October 31, 2024 • 52 mins
Jeff and Susie discuss “The Blind Date” from Season 4 with a special appearance from Moon Zappa.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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episode description. Hi everybody, I'm Susie Esmond.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm Jeff Darland.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
And today we are doing season four, episode three, the
Blind Date.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yes, and we have the blind date with us. Please
welcome Moon.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Zappa, Moonzapa.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Hi, everybody, Nice to be with.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You, Happy to have you here. Hello, It's an honor.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Moon, and it's nice to see your face out of
a burka. Having just watched the episode, Moon is an
old friend of mine who I love very nice. We
have never met because I wasn't in any of those
scenes with you, so we have never met, and it's
love to meet you.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
How did you get this part? I think I just auditioned.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I think I just came in and you did gave.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I plowed her through, which she was.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So good that she got it.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Jeff, No, no, no, Look, if she wasn't good, I
could not push her through the thing was she was
great and sometimes that still doesn't work. But when you
have somebody who's your friend in the room and you
kicked ass, you got the part. It's done.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So did you audition in a Burka Moon?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
No? But the thing is what I remember is Jeff
had said he tried a few times to bring me
into audition for a few different roles and nothing just
worked out prior to that. And so then when I
went in for that role.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I drove all the way from Hollywood to Santa Monica,
which is like saying I left the planet to go.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
To It depends on.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And well, Susie, you want to talk about time of
day from Hollywood to Santa Monica, Yeah, you're good around midnight.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I live in New York at four o'clock in the morning.
You can't go on the Cross Bronx Expressway any time
of day.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
The crossbro Expressway is a fucking nightmare.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
But all right, So nowadays you just have to treat
everything like it's.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You're going to a festival and your camp out before
you go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
It seems so you drove all the way.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I drove all the way and then uh, yeah, I
just remember that the process.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Of like being given a kind of a note and
then improvising a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
By the way, if I may, the notes that we
give to actors are not the actual scenes.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Right exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
There's something not even resembling the scene, just something totally different.
Because Larry doesn't want any of the stories.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
You just want anybody knowing.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah. Yeah, So there's these slips of paper, you know,
where it's just this little scene that has nothing to
do with what we're going to film.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And you know what's interesting to me rewatching these episodes
because I mean, I haven't seen this episode in nineteen years. Same,
what's interesting is once it's cast, nobody else could have
done that part.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I mean, yes, of course somebody else could have done
that part.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
No, but she did it with a spin that was
fucking beautiful.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Y that once you inhabit that part, it's like, you
can't even think of somebody else doing that part except
for Moon playing haboos.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Well, you know, some of my favorite things in the
world are matchmaking and matchmaking gone wrong. And outside of
professional life, is there anything funnier than people trying to
make love happen?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's just it happens all the time.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Yeah, exactly, And then to have the fun of getting
to have you know, whether you like a personality or
don't like a personality another personality is just a fun adventure.
And then to do it as though you are from
another country, which I think is riskier and riskier these
days and entertainment.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yes, it is so, and it's interesting watching this. Certain
things I don't know if they could be done today,
but exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh, by the way, that's true. I disagree on some levels,
but in terms of content not so much, because we're
a reverent and politically incorrect. Not to be reverent and
politically incorrect, it's just the way that turns out. But certainly,
with Moon's part, we would have.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Had to have hired and who would have ever known?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
No, no, but nonetheless a Middle Eastern actress. Yes, we
would have definitely had to but that's not a bad thing.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
No, But luckily Moon was hired because you were just perfect.
So let's start the episode. We start out with Larry
vacuuming Michael's apartment. This Michael is a real fucking primadonna.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Isn't also just Larry vacuuming?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Fur, this dude is funny on its own. Boom hilarious.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And Michael's got his headphones on and he's listening to music,
and you know, Larry's telling him he should get a
cordless vacuum. He's like, what what, he's not even he's
listening to his music. And then Larry says him, you
need to get yourself a new girlfriend. He's tired of
doing his errands in vacuuming, and and Michael says, it's
your fault that I don't have a girlfriend, which it
really is in Larry's fault.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
It is Michael's fault for being so petty and superficial.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
That's another thing about Larry's character. You can convince Larry
in the right moment that it's his fault. I'm talking
about the character.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Oh he's always willing to take blame.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah no, no, no, not from you, but like.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
From no, I mean, I don't mean me, I mean one.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
No, no outsiders who aren't mean. But what's all so
beautiful about this is when he talks to him and
he criticizes him about his blindness and his expectations for
a woman. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Well, he says to him.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
You know what, you better get yourself a new girlfriend,
all right, because this isn't gonna last that much longer. Yeah, well,
whose fault is it that I don't have a girlfriend anymore?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Larry?
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Hey, I did your favorite. The problem is it's hard
to even fix you up. You're so particular.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I would like to be an attractive woman, Yes, I wouldn't, not.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Long as you have to be good looking. But she's
going out with a blind man, so just to wait
on hand and foot.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
So what matters to women is what's on the inside
of a fella.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Okay, first of all, you've got nothing good inside of you. Okay,
let me just make that clear. You're the most superficial
man I've ever met.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Be that blind or sighted as.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
It meant, it's just not fair that people get to
see her and I don't.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
So he's saying, it's not fair that everybody knows what
she looks like except you.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Right, you're the most superficial man I've ever met. He
says to You're the most superficial man I've ever met.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And he says, how would you know how beautiful they are?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, he wouldn't, And then we cut to Larry doing
his lines to himself, saying, you know, Max BIELI stock,
I did summer stock in the winter, you know, hilarious. Yeah,
And he's in his car and he's going into a
parking lot and the what is that called the arm,
the wooden arm comes down on the way in the front.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Of the hood.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I can't remember what those are called. Whatever, the thing
that comes down at a parking.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So he goes into reverse and he reverses through that
tired thing that do not reverse will cause tire damage,
which you know you always see.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You wonder is it really going to cause tire damage? Yes,
it does.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Those spikes Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And then Ben and Christine have to pick him up
so he can't open the back door. And Ben is
taking Christine to yoga and Larry goes off on a
ridiculous riff about yoga and yogurt and they related.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And dot and they're pulling in. He's still on the.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Road, still carrying on.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It reminded me of the last episode at Ben's birthday
party when he's talking to Katie Huffman in that same way,
and in the first episode with mel when he's trying
to pick up the beautiful girl and he's talking about
bowling balls, this is just digging, digging, digging holes.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
But every single time, all I think of Sari Moons.
Sari's my girlfriend. And when I watch those episodes, I
thought of us, because I do that naturally, which you
might know. And I thought to myself, poor, poor Sarry
to have to deal with that, because I really great, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I'm so glad that you're learning something from doing it.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
By the way, I am. And Larry off camera doesn't
do that, but I do. I'm the one who does that.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
No, Larry is the opposite of that. He's very comfortable
with silence.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yes, as you know, Jeff is not well. No, on
a conscious level. I am on the subconscious level, No
fucking way, yeah, because obviously I act out.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So they drop Christine off at yoga and Ben says,
when you come sit up front, Larisa, I'm good, I'm good,
I'm okay, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
And Ben's like.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm not going to drive you around like I'm your chauffeur.
And Larr's what kind of person? It is so insecure?
And I agree with Larry on this fun.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Right the way I wrote that to Larry not wrong,
especially because it's a very short run.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Very sure what are you just going, yeah, we're not. Yeah,
what's the big fucking deal?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Right, that's a rare occurrence of Larry being right.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I think he's almost always right, Jeff, he's almost always right.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
No, I feel that he does not have the common
courtesy to just let him. Like, you're with your shirts
with all the the watch McCall's, the bedaz yeah, bedazzled shirts.
All he has to say to you is, hey, those
those are lovely and then move on. Yes, but instead so, yes,
he's right, they're bullshit shirts. But he doesn't have common courtesy.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
He doesn't have common courtesy.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
However, Yeah, when it comes to a moral or ethical issue,
he's almost always right.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Well, that's the reason people like the show because they
can associate with and also say I wish I could
say that. Well they could. I would have liked to.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Have said that, right, say what people think, but will
not say.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, that's that's the magic.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So then they continue.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Ben calls him a grown man baby a little baby
wants to walk, just like ridiculous. It devolves into a
ridiculous fight. You're the baby, you're the baby. Bit bit
bit bit bit bit bet. Cut to that Larry walks
into the kitchen of his house singing and complains that
to Cheryl, your little cousin finished all the grape nuts
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and how much longer is he going to be there?
And he wants to borrow Cheryl's car. She says, okay,
but will you take it to the car wash? And
then Cheryl's little cousin Stewart enters, and this broke my heart.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I know it's it's uh Anton Yelhun.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Anton Yelchin, who played at the I thought it's yelkin.
Maybe it's pronounced yelkin, it's a ch but maybe it's you.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Of your options. Maybe his family said everyone can pronounce
it correctly.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Maybe, but he was a really talented kid. He was
played check Off in the Star Treks and.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Actually was not just a good actor. The kids were
remarkable and.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
He was remarkable in this part, remarkable.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
In this part, and as people if you know or
don't know, he passed away, and you know, not only
was he sweet and a wonderful actor, his mom was
sweet too. See when you work with children, as I've
done before, Daddy daycare, etc. You know, Wizards of Waverley
(11:27):
Place and my other credits check out IMDb for the
full list of credits, and then you can see children
not children anyhow. Point being, it has everything to do
with the parents when they're on set, because so many
of these parents are so overbearing and they're living their
life through their children that their children grow up to
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be drug addicts and assholes. And I'm not exaggerating, and.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
It's said, well, we know that, but Jeff his parents
were professional figure skaters. Yes, so they know about being
in the public eye, and you know when they came
from the Soviet Union.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But his mother, who was with him was such a
wonderful woman. I remember during daddy daycare, it was the
grandma and the mother who came El Fanning, the Fanning family,
and those girls have grown up to be remarkable women.
I'm just saying, basically, I'm saying, don't let your kids
in show business if it's about you now. But a
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narcissist is not going to know that. Let's keep going.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Well anyway, it broke my heart to see him because
he died way too young, and he was so talented.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
It was a horrible way that he died, and talented.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
And sweet that's a double bonus. You know, he hangs
with Larry in this. Oh he doesn't give in. Oh yeah,
he does not give in, which is remarkable.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Okay, go ahead, and he shows Larry a card trick
and it's actually a very good cart trick and Lars
has had you do that. No, no, magicians don't tell
people how they do their tricks.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, well, you're not really a magician. Oh yeah, I am. Well,
because you do one trick that a magician to a trick?
Speaker 6 (13:01):
You were you a magician before you knew how to
do that trick?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
No?
