S2 Ep. 3 - “TRICK OR TREAT”

Jeff and Susie discuss *Trick or Treat* from Season 2.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
So here we are, Season two, Episode three, Trick or Treat?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Guess what takes place on Halloween?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Also the day before, yes day after?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
And we start out and they're at a I thought
it was a party, but there at a restaurant and
a waiting little lounge area, and there with Cliff, a
friend of theirs who's in a wheelchair, and Cliff's wife Shelley.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
And Holly Wartel, who I worked at Second City with
uh huh, lovely person, lovely actress. She had the combo
platter going.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Person actress, Yes. And Cliff is in a wheelchair. We
don't know why. And they're going to a screening of
Cliff's film. His name is on the Marquee. He's very excited,
and Larry enters he saw the Marquee and he sits
down next to Cliff's wife Shelley, and in a very awkward,
uncomfortable show no where they're waiting to go to dinner.

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They're in the lounge and he sits next to her.
He's too close to her. He puts his arm up
on the thing. It looks like his arm is around her,
but it's not. But you know, it portends poorly by
the way.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Everything that he does early on will lead to something.
Something that he's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Nothing's by accident, and it's Cliff Cobb is the guy's name.
And Larry at one point says to Shelley, how's Cheryl's present?
Is Cheryl's birthday on Friday? And the bracelet she's making?
Apparently Cheryl likes bracelets because we dealt with that and
last season.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Who doesn't like a bracelet?

Speaker 3 (01:56):
And I wouldn't wear a bracelet. I like watches. I
know guys who wear bracelets.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's not for you. But a jewelry thing either.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Guy, jewelry. No, if you wear jewelry around your neck
as a man looks.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Unless you're a baseball player.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
If they play good, they can wear what they want.
But I think you should look in the mirror and
reevaluate things. I agree. I don't like life. I don't
like men in cologne, men in cologne.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Men wearing cologne I used to wear.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
As a kid. I swear to God, my whole teenagers.
Paco Rabot, Oh you did, yes, by the way, I
didn't pour it on a little dabble doo.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
You do you definitely.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
So with Cheryl's birthday, Shelley is apparently making a bracelet
for Cheryl. She says it'll be ready by Thursday. Then
they're sitting at dinner and Cheryl and Cliff are totally
engaged with one another, leaving out.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
By the way, they did a great job with that.
I feel like.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Bullshit, And you know, as so many things, I just
got that sense that that was Larry with his wife,
that she was engaged with and he was just completely
left out. That's where I think that came from. I
don't know for sure, but didn't that feel like that?

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, yeah, I don't want to have no comment. Yeah,
I don't like talking about Larry's personal life. And you
should be ashamed.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Okay, I feel tremendous shame right now.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
But so they're totally engaged, Cheryl and Cliff in a
conversation about the Amazon and things that would not interest
Larry whatsoever. And you see Shelley and Larry just left
out and just kind of looking at each other, and
he starts making stupid conversation about his napkin.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
You see, he's trying to make conversation with Shelley.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I have to put a napkin on and whatever in
order to they and Larry then orders a cob salad.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yes, and by the way, in the most beautiful.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Way, in the most beautiful way.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I've never heard of anyone, I've never been with anyone
who has ordered a cob salad and not didn't make
an adjustment to the cob salad.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I always But first of all, I love a jupe salad.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
By the way, big bull of delicious.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
But I always say no blue cheese.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, oh, would look at us? What to thing when
you say jinx Yeah no I blue cheese?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:05):
You know, look, you know, curse at me. I love
Thousand Island and I dig ranch. That's about it.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I like a balsamic.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
You like a balsamic, and my own everfee by the way,
I can. I can deal with the balsamic. And by
the way, it's the healthiest. Forget the balsamic and vinegar,
just balsamic, which I learned to put on my salad.
Great flavor, but I.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Get a little and it's perfect.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well, you like Djon, and we've talked about this. I
like frenches, not Djon. Yellow mustard and Deli mustard, which
sometimes can be kind of Dijon liked. I just like
playing yellow. I'm a big bullet, boring, keep going.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Okay, So Larry, what is this with many substitutions?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I think I'm just gonna.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Get a a Cop salad, okay, okay, And I want
to make just a couple of substitutions.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
If that's okay, Sure, okay, I'll get no bacon, no bacon,
no eggs, no eggs, no eggs.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Blue cheese on the side.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Sure you want a Cops salad I'm getting.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I'm getting David.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
Salad, and I'll get a cutation you can, okay.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
And if the chef can't do this, if he makes
a face at all, just come.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Back and let me know. Yeah, all right, okay, thank you.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Sure, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I love what he says, if the chef makes a face,
let me know, which is something we used in a
later episode, most.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Certainly, but just that sentence alone is so wonderful. If
the chef makes a face. All right, I'll read let
me know, I'll take care of it.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, And Cliff seems upset about this that Larry is getting.
He's non plussed, and then he tells everybody that his
grandfather invented the cops salad that.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Drake Hotel in Chicago. It's so funny. I'm watching this
and I'm thinking, is that where it started? I thought
it started at the Brown Derby, and then I thought, well,
maybe he worked at the Drake before he worked whoever.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
This is so you had forgotten the episode?

