August 19, 2024 • 48 mins
Talk about a nightmare episode! Dozing off is dangerous when the "Dream Sorcerer" is coming for you! Dorian Gregory who we LOVED as Inspector Darryl joins the HOH team to recap episode 5.Shannen has lots of questions for our awesome co-star while Holly questions the order of these episodes!Meanwhile Leo is still in the attic, and Drew offers details on his hot tub disaster!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Episode five Here on h O H bry b K.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Go for dream Sorcerer.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Dream Sorcerer written by Constance Burge.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Nightmares are taken to a whole new level when a
mad scientist murders women and their slumber. But when a
sleepy serial killer comes for Prue.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Can I direct you for one second and just ask
you to read it?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I was trying to do it like the guy in
the show.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
No, just read it normal?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
No no no, I was like, let me be the
dream Sorcerer.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Guy chose its.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Why don't you give it a go?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
No, no, this is you know, this is your.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Come on, BK, you got this. Just say it normal?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay. Dream Sorcerer nightmares are taken to a whole new
level when a mad scientist murders women in their slumber.
But when the sleepy serial killer comes for Prue, she
uses her powers to slay the mirror mortal in his
own dream. Meanwhile, popular Phoebe cast a love spell that
backfires big time, causing the lonely sisters to regret conjuring
(01:13):
a love connection.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Okay, that was better, but I'm still gonna ask you
to do it one more time.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I don't want to do it anymore.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
You have to me.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You've made me self conscious about it, like my first
choice terrupting me on the second choice.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I didn't say anything.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Think of this as an acting exercise. I think I'm reading,
I know, but how you read is sometimes acting. Like,
just read it then, everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Hush, Okay, okay, okay, dream Sorcerer.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Don't lower your voice like that, like the minute you start.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
To like my sleepy in bed dream sorcerer voice.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Just be dream sorcerer. Just say it normal.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's not as sexy.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I'm now going perfect.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Dream Sorcerer's not sexy either.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
But when you say dream yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
That's not that's.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
You can do it in a British accent.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Do that?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Oh no, I can't you your dentals, your teeth up?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Rex Buckland? Ever say Rex Buckland, Rex Buckland. See that's
that'd be a good dream Sorcerer one or do we
need it again?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
This is content, baby, you're crushing. I'm loving this.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Take three.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
This is the gold. This is the gold that we mine.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Do I look sweaty?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Do you look?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
What?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Do you want to touch up?
Speaker 6 (02:40):
God?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah? Dreams dream Sorcerer nightmares are taken to a whole
new level when a mad scientist murders women in their slumber,
but with a sleepy serial killer comes for Prue, she
(03:02):
uses her powers to slay the mirror mortal in his
own dream.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
Meanwhile, Peep Peeper, the one named mess Up.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
He's still mad about John Chow.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
A week later, mad, oh my god, where are you?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Okay, dream Sorcerer drew.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And only for a second. Just let Brian get through this. Thanks,
you're welcome go.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Dream Treasure nightmares are taken to a whole new level
when a man scientist murders women in their slumber, but
when the sleepy serial killer comes from Prue, she uses
her powers to slay the mere mortal in his own dream. Meanwhile,
Piper and Phoebe castle love spell that backfires big time.
I'm causing the lonely sisters to regret conjuring a love connection. Okay, better,
(04:07):
it's it's doable. It's it's playable.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
That one's playable. I'll work with you later on all this.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
You know interacting, So.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Dreams, I'd love to do one in the dreamy sorcerer voice.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Can you do that? Just just give me like one
sentence so I can hear what that sounds like?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Meanwhile, by Bir and Phoebe cast a love spell that
backfires big time, causing the lonely system.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Moving on and moving on.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Okay, Yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It's like when you it's like when you go a
mad scientist murders women in their slumber and the like,
why not just read it like when a mad scientist
murders women in their slumber because nobody says slumber.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
All right, It's it's like watching you know, when you
say murder.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
That's not interesting. But I love you. You're great. You
know you're adding a whole other dimension.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It's murder has four syllables.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, and I never thought of it like that. So
thank you for educating me. And there I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
There's you have a great voice.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I feel like the untapped potential is you know, there's
a there's an anime out there just dying for you
to say dreams.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Okay, So episode weekend, we are at Quake at Piper's
restaurant that she runs that she owns like you seem to,
I don't seem to just be dumped in your lap.
And now it's all yours, right, apparently.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It starts with these really we come in real hot
with like some of the worst pickup lines in the
history of the game. These are just firing lines.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Those definitely came from bread Kurring.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Has has it ever worked on?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
What lines?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Do?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
We start?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Like?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah with like did you think something baby something like
that baby bomb you did?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Was that not after this ball was cast?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
No, it's literally the opening, like right away opening. It
just starts with bad pickup lines.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
But Constance wrote this, and Constance doesn't do that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They came from brad rid
on it. He did a Polish for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Okay, So we're in Quake and a handsome stranger in
a wheelchair named Whittaker gets rejected apparently by me and
a waitress named Sky Russell, and then it cuts to
like being in Sky's apartment later that night, and Whittaker
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actually visits Sky in a creepy dream and the next
morning she has found dead, like the dream is. I
thought the dream was actually really cool because he sort
of you know, romances her in a way and then
pushes her off this really tall building and you see her,
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you know, falling. What appears to be hundreds of stories
and you're like, well, yeah, but it's a dream, so
what does this really matter? But then she doesn't wake
up and her body, like all of her bones are crushed,
as if she had been thrown off of a incredibly
high building.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Right he speaking, somebody is paying right now. You just
need a slate right now. I think we have we
did you want to the episode? I think we've skipped
a very important part. For Yes, Prue refuses the chardonnay
from the wheelchair bound and.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Suitor I said, prew rejects him.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
No, but you reject him because you're seeing something someone
who's apparently now full fledged. Maybe I'll go to the
SPA with him.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
The f BF name Andy Trudeau.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
You know. I like to skip over that because again,
like it's too fast forward. Like the last episode, they
saw each other at Prue's surprise party and like kind
of waved like.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
He's just hanging out.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
This relationship really develops off camera.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Well's interesting though in this opening bit is like the
girls are also complaining about uh being single.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yes, yeah, we're getting there. Do we should we have
Dorian come in now?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
It's always a good time for Dorian.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
There he is.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
I Hello, Brian Holly, what's happening?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
What's happening?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Man, good to see it.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
We should have had Dorian do the synopsis because he's
the full fledged voiceover actor.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, I just I can't even.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
I have to take a moment because every time my
heart starts to race when I see you guys, I
love you, and Shannon is just so awesome to see
you and I just there it is. That's it, that's it.
So my moment is gone, there it is.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I know we've missed you. We need another Paris trip
or something, right.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, so this is gonna be fun, Dorian, because I
had a lot of questions about you and Andy right right,
you know, watching it back, because I never watched it before.
So actually watching it, I'm like, ew, like Andy's kind
(09:58):
of a stalker and like their relationship doesn't really work.
What I did love watching it now is like yours
in Tw's chemistry on camera was really good, Like you
guys actually had something that worked, as you know, two
detectives who are partners that hang out and that actually
(10:21):
had a connection, whereas TW and I there was there
was no connection, just because they didn't build the relationship
at all.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
You know, I.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
Go back to a note that I think I talked
about previously where I made sure to try to be
a little light and try to which is part of
what a connection is is the familiarity. And you know
it was there were times where I don't know if
there was that same I'm trying to trying to find
(10:53):
the words we were on the same page of that
we're partners and there is a there's a humanity about that.
There's a human being behind that versus what's on the page.
And I didn't feel that as much as I would
have liked to. But Aaron, in that first note that
was given to me, as far as you know, this
(11:17):
goes beyond the job, your two individuals and your two
human beings and your friends, and so I you know,
it was it was an interesting navigation as far as
trying to have that lightness in the relationship as well
as being immersed in what this was in this world
of things that we could not understand, could not explain,
(11:39):
did not expect.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
But there's still two human beings in there.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
And in times of crisis and when you're faced in that,
there's going to be that element in there as far
as how you balance that, and so you know, I
don't have a good answer for that. He was kind
of a There was a lot of it was very straightforward,
and I didn't see enough levels and in that dynamic
that I would have liked.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I understand that. I will say though, that I think
you brought a lot of different levels into it because
you did bring the lightness, you did bring the like, Hey,
but I've known you forever, like I know when you're
an asshole, I know when you're you know, taking things
too far, like I know when you're not paying attention
to your job and you're paying too much attention to
(12:23):
the girl. Like there was enough of that and to
where I mean, to be brutally honest, like when we
were filming and you guys had scenes together, I was
always like, God, is this like working Like it just
doesn't seem like they work together. And then watching it,
I was like, holy crap, that relationship really worked, Like
(12:45):
it was really good on camera. So yeah, kudos to you,
because I think you did a great job.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
I thank you for saying that. I think it worked.
