March 13, 2025 • 37 mins
Jeff and Susie discuss “The Korean Bookie” from Season 5.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
All Right, Hi Jeff, Hi Susie.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
This is season five, episode nine, the Korean Bookie. Yes,
some good, some weird in this episode for me, how
about you?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah? The next episode is some good, A lot of weird,
A lot of weird. Yeah. The last episode season this one.
I think there's a lot of really good stuff in there,
a lot of really good things. Most of it, by
the way, is when Bobby Lee is in the scene.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Hilarious. Bobby Lee, who plays Sung.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
He plays this character so subtly and so beautifully, and
there's a consistency in the character's personality, and to me,
his exchanges with Larry beautiful.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, especially the exchanges with Larry when Larry is telling
him who he wants to bet on.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Sorry, they're all gems, every Bobby Lee, Larry or Gems.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We'll get to that. So we start off.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Cheryl comes in telling Larry's they're late for the barbecue.
Hurry up, and Larry wants to go get a jacket
because it's going to be a little chilly on the
beach at night. They're going to a barbecue at the beach,
and Cheryl thinks he's overdressed, and Larry feels like it's
the Three Little pigs. He's the pig that's prepared. He's
the one with the brick house. And Cheryl says to him,
you might want to think about apologizing to Mark the
(01:40):
Doctor about what happened at the Satyr, which we know
that he accused him of stealing his newspapers.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Just a reminder, our.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Show is very freud like in terms of a jacket.
Is it a just a jacket or is it more
than a jacket? And there are many things early on
where there's no connection, but clearly the jacket is one
of the centerpieces of the show. It is, but you
don't know that.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And Larry's still not convinced by the way that Mark
did not steal his newspapers.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
He's still not convinced of that. So then we cut
to uh.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
They're on the beach in front of a fire pit
and they're making s'mores, which is the most Unlarry David
thing to do that I think of.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It is. But by the way, as I've always getting
angry at this or that, I didn't get angry at that,
especially when he starts talking about s'mores and marshmallow roasting.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
I don't know how you can eat this thing? Really?
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Huh? Why don't you just burn everything into a cinder?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Why stop at the marshmallow? Oh, come on, it's a situation.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
We're sitting around a camp for together.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
That's why we're doing this fun.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I don't want to spoil your fun.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
You're having a good time, you know. I'm just saying
it's idiotic what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
It doesn't taste good.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I don't thank you for your opinion there. Do you
like s'mores?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Well? By the way, as a compulvovariat or addict. Sure,
I've enjoyed my shriff s'mores, but guess what, they're not
even in my top fifty now.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I don't like a marshmallow.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's too sweet. You know what the best pop tart is,
And I'll just say it right here if you don't
know s'mores.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
All right, Well, Larry is feeling chilly and he wants
to go to the car and get his jacket.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Let's take a stop here. It can be eighty five
ninety outside, and Larry gets chilla. He is always chili sore, more.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So lately, you know, later on than he used to be.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
But yeah, and he goes to the car to look
for his jacket that he planned ahead and put in there,
and it's gone. Jacket's gone. And then he tells Cheryl
the jacket's not in the car. And then he sees
Marla where the jacket.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Is named after Marla Garland.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yes, your ex wife.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
No, no, he is.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I don't like the X word, but whatever your feral
wife she.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Had, I'll ask her for next time we record. She
had a great name because we're close, so she had
a great name for our relations and I loved it.
But of course I can't wait. But Laura, what's her
last name? Who played Marla?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Lauren Katz?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Lauren Kats, who, by the way, is just as cool
as a human being could be. Big bowl of groovy
Lauren Kats. I hope she's well wherever she is.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So Larry tells Cheryl the jacket is not in the car,
and Cheryl's like, okay, let's not make a big deal
about it, you know, okay, And then right in the
middle of that, Mark makes an announcement that he and
Marla are planning on getting married, save the date. They're
going to get married right here on this beach, and everybody.
Larry goes over and hugs Marla, and everybody's hugging and
(04:44):
Larry hugs Marlin. He's like he's shivering, and he says
to her, where'd you get the jacket? Marla says, I
got it out of one of the cars, and then
he tells her it's his jacket.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
And let's take a step back. If you're chilly and
there are cars on the beach, you don't know whose
they are, and you see it jacket in the car,
and by the way, I buy it. Don't get me wrong.
This is not one that bothers me. What are the
odds of you taking that jacket and putting it on?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Well, I thought about that, Jeff. I thought about that,
and I thought, it's nighttime. There's probably only their cars there,
the people who were at the party. It's not like
you're on the beach during the day and there's a
million cars.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Well, I understand the justification.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, that's my thought.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I'm asking you if you would ever do something like that.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Probably not, It depends on how cold I was.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I get that, and I of course would never. But
I would say, here's what I would do. I'd make
an announcement at the fire pit. I would go, Hey, everybody,
I am free.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Anybody have a jacket?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, I saw a jacket in one of the cars.
You know, it's my jacket. But that would really happened
with Larry.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
But nonetheless, but Larry starts to go into more legit
that he had the foresight that she's cold. He's cold too,
But he had the foresight. He was the smart pig
that had the foresight taking the coat.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
And Chirl was mocking me for wearing the coat. It's freezing.
You know, I'm not gonna take a coat. One of
my nuts.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I had the foresight to bring the coat, you know
what I mean, because I knew it's the beach.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
It gets jilly on the beach.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
You know, bring a jacket, Bring a jacket, right, you know,
So I brought the jacket.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I was smart, you know, to bring the jacket.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Larry, do you want the jacket back? And she gives
him the jacket back, and she's like, wow, by the
way she.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Underplays this though, which is beautiful. She's not playing it big,
she underplays its Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
She can't believe.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
It's like, well, I'm a big fan of people who
are more nuanced in their performance. You know, it's easy
to go fine, Larry, but you know the way she
did it, loved it.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
It was terrific.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And then he notices that there's chocolate, there's a s'more
on the jacket.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Fucking fantastic, and she says.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
She'll wash it out, and he can't stand some moores,
and Cheryl's like, let's not make a big deal if
somebody bore us your jacket.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Move on.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well, by the way, this is a point in the
episode where people know at this point Us' more is
not just usmore correct. You know that there's more coming,
but early on you never know. He may have picked
up a ceramic turtle and has nothing to do with
anything and talk about it but you don't know. But
at this point you really do know, Okay, something.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
And he and Cheryl are back home and you know,
she's like.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
You know how you said that you were the smart
pig right that his house But the thing about the
smart pig that made his house of bricks, he protected
the other little pigs that came over. Okay, he watched
over them and helped them because he was a generous pig.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Yeah, the pig also didn't come home to find some
other fucking pig living in his house while he was
locked up.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Move on, and he's like, how could I sit there
freezing to death? And she's wearing my jag.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I anticipated I should be rewarded, U punished, and you
know they got engaged. It's not about you. When he's like,
I'm the smart pig, I should be protected from the
other pigs. I didn't come home to see another pig
in his home while he was locked out, and Etcetery.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
No, guess that's because she makes a point. That's him.
In response, she makes a point of that pig let
all the other pigs in. And then he did the
lockout analogy, which is great.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And then he is with Sung, who is played by
Bobby Lee and by the way.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
A wonderful stand up, a wonderful gentleman and very very
very funny. And by the way, I assume he's a
wonderful stand up. He will not let me watch him.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Okay, well, well I'm curious, so why.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Because he really if I'm in the room, he'll be
very self conscious and can't focus. And if I'm in the room.
And by the way, I asked him, do you do
that to other comics? He said, no, just you. And
so I've been friends with Bobby for twenty years, maybe
fifteen years, and I've never actually seen him do stand up.