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Oh by the way, watching these early episodes now I
have forgotten at least half of the things.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
The content, and so people know we are now in
twenty twenty three and this was shot what two thousand.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
And one, probably actually in the forties.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
And Cheryl continues about you know, I want to go
out in the rough and the Amazon, and Larry counter's
Cliff saying his grandfather's made the cop sounid. My grandfather's
name was Harold Bingo. He invented bingo, which.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
I think is the thing of beauty. Those are one
of those things I look back, you know, me with names. Yeah,
that I wonder if I told him to say that,
or suggested that you don't want to tell No, I
don't remember, but it sounds like me. But nonetheless, Larry
and I have such a similar sense of humor.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
But you are more namey than he is.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I'm way more name As a matter of fact, the
other day, he loves the York Rangers, and I said, uh,
speaking of Bingo, this is the name. I said to him.
I said, jere about the Rangers new trade. And I
felt bad because he got so excited. I go, yeah,
they got from Kansas City Bingo mctuesday, old Bingo Mctuesday.
He knew, no, no, he did, he would really And

(07:19):
by the way, there's no team in Kansas City. So
therefore on a lot of levels. And then he burst
out laughing, and he kept saying to me throughout the day,
what was the name? I loved that name? You know,
so I make him laugh.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
I remember, well, I was there. I believe that Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Now Anna has asked a question our producer, executive producer.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Rightful producer.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
I told you to use that adjec she said, was
the Cobb salad story improvised or in the outline? Now
exactly what I was just going to when it's a
story point like that which comes back later, it's almost
always in the outline.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
But by the way, we will sometimes massage the outline.
I hate that term, So why did I use it?
What's wrong with me? What's in the outline will change
and develop, but the same story is there.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
If it's a story point, it's almost always in.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
The actor is not going to say something like, I'm
bring up.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Such a big story point that my grandfather invented the
cost salt.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
I could see by the way Vince Vaughn doing that, yeah,
and improvising it. But outside of people that are extremely
you know, a very high skill level that will never happen.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
And not just a skill level.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
You could be a highly skilled actor, but there's a
presumptuousness in it.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
So Vince Freddy Fonka to make Larry laugh.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yes, but Freddy Fonks or or Darling friend Bob who
was Marty Bob Aster, you're part of the family.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
It's different.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
No, No, with them, it is most certainly. Actually, I
always tell guest actors, say what you want, we can
always fix it. Just make it up. You can refer
to ballooning that you love ballooning, even though it has
nothing to do with the story, and one of us
might say to you, no more ballooning, which he does
what he tells me not to do something he sort
of hesitated him.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
But at the same time, for example, on Thursday, I
believe it was we were doing a scene and I'm
not going to say what it was, and we did
it over and over again, and then the last take
we came up with a golden thing just out of nowhere.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
No, I have no idea what you're talking about. Oh yes,
she gave me a hand signal that told me what that.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
So we sometimes do that with each other.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
All done. That scene, by the way, I really feel
over to all the years, is one of the funniest
scenes I've ever been a part of.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
You know, it was a funny scene. I really feel
that all the stuff listening. You'll see it in season twelve.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, but it is truly one of the funniest scenes
I've ever been And by the way, everything that happens
in that scene, here's what separates it. Literally every aspect
of that conversation, gems are floating out of everyone's mouth.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
It was all part of the reason for that was
not just how good we are.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
No, it's not the script.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
It was it was set up the situation.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
And we just ran with it, which we're apt to do.
And it was really, really it was so much fun
and funny, and it was just the three of us. Larry,
you love yes, always, yes, we love it. You know
the fastest too. If it's just the regulars, it really
goes by fast. But a dinner scene with lots of guests, no.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Thing, well, it depends on who the guest is.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
No, no hold. On the other night we did a
dinner scene and everyone there was part of the show.
And I got to tell you have people up there
who are not part of the show, that scene goes
twice as long.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Right, But if it's you and me and and Freddy
and Ted and Cheryl and you.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Know, yeah, so JB. All right, now we cut to
we're at.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
The Did I ever tell you the JB story?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Which one?

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Well, just did I ever mention on this show? I
don't know JB when we're doing in this scene doing
it likely? For example, we did one recently. JB and
are walking with Larry. Arry. He has to go off
somewhere and Jab and I are left now, one thing
you know about the show, and I don't think there's
ever been an exception. Once Larry leaves the screen, you're
cut out nothing you say. It's happened to us so

(11:12):
many times. We've come up with some really funny shit
and if it's in the script, it'll stay. But after
Larry leaves.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Meaning in the script, if it's part of the storyline.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Right, and Larry yes, But when Larry leaves, it's over now, JB.
Whether Larry leaves or not, he stays in character, and
he'll be talking to me in character. We're way off screen.
And my favorite thing to say to me, who are you?
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (11:37):
You?