Speaker 8 (12:53):
In totality, this relationship was this this this synergy of
what you guys were navigating through, and Brian and Drew
and everybody as they as we progressed on in their
contribution to this mainline story, and that helped because that
scene was never just about two people. It was about
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what was happening in totality, and you guys really made
that work and gave me something to feed off of constantly,
whether you were in the scene or not, because if
you were there, if you weren't there, the scene was
still about you, because that scene was what you guys
were navigating through, and we were working in partnership to
try to find some type of elevated relationship to resolve
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this mysterious thing that we were all adapting to.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Very very intelligently said by Rank, thank.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
You appreciate that. I mean, I.
Speaker 8 (13:53):
Have to state this, I rewatched I don't ever watch
my work and watching you guys again, and the very
specific things that each one of you brought as far
as who you are at the core of character and
I have I can't say enough about how I feel
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about Holly and how I feel about you and your
specificity and your commitment to truth and early on we're
talking about first season, fifth episode, And when I was watching,
you know, the scenes and there's little subtleties that you
are connected with, but when you watch closely from an
artistic standpoint, as far as the truth you bought brought
(14:37):
when this guy came up and you were the how
you felt and your whole navigation and connectedness and the
nuances with your sisters and how you related to them
and how you guys were still trying to figure that out,
but you saw history there. It felt like you guys
had true history, and it felt like there's so the
(14:57):
such close relationship and you guys were so specific and
separate in your identity, and watching the craft of that,
I so enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Wow, well we thank you, Thank you a lot. I
actually wasn't going in with very high expectations because, like
Drew had mentioned that he didn't really like this episode,
now he likes it, and I watched it and I
was like, I really liked it. I thought that there
was really sort of interesting things happening in it, and
(15:34):
I think everything with the sisters. Anyway, we have to
do the recap, but I did like this episode quite
a bit.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
It's not my favorite, just obviously because I had to
do the love spell stuff, which is obviously not my
favorite if you.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Look like past that, the overall I think was pretty good.
I mean, even the special effects of him going into
dreams and all of that, it wasn't as bad as
as it could have been. I think that you know,
they had been progressing and learning, and you know, we
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were out of you know, eyes glowing, which was really good.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
It helps.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I think probably part of it also is you're just
coming off of dead Man dating and having still not
over it deep connection and then to kind of then
the next episode be casting love spells and putting out
like what you have.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
It depends right, like of when these were actually shot.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, but the way it was aired, it doesn't play
necessarily as authentic as it would if it was aired
probably in the way you guys shot it.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yeah, like this one should have been before.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
But the thing is right, we never It wasn't until
like later season two, season three. I think that we
were able to take you know, episodes, the episode before
and let it bleed into the next episode. Back then
in the late nineties, you always had to end that
episode and a new episode started completely fresh.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
They wanted them to be standalone. That was a spelling
thing too. They wanted them to be standalone episodes that
have anybody happened to catch it, that they would know
exactly what happened and what the storyline was in the backstory,
which led to uncomfortable exposition all the time. And yeah,
it was, and so that they.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Could sell them like easier, you know, so if somebody
didn't want to buy a whole season, it wasn't a
big deal. So it was like a financial thing as
well as an audience thing. So yes, Like now, as
a viewer in the two thousands, when TV has changed
so drastically for the better, you look back and you're like, God,
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she got over that dead guy real fast. But I'm
also like he's dead, Like are you really going to
pine Away for a dead guy that you can't even touch?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I'm telling you this was supposed to be before that episode,
and so this whole like, ugh, like it's so gross.
I love love.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
But even then, it's like whatever episode was supposed to,
you know, originally be after the Dead Men one, I
don't they probably didn't write your character to still be
you know, lit, and it's.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
So desperate, like it just rubs me all the wrong ways.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, I can see why that would do that, but also,
you know, we would be remiss we didn't say that.
It's it's why. It's part of what makes charm. Like
everyone can just pick up and watch it at any point, right,
Like it's these single serving episodes that have a beginning, middle.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
And end and you still know the characters.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Exactly, so you know it's it was very It's a
calculated thing that a lot of networks do and a
lot of television series do, so you can watch it
in any order, like maybe they watched Dead Mandating and
then the next episode they watch, you know, Loveless Down. Yeah, Coyote, Coyote, Piper.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
It's probably hard for you guys to say or truly
understand because you have so much necessary for the execution
of this as far as the details that go into this.
But bottom line, to sum it up, it's the chemistry
and the relationship that is very unique and that you
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guys pulled off with commitment every episode. And despite all
these things that know, all these details that you're talking about,
they're critically important for a good storytelling. That's what everybody
connected to in the end, it's who is delivering it
and are you bonded to them and you did that,
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and so there's where we are. There was a fun
two of this with this, there was a seriousness to this.
There was a kind of a peek into who you
guys are. Aside mere character, there are elements of just
who you are and how you walk normally, and you
all individually have something something that people are just drawn to.
(20:11):
And so that's what's happened these two and a half
decades later as far as why this show continues on.
But then we also talk about friendships, and we talk
about love, and we talk about triumphs, and we talk
about possibility, and that's kind of the undercarriage of what
this show was all about and discovering what is important
(20:34):
to you and when you have magic, which is such
an amazing thing in life, is magic. All things are
possible when you get what you think you want, do
you really want that? And once you receive that, you
start to understand the hierarchy of things As far as
that thing, well, where does that fall in the line
of what I truly value? And that's kind of the
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continual message throughout all the episodic installments.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Well, I still think the Love Spell is personal gain
all the way. But then because this addendum where it's like, oh,
but you can reverse it, we've.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
By the way, we've also skipped way ahead, so let's
look back up. And so we've already established at the quake,
a handsome stranger in a wheelchair named Whittaker. He gets
rejected by me and rejected by a waitress named Sky.
And then later that night, Whittaker visits Sky in a
very creepy dream, and the next morning she's found dead,
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and Darryl and Andy no, it's a homicide, but they
can't figure out how she died because all of her
bones are crushed. But she's like in an apartment, windows
are closed, doors are locked, so it's like, how did
she die?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Right, And they both say murder.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And then you know, Phoebe and Piper come up with
a spell to attract men because I guess you guys
don't have enough men in your lives.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Because this is what I mean. It just bumps me.
It just seems so desperate.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
It seems desperate for your character.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Desperate for the character for sure. And again it's time wise.
We have to pretend this was pre Mark.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Yeah, because it was.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
No, we don't we don't have to pretend because you
have to do it as the audience is seeing it.
So for us to go, well, we have to pretend
that it's pre marked because this is how the scripts
were rolled out. You have to base it on how
they actually played it to the audience. So, but again,
standalone episodes. So Mark is a dead guy who's now gone,
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and maybe that's why Piper agrees to do a love spell,
because like, let's delve into that for a second. Right,
a woman who is probably not as open to love
or scared but wants love, falls in love a dead guy.
Now she's a little bit heartbroken, she still wants that
love in her life. So when Phoebe, who character would
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do a love spell, you know she could convince Piper
to listen, you've got to get over and maybe this
is all played off camera, right, you have to get
over the dead guy. Like, let's get you a new guy.
Let's what are you laughing at, Brian, me trying to
justify all this.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
New dead guy? Go find a new dead guy.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Shannon, You're absolutely right, this is that's true. Like this
maybe like the fastest way to get over something is
into something new.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Maybe, right, there's plenty of dead fish in the sea.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Absolutely, So you guys, they create this spell. You and Phoebe.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
People do this all the time to get over one
brick up, they roll right into a new relationship. So
you know, maybe they're maybe just trying to move on
in a way she's trying too hard.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Well, that brings up the very very question, what do
you look for in a man?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Pipe Definitely not roaring fires, not a man who loves
love like me. Well employed and endowed is fine, but
endowered sunset bike rides no thanks.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
There's a couple of things that happen in and around
the scene with Phoebe's character that I feel were actually
very on brand for her. First her eating like a
bowl of fruit loops, and then like the thing that
she thinks is cool and sexy is like a guy
who rides a motorcycle and you know, blah blah blah.
Like she it's very her character is very fleshed out.
