May 16, 2024 • 42 mins
Jeff and Susie discuss *The Shrimp Incident* from Season 2 with special appearance from Laura Streicher.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You can watch the original episode we'll be discussing in
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episode description. I've Susie Espan, Who are you?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm America's Top Teen Jeff.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Garland and we're here with Laura Fairchild Striker. No.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
By at the time, she was Laura Fairchild.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
She was, and she's now Laura Striker because she got married.
This is season two, episode four, the Shrimp Incident. Now,
Laura is one of the few who has been with
the show since she.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Myself Larry were day one.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, I have memories of Cheryl.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
No. No, Cheryl auditioned way after we started.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
But Cheryl was in the pilot.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
But there was a lot of development.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I remember seeing him.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
He would come through because we shared an office with it,
and you and Bob would be coming in and out, and.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
No, Bob at that point wasn't even That's why I say.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It was, you mean Bob White, Bob White.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
No, it was Larry, myself and Laura. So at the
very beginning, it was just us and I was working
with belt. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Remember, so what do you remember about the very beginning, Laura?
I remember thinking, God, I.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Just want to keep this job like six months. And
here when did you later with Larry? I started working
for him in nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
It was right after the series finale of Seinfeld and
he was starting.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
To develop this little show. And you know, I just
was like hoping to be able to last six months?
And what was your aspiration then? Even then? I wanted
to write. I was writing you.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Wanted to be a writer?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I was, by the way as having read her stuff
to write.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And my connections and power have done nothing for her
because I have set up meetings, what have you. That
was a long time, I know, but nonetheless I want
to help you with that.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Laura started out as Larry's assistant, but is now an
EP of the show.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I mean, that's how valuable she's become.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Let me just say, between her and Jen, that's the
whole show, between Jeff Schaeffer.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Jen, Jennifer Corey, Jennifer.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Corey and Laura. Without the three of them, Larry and
I are basically sitting in a box of sand looking
at each other because I swear they hold the Jeff's energy,
you know, and everything that we go to it's Laura
or Jennifer. But Laura is also the you work great
together the two.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah, I love jen Laura.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Laura also is there during the writing process, so while
they're writing the outlines, Laura is always there giving ideas.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yes, we don't have a conventional writer's room, but any
things open.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
For discussion and our two people, it's.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Larry and Jeff breaking story, but Laura is there in
the room with them quite frequently and participating and what's
the word I'm looking for, pitching adding, pitching adding, So
it's fun.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
These are her credentials. I thought.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I love her for many reasons. And both of you,
by the way, are rocks to me. I can't function
in life without the two of you. It's really true.
And you've saved my life before literally Okay, but oh Laura.
One of the things I just love about her a
perfect sense of humor. Yes, too many people I dealt
(03:39):
with in my career, even in someone in Laura's position
with Larry, where they stare at you.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Oh, yes, you hear Laura laughing.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
She just she's a delight thank you.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Sure I've given the feelings are mutual and I yeah, Wow,
it's a lot to live up to.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So the shrimp visit it.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
We start in the kitchen with Cheryl's telling him don't
eat the cookies. It's almost time for dinner. I can't
tell you how many times I've said things like that
to my husband.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Were you going to snack?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Now?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I just cooked and made this whole thing?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And he's he's obviously notorious for doing it because we
kind of touch on that this season too, exactly. And
this is an interesting concept. She didn't cook.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
They're going to go out to dinner, but she wants
to stop and have a drink first.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
An that's an interesting concept.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
It is because with that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Way more than I This is my.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Point, Jeff, Men and women see it differently.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
That's why it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Cheryl's reasoning is it's a different atmosphere. Larry doesn't get it.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
I don't understand that it's a different atmosphere. I thought,
But it's the drink, isn't it. They have the drink
at the restaurant. What's the difference with the atmosphere is
don't you want to eat?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I do want to eat, but I would like to
sit there and have a drink and socialize and not
have food.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Just sit there and have a drink, knowing that you're
going to be that you want to leave to eat
when you're thinking about food. How can you sit in
the rocks and have a drink?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
It just doesn't you know?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And then you wrote for many men in that moment.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I understand that there's a battle of the sexes. I
think to me, you go, you have a drink by
the ocean, and you sit and you relax, and you
create intimacy.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
On the second here, all you're creating is whether you parked,
what space you get, and you do it twice to
valets to the whole time.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Understand your point, it's exhausting, No, but I understand Cheryl's point.
And I understand Cheryl's point more than I understand Larry's point.
That's why I think I knew you would have loved that.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I enjoyed it because I was totally on Larry's side
for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And then she's like, well, we'll just get take out,
you know, she's frustrated, and they go to get take
out from the Chinese place, Kung Pao, whatever it's called.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Just like the Paramount Theater, the early seasons especially. I
remember every location. I remember a lot of times what
craft service had. I'm not king, I'll clear my face,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
How many times the day do I do that?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
By the way, any woman that's close to me, how
many times a day does that do I'm a I'm
a collector of food on my face, whether it's clean,
shaven or bearded. It's just up there. But we were
we just saying I get lost the location. Remember the location?
So that Chinese restaurant is on I believe Wilshire. I believe. Yeah,
(06:30):
every store has changed where you can go back to.
I remember exactly where the car was parked. Matter of fact,
that a few weeks ago before we did it, I
drove by and I went, yes, we filmed it. It
was just to the left of Jerry's Deli. And when
Larry is standing there and there's a shot of the
whole street, nothing has changed. Some of the names have changed,
(06:52):
but there's no this is a long time ago, and
there's no new buildings. There's it's just it's exactly the same.
Because I always love like when I watch Colombo. Yeah,
seeing you know old La and they never.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I feel that way about Ko Jack and old New York.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Well, by the way, yeah, right, by the way. I
want to offer this advice to anyone. If you know
who's Telly Savala says, you'll get a bigger kick out
of it. But everyone, I'm telling you go on YouTube
search Telly Savalis. It is gold him just singing all
his songs on top of the pops, all these things
in there. It's a reason for living. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We all need that. So Larry goes to the Chinese restaurant.
He gets a takeout. On the coming home, he's walking in,
he's happy, he's singing Rawhide. Cheryl tells him Julia Colt
and Cheryl is complaining about her elbow. She has tennis elbow.
She's in pain, and she's gonna call Jojo, but she
says Larry always says he leaves Marx.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
He leaves Marx.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
By the way, Whenever I see stuff like this, I
always wonder did I tell Larry to choose the name Jojo? Oh?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Well, I looked it up, because later on, when Jojo
does come, he's dressed so Joe, Joe, that's his real name.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
The guy's real name is.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Jo.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, but that guy is obvious.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Grind.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
No, no, sorry, Reiner is Griner. The guy playing Grinder
who we named Jojo is actually named Jojo. I always
do that.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, And this is the complain that Jojo leaves marks.
And they open up the food and it's the wrong order,
and Larry has to go back to the Chinese restaurant.
Miss No, he doesn't discover this shrip missing yet because no,
it's the wrong order.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah, that's it's the wrong order.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And also Cheryl says she's freaked out about eating someone that's.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
That's neck that comes later.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, no, she yes, she doesn't want to eat somebody
Else's correct, you're correct, And I don't blame her.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I don't want to know. But that's after they get food.