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Are you Leon? Or are you JB? Right now? Because
quite different, quite different, because I think he goes into
a zone on him. Yeah, and then he of course
laughs at himself. He has a great sense.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I will do that as well because it's fun.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Who makes fun of you more for doing it? I know?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Okay, okay, So now we're at the screening. Thirty below
is on the Marquis. That's the name of the movie.
To clip write it directed. I wasn't really clear on that.
I think he directed it, directed it. Yeah, and although
we'll get to that, I have a point. This is
one of my things.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Technically in those days, when you put something up on
green screen, whatever it is, it looked horrible. So they
look like like a floating cloud of Jiz announcing the
name of the movie. It really did look like that.
It looked like an a meeba, And I'm like.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
This looks horrible and that's just technology.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
I get upset like I did in the Thong when
they had the blue Sky, which I just talked with
Larry about just unnecessary because by the way you're saying, yeah,
like move along, but plenty of people go to the
beach when it's cloudy and hang out.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I do all the time, right, I like a cloudy day.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
That was my thing.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
But Santa Barbara Son.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, we'll be right back, stay tuned. Okay, we're back,
and Larry runs into a guy it's like, Larry, ay,
you know, let's golf sometime, and Larry awkwardly says, I

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don't golf anymore.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Now.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
What's interesting is in that moment watching this, because I
haven't seen it for twenty one years, I assume the
reason he said he was not golfing anymore is because
he didn't want to golf with that guy, right, But
but there was an all ulterior motive I know.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
But hold on there. You know, if you pull into
a two shot, which we did there when Larry was
saying that on his side.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Well, the put him into the two shot.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Has something to do with what he's saying. Now. The
guy who came up to him was so perfectly cast
because he couldn't have been sweeter and more affable. Danny
Breen a hero of mine from Second City who I
was so honored to have him on the show, and
he's that person in real life, the sweetie smart and
he did something later that just killed me. But we

(13:57):
can move on.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
We'll get to that. Larry playing a lot of golf.
We should play sometimes I don't play golf anymore, Larry says.
And he's standing around waiting, and he starts to whistle,
which Larry is a very big whistler.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Larry, by the way, Larry sings and.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Whistles and whistles all the time.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
And so if you're listening, you can imagine that and
move with joy. By the way, and so many times
he starts singing something that I would have thought he's
never even heard usually musicals. Yeah, but he doesn't leach boys.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
He does.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
He does also he did you two once, and I'm like,
that's shocking, you know, but I'm saying, and I go,
where did that come from?

Speaker 1 (14:32):
So Larry starts whistling Wagner Yeah, And he tells Cheryl
the story about how Wagner wrote this piece for his
wife Kosima and how she woke up one morning and
he was in the courtyard or the living room or
whatever conducting it. And Cheryl finds that incredibly romantic and moving.
And then a man behind them, very belligerently says, excuse me,

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are you Jewish?

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Which is the best part of that exchange, because it
is shocking to be asked if you're Jewish that way. Well,
he was aggressive, I know, but the only other person
would be aggressive might be a Nazi soldier. I'm saying,
it's aggressive. Like the scariest scene maybe I've ever seen
in the movie is in The Pianist when he goes
out in the hallway from the apartment standing and a

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woman sees him and she points with two fingers jew
and she says it in the most angry way. She
reckoned it. Jew juju that scared the fuck out of him.
This felt different, I know, but it still was shocking.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yes, and Larry says, you.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Want to check my penis? Is that what you wanted?

Speaker 2 (15:35):
My real question is what were you?

Speaker 3 (15:38):
What were you whistling? Hello, Dolly? No is Wagner? Oh?
Was it jud dollars? I want to know what a
jew is whistling Wagner? It was one of the great
sites of the world. You know what you are? What
am I?

Speaker 7 (15:52):
You're a self loathing jam I? Oh, yes, Jewish hate.
But it has nothing to do with being Jewish. Okay, no,
it doesn't have anything. There's millions of jewels.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
We're taking to the concentration caps with Bob played in
the background, you know, Head's favorite composer.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yes, you know what. They got a mental asylum.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
A couple of blocks suggest suggest.

Speaker 8 (16:22):
Where are you have this attitude?

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Better put a muzzle on you. You're you're foeming at
the man.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
No, no, no, please, thank you. Yeah, this is something
you need to think about. All right, Yeah, I'm Jewish?
You want to check my penis?

Speaker 1 (16:36):
And and and this guy who we find out later
his name is Walter and he is Zane Lasky.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Is wonderful man was a regular.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
On Knots Landing, I believe it or not.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Well, he was a regular at the Farmer's market where
I used to hang out, and he said, anything I'll
do on the show anything, So that part came up.
By the way, it's so easy when someone asked you
to do the show. When something comes up that they're actually.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
That there is, it is a great feeling. You feel
terrific about that.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
And you see this Walter getting angry or angry you
were whistling. Wagner, one of the great anti semis to
the world, and he accuses Larry of being a self
loathing Jew, which I have experienced from people a couple
of times in my life, and it's extremely disconcerting when
it happens. Once was I was in a writing class

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and they asked to write a description of something, and
I wrote a description of my grandparents' apartment in the Bronx,
and this other very Jewish woman told me that I
was a self loathing Jew for how I described it.
I was just being accurate because I don't think I'm
a self loathing Jew. And the other was at some
gig where some man told me because I was imitating

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my mother and doing her exactly, and you've met her
that I was a self loathing jew.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
By the way you're doing your mother is really well,
you're her daughter. But I want to say always in
those situations, in reality, it's about the person saying it's correct.
It's not remotely about you.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
They're the self loathing.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
They're a big both.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
So he accuses Larry, and Larry says, I do hate myself,
but not for being.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Jewish, which I love that life.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
That's agreed, and Walter starts going it's Hitler's favorite composer,
and Larry says, and there's a mental asylum down the.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Block because the guy is clearly well.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
The fucking things that bothered me about that scene was
how quickly it escalated. We would never do that now. Yeah,
there'd be a build up this one from zero to
eighty to one hundred, and it was.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Very And the only person who does that is missus Green.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
But that hold on. You say that, but no, what
you do is you go back and forth, quiet and reasonable,
get the fuck out of my house, quiet and reasonable.
I don't want to hear it, you know what I mean.
It's like that's established, but that's part of your character,
so no one's jarred by that. It only you did
one the other day that just killed Larry and I