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I think it works like the things that she's asking
for are very immature and kind of like surfacy very
and I think that kind of like is there to
ultimately teach her a lesson? Yeah, but it definitely plays
well for the character.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
The moral of the story is you don't want a
stalker like Andy.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
True.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Okay, So while you guys are practicing this spell to
attract men, Whittaker calls for at home because apparently, like
the charm sisters, are phone numbers on speed dial for everybody,
for every stalker.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Now you have two stalkers.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, you have taking a bubble bath because that's something
we've seen Prue before. And Whittaker appears and scratches me,
starts trying to drown me to death. But I'm saved
when Piper walks in because she hears me struggling or screaming.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Hey, quick question, Prue about the bubble bath. Do you
remember shooting that? Like was the bath warm? Like how
did they do? Like if you're because scenes can take
sometimes over an hour.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, they would keep filling it with hot water.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Okay, nice, I like that. I look simple answers, Simple answers.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Look.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I had a scene once where I got into jacuzzi
and they hadn't cleaned it, and then I got hot
tub feleculitis. This was always with you.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I get that.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
What in the what hot tub?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
What fileculitis? Don't google it because you'll never be able
to unsee it. But like, so sometimes like when they
are like you were actually in a bath full of
bubbles taking you know, and scenes can take hours people,
and so like, how do how do we make sure
that you are comfortable and happy?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Is there's a thing called Screen Actors Guild and they
have like laws and rules that protect actors see people.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
That's I wanted everyone to know that. That's why I
asked the question.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
They did.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
They didn't apparently protect you, but maybe were you doing
a student film?
Speaker 3 (26:55):
No, it was a Disney film. I really had to
go to the hospital. It was gnarly.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, it was that they had rented this mansion that
was like five million dollars and they no one had
thought to clean the tub or check to see if
the tub was clean. I get in there, I have
a scene in there. I'm like in there for two hours.
It's all bubbly and nice. Jets are on that night
break out into like the worst fever ever and have
to be rushed to the hospital.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
That is that's insane.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
I have a question the mechanism used for this being
the guy that can infistrate dreams and him being immortal
and I'm curious about that. And it also we have
the other two buckling. Of course they're they're using him,
but I'm curious about his no connectiveness, no remorse, and
(27:46):
and what triggered him to go off in that direction.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
In that manner rejection.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Rejection, Yeah, Sky, the girl at the waitress after prou
rejects him, the hostess kind of rejects him.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
But this is something he's been doing forever. I think
that's what Dorian's point is is, like, how did he
turn into this guy?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Well, I thought you guys uncovered that his first partner
in the dream analysis business he was dating and on
the way home she had rejected him and died in
a car crash or something. And then that's when kind
of set him off because he was rejected by his
first love or wanted to be loved. Who was his
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dream partner?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Wow, somebody paid attention.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
It's terrible And that's that's a serial killer, one oh one.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
That's my issue with him.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
You know, it's like that trigger of they were in
the argument on the way home and so so he
is assigning his his his handicap now or what has
happened to him now to this and now everybody's going
to feel the wrath of him afterwards.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
That was anybody who rejects me, right, Which is interesting
because he had an opportunity when he got into their
dream to actually have a good time. He could it
could have been enjoyable and made their dreams pleasurable and
fun and light, and he could his dreams in the dream.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
But he's bitter. Was he in a wheelchair prior to
the accident or did the accident put him in a
wheelchair in the wheelchair, so then he hasn't actually come
to terms with being in a wheelchair being rejected, so
he's just a mess of emotions, none being positive.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
That's serial Killer one oh one is being rejected. They
take out their isolation and their anger out on innocent people.
For those of us who watch as much Dateline as.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I do, is Dateline still on?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (29:49):
It is at least at least two different channels.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Okay, So phoebe super happy about her muscular new man
Hans she got thanks to the spell. He looks like
a lumberjack the guy who was playing them that was hysterical. Meanwhile, Piper,
you're getting hit on left and right. You're a little
freaked out, but there's a guy named Jack. And then
it goes back to the dream Dream Lab with Whittaker,
(30:15):
where Andy and Daryl visit him at his workplace and
they questioned him about the dead women. But Whittaker is
a scientist who does dream experiments. So you guys walk
away not like one hundred percent sure that he's the guy,
but you're still very suspicious.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
Right, Well, we go in there and he's got nothing
but alibis, and we're going on there on the premise
of dream leaping.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
That's where we went in there with.
Speaker 8 (30:40):
And here I am knowing what the what the issue
can be with that, So of course we had to leave.
I had to rush him out of there once he
came up with well, I've got all this you're coming
to this dude, this respected person, I say in quotes,
because of him being a scientist and research and research,
and he's got all these people that he just referenced
(31:02):
as far as were the witnesses, and here we are
pressing about this supernatural stuff. So it's it's not that
we we had to come to a conclusion, but it
was time to go. We gathered there's enough of what
we could at that moment without causing further problem and
potentially impeding any further progress as far as the investigation
of this case.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Wow, do you sound so official? I believe you just
said I want to watch it again, murd So I
fall asleep.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Then then we're at Buckland's and I fall asleep at
my desk and he comes back. Whitaker comes back to
visit me in my dream, and he tries to kill me,
but Andy saves me when he calls and wakes me
up because Andy is my stalker.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, he is right, he knows when you're sleeping.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
No, why do you think Crew doesn't talk about this,
you know, this thing where you know because he's now
come to visit you twice at this point, right. Once again,
what I think.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Is funny is that I call her and say it's
an emergency, and she's like, I gotta go buy So
we're left with the creepy guys all on our own
because she has her storyline to.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Do, right. I mean, I think that one of the
reasons to answer your question, Drew, is that you know
Prue doesn't ever want to burden her sisters. That's very
well established through the three seasons. I was on, and
she always wants to protect them, and that also means
protecting them from something that's coming for her. So I
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don't think that she wanted to include them because she
was like, I got to handle this on my own
and not expose my sisters to any of this.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, it was an interesting choice that And again we'll
obviously the evolution of your relationship will take place, but
this early on, something that feels very personal and direct
to you, that you choose not to burden, as you
say you don't want to like put your sisters in
harm's way, I think is admirable but also like an
interesting thing because ultimately, you guys learned that your power
(33:07):
and your strength comes from connecting with each other.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, we're stronger together. But I think that you know,
like when we watch this Seven Deadly Sins episode, we'll
see sort of like why Prue makes the choices that
she makes, why Piper does, why Phoebe does. Like our
individual sins are very much about who we are and
how we've led our lives up until that moment. And
(33:30):
I think that Pru's isn't Prue's sin like pride or something.
I just think she's so prideful that She's like, no,
I got it, Like I can handle all of this.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Yeah. Also she's the older sister, I get. I resonate
with that.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
But this is still new to you, and you're still,
despite being more powerful as a unit, you're still dealing
with these things that you're going to protect, and we
do that every day. It's like, I could rely on
people I love where I can care for, but I
don't want to put them in the potentiality of where
this could go, despite I'd be despite the fact I'd
(34:07):
be in a better place with their help, you know,
And that's where love is.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
It does that right, But you wouldn't be able to
forgive yourself if something happened to them because you brought
them into the situation.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
My point exactly right.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
You wouldn't bring them in despite you being more powerful
with them.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
But then even when you do tell her and you
scratches and things and stuff, and I saw my mate back,
Piper's like, ah, you're tired, you imagined it.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Listen, I got a lot of guys, I gotta juggle,
got a lot on my plate.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
You do.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Maybe that's part of you not telling them anyway, because
she's just gonna be like a you're tired.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
I was the one that called and said it's an emergency,
and she's like, I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
You never saw the scratches? Is that that we were
talking about?
Speaker 8 (34:52):
You're tired and it didn't happen, but you the scratches
had disappeared. Proven, I mean, Piper never saw the scratches.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
You know what list.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
She's had bad dreams before.
Speaker 8 (35:07):
She knows her sister's overwork, and she was talking about
all this new stuff that came in off the phone quickly.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Stopped making excuses, dismiss She just dismissed her. Jesus all right,
police station. So Darryl and Andy. Darryl doesn't really understand
why Andy thinks Whitaker is the suspect. And Andy says
he thinks he's into dream leaping quotes and he specifically
kills women who have rejected him.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
What a leap, talk about leap? Yeah, but this is
why Andy super detective sleuthing slick. He's sleuthing at his
best right now.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah, but that's a huge leap to make as somebody
who supposedly doesn't, you know, believe in witches yet kind
of does like I don't know that that just was
a huge leap, But fine, Piper phoebe bombarded by gifts
and affection by men. But Piper, being the reasonable one,
is like, listen, this spell is not you know, this
(36:07):
isn't real love, This isn't true love, Like we should
probably reverse this spell. And then I call and I
ask my sisters for help to look through the Book
of Shadows.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Now she needs help.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Uh, well, she needs the books help. And she says
that she falls asleep the dream storre serwer will kill her,
which is you know, I don't And then like, so
why do you get in your car and try to
drive home? Why aren't you like anyway.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Drinking coffee immediately right right.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Like instead she's in our car like nodding off, and
you're like, what are you doing, Like, come on, Prue,
don't be so you know stupid. But the great thing
is is that she does not die from crashing her
car into like a poll and it brings her sisters in,
who give her you know again that sort of connectivity
(37:08):
drew that you were talking about before, of like they're
always stronger together.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I thought this was and this is a testament to
Connie's genius because you can tell that definitely was the
episode was meddled by But this to be now in
this accident and now in a coma where you're forced
to sleep, is a really really smart kind of thing
that we have to overcome, Like this is an obstacle
(37:36):
like that we love as an audience, like, oh shit,
she can't wake up like before, like Okay, maybe you're
blasting the ac, you're taking coffee, but now you've been
in a car accident, you are in a coma, Like
the stakes couldn't be higher in this moment. I thought
that was really well played, like from a story point standpoint.