Speaker 6 (13:05):
Really, well who taught you how to do the trick?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
A magician? Okay, so you weren't a magician.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
A magician taught you how to do the trick, right, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
So I'm not a magician.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
Now you're a magician, So you teach me how to
do it?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I can't just because he said I am a magician,
I can't teach you. He's like a magicians don't tell
And he's like, you know, if a magician taught you,
Larry says, a magician taught you, so you could teach me. Yeah,
but you're not a magician. I love that whole run
with him.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
A magician.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
By the way, the great line is why did the
magician tell you because I'm a magician? No, no, no,
because he knew I was a magician.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Right, which is just And the magician can tell I'm
a magician and you're not.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
He says, yeah, yeah, So I just love that. And
what Larry leaves.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Cheryl says to Stuart, her cousin Stewart Anton, you guys
are a lot alike.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
And he says, yeah, except he's not a magician. I mean,
he was just spot on this kid. Everything.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
He said.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Right, we'll be.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Right back, stay tuned.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
Okay, we're back.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
And then you and Larry are going into Mel's office
and Larry asks you if you're going to the Halloween
party and if you're wearing a costume, and you say,
of course, and he's not gonna wear a costume, but
of course you're going to wear a costume. And then
before you go into the office, Larry tells Jeff that
last night he was, you know, in the bathroom taking
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care of a few things. J Jen, Larry, that's what
I meant, Jeff tills Larry and Jenna, what is it?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Jenna Jamison?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Jenn. At that time, she was the number one porn.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Star, shorn star. She was in your head? She pops out,
and guess who popped in?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Cheryl, Cheryl, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
He's yeah, she was there. I couldn't believe it, you know,
I just boom, she was there. You can't control it.
Pops in? She pops in, She pops in? Well, why
did you pop her out? I tried popping around. She
wouldn't pop out. Was she insisted on staying? Not exactly.
I want to be here with you, Jeff. I couldn't
pop around. I'm out of control that. Besides, my bench
is kind of thin. I don't really have a lot
going on there. Oh your bench? Just what was she
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on your team? Now my team? She popped in?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Well?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
He using my wife for I tell you, be flattered. Flattered.
I'm fucking nauseous.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Larry is not happy about this, and I don't blame him.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
No. I teased this in an earlier episode where we
were seeing the house that Larry used to shoot we
used to shoot in. We filmed this scene before I know.
It was really funny and I got right to the point,
but too harsh. Larry said, we have to go into
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this more conversational Hu and softer for this kind of scene.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
When he told me that, I was like, oh man,
that that scene was so funny. And then we redid it,
and he always goes you see, you know, and I
course I see, so this one it's more of a
conversation and I'm more of an innocent like I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Well, also you thought he'd be flattered. Yes, what you say,
which is hilarious.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Nuts, that's the least. Oh that was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, yeah, and let Larry says, I'm nauseous, and You're like,
it didn't really happen. It'll never I'll never intentionally use
her again. But you are right, you can't control who
pops in.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Uh well, yes we see that later on.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
You know, yes we too, And Larry's like, next time
she pops in, pick up your pants and get out
of the room. So they walk into Mal's office. You know,
I'm just thinking about it. How I would feel if
somebody told me I popped into there. I guess it
would depend on who it was. How would you feel, moaned?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Well, I mean, don't people are using us all the
time with whether they tell us or don't tell us, right, Yeah,
but how do you feel about right, So at.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Any point, I just can't picture someone using me.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Someone is someone is Well, by the way, I used
to do a joke.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
It never worked, but I thought it was really funny.
No matter what, somewhere someone is masturbating to that show,
seeing the news, doesn't.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Matter what ever, it is somewhere in the world. Yes,
so correct.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Under that, guys. Yeah, I guess I popped in a feture.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
You know, I used to have a website which I
don't even have, but on my website was a contact thing.
This is many many years ago, and I had to
take it down because it was all these men sending
me all these s and m things.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Which is funny for this episode exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
But they would send me things like baking me to screaming.
You know, who knows who's turned on by what, but
they would send me these things baking me.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
We also never know anything we're about to say or
think or do. We are always surprising ourselves an never
know anything about anything. Forget the jerking off part.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
The jerking off is just the extra special cherry on
the cave.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Well, by the way, I want to say, if you
know the other person and there's a seduction and an
attraction when you tell the other person that much more
so women telling men that you thought of them. That
I know. For if someone came up to me and
I was attracted to them, and they told me that
they thought of me, I would have been like, oh,
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how about wow?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, an attractive woman, you would have been flattered.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
No, No, any woman I'd be flattered, would it to
be attractive? I'm not a blind man.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I was not flattered that men wanted me to scream,
yell and spank.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I'm talking about people, you know. Yeah, that's online crap.
Someone's sitting in their basement wanting us and m with you,
and their mom's upstairs making eggs salad.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
But if it is someone you know, then the next
time you gather with them, then it is a little
bit a little ick.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Right, Well, no ick, if you feel ick, I imagine
that there's someone that you really dig and they say,
you know, in a non creepy way.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Just I was just gonna say that, Jeff, it can
feel creepy.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It's all how you approach it.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Right.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
If you were a victim to the pop in and
you're you were victimized by your own subconscious and.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
That's all it different. But I would never my character
would never tell Cheryl.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Just saying, but I have no interest in real life
in knowing anything about who or what.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
My husband fantasizes about. I don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Well, by the way, my girlfriend thinks I don't because
she doesn't like it me thinking about anyone but her.
By the way, yes, but now she won't anymore because
I've said it.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
All right, well whatever, it's a fantasy.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
That's what text scrolling is.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
For text rolling.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Text scrolling when.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
You love someone's phone, that's a bad idea.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I don't want to want to talk.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Anytime you look at you look at your partner's emails
or phone, you're getting information you should not have.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
And it's a bad.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Idea, an utter invasion of privacy.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
It shouldn't because if there was trust, then you wouldn't
need to exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yes and no. Because even though I don't do stuff
like that, sexting or what have you, I would not
want anyone bringing it.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
No, because it's privately Google in the government.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Right, Oh yeah, why I don't use Google. I use
Perplexity because it eliminates there's no tracking, like you look
up what's the best way to make porridge, just saying,
but it'll give you all the information and there's the bottom,
all the sources, so you can see.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
What's really what is perplexity?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Perplexity. It's an app, and.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I discuss it after I want to find out people.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well, I remember, I just want to go back in time.
So I'm in New York and uh, a friend of
mine tells me I need to get somewhere. He goes,
have you tried Uber? And I was like, Uber? What's that?
And he goes, don't tell anyone. And I was using
where it was a new thing, And I remember being
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on stage at Caroline's in New York talking about Uber.
Nine tenths of the audience had no idea what I
was talking about. So what I'm basically saying is I'm
ahead of my time.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Oh you are an innovator baby, Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
But Perplexity. I recommend it, and I don't think it'll
affect my usage. If people use it.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I hope that we have enough listeners that it makes
a difference.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
No, I don't want it to make a difference. I
want them to enjoy it, but if it scruise me,
I don't want it to make a difference.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
So you and Larry walk into Mel's office and Joanne
played by Rachel Harris, is they're not happy to see
you if she doesn't like you.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
But all done, I've always avoided her. I go sit down,
I say hello, here to see Mel. At this episode,
Larry thought it'd be good if I got the shit
to establish that it's not.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Just him, right, So you go into By the.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Way, I go on a lot of tangent on the.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Show, and I ignore them, and by the way.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
She ignores them. And sometimes we fight because she ignores
them because sometimes I actually think they're interesting. The last
one who knows.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
So you go into the room and there's Mel and
Norm and Rudy and Mel ask Any complaints that Larry
says he's not happy with the toilet paper in the
rehearsal law, which.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
By the way, brilliant. I went to someone's house one time,
and I do this. I used to bring pop tarts
and toilet paper to a party like here, I've brought
something people are always really happy about that pop tarts
are delicious. Who doesn't need toilet paper? I did it
as a joke the last time I did it, and
(22:43):
I didn't check the toilet paper. I bring it and
a relative of this person looks at me and goes,
it's single ply, and it was being dead serious, and
I'm like, what, I don't like single.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Pl but I do.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Do you read I.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Prefer Scott tissue single ply.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I've never met you want to prefer single There.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
You go to save the planet or you like the texture.
Now I just I'm used to it. It's one of
those things. That's what I'm used to, is what I
grew up with. That's what I'm used to.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
By the way, I buy recycled toilet paper, which is
just as soft, but it might be two or three
I know it's at least two ply, if not three ply.
And so I'm upset with you keep.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Going Okay, So apparently he was Ben's books Fuck, Bad
and Beautiful, So you shit a lot. In Florida, Mel
tells Larry that Ben gave him an ultimatum and said
either Larry or me, and Mel picked Larry and Ben
(23:44):
is out.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Ben Stiller is out of the producers.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Mel picked Larry and Norman Rudy do a tag team
on Larry on this You couldn't sit in the front
of the car, you didn't bring a gift to the party.
They go on that you didn't shake hands, you wouldn't
sing the birthday songs.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
It's really funny that Ben would tell them this is.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
The right little detailed the skewer. Well, the skewer was
major because of his eye. And Larry says, you know what,
it was a blessing in disguise. And Mel says, how
about David Schwimmer? Okay, maybe, uh huh, And then you
guys leave and Norm says to him, you're making a
terrible mistake.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
He's mentally challenged that.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Maybe with yeahous, Mel says, there's something about this middle
aged ball guy that is thrilling.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Well, by the way, Mel's undying belief in Larry David
for this role.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Well we find out why.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, because he's great. Yeah, but also a piece of
trivia that I'll give now because I don't know that
I'll remember it. Larry was so good that he was
offered to really do it. Yes, that's how good Larry was. Yes,
in portraying it, because he's perfect to be Max bi
Alstock And no, he was actually offered and you know,
(24:55):
I guess he didn't want to do it. I know
he didn't want to him, not because it wasn't good.
I think he was just the thought of it was overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, also to do for he did a straight play
eight shows a week, and that was brutal. To do
a musical eight shows a week, Oh my god, that
is exhausting.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Do you know they put out feelers for me for hairspreads?
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
And not only did I not want to do I
love the show, but not only did I not want
to do it. Part of it you had to shave
your eyebrows, and I'm sorry, I'll shave my head for
a part. No eyebrows. Sorry, eyebrows have to.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Stay, all right, Well, you have your standards, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
But the idea of me walking on the street during
the day without eyebrows or penciling them in, no, thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
That was missus Burkerwitz, my kindergarten teacher. I remember that
about her.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Her eyebrows were gone and it was thick brown pencil
and it struck I remember, five years old.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
It's a clown. Look, yeah, it's very scary.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
So now Larry takes the car.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
He sees guys in the street holding up signs for
a car wash, Cheryl that has him to wash the car.
Ten and these guys are clearly mentally challenged. What are
you supposed to say mentally challenged? Mentally is that the
at least I believe so it changes all the time,
changes all the time.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
What we did hear that was a mistake? Was we
cast to people who are not mentally challenged?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yes, Judah Friedlander And why do you think it was
a mistake, Jess.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Because that's not right. You don't want someone now, Look,
I'm not saying the elephant man or my left foot.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
You have to hire somebody or else or Dustin Hoffman
and Rainman.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Dustin Hoffman and Rainman. That's a different kind of thing
for this. It should have been all mentally challenged people.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Well, you know what, I think it worked well, Yes
it worked.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
But I'm saying, and it's not that you can't do
this today. I just think and we're usually good, Like
I mentioned two people who were in wheelchairs, we you know,
had people who were really in wheelchairs. And by the way,
when you see the scene encanters later, the people who
are actually mentally challenged do a great job with dialogue.
