Kansas' Jalen Wilson Joins, HUGE Zags Weekend, Drew's Mental & Physical State, Milk Obsession? | Ep #5 |

Drew and Noah dive into the Zag's last two games vs. Baylor & Kent St. before being joined by Drew's former teammate and HS rival, star Kansas guard, Jalen Wilson.

Drew & Noah hit on:
- Drew's relationship with Kelly Olynyk
- Favorite memory of Andrew Nembhard
- Key focuses in film study
- Little improvements Drew's made
- Jalen's jump from 11ppg to 22ppg
- Jalen's National Championship memories
- Jalen's NBA Draft process
- Drew & Jalen competing against each other in HS

....Drew's obsession with milk...Ultimate pregame turn up song....Hardest position to play in sports...Jalen's leadership role....Drew's kiss in a box....Noah's gambling addiction?

Hosts: Drew Timme & Noah Buono

Guest: Jalen Wilson

Producer: Noah Buono

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
The following is a presentation of the College Athletes Network.
We were like, nah, like that, like we're going at it.
We can be friends after. But I think that was
the most special thing that like our class especially had
when we were going through it all. Yeah, man, we would,
we would no matter who we were facing, Like we
might be the best homies off the corridor and you know,
we get on that chorus is representing high school and

(00:25):
you know, me and you definitely be playing against each other.
Like it was just one of those things, man, like
who who, Who's gonna come out? And when we're done,
it's good luck to the next guy moving on. And
that was that's how it was. Welcome into episode five

(00:50):
of the Gimme Timmy Podcast. I'm your host Drew Timmy
here with my co host Noel Bono, and we're on
the College Athletes Network featuring on I Heart Radio. Please
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those stars, those reviews are important. You guys got us
all the way up to that rank spot in the

(01:12):
United States basketball podcast Rank Kings. That was big time
for Drew and I were only four episodes in this together,
so first and foremost, First and foremost, just want to
thank all of you. Do have a special guest coming
on later in the show, Jalen Wilson from Kansas. He's
having a great years off to a good start. Um,
I mean, Drew though that not to dwell on this

(01:33):
too much, but like pretty cool. I mean, like you've
only podcast at four times and like we're slowly climbing
that pole. We're slowly climbing. It's crazy, man. It's been
a it's been a great week for all Zags. We
got this podcast booming and starting to get a little
bit of a foothold. We had the man Kelly Olenik
in their house, got his jersey hung in the rafters,
and can we talk about Andrew Nimhard, Like, what what

(01:55):
is bro doing? Oh, he's going crazy? Last night checked
he was frying Steph Curry last night or Monday night.
That's what I saw. But it's a bad man right there.
What does zag weekend? Though? Kelly Olyn, It gets the
jersey hung and the rafters. You guys get a nice
bounce back when the podcast is having some success. Uh,

(02:16):
you know, Andrew nem Hard, even all the other guys
in the league or from the Gonzaga ballers in the
league are playing well. Like it, it's gotta be good
down in Spokane. It's gotta be good. It's great. Man.
And we got our home win streak extended to sixty
nine games, So that's pretty cool. Nine. I bet you
guys were weird about that. Huh. Um, you're pretty immature
for a co host. I have to say. Somebody. Uh

(02:38):
one of your guys beat reporters tweeted, like the video
of you guys at the presser and someone asking you
about it, and that was he made it the point
of emphasis of like, oh, sixty nine, like like was
there gonna be I don't know, that's not like definitely
was trying to bait us into something, but stupid. It's
like the number sixty nine, it's like what are like what?

(03:01):
I feel like you could be nine number. That's a
fun number. But you can it's easy easy. Um. Yeah,
So as we always start to show off, you know,
you guys had an unfortunate loss in the championship rematch.
The Baylor lost by one, you were up seven with
a minute thirty ago, you fouled out, didn't have your

(03:24):
ideal game, Um, but you had to bounce back. Win
versus Kent State, who's a really good mid major team,
Like people really sleep on that program, what they've accomplished,
how good they are, Like their tournament team for sure
they were last year? Were they last year? I think
they don't remember. I don't remember either. Um, I know
they made the conference tournament championship game. Anyway, Um, let's

(03:46):
get your thoughts on just the Zags, the lot, the
tough loss, dropping in the a P polls, fighting back
against the mid major team, almost lost that game, but
we're able to pull it out for that sixty nine win.
Break it down for us. Yeah, man, Um, that Baylor game,
you know, we got I think seven or something, and
uh Flagler hit two tough threes, Like that was one

(04:09):
of those things you just have to tip your hat too.
I mean, those are some tough shots. And then obviously
like the rebound to the foul that fouled me out,
really like that was a that was a physical game,
Like it was a fun, physical game, and I just
felt like that call didn't really reflect the physicality the game,
but you know, it happens, and um, we didn't execute

(04:32):
or stay composed, I guess, but it was a good
learning experience. And um, personally people are like, oh, you
didn't have like your normal stats that you had. Like, like,
I thought I played a pretty good game. I mean,
like the way they were guarding me, like it was
I was more of a facilitator than a score getting
shots for other people, which I thought I played good.

(04:53):
Then I thought my defense took a huge step that game,
being able to guard and everything and help. And um,
I thought personally for me, like it was, it was
a really good game. And then obviously and State I
think is a sweet six team team. The way they
have their guards and their bigs are solid, and they
play good defense, and they just always hang around. They're
always just like nipping at your achilles and stuff knocking

(05:15):
on the door. And the way we were able to
have such a quick turnaround from a mountdown like Baylor
to being down for and being able to come back
and really just kind of take charge of that game
with our defense, that was a huge step for this
team and a team that we've gone through some ship man,
we've We've played a lot of teams, we've taken the
crap ton of criticism. We we have a bunch of doubters,

(05:38):
and like the fact that we're able to stay together
as a group and rally and and respond to an
unfortunate situation so quickly. Is is very exciting for me,
especially a guy who's been around the block once or
twice and has seen a bunch of things like that's
that's winning DNA, that we show that we're able to
really learn and change the tide from that. So that
was awesome to see from the guys. I felt bad

(06:00):
for you and all of you obviously losing it's not fun,
but like just you being used to so much winning
and you kind of really have to having to adjust
to like just this different dynamic with this team, which
not a big deal. You guys have so much time
to figure it out, but it's like it's one of
those things for you where it's like you get in
your first three years of college and you're just winning, winning, winning,
and now you're getting accustomed to some early season, tough,

(06:22):
tough losses. Um, so it's got to be a weird
kind of adjustment for you. Yeah, I would definitely say
it's something I'm not used to, which is a good
thing to have. I mean to think that like we
could do that again is a possibility, but at the
same time, it's also unrealistic that that's very very hard
thing to do just because of how good college basketball is.