So then we have the girls there whispering to you
(37:57):
because a lot of times you hear that people in
comas can still here people there in the room and
they you know, we've heard countless stories of this, But
I think that was a really smart story device. And
I like that, you know, Piper and Phoebe are there
are now kind of like trying to help guide her
through this this battle that she's ultimately going to have
(38:18):
with Whittaker.
Speaker 8 (38:20):
Yeah, and the power within and I guess there's another
through line as far as the every episodic installment of
that you are how you can do this, and you're
getting the support of those who love you. That that
enlighten you to the fact that no matter what you're facing,
you can do this. You can navigate, you can you
can persevere, you can conquer this.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
So I like it, h I mean, had I honestly
believe that, Like, had the sisters not come to the
hospital and been in her ear, she you know, it
would have been a very different result.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
It was then their belief that she could do it
there like love for her, that that gave her the
strength in her coma to actually fight this guy back,
and you find the way to her powers through the
coma to throw him off the building and ultimately kill him.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
And I think this episode does a great job of
executing the Sisterhood tribes over evil, Like, when you guys
are really connected this, you can overcome anything. And I
think dream sorcer, especially that kind of pinnacle moment when
you have that showdown with him, that yes what I get.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
And dreams of course internal reflection of the of all
battles that reside within you. And so you're overcoming the
most horrific things of unimaginable consequence. That is actually your
own battle that resides within you. And you're being shown
through your dreams the power of you being able to
no matter what you're confronted with that internally you have
(39:55):
the capacity and the abilities to do that.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
So I appreciate that mechanism.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
And then you say you're never going to doubt Andy again.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
You do say that? Did you say that?
Speaker 8 (40:05):
I do say that under my side, you know, and
of course that that is the thought of the moment.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
But this is all new, man, I mean it.
Speaker 8 (40:19):
I don't want to be a part of this stuff
that I think deep inside Darryl knows is in existence.
I think we all know that there are things that
are beyond our comprehension. And now you're having this as
a reality that you have to navigate in every day.
So whatever you stated, then it is going to be
consistent battle of that as for us is coming to
(40:39):
terms with that and be confronted with the reality of that.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Day in and day out.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Never's a long time, just so.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
I know.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
And then stock Randy shows up with more flowers.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Go figure exactly, and that's the end of the episode.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Well, reminding her sisters never forget. The genuine of action
is better than any sort of affection you can conjure
with a spell.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Careful what you wish for.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
That's very true.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
Careful.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
You know, I might take some conjured affection over real
affection nowadays in my life. But sure that's just me,
just life experience. Yeah, you know what I really liked
about it. I really liked my dress that I was
in when I threw him over the end of the building.
(41:30):
I really liked it. I liked my hair, I liked
my dress.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
You were having a good old time this episode. I
remember that stage built inside where you threw him off,
and all the smoke hole of hell of smoke.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
It would But it was, like, I don't know, it
was there was something very sexy about this episode. Even
though he was trying to kill me. There was still
something oddly sexy, like the way it was lit that
outfits the whole thing, Like it was just a yeah
it was. I I liked filming this episode.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Maybe it was dream sort sort of voice.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Well.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
I thought Matt actually did a great job too, Like
you know, a good villain kind of has a lot
of fun doing it. Yeah, that's that's what we love
about some of our villains. It's like, oh, they're they're
taking He took a lot of joy in it, and
I thought from an acting standpoint, he did great, Like
it was a really fun kind of he made some
really fun choices and.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Like he had some charming moments.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Yeah, for sure, absolutely.
Speaker 8 (42:36):
I enjoyed the cold the cold open and what you
were talking about him kind of having fun with that
that last scene that they had where he just kind
of when he pushed it over over the over the
ledge and kind of did this how and did this
moment that they captured and then cut cut the commercial,
so again drew the fun of that he was having
with that character.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Was kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Okay, So overall we liked it.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Me not so much.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
But it's it's not the best, but it's not the worst.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
I found some things that I enjoyed. I don't know
if I'm muna say yeah, I found some things that
I enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Okay, Well, audience, we would like you to, you know,
weigh in on this, like did you hate the episode?
Did you like it?
Speaker 5 (43:20):
Shannon enjoyed it quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I mean, there are other episodes I liked better. That
we all did. But I think for the beginning of
this show still trying to find its legs and then
like finding its legs with like a you know, dead
Man episode, But then again we don't, you know, everything
shot out a sequence. But we can't keep referring to
(43:44):
that because it's how the audience views it, not like
what are what we think it should have been or
how it should have been. It's like how they view
it and how we, you know, end up playing those
characters where it's all believable. At the end of the day,
I think that it wasn't as bad as it could
(44:05):
have been.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 8 (44:08):
It does, And again Drew's made a comment about this,
it was ninety eight I believe this episode correct and
the time that we were in a also some other
stuff that, you know, like the restrictions that were imposed
as far or what you had to navigate that early
on in all the resources and figuring out all those
moving parts to do something of this nature. We started
(44:30):
talking about stunts and special effects and blah blah blah blah.
So considering again fifth episode, first season, it was good.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, I mean, maybe it's because I never watched the
show so now I watch it, I don't know there's
an appreciation for it. I'm not in my critical stage
of the show. I'm in that like first awareness of
it where I'm like, oh, wow, you know what for
what it was us in that day and age, It's
(45:02):
really good. It's really entertaining, and and it's very creative.
Like who comes up with a dream sorcerer who can
kill women by throwing them off buildings in a dream?
Like to me that like, well that's actually creative. Like yeah,
so yeah, I'm I'm in an appreciative phase. Maybe if
(45:22):
I have to watch it three times that might change.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Well just wait till next week's wedding from how and
you will see.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
I'm not listening. I'm going in with very fresh eyes
fresh yes.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
Just.
Speaker 5 (45:40):
One.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Remember this moment.
Speaker 8 (45:43):
I enjoy where all this kind of stuff stems from
from Greek mythology. When we start talking about why am
I forgetting the guy from Morpheus and and this and
the sons of Sleep and and and his his his
brothers and his sisters and his his when we we
start theinking about there's the woman, all the hypno hypno
(46:03):
I believe is Greek, and all these gods and the
rulers of dreams and what dreams are about. And I
kind of enjoyed that connectedness as far as probably where
all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
Was sourced from.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yeah, Duran, you just keep digging real deep his homework, right,
I'm like, yeah, what he said? That sounds really good?
Can you just can you just write everything for me
for now on? I'll just repeat it.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
I could not do better than you, girl. I love
you and I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
You're just way too smart and funny.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
Thanks for hanging out with us.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
D Absolutely yeah, yeah, we love you.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
We can't wait to have you back on.
Speaker 8 (46:49):
Me too, if you guys get a chance. I don't
know if you are aware of this. Have you seen
the Obi Wan Kenobi series?
Speaker 2 (46:56):
No?
Speaker 8 (46:58):
Do you see that you're not a fan Star Wars
any of that stuff. Well, take a look and punching
doing Gregory and Darth Vader, and I'd love for you, guys,
I love for you to let me know what you think.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
Mm hmmm yeah. And I'm telling you you should have
done the synopsis.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
I should have.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Hey, why don't we give them a short time to
do it right now? But we can come full circle
and where we begin.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
It's cut and paste.
Speaker 4 (47:23):
No, we'll wait, we'll wait, come.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
On, take a shat, no pressure.
Speaker 8 (47:29):
All you got to do is just Google search it,
and you'll you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll understand Darth Vader and
that's it.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
I'm definitely going to Google search it, and then you're
you're gonna come right back on here and do whatever
they're asking you to do.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
That. Boy, was that a lot.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
I would love to well, thanks again, d for being here.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
I'll see you soon.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
I love you too. I'll talk to you guys later.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
I have a great day, you too.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
God he's such a sweet man, so smart. Thanks guys
for checking this week out. We'll see you next week.
