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Jeff and Susie discuss *AAMCO* from season 1.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You can watch the original episode we'll be discussing in
every other episode of HBO's Curby Your Enthusiasm, including the
new and final season, on Max. You can also watch
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hi, this is Jeff Garlands and we're cops here in
Los Angeles and have three open murders.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Oh could you imagine? Yeah, sure, there's more than three
open murders are fact.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
What you don't know is we've had a bit of
a break because I've had COVID and Susie was out
of town, and now we're getting a groove again and
we're pretty happy about that.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, still in the middle of production season twelve, so.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Having a ball. By the way, there has been one
day where I've had less than an amazing time since
we've been.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
There's been one day. There has hasn't been one day.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
You know what I discovered about myself?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Tell me, Jeffrey, I am only.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Really really happy when I'm doing curb. Yeah, I'll stop
even there. I could say, stand up, but stand up
you know sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
You know, stand up is so fraught it can be.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
But that being said, I truly am happy when we're
doing the show.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
I am too. I think Larry, we all are.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, I know, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
So I'm happy to do it and having we have
a great time and we're you know, and all the
other ancillary people that people that watch the show don't
see that we're so happy to be with.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, everyone's there, pretty happy.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah. So today is AMCO double A Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Seven. By the way, this was actually episode three. Well,
you know, interesting episode.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's interesting because as I was watching it, I was
thinking you had mentioned that the time before that AMCO
was out of order. Yes, the last episode we did
six the yeah, and you had said you felt like
that was when Kerb came into his own, which I
think really got hit the groove in our next episode, yes, beloved,
and which we'll talk about next episode. But this one

(02:13):
seemed like it was shot before the wire. It seemed
like it was before it got the groove going for
how the show was actually going to define for me.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
You know, watching these episodes, especially in the early seasons,
I get really sad. Why well, for the most part,
because of the way I feel and look, you know,
it looks like I looked like the Michelin man. I've
recovered from a stroke, which I keep mentioning.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
But then you had just recovered.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
And so I watch it and I feel bad for myself.
I empathize with myself. I feel sad and interesting. Yeah,
by the way, what an upstart or whatever you say.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Well, so we started the episode and you just bought
a gorgeous fifty seven Chevy. Yes, that car was, yes,
just absolutely beautiful. And you love old cars? No, yeah,
you have one.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yes, I have a nineteen sixty six Pontiac gto black
on black convertible. The reason I have that it's a
car that I love. I love muscle cars, and that's
the first official muscle car.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I didn't love this fifty seven show, not at all.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I have no interest. But I like the color.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well, it was beautiful to look at you.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
No, by the way, I'm not saying I disliked it
and was upset driving it, right, you know, but it
wasn't my.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Jam, it wasn't your Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
So we start off the episode and you're getting a
fifty seven Chevy. Yeah, And then you're walking down the
street with Larry and he's approached by the homeless guy
who doesn't like tuna.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Which, by the way, I actually was in New York
and I was sitting in front of Lincoln Center having
my usual oh, I'll eat this tonight and I'll start
fresh tomorrow diet. And that was happening.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Often happened to you in my life.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Hundreds of times.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
I've done that.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Upon hundreds, I mean, maybe even into the thousands. I'm
being honest here. Anyhow, I'm sitting on a bench there,
very relaxing. It was like eleven o'clock at night.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
It was after a gig, the lights are on behind you.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
And I had a box of I believe that night.
And it's weird that I remember these things. It was
frosted strawberry, pretty sure. And I also got a milk and,
by the way, how weird I would get a box
of pop Tarts and then a gallon.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Of when we brought milk.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Or skim milk with it, well, it's you know, it's
got to be the eighties. I look at New York,
you know, and I ate the whole box of pop Tarts.
No surprise there at least if you know me. And
I drank the milk with it. When I was done,
I had like a half gallon of the gallon of
milk and there's a homeless dude there, and I thought, oh,

