Jenkins and Jonez - Knicks Survive Pacers, Drake Doesn’t Survive Kendrick

The guys discuss the Knicks-Pacers game 2 (5:00), Jamal Murray’s temper tantrum (24:00), the NBA awards (28:00), RFK’s brain worms (37:30), and more Kendrick-Drake (52:20). #volume

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(01:42):
the Nicks one hundred and thirty to one hundred and
twenty one win over the Pacers that just wrapped up.
We're going to talk about where Jalen Brunson is in
the all time Jalen rankings. We're going to talk about
the NBA Awards. We're going to talk about rfk's brainworms.
I assume we're going to talk a little Drake Kendrick
as well. We got lots of good stuff to talk
about tonight, as always, Jenkins Jones hosted by le Jethro Jenkins.

(02:05):
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Speaker 1 (02:05):
John was that Bubbas had to say, you know year baby.
I can't put it in a sleep, you know, because
of what's'all. So I had at least give her a
little keaty, you know what I'm saying, dragonfied Jones.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
A Hey, Tyler, Hey, everybody again.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Guardie b a K, Mike, mother, mother, and we're predu,
We're joined, We're producers. Always by the lovely and talented
Jackson staff On. Jackson, thanks for making time for a snap.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I'm back.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Always, always appreciate you squeezing us in, Josh.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Always a pleasure, you know.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
Starting to pull up and I got invited back.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I thought I might have been scratched out the list.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
I'll be Josh did a great job with his dookie
byt of the Week too, I'll be honest with you,
he released.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
She always does a great job.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Okay, Knicks, Pacers, Nicks go up too. This has got
to be one of those ones as a Pacers fan,
I think as Lakers fans, we wore a couple of
these against the Nuggets where Pacers fans had to feel
like this was the one that they had to get
their star players on the on the bench for the
whole second quarter. You have a lead coming into the
second half and you just got offensive rebounded to death

(03:21):
by the New York Knicks. How hopeless is this for
the Pacers? How big of a win is this for
the Knicks?

Speaker 3 (03:29):
You know, I want to say I've been enjoying the
series a bit more than I thought I would, So, yeah,
I thought there was potential here for good, you know,
for the series to be good, and it hasn't really
disappointed these first two games. But yeah, but but back
to what you said, Mike, Like, if you're a Pacers fan,
of course, you know we had the crazy calls game
one and then game two, like if you if we
if you tell me before this game starts, Jalen is

(03:51):
going to miss a whole quarter. Og is going to
miss a whole quarter. You know, I would expect that
Indiana wins that, you know, and o Og went crazy
had twenty eight you know, do three quarters missed the
whole fourth quarter. But Jalen Brunson and you know those boys, man,
it's tough, bro. Like, look like I told y'all before,
after the Og trade, I thought that the Knicks were
good enough to win the East, you know, and then

(04:13):
Rand went out and I was like, Okay, I think
I'm out on that, but I don't know. I think
even this squad right now, bro, if they can just
stay somewhat healthy and not things up going into the
Easter Conference finals, man, who knows dog?

Speaker 1 (04:25):
I think I trust them better to win these closer
games than than the Celtics. I think the Celtics sent
is shit on themselves a little bit. We've seen in
the playoffs, at least in closer games, you know, So
I trust that. But I do think the Celtics is
a better team. But I mean, if you're a Pacers fan.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
Are you truly mad? You know what I mean? You
gotta see that you y'all aren't ready.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
You just don't you know, Like halla Burton is is too.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
He doesn't have.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
That dog in him yet We're like, give me the
fucking ball. We're gonna win or lose on me, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
He was seven of eleven from three to night.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah for surety something yeah, yeah, but he had twenty
two in the first half.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
And there's a port in the third quarter when the
dude was sucking at him.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, like why are you not shooting? And also, I
mean he had a layup at one point and still
pass it off. I'm like, halla bird, like, they need
the ball. The team is better when the best player
has the ball in their hands. It's for every NBA team,
you know what I mean. Finish that, you know what
I mean, You're the guy, and I think he hasn't necessarily,
you know, figured that out all the way and so like.

(05:26):
And also, I just think the Knicks are just tougher
at this point. They're just tougher. They got that dog
in them. Jalen out there hobbling, still getting buckets, still
got the ball in his hand, pushing the issue present.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
You feel me.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I just feel like, if you're a Pacers fan, you
have to see that. I mean, I'm asking a sports
fan to be reasonable. I've never been fucking reasonable, but
I mean, I don't look at the Pacers and being
and I'm like, y'all are blowing it. I'm like, y'all
just just not necessarily ready yet, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
That's how I kind of feel.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
I can see that for sure. There's not a lot
of more demoralizing ways to lose a basketball game and
not boxing out then like just getting offensive boarded to death,
and they just it's like the fourth quarter, It's like
Tibbs drops some It's like sharks where you drop some
chum in the water, Like they just move in a
different way. They're so aggressive getting getting offensive boards, and

(06:16):
it was like there was it just kind of felt
like a almost like a high school gamer. So it
was like there's it. Just thought like there's nothing the
Patriers could do. It was just like Hartenstein's gonna get
four offensive rebounds on this possession and it doesn't fucking
matter who you throw it him. He's just gonna jump
over him and get the board.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
Is this Hartenstein's moo? Is this this who he is?
You know? Is this how he normally plays that.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I'ven't watched a ton of Knicks basketball, but I've been surprised.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
And fucking White Dante.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I've always like been a fan since the VILLAINO since
like I saw him in a Villa No championship. But like, Bro,
that motherfucker is a dog whenever they need a big
shot and it leaves his hands. You know that motherfucker
Cash White?

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Any Italian, I know you love it that.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
The jersey again, fucking I know it's Nick. Come on, man,
what a culture you feel?

Speaker 4 (07:12):
I wear a Knicks, A Knicks Devincenzo jersey. Yeah, you
get a I mean ship, I got a Demagico jersey.
You know, I gotta I gotta Demadic Yankees jersey. It's
just like there's some some Italian that you just have
to show up for it, you know what I mean.
Let's talk. I want to talk about Jalen Brunson. That

(07:34):
second quarter he's out, it was really weird. I mean,
we don't really we're recording right for the game. We
don't really know what happened, but it looked like he
got hitting the nuts or something like he was grabbing
it as upper groin and then he comes out and
he came back in. They said it was a right
foot injury. Obviously he was able to play through it. Today.
We really don't know what that is ultimately gonna be

(07:54):
or turn out to be though, because we don't know
what the injury is. But I just think there's something
it's unique to sports that an entire city, and in
New York's case, it's millions of people is praying for
your health. Like that is like Greek champion, Like that's
like Achilles. Shit like that does not happen to earthly people,
you know what I mean. And I feel like that

(08:16):
puts you at another level, like in your own pantheon,
when you had millions of people praying for your health
and then you returned to lead your team to a win.
I don't know, that's like it's one of those things
that it starts putting people in a in a different category,
you know what I mean. And I don't know, we
don't have to talk about if we believe in the power,
but like I just can't imagine he comes back out,

(08:38):
the fans go absolutely fucking ape shit, and again you
just feel like it's a it's it's a special moment,
and because it's New York, it's a special moment on
a big the biggest stage possible too.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, you know, like shades of Willis reed and shit
and and it's just something that jaylen Brunson is just
adding to his resume like a being an all time
beloved nick you know what I mean. The kid is
tough as shit, man, and that's like that's like what's
most endearing about him and what what wins those fans over.
He lays it all out there, bro, That's what's what
they love the most about him. He plays New York basketball.
He's six to two, and he's fucking fearless and he's tough,