House of halliwell
Speaker 4 (48:09):
Mhm
Episode five Here on h O H bry b K.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Go for dream Sorcerer.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Dream Sorcerer written by Constance Burge.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Nightmares are taken to a whole new level when a
mad scientist murders women and their slumber. But when a
sleepy serial killer comes for Prue.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Can I direct you for one second and just ask
you to read it?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I was trying to do it like the guy in
the show.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
No, just read it normal?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
No no no, I was like, let me be the
dream Sorcerer.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Guy chose its.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Why don't you give it a go?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
No, no, this is you know, this is your.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Come on, BK, you got this. Just say it normal?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay. Dream Sorcerer nightmares are taken to a whole new
level when a mad scientist murders women in their slumber.
But when the sleepy serial killer comes for Prue, she
uses her powers to slay the mirror mortal in his
own dream. Meanwhile, popular Phoebe cast a love spell that
backfires big time, causing the lonely sisters to regret conjuring
(01:13):
a love connection.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Okay, that was better, but I'm still gonna ask you
to do it one more time.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I don't want to do it anymore.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
You have to me.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You've made me self conscious about it, like my first
choice terrupting me on the second choice.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I didn't say anything.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Think of this as an acting exercise. I think I'm reading,
I know, but how you read is sometimes acting. Like,
just read it then, everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Hush, Okay, okay, okay, dream Sorcerer.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Don't lower your voice like that, like the minute you start.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
To like my sleepy in bed dream sorcerer voice.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Just be dream sorcerer. Just say it normal.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's not as sexy.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I'm now going perfect.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Dream Sorcerer's not sexy either.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
But when you say dream yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
That's not that's.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
You can do it in a British accent.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Do that?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Oh no, I can't you your dentals, your teeth up?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Rex Buckland? Ever say Rex Buckland, Rex Buckland. See that's
that'd be a good dream Sorcerer one or do we
need it again?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
This is content, baby, you're crushing. I'm loving this.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Take three.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
This is the gold. This is the gold that we mine.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Do I look sweaty?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Do you look?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
What?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Do you want to touch up?
Speaker 6 (02:40):
God?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah? Dreams dream Sorcerer nightmares are taken to a whole
new level when a mad scientist murders women in their slumber,
but with a sleepy serial killer comes for Prue, she
(03:02):
uses her powers to slay the mirror mortal in his
own dream.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
Meanwhile, Peep Peeper, the one named mess Up.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
He's still mad about John Chow.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
A week later, mad, oh my god, where are you?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Okay, dream Sorcerer drew.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And only for a second. Just let Brian get through this. Thanks,
you're welcome go.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Dream Treasure nightmares are taken to a whole new level
when a man scientist murders women in their slumber, but
when the sleepy serial killer comes from Prue, she uses
her powers to slay the mere mortal in his own dream. Meanwhile,
Piper and Phoebe castle love spell that backfires big time.
I'm causing the lonely sisters to regret conjuring a love connection. Okay, better,
(04:07):
it's it's doable. It's it's playable.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
That one's playable. I'll work with you later on all this.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
You know interacting, So.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Dreams, I'd love to do one in the dreamy sorcerer voice.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Can you do that? Just just give me like one
sentence so I can hear what that sounds like?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Meanwhile, by Bir and Phoebe cast a love spell that
backfires big time, causing the lonely system.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Moving on and moving on.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Okay, Yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It's like when you it's like when you go a
mad scientist murders women in their slumber and the like,
why not just read it like when a mad scientist
murders women in their slumber because nobody says slumber.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
All right, It's it's like watching you know, when you
say murder.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
That's not interesting. But I love you. You're great. You
know you're adding a whole other dimension.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It's murder has four syllables.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, and I never thought of it like that. So
thank you for educating me. And there I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
There's you have a great voice.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I feel like the untapped potential is you know, there's
a there's an anime out there just dying for you
to say dreams.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Okay, So episode weekend, we are at Quake at Piper's
restaurant that she runs that she owns like you seem to,
I don't seem to just be dumped in your lap.
And now it's all yours, right, apparently.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It starts with these really we come in real hot
with like some of the worst pickup lines in the
history of the game. These are just firing lines.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Those definitely came from bread Kurring.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Has has it ever worked on?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
What lines?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Do?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
We start?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Like?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah with like did you think something baby something like
that baby bomb you did?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Was that not after this ball was cast?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
No, it's literally the opening, like right away opening. It
just starts with bad pickup lines.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
But Constance wrote this, and Constance doesn't do that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They came from brad rid
on it. He did a Polish for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Okay, So we're in Quake and a handsome stranger in
a wheelchair named Whittaker gets rejected apparently by me and
a waitress named Sky Russell, and then it cuts to
like being in Sky's apartment later that night, and Whittaker
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actually visits Sky in a creepy dream and the next
morning she has found dead, like the dream is. I
thought the dream was actually really cool because he sort
of you know, romances her in a way and then
pushes her off this really tall building and you see her,
(07:17):
you know, falling. What appears to be hundreds of stories
and you're like, well, yeah, but it's a dream, so
what does this really matter? But then she doesn't wake
up and her body, like all of her bones are crushed,
as if she had been thrown off of a incredibly
high building.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Right he speaking, somebody is paying right now. You just
need a slate right now. I think we have we
did you want to the episode? I think we've skipped
a very important part. For Yes, Prue refuses the chardonnay
from the wheelchair bound and.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Suitor I said, prew rejects him.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
No, but you reject him because you're seeing something someone
who's apparently now full fledged. Maybe I'll go to the
SPA with him.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
The f BF name Andy Trudeau.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
You know. I like to skip over that because again,
like it's too fast forward. Like the last episode, they
saw each other at Prue's surprise party and like kind
of waved like.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
He's just hanging out.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
This relationship really develops off camera.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Well's interesting though in this opening bit is like the
girls are also complaining about uh being single.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yes, yeah, we're getting there. Do we should we have
Dorian come in now?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
It's always a good time for Dorian.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
There he is.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
I Hello, Brian Holly, what's happening?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
What's happening?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Man, good to see it.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
We should have had Dorian do the synopsis because he's
the full fledged voiceover actor.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, I just I can't even.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
I have to take a moment because every time my
heart starts to race when I see you guys, I
love you, and Shannon is just so awesome to see
you and I just there it is. That's it, that's it.
So my moment is gone, there it is.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I know we've missed you. We need another Paris trip
or something, right.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, so this is gonna be fun, Dorian, because I
had a lot of questions about you and Andy right right,
you know, watching it back, because I never watched it before.
So actually watching it, I'm like, ew, like Andy's kind
(09:58):
of a stalker and like their relationship doesn't really work.
What I did love watching it now is like yours
in Tw's chemistry on camera was really good, Like you
guys actually had something that worked, as you know, two
detectives who are partners that hang out and that actually
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had a connection, whereas TW and I there was there
was no connection, just because they didn't build the relationship
at all.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
You know, I.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
Go back to a note that I think I talked
about previously where I made sure to try to be
a little light and try to which is part of
what a connection is is the familiarity. And you know
it was there were times where I don't know if
there was that same I'm trying to trying to find
(10:53):
the words we were on the same page of that
we're partners and there is a there's a humanity about that.
There's a human being behind that versus what's on the page.
And I didn't feel that as much as I would
have liked to. But Aaron, in that first note that
was given to me, as far as you know, this
(11:17):
goes beyond the job, your two individuals and your two
human beings and your friends, and so I you know,
it was it was an interesting navigation as far as
trying to have that lightness in the relationship as well
as being immersed in what this was in this world
of things that we could not understand, could not explain,
(11:39):
did not expect.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
But there's still two human beings in there.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
And in times of crisis and when you're faced in that,
there's going to be that element in there as far
as how you balance that, and so you know, I
don't have a good answer for that. He was kind
of a There was a lot of it was very straightforward,
and I didn't see enough levels and in that dynamic
that I would have liked.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I understand that. I will say though, that I think
you brought a lot of different levels into it because
you did bring the lightness, you did bring the like, Hey,
but I've known you forever, like I know when you're
an asshole, I know when you're you know, taking things
too far, like I know when you're not paying attention
to your job and you're paying too much attention to
(12:23):
the girl. Like there was enough of that and to
where I mean, to be brutally honest, like when we
were filming and you guys had scenes together, I was
always like, God, is this like working Like it just
doesn't seem like they work together. And then watching it,
I was like, holy crap, that relationship really worked, Like
(12:45):
it was really good on camera. So yeah, kudos to you,
because I think you did a great job.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
I thank you for saying that. I think it worked.