That being said, I hear the laughs he gets, which
(09:05):
are great, and spending time with him, he's hilarious. And
so he's the only comedian I can say who I'm
that close with. And I've never seen their show. Now,
Richard Lewis who you and I different? Oh no, no, hold on,
we've toured together. Are the three of us? And Richard
would stay in whatever car he was, a town car,
(09:27):
whatever it is, he would stay in there to not
watch us. He has never seen me, and I don't
know if he's ever seen you. He has never seen me.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Well, that's because he's very nervous beforehand. And some people
don't like to watch who's on. I like to watch
who's on beforehand because I'd like to know what they said.
So I'm not doing repeating anything I know, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Going to repeat, and I don't care who I follow,
I'll follow anyone. No, that's not the reason, Susie. The
reason is, and this is, it's not he's nervous. He's
got his thing down because we've gone over it. And
the reason why he's got his notes he doesn't want
to steal a joke from us unknowingly, like he doesn't
want us to have any unconsciously because if you remember,
(10:12):
Robin Williams was known for that, but he wasn't, you know,
focusing on being a thief like oh, I'll take that.
It would just go in his head. So what he
would do is like there was a club in San Francisco,
the Holy City Zoo, he'd wait outside until he was
called to go up.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well, Gilbert Gottfried had the best line about Robin, because
nobody used to want to go on in front of
Robin because then you'd see your material the.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Next night on Letterman or some such thing.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And Gilbert would say that he's not a thief, he's
just very absorbent.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
That's what I would say about Richard Lewis and Robin Williams,
because we both know thieves we know people who out
and out steal jokes, even steal personas. But and when
you're a young comedian, I want to add this, it's
normal to cop a persona from one of your favorite
comedians and that doesn't last long, and then you developed
(11:04):
your own voice. But it's very common that someone goes
up like I remember going up, and I think it
was weird. I didn't go up the first time as
like Steve Martin was a hero of mine at that point.
Modern comedian of course, all George Kylin, Richard Pryor. But
I went up on stage stand up wise, in the
persona of Bill Murray, who was never a stand up.
(11:26):
That's the one I say.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I didn't know he did stand up.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
No, he did not, but I sort of picked up
his vibes from all his characters.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
He has a persona whether he does stand up or not.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
But I also, in my first time, forget the jokes
that I did. They were dumb. I did, and it
was almost as I was like auditioning to be in
a play of Stripes. I did a scene from Stripes,
a monologue that he had in Stripes. I did that
when I first went on stage the very first time, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I remember Rosie O'Donnell told me that when she first
went on, she did all Jerry Seinfeldt's jokes.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
But that is completely and utterly normal.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Because well, you don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But when you get on stage that is so overwhelming.
What comes out of your mouth really doesn't matter because
you just want to be up there, at least saying words.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
And speaking of words. We'll be right back. Stay tuned.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Okay, we're back.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
He's telling Song his bookie about the pig being the
good little pig and about her stealing the jacket, and
Song is just like, when.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Did this happen? I need to know it. And he's
gonna bet with Song, and he says the song who
do I love? What do I love?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
He owes Song three hundred dollars because he bet on
the Clippers and Song told him he was nuts to
bet on the Clippers, and Larry says, Tuesday, I like
the Knicks, And then he asked him if he could
write a check. He owes him three hundred bucks. He
doesn't have the money, he says, come in for a second.
As Son comes in the house, I come out with
Sheryl and Oscar and Larry mentions to Oscar that he's fat,
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to which I take umbrage that he's gonna hurt his feelings.
And he says, you called Jeff a fat fuck, and
I said, well, Jeff is a fat fuck. Oscar is
just big boned. And then Song seems to be very
taken with Oscar.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
He's not fat, he's lean, he's just right.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Thank you, he's a gorgeous What do you feed the
dog food?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
You know, dog food? Where do you live around the neighborhood?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Neighbor Oh?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
No, they live about two blocks up, big big gray
house with white columns, white column Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Can't miss it.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And then Larry and You are in the car and
you say, why are you telling her the dog is fat?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Tell me, don't tell her.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
He should know better, And Larry says, he says you
or Larry who says having a dog is like having
a bum in your house? That's you. No, Larry says that.
And you say, when everybody hates me, my dog loves me,
which is true. No one's ever been happier to see
me walk through the door than my dog always.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And by the way, who's a huge dog person, Larry
David Well.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
He loves his Doggies. Yeah, well so do I.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
But he loves he loves Sage, you know when he
saw us like he loves dogs.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yes he does.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
And Oscar was actually named after a dog he had
named Oscar. And then Larry says, stop the car, stop
the car. They see Heineman's Cadillac, and they see the
dent in the back in the rear tail light, that
it was never fixed, and he gave him a check
for fifteen hundred dollars. And Hyeman will not talk to
Larry since his daughter Rachel jumped off the ski chair lift.
(14:38):
Next Heyneman is it izz he's eating a sandwich, and
Larry walks in blown.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Finally, I was driving by the restaurant and I couldn't help.
But notice you having to fix the dent on the car.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Not in't fix the dent.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I ask why, considering it's not your business, I better
use for the money, such as if you must know,
I give you the money to my daughter.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
For something far more important than fixing a car.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
What does he need the money for.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
It's really none of your business.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
It's a little unethical, by the ways, nothing to do
with fix the car.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
There's nothing to do with ethics.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
My money.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
You gave me my money.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I can do with that money what I please.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
All these pickles, all right, man, take it easy, Good day,
mister David.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
And here's what I found interesting. He's kind of doing
the accent, but not completely doing it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Starts with the accent and then it goes out the
window as they.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Discuss, and he says, I gave you the money, and
Heinemann says, that's right, you gave me the money. I
could do whatever I want with the money. My daughter
needed it for something more important. Larry says it's unethical,
and Ben says it's nothing to do with ethics. And
I actually agree with Ben on this. He gave him
the money. He doesn't have to fix the car. He
could do whatever he wants. Larry goes for a pickle.
(15:51):
Ben slaps his hand. Their relationship has completely deteriorated. So
he tells you about this. You say, it's a big.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Bowl of wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And then the phone rings and he says, ask about
it's me. He says, ask her about the NIXT. Now
this was also interesting because now all he would have
to do would look at his phone and see the
next score. So nowadays he would not need to ask
about the next score.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
He would just look on his phone.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh right, right, right right, right, right right right. But
also if I may, that's key to the story. And
even if he had a phone, let's say, in the
next scene or whatever it is, when he's in when
oscars at the vet for eating s'mores, I don't remember
what he ate?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
No oreos oreos.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Right, similar, he couldn't look at his phone and be
just as upset. So it would work now with the phone.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
It would work with the phone. I just know what need.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
By the way, the guy who talks to him is
John Farley, Chris Farley's brother is in that scene. That's
who that is.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
But wait, at the phone rings, it's me. I tell you,
oscar ate three buckses of oreos. He's at the vet. Yeah,
he says, ask her the next tour. Next thing we know,
you guys walk into the vet and you tell him
you're going in the examining room. Larry is waiting outside
on the bench and Chris Farley's brother, John Farley, comes in,
looks like he's got a little cat in this thing,
and Larry asks about the nick game to him, and
(17:10):
he tells him what was a great game. They went
into overtime, they lost by four, and Larry is distressed
by this and he puts his head in his hands.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I remember so clearly filming that day at that place.
I don't know why, Like really, I remember every nuance
about it.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I don't remember that.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I remember filming at the vet when Oscar died, but
that was a two seasons later.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I believe that was season eight.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I think I don't even remember that scene.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Let's keep going and Larry's moaning and his head in
his hands. Larry, Hi, Oscar's going to be okay, he said, dated,
He's gonna be fine.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
We're gonna take him home.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
I love that dog.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Oh, Larry, so sweet. And we all come out in
Cheryl's with with us, and we all come.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Out and Cheryl confronts him and starts comforting him, and Oscarry.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
You're right next to her.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I really say, that's so sweet. They say that's so sweet.