(09:11):
you know what I mean. He is your your prototypical
fucking New York nick.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
And they like actually as smold that second quarter.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I think they went in a half like what down
a little over ten or something something. Jalen comes back,
comes in and it looks like a totally different team.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
Bro, you feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Like he was he was still kind of cold and
was hobbling a little before he got warm and started
getting buckets, and just him being in the game made
that team better, you feel me. So there's there's something
just something special about him within the city, but also
that team.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Just I mean, that's that that's that coach, that's that coach.
He's he's a coach's son.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
You know, he's gonna find ways to make the team
better even if he can't, even if he's unhealthy or
can't do what he normally does, you know what I mean,
He'll figure it out.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
I mean, I do think that's sort of we talked.
Josh expressed as a Knicks fan how much confidence he
has in the Knicks Against the Pacers, Obviously he's been
proven correct thus far. I do think that concern with
the Knicks is the concern with all of Tom Thibodeau's team,
which is just you have Josh Harp played forty eight
minutes tonight, you had I think there are two other
starters in forty minutes. Jalen Brunson miss an entire quarter

(10:12):
of the game and still played thirty two minutes tonight injured.
So it's that is always gonna be the concern because
there just is the chance, and I don't think it's
gonna happen to this next team. I mean, they're really
they're all in great shape, they're all played, they all
look great in the fourth quarter. Like sus they're winning
all the hustle shit in the fourth quarter. But that
is just always going to be the concern is can

(10:32):
you keep the gas pedal all the way down minutes wise?
I mean, like I said, their star player missed a
whole quarter of the game today, they had two players
off the bench effectively one play twenty eight minutes, one
play twenty It's just such a short rotation. There's so
many minutes for the starters, and that to me is
ultimately that's It's just the only thing about the Knicks
that still worries me, because otherwise it does look like

(10:54):
they get through this series easily, and then it'll be
an interesting matchup with the Celtics.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Obvius.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
One of my favorite memes ever is that one from
Breaking Bad where Jesse Pinkman is.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Like he can't keep getting away with this?

Speaker 7 (11:07):
Yeah, right, yeah, And I feel like that's how I
feel about Jalen Brunson, first of all, in the fourth quarter,
Like how does he do it? He just gets clutch
bucket after clutchbucket at six to two. It's insane. And
to your point, Mike, I kind of feel like the
Knicks team is a little bit of like they can't
keep getting away with this. How is Josh Hart playing
forty eight minutes every night?

Speaker 5 (11:24):
How is this possible? Last game too?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
How is it possible?

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Like?

Speaker 7 (11:27):
I don't know, I mean, when was the last time
we saw an important physical like energy based player played
forty eight minutes a game consistently?

Speaker 3 (11:40):
I don't know if if you look at the minutes
that OG has recently tally we can start back at UH.
Let me see game UH April twenty eighth, first Philly.
He played forty seven minutes that game. April thirty first, Philly,
he paid fifty minutes that game. That game thing went
to ot May second against Philly, he played forty five minutes.

(12:02):
Game one versus Indiana, he played forty two minutes, and
then he played twenty eight minutes and three quarters tonight, Like,
I mean, granted, yes, the rotations are short, but I mean,
that guy on the sidelines, he doesn't have a reputation
that grants him the benefit of the doubt here either,
you know.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
So yeah, one hundred percent. I don't know. It's gonna
be interesting. There are so much fun to watch, especially
in the garden. I love the fuck. I'm just such
a fan of the fuck you Reggie chance we get
whenever Reggie Miller's in the garden, y'all are that tonight?

Speaker 8 (12:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, too minutes left in the game. You could be
celebrating going up to, Oh, game looks good, and you
have the whole garden going fuck you Reggie.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
That's real hate, bro, you know's say that's real petty,
we'd be pretending, nigga, you feel me? That's that kid,
Drake hate niggas. That's forever brother, I'll see you in
the next life. You change your name. Niggas fuck that nigga.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Too, thirty years right there, that goes back then in
nineteen ninety three out this motfucker.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
You know, I get it too, though, I get it
though he earned that hate. You feel me.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
He got a revel than that, you know what I mean?
That's respect actually in that situation.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
It's so funny because that, like the TNT producers have
clearly made the decision either at their own behest or
because of Reggie's request, Like they're clearly not making a
big deal out of it. But it's like, I just
want a live reaction shot of his face every time
they start chatting it, because it's such a weird thing
to be a broadcaster paying attention to the game and
then have twenty five thousand people chatting fuck you right

(13:30):
behind him.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Honestly, if I was Reggie Miller, I'd probably smile.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
They remember probably he's he's one of those he's one.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Of those dudes that we don't talk about Reggie, like
we should probably talk about Reggie. Okay, Okay, well for
sure said we don't, you know what I mean, Like,
I mean, what is a shoot it to I.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
He got, he got, he got who? You know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Like you know what I'm saying, Like we don't but that,
but the Knicks remember, so I would.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I would love that.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
You know what I'm saying. I'm stamped here. Nigga's walk
me forever.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I'm leaving.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Hep you ready?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
You know me lead?

Speaker 5 (14:06):
I love that you feel me. That's respect.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Like I said, let's talk about Jalen Brunson's place in history.
It might feel like it's early to do that, but
I would remind you that Jalen is the rare name
where we kind of people our age have seen almost
the entire arc of the existence of that name. And
obviously at this point since Jalen Rose's mom conjured it

(14:33):
out of the air, at this point there are so
many professional athletes named Jalen. But it's also a new name.
So I'm curious, where do you see Jalen Brunson falling
on the all time Jalen power rankings? Is he over
Jalen Hurts? Is he over Jalen Rose, who obviously deserves

(14:56):
a large amount of consideration as a pioneer name? Bearab,
where do you have Jalen Brunson Tyler.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
No One's, no one's ever gonna surpass Jayalen row was
on the all time Jayleen Power rankers. For one, he's
the originator and two he was the fucking heart and
so in the mouthpiece of the coolest basketball team I've
ever seen, you know what I mean. So, so Jalen
is certified as the Jaalen Goat. He started all this
ship and you don't know, I said, like he's a
cultural legend as well. You know, I was doing some
research on Jalen's and it's like a lot of quantity,

(15:24):
not really a lot of quality there though, you know.
It's like right like like you know, there's Jalen Hurts,
there's jay you know, Jayalen Ramsey. He deserves some much
on this because there was a time, you know, a
few years he was doing this cornerback in the world.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I'll give him that.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
The mustache though he got a drop when he went
bare face when he turned into you know, officer Hurts.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
We might have to Oh no, no, no, no, I'm talking
about Jayleen Ramsey.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
You know what I'm saying. Have you said Jaalen Hurts
and Jurny rams you.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Know, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, En, I might put Jayleen
Ramsey over Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I might, I'm I.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Mean for now, Yeah, I can see that for sure.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, I think Jalen hurt tess a chance to surpass him, perhaps,
But at this Pointent I cast my boat with Ramsey,
and then you know there's Jalen Brown.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I might put Jalen Preston number two, maybe prisoner of
the moment ship.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
But like I said, he's gonna go down as one
of the most beloved knicks of all time. You know,
he's a fucking crazy I don't know if anyone has
been playing better than these playoffs so far than Jaylen
Brust like you never do.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
The ye had four.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
I mean, people were talking about Edwards being the best
best player in the playoffs, and I mean I wouldn't
argue that, but I mean a man has got forty
with four games in a row.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, like, how do
you not say that's the best player, right?