Speaker 8 (12:53):
In totality, this relationship was this this this synergy of
what you guys were navigating through, and Brian and Drew
and everybody as they as we progressed on in their
contribution to this mainline story, and that helped because that
scene was never just about two people. It was about
(13:14):
what was happening in totality, and you guys really made
that work and gave me something to feed off of constantly,
whether you were in the scene or not, because if
you were there, if you weren't there, the scene was
still about you, because that scene was what you guys
were navigating through, and we were working in partnership to
try to find some type of elevated relationship to resolve
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this mysterious thing that we were all adapting to.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Very very intelligently said by Rank, thank.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
You appreciate that. I mean, I.
Speaker 8 (13:53):
Have to state this, I rewatched I don't ever watch
my work and watching you guys again, and the very
specific things that each one of you brought as far
as who you are at the core of character and
I have I can't say enough about how I feel
(14:14):
about Holly and how I feel about you and your
specificity and your commitment to truth and early on we're
talking about first season, fifth episode, And when I was watching,
you know, the scenes and there's little subtleties that you
are connected with, but when you watch closely from an
artistic standpoint, as far as the truth you bought brought
(14:37):
when this guy came up and you were the how
you felt and your whole navigation and connectedness and the
nuances with your sisters and how you related to them
and how you guys were still trying to figure that out,
but you saw history there. It felt like you guys
had true history, and it felt like there's so the
(14:57):
such close relationship and you guys were so specific and
separate in your identity, and watching the craft of that,
I so enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Wow, well we thank you, Thank you a lot. I
actually wasn't going in with very high expectations because, like
Drew had mentioned that he didn't really like this episode,
now he likes it, and I watched it and I
was like, I really liked it. I thought that there
was really sort of interesting things happening in it, and
(15:34):
I think everything with the sisters. Anyway, we have to
do the recap, but I did like this episode quite
a bit.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
It's not my favorite, just obviously because I had to
do the love spell stuff, which is obviously not my
favorite if you.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Look like past that, the overall I think was pretty good.
I mean, even the special effects of him going into
dreams and all of that, it wasn't as bad as
as it could have been. I think that you know,
they had been progressing and learning, and you know, we
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were out of you know, eyes glowing, which was really good.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
It helps.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I think probably part of it also is you're just
coming off of dead Man dating and having still not
over it deep connection and then to kind of then
the next episode be casting love spells and putting out
like what you have.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
It depends right, like of when these were actually shot.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, but the way it was aired, it doesn't play
necessarily as authentic as it would if it was aired
probably in the way you guys shot it.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yeah, like this one should have been before.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
But the thing is right, we never It wasn't until
like later season two, season three. I think that we
were able to take you know, episodes, the episode before
and let it bleed into the next episode. Back then
in the late nineties, you always had to end that
episode and a new episode started completely fresh.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
They wanted them to be standalone. That was a spelling
thing too. They wanted them to be standalone episodes that
have anybody happened to catch it, that they would know
exactly what happened and what the storyline was in the backstory,
which led to uncomfortable exposition all the time. And yeah,
it was, and so that they.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Could sell them like easier, you know, so if somebody
didn't want to buy a whole season, it wasn't a
big deal. So it was like a financial thing as
well as an audience thing. So yes, Like now, as
a viewer in the two thousands, when TV has changed
so drastically for the better, you look back and you're like, God,
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she got over that dead guy real fast. But I'm
also like he's dead, Like are you really going to
pine Away for a dead guy that you can't even touch?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I'm telling you this was supposed to be before that episode,
and so this whole like, ugh, like it's so gross.
I love love.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
But even then, it's like whatever episode was supposed to,
you know, originally be after the Dead Men one, I
don't they probably didn't write your character to still be
you know, lit, and it's.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
So desperate, like it just rubs me all the wrong ways.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, I can see why that would do that, but also,
you know, we would be remiss we didn't say that.
It's it's why. It's part of what makes charm. Like
everyone can just pick up and watch it at any point, right,
Like it's these single serving episodes that have a beginning, middle.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
And end and you still know the characters.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Exactly, so you know it's it was very It's a
calculated thing that a lot of networks do and a
lot of television series do, so you can watch it
in any order, like maybe they watched Dead Mandating and
then the next episode they watch, you know, Loveless Down. Yeah, Coyote, Coyote, Piper.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
It's probably hard for you guys to say or truly
understand because you have so much necessary for the execution
of this as far as the details that go into this.
But bottom line, to sum it up, it's the chemistry
and the relationship that is very unique and that you
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guys pulled off with commitment every episode. And despite all
these things that know, all these details that you're talking about,
they're critically important for a good storytelling. That's what everybody
connected to in the end, it's who is delivering it
and are you bonded to them and you did that,
(19:48):
and so there's where we are. There was a fun
two of this with this, there was a seriousness to this.
There was a kind of a peek into who you
guys are. Aside mere character, there are elements of just
who you are and how you walk normally, and you
all individually have something something that people are just drawn to.
(20:11):
And so that's what's happened these two and a half
decades later as far as why this show continues on.
But then we also talk about friendships, and we talk
about love, and we talk about triumphs, and we talk
about possibility, and that's kind of the undercarriage of what
this show was all about and discovering what is important
(20:34):
to you and when you have magic, which is such
an amazing thing in life, is magic. All things are
possible when you get what you think you want, do
you really want that? And once you receive that, you
start to understand the hierarchy of things As far as
that thing, well, where does that fall in the line
of what I truly value? And that's kind of the
(20:56):
continual message throughout all the episodic installments.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Well, I still think the Love Spell is personal gain
all the way. But then because this addendum where it's like, oh,
but you can reverse it, we've.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
By the way, we've also skipped way ahead, so let's
look back up. And so we've already established at the quake,
a handsome stranger in a wheelchair named Whittaker. He gets
rejected by me and rejected by a waitress named Sky.
And then later that night, Whittaker visits Sky in a
very creepy dream, and the next morning she's found dead,
(21:38):
and Darryl and Andy no, it's a homicide, but they
can't figure out how she died because all of her
bones are crushed. But she's like in an apartment, windows
are closed, doors are locked, so it's like, how did
she die?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Right, And they both say murder.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And then you know, Phoebe and Piper come up with
a spell to attract men because I guess you guys
don't have enough men in your lives.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Because this is what I mean. It just bumps me.
It just seems so desperate.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
It seems desperate for your character.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Desperate for the character for sure. And again it's time wise.
We have to pretend this was pre Mark.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Yeah, because it was.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
No, we don't we don't have to pretend because you
have to do it as the audience is seeing it.
So for us to go, well, we have to pretend
that it's pre marked because this is how the scripts
were rolled out. You have to base it on how
they actually played it to the audience. So, but again,
standalone episodes. So Mark is a dead guy who's now gone,
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and maybe that's why Piper agrees to do a love spell,
because like, let's delve into that for a second. Right,
a woman who is probably not as open to love
or scared but wants love, falls in love a dead guy.
Now she's a little bit heartbroken, she still wants that
love in her life. So when Phoebe, who character would
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do a love spell, you know she could convince Piper
to listen, you've got to get over and maybe this
is all played off camera, right, you have to get
over the dead guy. Like, let's get you a new guy.
Let's what are you laughing at, Brian, me trying to
justify all this.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
New dead guy? Go find a new dead guy.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Shannon, You're absolutely right, this is that's true. Like this
maybe like the fastest way to get over something is
into something new.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Maybe, right, there's plenty of dead fish in the sea.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Absolutely, So you guys, they create this spell. You and Phoebe.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
People do this all the time to get over one
brick up, they roll right into a new relationship. So
you know, maybe they're maybe just trying to move on
in a way she's trying too hard.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Well, that brings up the very very question, what do
you look for in a man?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Pipe Definitely not roaring fires, not a man who loves
love like me. Well employed and endowed is fine, but
endowered sunset bike rides no thanks.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
There's a couple of things that happen in and around
the scene with Phoebe's character that I feel were actually
very on brand for her. First her eating like a
bowl of fruit loops, and then like the thing that
she thinks is cool and sexy is like a guy
who rides a motorcycle and you know, blah blah blah.
Like she it's very her character is very fleshed out.