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killed it. You get the fuck out of the house.
It was so funny, especially where it came out of.
So you play that back and forth, which I think
is a thing of beauty.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
So you feel this was a directing thing in with water.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I feel way, I'm there, Larry's there, Larry Charles direct,
We're all there. I don't know what we discussed. I
don't know where it went. I don't know if agreed
a lot, and maybe Larry David said no. I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
But I think the point that you're making, Jeff, if I.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
May, is as the seasons went along, things became more
refined and such well.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Right where we're still finding our voice. So we would
have if that happened now after the first take, Larry,
Jeff Shaeffer myself would go whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
let's go here. Right after we shoot, Larry will turn
to somebody, not wait for me, not wait for Jeff Shaeffer.
He will turn to somebody and explain how he wants
it done. Yeah, Yeah, it's pretty great.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
And apparently this Walter was a friend of cl and
Cliff tells Larry he lives around the block from you.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
He's in your neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Right then we're in the theater and we see Larry
is sitting between Cheryl and Shelley.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Is that her name, Shelley?

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yes, And he's crunching popcorn loudly. Walter turns around, can.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
You keep it down?

Speaker 1 (20:18):
And you see Shelley kind of sidling up to him
a little bit, you know, just subtly.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
But he's sidling up to her too subtly.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
It's very subtle. Nothings that.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Clearly not but he's not aware that he's responding to her.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Correct, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
It's all strange, right, But he's definitely giving her hints.
You know.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
It depends on how you want to interpret it. Yeah,
you could go either.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Way from her. I would definitely interpret that, okay.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Larry yawns, Cheryl hits him.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Cheryl's annoyed at him this entire episode, and rightfully so.
Then they're outside they're talking a Cliff. Larry can't believe
he had the guy coming out of the freezing water
and how great it was, and Cliff's not buying that.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Larry really liked it.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
By the way, I want to jump back to something.
When they're watching in the theater, there is no dialogue
on the screen, and it's the most inappropriate, wild lush soundtrack,
and it just was so wrong. It was wrong.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
I know.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
By the way, this episode a lot of times where
Larry's doing comedy, and this has always been something bothersome
to me. We've eliminated. I always said to Larry, why
do we need music over this funny music to show
that you're being funny. You're Larry David, You're funny and
what you're doing is funny. Why do we have bouncy,
stupid music to go over it? But that's also a

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growth of the show.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, you know, the music has changed tremendously, you've noticed,
and the music has become to me now such a
huge part.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Russia it is. But we've gotten to the specific so
I don't know if we even introduced any new music
anymore unless it pertains to the scene.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Correct, Yeah, correct, I don't think so, not for years.

Speaker 8 (22:00):
We'll be right back. Stay tuned, Okay, we're back.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
So then Shelley says, let's go off for a drink,
and Cheryl says, Larry, probably not, He's got a big
day tomorrow. And what do you mean, I'm just sitting around.
I'm not doing anything. I'm just sitting around. I don't
have a big day tomorrow. And it's a little it's
a little weird. And then Shelley goes in to hug
Larry goodbye and hugs him a little bit too long.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Right, And by the way, that one he doesn't reciprocate,
and that one he he has a feeling of like weird,
weird about this.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yes, then they're home, Larry's brushing his teeth. We have
a lot of scenes of Larry brushing his teeth.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
By the way, what does he love.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
He's a man who loves to flow us as do I.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, but he loves clean breath, clean teeth. Yes, And
Shelley Berman when he was first on the.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Show, Larry's father later on.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Without doing it as a joke, everybody when he first
got there had been offering him a mint, not because
his breath was bad, because that's just our way. You
want to mint. You have a role of life, Savers
winder Green. Yeah, Oh, I'm going to offer it to you,
he thought, And this was he was very upset. He
thought he had terrible breath. Why is everyone doing this
to him? You know, it was very upsetting to him.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Shelley had a bit of a paranoid personality as well.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Well, by the way, he took things very serious.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Very very personally, very personally.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
But that one'll have a lot to say about Chelle.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
By the way, who we loved too.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
And when did Chilly come in? Was that season four
or five?

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Set sixteen?

Speaker 2 (23:37):
No, seriously, when when did he come in?

Speaker 3 (23:39):
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
We'll see, we'll get to that. Because Larry his teeth.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Cheryl's on the phone with Wanda talking about what happened
that evening.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
She loved the movie. Larry yawned.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
He says he's going to be sitting around tomorrow he's
playing golf, and Larry then chimes in, if.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
I was hand the cup, I want people to tell
me that they're sitting around going horsebrock riding.