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Right?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
No, it's it's it's eye test where you know that
he's not a better player than than. But like I said,
I don't think anyone's having a better postseason. I'm not
saying he's the best player.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
If he wins the championship this year, you don't put
him over Jaylen Rose. If the Celtics and they knockoff.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
He'll he'll never be over Jalen ro always be for they.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
If he wins the next six NBA championships, he's not
over Jaylor.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Rose because Jalen started the whole Jalen ship.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Man.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
You know, there's that about five, Bro, that's that's forever. Yeah,
you know what I mean, that's a that's that's that's different.
So Jaylen number one in New York. Number one hit
the ceiling.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Jayalen Rose is Jalen Brons just hit the ceiling. He's
gotten up to number two and nothing he can do
will put him at number one.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
That's it, Bro's and there's nothing wrong with second place here.
You know, your second to the originator of all this ship?

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Who was the first Mike? It was probably it was
probably an angel or some ship. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Is that a bibical day? Is it a biblical day? Probably? Yeah,
like it should be.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's archangeln.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Be all of the season H and A's and that
motherfucker that ship.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yeah, John's biblical too, right, that's ah yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's a yeah, yeah, that's that's a.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
That's a there's I think there's a there's a book
in the Bible, John, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
I've read It's a big one. Book of John's a
big one.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Okay, okay, I forgot nigg I read that my bucker twice.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
I forgot that rough.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
It was a list of grains, you know what I mean.
There's like a you know, a section where they're listing
all the different types of grains in the Old Testament.
I was like, I'm checking out. I'll read the rest
of this, but this is not gonna stick.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
I mean I was. I was bro like I was
in that ship.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
You feel me? Like, so yeah, I was just I wasn't.
I didn't sit down and read the ship like I
read the actual book. I read that twice over twenty years.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
You know what I mean? You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Do you?

Speaker 5 (18:40):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Well we have to talk about it. Do you want
to talk about og and Anobi's face?

Speaker 5 (18:44):
Do we have to? I feel kind of bad. He's
so young. I don't want him. I don't want to
tell him he was like a coal miner. You know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
You tell you like you tell a mean joke in
the coal mine. Brother, I don't want to telling like
a Pittsburgh steealer. Bro Let's move on. He seemed like
a nice young fellow, you know what I mean. Come on,
he did nothing nobody.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
All right, Okay, let's talk about the temper tantrum that
Jamal Murray threw at the end of Game two of
the Nuggets getting thumped out by the Timberwolves. This man
really threw a heat pack, Like what what the fuck?
First of all, Clint Parks had a hilarious tweet on tour.
He said because everyone was I mean not everyone was surprised,

(19:35):
but it was obviously notable that the NBA did not
suspend him. And Clint park says that his punishment is
having to play in Game three against against the Timberwolves.
That's what the punishment is. It would have been letting
him off the hook, to let him sit for Game three.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, just just just not a good you know, last
few days for light skin Canadians and scenes, you know,
and you.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Know, Drizzy Drake.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
But yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised that he wouldn't
suspending honestly don't want him suspend it.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
And it's not on something.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Oh, the NBA is being favorites to, you know, the Nuggets,
trying to get them in the finals and have them
win it all and all that. And I feel like
if we reached the point where y'all think that the
NBA is rigging shit for the Nuggets, like I think
we might need to reel it back in, you know.
And I also and I also think like I think
these Wolves are legit enough to beat these this team
at full strength, and I don't want any excuses if

(20:27):
that does indeed happen, you know.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I mean, I don't see how they don't beat them,
you feel what I'm saying, Like, and I don't think
they would rig them to beat the future of the
NBA for fucking Jamal Merritt Burray, Like, I don't.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
I don't see that. But uh, I mean I get
why he would have a fucking fit. Did you see
that defense.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
I'd have a fucking fit too, you know, he was
getting fucking I mean, it's it's.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Everywhere he turned, you know what I'm saying, So I get, I.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Mean, it's as soon as he crossed half court.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
But that man, I mean that it's it looks like
it was frustrating to play basketball as a Denver nugget. Yeah,
so I get I get why he would feel that way.
It's just it's silly. But yeah, I mean, but also,
everybody knew Denver was gonna win the CHIP until this
young buck Edwards comes in here and is fucking talking
a shit, feeling himself, dogging the ass, you know what

(21:20):
I mean, And like they're getting cooked on the defensive end.
It has to be a shot gee, Like they couldn't
have seen this coming. Nobody saw this coming. I mean
we didn't we at the end of last sears, who
said I.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
Think these timber Wolves got a shot? Yeah, shot right right?
Oh in two in Denver.

Speaker 9 (21:40):
I'll be frustrating as fuck too, when you're supposed to
run it back.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
Shit.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
The Timberwolves have won their six playoff games because they're
six and oh still by twenty five points, twelve point
seventeen points. They closed the Suns out by six, and
then they won by seven. Game one in Denver, huge win,
and then a game they won by twenty six points.
They're missing the defensive player of the year and they
gave up eighty points the season low to win that

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game by twenty six When when.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Is the last time you've seen a team as good
as Denver look that discombobulated like the Lakes, the playing
the numbers. No, that's not even We're talking about good teams,
not teams. We want to be good, actual, real life
good teams, you know what I mean, Like a team
that we thought was probably gonna win a chip or

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at least make it through the West.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yeah, I mean said the Heat have done that to
the Celtics sum you know what I mean, Like for
sure over the year where you're just like, what the
fuck is going on? But not to this extent where
I mean, I just think we all we talked about
it throughout the Lakers and first of all, by the way,
does this start to make you rethink what we thought
about the Lakers a little bit? Because I was for
sure one of those people that was like, tough matchup,

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nothing you can do with the Nuggets. They might have
been able to beat anyone else in the West.

Speaker 10 (23:00):
And lied to ourselves that what I'm saying, timble timbles
will be up to old against the Lakers right now,
to dog, no question.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
I don't think Game one would have been by seven.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
We wouldn't have won no games with that, mother.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
How we gonna be?

Speaker 4 (23:19):
We could have barely hitered.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
Offense with these niggas, Bro, the way they playing defense.
Can't you trying to get postfees in Turnover City? Fucked that?

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
I'm glad we lost niggas, thank you. How ugly wouldn't
have gotten if we had to play these niggas.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Bro, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
I had to turn the TV off and lie to
the people like I watched the rest.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
Of the game.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Nigga, thank god we lost me, bro, you feel me?
God knew glad he did.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
All right, Let's talk NBA wards Uh, no surprises all
the way around. We knew who Rookie of the Year
was going to be. We knew who the Defensive Player
of the Year was going to be. Jokic MVP for
the third time.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Road.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Did you see the video of Jokic's reaction to the announcement.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
I see yay.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
That's literally like he like shook his wrists like that,
like the way that the way that like when the
parking spot is open closer to Trader Joe's than I'm
thinking like that was his reaction to becoming the ninth
ever player to win three MVPs.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Fucking god, I'll tell you what, Hey, you better start
caring about this motherfucker series. I know that's you know,
your cute little bit there, but hey, you got a
lot to fucking dog. These motherfuckers ain't playing with you.
But yeah, but but but yeah, you know sha sha
yolks winning MVP. I think they got it right. I
saw a stat that said that this is the first
time in NBA history where a number where eighteen that
was the number one seed in the West, that had

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a thirty point per game score where that guy did
not win the MVP since nineteen sixty.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Seven with Rick Barry.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
So I mean, you know, Shay like checked all the
all the boxes of the guy who usually does whin MVP. Like,
if you take a team that wasn't the best team,
that didn't have the best record in the league last season,
and you make them the team with the best record
in the league this season, and you're the best player
on there, and you're a thirty point per game guy, yeah,
you usually those guys usually run away with the MVP.
But but Jokic is he's he's generational, bro, He's he's

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putting on you know he is. He is chiseling out
a career that is going to go down as one
of the greatest.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
So so I ain't mad at it.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
I do hate it for sha though, Bro, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Because if not this year, then't win, you know.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Then win, right, you feel me? And also what more
he could have literally done? He couldn't have done anything better.
He had an incredible fucking season, you know what I mean.
He did exactly what he was supposed to do, and
there was just a market. Joker exists the better player.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Would you agree that it's the market? I mean, if
if he did all that with the one seed and
it's in New Yorker's in la is in Boston, he's MVP, correct.
I mean that's like the only thing he could have
done is not be on the thunder.