(24:50):
I think it works like the things that she's asking
for are very immature and kind of like surfacy very
and I think that kind of like is there to
ultimately teach her a lesson? Yeah, but it definitely plays
well for the character.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
The moral of the story is you don't want a
stalker like Andy.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
True.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Okay, So while you guys are practicing this spell to
attract men, Whittaker calls for at home because apparently, like
the charm sisters, are phone numbers on speed dial for everybody,
for every stalker.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Now you have two stalkers.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, you have taking a bubble bath because that's something
we've seen Prue before. And Whittaker appears and scratches me,
starts trying to drown me to death. But I'm saved
when Piper walks in because she hears me struggling or screaming.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Hey, quick question, Prue about the bubble bath. Do you
remember shooting that? Like was the bath warm? Like how
did they do? Like if you're because scenes can take
sometimes over an hour.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, they would keep filling it with hot water.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Okay, nice, I like that. I look simple answers, Simple answers.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Look.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I had a scene once where I got into jacuzzi
and they hadn't cleaned it, and then I got hot
tub feleculitis. This was always with you.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I get that.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
What in the what hot tub?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
What fileculitis? Don't google it because you'll never be able
to unsee it. But like, so sometimes like when they
are like you were actually in a bath full of
bubbles taking you know, and scenes can take hours people,
and so like, how do how do we make sure
that you are comfortable and happy?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Is there's a thing called Screen Actors Guild and they
have like laws and rules that protect actors see people.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
That's I wanted everyone to know that. That's why I
asked the question.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
They did.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
They didn't apparently protect you, but maybe were you doing
a student film?
Speaker 3 (26:55):
No, it was a Disney film. I really had to
go to the hospital. It was gnarly.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, it was that they had rented this mansion that
was like five million dollars and they no one had
thought to clean the tub or check to see if
the tub was clean. I get in there, I have
a scene in there. I'm like in there for two hours.
It's all bubbly and nice. Jets are on that night
break out into like the worst fever ever and have
to be rushed to the hospital.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
That is that's insane.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
I have a question the mechanism used for this being
the guy that can infistrate dreams and him being immortal
and I'm curious about that. And it also we have
the other two buckling. Of course they're they're using him,
but I'm curious about his no connectiveness, no remorse, and
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and what triggered him to go off in that direction.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
In that manner rejection.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Rejection, Yeah, Sky, the girl at the waitress after prou
rejects him, the hostess kind of rejects him.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
But this is something he's been doing forever. I think
that's what Dorian's point is is, like, how did he
turn into this guy?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Well, I thought you guys uncovered that his first partner
in the dream analysis business he was dating and on
the way home she had rejected him and died in
a car crash or something. And then that's when kind
of set him off because he was rejected by his
first love or wanted to be loved. Who was his
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dream partner?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Wow, somebody paid attention.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
It's terrible And that's that's a serial killer, one oh one.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
That's my issue with him.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
You know, it's like that trigger of they were in
the argument on the way home and so so he
is assigning his his his handicap now or what has
happened to him now to this and now everybody's going
to feel the wrath of him afterwards.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
That was anybody who rejects me, right, Which is interesting
because he had an opportunity when he got into their
dream to actually have a good time. He could it
could have been enjoyable and made their dreams pleasurable and
fun and light, and he could his dreams in the dream.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
But he's bitter. Was he in a wheelchair prior to
the accident or did the accident put him in a
wheelchair in the wheelchair, so then he hasn't actually come
to terms with being in a wheelchair being rejected, so
he's just a mess of emotions, none being positive.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
That's serial Killer one oh one is being rejected. They
take out their isolation and their anger out on innocent people.
For those of us who watch as much Dateline as.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I do, is Dateline still on?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (29:49):
It is at least at least two different channels.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Okay, So phoebe super happy about her muscular new man
Hans she got thanks to the spell. He looks like
a lumberjack the guy who was playing them that was hysterical. Meanwhile, Piper,
you're getting hit on left and right. You're a little
freaked out, but there's a guy named Jack. And then
it goes back to the dream Dream Lab with Whittaker,
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where Andy and Daryl visit him at his workplace and
they questioned him about the dead women. But Whittaker is
a scientist who does dream experiments. So you guys walk
away not like one hundred percent sure that he's the guy,
but you're still very suspicious.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
Right, Well, we go in there and he's got nothing
but alibis, and we're going on there on the premise
of dream leaping.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
That's where we went in there with.
Speaker 8 (30:40):
And here I am knowing what the what the issue
can be with that, So of course we had to leave.
I had to rush him out of there once he
came up with well, I've got all this you're coming
to this dude, this respected person, I say in quotes,
because of him being a scientist and research and research,
and he's got all these people that he just referenced
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as far as were the witnesses, and here we are
pressing about this supernatural stuff. So it's it's not that
we we had to come to a conclusion, but it
was time to go. We gathered there's enough of what
we could at that moment without causing further problem and
potentially impeding any further progress as far as the investigation
of this case.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Wow, do you sound so official? I believe you just
said I want to watch it again, murd So I
fall asleep.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Then then we're at Buckland's and I fall asleep at
my desk and he comes back. Whitaker comes back to
visit me in my dream, and he tries to kill me,
but Andy saves me when he calls and wakes me
up because Andy is my stalker.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, he is right, he knows when you're sleeping.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
No, why do you think Crew doesn't talk about this,
you know, this thing where you know because he's now
come to visit you twice at this point, right. Once again,
what I think.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Is funny is that I call her and say it's
an emergency, and she's like, I gotta go buy So
we're left with the creepy guys all on our own
because she has her storyline to.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Do, right. I mean, I think that one of the
reasons to answer your question, Drew, is that you know
Prue doesn't ever want to burden her sisters. That's very
well established through the three seasons. I was on, and
she always wants to protect them, and that also means
protecting them from something that's coming for her. So I
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don't think that she wanted to include them because she
was like, I got to handle this on my own
and not expose my sisters to any of this.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, it was an interesting choice that And again we'll
obviously the evolution of your relationship will take place, but
this early on, something that feels very personal and direct
to you, that you choose not to burden, as you
say you don't want to like put your sisters in
harm's way, I think is admirable but also like an
interesting thing because ultimately, you guys learned that your power
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and your strength comes from connecting with each other.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, we're stronger together. But I think that you know,
like when we watch this Seven Deadly Sins episode, we'll
see sort of like why Prue makes the choices that
she makes, why Piper does, why Phoebe does. Like our
individual sins are very much about who we are and
how we've led our lives up until that moment. And
(33:30):
I think that Pru's isn't Prue's sin like pride or something.
I just think she's so prideful that She's like, no,
I got it, Like I can handle all of this.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Yeah. Also she's the older sister, I get. I resonate
with that.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
But this is still new to you, and you're still,
despite being more powerful as a unit, you're still dealing
with these things that you're going to protect, and we
do that every day. It's like, I could rely on
people I love where I can care for, but I
don't want to put them in the potentiality of where
this could go, despite I'd be despite the fact I'd
(34:07):
be in a better place with their help, you know,
And that's where love is.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
It does that right, But you wouldn't be able to
forgive yourself if something happened to them because you brought
them into the situation.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
My point exactly right.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
You wouldn't bring them in despite you being more powerful
with them.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
But then even when you do tell her and you
scratches and things and stuff, and I saw my mate back,
Piper's like, ah, you're tired, you imagined it.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Listen, I got a lot of guys, I gotta juggle,
got a lot on my plate.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
You do.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Maybe that's part of you not telling them anyway, because
she's just gonna be like a you're tired.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
I was the one that called and said it's an emergency,
and she's like, I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
You never saw the scratches? Is that that we were
talking about?
Speaker 8 (34:52):
You're tired and it didn't happen, but you the scratches
had disappeared. Proven, I mean, Piper never saw the scratches.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
You know what list.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
She's had bad dreams before.
Speaker 8 (35:07):
She knows her sister's overwork, and she was talking about
all this new stuff that came in off the phone quickly.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Stopped making excuses, dismiss She just dismissed her. Jesus all right,
police station. So Darryl and Andy. Darryl doesn't really understand
why Andy thinks Whitaker is the suspect. And Andy says
he thinks he's into dream leaping quotes and he specifically
kills women who have rejected him.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
What a leap, talk about leap? Yeah, but this is
why Andy super detective sleuthing slick. He's sleuthing at his
best right now.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah, but that's a huge leap to make as somebody
who supposedly doesn't, you know, believe in witches yet kind
of does like I don't know that that just was
a huge leap, But fine, Piper phoebe bombarded by gifts
and affection by men. But Piper, being the reasonable one,
is like, listen, this spell is not you know, this
(36:07):
isn't real love, This isn't true love, Like we should
probably reverse this spell. And then I call and I
ask my sisters for help to look through the Book
of Shadows.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Now she needs help.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Uh, well, she needs the books help. And she says
that she falls asleep the dream storre serwer will kill her,
which is you know, I don't And then like, so
why do you get in your car and try to
drive home? Why aren't you like anyway.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Drinking coffee immediately right right.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Like instead she's in our car like nodding off, and
you're like, what are you doing, Like, come on, Prue,
don't be so you know stupid. But the great thing
is is that she does not die from crashing her
car into like a poll and it brings her sisters in,
who give her you know again that sort of connectivity
(37:08):
drew that you were talking about before, of like they're
always stronger together.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I thought this was and this is a testament to
Connie's genius because you can tell that definitely was the
episode was meddled by But this to be now in
this accident and now in a coma where you're forced
to sleep, is a really really smart kind of thing
that we have to overcome, Like this is an obstacle
(37:36):
like that we love as an audience, like, oh shit,
she can't wake up like before, like Okay, maybe you're
blasting the ac, you're taking coffee, but now you've been
in a car accident, you are in a coma, Like
the stakes couldn't be higher in this moment. I thought
that was really well played, like from a story point standpoint.