Speaker 8 (24:02):
He doesn't get up side.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I am.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
If I was playing checkers, I want to told him
on playing checker.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
That is such a larryism to me, right, And by
the way, it's the sensitive side I.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Know, but that also is a very real thing that
Larry might do.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yes, you know, he wanted to make somebody feel bad
because they're in a wheelchair and he's out enjoying me.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I've always said about I've always said, but you know,
in my friendship with him, you can't take anything he
does personally because he goes into his head for comedy reasons.
Like when we're on the set, I always make jokes.
I'll be telling him something. He will get an idea,
turn away and lose interest in me. He's not present,
I'll go into a whole story about me shooting somebody

(24:44):
with a shotgun and then making pastries like absurd, doesn't
he No, he eventually does realize what's going on and
burst out laughing. But the person Larry is would never
want to hurt anybody. No, he's very If he's present,
he will always be, you know, on the.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Air, and that's what his character is doing right here.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
He did not want to say he's playing golf because
he didn't want Cliff to feel bad that he's wheelchair bound.
And Larry is mobile shows up next day at the
office in golf attire, and we know that it's Halloween
that day, because he says to his secretary, his assistant,
who's terrific.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
By the way, she was.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Very vibrant and really good.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
And she was in several seasons.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, she's a groundlings.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Larry says, any messages, and she says, Shelley Cobb called.
He assumes it's about the bracelet because he's waiting for
the bracelet to be ready. Bracelet's ready, and he says
to her get information on the Cob salad because he
doesn't really believe Cliff.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Hold on a second, here, you're missing the nuance there,
and it's an aging nuance. He says to her, go
on the internet and look up however you look up stuff,
how find me if you know?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
And although it's an aging but this was also twenty
one years ago, right, this was pre Google.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
We didn't even have Google.

Speaker 7 (26:04):
That.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, it is that. It was so funny the way
he told her to do it.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
So then he calls Shelley. He goes into his office,
calls Shelley because he wants to find out about the bracelet.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
And clear the way, Larry does great phone.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Great phone, and clearly that is not why Shelley was
calling because we hear the one side of the conversation
from Larry.

Speaker 9 (26:23):
Larry, Yeah, okay, we should go out it. Yeah, I'll talk,
I'll talk to Cheryl. Oh just you and me.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
Oh, oh my god, chuck, Shelly. No, no, no, no,
that I was No, that was just a joke because
because they were talking so much. Was it was like
a joke for their benefit.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
No, no, oh no, that was just an arm I
was just s touching my arm. That didn't Oh no, Shelley, No, no, Shelley,
of course not Shelley, don't.

Speaker 9 (27:06):
But no, no, that's not true.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
But what about the bracelet, Shelley.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
And he's like trying to dig himself out of the
hole which was not of his making in this particular time.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Plenty of times he did it in you know.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Felt that the person that I know on screening off
wouldn't have been that naive. Possibly, she said very strong Si.
Possibly and by the way she was so interested.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, yeah, Coo could blame her.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
And then he gets off the phone with her. He's
very upset because he's worried about the bracelet, and he
realizes that she thought he was coming on to her
when he said we should have sex sometime. It was
just a joke, and his assistant tells him the Cob
Salad was founded by Bob Cobb, the owner of the
Brown Derby, and it was first made at the Brown Derby,
and Cliff Cobb lied about his grandfather being the founder,

(28:00):
the course, the creator.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
The cops to the core that really, yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
You know, it wasn't long about a fucking salad right now,
By the.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Way, it's it's strange in a curb your enthusiasm way,
which I love. It's just absurd that he would make
up that it was the Drake Hotel, the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Okay in Chicago, all right, cut to We're home. It's
trick of treats. The adorable little kids are coming to
the door. He's passing out candy. Cheryl's making little bags
of candy corn, whatever the hell it was.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
And then the doorbell rings.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
He opens it and there are two teenagers in no costume,
very sullen.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
They look to be, you know, eighteen whatever.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
I don't think that old, but yeah, a lot more
than's mind. Maybe the cutoff is twelve. You know, Larry's
always obsessed with what he brings that up. Yeah, and
they're way past the cutoff.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
They no costume at all, and he says to them,
how old are you thirteen?

Speaker 7 (28:54):
Thirteen?

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Thirteen?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, yeah, you look more like sixteen.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Maybe where's you?

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Where's your costumes? I'm being my sister, sister teacher, you're
a teacher.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Candy?

Speaker 9 (29:13):
Yeah, candy? Hello?

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't think so.

Speaker 9 (29:16):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
It's Halloween?

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (29:18):
I know.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
It doesn't mean that you're entitled to just go around
through people's homes and build them out of candy.

Speaker 7 (29:23):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:26):
And he refuses to give them candy because they're just
trying to builk him out of candy. Builk him out
of candy, and yeah, he gets very upset about it,
and Cheryl is like, just give him the candy. What's
the big fucking deal, you know, And then cut to
the next morning. Their entire yard and house is toilet
papered all over and there's a big spray paint and

(29:48):
bright goldish yellow paint on their front door. Bald asshole
argues with Sheryl and you know, he's he's sticking to
his guns. They're using Halloween to get candy. Cheryl doesn't understand.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
He's like, there.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Should be a cutoff. What's the cutoff forty? I mean
it becomes a whole forty.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
That's a very very funny line. Now, Cheryl Larry are
great in this scene. But my problem with the scene
is that's a professional toilet papering. Two teenage girls are
not going to be able to put up that much
toilet paper and reach the heights they did. So I'm
watching it going who toilet paper? This a party company.
I'm just saying, those are the things.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
That didn't bother me with.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Well you're wrong.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah, no, it's not right or wrong.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
No it is wrong.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's different.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
No, it's wrong, it's different.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Cheryl says something very important at the end of the scene,
not everyone knows your rules, Larry, because Larry's got so
many rules that this cut off in this correct behavior,
and not everyone knows your rules.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
And by the way, his rules, as absurd as they
may seem in the show, people watching her go, oh,
I agree, I know that. Almost always, almost always most
of the audience is saying, oh, I agree with that.
Oh yeah, that's the cutoff.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
But Darrel's point of view is correct as well, because
her point of view is, Yeah, they're trying to builk
you out of candy. Who cares give him a Mars bar?
You know what I mean, what's the big fucking deal?
But he's always standing on principal, always standing on principal.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
And you know, we'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Stay tuned, and we're back next we are at the
front door and the cops are there, and the cops
are played by our colleagues and friends, Steve Scrovan and