It's one of the only times I've ever said that
to Larry in all of this time. And then their
home and Marla sent a letter and it turns out
it's a check for one hundred and fifty dollars and
it says sorry about the jacket, Go buy a new jacket,
and Larry's impressed with this. This is a gesture that
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she doesn't see very often. And first he was going
to give it. Oh, Cheryl tells him to give it back,
and he goes into this whole thing about you screw
up the books when you give it back, you screw
up the books.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
But by the way, when we filmed that, what we
didn't use was a lot more pushback from Cheryl that
got cut of her saying you got to give it back, and.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
You got to give it back.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And by the way, the books may have been from
that take, you know what I mean, Like it's different takes.
You know, we mix up. We may shoe something a
half a dozen times, and we take the best pieces
out of all of it. And that reaction about the
books was probably in reaction to her really pushing him
to give it back. But I remember distinctly that was
(19:10):
a much harder pushback because I in the show I
actually thought it needed a little more pushback. Eh.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well, then he goes into his whole thing about he
apologizes all the time.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
You know, I'm apologizing all the time, telling people I'm sorry.
I know when I've done something wrong, I'm not afraid
to apologize. Most people, I have to say, And my
mother always used to tell me this. Most people aren't.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Like you, Larry. Most people are not like you. You're special.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You know when he imitates his mother, I love it.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
She may have said that.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
She may have.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I recognize when I do something wrong, and I apologize
all the time.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Is this is his point?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
And Cheryl says it'll be more comfortable at the wedding,
and she's glad that this whole thing has resolved.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
And then she says to him, it's so touching how
you were so upset about Oscar.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And Larry says, well, you'd be in human not to
feel something.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
The poor dog fighting for life. That is as I
love that song.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Whether it's his wife, it doesn't matter who it is.
If he's getting anything nice that he doesn't believe in,
he just goes, yes, why wouldn't I? And it can
be a myriad of subjects, but if he'd.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Be crazy not to yes, I've heard.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Him say that. I've always enjoyed that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
And then Cheryl, you know, she kisses him, and you
know it's going to lead to some daytime sex. So
the Oscar ploy worked very well in Larry's flavor.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
All right.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Next Larry's coming into our house and he hears me
screaming for Oscar.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Oscar's missing.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
He was sedated after coming back from the vet, and
he was sitting in the backyard, and Larry starts to
tell you he saw Oscar.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
They was kind of drooling over him a little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
So he likes my dog.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Well, you know it's not a myth.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
They do eat dogs.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
They eat dogs.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah, some Koreans eat dogs. Well, you know what what,
I gotta go over there.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
And now he's got a flower shop. I gotta pay
off mynd nick loss. I'll loss it up, I'll feel
it out. I'm sure to need your dog. I shouldn't
even brought it up, crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You shouldn't have brought it up, though, made me a litle.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
No, no, don't don't it non't forget.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It all right, forgotten.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
He didn't kidnap and eat your dog.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Okay, He's gonna go explore this and he goes into
the flower shop.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
This song also is not just a bookie. He also
has a flower shop.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And by the way, I love the hat with the mohawk.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Uh, huh.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
And Song is on the phone doing flowers and he's
gonna do the flowers for Mark and Marla's wedding, and
Larry's like, I'm gonna be there, okay. So he's gonna
be doing the flowers, and Larry doesn't have cash, and
he gives him the check.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
He owes him one hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
He gives him the check from Marla for one hundred
and fifty dollars. Now that never pays off for some reason,
I wonder if there was a payoff on that later.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
No, No, there is no there is a payoff later
because she finds out that he didn't use the money
because he signed the back of the check. It's gone and.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Sung, yes, but there's no payoff that he gives it
to Sung he could have.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
No, No, but there is nothing. There is nothing bad
about that, I mean, you know what I mean. It's
just he gave it to him. It was convenient. And
then of course consciously he doesn't have the money to
buy a new jacket at this point. That's the thought process.
That's why when she accuses him of that, it makes
total sense.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, well, I still think that that could happened. Whether
he gave Song the check or not.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I thought, yeah, but this scene it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
So so Larry's like Larry said, they go into this
thing now, which is an exchange that they've had before,
which I like, you know, who I'm liking and songs
I have a feeling and not liking loving the Celtics
and you're gonna win.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I feel the same thing.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Go and st It's a I forget what they call
it when it's equal. So in other words, there's like
a minus three, you know something four bread. So this
spread is a win or lose thing. That's why Larry
is like, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
And then Sung takes a bite into a sandwich and
he's eating very like shit is coming out of his
mouth and he it's delectable.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
It's fresh meat and it's delectable. And Larry says, what
kind of meat?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Because he's trying to, you know, feel him out about Oscar,
and Song's like the best kind.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
And then Larry says Oscar is missing.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
And Song says, good, I love what if this is
such a gents?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Oh too bad. But here's what I want to say
is that's a very difficult performance. To not say what
the meat is and pull off. It's the best, it's great,
and he does and I'm watching it. At no point
I think it's Oscar, but nonetheless.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Well, I mean it's a stretch and no, by.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
The way, is that even a real thing about.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I've heard that, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
But that could also be just a bunch of bullshit.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Could it could be? Yeah, And then they get into
a stare down, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And by the way, great staredown, Great staredown, because Bobby
Lee is part confused and part participate painting, and.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
It was really Bobby Lee doesn't know Song, doesn't know
that Larry thinks he ate the dog.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I know.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
That's why he's rather curious than he's in a stereauff,
which makes it really special.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
We'll be right back, stay tuned, and we're back.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
And then we are on the beach and it's the
wedding and you say that you saw Heinemann's car in
the parking lot, the gold Cadillac, and Larry's wearing a
straw hat, which you telling me looks like he's driving
a rickshaw, which, by the.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Way, those hats are very common now. And back then
you rarely because getting cancer, what have you? Y. You
didn't see him that much then, but now you know,
I would go and die. Have a surf shop near
me called Valve Surf, Valley Surf, and they have those
hats and different companies. It says Valvesurf on them. I
mean a lot of people wear those now, So the
(25:02):
Rigshaw joke would not work into.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Larry was a trendsetter. And he says, I'm married, I
could wear whatever I want. And then you go into
a hole.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Hold on, is that not a brilliant line. I'm married
and I can wear whatever I want.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
So you look around and for you, it's just a
titty fest. There's big bosoms everywhere.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
It's not for me, it's a titty fest. I expressed that.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
It's you express that bosoms everywhere, And Larry remarks that Mark,
who's a cosmetic surgeon, probably invited all his clients, so
that's why there's all these.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Women running around with huge breasts.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And then and then he sees Sung and you ask
what happened with Oscar and you say nothing, and then
you both see then you both see Rachel who Rachel
Heinemann was in the Ski Lift episode the one who
jumped off the.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Chair as bar and she clearly has had a boot job.
I'm sticking straight out.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
All I'm gonna say is wardrobe did a great job
with that.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Well.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I remember that day because I was with her and
she felt like they weren't big enough when we kept
on putting more and more stuff in them.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I remember that we were back.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
We're in some kind of dressing mbor trailer or whatever,
and we kept making it bigger and bigger and bigger.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
So they got big enough.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
It can't be too big, because then it's a joke
on itself.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
No, they were correct, but they were sticking straight out.
And Larry says, I paid for those things. And he
approaches Rachel and he says.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
To her, Oh, hello, hello, how are you. I'm fine?