(27:05):
So I'm just saying that it's improvised, so I forgot
the reasoning why we did it.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But we'll be right back. Stay tuned, and we're back.
So the car wash is a complete fiasco.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
We see it. It's just a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And it's all finished, and Larry's driving and all of
a sudden he runs out of gas and he calls, Shaul.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You let me you lift the car. No guess of
the car. And then my sunblock is missing. My sunblock
is missing, and I have to pee. He has to
pee really bad, so he goes. He goes to a tree,
but then a woman walks out the door, so he stops.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
And then he's knocking on door after door and people
are shutting the doors in his face and just saying
no and no, and it's about five or six of
them and finally, but go ahead, es sorry.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Look, I know we're getting the moon right now. But
I want to say something. This is something I fought
against because when you have to pee bad, you can't
go to a half dozen houses. You got a one
or two and then you're taking your chance in some
bush somewhere. That to me, I know that's not what
Larry would do. I mean he would It's a tough thing.
(28:24):
But I always wanted to get to Moon quicker because
I hate unrealistic shit, even for the purpose of comedy.
If it's that blatantly unrealistic, And what would have been
bad about h having to pee going to one or
two houses and the people's reactions were not that funny,
and then going to one or two houses and then
be it Moon's and all right, let's get to Moon.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I disagree because I think it heightened it and it
didn't bother me at all.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
But then he comes knocks on a door.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Well, by the way, disagree to disagree?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah, Then he knocks on a door and a woman
answers in a burka with the most rgeous hazel eyes
I've ever seen, which are really pronounced because that's all
you see.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Oh my God, may help you.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
My Cob is out of gas and I'm just desperate
to as a bathroom.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Come in, Please come in, be my invited guest.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Come in.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
You're kidding, please come in, Please do come in.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Oh my God, and she's uh, come in, come in.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
That that accent was so beautiful, Boone, Did you base
it on anything, No, it just.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Just popped out.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Being in That just made it up.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, And did the sweetness come for you? Did we
tell you to be sweet or did you Did that
just come out of your character? Was that an adjustment
or no?
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I think he was asking me to be friendly. And
by the way, do you talk about the importance of
just a philosophy of yes? And is the possibly the
most important thing we should all adopt?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, and improv Yes, and it is.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
You really did it, and which made him so happy.
But it was also such a beautiful surprise, and you know,
I believed it completely. See that I believe that she
would invite him in that she's she was trusting. Yeah,
it was just so it was actually joyful and fun to.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Watch and so delighted to have him.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
And then he needs gasoline that my wife left it empty,
and then I love that. But oh, you were married.
That's a disappointment. You know, I thought I had finally
met someone. You thought he was your soulmate that just
knocked on the door. It was so sweet, But the way.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
She said, oh you're married, that is such a disappointment. Yeah,
was just so blatant and beautiful at the same time.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, there was a there was a sweetness to you
that was just very infectious.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
That was the thing that I picked up watching this
was her character's kindness and sweetness because and agreeability. Just
the whole thing was pretty great. And by the way,
may I also say for our listeners, yes, I'm get
excited with Moon. It's not because she's here. If she
wasn't here, I'd be just as excited. I don't stick
(31:07):
my head up anybody's ass. It wouldn't fit number one
and number two. I like being honest. I just said
I didn't like the knocking on the doors. So what
I want to say is Moon was that great.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
She was terrific, Okay, And Larry says, he, well, we're
very superficial people. We like to know what women look like.
So it's going to be tough for you to meet somebody.
And then and then he gets an idea. They see
the light bulb go on us and he says, I
think I got a guy for you. And it's a
literal blind gait as you say yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
And next oh, you go to Cantor's.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
She's driving him.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yeah, you're driving to get gasoline. And then you're he
says you want deli.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, he says, you want to go to lunch, and
she says, yes, that'll be lovely. Do you like Deli? Sure?
I love Deli? Exploring, heighten, exploring, heighten. Look what you're doing?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Car wash?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Guys are there at a table eating and he says,
how did you do today?
Speaker 3 (32:04):
And the shm if they seed his sun block?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Hello? Wow? Remember me? Yeah, the guy with the really
clean car? Yeah? Yeah, blue car.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
You guys did quite a good job on that car.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Thank you very much. No, how'd you do today?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Good?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Very good?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, we did good today. You didn't. How much money
did you make?
Speaker 4 (32:24):
We made one hundred dollars?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
We had ten cars? Wow? Pretty good? Congratulations? Good, good good.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Hey, guys, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Did you happen to see.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Any sunblock on the passenger seat in my car?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I don't know. I never saw any sunblock at all?
Is that right? Don't you get a feeling by the
way in the way that they replied that they kept
the money?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Oh, I don't know. What do you mean they kept
the money?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
In other words, when he asked them, the look on
their faces was very mischievous, like they were keeping a secret.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Well, because it was about the sun block. The secret
was about no.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
No, no, no, no, no, I'm saying when he said how
did you do today? And the last guy says one
hundred dollars. But they were playing it with smirks on
their face and they were trying to hold in laughter,
which Larry didn't notice. And obviously you didn't notice.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Keep going, well I did. I thought it was about
the sun block. No, because we know nothing about the
sun block.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
They did that after that.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
And well, then I didn't notice that.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
And then Larry and Haboo sit with them, and Larry says,
weren't there four of you? And then Judah Friedlander shows
up with the sun block all over.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. At first they
say it was just the three of them, and then
they say, yeah, there was a four.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Well they were lying, yeah, yes, no, no, I.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Know that, but there was a build up to Judah
showing up with it all over his face. I've known
Judah for years. We performed together many many times. I
was so happy that he did show i'lbeit against what
I thought was right.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
And then they said relied and they laugh, left, laugh
and giggle.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
It's just a delightful scene.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
And then Larry is they're passing food and he drops
food on Habous's burka, and Larry says, I'm gonna go
get this cleaned. And then Larry tells a joke. They're
all laughing, and while this is all everybody's hysterical. She
no no, no, no, no no no, but he insists
on it. It's we see the whole interaction.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
But also what was great about this and thoughtful was
he didn't touch her douse. That would have been terrible, right.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Right, keep going, They're all laughing, yucking it up, yucking up,
and Norman Rudy walk in and see all this.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
It's quite the visual. If I'm sitting at a table nearby,
I'm inherently curious on that one, like what's going on there?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
How was doing that scene?
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Moon? Uh? Yeah, I mean I just first of all,
I just mostly remember Larry Humming. He was like a
weird radio station in between the takes.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
So yeah that he whistles, whistles.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Later years he would sing. He went from homing to singing.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Okay, all right, well, and then just you know, you,
as a professional, you just try to stay in character
and just see how the character feel about the circumstance.
And then and if you're you know, I would imagine
that if that's normal to you, then you're just used
to the weird thing.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
It must have been fun to play, really fun, Yeah,
really fun. I could see that. I could see you
having a good time in your eyes. This is the
only place I saw it.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Right, It's freedom. My dream jobs are where you don't
have to wear makeup.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
So oh yeah, well you don't have to wear makeup
or memorized lines exactly by the way.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I would go with Sam's costume if it wasn't most
of the time of suit, although I do wear suits. Yeah,
I did a Steven Soderberg movie called Full Frontal, and
you wore your own clothes and did your own makeup,
no kidding, And that I loved that was like, you know,
how to thank him for that? Was? That was to me.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
The wardrobe, I don't care well, I love my wardrobe.
I mean on curb.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Gardrobe is another story. Yeah, that's actually a story on
its own.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
But the not having to learn lines to me is
the highlight.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Relaxing, so delightful, I mean, holy Molly. And then by
the way, Moon's character, who wouldn't love a friend like that?
Who just she's so lovely no, no, but game game
to do anything. Yes, let's go to a pottery shop,
let's go make Dradle's, let's go buy as many raisins
(36:30):
as we can. These are things I might like to do.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
It's surprising she doesn't have a guy. She's such a
great gal.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Next we're at Michael's and Larry is telling him about
haboos and Michael is like, you've leveled the playing field.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, that's a great line.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Level the playing No one knows what she looks like.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Everyone is blind now, Larry says, and lack but says,
I do have to go with you to chaperone, which,
of course, because she's Muslim and very strict and has.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
To be done.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
So next we are back at Larry's house and Stewart
is doing card tricks in his bedroom in his Superman costume.
It's Halloween and Larry's trying to guess the trick and
he demands to know, and Stuart.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Is just like, you know what I mean, a magician.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
He's just so matter of fact and non plus you
know you're not a magician, Harry.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
But what's beautiful about this? With the trick and everything?
Larry's getting furious at this kid.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Really, Trick is not a magician, he says to him.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
He tells him, when you come back with the Halloween candy,
I'm taking half of it.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Okay, that's like a real you know, nasty.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
By the way, Anton at no point laughed. Larry's hilarious
and even at that age, so focused.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
So see that he was probably about twelve or something.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember, by the way, sitting with
he and his mom at our wrap party. They were
just delightful, I mean really yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
And then from the background, Cheryl calls Larry. And then
Cheryl is in her costume. She's in a dream of
Genie costume, looking very fetching and hot.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
Look at this happy Halloween.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Oh my god, huh isn't she like correct?
Speaker 4 (38:16):
That's great?
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Oh look at Andy Divine over here?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Use I am sure now you look hot?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Thank you, Susie.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
What are you wearing?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
What is this?
Speaker 1 (38:27):
No outfit?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
No costume? She could wear a burlapped bag and looked
fetching and.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Hot and hot. And then Jeff and I walk in.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Jeff is dressed in a cowboy Andy Devine look, and
I am in full Dominatrix garb And I'll tell you
something funny about that day that I recall.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
And I was wearing these spike heels and I couldn't walk.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
I had to basically be carried and placed down because
they were like these.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Thigh high patent leather boots and spike heels.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I don't remember you if you remember when I saw you,
I couldn't function.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
I was.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
It was quite the outfit.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
But what I remember most about that is the crew
guys were so solicitous to me when I was in
that outfit. It was like they could completely change. They
were like, Susie, can I get you anything? And I
was like one of them. You know, I've been working
with them all these years. I was like one of them.
They were like my brothers. And all of a sudden,
I'm in this black patent leather with a whip.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
I had a whim and by the.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Way, what else did you have? Domin ponytail?