(06:44):
But yeah, it definitely is something that like it hurts
more and it's an unfamiliar feeling, but you know that
just makes the winds even more sweeter that you might
have taken for granted in the past. Yeah, and you guys,
you know you fould out you had the seven point
lead with a minute thirty left, kind of just didn't
just didn't go your way. Chips in't fow you right.
Baylor just kept clawing, kept clawing. And then there was

(07:06):
this moment in the Kent State game where they were
up four. I'm pretty sure it was under the last
media time house. We were under four, and it was like, yo,
like if they don't get a basket here, like and
they put the ball back in Ken's hand like this
is there's some trouble on the line. And I'm pretty
sure if I remember the sequence correctly, when they were
up four, um, someone on their team either missed a three.

(07:29):
I think they missed a three pointer, but I don't
remember if it was the possession when sincere carry got
switched onto you, you got switched on to him and
he was playing one on one on you when he
settled for the three ball. I think that was before that.
But regardless that that moment I'm referring to, when you're
you're down four, they miss, you go down. Julian Strawler
hits that three pointer that cuts it to one, and
even me watching at home, I was like, oh, that's

(07:51):
so important because like if he doesn't that's such a
momentum swing. If he doesn't hit that, then you go
down the court and you're risk going down six or seven,
and then the chips start to fall a different way.
And so I felt like the game turned right there.
You were still down one to hit the shop. But
I was like, well, they're fine because it's only one
point game. You go down, you get the stop, Malachi
comes down, he gets that and one layup um or

(08:13):
maybe that was a little bit there was something maybe
you had to lay up you you remind me I had, Yeah,
I had like a little float of the float. Yeah,
then like I got foul split the line to the
shock of no one, Julian tipped it. Now got the one. Yeah,
what a fire sequence. That place was on fire. Um.

(08:33):
I was on fire from the seat at home going
like a small little wager on the game too, So
you know I was I was eligibility ears don't hear that? Um?
But no, I mean like, dude, twenty nine point seventeen rebounds,
Like that's that's how you bounce back from a tough

(08:53):
loss and you get back on your feet, you get
your team back on their feet. Um. So probably a
pretty good feeling. Also, probably pretty cool. Like we mentioned,
you know, Kelly Olynnott New Jersey retired to do it
in to him, um, and then Andrew nemhard do anything.
I have two quick questions just about those guys, like
Kelly Olynnok, your interactions with him, break it down for us,
Like how was he involved in you coming to Gonzaga

(09:15):
and then throughout your time at Gonzago like probably comes
around places, pick up with you, guys, stay in touch
with him at all, Like what's what's your relationship with him?
Like yeah, man, he's he's a great dude. And doing
my recruitment, it's guys like him that like draw you
to a program like that, like the way he wasn't
like a big recruit or anything, like he red shirted
and just worked his tail off and he was able

(09:36):
to just become the player he is now. And like
you have guys like him that Collins, Sabonis, Carnos, like
they just have like a multitude of bigs ruey BC.
Like guys like that like that show you that, like
it doesn't matter your skill set, like if you're unique,
you can fit in. And I thought, like, I feel
like I'm a pretty unique player as well, Like my

(09:57):
game kind of has like a bunch of pieces from someone,
but you can't say, like I play exactly this person.
And that's kind of what I thought those Eiggs had,
and especially him, like they have their own like unique
flare and take on things. So like that was huge.
And then obviously like he comes back and he will
work out with us and like always just teaching stuff
and then he always checks up on like me and stuff.

(10:17):
And I know he was with CHET too when he
was here. Like it's just cool to have like a
program like that where like guys go to the league
and they still like care about the program and care
about the players, and like I want want to see
like us succeeded. It's really cool. Yeah, and he was
obviously such a successful zag like they were just as good.
Well I mean still they got their first number one

(10:39):
ranking with him with his team. Yeah, So, I mean,
and he's he's had a longer NBA career than I
think a lot of people would have expected. So shout
out to him. And he's on that he's on that
gritty Utah Jazz team that's just busting ass, Like I
don't know what the good team that was supposed to
suck and they all are just going stupid. He's like,

(10:59):
he's just a true NBA players. He's gonna be one
of those guys who just can say like he's had
a solid at NBA career. And then you look at
the young cat like Andrew nem Hard so who's an
early second round pick who's just having you know, this
early success, and it's just it's gonna be cool for
you to see like obviously you've seen Jalen uh, Corey Kisberg,
all these guys. You have so many teammates in the

(11:19):
NBA and to see them hard like I was watching
the game the other night and him like he had
I think two or three possessions in a row where
he was just cashing three balls in Steph Curry's mouth,
and you're like, I mean if that was your your
teammate a couple of years ago, I know how I
would have reacted, like like damn, bro, Like you know
I really like that. I mean it was crazy, and

(11:39):
like the crazy part is like that's just Andrew. Like
you know, he's just gonna rise to the occasion and
be that consistent guy and like step up when he
needs to, and like people are like, oh, he's not
a first round pick, he's not this or I think
he's showing everybody how good he really is. And like
it's cool to finally see people like really like pulling

(12:00):
form and supporting him because he was getting hated on
a lot and like to see him like just do
what we know he can do and like at the
highest level and like people starting to realize like how
good he is, Like it just makes you like happy,
is like a friend and a teammate to see that,
like people are like really appreciating his greatness and like
all those stuff like working everything that he's put into this.
He's in a good spot too in Indiana with like

(12:21):
the young guys around him and coach Rick Carlisle. The
Dallas favorite for you, I'm sure unless unless he went
out on bad terms with Drew Timmy too. I hope not.
He went out on good terms of me. Yeah, he
browns the ship and he was the hell of a coach.
Can't can't complain that you guys are one championship. I can't.
But that's what I'm saying, ain't there? Um? Okay? Well quickly,
One favorite on court memory of Andrew Nemhard something he

(12:45):
did last year where you were just like, yo, bro,
what the let's go give me? Give me, give us something.
I ain't gonna lie. Like there's a couple of games
where teams like to sack off on him or go
under his ball screens and he'll and he'll line up
and just cash it, hold his fall through like right
at the other team's coach and just go fuck you.