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
You've undergone quite a transformation since the last time I
saw you.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yes, my father thought it would bring more joy to
my social interactions.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Really, is that what he thought? Yes, let me just
say this. Okay, less is more. I think you went
a little too big on it. This is my opinion.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Well, thank you for your opinion.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
But we thought they would be festive if they were
appropriately sized.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
That festive man, that's that's a festival if I ever
saw one. I don't know what kind of guy you're
going after with those things, but you're not going to
get somebody like me.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I can tell you that.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Oh well, oh god, she thought festive. It was festive
to have a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
And Mark walks by and Larry says, is this your hands?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
You were agree that there's nothing to make a party
more festive than a lot of a large No. No, fake, fake,
that's hilarious. Then, by the way, I look at them
as decorations, like the lamps like. I don't look at
them as like that's hot to me. It's just another
thing that makes the party festive. And if they wear
(27:43):
colorful clothes with their breasts, all the better.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Can you always tell well, you don't know. If you
could always tell me, no, here's what it is.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You you can tell nine out of ten times, and
that tenth one, oh so confusing. And you want to
ask before I was dying nose with my bipolar Yes,
I asked.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
And were you told yes or no?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Well, they're gonna lie either way. They're not gonna go yes,
these are fake, they're gonna go No, they're real. Why
would they tell me they're not. But I'm confused.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
You're not talking about naked with somebody, then you could
tell hold on, you're talking about just somebody that you
see in the kind of.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Fake bosom party am I having in my backyard that
I don't know if you'd hold on hold on that
I have. It's me and a bunch of naked women
with fake breast, No naked.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Have you ever been naked with somebody with fake breasts?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Can I be really serious right now?
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
No, I have never been with a woman with fake breast,
which I find and by the way, that wouldn't stop
me at least, you know, during my single period. But no,
I never have ever. Oh not true one. Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Anyway, Mark walks by and Larry says to him, this
is your handiwork.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
And he says, she's one of my best patience. And
he says, you went a little big. Were you drunk?
And you know natural is what he says, natural?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Natural is a freak show, okay, And Larry says I
paid for them, by the way, I gave your father
a check. And Rachel's like, yeah, you paid for the
bottom half of the left breast like that.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
By the way, I get that exchange with the that
with the plastic surgeon and her and him defending what
they've done and how they're both proud of what's going on.
I just love that.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
And there is such a thing as tightening of the
vagina as well as a matter of fact.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
We did that in The Godfather. This scene did that
in The Godfather.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Your character does it later on.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
It's a big storyline that's right in season eleven. Yes,
vaginal vaginal rejuvenation surger.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
And by the way, we'll get it. But you, you
and Tracy Tracy Allman in that scene. I watched that
scene from about i'd say, six feet away, you know,
and then made sure is by any ham or whatever,
and I couldn't believe what I was saying. With the
two of you.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
It was we had fun.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
It was sublime. It was amazing to watch.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Well, she was a lot of fun to work, right, Oh,
of course, je t Allman and then Larry ask the
guy the Celtics scored. The guy sells them Celtics lost
by three, and he's again with the head in his hand, upset,
and just then Cheryl and I walk over and Cheryl's like,
what's the matter, and the guy who told him the
score says, I just told him the Celtics lost, and
you just see my face in Cheryl's face, and we
(30:30):
get it. We're onto him. He's such a fucking faker.
And then Larry says, I think I'll get my coat.
I'm a little chilly, and he goes to the car,
gets his coat and he comes back and they're doing
the ceremony on the beach and Mark says, I do,
and then Marla is about to say I do, and
she turns and she sees Larry wearing the jacket with
the small stain on it, and she's just like, you've
(30:52):
got to be kidding me, where's the new jacket?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Larry?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I completely believe that? And she got angrier and angrier,
and then at that point the people who knew the
story next to Larry got angry. But these people were
directed to where every person from the person in the
back got angry at Larry. And how the fuck do
they know? It's like I told you, when the sex
(31:16):
offender walks in and you have characters who have no
idea who he is, they've never seen a poster, and
they're angry. I just this is one of the things
that makes me just I don't know, and I fought it,
of course, and what are you gonna do? By the way,
I think our listeners are learning when I fight something,
I don't get my way because everything that I fight about.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
The other days to the show, not the sat or
scene so much because that was contained. But a scene
like this, where you've got a whole shipload of extras,
it's it's.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Very hard to you know, uh, change a direction.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Are you smoking? It's easy. You have the ad go
up and go everybody, don't react and react with curiosity.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I don't mean that.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I mean that there's there's more chaos going on on
set in general, and so you might.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Have, certainly this particular day, a lot of.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Chaos organized and you might have something that you want
to fight for, but there's too much going on for
anybody who listens.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
So here's what I want to say. Okay, in all
sincerity about this Number one, you want to give background
as little as possible to do because I watching this
as I was on the set, completely distracted by their
yelling at them and performances. Yes, from a logic standpoint,
(32:42):
but also WHOA, so I in that situation, because truly,
that's my specialty on their show is large backgrounds. Larry
relies on me, and I said to him, it's just
it's no good. It's no good. It really feels false.
And by the way, I know, we shot a couple
where they didn't and I guess energy wiser for whatever
(33:04):
reason in editing. Yeah, yeah, maybe then editing the director
fought for it. I don't know, because I don't go
to editing stop.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
But I well, i'll get to it when we go.
I'm almost there, so I'll get to that. But he says,
it's my money. I could do what I want. You know,
she said, did you read the memo? And he just
ignores her. And then you and Larry are eating and
you're just carrying on about how delicious it is and
it's bulgoki and a woman passes by and he asked
her about it, and she says the Korean Floris bought it,
and then Larry then assumes that it's Oscar, so he
(33:34):
starts spitting it out and screaming, it's Oscar. You're eating dog,
and everyone starts wretching. Now I remember doing that scene
and wretching for fucking we must have done twenty five takes.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
No well over an hour, and I just looked at
Larry and he agreed, I go, we're done.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I mean, I just did not understand the purpose of it.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Well, there was no purpose. You know, it's hosing down
a scene. That's the term for it, where you just
shoot and shoot and shoot. So there's a million choices
in editing and then you do it. Whereas I learned
from reading about the great directors, and the great directors
all know what they want in their head. They've edited
(34:15):
it and.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
They know where the god.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
But also Hitchcock knew this is what I need and
there's no storyboards and there's no prep.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I just remember that day thinking how many other ways
can I vomit? It was like it was Ahoul do
it over, and.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I think would have been funnier. Look, Larry doesn't like
this type of humor, but I really thought some people,
if not everyone, should be really vomiting, because I think
I think vomiting is really funny. Larry doesn't like that
kind of humor, like it really bothers him, and so
that's why you know, there's no it's just gagging.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Well, I remember gagging for hours.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
But I want to point something out to you. I
don't think your care. I think you should be gagging,
but I think you should be making a move for
Larry and start screaming at him. You've lost your dog.
Your dog is now a meal. And I thought you
spitting it out like everybody else. I didn't buy because
everyone else is shocked and browsed down. But you have
(35:18):
a year from your belly up. You should be exploding
and then going to Larry and screaming at him. While
it would have been a great scene for you because
you would be going in between screaming and gets yes
and going back and forth. And I thought, what a
(35:38):
missed opportunity. And when I saw you in this scene,
forget even that part. I just thought, it's weird that
she's just gagging like everybody else when her heart is broken.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
That and I'll tell you another thing that's weird is
what happens in the next scene, which Larry and Cheryl
get in the car and all of a sudden they
see oscar run by.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Where did oscar come from? If they're at the beach,
you're our house, well.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
By the way, In all sincerity, we don't know how
far we live from the beach. And actually our character's
house is in the palisade, so it's not far.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Okay, so I know it's convenient, but it didn't bother me.
It's too easy.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yes, oscar runs by and Larry is distracted by Oscar,
and he slams into the gold Cadillac and hits the
other tail light. So I guess now his daughter will
be getting a vaginal rejuvenation after her boob job.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
But he puts the note on the windshields, and the windshields.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
He's walking towards it. But I want to say, when
I was watching, I forgot that he did that, and
I thought he would get in the car and drive
away fast because he didn't want to give this fucker
another penny.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah, and actually the first time he put the note
on is because he needed Ben Heineman.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Right this time, there's no relationship whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Right, so I thought he would run away.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, but he's a man of integrity.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Hold on, though you think Larry didn't think about that
when he's writing, You know, I could stay and run
off with Cheryl Or And as it played out in
his head, he decided which was funnier. And I don't
remember us shooting him driving away. I think it was
always this but in Larry, we trust you know so yeah.