Speaker 1 (39:30):
I had a ponytail Dominatrix outfit and they were all like, Susie,
do you need anything? But they was like how men
are so visually oriented and completely change on a dime
by a visual It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Audio wise change on the dime. All we need to
hear is someone who might be having sex, someone who's
they're going, oh, you know even that, like, are they
having sex? No, it's both men. Just react.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
It's ridiculous. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
It was so noticeable that I'm in a dominatrix outfit
and all these guys that I saw every day are
my ass Oh.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, I never knew this. And by the way, may
I knowing that crew, I'm actually.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Surprised, I recall. I recalled that. It was like, wow,
look at this.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
We'll be right back, stay tuned, Okay.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
We're back.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
And then Jeff kind of very surreptitiously looks at Cheryl's boobs,
you know, because she's wearing something very low cut.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
And then right away Larry notices it and he's like,
all right, that's it, you're changing.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
And he brings out how Boos's burka, which he had,
and it's in the dry cleaning thing, you know, with
the plastic and just back for the drive cleaners.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
You're going as an Islamic fundamentalist.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Then four of us are in the car, and the
fact that it's not realistic to me that Cheryl actually
listened to him.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
But whatever it was for a purpose.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
The four of us are in the car, Larry and
Cheryl in the back, and these kids. What did he say, hey,
oh sama or something like this obnoxious kid throws an
egg at Cheryl in the burkup, which she ducks and
it goes into Larry's face.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Now I want to give a little background on that. Okay,
that night, Larry was really sick. I mean we shot
that at like six o'clock in the morning. If I
read run yes car at Sam Vicente, I remember Jay.
But hold on, though, Larry's up all night and he's
sick as a dog. I mean, he's really sick. He
(41:37):
usually contains that no one knows. We knew he was sick.
He was a cold sweat the whole thing. And the
egg thing didn't work. It missed, it hit the wrong place.
You had to have done and I'm not exaggerating, probably
eight nine times getting the egg thrown at his face
and almost well, and you always had to get one safety.
(42:01):
So once it hit, we had to keep trying for
it to hit. And it wasn't the kid throwing it,
that was just there was no car on the other side. Obviously,
but I forgot who was maybe door, I don't know
who was tossing it into his face from a very
short distance, one after another, and Larry feeling the way
(42:24):
he did. Wow.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
And also, even if you're feeling well, who wants raw
egg on their face?
Speaker 3 (42:28):
It's a salmonila nightmare? Who wants that on you?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Well? By the way, don't forget Rocky put a raw
egg in his drink and he didn't pretty good.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Yeah, I'm not from the raw egg people.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
By the way, can I tell you I would have
bet everything I own that you're not part of the
raw egg people?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Now, not me, my paranoid self. Okay, So the kid
throws the egg on Larry. Next we cut to Michael
and Larry Or at Haboose's front door. The blind date
is happening and it's raining, and Larry has an umbrella
and Haboos answers the door. Her abuliant is that the
word abuliant? And oh you're beautiful to Michael and date
(43:06):
with two handsome men, and she's so excited and what
shall we do?
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Shall we take a walk?
Speaker 1 (43:12):
And you know, she's thinking of things to do, and
Larry says, well, you could walk because I have an umbrella,
and he goes to open the umbrella and he pulls
off her burka somehow at the point of the umbrella,
and you see Larry's face.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
He's just disgusted, but she's.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Also horrified at the exact same time.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Of course, she's hard to great and this really bothered me.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
What would he mean?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
It really bothered me that they were so judgmental of
her looks.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
But if I may, that wasn't necessary.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
What wasn't necessary?
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Well, the blind man obviously can't be but Larry being
so judgmental, although maybe that was showing that even Larry
is shallow in that situation.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
But Moon with the table, what the fuck of these
two guys to be so goddamn judge meant all like
it's Brad Pitt and Paul Newman standing.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Well, by the way, that's the joke. But Moon in
that moment, because I was standing behind Moon watching and
I was standing behind Larry when we did both sides.
But the noises that she makee when she was upset
were hilarious.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
How did you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Moon?
Speaker 4 (44:23):
I mean, you know, if you're playing somebody who's ugly
and wants to be accepted as they are, and it's
you know, it's I think that's always an interesting circumstance.
I mean, you know, beauty.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
Really is in the eye beholder, and it's just a
funny setup that, you know, like you said, I if
somebody's blind, why does it matter, But that.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
He's sent the umbrella hit you on one or two takes.
I remember that because.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
It's very it's almost as though Larry's reaction was almost
as though you were deformed or something. Yeah, that's how
I took it, you know what I mean, Like it
was so extreme that you were just figured and he was,
you know, shocked and appalled by that.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's how I took it too,
that I was undtable, undatable even for a blind man.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
All right, Then we're back at Larry's house and Stewart
is showing Judah Friedlander, who's at Larry's house, the trick,
and Judah figures out the trick. So this mentally impaired
person figured out the trick that Larry couldn't figure and
Judas says, anyone could figure that out.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Well, by the way, here's another thing for Judas performance.
And he did look mentally challenged. But part of it
is is yeah, you know, putting the time and you
can see his tongue pushing out his bottom lip, and
it was just, you know, he was in character, that
was for sure. But yeah, yeah, that was really funny.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
And then then we see Larry in the bathroom. No, no,
where's Arry Chelsea's I don't know. I think he's in
the bathroom. We see Larry in the bathroom fantasizing he's
walking backstage in the theater. Katie Huffman comes out in
some feathery kind of a thing and calls him into
her dressing room pink feathers, and you know, you feel
like the seduction is gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
And then all of a sudden, who pops in.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
In your outfit by the way.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
In my dominatrix outfit? Yes, and Lars, where's the other one?
Where's the other one? I want the other one?
Speaker 1 (46:14):
I was like, you got me, baby, Yeah, you went nuts.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
It was awesome.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
It was so much fun. That was such a fun
scene to do. I'm just like, it was just so
much fun. And that was it.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
That was it, And that was the sad story of
Haboos and Michael that they could have been a lovely couple.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
But you know what, I think he wasn't good enough
for Haboos.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Well, of course he wasn't. Michael's a jerk.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Michael's a superficial asshole.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Shallow blind man who writes it.
Speaker 5 (46:44):
Is interesting though, because it's true that, you know, which
is in the beginning of the podcast, that you guys
got in on the ground floor with the freedom to
be inappropriate, and then in fact it's it's you know,
that's what's your what the show is, it'said tension a right.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Imagine an NBC show where one of the care there's
criticizes rightly, mind you a blind person the letters. To
my knowledge, we don't get letters. Do you know? The
only show that we got some pushback on is when
Larry peas on the Jesus and the.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Bed doesn't pee on the Jesus. No, it bounces, splashes.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Splashes, But we got complaints on that.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
That was the only one that I remember.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Also, yeah, yeah, but most people love it.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
But looking back in this way, it is interesting too.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
It is like analyzing a dream when you when you
think about it, because when you improvise a show and
then you reflect on it as though it was intentional,
because it's your you're reflecting on the improvised moments, and
so it's it's it's just an interesting, weird exercise and
considering now like it makes me think of how composers
(47:51):
must have played.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Music before there were recording devices. There's no way to
capture it.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
Yeah, but you're you know, you play the music in
real time and in a forward linear way, and only
the audience is like, what was that? And then you
can't hear it back as the composer or as the audience.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
But we've advanced to be able to look at the stuff, and.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
That's what this whole exercise of doing this podcast has
been for us.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Moon We're looking back.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
But also just that there's all these just talking about
the psychological parts of it, and the surprise is about
how you arrive at something.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
By the way, originally cast in that role was Bette
Midler and she quit same day. Then Ben Vereen came in.
Then it was Susie What.
Speaker 4 (48:31):
Is that true?
Speaker 3 (48:32):
No, what do you mean that's true?
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Ben Vereen? Ben Vero? But what do I know?
Speaker 4 (48:40):
What people like and what they now?
Speaker 3 (48:42):
It was always made from day one? No one else
was ever cast.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
And why and how did you both get the jobs.
Did you both audition?
Speaker 5 (48:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (48:50):
What for this?
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Neither of us are auditioned. We both knew Larry No,
I the show.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Mine's different because I came up with the idea for
the show, and I approached Larry. And it's always good
to tell a genius your idea, and the show turned
into what it did. And by the way, if I
was left to my own devices, even though they told
me I could make a show like I got the
green light on my own failure, failure, failure from the
(49:16):
get go. I told the genius and now here we.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
Are, and Larry just called me up one day and
offered me the part.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yes, we talked about he'd see that exactly, the roast.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Of generals for years I knew.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Oh yeah, we all knew each other.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
You know, all stand ups back in the old days
in New York catchurizing stars.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
So yeah, yeah, but that's how we got our Neither
one of us had to audition. Yeah, and s Cheryl
had audition, which we discussed last episode of the one
before JB had to audition. Yeah, Ted didn't have to audition.
He's Ted dancing well, by the way, just in life,
whatever he does, you just go oh he's Ted Danson.
(49:56):
We're going to.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
Discuss it coming up to the next episode. We have
another guest start. I'll tell you something. Going through these episodes,
and there's a lot of people who died over all
these years.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
It's it's horrible what.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
You're talking about. I know, Bob Einstein and Anton, hopefully a.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Bunch of others, a bunch of others.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
But anyway, we're going to get to that next episode.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Are you doing. The show's about positivity.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Yes, positive death is not negative?
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Death is reality yet negative, Susie, And everyone lives on
exactly and everyone's gonna die.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
But let's deal with more pleasant things, Susie.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Don't We loved having you with us and I I
once more admired your performer, Twista.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
I think was a tour de force in that.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
And I think, you know, it's an exercise for an
actress to not use their face. You could only use
your voice and your eyes. So that was another you
know trick is so to speak, that was working.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
So what a thing to come up with, because I
have to say, if I'm playing somebody who asked to
wear a mask, what voice do I use? How do
I play this? It's a very difficult like I always say,
I'm a comedian who acts, so have low expectations. But
I'm a decent actor. But I'm a comedian who acts,
(51:14):
and uh, Moon, I would say it is a writer
performer who acts. Am I correct? That's sure?
Speaker 4 (51:20):
Yeah, And I was surprised by how many people really
loved the performance.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
And we thank you for coming, and thank you for
adding positivity and not discussing death.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
It's not I have no problem. I don't find death negative.
I find it's.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Negative, but it doesn't need to be brought up. It's
a Curb your Enthusiasm podcast. Let's not talk about people
who died.
Speaker 4 (51:47):
Didn't but didn't he doesn't he talk about death in
a bunch of episodes.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
By the way, that the number of times, and I'm
not there's no exaggeration. I think three times we have
filmed in the cemetery in the middle of the night,
and I always walk around singing thriller.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
I do thank you for coming, Moon and audience. We
will see you next week, thank.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
You, and I promise you next week there'll be no
death talk. Bye, Susie. Oh they will be oh you
don't and who's going to tune in I Love a good.
Speaker 4 (52:18):
People get comfortable with death.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yeah, well next week is one of our favorite people
who is no longer with us, so we'll get to that.