(13:07):
He would he would say that, yes, and talk his
ship and like and he's a pretty stowit guy and
like he's pretty yeah, but like when he gets that
fire and he like gets that intensity, it's like it's
infectious because he doesn't get it all the time. You know.
It's like when he gets locked in and when someone
like disrespects him and he like sticks it right in
their face, like that's the that's peak Andy right there,

(13:30):
That's that's what I love to see from him. So
like it's just so cool. I underestimated his um. I
guess I would have went under on the ball screen
with him too. I haven't. I haven't like watched a
ton but like his release points kind of low below
his chin, but he can just he flings it so
quick like like yeah, it's lower kind of like where
Trey Young releases, and you know, maybe it's more susceptible

(13:50):
to getting blocked if he has a taller defender on it.
But with the way he was mixing up Curry the
other night, I don't think I'm gonna get that image
out of my head because I was like I might
have had a little small wager on that game too,
and so I needed the least, do you have a problem.
I needed. I needed the Warriors to come back. So
I'm like watching him mix him up and I'm like no, no, no, no,
what then are you doing? Bro? No? No, no, no no, no,

(14:12):
and then he just started cashing and cashing, and I
was like, all right, I mean, I I got I
can root for the former's act, but yeah, I thought
it was pretty cool just seeing him kill it. Um
just all all your these former teammates and yours and
and then ultimately see you guys kind of get back
on track. Um, and you got coming up. But you've
got the hometown or the home state? What in state rivalry?

(14:34):
Thank you? That's the word you're looking for. Yep, yep,
maybe you're Maybe you're the real the real host here.
Um in state you and your tournament talk. You know,
I gotta keep you in check and my gambling addiction.
Um yeah in state? Um god, I lost it again.
What is it called in rivalry? Are you guys even rivals?
You're not rivals? I don't even want to say nothing

(14:58):
about it, but like, well, I mean, is it a
common thing like you got you play him every year?
Or what? It's not like the Apple Cup, you know,
like Washington versus Wazi and football or nothing like, Right,
we haven't played it. I think I've I've only played
him once, like we we haven't played like the past
two years, like it's a rivalry, but like, I don't
think it's like the Apple Cup or anything like that. Yeah,

(15:20):
so still a cool little matchup. Um, yeah, both teams,
both schools. Um, we're gonna jump to a quick break
here and when we come back, Man, we got some
cool stuff. I told you guys are gonna get into
Drew's workout regimen. That man has been dunking the ball
a little bit more, a little bit more than everybody's
probably expected. So if you want to hear about myself included,
you want to hear a little bit more about that,

(15:40):
you stay with us. We got that in a whole
bunch more coming up right when we come back. All right,
welcome back into episode five of the Gimme Timmy Podcast
with Drew Timmy and Noah Bono. Drew talk to me, baby,
and man, I'd really appreciate it if y'all would subscribe,
follow us on social media and even leave a comment
or write a review. If you do, would warm my

(16:01):
heart and maybe I'll mail you a kiss. It just
be awesome. But how you can do that? You can
put it in the box, send it to what How
does that work? You put it your lips like you
put you put a piece of paper and you kissed
the paper, and then you fold the paper so the
kiss doesn't get ruined. And then you like lick the envelope.
But you get I don't need to breakdown, but you
gotta kiss something with something. You gonna put something on
your lips, a little chap stick, a little something with

(16:23):
some color, you know what I mean. And then I'm
not a lipstick guy. Okay, Well, then you're not gonna
be able to send them kisses. So you just lie
to every person who listens to the show. And now
they're not going to come back. So you know what,
But it's a thought that counts. If you get a
mail that counts advertisement. If you get a envelope from
me and it's a blank piece of paper, just snow,
my love is on that paper. It's a kiss, and
mine's attached to it too, from very far um, then

(16:46):
then people are going to burn it. They're not gonna
want it. Got good lips. Come on, all right, I
want to talk a little bit about your mental state,
your physical state. You know, we're five episode. This is
our fifth episode of the podcast. You guys are eight
or nine games into this season, almost Christmas, most conference playtime.
I just want to kind of get an update on

(17:07):
your mental state, your physical state, how you're feeling, you know,
what you're doing to maintain um, you know, just on
a day to day basis. Yeah, So basically like my
mental state, I would say it's been a little weird,
like losing so much for our standards, so like I
would say from that aspect, like it's been kind of
a challenge for me, just from like it's kind of

(17:28):
like this is kind of out of the norm, so
just kind of adjusting to that and like really like
spending more time like watching film and focusing harder, you know,
and like really being more engaging doing practice and stuff.
Like I would say that stuff is hell, but mentally
feel good. Physically I'm a little beat up, not gonna lie,
like just the regulations and grind, like it just is

(17:49):
what it is. Like your body's gonna take some hits,
and I feel like I feel like by the time
like you hit conferences, when your body gets used to
like kind of that everyday grind, So kind of just
like in between that like getting used to it and stuff,
and then obviously like I'm in doing like lifting in
the mornings before, just getting that extra work in, whether
it's mobility or like little therapy if I needed just

(18:11):
some strength stuff to kind of just help me. Like
you talked about earlier, how I've been duncing more. Like
me and my guy t K, We've been making sure
to really like work on my hip and core mobility
and stability so I can be more balanced and get
more explosion when I'm going to the rim and kind
of just like that confidence in those areas where like
I feel these little improvements have made it like made

(18:31):
me think more about dunking, like that that dunk I
had last night where I split the double team and
dunked it like I guarantee you last year. That is
a below the below the backboard below the net finger
roller floater. No, it was a cool play to see
you kind of first of all, read the double well
enough where they just both got off you and it

(18:52):
was like, oh, full full drive to the rim. I'm
wide open, and then you had the you know, the
the shift in mindset to dunk it, which was super cool. Um.
I do have a couple of follow ups just on
some of the things you said. First all, you said
you're watching a lot of film, which I love to
hear because I'm an X and those junkie nerd I
love paying attention to that stuff. So, like, when you're

(19:12):
watching film, what are key focuses for you that either
your coaches are honing in on and for you in particular,
or that you are kind of just on your own,
you know, paying attention to the most. I would say
a lot of it. This is my positioning on defense
lately with the coaches, just like making sure I'm getting
to the right spots because like there's sometimes my men

(19:33):
will like they'll exchange and like maybe I don't jump
all the way over to the nail, or I'm kind
of like helping my man in weak side, or like
maybe I should get like out of the charge circle.
A little positioning stuff on defense I've really been trying
to focus on just because that's an area where I
need to grow in right. And then also just like
myself just kind of watching my footwork and how I'm moving,

