeah yeah, okay, just finding a good club. Um,
Texas is really established, so a lot of the clubs
send you to really good tournaments qualifiers where there's a
lot of coaches, and I know the rules change based

(01:19:35):
on why they can talk to you. Since we've been
in college. But I know a lot of people try
to get filmed together and just send it out to
coaches if they're already not talking to people, but really
just making sure you're playing on a team that has
good exposure. Like basically, I mean, logan, did you did
au right? Yeah I did? But I did? Yeah I did.
I did not do a you I did? People call

(01:19:55):
j O's I don't know. Yeah, say, but I think
USA is pretty. I'm not gonna say it's better, but
I think it's a little more exposure. Basically, like I
b L vibes. So just making sure she's on a
club that's gonna go to those really good qualifiers a
tournaments where there's gonna be people that are going to
watch her. Yeah, it's huge. I know I'm trying to

(01:20:18):
like help her and talk to her, but I know
it's two totally different games, and I can only tell
her so much. Well too. On top of it, like
have her start like researching what she wants out of
a program in a school, so then like when it
comes on to it, she kind of knows what she
wants already. Like when I jumped into it, I was
like I played basketball growing up, so I knew nothing
about volleyball and my parents didn't either, and so like

(01:20:40):
we literally knew nothing when we started visiting schools and
talking to coaches, and so I was just kind of
like my eyes were wide, like whoa, Like I didn't
even realize offered all this stuff. And so I think
like researching that earlier and so you kind of have
like a better picture of like what you're looking for,
and like the later stages is like really important, so
things will become like super overwhelming. Yeah, that's really good advice.

(01:21:03):
And then, um, you want to talk about the camp
that you're having here pretty soon down in Dallas. Yeah,
having a camp on the twenty twod me and two
of my teammates. It's a middle blockers camp, so it's
just like hitting blocking, maybe a little serving, and then
we're doing an autograph session after, but basically just trying
to teach like general skill set being a middle and

(01:21:23):
just talking to the girls and kind of just getting
them involved. Every single time I come back home to drive,
there's like some little girl telling me, what are you
gonna do a camp? What are you gonna come back?
It was like I feel like now is a good time.
We won, we're gonna wanna come talk to us. But yeah,
is that camp open invite? Can I come get some reps?
Can I work on my middle I'd love to get

(01:21:44):
a little fill it out. We can do one on
one private session after we can talk it out. Well,
if you're a middle blocker in DFW, you know and
you want to get better, and you know where to go.
So that's right, you go to Drive Nation. The goat
will teach you everything you know and be you young

(01:22:06):
volleyball players. Just got some good advice from two stars guys.
I appreciate that's a rap for the show first and foremost,
but I appreciate both of you coming on me and
Drew are very thankful. Um, congratulations on a national championship.
I hope you guys enjoy it. Good luck with everything
moving forward, and shout out to the gang A seven
one agency. I know that you're all represented by them.
I need a shout out from each of you three

(01:22:29):
four the guys at seven one, so seven one love
seven one. Very appreciative, especially if Jermaine just taking care
of me and ladies. Thank you guys so much for joining.
It's huge. Thank you guys want to add you guys
should be drunk somewhere having fun, but we appreciate you

(01:22:51):
taking the time and hopefully your festivities go on for
a long time because not everyone can win a national championship,
myself included every day and y'all should flex that for
the rest of your life. So help you all the
best time coming up, especially leading Christmas. Thank you appreciate
for coping up. This has been a presentation of the

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