Oh all right, Bye, by thanks everyone, by thanks moon, bye,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
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episode description. Hi everybody, I'm Susie Esmond.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm Jeff Darland.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
And today we are doing season four, episode three, the
Blind Date.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yes, and we have the blind date with us. Please
welcome Moon.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Zappa, Moonzapa.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Hi, everybody, Nice to be with.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You, Happy to have you here. Hello, It's an honor.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Moon, and it's nice to see your face out of
a burka. Having just watched the episode, Moon is an
old friend of mine who I love very nice. We
have never met because I wasn't in any of those
scenes with you, so we have never met, and it's
love to meet you.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
How did you get this part? I think I just auditioned.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I think I just came in and you did gave.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I plowed her through, which she was.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So good that she got it.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Jeff, No, no, no, Look, if she wasn't good, I
could not push her through the thing was she was
great and sometimes that still doesn't work. But when you
have somebody who's your friend in the room and you
kicked ass, you got the part. It's done.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So did you audition in a Burka Moon?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
No? But the thing is what I remember is Jeff
had said he tried a few times to bring me
into audition for a few different roles and nothing just
worked out prior to that. And so then when I
went in for that role.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I drove all the way from Hollywood to Santa Monica,
which is like saying I left the planet to go.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
To It depends on.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And well, Susie, you want to talk about time of
day from Hollywood to Santa Monica, Yeah, you're good around midnight.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I live in New York at four o'clock in the morning.
You can't go on the Cross Bronx Expressway any time
of day.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
The crossbro Expressway is a fucking nightmare.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
But all right, So nowadays you just have to treat
everything like it's.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You're going to a festival and your camp out before
you go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
It seems so you drove all the way.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I drove all the way and then uh, yeah, I
just remember that the process.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Of like being given a kind of a note and
then improvising a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
By the way, if I may, the notes that we
give to actors are not the actual scenes.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Right exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
There's something not even resembling the scene, just something totally different.
Because Larry doesn't want any of the stories.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
You just want anybody knowing.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah. Yeah, So there's these slips of paper, you know,
where it's just this little scene that has nothing to
do with what we're going to film.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And you know what's interesting to me rewatching these episodes
because I mean, I haven't seen this episode in nineteen years. Same,
what's interesting is once it's cast, nobody else could have
done that part.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I mean, yes, of course somebody else could have done
that part.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
No, but she did it with a spin that was
fucking beautiful.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Y that once you inhabit that part, it's like, you
can't even think of somebody else doing that part except
for Moon playing haboos.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Well, you know, some of my favorite things in the
world are matchmaking and matchmaking gone wrong. And outside of
professional life, is there anything funnier than people trying to
make love happen?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's just it happens all the time.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Yeah, exactly, And then to have the fun of getting
to have you know, whether you like a personality or
don't like a personality another personality is just a fun adventure.
And then to do it as though you are from
another country, which I think is riskier and riskier these
days and entertainment.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yes, it is so, and it's interesting watching this. Certain
things I don't know if they could be done today,
but exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh, by the way, that's true. I disagree on some levels,
but in terms of content not so much, because we're
a reverent and politically incorrect. Not to be reverent and
politically incorrect, it's just the way that turns out. But certainly,
with Moon's part, we would have.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Had to have hired and who would have ever known?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
No, no, but nonetheless a Middle Eastern actress. Yes, we
would have definitely had to but that's not a bad thing.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
No, But luckily Moon was hired because you were just perfect.
So let's start the episode. We start out with Larry
vacuuming Michael's apartment. This Michael is a real fucking primadonna.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Isn't also just Larry vacuuming?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Fur, this dude is funny on its own. Boom hilarious.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And Michael's got his headphones on and he's listening to music,
and you know, Larry's telling him he should get a
cordless vacuum. He's like, what what, he's not even he's
listening to his music. And then Larry says him, you
need to get yourself a new girlfriend. He's tired of
doing his errands in vacuuming, and and Michael says, it's
your fault that I don't have a girlfriend, which it
really is in Larry's fault.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
It is Michael's fault for being so petty and superficial.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
That's another thing about Larry's character. You can convince Larry
in the right moment that it's his fault. I'm talking
about the character.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Oh he's always willing to take blame.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah no, no, no, not from you, but like.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
From no, I mean, I don't mean me, I mean one.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
No, no outsiders who aren't mean. But what's all so
beautiful about this is when he talks to him and
he criticizes him about his blindness and his expectations for
a woman. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Well, he says to him.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
You know what, you better get yourself a new girlfriend,
all right, because this isn't gonna last that much longer. Yeah, well,
whose fault is it that I don't have a girlfriend anymore?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Larry?
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Hey, I did your favorite. The problem is it's hard
to even fix you up. You're so particular.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I would like to be an attractive woman, Yes, I wouldn't, not.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Long as you have to be good looking. But she's
going out with a blind man, so just to wait
on hand and foot.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
So what matters to women is what's on the inside
of a fella.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Okay, first of all, you've got nothing good inside of you. Okay,
let me just make that clear. You're the most superficial
man I've ever met.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Be that blind or sighted as.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
It meant, it's just not fair that people get to
see her and I don't.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
So he's saying, it's not fair that everybody knows what
she looks like except you.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Right, you're the most superficial man I've ever met. He
says to You're the most superficial man I've ever met.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And he says, how would you know how beautiful they are?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, he wouldn't, And then we cut to Larry doing
his lines to himself, saying, you know, Max BIELI stock,
I did summer stock in the winter, you know, hilarious. Yeah,
And he's in his car and he's going into a
parking lot and the what is that called the arm,
the wooden arm comes down on the way in the front.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Of the hood.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I can't remember what those are called. Whatever, the thing
that comes down at a parking.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So he goes into reverse and he reverses through that
tired thing that do not reverse will cause tire damage,
which you know you always see.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You wonder is it really going to cause tire damage? Yes,
it does.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Those spikes Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And then Ben and Christine have to pick him up
so he can't open the back door. And Ben is
taking Christine to yoga and Larry goes off on a
ridiculous riff about yoga and yogurt and they related.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And dot and they're pulling in. He's still on the.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Road, still carrying on.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It reminded me of the last episode at Ben's birthday
party when he's talking to Katie Huffman in that same way,
and in the first episode with mel when he's trying
to pick up the beautiful girl and he's talking about
bowling balls, this is just digging, digging, digging holes.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
But every single time, all I think of Sari Moons.
Sari's my girlfriend. And when I watch those episodes, I
thought of us, because I do that naturally, which you
might know. And I thought to myself, poor, poor Sarry
to have to deal with that, because I really great, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I'm so glad that you're learning something from doing it.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
By the way, I am. And Larry off camera doesn't
do that, but I do. I'm the one who does that.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
No, Larry is the opposite of that. He's very comfortable
with silence.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yes, as you know, Jeff is not well. No, on
a conscious level. I am on the subconscious level, No
fucking way, yeah, because obviously I act out.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So they drop Christine off at yoga and Ben says,
when you come sit up front, Larisa, I'm good, I'm good,
I'm okay, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
And Ben's like.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm not going to drive you around like I'm your chauffeur.
And Larr's what kind of person? It is so insecure?
And I agree with Larry on this fun.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Right the way I wrote that to Larry not wrong,
especially because it's a very short run.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Very sure what are you just going, yeah, we're not. Yeah,
what's the big fucking deal?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Right, that's a rare occurrence of Larry being right.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I think he's almost always right, Jeff, he's almost always right.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
No, I feel that he does not have the common
courtesy to just let him. Like, you're with your shirts
with all the the watch McCall's, the bedaz yeah, bedazzled shirts.
All he has to say to you is, hey, those
those are lovely and then move on. Yes, but instead so, yes,
he's right, they're bullshit shirts. But he doesn't have common courtesy.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
He doesn't have common courtesy.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
However, Yeah, when it comes to a moral or ethical issue,
he's almost always right.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Well, that's the reason people like the show because they
can associate with and also say I wish I could
say that. Well they could. I would have liked to.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Have said that, right, say what people think, but will
not say.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, that's that's the magic.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So then they continue.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Ben calls him a grown man baby a little baby
wants to walk, just like ridiculous. It devolves into a
ridiculous fight. You're the baby, you're the baby. Bit bit
bit bit bit bit bet. Cut to that Larry walks
into the kitchen of his house singing and complains that
to Cheryl, your little cousin finished all the grape nuts
(10:24):
and how much longer is he going to be there?
And he wants to borrow Cheryl's car. She says, okay,
but will you take it to the car wash? And
then Cheryl's little cousin Stewart enters, and this broke my heart.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I know it's it's uh Anton Yelhun.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Anton Yelchin, who played at the I thought it's yelkin.
Maybe it's pronounced yelkin, it's a ch but maybe it's you.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Of your options. Maybe his family said everyone can pronounce
it correctly.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Maybe, but he was a really talented kid. He was
played check Off in the Star Treks and.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Actually was not just a good actor. The kids were
remarkable and.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
He was remarkable in this part, remarkable.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
In this part, and as people if you know or
don't know, he passed away, and you know, not only
was he sweet and a wonderful actor, his mom was
sweet too. See when you work with children, as I've
done before, Daddy daycare, etc. You know, Wizards of Waverley
(11:27):
Place and my other credits check out IMDb for the
full list of credits, and then you can see children
not children anyhow. Point being, it has everything to do
with the parents when they're on set, because so many
of these parents are so overbearing and they're living their
life through their children that their children grow up to
(11:50):
be drug addicts and assholes. And I'm not exaggerating, and.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
It's said, well, we know that, but Jeff his parents
were professional figure skaters. Yes, so they know about being
in the public eye, and you know when they came
from the Soviet Union.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But his mother, who was with him was such a
wonderful woman. I remember during daddy daycare, it was the
grandma and the mother who came El Fanning, the Fanning family,
and those girls have grown up to be remarkable women.
I'm just saying, basically, I'm saying, don't let your kids
in show business if it's about you now. But a
(12:26):
narcissist is not going to know that. Let's keep going.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Well anyway, it broke my heart to see him because
he died way too young, and he was so talented.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
It was a horrible way that he died, and talented.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
And sweet that's a double bonus. You know, he hangs
with Larry in this. Oh he doesn't give in. Oh yeah,
he does not give in, which is remarkable.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Okay, go ahead, and he shows Larry a card trick
and it's actually a very good cart trick and Lars
has had you do that. No, no, magicians don't tell
people how they do their tricks.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, well, you're not really a magician. Oh yeah, I am. Well,
because you do one trick that a magician to a trick?
Speaker 6 (13:01):
You were you a magician before you knew how to
do that trick?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
No?