(19:55):
and like seeing the double teams, like from a bird's
eye view, which is the TV camera, just because and
so many double teams, Like I'm not looking at my man,
I'm looking at the two dudes and help because the top,
the top guy or the is going to rotate over
to that guard who made the past more times than
not to take away the easy outlet. So most of
the time when I'm in a double team, I have

(20:16):
to look across the court at the two extra guys
or the guy and the dunker that we put so
like even seeing like even seeing times like on film,
or maybe I could a quick smun bassline, or like
last night where I just passed faked up in the
air to no one. I just passed fake to no
one and they both leaned up and I was able
to split it. Like looking at those instances where maybe

(20:36):
I could like do something a little more crafty or
even make a better pass out of doubles like those
are the things I've kind of been looking at lately
because that's what's been happening a lot more. And you
you did address on the pod, you know some of
your turnovers little lack of days ago. Some for some
just like not really even purposeful, just like Ditzy, you know, yeah,

(20:58):
they just had like you know, traveling, Like I can
live with those turnovers that I can't. I can't have
the turnovers where I make the bad pass right, try
to do too much. I've chilling those Like I think
I had a four assistant two turnovers last night, Like
that was huge. Everything is so dependent on you when
you're like you said, wheeling and dealing with the ball. Um,

(21:18):
It's like, you know, obviously you're the power forward center,
but if you're you're kind of like the point center
point forward. If you're turning the ball over, it's like
any team's point guard turning the ball or you know
what I mean. So it's like I'm saying, like I like,
if I'm the facilitator, I can't just throw the ball away,
Like that's just stupid. It's good self awareness by you
obviously to just kind of keep honing in on perfecting

(21:39):
that and keep making plays in important parts of the game.
Like you guys will continue to have sex. Six I
said sex, and I mean we're not gonna have sex.
I meant to say, something's wrong with my brain today.
That's a crap. I don't know how you suck that up. Um,
But no, like just getting you involved late in games
like that, and you know you want the ball in

(21:59):
your best player's hands because you live and die with
your your decision. Man, I just did it again. Decisions.
What's a decision? Um decisions. It's like it's like putting
the ball in lebronze hand at the end of the games,
like putting the ball in k D's hand in any game.
They're gonna live with those results regardless of you know,
keeping the ball in your hands and just getting you
more comfortable. I kind of noticed it too on TV two.

(22:20):
Right away you get the ball in the paint, or
maybe you're in the midpost area and you know the
doubles coming. Sometimes maybe even they'll throw that third body
on you, and that week side is generally always going
to be open because the you know, help sides so
pulled over. Um. But you mentioned the one thing about
yourself on defense where you're like not pulled over enough,

(22:40):
you're not at the nail. And I always feel like,
you know, with my experience in college basketball, something my
coach is always emphasized that people was like, dude, get
the funk over, like and I never understood why it
was so complicated for players to just like pull over you.
All you gotta do is take two extra steps. And
I always think it's because, like, you know, they're so

(23:01):
worried about not being able to get back to their man,
not being able to close out on time. But like
I've done it myself where you just you just take
those two extra steps over, you know, because you know
where you need to be on defense. I don't. I
don't know. It's never made any sense to me when
like players are constantly there's not a knock on you.
It's just like a general observation where people I swear.

(23:22):
I just think it's so funny because I've seen so
many good defensive players that I played with that like
they just get screamed at because they don't take that
one or two extra step over. It's like, you know,
you gotta be over there, you just take Is it laziness?
What what are we doing? I mean, I would say,
like it's just mental focus. Like I's like the more
tired you get, the more like you kind of let
your guard down and you're not thinking as hard. It's like, man,

(23:45):
I don't have to go all the way in there
or something. And I don't know, I just think it's
kind of like it's kind of human nature, I guess
in a way to like, you know, like when you're
a little tired, just to kind of like chill like
and and honestly like being real, Like defense is not
as fun. You're way more mentally engaged and focus on offense.
So I think, like trying to stay locked in on

(24:06):
like defense is something that I've been trying to work on.
It's it is so easy to get into a lull
on defense and fall asleep. You defense, you have to
be on your toes and reactionary every You have to
be so cognizant on the defensive end of the floor,
not that you don't have to on offense, but it
has to be ten x of what it is on
the offensive side, because like you're not in control of

(24:27):
what's going on, Like you gotta read and react, and
it's like, man, you will get burnt to a crisp
if you take one second off, especially in college. That's
what I'm saying, and that's why I always say I
think cornerback is the hardest position to play out of
any sport, any anything like that is the hardest position.
That's just a true statement. It's a true statement. It
goes to your point, like you they have to be

(24:48):
so locked in and they're so reactive, like it's kind
of like how it is on defense, Like you just
lose your focus from one second you're burned for its hutter.
It's like the same thing you give up weak side
dunk or get that cut, Like it's one mistake and
it can cost you. Funny you bring that up, because
every time I watch football I always say, like, I
don't know how people who are cornerbacks at any level,
and then obviously the NFL especially, like how they even

(25:09):
enjoy it, Like how is that fun? How is that fun?
Chasing these people who are trying to guess where they're
gonna go, Like I can't imagine that being my I mean, yeah,
they make bread and whatever. You know, they got a
good life. But just in terms of like that being
your your role in that sport, like okay, yeah you're
on defense, you get to tackle blah blah blah. But
in terms of like guarding one on one of receiver, no, thanks,

(25:31):
never wanted, never would want to do it ever. Yeah,
I'm more of a wide receiver type of guy. Now,
you're a tight end. You're not a wide receiver. Wide
receiver in a d N I think you'd be a
good d N. Uh. You're the kind of guy that
like if you put on like forty pounds, you'd be
a dominant guard. A dominant guard not to just totally
like shoot on you and flux on you, but co

(25:53):
defensive m v P. My freshman year on the freshman
a team for football. I don't care about that freshman football.
If you said varsity, I would have gave you some
some flowers. I don't care. I'm big. Fourth grade fourth grade,
I was an unstoppable wide receiver. I had nine catches.
Who the fuck? What fourth grade is? Catching nine passes?
How does that quarterback even throw me nine balls? Like?