(31:35):
Reggie mcfan, And.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
I'm friends of both of them. I got Reggie on
the show, and Reggie I've never At some point in
the nineties he completely disappears.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, I haven't seen him.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
And I google his name. Nothing comes up except for
you know, he was on def Comedy Jam or something
like a.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Real and Reggie get in touch.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
But if anyone knows who, if any of my friends know,
are your friends know?

Speaker 1 (32:05):
And these are all guys that we started in the
eighties with Scrovan more.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Than later, but Scrovan when I was younger, I admired
him greatly. That show on MTV I Forgot the Big
something or something. Yeah, I remember watching and catch Everybody
Crown around TV. He was interviewing Share, and I remember
all of us saying, wow, he's That was the thought

(32:29):
back then. You really chaired each other on Wow, he's
interviewing share. He's really made.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
It and went on to have a very successful career
as to write a producer.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
He was write a producer And everybody loves Raymond Seinfeld.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
He wrote in and Yeah and several things after that,
pursuit of happiness.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
And medicanful and charitable man and I've done charity.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
He's a terrific guy. Yeah, I love him, terrific guy.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
But Reggie Fadden, if anyone who knows me or Susie
who knows the current state of Reggie McFadden, where he is,
what he's doing, please let us know.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
And by the way, also I thought that Scroven was
terrific as playing the cop his questions. You know, Larry
wants them to find these girls and find their parents,
and he asked them to describe them, and it's like, well,
just describing everybody in this neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
By the way, when he said trick or treat, he goes,
what does it have to be felling? I think it's
fell in treat.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
He describes the one girl as Elvira ish because she
had long black hair, and ascro says, so.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
He was kind of in a little bit of a
costume there, and then with the Elvira thing.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
No, that wasn't a costume. I'm just using Elvira to
describe her, that's all. It's just a way to as
short him.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
They knocked on the door, they said trick or tree. Yeah,
they said trick or treade, and you had treats he had.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
I was giving out candy all night. But I don't
have to give them candy. They don't deserve candy, and
I don't deserve this.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Bald asshole. That's a hate crime. We're a sec we're
a group.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
You can't call us bald assholes. If we were gay,
there would be gay asshole.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
That's a hate crime.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
That performance of Scroven, the entire scene. Larry was cracking up,
of course, because Scrovan he knows s Grovan personally, and
Scrovan played that completely dead right, completely. It's a straight
man and he knew it. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Larry then claims the fact that they wrote bald asshole
makes the whole thing a hate because they considered themselves
to be a group, the bold community, and Regie McFadden,
who has a shaved head, says, well, well, I'm bald,
and Larry Larry says, and he has said this to
my husband Jimmy, who also has a shaved head, You're
not bold. That's a look you're cultivating for fashion purposes,

(34:32):
and we don't consider you part of the bold community,
which is hilarious.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
And he really believes that.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
I think, yeah, yeah, obviously with my hair and although
I shaved my head one season, you did that. Wasn't
believe that I would do that.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Oh god, that was so strange looking.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Well, you know, for a while when I was first
doing it, I walked around setting the mohawk.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
I don't remember that. But didn't you as have a bald.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Cap too, No, that was on a reshoot.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Okay, that's where that was shoes. I remember the.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Ball cap, which looked good. By the way, the guy
who did that was good.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
But and Scros says to him, there's a social contract
when you open that door that you give the candy.
I would advise you to give the treat next time,
and Larry's I will not be intimidated even following Yeah,
next week cut to he's going to visit you.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
On your office, I wrote down bad It looks like
I wrote down Bill maher bad makeup. Oh. I literally
looked like I was from uh yeah, raggedy ann. My
cheeks were so rosy, my skin was over Yeah. Just
it looked insane. It looked I had lost my mind

(35:42):
and I had trouble focusing after that. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
But what I also thought was funny is as he's
entering your office, the stairway to your office is filled
with people smoking.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
And by the way, sometimes it is that many people.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
But not anymore so much.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
No, no, no noting. But by the way, a lot of
those people died of lung cancer.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
That's why that's why the numbers are smaller.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Just another example of twenty years ago, twenty one years ago,
how different things they used to be in Manhattan. You
know where I live an office building, it would be
packed downstairs.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Though, But do you remember as a young comedian performing
clop and clouds of smoke.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Clouds, and they were always up front.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
I didn't like it, but I didn't there was no
secondhand smoke information.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
At Yeah, well we probably have inhaled so much secondhand
smoke from being comedy clubs. And you would go home
after a Saturday night when we used to do four
or five stink, I would have a garbage bag next
to my door, and I would immediately take all my
clothes off, put them in the bag, run into the
shower and wash my hair because we out No, I
would wash them, but I had to keep them, separate