Speaker 6 (13:05):
Really, well who taught you how to do the trick?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
A magician? Okay, so you weren't a magician.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
A magician taught you how to do the trick, right, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
So I'm not a magician.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
Now you're a magician, So you teach me how to
do it?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I can't just because he said I am a magician,
I can't teach you. He's like a magicians don't tell
And he's like, you know, if a magician taught you,
Larry says, a magician taught you, so you could teach me. Yeah,
but you're not a magician. I love that whole run
with him.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
A magician.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
By the way, the great line is why did the
magician tell you because I'm a magician? No, no, no,
because he knew I was a magician.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Right, which is just And the magician can tell I'm
a magician and you're not.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
He says, yeah, yeah, So I just love that. And
what Larry leaves.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Cheryl says to Stuart, her cousin Stewart Anton, you guys
are a lot alike.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
And he says, yeah, except he's not a magician. I mean,
he was just spot on this kid. Everything.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
He said.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Right, we'll be.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Right back, stay tuned.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
Okay, we're back.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
And then you and Larry are going into Mel's office
and Larry asks you if you're going to the Halloween
party and if you're wearing a costume, and you say,
of course, and he's not gonna wear a costume, but
of course you're going to wear a costume. And then
before you go into the office, Larry tells Jeff that
last night he was, you know, in the bathroom taking
(14:36):
care of a few things. J Jen, Larry, that's what
I meant, Jeff tills Larry and Jenna, what is it?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Jenna Jamison?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Jenn. At that time, she was the number one porn.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Star, shorn star. She was in your head? She pops out,
and guess who popped in?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Cheryl, Cheryl, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
He's yeah, she was there. I couldn't believe it, you know,
I just boom, she was there. You can't control it.
Pops in? She pops in, She pops in? Well, why
did you pop her out? I tried popping around. She
wouldn't pop out. Was she insisted on staying? Not exactly.
I want to be here with you, Jeff. I couldn't
pop around. I'm out of control that. Besides, my bench
is kind of thin. I don't really have a lot
going on there. Oh your bench? Just what was she
(15:15):
on your team? Now my team? She popped in?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Well?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
He using my wife for I tell you, be flattered. Flattered.
I'm fucking nauseous.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Larry is not happy about this, and I don't blame him.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
No. I teased this in an earlier episode where we
were seeing the house that Larry used to shoot we
used to shoot in. We filmed this scene before I know.
It was really funny and I got right to the point,
but too harsh. Larry said, we have to go into
(15:47):
this more conversational Hu and softer for this kind of scene.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
When he told me that, I was like, oh man,
that that scene was so funny. And then we redid it,
and he always goes you see, you know, and I
course I see, so this one it's more of a
conversation and I'm more of an innocent like I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Well, also you thought he'd be flattered. Yes, what you say,
which is hilarious.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Nuts, that's the least. Oh that was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, yeah, and let Larry says, I'm nauseous, and You're like,
it didn't really happen. It'll never I'll never intentionally use
her again. But you are right, you can't control who
pops in.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Uh well, yes we see that later on.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
You know, yes we too, And Larry's like, next time
she pops in, pick up your pants and get out
of the room. So they walk into Mal's office. You know,
I'm just thinking about it. How I would feel if
somebody told me I popped into there. I guess it
would depend on who it was. How would you feel, moaned?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Well, I mean, don't people are using us all the
time with whether they tell us or don't tell us, right, Yeah,
but how do you feel about right, So at.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Any point, I just can't picture someone using me.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Someone is someone is Well, by the way, I used
to do a joke.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
It never worked, but I thought it was really funny.
No matter what, somewhere someone is masturbating to that show,
seeing the news, doesn't.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Matter what ever, it is somewhere in the world. Yes,
so correct.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Under that, guys. Yeah, I guess I popped in a feture.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
You know, I used to have a website which I
don't even have, but on my website was a contact thing.
This is many many years ago, and I had to
take it down because it was all these men sending
me all these s and m things.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Which is funny for this episode exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
But they would send me things like baking me to screaming.
You know, who knows who's turned on by what, but
they would send me these things baking me.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
We also never know anything we're about to say or
think or do. We are always surprising ourselves an never
know anything about anything. Forget the jerking off part.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
The jerking off is just the extra special cherry on
the cave.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Well, by the way, I want to say, if you
know the other person and there's a seduction and an
attraction when you tell the other person that much more
so women telling men that you thought of them. That
I know. For if someone came up to me and
I was attracted to them, and they told me that
they thought of me, I would have been like, oh,
(18:20):
how about wow?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, an attractive woman, you would have been flattered.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
No, No, any woman I'd be flattered, would it to
be attractive? I'm not a blind man.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I was not flattered that men wanted me to scream,
yell and spank.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I'm talking about people, you know. Yeah, that's online crap.
Someone's sitting in their basement wanting us and m with you,
and their mom's upstairs making eggs salad.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
But if it is someone you know, then the next
time you gather with them, then it is a little
bit a little ick.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Right, Well, no ick, if you feel ick, I imagine
that there's someone that you really dig and they say,
you know, in a non creepy way.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Just I was just gonna say that, Jeff, it can
feel creepy.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It's all how you approach it.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Right.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
If you were a victim to the pop in and
you're you were victimized by your own subconscious and.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
That's all it different. But I would never my character
would never tell Cheryl.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Just saying, but I have no interest in real life
in knowing anything about who or what.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
My husband fantasizes about. I don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Well, by the way, my girlfriend thinks I don't because
she doesn't like it me thinking about anyone but her.
By the way, yes, but now she won't anymore because
I've said it.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
All right, well whatever, it's a fantasy.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
That's what text scrolling is.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
For text rolling.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Text scrolling when.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
You love someone's phone, that's a bad idea.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I don't want to want to talk.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Anytime you look at you look at your partner's emails
or phone, you're getting information you should not have.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
And it's a bad.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Idea, an utter invasion of privacy.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
It shouldn't because if there was trust, then you wouldn't
need to exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yes and no. Because even though I don't do stuff
like that, sexting or what have you, I would not
want anyone bringing it.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
No, because it's privately Google in the government.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Right, Oh yeah, why I don't use Google. I use
Perplexity because it eliminates there's no tracking, like you look
up what's the best way to make porridge, just saying,
but it'll give you all the information and there's the bottom,
all the sources, so you can see.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
What's really what is perplexity?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Perplexity. It's an app, and.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I discuss it after I want to find out people.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well, I remember, I just want to go back in time.
So I'm in New York and uh, a friend of
mine tells me I need to get somewhere. He goes,
have you tried Uber? And I was like, Uber? What's that?
And he goes, don't tell anyone. And I was using
where it was a new thing, And I remember being
(21:03):
on stage at Caroline's in New York talking about Uber.
Nine tenths of the audience had no idea what I
was talking about. So what I'm basically saying is I'm
ahead of my time.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Oh you are an innovator baby, Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
But Perplexity. I recommend it, and I don't think it'll
affect my usage. If people use it.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I hope that we have enough listeners that it makes
a difference.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
No, I don't want it to make a difference. I
want them to enjoy it, but if it scruise me,
I don't want it to make a difference.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
So you and Larry walk into Mel's office and Joanne
played by Rachel Harris, is they're not happy to see
you if she doesn't like you.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
But all done, I've always avoided her. I go sit down,
I say hello, here to see Mel. At this episode,
Larry thought it'd be good if I got the shit
to establish that it's not.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Just him, right, So you go into By the.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Way, I go on a lot of tangent on the.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Show, and I ignore them, and by the way.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
She ignores them. And sometimes we fight because she ignores
them because sometimes I actually think they're interesting. The last
one who knows.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
So you go into the room and there's Mel and
Norm and Rudy and Mel ask Any complaints that Larry
says he's not happy with the toilet paper in the
rehearsal law, which.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
By the way, brilliant. I went to someone's house one time,
and I do this. I used to bring pop tarts
and toilet paper to a party like here, I've brought
something people are always really happy about that pop tarts
are delicious. Who doesn't need toilet paper? I did it
as a joke the last time I did it, and
(22:43):
I didn't check the toilet paper. I bring it and
a relative of this person looks at me and goes,
it's single ply, and it was being dead serious, and
I'm like, what, I don't like single.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Pl but I do.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Do you read I.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Prefer Scott tissue single ply.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I've never met you want to prefer single There.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
You go to save the planet or you like the texture.
Now I just I'm used to it. It's one of
those things. That's what I'm used to, is what I
grew up with. That's what I'm used to.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
By the way, I buy recycled toilet paper, which is
just as soft, but it might be two or three
I know it's at least two ply, if not three ply.
And so I'm upset with you keep.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Going Okay, So apparently he was Ben's books Fuck, Bad
and Beautiful, So you shit a lot. In Florida, Mel
tells Larry that Ben gave him an ultimatum and said
either Larry or me, and Mel picked Larry and Ben
(23:44):
is out.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Ben Stiller is out of the producers.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Mel picked Larry and Norman Rudy do a tag team
on Larry on this You couldn't sit in the front
of the car, you didn't bring a gift to the party.
They go on that you didn't shake hands, you wouldn't
sing the birthday songs.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
It's really funny that Ben would tell them this is.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
The right little detailed the skewer. Well, the skewer was
major because of his eye. And Larry says, you know what,
it was a blessing in disguise. And Mel says, how
about David Schwimmer? Okay, maybe, uh huh, And then you
guys leave and Norm says to him, you're making a
terrible mistake.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
He's mentally challenged that.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Maybe with yeahous, Mel says, there's something about this middle
aged ball guy that is thrilling.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Well, by the way, Mel's undying belief in Larry David
for this role.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Well we find out why.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, because he's great. Yeah, but also a piece of
trivia that I'll give now because I don't know that
I'll remember it. Larry was so good that he was
offered to really do it. Yes, that's how good Larry was. Yes,
in portraying it, because he's perfect to be Max bi
Alstock And no, he was actually offered and you know,
(24:55):
I guess he didn't want to do it. I know
he didn't want to him, not because it wasn't good.
I think he was just the thought of it was overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, also to do for he did a straight play
eight shows a week, and that was brutal. To do
a musical eight shows a week, Oh my god, that
is exhausting.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Do you know they put out feelers for me for hairspreads?
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
And not only did I not want to do I
love the show, but not only did I not want
to do it. Part of it you had to shave
your eyebrows, and I'm sorry, I'll shave my head for
a part. No eyebrows. Sorry, eyebrows have to.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Stay, all right, Well, you have your standards, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
But the idea of me walking on the street during
the day without eyebrows or penciling them in, no, thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
That was missus Burkerwitz, my kindergarten teacher. I remember that
about her.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Her eyebrows were gone and it was thick brown pencil
and it struck I remember, five years old.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
It's a clown. Look, yeah, it's very scary.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
So now Larry takes the car.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
He sees guys in the street holding up signs for
a car wash, Cheryl that has him to wash the car.
Ten and these guys are clearly mentally challenged. What are
you supposed to say mentally challenged? Mentally is that the
at least I believe so it changes all the time,
changes all the time.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
What we did hear that was a mistake? Was we
cast to people who are not mentally challenged?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yes, Judah Friedlander And why do you think it was
a mistake, Jess.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Because that's not right. You don't want someone now, Look,
I'm not saying the elephant man or my left foot.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
You have to hire somebody or else or Dustin Hoffman
and Rainman.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Dustin Hoffman and Rainman. That's a different kind of thing
for this. It should have been all mentally challenged people.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Well, you know what, I think it worked well, Yes
it worked.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
But I'm saying, and it's not that you can't do
this today. I just think and we're usually good, Like
I mentioned two people who were in wheelchairs, we you know,
had people who were really in wheelchairs. And by the way,
when you see the scene encanters later, the people who
are actually mentally challenged do a great job with dialogue.