So then we have the girls there whispering to you
(37:57):
because a lot of times you hear that people in
comas can still here people there in the room and
they you know, we've heard countless stories of this, But
I think that was a really smart story device. And
I like that, you know, Piper and Phoebe are there
are now kind of like trying to help guide her
through this this battle that she's ultimately going to have
(38:18):
with Whittaker.
Speaker 8 (38:20):
Yeah, and the power within and I guess there's another
through line as far as the every episodic installment of
that you are how you can do this, and you're
getting the support of those who love you. That that
enlighten you to the fact that no matter what you're facing,
you can do this. You can navigate, you can you
can persevere, you can conquer this.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
So I like it, h I mean, had I honestly
believe that, Like, had the sisters not come to the
hospital and been in her ear, she you know, it
would have been a very different result.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
It was then their belief that she could do it
there like love for her, that that gave her the
strength in her coma to actually fight this guy back,
and you find the way to her powers through the
coma to throw him off the building and ultimately kill him.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
And I think this episode does a great job of
executing the Sisterhood tribes over evil, Like, when you guys
are really connected this, you can overcome anything. And I
think dream sorcer, especially that kind of pinnacle moment when
you have that showdown with him, that yes what I get.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
And dreams of course internal reflection of the of all
battles that reside within you. And so you're overcoming the
most horrific things of unimaginable consequence. That is actually your
own battle that resides within you. And you're being shown
through your dreams the power of you being able to
no matter what you're confronted with that internally you have
(39:55):
the capacity and the abilities to do that.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
So I appreciate that mechanism.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
And then you say you're never going to doubt Andy again.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
You do say that? Did you say that?
Speaker 8 (40:05):
I do say that under my side, you know, and
of course that that is the thought of the moment.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
But this is all new, man, I mean it.
Speaker 8 (40:19):
I don't want to be a part of this stuff
that I think deep inside Darryl knows is in existence.
I think we all know that there are things that
are beyond our comprehension. And now you're having this as
a reality that you have to navigate in every day.
So whatever you stated, then it is going to be
consistent battle of that as for us is coming to
(40:39):
terms with that and be confronted with the reality of that.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Day in and day out.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Never's a long time, just so.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
I know.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
And then stock Randy shows up with more flowers.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Go figure exactly, and that's the end of the episode.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Well, reminding her sisters never forget. The genuine of action
is better than any sort of affection you can conjure
with a spell.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Careful what you wish for.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
That's very true.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
Careful.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
You know, I might take some conjured affection over real
affection nowadays in my life. But sure that's just me,
just life experience. Yeah, you know what I really liked
about it. I really liked my dress that I was
in when I threw him over the end of the building.
(41:30):
I really liked it. I liked my hair, I liked
my dress.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
You were having a good old time this episode. I
remember that stage built inside where you threw him off,
and all the smoke hole of hell of smoke.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
It would But it was, like, I don't know, it
was there was something very sexy about this episode. Even
though he was trying to kill me. There was still
something oddly sexy, like the way it was lit that
outfits the whole thing, Like it was just a yeah
it was. I I liked filming this episode.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Maybe it was dream sort sort of voice.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Well.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
I thought Matt actually did a great job too, Like
you know, a good villain kind of has a lot
of fun doing it. Yeah, that's that's what we love
about some of our villains. It's like, oh, they're they're
taking He took a lot of joy in it, and
I thought from an acting standpoint, he did great, Like
it was a really fun kind of he made some
really fun choices and.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Like he had some charming moments.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Yeah, for sure, absolutely.
Speaker 8 (42:36):
I enjoyed the cold the cold open and what you
were talking about him kind of having fun with that
that last scene that they had where he just kind
of when he pushed it over over the over the
ledge and kind of did this how and did this
moment that they captured and then cut cut the commercial,
so again drew the fun of that he was having
with that character.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Was kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Okay, So overall we liked it.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Me not so much.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
But it's it's not the best, but it's not the worst.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
I found some things that I enjoyed. I don't know
if I'm muna say yeah, I found some things that
I enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Okay, Well, audience, we would like you to, you know,
weigh in on this, like did you hate the episode?
Did you like it?
Speaker 5 (43:20):
Shannon enjoyed it quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I mean, there are other episodes I liked better. That
we all did. But I think for the beginning of
this show still trying to find its legs and then
like finding its legs with like a you know, dead
Man episode, But then again we don't, you know, everything
shot out a sequence. But we can't keep referring to
(43:44):
that because it's how the audience views it, not like
what are what we think it should have been or
how it should have been. It's like how they view
it and how we, you know, end up playing those
characters where it's all believable. At the end of the day,
I think that it wasn't as bad as it could
(44:05):
have been.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 8 (44:08):
It does, And again Drew's made a comment about this,
it was ninety eight I believe this episode correct and
the time that we were in a also some other
stuff that, you know, like the restrictions that were imposed
as far or what you had to navigate that early
on in all the resources and figuring out all those
moving parts to do something of this nature. We started
(44:30):
talking about stunts and special effects and blah blah blah blah.
So considering again fifth episode, first season, it was good.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, I mean, maybe it's because I never watched the
show so now I watch it, I don't know there's
an appreciation for it. I'm not in my critical stage
of the show. I'm in that like first awareness of
it where I'm like, oh, wow, you know what for
what it was us in that day and age, It's
(45:02):
really good. It's really entertaining, and and it's very creative.
Like who comes up with a dream sorcerer who can
kill women by throwing them off buildings in a dream?
Like to me that like, well that's actually creative. Like yeah,
so yeah, I'm I'm in an appreciative phase. Maybe if
(45:22):
I have to watch it three times that might change.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Well just wait till next week's wedding from how and
you will see.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
I'm not listening. I'm going in with very fresh eyes
fresh yes.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
Just.
Speaker 5 (45:40):
One.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Remember this moment.
Speaker 8 (45:43):
I enjoy where all this kind of stuff stems from
from Greek mythology. When we start talking about why am
I forgetting the guy from Morpheus and and this and
the sons of Sleep and and and his his his
brothers and his sisters and his his when we we
start theinking about there's the woman, all the hypno hypno
(46:03):
I believe is Greek, and all these gods and the
rulers of dreams and what dreams are about. And I
kind of enjoyed that connectedness as far as probably where
all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
Was sourced from.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yeah, Duran, you just keep digging real deep his homework, right,
I'm like, yeah, what he said? That sounds really good?
Can you just can you just write everything for me
for now on? I'll just repeat it.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
I could not do better than you, girl. I love
you and I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
You're just way too smart and funny.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
Thanks for hanging out with us.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
D Absolutely yeah, yeah, we love you.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
We can't wait to have you back on.
Speaker 8 (46:49):
Me too, if you guys get a chance. I don't
know if you are aware of this. Have you seen
the Obi Wan Kenobi series?
Speaker 2 (46:56):
No?
Speaker 8 (46:58):
Do you see that you're not a fan Star Wars
any of that stuff. Well, take a look and punching
doing Gregory and Darth Vader, and I'd love for you, guys,
I love for you to let me know what you think.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
Mm hmmm yeah. And I'm telling you you should have
done the synopsis.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
I should have.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Hey, why don't we give them a short time to
do it right now? But we can come full circle
and where we begin.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
It's cut and paste.
Speaker 4 (47:23):
No, we'll wait, we'll wait, come.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
On, take a shat, no pressure.
Speaker 8 (47:29):
All you got to do is just Google search it,
and you'll you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll understand Darth Vader and
that's it.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
I'm definitely going to Google search it, and then you're
you're gonna come right back on here and do whatever
they're asking you to do.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
That. Boy, was that a lot.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
I would love to well, thanks again, d for being here.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
I'll see you soon.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
I love you too. I'll talk to you guys later.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
I have a great day, you too.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
God he's such a sweet man, so smart. Thanks guys
for checking this week out. We'll see you next week.
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Speaker 4 (48:09):
Mhm
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