(36:49):
them in my hamper because they smelled so bad.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Because we would just reek of cigarettes.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
No, it was, it was wrong, but that there was.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Part of that. Not that I liked it. I never liked.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
It, but there was part of that changed when they
stopped doing smoking.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
There was that down and dirty nightclub.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
I mean old people. I in my career, which was
started in nineteen eighty two, have more in common with
the era of Missus Masel more in contact that than
I do with what's going on now. I have known.
I do my.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Film low ceiling.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Most comedy clubs have low ceilings.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Established that low ceilings are essential.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
For laughter to hover because laughter is contagious.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
And I've done open well, I've done one outside.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
I've done a because the laughter goes, it disappeared, so
it would be a low ceiling, and it had that
that feeling of the smoke filled room and dark and
dirty what you found, and you know.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
It was definitely there is something nostalgic about it, but
there is also something crazy unhealthy.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
He comes in to your office and you ask him
if he wants to you want to play golf tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (38:02):
He said he can see Cheryl's birthday and what is she?
A baby?

Speaker 1 (38:06):
You have to be with her all day. Interestingly, we
did something similar this season, which we're not going to
talk about about a birthday and having to be there
all is.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
So clearly this is something on Larry's mind.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
By the way I open up the thing there for
a future season.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Julia, well, yes, I'm getting to you asked Larry what's
going on with Jason Alexander and the fact that he
had to go to Jason Alexander's office twice has turned
him off. He no longer wants to do the show
with Jason Alexander. And you bring up that Julia wants
to do a project and the project he was doing
with Jason is a perfect fit for Julia. Yes, and
he leaves the office and he says that he will

(38:44):
play nine holes or no you are going to play
but early in the morning. He doesn't have to be
with Cheryl all day, right, is what's estabished.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
We have a date for golf, and.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
You mentioned he's wearing golf attire, and he says, I
get a lot of compliments in my golf attire. I
look good in this. I'm not playing golf. I mean,
I've seen you wear a golf shirt many a day.
Then you're not playing golf, your La Costa shirts.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
But here's the thing. I do wear Lacasse shirts sometimes.

Speaker 6 (39:07):
I know.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
But that's my point is men do wear golf shirts
when they're not golfing as a style.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Of your husband, probably, yes.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
And then he runs into the same guy and they're
still smoking on the stairway.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
And they're away from the smoking, right, And.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
He runs into the same guy what was his name.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Again, Danny Breen, Danny Breen, And Danny Breen sees him
in a golf outfit and assumes he's going to play
golf and that he just dissed him telling him in
the earlier thing when he ran Intohim at the movie
theater that he doesn't play golf anymore. He confronts him
about the golf outfit, and you know Larry's old flummox.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
A lot of compliments on this outfit.

Speaker 7 (39:44):
Fine, okay, if that's the way it's going to be,
that's the way.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
No, it's not the way it's just going to be.

Speaker 7 (39:50):
You don't have to just wear them on a golf
you can wear clothes.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
First off, Danny Breen's performance. He doesn't explode. No, you
feel you feel his face. And the greatest shot, which
I didn't notice back then and I'm watching now, is
him going up those smoking steps with his head held down.
Really said yeah, and it was just it was so subtle.

(40:17):
He didn't go overboard in showing that, but you looked
at him and he went up the steps and I went,
fucking Danny Breen.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Well, you know, body language is so important to an
aout a doubt.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
But he played that so perfect. All right.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Then he goes to the Cobs house because he wants
to get the bracelet for Sheryl, because we've established it's
her birthday the next day, and it's a little eerie.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
In the house. He walks in the house, he's calling Shelley. Shelley.
He goes out, there's something.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Mines thrown off by him entering the house without without yelling.
He's saying Shelley like, hey, it's Larry up here, like
making an announcement. So right then and there, I'm like,
I can't follow the scene. And then when he's in
the room, we see a pool outside and then we
see him in the room with pool reflection. Again, technically

(41:07):
it was the worst look ever. We were trying to
go for an eerie look, yeah, and instead it was
like lights in the room. I think there was a
kiddie pool and lights making it look like that.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Yeah, And it didn't work.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
For well, it didn't work because technically, even with lighting,
we had no idea what we were doing.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
And boom again early on. Yeah, change.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
So I'm saying, I see these things which now irritate
me way more than they might have ever done.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Cliff shows up in his wheelchair. Yes, menacing, I know
what's going on. The knee game you propositioned and Larry's like,
I was joking, I asked your wife to.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
And then he says there's a golf clothes.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Larry's don't people compliment me, That's why I'm wearing them.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
But again this scene, Cliff is too angry he's screaming
at Larry about the golf clothes. What is that matter?

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Well, because he's really angry that he was trying to
fuck his wife.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Well, yeah, but I understand that. No, I picked that up.
But I'm saying went from zero to actually, I shouldn't
say this went from ten to one hundred. Again, it's anger,
which you understand. But you know, by the way, when
you try and explain yourself, even if you're in the right,
never works because the.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Person in there always seem guilty.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Well by the way, the person listening to it or
receiving it, it's personally affecting them what went down, and
they're seeing it their way. You're never going to convince
them by being vulnerable and explain yourself if you're a
victim of circumstance, if you will. So I love it.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
And that happens frequently with Larry, well frequently, maybe every episode.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
But maybe every person. It's just it's a normal thing.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
It is it is.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
And then Larry has this ace in the hole where
he says to the cop, salad was not invented by
your grandfather.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
By the way, that should have been the explode area.
Larry explodes and that the guy his side of the story.
He's doing the same thing, explaining his side, which Larry
doesn't want to hear. That would have been a nice
place for them to explode. And then Larry runs as
Cliff's chasing after him.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
And then we see Larry on the phone and he
sees the Elvira girl on the porch as he's on
the phone, and we see Larry doesn't see her.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Father.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Is Walter looking at the jewy jew juwmn watching from
the winch?