Speaker 5 (26:02):
Which is not small market though small market.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
But which is not like they won the championship. So
but I had the same thought as you, man, It's
like what else could they? Like, what was he missing
on the resume? They were the one seed? Like that's
an argument against against Wemby. Personally, I hate all that shit. Dog,
I'm sorry. If you're the best defensive player in the league,
that's what that award is named. It's not the it's

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not the defensive player of the year on a playoff team,
it's the defensive player of the year. If you're doubling
up the guy statistically who wins DPO Y and your
team fucking sucks, why do I give a fuck about
the Like, I just don't really understand that. You know,
the playoff seeding is the reward for a team being good.
That should not be what individual awards are decided on.
And to me, like, if you could average eighty points

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a game on an NBA team and somehow they finished
fifteenth in the conference, you should be the MVP. You're
clearly the most valuable, Like, you know what I mean.
I just I don't really get all that So that
I was more annoyed about the Wenby thing, even knowing
it was gonna come, because it's just like, what are
you really basing this on? That he was valuable to
a better team, But was he a better defender than Wenby?

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And I don't I just personally don't believe that and
it's I'm a go beart defender on the situation of
missing the game for his kid to be born. But
when you miss a game and your team has their
best defensive game of this season, you can't tell me
it's like he's the most irreplaceable part of that defensive team. Like,
you know, he's a great defender. But Wemby did shit

(27:35):
we'd never seen before. So I don't know. All that
shit bugs me. But how do you not give it
to Shae as the one seed? But then you go
with this dude's team is too bad. He's not even
really eligible for anyone to vote for him for this word.
I just don't understand the logic of that.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, I don't think there's a more valuable player on
a team than Shae.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
I think Jolker's just that much of a better player. Yeah,
you can't.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
You can't look at that roster Okac and see I
think like they're even in the closer the playoffs if
they don't have Shaye, right.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
You know what I mean? Without Shade, they're nothing.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
And he didn't get up to the sixth seed.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
He got them to the number one sea.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
I don't think there's a more valuable player in the
league to a team than Shae. I think Jokers just
a much better basketball player and that's what got him
for him.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
But I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm I'm honestly not
mad at the defensive Player of the Year going Thrudy
because you know, I feel like.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
They depended on the best offensive team in the league.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, they for sure took a leap this season on
the defensive end, you know what, I mean, a huge
leap where But like I said, it, finally the god
Bear trade finally made sense this season, you know. So,
so yeah, I'm not mad at him getting in Womoby's
gonna have his era. He's gonna have his era. He's
gonna get five or six of these motherfuckers, dog, I
promise you that. I mean, the kid came in as
a rookie averaging three point six blocks per game and

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then and that stat doesn't even tell the whole story
because he averaged about eleven hell dolls per game with motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Just just make a business decision, circle.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Back, you know, Well, that's a fact. And that's that's
where like blocks are kind of similar to interceptions. It's
a little bit of a misleading stat If you affect
a game so much that a player on a fast
break who's three steps in front of you decides he's
not going to attempt a shot, that that is an
impact on the game that we don't have a stat
that quantifies that. All we know is that there's not
really certainly no rookies who've had that effect. You know,

(29:25):
mister business decision, most your business decision. That's my nicknaque
for him. Like you have dudes that are all NBA players, Like,
I'm not gonna try this fast break dunk because this
fucking Aliens.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
Reads the line and punch my ship, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Anyway, all right, what do you guys? Man? I really
wanted some sort of anything out of that fucking Celtics series.
That's going to be the most boring shit possible. Are
you just you must just be the smuggest asshole in
the Look at Jackson right now?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
What do you want to say? Stress free? Over there?

Speaker 7 (30:03):
They'll probably lose Game three because they just are being
stupid for twenty four forty eight minutes.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Do you know what the line is for Game two?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
I don't actually can I guess? Fourteen?

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Thirteen and a half. What do you say, Tyler, I'd
say thirteen and a half.

Speaker 6 (30:17):
I think it was around there in game one, I'm
gonna say, I'm gonna say fifteen.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
It's thirteen and a half. Wow, Bookmaker Jones, that's eerie, bro.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Why'd you know that?

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Hey man knows ball? The man knows ball. And that's
the line predictions book to you by drafting.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
Can we clip that? That's an organic mention right there?

Speaker 2 (30:43):
You know, extra points?

Speaker 5 (30:45):
God damn.

Speaker 7 (30:46):
But yeah, I mean I think I still think it'll
probably five, just because they'll Donald Mitchell probably put up
forty four in a game that the Celtics are cold,
and cast will take one and we'll be on the next.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Can you create a scenario in your head that you're
concerned about for this series?

Speaker 7 (31:01):
Yeah, I mean I suppose if they lose tomorrow. I
suppose if they lose tomorrow, I'll be like, well, that's
I don't even know. I probably wouldn't be concerned.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
I just don't see the caves.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, they got us.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
We said it at the start.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
They got an absolutely insane draw, just an insane draw
with the heat, Jimmy being hurt, and now Donovan and
the Donovan Mitchells.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, like, when have you ever been that comfortable as
a sports fan a game on?

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Really?

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Oh okay, Kobe and Shack was a great time to
be a sports fan, bro, you know, I mean never
experienced anything like that. They were getting stressed in Series two,
but that was the bro. That was like twenty years
pre Twitter doing the crying laughing emoji face in people's

(31:56):
felt like, I mean, we had one kid we knew
who was a Kings fan, and it was like, you
think they weren't gonna fucking beat the Kings. I mean
then they had to do some crazy shit to beat them,
and it was still like fun. You thought the Sacramento
Kings were gonna beat Like that was just a three
straight years of being the most obnoxious Twitter troll in
the world. But with no, it's the it's the car

(32:18):
flag era of being a Lakers fan. That's the car
flag era.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
When they lost to the Sixers in Game one, were
they're any nerves?

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Yeah there was, yes, Yeah, there were no I had
you thought.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Alan Iverson could beat that team by himself.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
But then like a quarter in the Game two, You're.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Like, okay, because McKee was the second best player on
that team, right, Aaron McKee, Right, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Yeah, I think I just think and as greate as
Kobe was, And obviously they had the role players and shiit,
but rooting for prime Shack on your favorite basketball team
is like, I wish everyone got to Everyone should get
a vr headset with that experience. It was the greatest
thing in the fucking world.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
Bro, Like you just were imagine.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
I mean, he just you know, because his footwork was
so good, He's so fast in the playoffs when he
was working hard, he was so strong. He's played himself
into shape by the time the playoffs start, obviously, and
guys are just flying off of him, all NBA defenders
into the third row. Like it was just like, I
don't know, it was it was like having it was
like being bullied at school and it turns out your

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dad as Superman or something, you know what I mean.
It just was like, oh, here he comes. All right,
that's all the basketball stuff we got. You guys want
to talk about the fact that a presidential candidate in
the United States of America revealed today that he had
a parasitic brain worm in his brain and it ate

(33:43):
part his fucking brain. Bro, what the fuck is going on?