(26:16):
I was a problem. It was a real problem. Um.
You mentioned though you're like physically like a little beat up,
which is expected, but like, and we touched a little
bit on one of the episodes, episode three, maybe about
um your recovery and how you've kind of taken it
more serious, but like, you know, what else can you
do on a day to day basis to kind of
combat that that physical you know, fatigue and just kind

(26:40):
of trying to get back to a percent Like is
it weight room? Is it diet? Is it ice tubs?
Is it everything in between? Like? Are you doing all
of that? Yeah? So, like I've got this meal service
that like sends me meals like obviously just trying to
get better on my nutrition just because that obviously, like
that's that helps a lot. And then staying hydrated. It

(27:00):
is probably the biggest thing that like I've had to
like actually like focus on on. Yeah, I mean, like
right here next to my said, I got three water bottles,
like I just can't yeah can those like just making
sure like I'm just constantly like drinking water, like thinking
about it because that that's an important part. And I'm

(27:20):
I've never really been the biggest water guy. Like I
love milk. I'm not weird for liking milk of milk,
like whole milk, skim milk. Baby, is that really what
you drink? M Well, like back home, Yeah, I used
to drink Like you're gonna think this is really weird.
I think a lot of things to do is weird,

(27:40):
but go ahead. I used to drink like four to
five gallons of milk a week, four to five gallons
a week. But I love milk, like I would like
meals before practice after practice, like if I'm chilling outside
like I just played basketball outside, like swimming the pool,
like I want to glass like I used to. I

(28:01):
used to only drink milk like at home. But I've
never broken a bone. Well I've not gone, but I
broke my nose, but like that doesn't count. You know
what I'm saying. Broke my nose too. Yeah, I guess
it doesn't count. But dude, hold on, hold on, reel
it back in, reel it back in. Four to five
gallons of milk a week is disgusting. First of all,

(28:22):
I must say. Second of all, there's that crazy myth
about like kids who drink a lot of milk when
they're younger. All the calcium in it helps them grow.
So maybe it makes sense why you're so big. Um pause,
nothing to do with my parents height, but like, yeah,
that that must be its mom and dad? Uh eleven
and six eight? What the okay? Well, I take the

(28:45):
milk comment back. I know your dad what big? Timmy
is six eight? What the what the fuck? And your
mom is five eleven, so that's very tall for a woman,
very tall. So yeah, okay, I didn't. I didn't know
the height was like that in the family. I could.
The pictures didn't do justice anyway. Milk, the milk, the

(29:06):
milk helps I'm six five, Like I didn't drink a
ton of milk, but like I don't and I don't
have like a ton of height in my family. Like
there's not a lot of people six five, but I
would say there's a lot of people over like six
foot at least. I'm definitely an outlier at six five
in my family. But I don't know. I I'm not
gonna at four to five gallons of milk, like it
just it to me doesn't taste that good. And I'm

(29:29):
a whole milk guy. I love it. I can't lie
it to something about it. I don't want to. I
don't want to keep being negative about your love for milk.
I think you just think it's like, uh, like you
guys wanted you and Jay wanted to just tag team
me about Ranch. Well, can you can, Like couldn't. First
of all, you need to just control your milk addiction
because like it's just I don't drink milk anymore. Really,

(29:49):
like I'll have a glass if I go home. I
only go home. I wasn't tag teaming. We weren't tag
teaming you about Ranch, Dude, that's a universal thing. Like
you don't put it on pizza, man, it's it's I
was watching someone do it the other day and I
was like, listen. I came to the conclusion people who
are dipping their pizza in ranch are people that do
not know how to enjoy pizza. They're not You look

(30:11):
at pizza is like a fucking uh like a bag
of chips. You dip your chips in your onion dip? Like,
what are we doing? You don't put it in ranch.
It's not a chicken wing. It's got sauced, it's got cheese,
it's got bread. What the fund do you need this creamy?
It's weird, man, it's weird. Why can't I just enjoy
like pizza how I want to enjoy it? This is
my overall point. Isn't the world we live in today

(30:33):
all about accepting? Yes? But why can't you just accept
how I like to eat my pizza on the phone.
The reason I have a problem with it is because
I think that you do it because you've never had
really good pizza. So every piece of pizza you've been eating,
I'm from New York or I'm automatically the pizza guy. Yes, yes,
the pizza guy I am. I'm not don't about the

(30:54):
guy you probably when it comes to pizza, I am
you probably love like a little Caesar's bro like I don't.
I don't eat freezer. I don't eat freezer pizza. I'm
not I'm not a weird You're not a joint o guy.
Oh no, it's face My problem. That's my point to you,
is that you're looking for an extra flavor from all
the bad pizza you're eating. So you're like, Okay, well
can I dip this in Let's try rich Oh, let's

(31:17):
try barbecue sauce. Like you're probably doing all that, probably
dipping it in blue cheese too, like, because you're not
getting not getting the full amount of fulfillment from just
a regular good slice of pizza. I've been to Chicago
and had like their pizza, like I just like it
with ranch. Like Chicago style pizza is one of the
best pizzas, right, It's got the deep dish. I mean,

(31:39):
people enjoy it. Sorry, Like I like to put ranch
on that, Like, is that a problem. I've been in
New York before. I've had pizza like I like it
with ranch, and you dipped those great delicious slices of
pizza and ranch as well. Yes. I can't even believe
you brought this up again and we're talking about it again.
I was serious. Sorry, yes SII yes, Siria, you can't help.

(32:00):
You can tell this man it's okay to dip ranch
in pizza. You can help Drew with his fucking milk
and ranch problem. Clearly you just have an addiction to
dairy that you have some sort of problem. But I'm
glad that you're cleaning up that portion of your diet
that much. That amount of milk and being this high
level of an athlete would not make a good company.

(32:21):
That stop that stopped liking hikes like like into high school.
I'm not gonna let you live that down. I'm glad
that j Billis was on my side because he said
it best. That's aberrant behavior. It doesn't enter a pizza conversation.
Ranching ranch doesn't enter a pizza conversation. He took the
words out of my mouth. So when we hang out,
when when you come whenever you finally decided to come

(32:42):
up here and get in the official give Me tim
Me podcast Mecca the mecca, Like this whole space, like
this is the mecca for the podcast. We're gonna look
at some pizza. You can pick the pizza place. What
doesn't matter asking for ranch, I would I would like
you got to pick the spot. I don't you gonna
tell me what the best pizza spot is around there? Well,

(33:02):
apparently I don't know pizza, so I'm not a lot
of kids. You can't. But you don't have a lot
of options out there on the West Coast. I can
tell you that. Alright, a couple of fan questions. We
got here to wrap up segment too. Before we go
to break, we got Anthony as in our says favorite
and least favorite parts of the draft process. Mm hmm.
Favorite part was just being able to like go to

(33:25):
Chicago and be like do the draft combine just because
like you watched so much as a kid and everything,
and that was kind of like a surreal moment for me.
And then least favorite part is probably how quick you
have to travel all the time to go from workout
to work out. Okay, next one, This is my This
is from my old high school basketball coach, Mike Garronski
is my guy. Pre and postgame music and meal. What's

(33:48):
a good one like that? What do you got so
pregame meal? Like? That's pretty standard. We have like noodles, steak, potatoes,
broccoli salad, like on the hotel or at the road
or even at home. That's usually we have free game.
And then the last long I listened to before every game,
it's the last song that I personally play like and
I'm ready to go is twenty minutes by low Oozy.