(04:52):
I'll give it to him a yeah, and I went
to give it to him. He goes, no, I don't
drink skim I mean, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
It's like that experience of trying to be helpful and
having it.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, so that I immediately thought of that, you know,
I don't need tuna.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
One time, I was walking down the street with my
husband Jimmy, and there's a woman there crossing the street
in Upper Manhattan and she's all hunched over and she's
got a walker thing, but she was like completely her
face was almost at the ground and she was.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
In bad shape.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
And I walked over to her and I said, can
I help you across the street and she looked up
at me mind your own fucking business and.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Started screaming at me.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
And Jimmy felt like that was such an appropriate thing.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Or by the way, that's the opening of the Odd Couple.
That's great. The person trying to help her across the
street and she's hitting him with the purse.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
I love that opening.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
So the homeless guy doesn't like tuna and you know,
you know that's going to come back somewhere, and of
course it does, but we'll get to that. And Larry
then goes home and Cheryl's friend Julie is there returning
a tape or DVD vhs of Sour Grapes, which was
the movie that Larry wrote, did he directed, He wrote

(06:07):
and directed after he left Seinfeld. Yes, pre Curb, and
it was you know, it was not the most well
received movie in the world.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
By the way, No, it wasn't. And that's why Curb
was so great. Prior to Curb, he got punched in
the face for Sour Grapes and he got punched in
the face for the analogy Seinfeld. So this was sort
of like, you know, an uplifting thing for him to do.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
The ship and it was a very funny scene where
he says to her, what did you think of it?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
And you just see her.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
The best thing is she said was it was the
perfect length.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
It was the perfect length. It was fun stuff, fun stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
You know what's amazing about her saying that for something
that she clearly didn't like. I'm always confused when people
see my stand up friends, acquaintances and they don't even
mention it, and so I think I think I did great.
The audience gave me a lot of energy. Was I
bad because I don't know what I think?

Speaker 1 (07:06):
This happens to me And I have a particular friend
who comes to see me in things not just stand
up this and that, and then never says a word,
and then I hear later how much she liked it.
I think people don't understand how much we want to hear,
not that we want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I'm going to say the word. I'm going to say
the word need, not a want, it's a needing more.
You were great. I remember a group of people coming
backstage and didn't say anything to me, but my opening
act were effusive with my opening act.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
That's disturbing.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, and I really destroyed that night, you know, And look,
I know I believe me. I'm getting bad. So that's
always very very confusing, but perfect length. I mean, that
was all great stuff that she You know, this episode
is filled with friends of Cheryl's and a couple of
people from my world.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Which you can get into literal friends of shes. It
was it was TV friends of serfs as well.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
What do you mean TV?

Speaker 3 (08:07):
I mean you say on TV.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
So Larry comes up with stuff sometimes that I'm like,
he just I love that he's open to whimsy. What
I mean by that is when he starts doing fun
stuff like like Johnny Carson he keeps doing over there.
It's like you have to be so open to just
start doing.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Stuff like that, which you could could not really do
on a scripted show.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
God, even when I was on The Goldbergs, I literally
was at a point where I had to ask permission
if I wanted to improvise and let them know exactly
ahead of time what I might be saying.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
I like that. I mean when I did Broad City,
they were totally open to improv.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
I'm talking about the Goldbergs, who last time I checked,
Patty Chayevski was not the right. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
But I'm just saying it's just different shows.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Some shows are very free and loose, and some are
word perfect and sticklers about that kind of a thing.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
I think that they were like that on the Goldbergs.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yes, I find that most shows that aren't something I
dig that I've worked on very tight with the writing.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Drama more so than comedy, you know, I'm.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Talking about comedy really, yeah, drama, it's assumed because you
can't improvise and make a drama better. You know, I
think in terms of law and order or whatever. It's
like there's a bank to the bank to the bank. Now,
comedy you gotta be open to.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
When I used to have a recurring on SVU, and
I played a defense attorney, and they were very strict
and it was all courtroom jargon and it was impossible
to learn because it was it didn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I never had more problems with my dalog was it
was SVU the one I was on.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
I think so, I don't remember. I think so.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah. Anyhow, because your dialogue has nothing to do with
what the person just said to you. You have to
just remember your dialogue with no cues and no logic,
and it was impossible.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
It's very difficult, hurt, especially for us. Yeah, yes, that's
not you know, some actors you know have no problem
with it at all and enjoy it. Richard Kind, he
loves to learn lines.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Richard Kind. I'm gonna tell you something about Richard Kind
right now for those of you who don't know him
by name, and I'll just use our show. He plays
cousin and cousin Andy on our show. Richard kind is
a unique human being.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
And Richard can say that again.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, you know, when you're shooting a scene, the camera's
on you and the other person that might be a
dirty shot means a piece of their shoulders and or
they're completely off camera. When Richard is off camera and
he's doing his lines with you, and mind you, the
coverage is on you. You're the one on camera. He's
not on camera. If he screws up his lines, he
wants to start over, which is complete enough.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
It's not it's not necessary and it's not normal.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
All right, So there you go.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
We'll be right back. Stay tuned. Okay, we're back. So
the friend leaves and Larry's you know, clearly knows that
she did not like.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yes, he talked to Cheryl about that. I just wanted
to say one thing that I found very interesting there
that just occurred to me for the first time. To me, Larry,
except for the little darkness in his hair, he's not
completely gray. Looks almost identical to what he does now,
not that he would look suddenly different. Oh you don't agree.
He's older years old, no, but he still looks Yeah,