(27:05):
So I'm just saying that it's improvised, so I forgot
the reasoning why we did it.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But we'll be right back. Stay tuned, and we're back.
So the car wash is a complete fiasco.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
We see it. It's just a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And it's all finished, and Larry's driving and all of
a sudden he runs out of gas and he calls, Shaul.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You let me you lift the car. No guess of
the car. And then my sunblock is missing. My sunblock
is missing, and I have to pee. He has to
pee really bad, so he goes. He goes to a tree,
but then a woman walks out the door, so he stops.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
And then he's knocking on door after door and people
are shutting the doors in his face and just saying
no and no, and it's about five or six of
them and finally, but go ahead, es sorry.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Look, I know we're getting the moon right now. But
I want to say something. This is something I fought
against because when you have to pee bad, you can't
go to a half dozen houses. You got a one
or two and then you're taking your chance in some
bush somewhere. That to me, I know that's not what
Larry would do. I mean he would It's a tough thing.
(28:24):
But I always wanted to get to Moon quicker because
I hate unrealistic shit, even for the purpose of comedy.
If it's that blatantly unrealistic, And what would have been
bad about h having to pee going to one or
two houses and the people's reactions were not that funny,
and then going to one or two houses and then
be it Moon's and all right, let's get to Moon.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I disagree because I think it heightened it and it
didn't bother me at all.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
But then he comes knocks on a door.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Well, by the way, disagree to disagree?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah, Then he knocks on a door and a woman
answers in a burka with the most rgeous hazel eyes
I've ever seen, which are really pronounced because that's all
you see.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Oh my God, may help you.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
My Cob is out of gas and I'm just desperate
to as a bathroom.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Come in, Please come in, be my invited guest.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Come in.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
You're kidding, please come in, Please do come in.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Oh my God, and she's uh, come in, come in.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
That that accent was so beautiful, Boone, Did you base
it on anything, No, it just.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Just popped out.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Being in That just made it up.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, And did the sweetness come for you? Did we
tell you to be sweet or did you Did that
just come out of your character? Was that an adjustment
or no?
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I think he was asking me to be friendly. And
by the way, do you talk about the importance of
just a philosophy of yes? And is the possibly the
most important thing we should all adopt?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, and improv Yes, and it is.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
You really did it, and which made him so happy.
But it was also such a beautiful surprise, and you know,
I believed it completely. See that I believe that she
would invite him in that she's she was trusting. Yeah,
it was just so it was actually joyful and fun to.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Watch and so delighted to have him.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
And then he needs gasoline that my wife left it empty,
and then I love that. But oh, you were married.
That's a disappointment. You know, I thought I had finally
met someone. You thought he was your soulmate that just
knocked on the door. It was so sweet, But the way.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
She said, oh you're married, that is such a disappointment. Yeah,
was just so blatant and beautiful at the same time.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, there was a there was a sweetness to you
that was just very infectious.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
That was the thing that I picked up watching this
was her character's kindness and sweetness because and agreeability. Just
the whole thing was pretty great. And by the way,
may I also say for our listeners, yes, I'm get
excited with Moon. It's not because she's here. If she
wasn't here, I'd be just as excited. I don't stick
(31:07):
my head up anybody's ass. It wouldn't fit number one
and number two. I like being honest. I just said
I didn't like the knocking on the doors. So what
I want to say is Moon was that great.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
She was terrific, Okay, And Larry says, he, well, we're
very superficial people. We like to know what women look like.
So it's going to be tough for you to meet somebody.
And then and then he gets an idea. They see
the light bulb go on us and he says, I
think I got a guy for you. And it's a
literal blind gait as you say yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
And next oh, you go to Cantor's.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
She's driving him.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yeah, you're driving to get gasoline. And then you're he
says you want deli.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, he says, you want to go to lunch, and
she says, yes, that'll be lovely. Do you like Deli? Sure?
I love Deli? Exploring, heighten, exploring, heighten. Look what you're doing?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Car wash?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Guys are there at a table eating and he says,
how did you do today?
Speaker 3 (32:04):
And the shm if they seed his sun block?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Hello? Wow? Remember me? Yeah, the guy with the really
clean car? Yeah? Yeah, blue car.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
You guys did quite a good job on that car.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Thank you very much. No, how'd you do today?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Good?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Very good?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, we did good today. You didn't. How much money
did you make?
Speaker 4 (32:24):
We made one hundred dollars?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
We had ten cars? Wow? Pretty good? Congratulations? Good, good good.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Hey, guys, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Did you happen to see.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Any sunblock on the passenger seat in my car?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I don't know. I never saw any sunblock at all?
Is that right? Don't you get a feeling by the
way in the way that they replied that they kept
the money?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Oh, I don't know. What do you mean they kept
the money?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
In other words, when he asked them, the look on
their faces was very mischievous, like they were keeping a secret.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Well, because it was about the sun block. The secret
was about no.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
No, no, no, no, no, I'm saying when he said how
did you do today? And the last guy says one
hundred dollars. But they were playing it with smirks on
their face and they were trying to hold in laughter,
which Larry didn't notice. And obviously you didn't notice.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Keep going, well I did. I thought it was about
the sun block. No, because we know nothing about the
sun block.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
They did that after that.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
And well, then I didn't notice that.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
And then Larry and Haboo sit with them, and Larry says,
weren't there four of you? And then Judah Friedlander shows
up with the sun block all over.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. At first they
say it was just the three of them, and then
they say, yeah, there was a four.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Well they were lying, yeah, yes, no, no, I.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Know that, but there was a build up to Judah
showing up with it all over his face. I've known
Judah for years. We performed together many many times. I
was so happy that he did show i'lbeit against what
I thought was right.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
And then they said relied and they laugh, left, laugh
and giggle.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
It's just a delightful scene.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
And then Larry is they're passing food and he drops
food on Habous's burka, and Larry says, I'm gonna go
get this cleaned. And then Larry tells a joke. They're
all laughing, and while this is all everybody's hysterical. She
no no, no, no, no no no, but he insists
on it. It's we see the whole interaction.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
But also what was great about this and thoughtful was
he didn't touch her douse. That would have been terrible, right.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Right, keep going, They're all laughing, yucking it up, yucking up,
and Norman Rudy walk in and see all this.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
It's quite the visual. If I'm sitting at a table nearby,
I'm inherently curious on that one, like what's going on there?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
How was doing that scene?
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Moon? Uh? Yeah, I mean I just first of all,
I just mostly remember Larry Humming. He was like a
weird radio station in between the takes.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
So yeah that he whistles, whistles.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Later years he would sing. He went from homing to singing.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Okay, all right, well, and then just you know, you,
as a professional, you just try to stay in character
and just see how the character feel about the circumstance.
And then and if you're you know, I would imagine
that if that's normal to you, then you're just used
to the weird thing.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
It must have been fun to play, really fun, Yeah,
really fun. I could see that. I could see you
having a good time in your eyes. This is the
only place I saw it.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Right, It's freedom. My dream jobs are where you don't
have to wear makeup.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
So oh yeah, well you don't have to wear makeup
or memorized lines exactly by the way.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I would go with Sam's costume if it wasn't most
of the time of suit, although I do wear suits. Yeah,
I did a Steven Soderberg movie called Full Frontal, and
you wore your own clothes and did your own makeup,
no kidding, And that I loved that was like, you know,
how to thank him for that? Was? That was to me.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
The wardrobe, I don't care well, I love my wardrobe.
I mean on curb.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Gardrobe is another story. Yeah, that's actually a story on
its own.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
But the not having to learn lines to me is
the highlight.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Relaxing, so delightful, I mean, holy Molly. And then by
the way, Moon's character, who wouldn't love a friend like that?
Who just she's so lovely no, no, but game game
to do anything. Yes, let's go to a pottery shop,
let's go make Dradle's, let's go buy as many raisins
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as we can. These are things I might like to do.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
It's surprising she doesn't have a guy. She's such a
great gal.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Next we're at Michael's and Larry is telling him about
haboos and Michael is like, you've leveled the playing field.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, that's a great line.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Level the playing No one knows what she looks like.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Everyone is blind now, Larry says, and lack but says,
I do have to go with you to chaperone, which,
of course, because she's Muslim and very strict and has.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
To be done.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
So next we are back at Larry's house and Stewart
is doing card tricks in his bedroom in his Superman costume.
It's Halloween and Larry's trying to guess the trick and
he demands to know, and Stuart.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Is just like, you know what I mean, a magician.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
He's just so matter of fact and non plus you
know you're not a magician, Harry.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
But what's beautiful about this? With the trick and everything?
Larry's getting furious at this kid.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Really, Trick is not a magician, he says to him.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
He tells him, when you come back with the Halloween candy,
I'm taking half of it.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Okay, that's like a real you know, nasty.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
By the way, Anton at no point laughed. Larry's hilarious
and even at that age, so focused.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
So see that he was probably about twelve or something.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember, by the way, sitting with
he and his mom at our wrap party. They were
just delightful, I mean really yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
And then from the background, Cheryl calls Larry. And then
Cheryl is in her costume. She's in a dream of
Genie costume, looking very fetching and hot.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
Look at this happy Halloween.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Oh my god, huh isn't she like correct?
Speaker 4 (38:16):
That's great?
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Oh look at Andy Divine over here?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Use I am sure now you look hot?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Thank you, Susie.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
What are you wearing?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
What is this?
Speaker 1 (38:27):
No outfit?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
No costume? She could wear a burlapped bag and looked
fetching and.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Hot and hot. And then Jeff and I walk in.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Jeff is dressed in a cowboy Andy Devine look, and
I am in full Dominatrix garb And I'll tell you
something funny about that day that I recall.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
And I was wearing these spike heels and I couldn't walk.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
I had to basically be carried and placed down because
they were like these.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Thigh high patent leather boots and spike heels.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I don't remember you if you remember when I saw you,
I couldn't function.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
I was.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
It was quite the outfit.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
But what I remember most about that is the crew
guys were so solicitous to me when I was in
that outfit. It was like they could completely change. They
were like, Susie, can I get you anything? And I
was like one of them. You know, I've been working
with them all these years. I was like one of them.
They were like my brothers. And all of a sudden,
I'm in this black patent leather with a whip.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
I had a whim and by the.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Way, what else did you have? Domin ponytail?