(34:11):
I love it. I said, why do you keep cold? Yeah?
Full blast and like it started last year or no,
my sophomore year in the tournament, I listened to that
song and I went crazy, and I was like, I
listened to it again and kept going crazy, so like
it's kind of just been this thing where like before
every game, like that's the last song I listened to.

(34:32):
I love that it's before it's time to go out
because it's like it's like twenty minutes till I'm on,
Like I'm on, Oh yeah, that's fire. And that's great
because that song is a fucking banger. Um, timeless banger,
timeless banger. Yeah, we we're gonna do a music segment
one of these next five episodes of The True because
I'm a music junkie and I know if you play,
if you play sports, you've got an arsenal of songs
you go through. We kind of hit on that with

(34:54):
Jay last week and his it's a thousand song playlist
that he goes through. Okay, we got one more. Would
you rather someone guard you with long arm arms are
quick feet? I like that? That's from Eric Martinez. Wow. Um,
that's a tough question. Honestly, Yeah, I guess I would
say long arms because usually, like I'm pretty good at

(35:18):
scoop getting under arms, like moving moving arms around with
my head, fake ball fakes. So because I usually use
my quick feet to get around that and negate that advantage.
So I would say, like quicker feet would probably be
like my least favorite of the two. I think this
question wasn't for me, but I'm gonna answer it anyway.

(35:39):
I think I think I think I don't like the
long arms thing. Dude, they get I mean, you're more
of a shooter two though, so like in perimeter guys
like yeah, closing out like it affects your shot way more.
I guess I think I've always just struggled with people
that have those long arms, like being able to reach
in on me while I'm handling it, because I'm not
I'm not the best. I'm not going to break you

(36:01):
down off the dribble and get by you. Like so
if you have long arms and you might be quicker,
quicker than me, Like, yeah, that's a detriment for me.
So and I would say I'm pretty good at like
shielding the bond using my body to create those windows,
so like it's more of the feat. I guess I
would worry about them along our arms. Yeah, you got
that thick, wide frame, all right, and we're gonna go

(36:25):
to a quick break. We come back, man, we got
we got a big one coming up. Jalen Wilson from
Kansas joining the podcast. We're gonna shoot the ship with
him for a little bit in our last home stretch
of the episode. Drew and him go way back. He's
off to a killer start. He's seventh in the nation
right now and scoring. So please stay with us. We'll
be right back. All right, Welcome back into episode five

(36:46):
and give me Timmy Podcast with Drew, Timmy and Noah Bono.
We're here with our guests Jalen Wilson from the University
of Kansas. Drew. Before we get into it, you know
the drill, take us away, guys. If you don't mind.
Please subscribe, leave a comment, leave a star. I'll mail
you a kiss in the mail or something will be awesome.
So go ahead do that, all right? You start us off, Drew?
What what what do you got for Janalen? Man? What's up? Jalen?

(37:08):
Thank you for coming on the show. First and foremost
appreciate you joining us. Yeah, Man, I appreciate you coming on. Um.
We've been going at it for a while. Man, we've
we've been teammates, we've been rivals. Um. You you knocked
me out of the playoffs in high school. Then I
was able to get you back in uh Florida. What
was that a couple of years ago? And then you
got the Natty so you got the upper hand on me. Man,

(37:29):
I think we're gonna have to have a rematch and
so I can sell the score. Yeah, let's do it. Man.
I think the photo Force in Texas this year too,
so that be Hello, no better place to have a finale, man, Jamalen,
you're up there a pretty good start though, Like you're
averaging eleven point your average eleven points the last two seasons,
and you you tested the draft waters both years. You
come back this year and you you know, major jump

(37:50):
from eleven all the way up to twenty one point nine, uh,
seventh in the nation. Like what's been different for you?
What's kind of just been you know, shifting mindset, shifting
mentality for you to kind of just make that's a
big jump. So let's talk about that a little bit.
Probably just my approach to the to the season, you know,
losing so many people. Um, you know, we had a
really good team last year and uh, you know, luckily

(38:12):
some guys were drafted, and you know, I saw my
opportunity coming back to uh just to capitalize on everything
that I that I saw from myself. Um, you know,
I felt like we I've had a great two years previously,
but I think I had a lot left in the
tank and I kind of just wanted to come back
and and give it all I had and you know,
just just approached the game. You know, I look at
old child light last year and he was a guy

(38:34):
that let us, um, you know, start off high in
the season just continue just to get better and better
as the year went on. So I kind of just
you know learned from that, and you know, my whole
approach this year was to just be the best that
I can be you know, on both ends of the floor.
Uh you know, obviously, you know, having that championship, you
feel what it's like, and you know, you just want
to get back to to that, to that style of play,

(38:55):
and uh, you know, I feel like we're capable of
doing that. But that was my main approaches year, just
trying to maximize my full potential in college, you know,
and get everything out of it. I would say to
add on that too, like I feel like you've kind
of been not like obviously you can handle what you've
shown that, but like you were kind of forced into
that because usually you think of a Kansas team, you
think of like I'm McCormick and as a bookie, like

(39:17):
you guys usually have like a dominant five man and
like y'all y'all going small kJ at the five now.
So like how much of like has coach self kind
of shifted, like his view on the offense and giving
you the keys to really take over. It's been a lot.
It's been different. You know, I've been here four years
and I've always had a big man to uh to
rely on and stuff like that, and now with these
younger guys kind of stepping into that role early. Um

(39:40):
kJ being undersized like how he is. It's it's been different,
but you know that's why I came back. You know,
I wanted to have it on my shoulders. I wanted
to be that the confidence that we needed and the
guy to to lead us and then do different things.
And uh, you know, I'm always a guy's for a challenge.
University has always always been a part of my life.
So just another thing to add on to it. And