(11:50):
I mean, well, he's vital and Larry looked like an
old man when he was a young man. Well, yes,
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, now, this is what struck me about this next part.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Cheryl gets very upset there at dinner party Friday night
and the caterer canceled, so she feels as though she
has to cancel the dinner party. Does it never occur
to these Hollywood people she could cook. It was eight
people she could have cooked, she could have gotten.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
But come on, that's that's not an exaggeration. That is
the way it is.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
It would never occur to me to yeah, eight person
dinner party catered.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Well, by the way, that's the West Side of Los Angeles,
I guess. So now that is I've been to numerous
West Side dinner parties and I don't remember one without
a caterer.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Let's explain to our audience who are not from here
what that means. West side.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
West Side is like Santa Monica, Pacific Palisades, Malibu, west
of the four or five, but towards the ocean, and
the people who live over there are genuinely.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Very wealthy, right, And Larry lives over there.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Because he's genuinely wealthy, know very well but not everybody
who lives there is genuinely well.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Well. People live in apartments, but they are overpriced apartments.
So I'm just saying everybody there makes a decent living,
but most people who have houses there.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
But it's a beautiful place to live because it's the
w Yeah, it's near the Yes where I stay because
we shoot most things.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
The people they always you know what I think. As
I've gotten older, I've always thought of myself as like
sort of a regular Joe. Even though I have an
extraordinary life. My private life is very ordinary and I've
worked hard since I had a family. Let's keep it ordinary.
It's not anything so these dinners.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
See, I'm a New Yorker, as you know, I have
never moved here. We're in LA right now, yes, and
I've always lived in New York. I have never been
to a dinner party in my neighborhood in the city
wherever that's that amount of people that's catered.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
It's not a fucking wedding.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
With a few exceptions. People in New York are very
real and people here on the West Side are full
of shit. So there I said it. If you're a
West Side or come after me. I don't let me
ask you this.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
When you were married to Marla and you would have
a dinner party, was it devo catered? I don't mean
a big thing like you used to have you, I
don't mean my knowledge.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
No, I don't recall. Ever, Marla was a great cook,
and as far as I can remember, she always always cooked. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
So anyway, that just struck me that Cheryl not Cheryl.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Cheryl is a great cook. I hate saying was. Carla
continues to cook delightfully. I'll be in her house on
Sunday night next Sunday night for Hanukkah, and I know
she's going to make the lakas and all that stuff.
And for you non Jews listening, I'm not going to
apologize for being a Jew. Should stop it, no, because
I'm doing a lot of Jewish references.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
So who doesn't love a lotka? By the way, I
might not cook it sower.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Cream, Loca person or an apple.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'm an apple sauce, okay, we silver lives yeah, now lacks.
For example, I might not cook. I might go to
zay Bars and get them.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Oh. By the way, telling something from zay Bars does
not mean you're catering now, okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Okay, So Hanka, Hanka, you know what that reminds me of.
We'll get to it many many seasons later. No, the
scene where you're dropping me off at the airport.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm singing to myself.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Oh yeah, that's season nine or ten.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Got it?

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Where's to go?