Oh that's the end of the episode.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah, we're the end of the episode. Yeah, and we
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
All Right, Hi Jeff, Hi Susie.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
This is season five, episode nine, the Korean Bookie. Yes,
some good, some weird in this episode for me, how
about you?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah? The next episode is some good, A lot of weird,
A lot of weird. Yeah. The last episode season this one.
I think there's a lot of really good stuff in there,
a lot of really good things. Most of it, by
the way, is when Bobby Lee is in the scene.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Hilarious. Bobby Lee, who plays Sung.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
He plays this character so subtly and so beautifully, and
there's a consistency in the character's personality, and to me,
his exchanges with Larry beautiful.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, especially the exchanges with Larry when Larry is telling
him who he wants to bet on.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Sorry, they're all gems, every Bobby Lee, Larry or Gems.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We'll get to that. So we start off.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Cheryl comes in telling Larry's they're late for the barbecue.
Hurry up, and Larry wants to go get a jacket
because it's going to be a little chilly on the
beach at night. They're going to a barbecue at the beach,
and Cheryl thinks he's overdressed, and Larry feels like it's
the Three Little pigs. He's the pig that's prepared. He's
the one with the brick house. And Cheryl says to him,
you might want to think about apologizing to Mark the
(01:40):
Doctor about what happened at the Satyr, which we know
that he accused him of stealing his newspapers.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Just a reminder, our.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Show is very freud like in terms of a jacket.
Is it a just a jacket or is it more
than a jacket? And there are many things early on
where there's no connection, but clearly the jacket is one
of the centerpieces of the show. It is, but you
don't know that.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And Larry's still not convinced by the way that Mark
did not steal his newspapers.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
He's still not convinced of that. So then we cut
to uh.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
They're on the beach in front of a fire pit
and they're making s'mores, which is the most Unlarry David
thing to do that I think of.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It is. But by the way, as I've always getting
angry at this or that, I didn't get angry at that,
especially when he starts talking about s'mores and marshmallow roasting.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
I don't know how you can eat this thing? Really?
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Huh? Why don't you just burn everything into a cinder?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Why stop at the marshmallow? Oh, come on, it's a situation.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
We're sitting around a camp for together.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
That's why we're doing this fun.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I don't want to spoil your fun.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
You're having a good time, you know. I'm just saying
it's idiotic what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
It doesn't taste good.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I don't thank you for your opinion there. Do you
like s'mores?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Well? By the way, as a compulvovariat or addict. Sure,
I've enjoyed my shriff s'mores, but guess what, they're not
even in my top fifty now.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I don't like a marshmallow.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's too sweet. You know what the best pop tart is,
And I'll just say it right here if you don't
know s'mores.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
All right, Well, Larry is feeling chilly and he wants
to go to the car and get his jacket.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Let's take a stop here. It can be eighty five
ninety outside, and Larry gets chilla. He is always chili sore, more.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So lately, you know, later on than he used to be.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
But yeah, and he goes to the car to look
for his jacket that he planned ahead and put in there,
and it's gone. Jacket's gone. And then he tells Cheryl
the jacket's not in the car. And then he sees
Marla where the jacket.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Is named after Marla Garland.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yes, your ex wife.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
No, no, he is.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I don't like the X word, but whatever your feral
wife she.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Had, I'll ask her for next time we record. She
had a great name because we're close, so she had
a great name for our relations and I loved it.
But of course I can't wait. But Laura, what's her
last name? Who played Marla?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Lauren Katz?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Lauren Kats, who, by the way, is just as cool
as a human being could be. Big bowl of groovy
Lauren Kats. I hope she's well wherever she is.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So Larry tells Cheryl the jacket is not in the car,
and Cheryl's like, okay, let's not make a big deal
about it, you know, okay, And then right in the
middle of that, Mark makes an announcement that he and
Marla are planning on getting married, save the date. They're
going to get married right here on this beach, and everybody.
Larry goes over and hugs Marla, and everybody's hugging and
(04:44):
Larry hugs Marlin. He's like he's shivering, and he says
to her, where'd you get the jacket? Marla says, I
got it out of one of the cars, and then
he tells her it's his jacket.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
And let's take a step back. If you're chilly and
there are cars on the beach, you don't know whose
they are, and you see it jacket in the car,
and by the way, I buy it. Don't get me wrong.
This is not one that bothers me. What are the
odds of you taking that jacket and putting it on?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Well, I thought about that, Jeff. I thought about that,
and I thought, it's nighttime. There's probably only their cars there,
the people who were at the party. It's not like
you're on the beach during the day and there's a
million cars.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Well, I understand the justification.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, that's my thought.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I'm asking you if you would ever do something like that.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Probably not, It depends on how cold I was.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I get that, and I of course would never. But
I would say, here's what I would do. I'd make
an announcement at the fire pit. I would go, Hey, everybody,
I am free.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Anybody have a jacket?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, I saw a jacket in one of the cars.
You know, it's my jacket. But that would really happened
with Larry.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
But nonetheless, but Larry starts to go into more legit
that he had the foresight that she's cold. He's cold too,
But he had the foresight. He was the smart pig
that had the foresight taking the coat.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
And Chirl was mocking me for wearing the coat. It's freezing.
You know, I'm not gonna take a coat. One of
my nuts.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I had the foresight to bring the coat, you know
what I mean, because I knew it's the beach.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
It gets jilly on the beach.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
You know, bring a jacket, Bring a jacket, right, you know,
So I brought the jacket.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I was smart, you know, to bring the jacket.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Larry, do you want the jacket back? And she gives
him the jacket back, and she's like, wow, by the
way she.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Underplays this though, which is beautiful. She's not playing it big,
she underplays its Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
She can't believe.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
It's like, well, I'm a big fan of people who
are more nuanced in their performance. You know, it's easy
to go fine, Larry, but you know the way she
did it, loved it.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
It was terrific.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And then he notices that there's chocolate, there's a s'more
on the jacket.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Fucking fantastic, and she says.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
She'll wash it out, and he can't stand some moores,
and Cheryl's like, let's not make a big deal if
somebody bore us your jacket.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Move on.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well, by the way, this is a point in the
episode where people know at this point Us' more is
not just usmore correct. You know that there's more coming,
but early on you never know. He may have picked
up a ceramic turtle and has nothing to do with
anything and talk about it but you don't know. But
at this point you really do know, Okay, something.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
And he and Cheryl are back home and you know,
she's like.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
You know how you said that you were the smart
pig right that his house But the thing about the
smart pig that made his house of bricks, he protected
the other little pigs that came over. Okay, he watched
over them and helped them because he was a generous pig.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Yeah, the pig also didn't come home to find some
other fucking pig living in his house while he was
locked up.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Move on, and he's like, how could I sit there
freezing to death? And she's wearing my jag.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I anticipated I should be rewarded, U punished, and you
know they got engaged. It's not about you. When he's like,
I'm the smart pig, I should be protected from the
other pigs. I didn't come home to see another pig
in his home while he was locked out, and Etcetery.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
No, guess that's because she makes a point. That's him.
In response, she makes a point of that pig let
all the other pigs in. And then he did the
lockout analogy, which is great.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And then he is with Sung, who is played by
Bobby Lee and by the way.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
A wonderful stand up, a wonderful gentleman and very very
very funny. And by the way, I assume he's a
wonderful stand up. He will not let me watch him.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Okay, well, well I'm curious, so why.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Because he really if I'm in the room, he'll be
very self conscious and can't focus. And if I'm in the room.
And by the way, I asked him, do you do
that to other comics? He said, no, just you. And
so I've been friends with Bobby for twenty years, maybe
fifteen years, and I've never actually seen him do stand up.