It's holds on.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, okay, mistake.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So Larry goes back to the Chinese restaurant to change
the order, and Alan Wasserman, who will you'll recall is
the HBO executive, is sitting there and he brought his
order back. Also, clearly Larry's order in Alan Wasserman's order
got exchanged and Larry's has everything at HBO, this tension
(09:12):
between them because things did not go well. Larry goes home,
he's in a bad mood and the president.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Of HBO was there.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
He got out of his special and Sarah charl says
to him, why did you make up a lie about
your stepfather? Cheryl's always asking the obvious questions about why
did you act like such a fucking idiot? Basically is
what she's always saying. And Larry says it was awkward
because he says it was a lie, you would be
believed because he was about down rather.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Then he opens up the Kung pao shrimp with.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
All the shrimp.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It's only three shrimp and that giant container. Yeah, three shrimp,
it's usually more than that, like ten.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Well you can have him.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Did he take the shrimp?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
I'll bet he took the shrimp? Wasserman, Yeah, he was
probably hungry. He got the container, he knew, he saw
it wasn't his food, and he ate shrimp and then
brought it back. Would he really do something like that, though, Well,
what do you mean when he really there's three shrimp
in there?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
And sees there's only three shrimp in there, and there's
usually ten.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
And then he starts to did he take the shrimp?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
He ate the shrimp and brought it back, And that's
when Cheryl's like, look, she's grossed out if he ate
out of that cart, which I totally agree with her
the whole note notion. It takes the food and he
returns it. Then they meet They meet Julia clearly at
her office, which again this has been a theme that's
been going on for several episodes. So he meets Julia
and is it back and forth about whose office is
(10:46):
going to be at?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And he said, we'll just do fourth. We don't need back,
we'll just do forth.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
And Julia says, you've turned into a nice man all
of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I loved that lie. Yeah, and then Larry pitches the
idea off.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Westwood between Olympic and Pico keep going and Larry remember
every one of those locations.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
It's like an idiot savant thing you have going on.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I am an idiot, ye, So Larry skills but comedy.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Larry pitches the idea that he had previously pitched to Jason,
but he dunked Jason because Jason wouldn't come to his
office about you know how she grows to.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Hate Evelyn, aren't you Evelyn?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And Julia loves the idea, but says it might be
better suited for Jason, because you know, Jason played such
an idiot on the show. And this again is a
theme that was going on with Jason had talked about this.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I played the schmuck. I play the idiot.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
But by the way, the way Larry pitches it is
the way you should pitch. What I mean by that
he is completely succinct. He gives the overall idea and
he's done within two minutes. He's done, and he's open
for questions. And yes, I do copy him. And the
times that I haven't copied him with a group of
people where it becomes a whole thing. One's pleasant. They
(12:01):
see a million people a day. Why don't they want
a two minute pitch? Makes it easy?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, the elevator pitch as they say, boom yeah. And
Larry is disparaging towards Jason. This is all he could do,
basically said, I love that. And Julia wants to pitch
it to HBO because she wants to say fucking cocksucker,
and who could blame her?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And I also say something here, she says that, And yes,
at that time.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
That's what I was going for. That was the only
There was no other streaming device. There was not Netflix
or Apple. It was like only Showtime maybe at that
time it was very huge places.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, and there was the movie channel that was But anyhow,
here's what I want to say. Yesterday, some people did
one of those charity things. And the woman tells me,
can we.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Just explain the charity things people buy walk ons to curve.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
There's not a shop. It's just like I had an
auction that one. It was a charity called Wags and
Walks Okay dogs dogs, Yeah, and she said, and I said,
of course. And this guy from Orlando paid a lot
of money, a lot of money, but a lot people
they pay a lot. But we do that at least
two or we used to do it all.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
You guys. I can't stop doing it.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
It's hard to say no because it's like I just
send them the you know, and it's like I don't
care what it is.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I have done ones for.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Like turtles in Malibu, Like sure, well, we just said
one for a for a charity, one of my pet charities,
which is Center for Discovery Upstate New York and we
got I think sixty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
You know, it's a lot of money, but I.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Know I tell people who put it up, I go,
if it's not more than twenty five, it's not going
to happen one time.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I Auction for Autism speaks to sixty thousand dollars charity.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
God bless rich people who like this.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I also feel.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
So that's one of to me, that's one of the
perks of celebrity, is that you could do things like
that and raise money for things that you care about.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's an easy By the way, how about this for
a gig. Jeff Tweety, who does well go old friend
of mine. He and I in two separate charity things.
We performed together in some guy's living room with about
twelve other people. It was beyond strange. It was I've
done that, but teamed up with someone a big rock star.
(14:25):
It was absurdism. But what I want to say, the
point I was going to make is so the woman's
telling me how much she likes curb your enthusiasm, and
she says, you know what it's like, And I was like,
oh fuck. And she said the thing that I was
dreading for it's like Seinfeld with swear words, and I'm like, yeah, yeah,
that's what we are. Where Seinfeld with swear words. It
(14:46):
just really all the work that Larry puts in, all
of us puts and it just shoves it to the
side where all we thought was let's do something funny
and adds swear words dumb and it's.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Not even that many besides me, it's not even that
many swear words. And by the way, it's content.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
By the way, all the people who've copied Curb outside
of the Office and Parks and Wreck which copied the
Office in London, which copied copied Curb, not copied, but
was inspired by all the other ones that have sort
of gone down that path. Oh I'm going to do
especially when there's a celebrity and attached. It really is swearing.
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And although they don't have a great show like Seinfeld
to base it on, it's just they think if you
swear a lot, and I'm like, I watch them and
I go, wow, they don't get it. They just don't
get it.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
We'll be right back, stay tuned, and we're back. So
Laura Jo.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Memories, by the way, just so it's fun for you
anytime you have a thought, okay, please, there will be
small pockets yeah silence, and in those just go, hey,
you know what I just thought of? Or here's this?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah please any memories?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah no, I was.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I was just going to say back on the Alan
Wasserman thing, because you know, Larry had to get out
of the special.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
He lies and says that his steps stepfather.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
And the other day we were on set and he
was telling us this really funny story about how he
he was on vacation and it was in college and
the guys had rented some sort of house or room
and he like really didn't want to be there, and
so he went to the like I guess landlady, the landlady,
and he told the landlady that his mom had died
(16:43):
and he had to leave.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
And it just struck me so like, oh, yes, no, No.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
He was young enough then to have that influence that
episode where his mom dies and he loves the fact
that it's an excuse to get out of every every thing.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
So I'd be like, wow, to go that far with it,
not even that she's.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
By the way, Alan Wasserman I met doing a movie
called Little Big League. We were the opposing managers in
the little league game that sets up.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Though, Alan Wassman, let me just tell people, is the
actor's real name. Yeah, he's not really an executive.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
That he's a great actor, and uh and click doing
a little big league and I knew anything that pops
up on curb. This dude's here and he was perfect
the very first time.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Really was Yeah, Larry, Larry says he doesn't he doesn't
want to do the pitch to HBO because he has
a problem with Alan Wassay. Yes, and Julia says, but
I have a friend there, Michael Halbott what's b hal Brisch?
And Larry says, the gay guy, and Julie says, no, no,
he's married. As a matter of fact, he's in our
poker game. Come play poker with us, you'll meet him.
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It'll be a good schmooze fest, Michael Halbrisch. So he
goes home. Cheryl is moaning on the table with Jojo
working on her moaning, and then you see her arm
as old Bruce. You know that's going to come back
in some shape for a little sidebar.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I saw Grinder a couple of times, ironically, and Larry's office.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Oh yeah, he would come to.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
His office, and he was quite the character and no exaggeration.
I had bruises on my body. He goes, he goes
beyond deep. He literally beats.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Beyond deep to Bruce.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah he is.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, he is a very interesting character. He has saved
Larry from knee surgery. But he would come to our
office and he dressed just like Jojo did, like sort
of like I don't know, seventies leisure suits or whatever.
But Larry would scream. He'd be screaming at the top
of his lungs in our office every time Grinder would
come and work on him. So it was definitely no,
(18:48):
it was, you know, certainly hurtful. He was emotionally he'd
yell at me.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
But no, I had, but you had, you had, Yes,
But it was so painful that I didn't want to
see him anymore. But I would not have to have
had back surgery, which I did, but said it would
have been worth it. And I think, if I'm not mistaken,
at that time, he was five hundred dollars a session.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
And as Larry says, I couldn't really afford it. As
Larry says in the episode The Man's an Artist.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
But by the way he really is, and he's very eccentric,
and he's an artist. And the guy who played him, Jojo, Yeah,
magnificent casting.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, he has a protege two that studied under him.
And I went to go get a massage with her
when I was pregnant with Owen and went into labor
on her table while she was using that thing that
he had that rumper.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Oh my, I wouldn't have one thing. It was causing effect.
Think it did so all right? Next week switched to
Chryl's bruise, and next we switch to Larry is in
the pitch with Julia and Jeff and Julia's manager, her
British manager.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
That actress. By the way, I forgot what I knew
her from Dear John, I believe, Yeah, she was on this.
We met her. I met her on the I was
on Dear John. That was actually my first job in Hollywood. No,
bay Watch was no anyhow. Nonetheless, that was a going
on bay Watch curious especially.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
So she offers everybody a Fisherman's friend Larious and Larry
Jane's Larry.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Larry starts Chris, I just want to get it out there, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
So I'll tell us Larry starts to pitch to the
group the idea, what do you think about this? Do
we stop for a drink before you get to the restaurant?
And Julia thinks that's a fashion kind of romantic and
her manager is lovely, you know the and was she mad?
And Jeff thinks he was totally right, just like you
did in real life, just now and Julia and her
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manager thinks it was lovely, like Cheryl wants to get late,
so funny. So they go into the meeting and can
I intergest I was in the middle. I was like
huddled up somewhere.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I was there is assistant at the time when we
were shooting the scene, and it occurred Steinberg directed this
for some reason.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
David Steinberg, Yes, sorry, David.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Steinberg and Brentwood keep going.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
It occurred to.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Us that we hadn't cast an assistant to like come
in and take them back to and you will be
bad acting training. Laura, I was a musical theater major.