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Okay, So Larry says that Jeff has a neighbor who's
a caterer and she's fantastic. So Cheryl is delusional and
she thinks that her friend really liked the movie. They
go back to that and Larry.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Is like, no, she didn't.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, well she clearly didn't.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
And then Larry says to her, what is this compulsion
to have people over your house and serve them food
and talk to that fine gathering?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
By the way, It's something that a lot of listeners
and myself wonder the same thing. You know what, I love.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
I enjoy serving people's food and talking about I'm over entertaining.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
If I'm over at your place and there's not a
lot of other other people, I'd be happy. But when
there's other people, I'm not too thrilled.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
But what if it's just a small This was a
small dinner party.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I'm good with it. I'm good with a dinner party.
I'm not good with a party.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
A party party me neither. I hate a party party,
but where you can converse.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I like that. This week the movie that I did, Babylon,
the Damie Giselle movie with Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie,
they're having the premiere on this coming Thursday. I ain't going.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
No premiere is are horrible.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Well, no, I don't want to walk the red carpet.
I don't want to be around a lot of people.
And by the way, it's a big bowl of small
talk with stars.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
But nonetheless, well you're at a point, Jeff, but you
don't need to do that.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
There was a point where where I remember where I
always had to go to everything for either my career
or to me to go.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Let me ask you a quick question, and we are
really deviated from the show.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
You can aviate as much as we wought.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Any of those times that you went to the red
carpet and you did the thing that your publicist whoever
manager told you how to do. Did it change your career?

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Not one iota.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I know that's the joke, and I even had it
after my brain should I do this for, you know,
supporting I'm supporting the film, you know, but.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
You would come to a curb premiere.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, because that's a little more private.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah, it's also yours.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, Algie, Babylon is mine. I secretly wrote it and
I'm playing Brad. Have you seen it? No, I'm not.
It looks good, it looks very interesting, you know.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
But yeah, I remember when I used to feel the
compulsion to go out right, you know, and part of
it was to meet a guide too.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Oh yeah, you never knew, you know.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
It was always Louis Veranda, who is our friend who
used to run Catch Rising store in Caroline's used to
say to me, Essie, you got away you sign meaning
you sign saying I'm available.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Oh but I think when you walk in the room,
I think the best sign you could wear is I'm
not available.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Well, whatever, it's irrelevant. It's a moot point at this
point because I'm an old married woman.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yes, okay.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
So so Larry is talking all about he can't have
a good time and Cheryl does not understand why can't
you lighten up and have a good time at the
dinner party, and he's absolutely sure he's not gonna have
a good time at the dinner party. It's all Cheryl's friends,
and he's absolutely correct. And they make a bet, which
is that if he doesn't have a good time, he
gets a blowjob in the car. Why do men love

(18:25):
a blowjob in the car?

Speaker 2 (18:26):
I was just about to say, is there anything more
upsetting or unsafe than a blowjob in a car?

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Totally?

Speaker 2 (18:33):
We have an episode with blowjob in the Yes, you
and I, but we were parked, I know, but nonetheless
even parked, Actually no, we weren't parked.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
We got into an accident.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, but nonetheless, I'm always a big fan of a couch,
a bed. I mean, there's many more places. What is
it with the car? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Well, I think it's I think it's the illicit, and
I think it's the You know how, there was that
episode and everything I always wanted to know about sex.
Remember where they were like doing it in every elevators
and in department stores and and there's something about that.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
It's errata size.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Now a good bet would be Larry said, who doesn't
if I'm not born? But you have to blow me
in Times Square? That I would find interesting. That's a
good dare.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, but that's never gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Car might I'm just telling you I have had many
boyfriends in my life who have wanted blowjobs in the car.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
So I'm asking you, as a man, what is then blowjob?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Well, I don't have I don't see the pack.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Okay, fine, all right, then we'll move on for that.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
And then they're in your office and you're talking about
Swanson Turkey dinners, which.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
By the way, remember those. I remember those? Now you
still also had ones with like a clown on it.
I remember when I was a kid. I love TV
dinners when I was a kid, kim me too, love them.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Was your mother a good cook?

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah she was, but she loved cooking chicken.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Ye, a lot of chicken. My mother was not a
good cook.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
So on the nights when my father wasn't home, that's
when we would have TV dinners or get pizza and
that was heaven or chicken pot pie, which I loved
the bird's eye, you.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Know, and I used to do. I used to love
just saying pot pie. Actually just stop in the middle
of my standup, look at the ass and go pot pie.
And they go, why is he saying pot pie over
and over. No, I just like the way it sounds.
A couple of remembrances I have of that scene. A
how fucking funny it was that I get serious, have
to sit on the couch, or that, which was that

(20:28):
a character completely out of character?

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Things were not gelled yet.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
No, No, I would never do that. We would both
laugh about that. Yeah. That and also I remember more
than any other scene I ever did on Curb, and
that was episode three. Like I said that I had
brain fog and I had trouble enunciating. You know, it
was really difficult.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Why do you think that is?