(40:00):
you know, my main priority now is just getting guy
to understand what real college basketball is. You know a
lot of these guys are younger. But uh, also just
to get him on a championship mindset, you know, let
him know how hard it is and how fun it
is to to get there, and uh, you know, it's
just it's just a daily grind. But you know, I'm
blessed to being my position that. I mean, you know
I would I wouldn't want to be in any other

(40:22):
point in life. And why I am right now. Yeah,
that's to I think something me and Drew been touching
on two since you know it's his senior year as well.
It's just like the emphasis on leadership and like you're saying,
to get guys on board with that championship mentality, especially
stringing along the young guys, making sure that they're you know,
up to speed. It's obviously a different game, but like
how much have you been able to embrace just like

(40:43):
coming back and being that, you know, that dominant voice
in the locker room where like when you speak up,
like you know whether your name the captain or not.
But it's just like that level of respect of like, yo, man,
like he's he's done this. Like if I'm a freshman,
I gotta you know, really pay attention. So can what
he's telling us a lot, man, I tried to, you
know since day one, put my foot on the on
the program him this year, just being somebody that you

(41:06):
can lean to, not only just on the court, but
off the court. Um, you know, Drew knows how hard
it is to get to a championship game. And like
at that level of play in the final four, Um,
no matter who you're playing is it's top notch. You
know a lot of younger guys don't realize now that
you know, one possession in the first half can can
catch up with you in the second half. And you know,

(41:26):
as simple plays that that that may not be magnified
now because early in the season we'll be magnified and
later on. So I've just been trying to get him
to lock in, you know, not not be too high
and too low, you know, playing. You know, we're getting
everybody's best shot this year coming off of that win,
and you know it's been it's been difficult as sometimes
just because guys are still gonna adjust it. But I've

(41:48):
just been trying to be the voice, you know, except
all the responsibility, you know, good and bad, because you
know a lot of these guys are being put in
so role they haven't been in before, and you know,
me being through a lot here, uh, you know, I
just wanna be able to help them learn as much
as they can as quickly as I can. You know,
years can fly by so fast, So just being able
to you know, help him out as much as I
can so the ones that do stay and the ones

(42:09):
that do, you know, move on to lead. You know,
I just want to be able to have that little
imprint you know, in their in their time here for sure,
you got any um shoutouts for some young cats like
Grady Dick and just some of those young guys like
there's who you've not to single him out, but just
who's impressed you the most, who's kind of just like
gotten caught up to speed a lot quicker than maybe
you know, you would have thought. Now. Grady's been great man,

(42:31):
He's he's one of the guys U one of the
youngest guys that I know that that's they're able to
do what he does. I mean, I think in the
Bahamas he made like his first five out of six
threes or six out of seven threes. Like his confidence
is just through the roof. You know, he doesn't even
remember the last three shot, whether it's a airball or
nothing but the bottom, Like he just shoots the next shot.

(42:51):
And that's what you needed a guy like that. I mean,
it's it takes a full team to get to where
we want to get to, and uh, it's gonna take
younger guys being having to have that confidence of an
older guy um to get there. And you know, he's
nothing time that he's everything that we need in a shooter,
rebound and runner, and uh, you know, to be only
nineteen years old is crazy to see him do. I

(43:11):
definitely got to ask you what was your favorite moment
about that tournament run, like one of the moments I
think about just because obviously, like you know where Hommi
is always like cheering you on and stuff. But like,
like I thought, like one of the best moments I
had was was ver crating because that was such a
battle and like the just the rivalry and everything like
that's that's what comes to my mind about like that

(43:32):
defined y'alls running. I thought, so, like, what do you
think was like the best moment of y'all's tournament or
a moment that you were most proud of. I think
the moment I'm most proud of is probably just just
just to see the how how like better we got
through the tournament? You know, we we are we lost
our last what three to the last five games in

(43:53):
a regular season, and you know, we weren't we weren't
really sure what the postseason held for us at that time.
But you you net it on the spot man, after
that crazing game, it kind of just put us in
another level. Like, know, if we can win ugly games
like that, not playing well but against a great team
like crazy, imagine what we can do against good teams
when we're when we're clicking and you know, I think
one moment that that singles that out is that game

(44:14):
against Miami. Um, I don't think we've been trailing at
halftime in any game, and you know they came out
on fire. We're down seven and a half and I'm
not playing the best game, but are all our mindsets
were just like you know, we got a whole another
half to do it. And I think we went on
like a thirty two like seven run in the second
half end up winning a game, but like twenty or thirty.

(44:35):
But that was just a the final moment to to
get us to the final four, of course, but just
the shows like what kind of team we were? But
something for both of you, please, what what is it
like playing in that big people can be in an
arena football stadium, like everybody feels so far away from
you guys, like the courts like in the middle. I mean,
you are playing in front of eighty thou people like that,

(44:56):
and you know you both made the championship game, so
over the course of two games, you're playing in front
of what a hundred and sixty thousand people Like That's
to me, that's fucking mind blown, man. I think about that, like,
God damn I'd say the craziest point is just like
when you're on the court, especially last year and Nola,
the lights are dammed around so you only see the

(45:18):
fans that are like on like level with the court.
So I can see my family and like, you know,
a lot of the people that travel with us, but
everybody else is looking like ants because it's so dark
and you can't you can't see any faces. But I mean,
all you can do is just here and uh, you know,
like any any certain play that that you know, get
the crowd involved, it does, but like, yeah, I only

(45:39):
saw that if you didn't have a light on you.
It was just like dots because it was just so many.
It was crazy, and you're elevated, so everyone like that
you can't see it below you, you know, and everyone
else is just like all wold. I love to see
a Kansas Condaga final four national championship games. That'd be great.