You BFA from Emerson College. But anyway, it was a
really great school. Yeah, Cazzie ended up going there. It
was but they were like, Laura, we need you to
play this part. And I was like, okay, So like
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they just pulled me up off the floor and I
was like, you know, crouched somewhere with my laptop.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And so in the scene, I'm like, they're ready to
see you now.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Only you noticed they're ready to see you now, they're
ready to see Did you do that before before or do.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You do I think I remember being like, I don't
know what to do with this line. There's only so
much you can do, as you.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Know, now, all that's required is you just say it
like yourself.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I was trying to be like cool and like natural,
and it came off as like really trying to It's.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
An episode about the first time.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
The first time you're doing it me laughing.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, all right, Jeff, We're moving on.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
And they go into the meeting and Michael Halbrisch is
indeed quite gay.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Larry was right, oh you see him.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
And by the way, that actor who I know and
bright Sam Pancake, Yes, Sam Pancake a delightful man, so funny,
so talented. Yeah, he was just like he could not
have been better, and he plays everything perfectly.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
And they sit down and Alan Wasserman opens up with,
how's your stepfather doing?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
So you just just set up. He had a miraculous recovery.
See Larry switch Well, I talked to Larry.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
We just so, we just mentioned that he had a
miraculous recovery, and you just see Larry's face and it's
just it's over.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
It's just yeah, at that point the bottoms dropped out.
How long until Larry makes everything explode?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
And Julia is in there pitching.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
She's being charming and delightfully, you know, just like what
she's supposed to be doing in that and Larry can't
help himself.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
How are the garlic noodles the other night? What the
garlic noodles?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I didn't touch your garlic noodles.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
I didn't say you touched my garlic noodles. They were
your garlic noodles, right, But you did touch the shrimp.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
What are you talking about? What are you talking about
right now?
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I ordered Chinese food the other night. We got our
orders mixed up, and when I got my order back
from him, about seven or eight shrimp were missing. Oh no,
mysteriously disappear. Gives I would understand that you don't want
to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, Larry, you got your food.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I got my food.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
You got your full order I got mine minus seven shrimp.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
You counted the shrimp, your shrimp counting out.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Well, it's pretty obvious when there's two shrimp.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Right, I didn't touch your fucking shrimp.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
You want shrimp, take your flag and seventy five million dollars,
go buy.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
A fucking shrimp boat. Come on, I was gonna walk.
Come on, this is what he's players doing.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
So he accuses him of it.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Clearly did. There's no doubt that he did. If they're
used to putting ten shrimp and actually.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Eleven, it was eleven is what it turns out to be.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
There's only three. The dude took it.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
And that's the beauty of this show. Oftentimes everyone else
is misbehaving and Larry just gets, you know, framed as
the bad guy.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
That's the bad guy, by the way, always.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Always in this moment, but in the next moment, not
he says.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
In this one, Alan Wasserman says, it will take you
four hundred and seventy million dollars and go buy a
shrimp roat. And then they're in the lobby and Larry says,
he implied that I was lying about my stepfather.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Well, he was lying about this stuff. He was not right, but.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
They call him on that. You know you didn't you? Yeah,
go U did too.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
You have a funny line where you go, you don't
have a stepfather.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
So this is an instance where Larry was wrong because
he was lying.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
He is right because the implication is that he's lying
on something that shouldn't be perceived as a lie.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Correct. So there's and Julius. Julia asked about the shrimp.
Let me just ask something, what is the shrimp business?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
You know he had my he got my container by
a mistake from the Chinese restaurant, and he took out
a shrimp from it that didn't belong to him and
then gave it back to me as if I wasn't
gonna know that he took the shrimp.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Mourn Larry, Larry. Everybody steals shrimp and everybody lies about it.
Everyone still shrimp. Everyone's still shrimp.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And Julia says him, you need psychoanalysis, and Larry's I'm
in analysis. It does nothing, which of course Larry was
not in analysis at the time. I don't believe and
he I'm going to go back to the Chinese restaurant
and ask how many shrimp they have any they put
in the container and oh, he goes back to apologize
to Alan Wasserman.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, he goes back to see it, right, He goes
back to apologize because he's got to fix it. Yeah,
he's running out of options here. And then we're at
the poker game.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
And that's rare, by the way, not in real life.
He has no problem being apologetic show on the show.
To have him go back to somebody he knows is wrong.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
It's difficulty.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
The term always for that is hat in hand. I
don't know what that means. Are you your hat on your
hands in your hand? You're not. It's been taken anyhow.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Sorry, Well maybe one of our viewers can find the
derivation of that. Our listeners, not our viewers, our listeners.
And now we're going to get back to the episode.
So we're at the poker game and there's Mickey who's
a dentist, which Larry then says, says to Mickey, I
went to the dentist he has the said I had
the gums of a twenty five.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Year old man.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Now we know Larry is obsessed with oral heigi he's always.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
As really ragged about that because his dentist actually told
him that and it was something that really stayed with him.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
He was very proud of. If you asked about it now,
he'll probably.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
By the way, because of Larry. I went to the
same dentist for years, you know, doctor Eames. Yeah, Doctor
Reams told me how great Larry's gums were. Wow. Doctor
Reams told me.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
I thought you were going to say he told you that.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
You looked in my mouth and threw up.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So then Michael brings up the shrimp incident and asks
Larry's everything all right with Alan?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Did you make nice?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And he tells the story and he says, we're delight
at you with HBO and.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Something. What's great about that scene? You're sitting there watching
going what's he going to do to make this a disaster?
What choice is he going to make? And he makes
a very English choice.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yes, we'll be right back, stay tuned. Okay, we're back.
So then they're gonna play guts something that I don't
know that game.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Cheryl is going to go to the dentist. Cheryl's going
to go to the dentist. Yes, thank you are important. Fact,
she needs a dentist. She's going to go to Mickey
the dentist. There's a big pile of money. Julia ends
up winning. Turns out Julia bluffed and Larry goes around
the table to see what everybody had, see what hand
everybody had, and Michael Halberusch had had an ace high
(28:24):
and Larry is like basically telling him he's he was
a pussy for not betting, but he calls him a cunt.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
He calls them very common in England all the.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Time and in Australia. Also, my nephew just told me that.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
And he calls him a cunt twice, and we see
everybody is shocked, Michael is traumatized. Everybody's taken aback, and
the dentist, Mickey, takes issue. He calls Larry a misogynist
to say things like that, and he offended the women
and Michael's wife is like, it's not allowed in this game,
and Michael's like I'm fine, I'm fine, but you see
clearly he's he's questioning.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Well, he's very delicate.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
And everyone leaves and Michael looks completely traumatized, and they're
they're in the car and Cheryl's just like, I can't
believe you did that.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And it's the word you use when somebody that doesn't
act manly.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
He should have gone in. He says high, he should
have gone in. Larryos has a reason for acting the
way he does, and he said, maybe in retrospect, I
should have said pussy instead of Now would that have
been better?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
So abrasive?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
You know, right, it is quite shocked.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I really like it, but people are most people are
probably adverst And you know, in the history of this show,
with my foul mouth, I've only used it once effectively.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
And we'll get.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Nos about man. No, I don't want to say, because
we'll get to that episode.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So we're spoiling episodes that people have already seen.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
But it's a woman, yes, But anyway, it's that it's
not a word that is used a lot.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Is not shocking. It's fucking hilarious when you do it.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
But you know, you have to use things judiciously.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
And I think that word is like he is over
the line.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
But by the way, pussy doesn't work there? Am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I think actually it was appropriate for him to use
it there, But the guy who was clearly questioning some
things took it in a direct way, correct, you know
what I mean? He took it literally.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, And Larry's upset. No one's ever called me a
misogynst before, and and he and Cheryl start play fighting, shocked.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I can't believe that I called me a misogynist.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Noo, maybe you are. Maybe, But.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
That's one of the moments where it's a oh, Larry,
it's not. She's not pissed at him.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
She's just like kidding around.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
It was a very cute and he's pretending to hear her.