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well because I had a stroke.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Oh so yeah, you know, yeah, So how long ago
had you had the stroke? When you started shooting?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Six weeks?

Speaker 3 (20:58):
So you had the stroke after the pilot, after the hour.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Before the first episode. Huh.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
So.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
I also look at that scene amongst many scenes that season,
but that scene in particular as the way I got
my mojo back, got my voice back, got my mind back,
like I was forced to. It was better than any
sort of systicial therapy or yeah, physical therapy.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
But let me just we didn't say what it was.
You say to Larry, I'm hurt there's something I want
to talk about. You get up, you walk over to
the couch and sit next to him.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
And you say, you never congratulate me in my new car.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
And I have written down here so at a character.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, I know, it's really because it was.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
And it's interesting how doing this first season. It's interesting
to see how things jelled and developed over the course.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Of because that scenario would be something Larry and I
would laugh at about someone else. I would never give him.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
You believe he was hurt that I didn't go to
his car, you know that kind of a thing. So
then you're in the car. You say, the car is fun,
come on, drive it. The car is fun, and put
the radio on.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Well wait, well hold on. So I'm watching with Sari,
who was a film editor. Yeah, and she goes, oh,
that green screen is terrible. As the scene goes on,
and I say, said that studio city, that's real, she goes,
it looks like bad greens.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Wait a minute, tell people what green screen is.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Green screen is there's a green screen behind you that
they can superimpose the street where you're driving anything. They
can put you in a forest, they can put anything behind.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
It, which which is used all the time.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
But they have come so far with the driving green
screen stuff that it looks pretty gosh.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I mean frequently when you do a driving scene, you're
just sitting, you know, in a thing, and the green
screens behind you and you're not moving even the car.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
And they bounce it up and down.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, it's the magic. So you say, put on the
radio and the Amco commercial comes on. So those commercials
still on?

Speaker 3 (23:02):
I don't think so, I wouldn't. Are they still want
anybody in the room? They are.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
And by the way, when I hear that beep beep,
and I've heard it on the commercials, I thought, yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
It's dangerous.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, so Larry thinks it's a real honk and he
starts a fight with the guy behind him.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Stop over, okay, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (23:23):
And the guy gets pissed off, rear ends the car,
get the fight. Yeah, but nobody got the license plate.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
And then we drive and we can and there's a
noise and you could.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
See it's severely damaged. Would that really happen? It seemed
like he tapped it gently.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Well, by the way, in all reality, a car like that,
the other car would be damaged, you know. Nineteen car
was tank that they all were those those bumpers. I
remember my father in law. He used to say, don't
get a Japanese car because it's not the same metal
the American. Yeah, we completely believed that we'll.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Be right back, stay tuned, and we're back.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
So now we're at the dinner party, and clearly it's
fucking brutal.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
It's so boring.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
All of those people except for one, all are Cheryl's friends.
Like in real life, yeah, they're all groundlings people, okay, but.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
They well they were good improvisers, yes, But in the
TV show they're all Cheryl's friends, yes, and they're all
really fucking boring in the show, not in real life.
There's eight people and one is Alison and Kevin and
they're moving to Covino maybe it's downy, and then the
others going on a cruise and put a fucking.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Gun to my head.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
If I was sitting there listening to this production of
Annie gets you gun, by the way, that's what.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
It was like for me at like school events with
the other parents. I understand I wanted to die.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
I understand, and Larry clearly wants to die. And I
love the way it was done. And it was so clearly.
I mean, the lovely people you could see, but they
just you know, don't tell.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
By the way, there was some great stuff cut from
that scene. Yeah, I remember one of the guys. It
was a groundling guy, very funny. I think his first
name was Kevin, I still is. I'm sure he had
this one scene where he's telling Larry about all the
things that he's writing whatever. Larry says, well, do you
have it like you want to submit it? And the
guy goes, no, it's in sharge in my trunk. The