That being said, I hear the laughs he gets, which
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are great, and spending time with him, he's hilarious. And
so he's the only comedian I can say who I'm
that close with. And I've never seen their show. Now,
Richard Lewis who you and I different? Oh no, no, hold on,
we've toured together. Are the three of us? And Richard
would stay in whatever car he was, a town car,
(09:27):
whatever it is, he would stay in there to not
watch us. He has never seen me, and I don't
know if he's ever seen you. He has never seen me.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Well, that's because he's very nervous beforehand. And some people
don't like to watch who's on. I like to watch
who's on beforehand because I'd like to know what they said.
So I'm not doing repeating anything I know, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Going to repeat, and I don't care who I follow,
I'll follow anyone. No, that's not the reason, Susie. The
reason is, and this is, it's not he's nervous. He's
got his thing down because we've gone over it. And
the reason why he's got his notes he doesn't want
to steal a joke from us unknowingly, like he doesn't
want us to have any unconsciously because if you remember,
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Robin Williams was known for that, but he wasn't, you know,
focusing on being a thief like oh, I'll take that.
It would just go in his head. So what he
would do is like there was a club in San Francisco,
the Holy City Zoo, he'd wait outside until he was
called to go up.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well, Gilbert Gottfried had the best line about Robin, because
nobody used to want to go on in front of
Robin because then you'd see your material the.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Next night on Letterman or some such thing.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And Gilbert would say that he's not a thief, he's
just very absorbent.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
That's what I would say about Richard Lewis and Robin Williams,
because we both know thieves we know people who out
and out steal jokes, even steal personas. But and when
you're a young comedian, I want to add this, it's
normal to cop a persona from one of your favorite
comedians and that doesn't last long, and then you developed
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your own voice. But it's very common that someone goes
up like I remember going up, and I think it
was weird. I didn't go up the first time as
like Steve Martin was a hero of mine at that point.
Modern comedian of course, all George Kylin, Richard Pryor. But
I went up on stage stand up wise, in the
persona of Bill Murray, who was never a stand up.
(11:26):
That's the one I say.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I didn't know he did stand up.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
No, he did not, but I sort of picked up
his vibes from all his characters.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
He has a persona whether he does stand up or not.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
But I also, in my first time, forget the jokes
that I did. They were dumb. I did, and it
was almost as I was like auditioning to be in
a play of Stripes. I did a scene from Stripes,
a monologue that he had in Stripes. I did that
when I first went on stage the very first time, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I remember Rosie O'Donnell told me that when she first
went on, she did all Jerry Seinfeldt's jokes.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
But that is completely and utterly normal.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Because well, you don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But when you get on stage that is so overwhelming.
What comes out of your mouth really doesn't matter because
you just want to be up there, at least saying words.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
And speaking of words. We'll be right back. Stay tuned.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Okay, we're back.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
He's telling Song his bookie about the pig being the
good little pig and about her stealing the jacket, and
Song is just like, when.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Did this happen? I need to know it. And he's
gonna bet with Song, and he says the song who
do I love? What do I love?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
He owes Song three hundred dollars because he bet on
the Clippers and Song told him he was nuts to
bet on the Clippers, and Larry says, Tuesday, I like
the Knicks, And then he asked him if he could
write a check. He owes him three hundred bucks. He
doesn't have the money, he says, come in for a second.
As Son comes in the house, I come out with
Sheryl and Oscar and Larry mentions to Oscar that he's fat,
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to which I take umbrage that he's gonna hurt his feelings.
And he says, you called Jeff a fat fuck, and
I said, well, Jeff is a fat fuck. Oscar is
just big boned. And then Song seems to be very
taken with Oscar.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
He's not fat, he's lean, he's just right.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Thank you, he's a gorgeous What do you feed the
dog food?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
You know, dog food? Where do you live around the neighborhood?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Neighbor Oh?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
No, they live about two blocks up, big big gray
house with white columns, white column Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Can't miss it.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And then Larry and You are in the car and
you say, why are you telling her the dog is fat?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Tell me, don't tell her.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
He should know better, And Larry says, he says you
or Larry who says having a dog is like having
a bum in your house? That's you. No, Larry says that.
And you say, when everybody hates me, my dog loves me,
which is true. No one's ever been happier to see
me walk through the door than my dog always.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And by the way, who's a huge dog person, Larry
David Well.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
He loves his Doggies. Yeah, well so do I.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
But he loves he loves Sage, you know when he
saw us like he loves dogs.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yes he does.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
And Oscar was actually named after a dog he had
named Oscar. And then Larry says, stop the car, stop
the car. They see Heineman's Cadillac, and they see the
dent in the back in the rear tail light, that
it was never fixed, and he gave him a check
for fifteen hundred dollars. And Hyeman will not talk to
Larry since his daughter Rachel jumped off the ski chair lift.
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Next Heyneman is it izz he's eating a sandwich, and
Larry walks in blown.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Finally, I was driving by the restaurant and I couldn't help.
But notice you having to fix the dent on the car.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Not in't fix the dent.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I ask why, considering it's not your business, I better
use for the money, such as if you must know,
I give you the money to my daughter.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
For something far more important than fixing a car.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
What does he need the money for.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
It's really none of your business.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
It's a little unethical, by the ways, nothing to do
with fix the car.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
There's nothing to do with ethics.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
My money.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
You gave me my money.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I can do with that money what I please.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
All these pickles, all right, man, take it easy, Good day,
mister David.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
And here's what I found interesting. He's kind of doing
the accent, but not completely doing it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Starts with the accent and then it goes out the
window as they.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Discuss, and he says, I gave you the money, and
Heinemann says, that's right, you gave me the money. I
could do whatever I want with the money. My daughter
needed it for something more important. Larry says it's unethical,
and Ben says it's nothing to do with ethics. And
I actually agree with Ben on this. He gave him
the money. He doesn't have to fix the car. He
could do whatever he wants. Larry goes for a pickle.
(15:51):
Ben slaps his hand. Their relationship has completely deteriorated. So
he tells you about this. You say, it's a big.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Bowl of wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And then the phone rings and he says, ask about
it's me. He says, ask her about the NIXT. Now
this was also interesting because now all he would have
to do would look at his phone and see the
next score. So nowadays he would not need to ask
about the next score.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
He would just look on his phone.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh right, right, right right, right, right right right. But
also if I may, that's key to the story. And
even if he had a phone, let's say, in the
next scene or whatever it is, when he's in when
oscars at the vet for eating s'mores, I don't remember
what he ate?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
No oreos oreos.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Right, similar, he couldn't look at his phone and be
just as upset. So it would work now with the phone.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
It would work with the phone. I just know what need.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
By the way, the guy who talks to him is
John Farley, Chris Farley's brother is in that scene. That's
who that is.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
But wait, at the phone rings, it's me. I tell you,
oscar ate three buckses of oreos. He's at the vet. Yeah,
he says, ask her the next tour. Next thing we know,
you guys walk into the vet and you tell him
you're going in the examining room. Larry is waiting outside
on the bench and Chris Farley's brother, John Farley, comes in,
looks like he's got a little cat in this thing,
and Larry asks about the nick game to him, and
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he tells him what was a great game. They went
into overtime, they lost by four, and Larry is distressed
by this and he puts his head in his hands.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I remember so clearly filming that day at that place.
I don't know why, Like really, I remember every nuance
about it.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I don't remember that.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I remember filming at the vet when Oscar died, but
that was a two seasons later.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I believe that was season eight.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I think I don't even remember that scene.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Let's keep going and Larry's moaning and his head in
his hands. Larry, Hi, Oscar's going to be okay, he said, dated,
He's gonna be fine.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
We're gonna take him home.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
I love that dog.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Oh, Larry, so sweet. And we all come out in
Cheryl's with with us, and we all come.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Out and Cheryl confronts him and starts comforting him, and Oscarry.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
You're right next to her.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I really say, that's so sweet. They say that's so sweet.