She's like, yeah, it's a very playful kind of you know,
fun little and it's and it's somewhat four Playee is
the sexy.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
He pretends to beat her, and you see Mickey seeing
and you know Mickey the dentist.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
You just know, yeah, he played that role perfectly.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
And then Larry and Jeff are at the Chinese restaurant
and you're telling Larry they don't want to work with
you anymore because they think you're a misogynist. And you
go into a whole thing. Larry says, I call him
in fricks all the time. What's the difference, You say,
cunt is worse? He says that sexist. It becomes a
whole you know, value judgment about that, and uh, and
you tell him that Michael Halbrish took a leave of
(31:42):
absence because he's shelf shocked.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
No, but I tell you his questions.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Question questioning everything in his life. You don't say he's
questioning his sexuality, but it's implied.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Oh, it's also if Larry knew that Larry would go,
it's a blessing in disguise.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
That So then Larry goes to the Chinese restaurant and
asks how many Kong poal shrimp they open in eleven?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Always? I love very strict about that way too. It's
it's a.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Policy, they always put eleven shrimp. In cut to Cheryl
at Mickey's dental office. Her arms are severely bruised. You
know what's coming. We know exactly what's coming because we
saw the setup. We saw Mickey see him, and Mickey
sees the bruises, and Mickey confronts her and tells her
that he knows that Larry beats her and Cheryl dances
(32:36):
her and no, no, he's that patient doctor confidentiality even
with the dentist, which I found very funny. And Micky's like,
I think so, and then Cheryl's this is a complete understanding,
and Mickey says, there's.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
No misunderstanding that I saw him beating you in your car.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I have seen Larry David.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
In action, and that man is an animal and he
has to be stopped.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
By the way, the shirt that Cheryl is wearing in
that scene, I noticed, like at the end of every season,
like wardrobe would like give me all her clothes, and.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I had that shirt so long. Wow, it was all
like Banana Republic stuff and they don't want to give
you my clothes. La.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
By the way, it's my contract that I get my
whole wardrobe after the season. And I've kept some stuff,
but most of it. Like there was a charity in
New York where men who don't have a lot of
money are going on job interviews, and I said, and
they need something nice to wear, and I donated it
to that. So I'm a special individual thought and I love.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
I have auctioned off some Susie Green outfits. That's why charity.
You have yours.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I wear mine. Whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Great.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
If you're a fan, yours are frameable. Yours you can
see like a football jersey, maybe the Smithsonium eventually, but
I do too. But you could see it on someone's
wall and they're dead because yours are frameable. Mine's just
a big guy suit. I say big guy. Back then,
I was quite the fat guy.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Oh but I did notice that, by the way, Yeah,
I mean you it's hard not to notice rate now.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I mean you always were.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I looked like the michelin man.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
With such a baby face.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Babyface, such a all of you guys, I mean Larry
and Cheryl too. I mean, it's just so funny to
see Cheryl in her kind of like late nineties Cheryl's outfits.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Cheryl was extraordinarily beautiful, especially she is from those early episodes.
You're like, how did you get her?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Well, I do have to say if I was Cheryl's
dentist and I saw what I'd gone on, of course,
and saw the bruise, because it's like a huge I
mean concerned.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Just seeing the bruise is one thing. Just seeing the
fake beating is one thing. But the combination of the two,
you couldn't come to any other conclusion.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
It would be like, poor Cheryl, She's she's a victim.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
So then we cut to Larry and Cheryl are out
to dinner and it's all over at HBO.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
They he thinks I'm a wife beater.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
We'll go to ABC and the waiter asks about dessert,
and Cheryl's like, I will take the bill because let's
go to Shutters to get dessert.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I love the book end of this. Yeah, it's so classic.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
And again he doesn't get it. We'll go to Shutters,
get dessert, get a change of scenery. Larry's disturbed. You know,
it's a little bit of an adventure, something new that
makes complete sense to me.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Let's take a step back. If your partner says he
doesn't like that, doesn't understand it. Do you think when
you asked the second time, he's going to go? You
know you're right. Shutters would be a different scenery. We
can look at the ocean. No, especially Larry, no way.
So I agree with him again.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
But Cheryl's annoyed at him. She's annoying point and she
wanted to get.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Her way, and she wanted to get her way, and
it happens all the time. And then we see Michael
comes in and Cheryl wants to just go home. Michael
comes into the restaurant with clearly a date. Who's a
man is so he's things out?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yes, I who played that? I forget his name Cheryl's friend.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Oh, I was going to say that was Now Social
Services shows up at the door, and that is a
terrific actress.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Who is Collier?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Francis Collier. What's your second city?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Second city? Chicago? And as per usual when I say
someone who I get on the show, a wonderful person,
so kind and very talented and very talented and perfect.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
And she was very serious and you have to be
and she asked Cheryl if she would like to press charges.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Received a phone call that there was some domestic violence
going on in this household.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Oh, actually, this is all a big misunderstanding.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I oh, yeah, this, would you care to press charges?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Cheryl pauses for a moment and hesitates, and we see
Larry pulling up in his car, singing in jolly and
off Cheryl's look fade out.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
By the way, what was Larry wearing in that last show?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I know he's wearing like all denim and like early episode.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
There's how weird it was it? Really? I said, that's
weird and I couldn't even remember what he's wearing. But
in his episode, like he was working on a car,
it came out from underneath the car.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, in the early episodes, his his wardrobe is so
severely different than it has become.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Now he's got the Larry David look. It's a very
specific and he's a fashion he is, but as am I.
But he was not in those early episodes.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
You're the three, Diane Keaton, You and Larry, not.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Me, Susie Green. Yeah, Susie and that. That was the episode,
and I think it's a terrific one.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
It was a great one, and I'm just so glad
to have been the assistant to really.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
But Laura, I think made the whole show. But you're
not here because you were the assistant. You're here because
I love it.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Now transitioned into I can't survive without you and Susie
and you and Jen hold the show up. Well back
then you were revered because you held Larry up. Yeah,
he couldn't function without you.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
He still can't.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
He still can't.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I always say that Laura is the best female relationship
Larry's ever had.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
You and I together, we are a great work marriage.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, I don't mean, I don't mean anything disparaging.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I guess I love about him that I cannot do.
I would adopt you for my daughter.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
You know that's the way I deal with you, and
he's very professional. In fact, I think it's the opposite.
I think of him as like my stepchild.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
By the way. Yeah, so it works. And by the way,
here I'm saying, I want you for my daughter. I'm
really the boy in that. Yeah, no doubt about it. Yeah,
but that I love it.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
And thank you Laura for coming and you'll come back
before you're involved in all one hundred and twenty episode.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I love it anytime.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
So there was three of us at the very beginning
when the show became a show, actually before.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Because there's Steve Rash our editor.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
He no, we brought him on though, That's what I'm
saying before everyone was hired as the show was initially
being developed. It's you, Me and Larry. That's what I
mean when I say the very yeah, because certainly Cheryl
and susie's been on since since season one. So I'm
saying there's a lot of people Thomas season one two. Yes,
(39:25):
we're going to have on who's fascinating. He's the best.
But I'm saying there's only a handful of us from
the very early days. For sure.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
I have the funniest memory we were editing.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
The pilots at HBO, which was at the end of
the century city.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
By the way, it wasn't even like our offices were
above the offices like a secret area, and there were
no windows.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
No harless windows.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
But I had gone out to get lunch for everybody
and I ran into Cheryl at the Center City mall
and she was walking into Bloomingdale's and I was like, Cheryl,
she was working for Michelle Reiner at the time as
her assistant. She's like, Oh, I'm just returning some things
from Michelle, and I'm like, i've been. We've been like
watching you all day, like you're so great in this pilot,
and she was like.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Really, probably does, by the way, in all sincerity. Now,
by the way, we all thought it was a one off,
and I remember this was a.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
It wasn't even a pilot. It was a special.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
But we also shot it and the first season of
Curb Everything in order we didn't come back. We had
to come back to locations because Larry wanted that for
the way he thought of it. And I remember filming
that first scene with Judy Tall and Alan Wasserman in
the HBO offices. We came out of there and we
were in a break and he sits on one of
the desks, empty desk, and he looks at me and
(40:43):
he says, wouldn't this be great as a TV series?
And my inner monologue said Larry David suggesting that we
do this as a and I go, yeah, it would
be excited, but knowing full well it would never be twenty.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Three years later, Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
It's fun. The journey we've had, we because of the
way it went about, we never believed the hype. Ever,
none of us have ever gotten big in our breches
because of and by the way, my attitude is when
I go on a talk show, it's basically they might
as well look at the camera, go we couldn't get
Larry David, So what ladies, and would you please welcome
(41:20):
Jeff Garland. And it's not me being that is, by
the way, the truth, but not the truth like they
they have faith in me. But if they get Larry
instead of me, they're pretty fucking happy. Yeah. By the way,
I happy to be bumped by Larry, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
We will see hear you speak to you all.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
It's time. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Y to
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm America's Top Teen Jeff.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Garland and we're here with Laura Fairchild Striker. No.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
By at the time, she was Laura Fairchild.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
She was, and she's now Laura Striker because she got married.