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Then he say that motherfucker is just still there, just dead,
just like following or some shit, because.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
I don't think they can pull it out.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Is okay? I'm not familiar with this at all. What
is this true? Or is he tweaking?

Speaker 4 (34:04):
No? Ill, If he's making it up, I would really
have to question why, what the motivation would be there?
This would be the most type of contriac shit ever
if he makes it up. Yeah, his campaign announced h today.
It's they said that the worm that ate part of

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his brain will not affect his ability to serve as president.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
Rfk J has crazy. That's a movie statement. That's that's
that's a movie. That's a dollar movie state, You know
what I mean? That's movie. Do you feel me? That's
a tool?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Like like that's like you feel me that it should
never be said in real life?

Speaker 5 (34:47):
Insane?

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:49):
How the fun does a worm even get to your brain?

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Dog?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
I've never heard of such.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
Let's see port of like heartworms and all that type
of ship, but a brain brainworm.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Here's let me look at rea. Let me read this
From a Vanity Fair story, The New York Times revealed
Wednesday that in twenty twelve Divorced deposition, Kennedy said that
two years prior, he was experiencing such severe memory loss
and mental fogginess that a friend worried he had a
brain tumor. After Kennedy underwent brain scans, several doctors concluded
that a dark spot was a tumor, and he was

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scheduled for procedure at Duke University. Before he departed, Kennedy
got a call from a doctor who had come to
a different conclusion, which was that the dark spot was
not a tumor but a dead parasite. The abnormality on
the scan, Kennedy said in the deposition, was caused by
a worm that got into my brain and ate a

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portion of it and then died. How How did the
worm give Kennedy's brain infection?

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Especially died Now, I'd be kind of fine, like damn
my brain that week and I'll be kind of you know,
but like you know, how to get into his to.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Infectious disease specialists and neurosurgeons who have not treated Kennedy
told The Times that the worm was likely a pork
tapeworm larvae. Oh, I don't want to know about this
also I regret reading.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
This, okay, but how did it get in his brain?
How did it get.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Pray gets neurosista sycosis by swallowing microscopic eggs passed in
the feces of a person who has an intestinal pork tapeworm.
For example, a person eats undercooked infected pork and gets
a tapeworm infection in the intestines, she passes tapework tapeworm
eggs in her feces. If she doesn't wash her hands

(36:43):
properly after using the bathroom, she may contaminate food or
services with feces containing these eggs, these eggs. Maybe wash
his hands, bro, this is worse than the brain.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
So this man just told to see without his pork
and shipping and that white fear that says, how are
you equipped to lead this country?

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (37:05):
There's just so many bad decisions there.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Besides, you know, just who you are, the entire fucking
essence of fucking RFK.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
I feel like some Illuminati shiit nigga. Yeah, you know
what I mean eating raw pork meat.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
You know what I mean is that like the you know,
that's how you get in Yeah, how you feel.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
The beat?

Speaker 8 (37:26):
Thet there's a marble shop nigga going hem with this
ship right now.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Do you feel me?

Speaker 5 (37:33):
You feel connect a whole bunch of DoD sig He felshed, Hey,
tomorrow gonna be. I got my haircuting tomorrow too. I
can't wait to pull up. You feel me?

Speaker 4 (37:44):
Let your barber find out that a Jewish person orange
owns that pork farm, bro, and.

Speaker 8 (38:00):
You, oh, bro, all right, that shit crazy.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
I thought. I was like, oh, he's like a rich dude.
He's probably like in the wrong river, you know what
I mean, Like he was probably a river in the
Amazon or some ship that had has it Like, no,
he just was dooding.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
And the motherfucker just ate a pink pork chop and
took a ship and ain't washed his hands, like this
is what happened here.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Why did he even tell us that you know too.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
Much about racist niggas, Mike, Bro, that's around and that's
about a while ignorant shit to be saying. Bro, did
you you go to black barbershops? That's crazy?

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Yeah, all right, well let's move on. Sh I would
say this, it's bad to obviously eat uncooked pork poop,
not wipe your hands and then cook food and then
eat that food. This is a harsh penalty for that.
Having a worm in your brain that's eating your brain,

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that's a harsh penalty. Wash your hands, kids, It sounds
like a Boogeyman story. If you don't wash your hands,
you're gonna get a worm in your brain to eat
your brains. It makes your doctors think you got cancer
in your brain. Like it sounds like something you'd threaten
an eleven year old with, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (39:35):
In fact, also, don't eat raw pork.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Let's start with that too, Like, let's let's you know
raw pork, wash your hands.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
These are all things that probably should have been done.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
You can't eat raw pork, right, Like that's a yeah,
that ain't that? Ain't the move, bro? Like this ain't seafood,
my nigga move smooth gee, try to think of like
there's no there's no raw pork dish I've ever eaten.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Bro, you can't eat that shit. You'll get that, you know,
all types of shit dum.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Also it's a shorty bro, Like I don't know, Tyler,
did you ever eat well eat done steaks?

Speaker 5 (40:10):
What? What did hetro? That's what? That's what he ate.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
It's okay, bro, That's why I'm saying a barb barbershop
nigga finel to go say some.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
Real dumb ass shit real soon, including port.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
But but I mean, like Tyler, did you ever eat
like how long did it.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
Take you to get away from well done meat?

Speaker 3 (40:27):
My pops was a medium steak guy his whole life.
My mama was always well wow.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
My mom was always well done.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
And and I didn't try like a medium steak till
I was like twelve or thirteen, and my pops put
me on game right like yeah, you know, I feel
like that's definitely a thing black parents do, where even
like our steak, the kids gonna eat their steak well done.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
You know what I'm saying, Bro, It was.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I remember being a kid and motherfuckers would ask me
how I'm like, niggas get it anything other than well done?
That's crazy, you feel me? And then as we get older,
like it's like, bro, like I'm eating this, I'm eating
his boot. This It tastes like a.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
Timberlin you know.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
I mean, probably they don't get it get a cooked
well but like dog, I can't imagine like raw pork
if that's the way they cook it, Nigga, I'm not
there yet.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
You feel me like not even medium.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Like I love bacon so much, but uncooked bacon is nasty.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
Like the texture.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Yeah, there are times when I look at rass steak
and I'm like, I could see what would be appealing
about this to a wolf? You know what I mean.
It's like this, like I don't want to bite into it,
but I could see you know what I mean, Like
it feels like a steak. Uncooked bacon or port does
not feel even like meat almost. It's it's like you
gotta apply some playing bro some heat.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
Don't have motherfuckers man.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
Uh. My grandma got rest her soul and she was
an incredible cook of Italian food. But she would make
steak in the toaster oven was how she cooked her steak.
And so it was it was beyond well done. It
was very well done. It was exceptionally well done.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
Way way way way.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
She was at the toaster of it at like four
hundred or whatever and put the steak in there on
a little thing with some tinfoil on it, and she
would bring it out and they were like, my, they
were they were Italian they gripped during their depression all
this other ship. So they were like, he's growing, we
have to give him. Like I would go over there
and they were just like bam theyam basically but yeah,

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but the further So the first time my mom cooked
steak medium rare was like the gates of heaven open.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
I bavily remember the first time I had a piece
of my dad's medium steak. I was like, holy shit.
I was like, you're telling me that steak doesn't taste
like wallets. It's not supposed to test, not how I
was supposed to taste. I was like life changes.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
That I tooked about the first time I could the
steak right in college. No, I'll tell you about that.
Oh I thought, I thought I've been told y'all. I didn't.
I can't. I couldn't cook at all. I just learned
how to cook like two years ago. Brother.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
If I'm keeping it thousand, you know what I'm saying,
somebody was born and I figured it out, you know
what I mean? Dog? The first time have to say,
I had food stamps. So I'm like, you know, I'm
going crazy, Like I'm like I'm getting you know, uh
what what's that spicy mustard?