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Human? Yes, dude's so funny. I haven't heard that someone
says something like that since I lived in New York.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Well, then you know. He jew shames is what he does.
He shames And we see him looking from the window
and Larry confronts the daughter, the elvira Ish daughter, and Walter,
the father comes down.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
What brings you to our Jewish home?

Speaker 3 (43:54):
You're a liar as a human being. I heard about
Cliff and his wife.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Oh did you I heard about you trying to sleep
around with her?

Speaker 3 (44:01):
You're disgracing her people, that's what you are. Go the
cycle meters back one, Now.

Speaker 7 (44:07):
Come up, tell the neighborhood what a shondo davidsus human.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Being on and on and on already being an asshole
time totally because.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
And she knows her father will just stick up for her.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Yes, which that really is a big moment of rose
colored glass. Yes, because it's so obvious that she's a
shit kid.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yes, she's a ship kid.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
You're a lousy jew blah blah blah blah, and on
and on, and then we cut to Cheryl lying in bed,
you know, sleepy, and we hear beautiful music, and then
we cut to we see a string quintet playing Wagner
in their hall way and it's beautiful. It's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
A conductor, there's the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
And she's you see how moves and touch she is
and they're standing up on the balcony overlooking it.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
And who shows up coming though.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
What was unusual about that when she's moved is we
didn't we didn't cover or we didn't use the coverage
of Larry's face. We only showed her face. But it
was a rare moment between Cheryl Andry Larry of intimacy,
of warmth and intimacy, and.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Her being so pleased with him yes, and him doing
such a loving It was a very loving sweet.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Gesture, I know, and then it gets ruined, and then
all of.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
A sudden we see Jeff's face opening the door in
his golf attire.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Ready, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
You know is Cheryl's like, you can't play golf today,
it's my birthday. And Jeff's like, you know what I
went through. You know how hard it was for me
to get a day off.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
And you're all, by the way, you're skipping something here
that all I am when I walked through that door
is friendly and affable, smile Cheryl and wave.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
And by the way, I think you even said happy
birthday to her. Maybe not, I don't think I did.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
But the point is that performance is one of the
rare times that I completely nailed the first time. I
knew what it was, and Larry Charles and Larry David
were very happy with it, so I didn't need to
mess around for ego purposes whatever. It's like, oh look
at that. And I played it very subtly and sweet.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Until until he says he can't play exactly, and then
you get very upsessed, yes and into one hundred. Yeah,
Well it wasn't a big no, It wasn't a big gilla.
It wasn't like the scene we did yesterday, and Larry's
maybe I could play nine, maybe I could play six,
and Cheryl's having none of it.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
No, and you slink off. And here's what's interesting.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
This is I don't slink off. I stay for the
rest of the scene, just smiling at the two of
them and looking at Cheryl and smiling because I believe
that it's okay. That I'm there for so long. It's
so wrong and you think that's clueless, completely clueless.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
No, no, what's interesting? And I forgot about the next scene.
It could have ended right there in a sweet note,
but that's.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Not that's not curb.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
So we cut to a big brass band music playing loud, loud, loud.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Actually, no, no, no, no no, it's the same group
of performers.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
That there was brass.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
No the group, no, no, no, it was enlarged, it
was at large and they're playing classical. And the funny
thing about this visually is Larry Kid conducting.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
But the first was just a string quintente, which.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Is sweet and you know a lot too, And then
we ate horns and brass and they're in Walter's front
yard and he's conducting with Glee.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
It's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, I love that ending, and I had forgotten that ending,
and I really thought for a second, I was like,
this is how it ends. It's so sweet and nice
and so sacchariny in a certain way and not curbish.
But of course I was mistaken.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
You know, Larry got that note and I talked about
it in the hour special, which HBO wanted Cheryl and
I to have more conflict. Right, right, We've talked about this, yeah,
But the point is that Larry disagreed. Yeah, but yet
he still had it in the back of his mind.
So for the first couple of seasons he put in
a little of this, a little of that of me.

(48:21):
It wasn't ever her frustrating me, of me frustrating her.
But those gradually completely disappeared to where Cheryl character watch
you in real life. We love each other, but the
characters are one, you know.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
What, Like in a scene like that, Jeff, that wasn't
really between you and Cheryl, that was really between her
and Larry, that she didn't want him to play.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Golf, but she still she hated me for it.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yeah, yeah, well you were the best friend. Yeah, And
that's the episode trick or treat. Yeah, and we'll see
you next week or next time or whenever.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
I don't we have no idea when these are going
to air or what day.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Of the week exactly, but we will see you again.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
We won't hear them, they'll hear Harry again.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah, and I guess they're they're filming us for video,
so they'll be clips on the YouTube. Yeah, you can
see us on YouTube. It's not the future, it's not now.
We're speaking to the now. And of course at this time,
I'm only wearing a polyester. I've given it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
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