This is season two, episode four, the Shrimp Incident. Now,
Laura is one of the few who has been with
the show since she.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Myself Larry were day one.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, I have memories of Cheryl.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
No. No, Cheryl auditioned way after we started.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
But Cheryl was in the pilot.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
But there was a lot of development.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I remember seeing him.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
He would come through because we shared an office with it,
and you and Bob would be coming in and out, and.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
No, Bob at that point wasn't even That's why I say.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It was, you mean Bob White, Bob White.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
No, it was Larry, myself and Laura. So at the
very beginning, it was just us and I was working
with belt. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Remember, so what do you remember about the very beginning, Laura?
I remember thinking, God, I.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Just want to keep this job like six months. And
here when did you later with Larry? I started working
for him in nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
It was right after the series finale of Seinfeld and
he was starting.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
To develop this little show. And you know, I just
was like hoping to be able to last six months?
And what was your aspiration then? Even then? I wanted
to write. I was writing you.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Wanted to be a writer?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I was, by the way as having read her stuff
to write.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And my connections and power have done nothing for her
because I have set up meetings, what have you. That
was a long time, I know, but nonetheless I want
to help you with that.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Laura started out as Larry's assistant, but is now an
EP of the show.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I mean, that's how valuable she's become.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Let me just say, between her and Jen, that's the
whole show, between Jeff Schaeffer.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Jen, Jennifer Corey, Jennifer.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Corey and Laura. Without the three of them, Larry and
I are basically sitting in a box of sand looking
at each other because I swear they hold the Jeff's energy,
you know, and everything that we go to it's Laura
or Jennifer. But Laura is also the you work great
together the two.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah, I love jen Laura.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Laura also is there during the writing process, so while
they're writing the outlines, Laura is always there giving ideas.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yes, we don't have a conventional writer's room, but any
things open.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
For discussion and our two people, it's.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Larry and Jeff breaking story, but Laura is there in
the room with them quite frequently and participating and what's
the word I'm looking for, pitching adding, pitching adding, So
it's fun.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
These are her credentials. I thought.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I love her for many reasons. And both of you,
by the way, are rocks to me. I can't function
in life without the two of you. It's really true.
And you've saved my life before literally Okay, but oh Laura.
One of the things I just love about her a
perfect sense of humor. Yes, too many people I dealt
(03:39):
with in my career, even in someone in Laura's position
with Larry, where they stare at you.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Oh, yes, you hear Laura laughing.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
She just she's a delight thank you.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Sure I've given the feelings are mutual and I yeah, Wow,
it's a lot to live up to.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So the shrimp visit it.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
We start in the kitchen with Cheryl's telling him don't
eat the cookies. It's almost time for dinner. I can't
tell you how many times I've said things like that
to my husband.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Were you going to snack?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Now?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I just cooked and made this whole thing?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And he's he's obviously notorious for doing it because we
kind of touch on that this season too, exactly. And
this is an interesting concept. She didn't cook.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
They're going to go out to dinner, but she wants
to stop and have a drink first.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
An that's an interesting concept.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
It is because with that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Way more than I This is my.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Point, Jeff, Men and women see it differently.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
That's why it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Cheryl's reasoning is it's a different atmosphere. Larry doesn't get it.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
I don't understand that it's a different atmosphere. I thought,
But it's the drink, isn't it. They have the drink
at the restaurant. What's the difference with the atmosphere is
don't you want to eat?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I do want to eat, but I would like to
sit there and have a drink and socialize and not
have food.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Just sit there and have a drink, knowing that you're
going to be that you want to leave to eat
when you're thinking about food. How can you sit in
the rocks and have a drink?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
It just doesn't you know?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And then you wrote for many men in that moment.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I understand that there's a battle of the sexes. I
think to me, you go, you have a drink by
the ocean, and you sit and you relax, and you
create intimacy.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
On the second here, all you're creating is whether you parked,
what space you get, and you do it twice to
valets to the whole time.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Understand your point, it's exhausting, No, but I understand Cheryl's point.
And I understand Cheryl's point more than I understand Larry's point.
That's why I think I knew you would have loved that.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I enjoyed it because I was totally on Larry's side
for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And then she's like, well, we'll just get take out,
you know, she's frustrated, and they go to get take
out from the Chinese place, Kung Pao, whatever it's called.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Just like the Paramount Theater, the early seasons especially. I
remember every location. I remember a lot of times what
craft service had. I'm not king, I'll clear my face,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
How many times the day do I do that?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
By the way, any woman that's close to me, how
many times a day does that do I'm a I'm
a collector of food on my face, whether it's clean,
shaven or bearded. It's just up there. But we were
we just saying I get lost the location. Remember the location?
So that Chinese restaurant is on I believe Wilshire. I believe. Yeah,
(06:30):
every store has changed where you can go back to.
I remember exactly where the car was parked. Matter of fact,
that a few weeks ago before we did it, I
drove by and I went, yes, we filmed it. It
was just to the left of Jerry's Deli. And when
Larry is standing there and there's a shot of the
whole street, nothing has changed. Some of the names have changed,
(06:52):
but there's no this is a long time ago, and
there's no new buildings. There's it's just it's exactly the same.
Because I always love like when I watch Colombo. Yeah,
seeing you know old La and they never.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I feel that way about Ko Jack and old New York.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Well, by the way, yeah, right, by the way. I
want to offer this advice to anyone. If you know
who's Telly Savala says, you'll get a bigger kick out
of it. But everyone, I'm telling you go on YouTube
search Telly Savalis. It is gold him just singing all
his songs on top of the pops, all these things
in there. It's a reason for living. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We all need that. So Larry goes to the Chinese restaurant.
He gets a takeout. On the coming home, he's walking in,
he's happy, he's singing Rawhide. Cheryl tells him Julia Colt
and Cheryl is complaining about her elbow. She has tennis elbow.
She's in pain, and she's gonna call Jojo, but she
says Larry always says he leaves Marx.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
He leaves Marx.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
By the way, Whenever I see stuff like this, I
always wonder did I tell Larry to choose the name Jojo? Oh?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Well, I looked it up, because later on, when Jojo
does come, he's dressed so Joe, Joe, that's his real name.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
The guy's real name is.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Jo.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, but that guy is obvious.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Grind.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
No, no, sorry, Reiner is Griner. The guy playing Grinder
who we named Jojo is actually named Jojo. I always
do that.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, And this is the complain that Jojo leaves marks.
And they open up the food and it's the wrong order,
and Larry has to go back to the Chinese restaurant.
Miss No, he doesn't discover this shrip missing yet because no,
it's the wrong order.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah, that's it's the wrong order.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And also Cheryl says she's freaked out about eating someone that's.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
That's neck that comes later.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, no, she yes, she doesn't want to eat somebody
Else's correct, you're correct, And I don't blame her.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I don't want to know. But that's after they get food.