It's one of the only times I've ever said that
to Larry in all of this time. And then their
home and Marla sent a letter and it turns out
it's a check for one hundred and fifty dollars and
it says sorry about the jacket, Go buy a new jacket,
and Larry's impressed with this. This is a gesture that
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she doesn't see very often. And first he was going
to give it. Oh, Cheryl tells him to give it back,
and he goes into this whole thing about you screw
up the books when you give it back, you screw
up the books.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
But by the way, when we filmed that, what we
didn't use was a lot more pushback from Cheryl that
got cut of her saying you got to give it back, and.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
You got to give it back.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And by the way, the books may have been from
that take, you know what I mean, Like it's different takes.
You know, we mix up. We may shoe something a
half a dozen times, and we take the best pieces
out of all of it. And that reaction about the
books was probably in reaction to her really pushing him
to give it back. But I remember distinctly that was
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a much harder pushback because I in the show I
actually thought it needed a little more pushback. Eh.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well, then he goes into his whole thing about he
apologizes all the time.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
You know, I'm apologizing all the time, telling people I'm sorry.
I know when I've done something wrong, I'm not afraid
to apologize. Most people, I have to say, And my
mother always used to tell me this. Most people aren't.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Like you, Larry. Most people are not like you. You're special.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You know when he imitates his mother, I love it.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
She may have said that.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
She may have.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I recognize when I do something wrong, and I apologize
all the time.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Is this is his point?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
And Cheryl says it'll be more comfortable at the wedding,
and she's glad that this whole thing has resolved.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
And then she says to him, it's so touching how
you were so upset about Oscar.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And Larry says, well, you'd be in human not to
feel something.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
The poor dog fighting for life. That is as I
love that song.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Whether it's his wife, it doesn't matter who it is.
If he's getting anything nice that he doesn't believe in,
he just goes, yes, why wouldn't I? And it can
be a myriad of subjects, but if he'd.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Be crazy not to yes, I've heard.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Him say that. I've always enjoyed that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
And then Cheryl, you know, she kisses him, and you
know it's going to lead to some daytime sex. So
the Oscar ploy worked very well in Larry's flavor.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
All right.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Next Larry's coming into our house and he hears me
screaming for Oscar.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Oscar's missing.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
He was sedated after coming back from the vet, and
he was sitting in the backyard, and Larry starts to
tell you he saw Oscar.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
They was kind of drooling over him a little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
So he likes my dog.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Well, you know it's not a myth.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
They do eat dogs.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
They eat dogs.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah, some Koreans eat dogs. Well, you know what what,
I gotta go over there.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
And now he's got a flower shop. I gotta pay
off mynd nick loss. I'll loss it up, I'll feel
it out. I'm sure to need your dog. I shouldn't
even brought it up, crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You shouldn't have brought it up, though, made me a litle.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
No, no, don't don't it non't forget.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It all right, forgotten.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
He didn't kidnap and eat your dog.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Okay, He's gonna go explore this and he goes into
the flower shop.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
This song also is not just a bookie. He also
has a flower shop.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And by the way, I love the hat with the mohawk.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Uh, huh.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
And Song is on the phone doing flowers and he's
gonna do the flowers for Mark and Marla's wedding, and
Larry's like, I'm gonna be there, okay. So he's gonna
be doing the flowers, and Larry doesn't have cash, and
he gives him the check.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
He owes him one hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
He gives him the check from Marla for one hundred
and fifty dollars. Now that never pays off for some reason,
I wonder if there was a payoff on that later.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
No, No, there is no there is a payoff later
because she finds out that he didn't use the money
because he signed the back of the check. It's gone and.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Sung, yes, but there's no payoff that he gives it
to Sung he could have.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
No, No, but there is nothing. There is nothing bad
about that, I mean, you know what I mean. It's
just he gave it to him. It was convenient. And
then of course consciously he doesn't have the money to
buy a new jacket at this point. That's the thought process.
That's why when she accuses him of that, it makes
total sense.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, well, I still think that that could happened. Whether
he gave Song the check or not.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I thought, yeah, but this scene it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
So so Larry's like Larry said, they go into this
thing now, which is an exchange that they've had before,
which I like, you know, who I'm liking and songs
I have a feeling and not liking loving the Celtics
and you're gonna win.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I feel the same thing.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Go and st It's a I forget what they call
it when it's equal. So in other words, there's like
a minus three, you know something four bread. So this
spread is a win or lose thing. That's why Larry
is like, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
And then Sung takes a bite into a sandwich and
he's eating very like shit is coming out of his
mouth and he it's delectable.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
It's fresh meat and it's delectable. And Larry says, what
kind of meat?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Because he's trying to, you know, feel him out about Oscar,
and Song's like the best kind.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
And then Larry says Oscar is missing.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
And Song says, good, I love what if this is
such a gents?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Oh too bad. But here's what I want to say
is that's a very difficult performance. To not say what
the meat is and pull off. It's the best, it's great,
and he does and I'm watching it. At no point
I think it's Oscar, but nonetheless.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Well, I mean it's a stretch and no, by.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
The way, is that even a real thing about.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I've heard that, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
But that could also be just a bunch of bullshit.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Could it could be? Yeah, And then they get into
a stare down, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And by the way, great staredown, Great staredown, because Bobby
Lee is part confused and part participate painting, and.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
It was really Bobby Lee doesn't know Song, doesn't know
that Larry thinks he ate the dog.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I know.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
That's why he's rather curious than he's in a stereauff,
which makes it really special.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
We'll be right back, stay tuned, and we're back.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
And then we are on the beach and it's the
wedding and you say that you saw Heinemann's car in
the parking lot, the gold Cadillac, and Larry's wearing a
straw hat, which you telling me looks like he's driving
a rickshaw, which, by the.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Way, those hats are very common now. And back then
you rarely because getting cancer, what have you? Y. You
didn't see him that much then, but now you know,
I would go and die. Have a surf shop near
me called Valve Surf, Valley Surf, and they have those
hats and different companies. It says Valvesurf on them. I
mean a lot of people wear those now, So the
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Rigshaw joke would not work into.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Larry was a trendsetter. And he says, I'm married, I
could wear whatever I want. And then you go into
a hole.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Hold on, is that not a brilliant line. I'm married
and I can wear whatever I want.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
So you look around and for you, it's just a
titty fest. There's big bosoms everywhere.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
It's not for me, it's a titty fest. I expressed that.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
It's you express that bosoms everywhere, And Larry remarks that Mark,
who's a cosmetic surgeon, probably invited all his clients, so
that's why there's all these.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Women running around with huge breasts.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And then and then he sees Sung and you ask
what happened with Oscar and you say nothing, and then
you both see then you both see Rachel who Rachel
Heinemann was in the Ski Lift episode the one who
jumped off the.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Chair as bar and she clearly has had a boot job.
I'm sticking straight out.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
All I'm gonna say is wardrobe did a great job
with that.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Well.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I remember that day because I was with her and
she felt like they weren't big enough when we kept
on putting more and more stuff in them.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I remember that we were back.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
We're in some kind of dressing mbor trailer or whatever,
and we kept making it bigger and bigger and bigger.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
So they got big enough.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
It can't be too big, because then it's a joke
on itself.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
No, they were correct, but they were sticking straight out.
And Larry says, I paid for those things. And he
approaches Rachel and he says.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
To her, Oh, hello, hello, how are you. I'm fine?
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
You've undergone quite a transformation since the last time I
saw you.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yes, my father thought it would bring more joy to
my social interactions.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Really, is that what he thought? Yes, let me just
say this. Okay, less is more. I think you went
a little too big on it. This is my opinion.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Well, thank you for your opinion.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
But we thought they would be festive if they were
appropriately sized.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
That festive man, that's that's a festival if I ever
saw one. I don't know what kind of guy you're
going after with those things, but you're not going to
get somebody like me.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I can tell you that.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Oh well, oh god, she thought festive. It was festive
to have a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
And Mark walks by and Larry says, is this your hands?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
You were agree that there's nothing to make a party
more festive than a lot of a large No. No, fake, fake,
that's hilarious. Then, by the way, I look at them
as decorations, like the lamps like. I don't look at
them as like that's hot to me. It's just another
thing that makes the party festive. And if they wear
(27:43):
colorful clothes with their breasts, all the better.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Can you always tell well, you don't know. If you
could always tell me, no, here's what it is.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You you can tell nine out of ten times, and
that tenth one, oh so confusing. And you want to
ask before I was dying nose with my bipolar Yes,
I asked.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
And were you told yes or no?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Well, they're gonna lie either way. They're not gonna go yes,
these are fake, they're gonna go No, they're real. Why
would they tell me they're not. But I'm confused.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
You're not talking about naked with somebody, then you could
tell hold on, you're talking about just somebody that you
see in the kind of.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Fake bosom party am I having in my backyard that
I don't know if you'd hold on hold on that
I have. It's me and a bunch of naked women
with fake breast, No naked.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Have you ever been naked with somebody with fake breasts?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Can I be really serious right now?