Speaker 5 (43:12):
What's it called? Grateful Pa? You know I'm getting on
that shit. I bought me a little strip steak. I
thought I was doing my thing. You feel me.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
I'm like, let me put this on three point fifty
and make it for twenty minutes.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
Got pulled that.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Bitch out, was like, like, what the fuck is this?

Speaker 5 (43:31):
It was? It was horrible. I'm trying to cut through
that shit problem. I didn't know anything. I told my dad.
I'm like, I tried to get the steak. I caught
him up. He was like, what did you do?

Speaker 4 (43:41):
You know?

Speaker 1 (43:42):
After he laughed for fucking ten minutes and clown the
shit out of me and disrespected my ass, then he
told me, like what I should be doing?

Speaker 5 (43:48):
But yeah, bro, like crazy, had no idea what I
was doing.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
This is a true story. I know. I do not
generally tell this story because I don't like making fun
of my grandma. But the one time, the one time
everyone in my family knows the story. I went over
to her house and my brother very politely, was like,
what if you did it at like three hundred instead
of one and fifty, And she pulled the steak out

(44:14):
and it was like juicy. It was like it wasn't
medium rare, I like medium miresteak. It was probably like medium.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
Well, but it liked medium rare. Wow.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
But it was so much juicier and tastier that I
was like scarfing it down. Or I was like thirteen,
fourteen years old something like that, eating like a fucking
you know, like teenagers eat just the whole steak up.
I started choking. I didn't chew a piece of meat enough,

(44:40):
and I was like full on, like couldn't like turning purple.
And my grandma, God rest her soul was like five
foot one, grew up, she malnourished in the fucking depression.
She's trying to give me the heimlich but she was
it was like I couldn't even feel it. My brother,
who was like nine at the time, but he was

(45:01):
a big, burly nine year old, knocked my grandma out
of the way, gave me the heimlick so hard he
broke my rib.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
That's what you yeah, right, yep?

Speaker 4 (45:11):
And I booth the steak up. And then that's the
only reason I'm still here is because my brother.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
Nigga. Could you ever bully him after that?

Speaker 4 (45:20):
Oh? Hell yeah? I bullied him that light. Are you
kidding me?

Speaker 5 (45:26):
Life?

Speaker 4 (45:27):
Yeah, you must really love me.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
And he really your brother would have let me die.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Fuck nigga, that's craziest, head, Like I would have given
you the heimlick.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
Right, you love me, You broke a rim.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
You loved me so much.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
Brother.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Goddamn, your brother was supposed to wear a boot. Your
brother was supposed to be your boot wearing motherfucker. He
earned it, right, dog Ma, that's crazy, that's crazy. I'm
happy he did that too, broke down. Yeah, what was
your granddad?

Speaker 8 (46:01):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (46:01):
He wasn't home. I don't know. He was probably playing golf.
My grandpa played golf most of the time he played.
He played a lot of golf. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
a fact. All right. Before we get out of here,
we gotta clean up a little bit more on the
We used to call it the Drake Kendrick segment, and

(46:23):
now I think we call it the Kendrick Drake segment.
But man, the Internet is really opinionated about this. Drake
Guy Jenkinson Jones twitter feed has been really clogged up
for the last week or so. Has anything happened to
change anyone's there's no new music out, has anything happened
to change either of your feelings about anything? And what
do you think of the response to very emotional response.

(46:47):
I mean, I'm suggesting that this affects Drake's legacy.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
I mean, I think I think the biggest takeaway as
as the day's progressing, we're not getting any new music
and it's still buzzing, is this shit ain't going away?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yuh, this shit is not going away.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
We've reached the point now where it's like the means
are happening where we've got animators making funny ass clips
of of this shit, and it's like it's it's kind
of reminiscent to when you know, he turned Meek Miller
to a lafastock on the internet during that battle, Kendrick
Meek Mill, this dude, bro Like, we saw that there
was a restler at ae W when they had a

(47:23):
show in Canada, and he cracked a joke about how
he was going to be another restler's ass the way
Kendrick beat Drake and the crowd went wild in Canada.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
You know, like, bro Like, I said, as time.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Keeps going on and we haven't gotten any music, and
this shit it just keeps getting bigger and bigger, it's
not going away.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
My my wife showed me a picture of her homegirl
who lives in Toronto, and there was a sign outside
of a bar to say, Kendrick one damn in Toronto.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
Like, bro, you feel me?

Speaker 1 (47:53):
And I just this is the thing with me, like
me saying this affects his legacy, Like we talked about
this in the group chat, like Jay.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
Niggas lose beats beefs. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
But when you're turned into a laughing stock, I since
shaw a video of a nun dancing a BBL drizzy nigga.
The entire world is laughing at this nigga. Bro, he
came out of this beef looking like a culture voster.
That his whole you know what I'm saying, his whole

(48:24):
way of being as a facade, you know what I mean.
They're dropping videos like critic didn't have to give context
a po because everybody was dropping videos of Kendrick on
dates with folks talking about the people who he mimics.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
Now who imitates? Now?

Speaker 1 (48:38):
You know what I mean, We're ignorant for speaking in
a particular way. Like it's looking real nasty for me.
I don't think I've seen this since like joh Rule fifty,
We're like you made a nigga look where it's low
key and boode. When you're playing a song you were
just dancing to two weeks prior. They're boing Drake songs

(49:00):
in the club like you made a laughing stock in
front of the world. I haven't seen this in a
long time, So that's why I say it affects his
you know, his legacy. Also, when you've seen him go
up against you know, godamn sees he's got dude like
push the t. Did he win anything? You know what
I'm saying, he had He lied talking about I got

(49:20):
this crazy ass fucking you know song that's gonna I
can't even drop its too crazy, you know he did,
And he did a similar thing with this. He's gotten
circles wrapped around him against real ones. You feel me, Like,
if you're getting embarrassed against the best rappers, like it's
it's one thing losing getting embarrassed, bro, that affects your
legacy instead of looking like a rapper that makes pop

(49:44):
music popular music.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
You like a pop star that you know just happens
to rap nigga.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
You feel me because when it's time to rap and
bar up, you getting smoked, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (49:53):
So that's why I met with it. And I think,
like yo, I said, up, fuck out the numbers.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Like it's cool in music and and and and record
books and all that ship, But when the real ones
are talking rap, the motherfuckers that he wants to respect him,
they'll remember this ship and they're gonna be the one saying,
I don't know if he got smoked like this gets
push the T and Kendrick. In every way he lost,
he didn't make the best song. He wasn't funnier, you