Speaker 1 (39:30):
I had a ponytail Dominatrix outfit and they were all like, Susie,
do you need anything? But they was like how men
are so visually oriented and completely change on a dime
by a visual It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Audio wise change on the dime. All we need to
hear is someone who might be having sex, someone who's
they're going, oh, you know even that, like, are they
having sex? No, it's both men. Just react.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
It's ridiculous. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
It was so noticeable that I'm in a dominatrix outfit
and all these guys that I saw every day are
my ass Oh.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, I never knew this. And by the way, may
I knowing that crew, I'm actually.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Surprised, I recall. I recalled that. It was like, wow,
look at this.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
We'll be right back, stay tuned, Okay.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
We're back.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
And then Jeff kind of very surreptitiously looks at Cheryl's boobs,
you know, because she's wearing something very low cut.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
And then right away Larry notices it and he's like,
all right, that's it, you're changing.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
And he brings out how Boos's burka, which he had,
and it's in the dry cleaning thing, you know, with
the plastic and just back for the drive cleaners.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
You're going as an Islamic fundamentalist.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Then four of us are in the car, and the
fact that it's not realistic to me that Cheryl actually
listened to him.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
But whatever it was for a purpose.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
The four of us are in the car, Larry and
Cheryl in the back, and these kids. What did he say, hey,
oh sama or something like this obnoxious kid throws an
egg at Cheryl in the burkup, which she ducks and
it goes into Larry's face.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Now I want to give a little background on that. Okay,
that night, Larry was really sick. I mean we shot
that at like six o'clock in the morning. If I
read run yes car at Sam Vicente, I remember Jay.
But hold on, though, Larry's up all night and he's
sick as a dog. I mean, he's really sick. He
(41:37):
usually contains that no one knows. We knew he was sick.
He was a cold sweat the whole thing. And the
egg thing didn't work. It missed, it hit the wrong place.
You had to have done and I'm not exaggerating, probably
eight nine times getting the egg thrown at his face
and almost well, and you always had to get one safety.
(42:01):
So once it hit, we had to keep trying for
it to hit. And it wasn't the kid throwing it,
that was just there was no car on the other side. Obviously,
but I forgot who was maybe door, I don't know
who was tossing it into his face from a very
short distance, one after another, and Larry feeling the way
(42:24):
he did. Wow.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
And also, even if you're feeling well, who wants raw
egg on their face?
Speaker 3 (42:28):
It's a salmonila nightmare? Who wants that on you?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Well? By the way, don't forget Rocky put a raw
egg in his drink and he didn't pretty good.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Yeah, I'm not from the raw egg people.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
By the way, can I tell you I would have
bet everything I own that you're not part of the
raw egg people?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Now, not me, my paranoid self. Okay, So the kid
throws the egg on Larry. Next we cut to Michael
and Larry Or at Haboose's front door. The blind date
is happening and it's raining, and Larry has an umbrella
and Haboos answers the door. Her abuliant is that the
word abuliant? And oh you're beautiful to Michael and date
(43:06):
with two handsome men, and she's so excited and what
shall we do?
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Shall we take a walk?
Speaker 1 (43:12):
And you know, she's thinking of things to do, and
Larry says, well, you could walk because I have an umbrella,
and he goes to open the umbrella and he pulls
off her burka somehow at the point of the umbrella,
and you see Larry's face.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
He's just disgusted, but she's.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Also horrified at the exact same time.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Of course, she's hard to great and this really bothered me.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
What would he mean?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
It really bothered me that they were so judgmental of
her looks.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
But if I may, that wasn't necessary.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
What wasn't necessary?
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Well, the blind man obviously can't be but Larry being
so judgmental, although maybe that was showing that even Larry
is shallow in that situation.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
But Moon with the table, what the fuck of these
two guys to be so goddamn judge meant all like
it's Brad Pitt and Paul Newman standing.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Well, by the way, that's the joke. But Moon in
that moment, because I was standing behind Moon watching and
I was standing behind Larry when we did both sides.
But the noises that she makee when she was upset
were hilarious.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
How did you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Moon?
Speaker 4 (44:23):
I mean, you know, if you're playing somebody who's ugly
and wants to be accepted as they are, and it's
you know, it's I think that's always an interesting circumstance.
I mean, you know, beauty.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
Really is in the eye beholder, and it's just a
funny setup that, you know, like you said, I if
somebody's blind, why does it matter, But that.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
He's sent the umbrella hit you on one or two takes.
I remember that because.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
It's very it's almost as though Larry's reaction was almost
as though you were deformed or something. Yeah, that's how
I took it, you know what I mean, Like it
was so extreme that you were just figured and he was,
you know, shocked and appalled by that.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's how I took it too,
that I was undtable, undatable even for a blind man.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
All right, Then we're back at Larry's house and Stewart
is showing Judah Friedlander, who's at Larry's house, the trick,
and Judah figures out the trick. So this mentally impaired
person figured out the trick that Larry couldn't figure and
Judas says, anyone could figure that out.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Well, by the way, here's another thing for Judas performance.
And he did look mentally challenged. But part of it
is is yeah, you know, putting the time and you
can see his tongue pushing out his bottom lip, and
it was just, you know, he was in character, that
was for sure. But yeah, yeah, that was really funny.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
And then then we see Larry in the bathroom. No, no,
where's Arry Chelsea's I don't know. I think he's in
the bathroom. We see Larry in the bathroom fantasizing he's
walking backstage in the theater. Katie Huffman comes out in
some feathery kind of a thing and calls him into
her dressing room pink feathers, and you know, you feel
like the seduction is gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
And then all of a sudden, who pops in.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
In your outfit by the way.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
In my dominatrix outfit? Yes, and Lars, where's the other one?
Where's the other one? I want the other one?
Speaker 1 (46:14):
I was like, you got me, baby, Yeah, you went nuts.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
It was awesome.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
It was so much fun. That was such a fun
scene to do. I'm just like, it was just so
much fun. And that was it.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
That was it, And that was the sad story of
Haboos and Michael that they could have been a lovely couple.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
But you know what, I think he wasn't good enough
for Haboos.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Well, of course he wasn't. Michael's a jerk.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Michael's a superficial asshole.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Shallow blind man who writes it.
Speaker 5 (46:44):
Is interesting though, because it's true that, you know, which
is in the beginning of the podcast, that you guys
got in on the ground floor with the freedom to
be inappropriate, and then in fact it's it's you know,
that's what's your what the show is, it'said tension a right.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Imagine an NBC show where one of the care there's
criticizes rightly, mind you a blind person the letters. To
my knowledge, we don't get letters. Do you know? The
only show that we got some pushback on is when
Larry peas on the Jesus and the.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Bed doesn't pee on the Jesus. No, it bounces, splashes.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Splashes, But we got complaints on that.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
That was the only one that I remember.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Also, yeah, yeah, but most people love it.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
But looking back in this way, it is interesting too.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
It is like analyzing a dream when you when you
think about it, because when you improvise a show and
then you reflect on it as though it was intentional,
because it's your you're reflecting on the improvised moments, and
so it's it's it's just an interesting, weird exercise and
considering now like it makes me think of how composers
(47:51):
must have played.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Music before there were recording devices. There's no way to
capture it.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
Yeah, but you're you know, you play the music in
real time and in a forward linear way, and only
the audience is like, what was that? And then you
can't hear it back as the composer or as the audience.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
But we've advanced to be able to look at the stuff, and.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
That's what this whole exercise of doing this podcast has
been for us.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Moon We're looking back.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
But also just that there's all these just talking about
the psychological parts of it, and the surprise is about
how you arrive at something.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
By the way, originally cast in that role was Bette
Midler and she quit same day. Then Ben Vereen came in.
Then it was Susie What.
Speaker 4 (48:31):
Is that true?
Speaker 3 (48:32):
No, what do you mean that's true?
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Ben Vereen? Ben Vero? But what do I know?
Speaker 4 (48:40):
What people like and what they now?
Speaker 3 (48:42):
It was always made from day one? No one else
was ever cast.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
And why and how did you both get the jobs.
Did you both audition?
Speaker 5 (48:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (48:50):
What for this?
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Neither of us are auditioned. We both knew Larry No,
I the show.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Mine's different because I came up with the idea for
the show, and I approached Larry. And it's always good
to tell a genius your idea, and the show turned
into what it did. And by the way, if I
was left to my own devices, even though they told
me I could make a show like I got the
green light on my own failure, failure, failure from the
(49:16):
get go. I told the genius and now here we.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
Are, and Larry just called me up one day and
offered me the part.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yes, we talked about he'd see that exactly, the roast.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Of generals for years I knew.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Oh yeah, we all knew each other.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
You know, all stand ups back in the old days
in New York catchurizing stars.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
So yeah, yeah, but that's how we got our Neither
one of us had to audition. Yeah, and s Cheryl
had audition, which we discussed last episode of the one
before JB had to audition. Yeah, Ted didn't have to audition.
He's Ted dancing well, by the way, just in life,
whatever he does, you just go oh he's Ted Danson.
(49:56):
We're going to.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
Discuss it coming up to the next episode. We have
another guest start. I'll tell you something. Going through these episodes,
and there's a lot of people who died over all
these years.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
It's it's horrible what.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
You're talking about. I know, Bob Einstein and Anton, hopefully a.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Bunch of others, a bunch of others.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
But anyway, we're going to get to that next episode.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Are you doing. The show's about positivity.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Yes, positive death is not negative?
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Death is reality yet negative, Susie, And everyone lives on
exactly and everyone's gonna die.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
But let's deal with more pleasant things, Susie.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Don't We loved having you with us and I I
once more admired your performer, Twista.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
I think was a tour de force in that.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
And I think, you know, it's an exercise for an
actress to not use their face. You could only use
your voice and your eyes. So that was another you
know trick is so to speak, that was working.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
So what a thing to come up with, because I
have to say, if I'm playing somebody who asked to
wear a mask, what voice do I use? How do
I play this? It's a very difficult like I always say,
I'm a comedian who acts, so have low expectations. But
I'm a decent actor. But I'm a comedian who acts,
(51:14):
and uh, Moon, I would say it is a writer
performer who acts. Am I correct? That's sure?
Speaker 4 (51:20):
Yeah, And I was surprised by how many people really
loved the performance.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
And we thank you for coming, and thank you for
adding positivity and not discussing death.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
It's not I have no problem. I don't find death negative.
I find it's.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Negative, but it doesn't need to be brought up. It's
a Curb your Enthusiasm podcast. Let's not talk about people
who died.
Speaker 4 (51:47):
Didn't but didn't he doesn't he talk about death in
a bunch of episodes.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
By the way, that the number of times, and I'm
not there's no exaggeration. I think three times we have
filmed in the cemetery in the middle of the night,
and I always walk around singing thriller.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
I do thank you for coming, Moon and audience. We
will see you next week, thank.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
You, and I promise you next week there'll be no
death talk. Bye, Susie. Oh they will be oh you
don't and who's going to tune in I Love a good.
Speaker 4 (52:18):
People get comfortable with death.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yeah, well next week is one of our favorite people
who is no longer with us, so we'll get to that.
Oh all right, Bye, by thanks everyone, by thanks moon, bye,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
The History of Curby Enthusiasm is a production.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
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Speaker 1 (52:45):
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