(25:30):
guy tells me, but he used the word shards that
it was cut up in his trunk.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Anyhow, it's a pleasure to improvise with good improvisers.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Oh, it's the best. And that's what I'm going to
talk about in this episode.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, well, let's talk about Mike Duffy.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Now, Mike Duffy introduces himself, you know, asking Larry if
he gets paid every time a Seinfeld airs. Turns out
he's an Amco dealer, and dinner is served and he
pushes ahead and takes Larry's seat at the head of
the table.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
And the way he does it is so natural and
speech talk about who he is, Well, that's what I
want to talk. One of my biggest influences, but I
say biggest, I'm talking about two or three biggest influences
in my career is Mike Haggerty. Mike Harriedy played Mike Duffy.
I learned from him by watching him at Second City,
by working with him at Second City, working with him

(26:19):
outside of Second City, being friends with him. He knew
how to use the economy. Like he would come into
a scene at Second City and everyone's blah blah blah
blah blah. He'd come in, say less than a half
dozen words, get a gigantic laugh, help the scene move forward,
and leave. Yeah, and he did that repeatedly. He's the
king for me as improvisers. Less is more, you know,

(26:44):
doing less is all you need to do. And he
was a master, and he showed him.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
When is he no longer with us?

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Mike died about six months ago. Oh really, okay, which
is heartbreaking to me and others. And you knew him
from Yeah, Second City. He was a gentleman. I remember
one time, the Bulls are in the playoffs, Michael Jordan's playing.
We're sitting in the upper rafters of the Chicago Stadium
and me with my add and there wasn't like a

(27:12):
cell phone situation then. But I brought the newspaper with me,
and while I'm watching the game, I'm reading the newspaper
and I remember him screaming at me, put the paper down.
Watch Jordan, what the fuck are you doing? I remember
they was so few, But yeah, I used to do
like ten things at once when I was younger. But Mike,
oh boy, I mean, one of the masters of that craft.

(27:34):
And by the way, I can honestly say a big
influence on putting Kirby your enthusiasm together, and in terms
of what I knew about him from you, yeah, yeah.
And if anyone out there enjoys my acting and notices
there are scenes where I don't say anything, or I
only say a few things one place in one place.

(27:55):
Only that comes from is Mike Haggerty. That's the influence
he had.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
On me and Lars.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Then when he sits down to the head of the table,
it's such a natural move. The comedy is not forced.
And when he goes into the.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Prayer first, everybody dig in. Yeah, he completely takes over.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
He's having fun. He's like, yeah, you hear everybody dig in,
but he's not being mean about it. He's sort of
enjoying the nonsense of it.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
And then he says grace, Yeah, which also.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Is so natural the way he does it. That was
the thing that struck me as I'm watching Hi'm Like Boy.
That dude is as natural and smooth an improviser that
I've ever seen. But one of the Mike is Mike
Aggerty aimed to please like his friends. He was telling
me he was doing this movie with Michael Keaton where
Michael Keaton's a police officer and he was playing a
police officer and he's playing like a video game in

(28:46):
a bar. And I said to him, he's going to
be gunplay. Oh yeah, Jeff, they'll be There'll be a
lot of gunplay. And then he knew I wanted to
hear him say gunplay. That tickled me all night long.
Anytime he could throw gunplay into something he was saying.
I just was so fucking grateful to our listeners who
are like, what's so funny about gunplay? No, I get
hooked on things in my mind. I've got so many