It's holds on.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, okay, mistake.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So Larry goes back to the Chinese restaurant to change
the order, and Alan Wasserman, who will you'll recall is
the HBO executive, is sitting there and he brought his
order back. Also, clearly Larry's order in Alan Wasserman's order
got exchanged and Larry's has everything at HBO, this tension
(09:12):
between them because things did not go well. Larry goes home,
he's in a bad mood and the president.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Of HBO was there.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
He got out of his special and Sarah charl says
to him, why did you make up a lie about
your stepfather? Cheryl's always asking the obvious questions about why
did you act like such a fucking idiot? Basically is
what she's always saying. And Larry says it was awkward
because he says it was a lie, you would be
believed because he was about down rather.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Then he opens up the Kung pao shrimp with.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
All the shrimp.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It's only three shrimp and that giant container. Yeah, three shrimp,
it's usually more than that, like ten.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Well you can have him.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Did he take the shrimp?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
I'll bet he took the shrimp? Wasserman, Yeah, he was
probably hungry. He got the container, he knew, he saw
it wasn't his food, and he ate shrimp and then
brought it back. Would he really do something like that, though, Well,
what do you mean when he really there's three shrimp
in there?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
And sees there's only three shrimp in there, and there's
usually ten.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
And then he starts to did he take the shrimp?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
He ate the shrimp and brought it back, And that's
when Cheryl's like, look, she's grossed out if he ate
out of that cart, which I totally agree with her
the whole note notion. It takes the food and he
returns it. Then they meet They meet Julia clearly at
her office, which again this has been a theme that's
been going on for several episodes. So he meets Julia
and is it back and forth about whose office is
(10:46):
going to be at?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And he said, we'll just do fourth. We don't need back,
we'll just do forth.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
And Julia says, you've turned into a nice man all
of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I loved that lie. Yeah, and then Larry pitches the
idea off.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Westwood between Olympic and Pico keep going and Larry remember
every one of those locations.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
It's like an idiot savant thing you have going on.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I am an idiot, ye, So Larry skills but comedy.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Larry pitches the idea that he had previously pitched to Jason,
but he dunked Jason because Jason wouldn't come to his
office about you know how she grows to.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Hate Evelyn, aren't you Evelyn?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And Julia loves the idea, but says it might be
better suited for Jason, because you know, Jason played such
an idiot on the show. And this again is a
theme that was going on with Jason had talked about this.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I played the schmuck. I play the idiot.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
But by the way, the way Larry pitches it is
the way you should pitch. What I mean by that
he is completely succinct. He gives the overall idea and
he's done within two minutes. He's done, and he's open
for questions. And yes, I do copy him. And the
times that I haven't copied him with a group of
people where it becomes a whole thing. One's pleasant. They
(12:01):
see a million people a day. Why don't they want
a two minute pitch? Makes it easy?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, the elevator pitch as they say, boom yeah. And
Larry is disparaging towards Jason. This is all he could do,
basically said, I love that. And Julia wants to pitch
it to HBO because she wants to say fucking cocksucker,
and who could blame her?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And I also say something here, she says that, And yes,
at that time.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
That's what I was going for. That was the only
There was no other streaming device. There was not Netflix
or Apple. It was like only Showtime maybe at that
time it was very huge places.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, and there was the movie channel that was But anyhow,
here's what I want to say. Yesterday, some people did
one of those charity things. And the woman tells me,
can we.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Just explain the charity things people buy walk ons to curve.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
There's not a shop. It's just like I had an
auction that one. It was a charity called Wags and
Walks Okay dogs dogs, Yeah, and she said, and I said,
of course. And this guy from Orlando paid a lot
of money, a lot of money, but a lot people
they pay a lot. But we do that at least
two or we used to do it all.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
You guys. I can't stop doing it.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
It's hard to say no because it's like I just
send them the you know, and it's like I don't
care what it is.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I have done ones for.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Like turtles in Malibu, Like sure, well, we just said
one for a for a charity, one of my pet charities,
which is Center for Discovery Upstate New York and we
got I think sixty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
You know, it's a lot of money, but I.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Know I tell people who put it up, I go,
if it's not more than twenty five, it's not going
to happen one time.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I Auction for Autism speaks to sixty thousand dollars charity.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
God bless rich people who like this.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I also feel.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
So that's one of to me, that's one of the
perks of celebrity, is that you could do things like
that and raise money for things that you care about.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's an easy By the way, how about this for
a gig. Jeff Tweety, who does well go old friend
of mine. He and I in two separate charity things.
We performed together in some guy's living room with about
twelve other people. It was beyond strange. It was I've
done that, but teamed up with someone a big rock star.
(14:25):
It was absurdism. But what I want to say, the
point I was going to make is so the woman's
telling me how much she likes curb your enthusiasm, and
she says, you know what it's like, And I was like,
oh fuck. And she said the thing that I was
dreading for it's like Seinfeld with swear words, and I'm like, yeah, yeah,
that's what we are. Where Seinfeld with swear words. It
(14:46):
just really all the work that Larry puts in, all
of us puts and it just shoves it to the
side where all we thought was let's do something funny
and adds swear words dumb and it's.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Not even that many besides me, it's not even that
many swear words. And by the way, it's content.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
By the way, all the people who've copied Curb outside
of the Office and Parks and Wreck which copied the
Office in London, which copied copied Curb, not copied, but
was inspired by all the other ones that have sort
of gone down that path. Oh I'm going to do
especially when there's a celebrity and attached. It really is swearing.
(15:26):
And although they don't have a great show like Seinfeld
to base it on, it's just they think if you
swear a lot, and I'm like, I watch them and
I go, wow, they don't get it. They just don't
get it.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
We'll be right back, stay tuned, and we're back. So
Laura Jo.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Memories, by the way, just so it's fun for you
anytime you have a thought, okay, please, there will be
small pockets yeah silence, and in those just go, hey,
you know what I just thought of? Or here's this?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah please any memories?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah no, I was.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I was just going to say back on the Alan
Wasserman thing, because you know, Larry had to get out
of the special.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
He lies and says that his steps stepfather.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
And the other day we were on set and he
was telling us this really funny story about how he
he was on vacation and it was in college and
the guys had rented some sort of house or room
and he like really didn't want to be there, and
so he went to the like I guess landlady, the landlady,
and he told the landlady that his mom had died
(16:43):
and he had to leave.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
And it just struck me so like, oh, yes, no, No.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
He was young enough then to have that influence that
episode where his mom dies and he loves the fact
that it's an excuse to get out of every every thing.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
So I'd be like, wow, to go that far with it,
not even that she's.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
By the way, Alan Wasserman I met doing a movie
called Little Big League. We were the opposing managers in
the little league game that sets up.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Though, Alan Wassman, let me just tell people, is the
actor's real name. Yeah, he's not really an executive.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
That he's a great actor, and uh and click doing
a little big league and I knew anything that pops
up on curb. This dude's here and he was perfect
the very first time.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Really was Yeah, Larry, Larry says he doesn't he doesn't
want to do the pitch to HBO because he has
a problem with Alan Wassay. Yes, and Julia says, but
I have a friend there, Michael Halbott what's b hal Brisch?
And Larry says, the gay guy, and Julie says, no, no,
he's married. As a matter of fact, he's in our
poker game. Come play poker with us, you'll meet him.
(17:51):
It'll be a good schmooze fest, Michael Halbrisch. So he
goes home. Cheryl is moaning on the table with Jojo
working on her moaning, and then you see her arm
as old Bruce. You know that's going to come back
in some shape for a little sidebar.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I saw Grinder a couple of times, ironically, and Larry's office.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Oh yeah, he would come to.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
His office, and he was quite the character and no exaggeration.
I had bruises on my body. He goes, he goes
beyond deep. He literally beats.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Beyond deep to Bruce.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah he is.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, he is a very interesting character. He has saved
Larry from knee surgery. But he would come to our
office and he dressed just like Jojo did, like sort
of like I don't know, seventies leisure suits or whatever.
But Larry would scream. He'd be screaming at the top
of his lungs in our office every time Grinder would
come and work on him. So it was definitely no,
(18:48):
it was, you know, certainly hurtful. He was emotionally he'd
yell at me.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
But no, I had, but you had, you had, Yes,
But it was so painful that I didn't want to
see him anymore. But I would not have to have
had back surgery, which I did, but said it would
have been worth it. And I think, if I'm not mistaken,
at that time, he was five hundred dollars a session.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
And as Larry says, I couldn't really afford it. As
Larry says in the episode The Man's an Artist.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
But by the way he really is, and he's very eccentric,
and he's an artist. And the guy who played him, Jojo, Yeah,
magnificent casting.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, he has a protege two that studied under him.
And I went to go get a massage with her
when I was pregnant with Owen and went into labor
on her table while she was using that thing that
he had that rumper.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Oh my, I wouldn't have one thing. It was causing effect.
Think it did so all right? Next week switched to
Chryl's bruise, and next we switch to Larry is in
the pitch with Julia and Jeff and Julia's manager, her
British manager.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
That actress. By the way, I forgot what I knew
her from Dear John, I believe, Yeah, she was on this.
We met her. I met her on the I was
on Dear John. That was actually my first job in Hollywood. No,
bay Watch was no anyhow. Nonetheless, that was a going
on bay Watch curious especially.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
So she offers everybody a Fisherman's friend Larious and Larry
Jane's Larry.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Larry starts Chris, I just want to get it out there, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
So I'll tell us Larry starts to pitch to the
group the idea, what do you think about this? Do
we stop for a drink before you get to the restaurant?
And Julia thinks that's a fashion kind of romantic and
her manager is lovely, you know the and was she mad?
And Jeff thinks he was totally right, just like you
did in real life, just now and Julia and her
(20:46):
manager thinks it was lovely, like Cheryl wants to get late,
so funny. So they go into the meeting and can
I intergest I was in the middle. I was like
huddled up somewhere.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I was there is assistant at the time when we
were shooting the scene, and it occurred Steinberg directed this
for some reason.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
David Steinberg, Yes, sorry, David.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Steinberg and Brentwood keep going.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
It occurred to.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Us that we hadn't cast an assistant to like come
in and take them back to and you will be
bad acting training. Laura, I was a musical theater major.