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
No, I have never been with a woman with fake breast,
which I find and by the way, that wouldn't stop
me at least, you know, during my single period. But no,
I never have ever. Oh not true one. Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Anyway, Mark walks by and Larry says to him, this
is your handiwork.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
And he says, she's one of my best patience. And
he says, you went a little big. Were you drunk?
And you know natural is what he says, natural?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Natural is a freak show, okay, And Larry says I
paid for them, by the way, I gave your father
a check. And Rachel's like, yeah, you paid for the
bottom half of the left breast like that.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
By the way, I get that exchange with the that
with the plastic surgeon and her and him defending what
they've done and how they're both proud of what's going on.
I just love that.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
And there is such a thing as tightening of the
vagina as well as a matter of fact.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
We did that in The Godfather. This scene did that
in The Godfather.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Your character does it later on.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
It's a big storyline that's right in season eleven. Yes,
vaginal vaginal rejuvenation surger.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
And by the way, we'll get it. But you, you
and Tracy Tracy Allman in that scene. I watched that
scene from about i'd say, six feet away, you know,
and then made sure is by any ham or whatever,
and I couldn't believe what I was saying. With the
two of you.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
It was we had fun.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
It was sublime. It was amazing to watch.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Well, she was a lot of fun to work, right, Oh,
of course, je t Allman and then Larry ask the
guy the Celtics scored. The guy sells them Celtics lost
by three, and he's again with the head in his hand, upset,
and just then Cheryl and I walk over and Cheryl's like,
what's the matter, and the guy who told him the
score says, I just told him the Celtics lost, and
you just see my face in Cheryl's face, and we
(30:30):
get it. We're onto him. He's such a fucking faker.
And then Larry says, I think I'll get my coat.
I'm a little chilly, and he goes to the car,
gets his coat and he comes back and they're doing
the ceremony on the beach and Mark says, I do,
and then Marla is about to say I do, and
she turns and she sees Larry wearing the jacket with
the small stain on it, and she's just like, you've
(30:52):
got to be kidding me, where's the new jacket?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Larry?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I completely believe that? And she got angrier and angrier,
and then at that point the people who knew the
story next to Larry got angry. But these people were
directed to where every person from the person in the
back got angry at Larry. And how the fuck do
they know? It's like I told you, when the sex
(31:16):
offender walks in and you have characters who have no
idea who he is, they've never seen a poster, and
they're angry. I just this is one of the things
that makes me just I don't know, and I fought it,
of course, and what are you gonna do? By the way,
I think our listeners are learning when I fight something,
I don't get my way because everything that I fight about.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
The other days to the show, not the sat or
scene so much because that was contained. But a scene
like this, where you've got a whole shipload of extras,
it's it's.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Very hard to you know, uh, change a direction.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Are you smoking? It's easy. You have the ad go
up and go everybody, don't react and react with curiosity.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I don't mean that.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I mean that there's there's more chaos going on on
set in general, and so you might.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Have, certainly this particular day, a lot of.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Chaos organized and you might have something that you want
to fight for, but there's too much going on for
anybody who listens.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
So here's what I want to say. Okay, in all
sincerity about this Number one, you want to give background
as little as possible to do because I watching this
as I was on the set, completely distracted by their
yelling at them and performances. Yes, from a logic standpoint,
(32:42):
but also WHOA, so I in that situation, because truly,
that's my specialty on their show is large backgrounds. Larry
relies on me, and I said to him, it's just
it's no good. It's no good. It really feels false.
And by the way, I know, we shot a couple
where they didn't and I guess energy wiser for whatever
(33:04):
reason in editing. Yeah, yeah, maybe then editing the director
fought for it. I don't know, because I don't go
to editing stop.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
But I well, i'll get to it when we go.
I'm almost there, so I'll get to that. But he says,
it's my money. I could do what I want. You know,
she said, did you read the memo? And he just
ignores her. And then you and Larry are eating and
you're just carrying on about how delicious it is and
it's bulgoki and a woman passes by and he asked
her about it, and she says the Korean Floris bought it,
and then Larry then assumes that it's Oscar, so he
(33:34):
starts spitting it out and screaming, it's Oscar. You're eating dog,
and everyone starts wretching. Now I remember doing that scene
and wretching for fucking we must have done twenty five takes.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
No well over an hour, and I just looked at
Larry and he agreed, I go, we're done.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I mean, I just did not understand the purpose of it.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Well, there was no purpose. You know, it's hosing down
a scene. That's the term for it, where you just
shoot and shoot and shoot. So there's a million choices
in editing and then you do it. Whereas I learned
from reading about the great directors, and the great directors
all know what they want in their head. They've edited
(34:15):
it and.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
They know where the god.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
But also Hitchcock knew this is what I need and
there's no storyboards and there's no prep.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I just remember that day thinking how many other ways
can I vomit? It was like it was Ahoul do
it over, and.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I think would have been funnier. Look, Larry doesn't like
this type of humor, but I really thought some people,
if not everyone, should be really vomiting, because I think
I think vomiting is really funny. Larry doesn't like that
kind of humor, like it really bothers him, and so
that's why you know, there's no it's just gagging.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Well, I remember gagging for hours.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
But I want to point something out to you. I
don't think your care. I think you should be gagging,
but I think you should be making a move for
Larry and start screaming at him. You've lost your dog.
Your dog is now a meal. And I thought you
spitting it out like everybody else. I didn't buy because
everyone else is shocked and browsed down. But you have
(35:18):
a year from your belly up. You should be exploding
and then going to Larry and screaming at him. While
it would have been a great scene for you because
you would be going in between screaming and gets yes
and going back and forth. And I thought, what a
(35:38):
missed opportunity. And when I saw you in this scene,
forget even that part. I just thought, it's weird that
she's just gagging like everybody else when her heart is broken.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
That and I'll tell you another thing that's weird is
what happens in the next scene, which Larry and Cheryl
get in the car and all of a sudden they
see oscar run by.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Where did oscar come from? If they're at the beach,
you're our house, well.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
By the way, In all sincerity, we don't know how
far we live from the beach. And actually our character's
house is in the palisade, so it's not far.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Okay, so I know it's convenient, but it didn't bother me.
It's too easy.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yes, oscar runs by and Larry is distracted by Oscar,
and he slams into the gold Cadillac and hits the
other tail light. So I guess now his daughter will
be getting a vaginal rejuvenation after her boob job.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
But he puts the note on the windshields, and the windshields.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
He's walking towards it. But I want to say, when
I was watching, I forgot that he did that, and
I thought he would get in the car and drive
away fast because he didn't want to give this fucker
another penny.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah, and actually the first time he put the note
on is because he needed Ben Heineman.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Right this time, there's no relationship whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Right, so I thought he would run away.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, but he's a man of integrity.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Hold on, though you think Larry didn't think about that
when he's writing, You know, I could stay and run
off with Cheryl Or And as it played out in
his head, he decided which was funnier. And I don't
remember us shooting him driving away. I think it was
always this but in Larry, we trust you know so yeah.
Oh that's the end of the episode.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah, we're the end of the episode. Yeah, and we
will see you next time for the end.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
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