(29:09):
mental issues.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Why So he says grace, and then he and Larry
start making boring dinner conversation, which I quite enjoyed. Watching
Friends was a good show. You know, it's all about
what comedians call civilians right.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Well, by the way, let's even not call them civilians.
We're Carney folk. Yes, that's the best way to look
at it. We're the people who are running the ferris
wheel missing a finger. We're Carney folks. It's not people's problems,
it's our problem. And they're doing the best.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
They do the best they can.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
It's us that are screwed.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Up and Larry.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Then then they leave and Larry, you know, makes the
shit off with him about the Amco. I'm gonna call
you and out great everything. You'll fix the car because
he fucked up your car. And he says to Cheryl,
you know that he really enjoyed the Young Republicans Club.
Next time, I want some Jews there. And Cheryl lost
the bet.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
So the next morning, after he decides he doesn't like
the Colgate, there's a phone message from Mike Duffy that
he feels a little weird about something from the night before.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
By the way, I noticed, Cheryl looked so adorable.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Oh she was so cute.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, she was so young and.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Just gorgeous, yes, and so like vibrant.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, vibrant. That was a good word.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
And Cheryl thinks that the thing he felt weird about
was that she mentioned that Larry doesn't like anybody to
stay at there Martha's Vineyard, right guesthouse, and he said,
I mean, if it's between him fixing Jeff's car or
him staying at our guest house, Jeff's.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Out, Ah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
And he goes to get an apple turnover and from
last night and there's no leftovers. The caterer left no leftovers.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
What the fuck is that? So Larry is going to
go to her house to go peppy.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
By the way, I have never seen that or heard
of that, And I just thought, you know what, as
most things in the show, that has to have happened
to Larry.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Probably I've never heard of that either. Yeah, but the
caterer always be paid for the premis.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's a great prier.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, you leave the leftovers.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
So he goes to the caterer's house and the caterer says,
I'm not sure that everything survived the trip here for.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
By the way, that was deb Thaker, also a second
City person Toronto Second City. An excellent improviser, and she's
layser role.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
With a plum beautifully.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, where's the chicken? She says, I gave it to
a homeless shelter, and you know it's all bullshit, you know.
And then we find out the truth that she dropped
the food off at Jeff's house.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Right, so Larry goes to Jeff's house. Jeff's eating the chicken.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
I mentioned this in episode's past, I don't know which one.
When I get caught. I have a thing I do
and I wasn't conscious of it till I watched episodes.
So you walk in, you catch me go.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Hey, hey, always yeah, you never notice that, No.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Not until By the way, when I'm improvising on the show.
I'm never going to a toolbox. What do you mean
by that? In other words, I don't have my catchphrases.
I don't have my stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
You must do it.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Harry actually ruined something for me once, and I've become
conscious of it and I resent it. And that is
the shoulder shrug that I do on the show, like
when something's.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Wrong and you don't know what to say.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
And he pointed that out to me, and I never
noticed it, so now not as much.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
When I do it pointed out to you in a
negative way.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
No, but I don't want to be aware of it.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
All right, we'll get it out of your head.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
So so Larry says, you take ten percent of my salary.
Now you take tempercent of my food. Blah blah. And
then you move on to discussing Mike Duffy. You go
to see Mike Duffy. Larry's in the office with Mike,
and he apologizes.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Wait wait, wait, wait, hold on one second.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Did I skip something?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yes, what I wrote down my rash cleared up.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yes, I wrote that down too, rash cleared up. But
I don't know what it was.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I don't know what it is either. I don't have
a fucking clue. Well, let's do a little mystery thing here. Now.
It's got to be a line that Larry said he
went to the Amco. No, he went to the caterer.
I'm just because this is around when it.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Is, No, because I have I have it. After that,
after he came to your house, I don't know. I
don't know that.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
We don't even know what the fuck me.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
I haven't here, all right.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
And then Larry's in the office with Mike, and Mike says,
you know, I feel a little weird about something, and
Larry jumps in with the Martha's Vineyard thing, where what
Mike was feeling weird about was that he took the
head of the table and took Larry's chair. But then
becomes a whole argument about the Martha's Vineyard. I don't
need your house and I don't need you and I
don't know bubble.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
By the way, I'm just going to point out a
nuance of how Mike Haggerty made it smooth. So Larry
sang his Martha Vineyard thing and Mike goes, no, no, no,
I was just talking about sitting at the head of
the table, and Larry starts going into his thing, and
Mike very quietly goes, but Martha's Vineyard.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
And then so when it came to him he said
himself makes sense. Yeah, yeah, it was beautiful. I mean,
I'm just such a big.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
And I love how he ended it. I think we're
done here. Yeah, So you and Larry are driving the Chevy.
Still sounds bad, and then Larry has the catering trays
and he meets the homeless guy again, right, and gives
him the chicken Laurent.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Right, all of it, et cetera, and the guy takes it.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
And then that's it.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Then Cheryl and Larry are driving home for the restaurant
and somebody lost the bet and we know what's happening
next and we don't have to see it.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Wait does it end on that, Yes, it does.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
It ends on them in the car she undoes her
seat belt and a blowjob is to follow that we
don't see right by the way, God, I don't want
to see it.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Him getting a blowjob from Cheryl.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Now, I don't even want to picture it.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
I have no desire to anyone I know to see
them have set.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
And that was double amco Uh All right?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Well, did I tell you that I love you and
I adore you?

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Not today?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
All right? Well I'm telling you right now I love
you and adore you.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
We'll see you next time, everybody.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
And thank you for if you listen the whole way through.
I think that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
And here's to my Caggarty.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yes to Mike Cagarty, all right, thank you.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
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