You BFA from Emerson College. But anyway, it was a
really great school. Yeah, Cazzie ended up going there. It
was but they were like, Laura, we need you to
play this part. And I was like, okay, So like
(21:37):
they just pulled me up off the floor and I
was like, you know, crouched somewhere with my laptop.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And so in the scene, I'm like, they're ready to
see you now.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Only you noticed they're ready to see you now, they're
ready to see Did you do that before before or do.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You do I think I remember being like, I don't
know what to do with this line. There's only so
much you can do, as you.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Know, now, all that's required is you just say it
like yourself.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I was trying to be like cool and like natural,
and it came off as like really trying to It's.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
An episode about the first time.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
The first time you're doing it me laughing.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, all right, Jeff, We're moving on.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
And they go into the meeting and Michael Halbrisch is
indeed quite gay.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Larry was right, oh you see him.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
And by the way, that actor who I know and
bright Sam Pancake, Yes, Sam Pancake a delightful man, so funny,
so talented. Yeah, he was just like he could not
have been better, and he plays everything perfectly.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
And they sit down and Alan Wasserman opens up with,
how's your stepfather doing?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
So you just just set up. He had a miraculous recovery.
See Larry switch Well, I talked to Larry.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
We just so, we just mentioned that he had a
miraculous recovery, and you just see Larry's face and it's
just it's over.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
It's just yeah, at that point the bottoms dropped out.
How long until Larry makes everything explode?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
And Julia is in there pitching.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
She's being charming and delightfully, you know, just like what
she's supposed to be doing in that and Larry can't
help himself.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
How are the garlic noodles the other night? What the
garlic noodles?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I didn't touch your garlic noodles.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
I didn't say you touched my garlic noodles. They were
your garlic noodles, right, But you did touch the shrimp.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
What are you talking about? What are you talking about
right now?
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I ordered Chinese food the other night. We got our
orders mixed up, and when I got my order back
from him, about seven or eight shrimp were missing. Oh no,
mysteriously disappear. Gives I would understand that you don't want
to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, Larry, you got your food.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I got my food.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
You got your full order I got mine minus seven shrimp.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
You counted the shrimp, your shrimp counting out.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Well, it's pretty obvious when there's two shrimp.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Right, I didn't touch your fucking shrimp.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
You want shrimp, take your flag and seventy five million dollars,
go buy.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
A fucking shrimp boat. Come on, I was gonna walk.
Come on, this is what he's players doing.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
So he accuses him of it.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Clearly did. There's no doubt that he did. If they're
used to putting ten shrimp and actually.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Eleven, it was eleven is what it turns out to be.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
There's only three. The dude took it.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
And that's the beauty of this show. Oftentimes everyone else
is misbehaving and Larry just gets, you know, framed as
the bad guy.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
That's the bad guy, by the way, always.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Always in this moment, but in the next moment, not
he says.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
In this one, Alan Wasserman says, it will take you
four hundred and seventy million dollars and go buy a
shrimp roat. And then they're in the lobby and Larry says,
he implied that I was lying about my stepfather.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Well, he was lying about this stuff. He was not right, but.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
They call him on that. You know you didn't you? Yeah,
go U did too.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
You have a funny line where you go, you don't
have a stepfather.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
So this is an instance where Larry was wrong because
he was lying.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
He is right because the implication is that he's lying
on something that shouldn't be perceived as a lie.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Correct. So there's and Julius. Julia asked about the shrimp.
Let me just ask something, what is the shrimp business?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
You know he had my he got my container by
a mistake from the Chinese restaurant, and he took out
a shrimp from it that didn't belong to him and
then gave it back to me as if I wasn't
gonna know that he took the shrimp.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Mourn Larry, Larry. Everybody steals shrimp and everybody lies about it.
Everyone still shrimp. Everyone's still shrimp.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And Julia says him, you need psychoanalysis, and Larry's I'm
in analysis. It does nothing, which of course Larry was
not in analysis at the time. I don't believe and
he I'm going to go back to the Chinese restaurant
and ask how many shrimp they have any they put
in the container and oh, he goes back to apologize
to Alan Wasserman.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, he goes back to see it, right, He goes
back to apologize because he's got to fix it. Yeah,
he's running out of options here. And then we're at
the poker game.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
And that's rare, by the way, not in real life.
He has no problem being apologetic show on the show.
To have him go back to somebody he knows is wrong.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
It's difficulty.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
The term always for that is hat in hand. I
don't know what that means. Are you your hat on your
hands in your hand? You're not. It's been taken anyhow.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Sorry, Well maybe one of our viewers can find the
derivation of that. Our listeners, not our viewers, our listeners.
And now we're going to get back to the episode.
So we're at the poker game and there's Mickey who's
a dentist, which Larry then says, says to Mickey, I
went to the dentist he has the said I had
the gums of a twenty five.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Year old man.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Now we know Larry is obsessed with oral heigi he's always.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
As really ragged about that because his dentist actually told
him that and it was something that really stayed with him.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
He was very proud of. If you asked about it now,
he'll probably.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
By the way, because of Larry. I went to the
same dentist for years, you know, doctor Eames. Yeah, Doctor
Reams told me how great Larry's gums were. Wow. Doctor
Reams told me.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
I thought you were going to say he told you that.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
You looked in my mouth and threw up.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So then Michael brings up the shrimp incident and asks
Larry's everything all right with Alan?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Did you make nice?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And he tells the story and he says, we're delight
at you with HBO and.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Something. What's great about that scene? You're sitting there watching
going what's he going to do to make this a disaster?
What choice is he going to make? And he makes
a very English choice.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yes, we'll be right back, stay tuned. Okay, we're back.
So then they're gonna play guts something that I don't
know that game.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Cheryl is going to go to the dentist. Cheryl's going
to go to the dentist. Yes, thank you are important. Fact,
she needs a dentist. She's going to go to Mickey
the dentist. There's a big pile of money. Julia ends
up winning. Turns out Julia bluffed and Larry goes around
the table to see what everybody had, see what hand
everybody had, and Michael Halberusch had had an ace high
(28:24):
and Larry is like basically telling him he's he was
a pussy for not betting, but he calls him a cunt.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
He calls them very common in England all the.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Time and in Australia. Also, my nephew just told me that.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
And he calls him a cunt twice, and we see
everybody is shocked, Michael is traumatized. Everybody's taken aback, and
the dentist, Mickey, takes issue. He calls Larry a misogynist
to say things like that, and he offended the women
and Michael's wife is like, it's not allowed in this game,
and Michael's like I'm fine, I'm fine, but you see
clearly he's he's questioning.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Well, he's very delicate.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
And everyone leaves and Michael looks completely traumatized, and they're
they're in the car and Cheryl's just like, I can't
believe you did that.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And it's the word you use when somebody that doesn't
act manly.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
He should have gone in. He says high, he should
have gone in. Larryos has a reason for acting the
way he does, and he said, maybe in retrospect, I
should have said pussy instead of Now would that have
been better?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
So abrasive?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
You know, right, it is quite shocked.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I really like it, but people are most people are
probably adverst And you know, in the history of this show,
with my foul mouth, I've only used it once effectively.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
And we'll get.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Nos about man. No, I don't want to say, because
we'll get to that episode.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So we're spoiling episodes that people have already seen.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
But it's a woman, yes, But anyway, it's that it's
not a word that is used a lot.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Is not shocking. It's fucking hilarious when you do it.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
But you know, you have to use things judiciously.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
And I think that word is like he is over
the line.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
But by the way, pussy doesn't work there? Am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I think actually it was appropriate for him to use
it there, But the guy who was clearly questioning some
things took it in a direct way, correct, you know
what I mean? He took it literally.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, And Larry's upset. No one's ever called me a
misogynst before, and and he and Cheryl start play fighting, shocked.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I can't believe that I called me a misogynist.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Noo, maybe you are. Maybe, But.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
That's one of the moments where it's a oh, Larry,
it's not. She's not pissed at him.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
She's just like kidding around.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
It was a very cute and he's pretending to hear her.