(50:19):
know what I mean, Like like he didn't have.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
The best balls, number, didn't the.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Best numbers, he didn'tknew the best numbers in every way
he lost. And I think this is kind of like
the reason I say to affect his career too, because
Drake is on the down you know what I'm saying,
Like he's he's on the down side of his career.
You know, he's going he's not making his hit slaps,
he sh ain't slapping as much, he's not as popping
as much.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
I don't think if that's it, I said, I don't
even think that's an insult either like he was No, No,
was just inevitably there was years.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
There was years when like every I mean when I
was listen to radio, every other song it felt like
Drake was featured or it was a Drake song. You
know that there wasn't very very for people that have
reached the as big as he is, if anybody, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
But like he's on the down side.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Where shit, oh his music don't really move people as much,
you know what I mean, So like you don't have
the opportunity to you know, you know how you lost
your fastball a little bit so and and it's and
you have to make up for this type of a
loss without the fastball.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
I don't know, Gee, it's you know, like you said,
it's for sure a legacy altering moment for Drake. We'll
see if it affects his success or his bottom line.
Will see how how how we'll see how how the
fans are going to stick beside him. But as far
as like discussions about you wanting to be a god

(51:39):
mn seal about you wanted to be someone who who
who got that pen working of you, wanted to be
a guy who gets in the trenches against Busy.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
No, you're not.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
You are not one of them, you know, because not
only did you take me, because you know, like you said,
you know, jay Z took a loss. Yeah, plenty of
all time greats have a loss on their resume once
you but you know, like that one loss is like, okay,
shit happens. You can't win them all. But when you
get two high profile losses, right like that, shift shit

(52:09):
from shit happens to you. Bro, You're just not built
like this. It's the same for you. You just aren't built,
you know, to get into trenches in battle. You're not
that guy. And the thing is that he didn't just
lose to Push Your Tea and Kenjick. He got embarrassed
by both of them.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
And that's the thing. That's the thing Like Jay lost,
he got embarrassed. There's a big difference there, you feel me.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Yeah, And it's so funny because the two losses just
illustrate just such a poignant point of Bro, you do
not belong in the same ring with us, you know
what I mean? With With with Push your t it's like, no,
I really do this, You're a pop star, stay over there.
Same shit with Kenjack Kenjuck's like, no, motherfucker, I'm huge,

(52:52):
I'm the second biggest rapper in the world, but I'm
still I still get busy with this shit.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
You're not like me either, bro, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Like that's been like the biggest takeaway from these els
that he took from Pushing Kendrick. It's like, you're just
not them, no, and you want to be them. You
like I said, you go to r L battles, you
want to be that guy, but you're just not dude.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
And when he lost to Pushing It With it was
question in his pinion because they said he ye had ghostwriters.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
When he lost to Kendrick, they were questioning like his
where he belongs in the culture? You feel me, these
are big things to be questioning about a dude that
is wrap it is supposed to be a god and see, bro,
like this is these are foundational things that are being
taken away from your legacy.

Speaker 5 (53:36):
You feel me.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
So that's why I feel like you standing on shaky ground,
nigga after these two beefs, and you can still make
bops for the you know, maybe you make a couple
of bops and it. You know, people forget, but the
ones you want to remember and respect will not.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
Because ultimately, like there obviously is a demonstration of skill.
There's all this other stuff when you talk about two
guys going back and forth, but it really is like fundamentally,
it's like a pr campaign. Who can change the narrative
about the other person the most? Do you feel differently
about push a t Than you did before his skirmish
with Drake? If you do, it's almost certainly you have

(54:12):
more respect for him. But did you change the way
you felt about Drake after that? Yes, that's why he lost.
You could say whatever about oh I have people laughing
a push it whatever, but he changed the opinion. You
talked about the ghost writer and obviously you're hiding a child.
That's what that is. A meme reference people use. You
are hiding a blank as a like that is a

(54:32):
running joke off of Drake, And it's the same thing
with Kendrick. Does anyone feel differently about Kendrick like Drake
lobbed allegations at him. I'm not saying that it's not
fuck Kendrick if the allegations aren't true, But I don't
see I don't log onto the Internet and see people
like casual rap fans, non interested parties feeling differently versus

(54:55):
Lebron James somewhere like Drake's people that he wants to
respect him. Lebron James was somewhere dancing to not like
us Bro, you know, like but with his stiff ass hits.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Kendrick told Lebron to keep his whole family away from
that motherfucker.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
But that's like, but you can't say. You can't say
that Drake, even if you think Drake's a better rapper,
even if you're such a Drake stand you think his
songs are better, whatever else, you can't say that Drake
changed the public narrative about Kendrick more than Kendrick changed
the public narrative about Drake. No one could believe that
credibly because it's clearly not the case.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Yeah, I mean, if anything, you know, Kendricks boosted his
fucking his resume off that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying,
Like like this, this is like a definitive moment and
in a Hall of Fame career for an all time
great rapper right now, Like I don't.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
We're gonna look back on.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
This is perhaps the best performance in battle and rap
beef history when we look back at this coming from Kendrick,
because the bro the songs that he gave us, Like
for one, you know, you got the Verse on like
that Heater, you know, then Euphoria Crazy, then six sixteen
in La Crazy, then fucking Meet the Graham's Sinister that

(56:13):
shit like like a fucking just a stated record, and
then you got this fucking Heater not like us. That's
the biggest fucking single in the world right now. Like,
like I said, we're gonna looking back on this and
be like, this was the greatest performance in a rap
pief that we ever saw coming from Kendrick.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
One thing I think though, is I don't know if
Drake had enough disdain in him to be able to
battle with Kendrick. Kendrick really hated him, but Drake, I feel,
wants to respect that he's not getting from Kendrick in
some way. He's like he desires that Kendrick doesn't a
fuck about about. So like, yeah, Drake, Drake just came

(56:53):
and did Drake shit and Kendrick uped it on his ass,
Like this is who I really could be in this
motherfucker if I wanted to, you know what I mean.
But let me go back and do my art ship,
you know what I mean, because I could really wear
all your niggas out.

Speaker 9 (57:06):
And I think we talked about Jay Cole's talking on
the beach. You see him on the beach. Decision bros
in rap history. Bro, I know these niggas. This is
real hate. You know what I mean, Yo, I don't
belong in this. And he is right, he is right.

(57:26):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (57:27):
You don't want to be on that side of history,
you know.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
And at the end of the day, he's like, Yo,
I ain't got nothing to do with this, and it
wasn't his business and he did it exact thing, and
we talked so much shit.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
I was like, Thiggie, it's just rap.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
It's just rap.

Speaker 5 (57:42):
What you scared up?

Speaker 4 (57:43):
You feel me? If that one up?

Speaker 5 (57:48):
Blew it?

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Accountability of media?

Speaker 1 (57:51):
You are rand protect your peace by gee, congrats to you.
You made a great decision and fuck us fuck me,
you know what I mean. For you, there's a lesson there.
There's a lesson to be learning for show. You said
what Tyler, you.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Still think that shit is hilarious?