(46:01):
Love that, man, it would be so much fun because
I haven't. We haven't got to playoffs since 'all beat
us Man and Ship. We didn't get a real final
four because we were in the bubble when we made it,
so we didn't we had the big arena and like
just awful backdrop playing the football we played at Lucas
Oil the Cult Stadium, Like they like cut like half

(46:21):
of it off, forgot about that. You had some people
in the stands stuff for that, right, yeah, like family
and they let it. They let some fans in, but
like it wasn't packed by any means, and like they
had the cardboard cutouts some stuff. It was it's it's
pretty that was so bad. If that was going to
do something for people in the court, I forgot, Drew, honestly,
you got yeah, you got completely robbed, like your whole Yeah,

(46:42):
you don't even get the you know, you don't even
know what I'm talking I don't know what I'm talking
about because I've never been there, But you don't what
I was referencing. You didn't even experience. So my bad
good question. Crowd definitely plays apart man that that crowd.
We were down fifteen in the championship, but every time
we scored and got to stop when they were just
like pumping energy into us. So I definitely said, that's
a that's a that's a part to have for sure,

(47:02):
all right. So obviously we uh were with the same agency,
We're from the same city, Like we both worked out together,
the whole drafting together. I just want to know how
good it felt, because obviously everyone thought it was bullshit
that you went through the G League combine and then
got invited to the NBA combine. I mean, I'll be
the first one up here to say it was bullshit,

(47:24):
But like, what what did that feel like for you?
Because I know that just you've always been a guy
I kind of see see me and you just always
kind of been underdogs and always had to work extra
hard for what we get. And you know, we don't
always get the same attention or love that other people get,
you know, but we just we're just blue collar. We
get it done. And I just want to know how
that felt for you, especially like with your with your

(47:47):
dad being there to kind of enjoy that moment with you,
because I know he wouldn't miss any moment that you have.
It was great. Man. Like like I said before, it's
always you know, adversity and stuff like that always been something.
Um yeah, you definitely know we we've we've done that
our whole life, you know what I mean, overlooking and
stuff like that, but you know, just always the opportunity

(48:07):
to get better and to prove people wrong. Um, I
think if you ask a lot of people, you know,
we were like in sixth grade with Drew and Jalen
b you know, the talking college basketball, they trasing. But
it's just how God works, man. We've always just continued
to work and not cared about any of that outside stuff.
And uh, now it was great, like just getting an
opportunity to show people why I should be there and

(48:29):
then you know, finally getting to be there and and
looking like I should be there. That was the main
thing I didn't want people to you know, underestimate, you know,
why I was even getting called up, but but show
people why I should have been there in the first place.
And you know, they have my family there, my dad,
my uncle. It was it was cool, man, just to
just get experience with the what the combine is really like,
and you know what it's like to to get to

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almost that next level. Now coming back now that I
know everything, you know, it's it's it's been a smooth salmon. Yeah, man,
we're gonna have to run that back and do it
all over again. So it's gonna be yeah, yeah, we
gotta get to there, man. You know, goes on my
favorite cities. What type of feedback you think like stuck
with you the most that you got from the draft
process that you've kind of that's stuck with you during

(49:11):
you know, thus far during your senior year in Kansas.
Definitely my my shooting. That was one thing that I
struggled with early last year, in the middle of the season,
probably with the first half. I couldn't buy a three,
and uh, you know, that was just one thing that
they stuck out. You know, if you're gonna come to
the NBA, it's either you know, knocked down shots or
you gotta be the most athletic guy. And obviously I'm

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not the most athletic guy. So I gotta be able
to do other things, and that was one of them.
Especially with being a wing, you know, you gotta be
able to make threes, make shots, and so I've just
worked on my shot a lot, you know, going to
different workouts. I learned a lot about my shot and
you got to talk to different coaches and stuff about
tweaking different things. And it's been in the gym working
on that and make sure my three is there and
you know the rest of my game will We'll show

(49:55):
for itself. Yeah, you guys got to be more comfortable
or like feel way more comfortable regardless of what happens,
like going into that next draft process because you've already
seeing it. It's like now you know exactly what to
expect to like be able to pull the most out
of it. Yeah, I don't think, like, especially me, I
realized like how tired I'd be after that process with
all the traveling and workouts and every day and they

(50:18):
got us in there pushing sleds every goddamn day workout.
I hate it. Yeah, there's nothing harder than pushing sleds
and doing like extensive leg workouts like that, and then
trying to be really effective on the court. Like you
can't really hoop if you you don't got legs under you,
like what, try working out first and then going to

(50:38):
do right. Hey, I've been there, maybe maybe not to
that extent, but I know I know your pain. I
know the pain different intensity. Yeah, man, I got one
more question for you, man, last one. So I would
just say, like, you know, growing up and everything, how much,
just like because I think Texas is one of the
top states for hoopers at all, and I would say
our class has probably been one of the most loaded

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and obviously like they've got good classes, but how much
do you think, like, like just the competitiveness we had.
I mean all those guys you went in against like
Rhese Davion and then I mean like you're ditting guyer
team as old Chris Rice Cook, like all that talent,
Like how much do you think that's helped you for
like college, but even beyond just because of how much
we had to we had to compete against each other

(51:22):
so much growing up. Yeah, I think that was one
of the biggest things that separated our class from a
lot of different people, because I mean we were getting
battle tested every day in high school. I mean whether
it was tournaments, uh, the state tournament, regular season games,
like you're seeing a top one hunter guy in the
nation almost every single night. And then it's like if

(51:44):
you look now, like that whole class, I mean, we
we've seen a lot of success between all those players,
and I got guys in the NBA, guys you know,
major roles on college teams, and it just shows, you know,
like what are what our states about? Man? I feel
like that was one of the best classes of all
time if you just look at I think Texas had
like ten or twelve in the top one hundred at
that time. If you look in the big twelve, we're

(52:06):
all over the place. Um look all over the nation
where everywhere. But you know, seeing seeing competition like that,
it's just gonna emp your game up every single day.
And I felt like that gave us an advantage going
to college about to say. The special thing too, is that,
like I would say, like for the most part, we're
all like friends are like we all like wanted to
compete against each other all the time, to which I

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thought was the coolest part about the thing, because a
lot of times to see top guys wanted to kind
of separate from each other be buddy buddy like we
were like nah, like fun that, like we're going at it.
We can be friends after. But I think that was
the most special thing that like our class especially had
when we were going through it all. Yeah, man, we
we would no matter who we were facing, like we
might be the best homies off the corribo and you

(52:49):
know we get on that course it's representing high school
and you know, me and you definitely be playing something
against each other. Like it was just one of those things, man,
like who who, Who's gonna come out? And when we're
done it, it's good luck to the next guy moving on.
And that was that's how it was. How far away
do you guys live from each other? Was it like
within driving distance or was it maybe maybe an hour

(53:10):
of traffic was bad? Pretty close? Yeah, what time of
the day it wasn't It wasn't too far though. We
we we found a way to find each other times.
That's dope. Man, I'm glad you guys got to rehash
that a little bit. I mean, hopefully hopefully we get
a little Kansas Gonzaga matchup. That'd be cool. If not,
I mean, shout out. He shout out to the Brand

(53:31):
seven one Agency represents you guys. Appreciate getting out of
Jalen on the show for us. Appreciate you coming on man,
Drew sign us off, baby, Thanks j Well. Appreciate y'all.
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