She's like, yeah, it's a very playful kind of you know,
fun little and it's and it's somewhat four Playee is
the sexy.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
He pretends to beat her, and you see Mickey seeing
and you know Mickey the dentist.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
You just know, yeah, he played that role perfectly.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
And then Larry and Jeff are at the Chinese restaurant
and you're telling Larry they don't want to work with
you anymore because they think you're a misogynist. And you
go into a whole thing. Larry says, I call him
in fricks all the time. What's the difference, You say,
cunt is worse? He says that sexist. It becomes a
whole you know, value judgment about that, and uh, and
you tell him that Michael Halbrish took a leave of
(31:42):
absence because he's shelf shocked.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
No, but I tell you his questions.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Question questioning everything in his life. You don't say he's
questioning his sexuality, but it's implied.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Oh, it's also if Larry knew that Larry would go,
it's a blessing in disguise.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
That So then Larry goes to the Chinese restaurant and
asks how many Kong poal shrimp they open in eleven?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Always? I love very strict about that way too. It's
it's a.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Policy, they always put eleven shrimp. In cut to Cheryl
at Mickey's dental office. Her arms are severely bruised. You
know what's coming. We know exactly what's coming because we
saw the setup. We saw Mickey see him, and Mickey
sees the bruises, and Mickey confronts her and tells her
that he knows that Larry beats her and Cheryl dances
(32:36):
her and no, no, he's that patient doctor confidentiality even
with the dentist, which I found very funny. And Micky's like,
I think so, and then Cheryl's this is a complete understanding,
and Mickey says, there's.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
No misunderstanding that I saw him beating you in your car.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I have seen Larry David.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
In action, and that man is an animal and he
has to be stopped.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
By the way, the shirt that Cheryl is wearing in
that scene, I noticed, like at the end of every season,
like wardrobe would like give me all her clothes, and.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I had that shirt so long. Wow, it was all
like Banana Republic stuff and they don't want to give
you my clothes. La.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
By the way, it's my contract that I get my
whole wardrobe after the season. And I've kept some stuff,
but most of it. Like there was a charity in
New York where men who don't have a lot of
money are going on job interviews, and I said, and
they need something nice to wear, and I donated it
to that. So I'm a special individual thought and I love.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
I have auctioned off some Susie Green outfits. That's why charity.
You have yours.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I wear mine. Whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Great.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
If you're a fan, yours are frameable. Yours you can
see like a football jersey, maybe the Smithsonium eventually, but
I do too. But you could see it on someone's
wall and they're dead because yours are frameable. Mine's just
a big guy suit. I say big guy. Back then,
I was quite the fat guy.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Oh but I did notice that, by the way, Yeah,
I mean you it's hard not to notice rate now.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I mean you always were.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I looked like the michelin man.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
With such a baby face.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Babyface, such a all of you guys, I mean Larry
and Cheryl too. I mean, it's just so funny to
see Cheryl in her kind of like late nineties Cheryl's outfits.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Cheryl was extraordinarily beautiful, especially she is from those early episodes.
You're like, how did you get her?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Well, I do have to say if I was Cheryl's
dentist and I saw what I'd gone on, of course,
and saw the bruise, because it's like a huge I
mean concerned.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Just seeing the bruise is one thing. Just seeing the
fake beating is one thing. But the combination of the two,
you couldn't come to any other conclusion.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
It would be like, poor Cheryl, She's she's a victim.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
So then we cut to Larry and Cheryl are out
to dinner and it's all over at HBO.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
They he thinks I'm a wife beater.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
We'll go to ABC and the waiter asks about dessert,
and Cheryl's like, I will take the bill because let's
go to Shutters to get dessert.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I love the book end of this. Yeah, it's so classic.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
And again he doesn't get it. We'll go to Shutters,
get dessert, get a change of scenery. Larry's disturbed. You know,
it's a little bit of an adventure, something new that
makes complete sense to me.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Let's take a step back. If your partner says he
doesn't like that, doesn't understand it. Do you think when
you asked the second time, he's going to go? You
know you're right. Shutters would be a different scenery. We
can look at the ocean. No, especially Larry, no way.
So I agree with him again.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
But Cheryl's annoyed at him. She's annoying point and she
wanted to get.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Her way, and she wanted to get her way, and
it happens all the time. And then we see Michael
comes in and Cheryl wants to just go home. Michael
comes into the restaurant with clearly a date. Who's a
man is so he's things out?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yes, I who played that? I forget his name Cheryl's friend.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Oh, I was going to say that was Now Social
Services shows up at the door, and that is a
terrific actress.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Who is Collier?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Francis Collier. What's your second city?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Second city? Chicago? And as per usual when I say
someone who I get on the show, a wonderful person,
so kind and very talented and very talented and perfect.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
And she was very serious and you have to be
and she asked Cheryl if she would like to press charges.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Received a phone call that there was some domestic violence
going on in this household.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Oh, actually, this is all a big misunderstanding.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I oh, yeah, this, would you care to press charges?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Cheryl pauses for a moment and hesitates, and we see
Larry pulling up in his car, singing in jolly and
off Cheryl's look fade out.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
By the way, what was Larry wearing in that last show?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I know he's wearing like all denim and like early episode.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
There's how weird it was it? Really? I said, that's
weird and I couldn't even remember what he's wearing. But
in his episode, like he was working on a car,
it came out from underneath the car.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, in the early episodes, his his wardrobe is so
severely different than it has become.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Now he's got the Larry David look. It's a very
specific and he's a fashion he is, but as am I.
But he was not in those early episodes.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
You're the three, Diane Keaton, You and Larry, not.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Me, Susie Green. Yeah, Susie and that. That was the episode,
and I think it's a terrific one.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
It was a great one, and I'm just so glad
to have been the assistant to really.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
But Laura, I think made the whole show. But you're
not here because you were the assistant. You're here because
I love it.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Now transitioned into I can't survive without you and Susie
and you and Jen hold the show up. Well back
then you were revered because you held Larry up. Yeah,
he couldn't function without you.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
He still can't.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
He still can't.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I always say that Laura is the best female relationship
Larry's ever had.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
You and I together, we are a great work marriage.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, I don't mean, I don't mean anything disparaging.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I guess I love about him that I cannot do.
I would adopt you for my daughter.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
You know that's the way I deal with you, and
he's very professional. In fact, I think it's the opposite.
I think of him as like my stepchild.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
By the way. Yeah, so it works. And by the way,
here I'm saying, I want you for my daughter. I'm
really the boy in that. Yeah, no doubt about it. Yeah,
but that I love it.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
And thank you Laura for coming and you'll come back
before you're involved in all one hundred and twenty episode.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I love it anytime.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
So there was three of us at the very beginning
when the show became a show, actually before.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Because there's Steve Rash our editor.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
He no, we brought him on though, That's what I'm
saying before everyone was hired as the show was initially
being developed. It's you, Me and Larry. That's what I
mean when I say the very yeah, because certainly Cheryl
and susie's been on since since season one. So I'm
saying there's a lot of people Thomas season one two. Yes,
(39:25):
we're going to have on who's fascinating. He's the best.
But I'm saying there's only a handful of us from
the very early days. For sure.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
I have the funniest memory we were editing.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
The pilots at HBO, which was at the end of
the century city.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
By the way, it wasn't even like our offices were
above the offices like a secret area, and there were
no windows.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
No harless windows.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
But I had gone out to get lunch for everybody
and I ran into Cheryl at the Center City mall
and she was walking into Bloomingdale's and I was like, Cheryl,
she was working for Michelle Reiner at the time as
her assistant. She's like, Oh, I'm just returning some things
from Michelle, and I'm like, i've been. We've been like
watching you all day, like you're so great in this pilot,
and she was like.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Really, probably does, by the way, in all sincerity. Now,
by the way, we all thought it was a one off,
and I remember this was a.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
It wasn't even a pilot. It was a special.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
But we also shot it and the first season of
Curb Everything in order we didn't come back. We had
to come back to locations because Larry wanted that for
the way he thought of it. And I remember filming
that first scene with Judy Tall and Alan Wasserman in
the HBO offices. We came out of there and we
were in a break and he sits on one of
the desks, empty desk, and he looks at me and
(40:43):
he says, wouldn't this be great as a TV series?
And my inner monologue said Larry David suggesting that we
do this as a and I go, yeah, it would
be excited, but knowing full well it would never be twenty.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Three years later, Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
It's fun. The journey we've had, we because of the
way it went about, we never believed the hype. Ever,
none of us have ever gotten big in our breches
because of and by the way, my attitude is when
I go on a talk show, it's basically they might
as well look at the camera, go we couldn't get
Larry David, So what ladies, and would you please welcome
(41:20):
Jeff Garland. And it's not me being that is, by
the way, the truth, but not the truth like they
they have faith in me. But if they get Larry
instead of me, they're pretty fucking happy. Yeah. By the way,
I happy to be bumped by Larry, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
We will see hear you speak to you all.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
It's time. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Y to
the history of came your Enthusiasm is the production.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Of my work Radium. For more podcasts from my radio,
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