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Though, I don't think this takes any of the humor
away from the situation of a motherfucker just just hitting
the Grandpa Simpson mean on a fucking rap beef, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
So that's funny, But I think it's not as funny
being that I understand it so much. I thought, you know,
I thought it was just app I mean, for me,
when I first saw I thought it was absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
It was unfathomable. Bro, you are one of the best rappers.
It's just a rap, Nigga. It ain't just about rap.
This is real hate, motherfucker, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
He could come up with people's next Let me get
out the way I got chilled the feet, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
It's a beach right over here, Like he took a
picture with that fan she walked up on him. He
was sitting on the beach writing.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Like Nigga probably not even raps poetry, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
Prayers of gratitude to his own decision making, to his God.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
You feel me, first ballot, Hall of Fame decision maker.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
All right, that's all the.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
Time we got for today. If you want more, Jenkins
and Jones in your Life. I have good news for you.
We're going live on Thursday. Since we got two games
from different series on Thursday. We'll be live tomorrow night.
If you listen to this on the podcast YouTube dot
com slash at Jenkinson Jones, you could come hang out
with us after Thursday's games. You could throw some some
stuff in the chat. I have an ask you action
about the chat, Jackson. Are we missing anything we should

(59:33):
be responding to?

Speaker 6 (59:34):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (59:35):
Just some some good commentary and jokes about the Drake
Kendrick stuff. One one person who was it, Paul, said
he went to trivia and Detroit tonight and Drake got
booed because he was an answer.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Elijah, that's a tough scene. We're to the top of
the cities. I don't want mad at me exactly.

Speaker 5 (59:53):
But also like that's a big music city.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
You know what I'm saying to Troy gets Hella respect
in this space where he's in and a boy in
that man and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Trivia trivia the mirror of him, not even his music bro.

Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
By the nurse. You know what I'm saying, crazy crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
By the nurse.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
I respect a good trivia player too, though. That's no,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
My wife an all time trivia bro.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
Already know that you probably cold too, ain't you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
I have like things like specific windows. I think ty
if you put Tyler, shar and Rod the together, you
and me could like keep him entertained while they were winning.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
I'm a couple of jokes. Brother, You know what I mean.
You know what I mean. Anybody want drinks someone at
a bar? You know what I mean, Mike Tyler, what
you're drinking? It's on me, brother, I'm right there with you, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
I might, like, you know, like Tyler might have a
he might remember something very specific with like a two
words in the wrong place, and I'd be like, oh,
wasn't it this? Like that was That's what I would contribute.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
I probably got one good surprising answer, like you know,
some for someone. But that's you know, I'm not the ringer.
I'm I'm definitely a roll pader. I just I'll enter
the offense. That's all we gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
I'm hard sign. I'm gonna give you one offhanded pass
that's better than you expect me to be.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
That's me. I respect it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Also, I do call my barber out of the bullshit.
We gotta do that. I just wanted that to be low.
I do check my barber, would he be all that
weird ship? I just want that to be known by
the folks. That's my nigga. But I do check them.

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
But anyway, I only.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Check people with my ethnicity on their beliefs.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
I get that. I get that, Yeah, for sure. I've
never been like, look at it this way, that's a little.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
Over the line on gay people.

Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
I never.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
I never said it, bro, I.

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
Just I'll be saying that, like, come on, man, look
at it this way. You feel me?

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
And he's you know, you'll get a little more reasonable
when I say that. You know, I list my responsible.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
Does he get a little annoy to you? Like let
me have fun, like Barbara, when when.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
It's when it's just ridiculous ship, When it's ridiculous ship
that doesn't matter and it's not hurtful, I'll be like, yo,
so tell me more.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
When he's talking about Jesus coming back on the spaceship,
you know what I mean, Oh, bro, let's run it,
run it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
But when he's talking about ship, what kind of enes
does it right right, right right? When are you talking
about like she could be right right? How many you
know what I mean? Duel exhausts? You know what I mean?
How many horse eight feet does that? Motherfucker? You know
what I mean. Let's get into it. Brother, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
But what like max speed? How fast does the Jesus
space ship?

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
How does how does mock twelve feel? You know what
I mean to Jesus? Does he feel it?

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
But I mean like, but when it's hurtful ship, I'm like,
come on, bro, you feel me?

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
Because this is my homie. I gotta be able to
tell them that we gotta have these conversations.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Yeah, anything else from the chat, Jackson? Sorry, that just
about it. Other than that's.

Speaker 7 (01:03:02):
Okay, other than Elijah said that the streets you're saying
and Donnis is going to be mad when Drake steals
his girlfriend.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
Oh that made my stomach heard God?

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Did y'all see did y'all see that that that common
sector that comment section on nice Kicks posted the nikes
that he's dropping.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Have y'all seen a comment section on that getting flamed?

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Just a comments from nice Kicks is getting Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
So he is getting flamed getting flamed, someone said, I
bet you won't have some I bet you won't press
these up inside seven, you know, because he tried to
crack the Little Jokers.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
But yeah, they're calling him like the pedophile eights and
all that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Ship.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Like the internet's turning on this dude. Bro, he's got
like a million dislikes on Heart six.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
That's on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Why, I mean, that's just this is the thing like
that feels like joh, that feels like one day you
the coldest motherfucker, everybody listening to your shit, and you
played everywhere, and then the next day you will wanst
the nigga and nobody wants to be associated with you,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
And it's the same shit. Fifty Cent and Kendrick posed
the same fundamental question, y'all, really like this motherfucker for real.

Speaker 5 (01:04:19):
He asked you a question, you know what I mean?
Nobody ever asked niggas a question. Look at this nigga.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Ye should he be saying nigga?

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
What? It's little quids?

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Maybe that's just me though, you know what I mean.
Everybody's like, who crazy crazy?

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
The homie Chris Leaper, Rosebug twenty two on Twitter, who's
been a long time listener to the show, just tweeted
at us A Libraries TikTok making fun of Drake using
an Ostrich puppet. Bro, I mean, like Buffett, I just
like an honest to god Ostrich up and look at it.

(01:05:05):
This is crazy, bro, Like its just yeah, I don't
know that the Kendrick I don't. I don't. I don't
know if y'all have seen this or if this is
big outside of southern California. But the that certified boogieman,
you would, that will that's one that will live forever.
Like every high school football player is going to have

(01:05:26):
that in his bio for fucking six years, you know
what I mean? Like that's everyone's taking that here. All
the young kids are taking that and running with it.
And I told y'all a friend of mine who cheaches
a Polly, They said, like he did a poll and
it was like the children have turned on Drake. And
obviously we're on kind of Kendrick's home turf out here,
but like, yeah, this I don't know, man, it's crazy spooky.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
That that that certified boogeyman. That's that's and and the
thing is. He said that after he said the line
that I think is like definitive of the whole before.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
He said sometimes you gotta pop out and show niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Like that's that's been his whole decent state, just hearing
that you gotta pump out his certified man, I'm one
to run a skull on him, like, yeah, bro, just
like I said, I think it's the best performance you've
ever seen in a rap beef ever, It's just crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
He out bopped Drake though, So this is your dude, right,
let me show you what time it is.

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
Like I'm gonna play.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
I'm not only gonna beat him on my ship while
I'm a better rapper. I'm gonna go to his arena
and play an away game and cook this fucking nigga.

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
Yeah in shame bro.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
All right, y'all, Like I said, we'll be live again.

Speaker 6 (01:06:38):
The last comment from the chapter before we go, I
apologize for step around.

Speaker 7 (01:06:41):
Mike Paul turned back in and said, the situation is
getting a bit untenable for.

Speaker 5 (01:06:45):
Mister have indeed. Yeah, that's you know, I think that's
great right in. We needed that, We needed that. That
was a good life. Little seriod on in this podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
That's the meanest thing anyone said about it. He's a
certain fight on Tenable bro. All right, Joe, we'll see it.
We'll see you tomorrow, Bye bye bye. Mm hm.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
The volume m hm