March 24, 2025 • 33 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (03/24) - It is National Cheesesteak Day! A Laguna Niguel family was deported and there has been an uproar over it but there really shouldn't be any outrage. Alex Stone comes on the show to talk about 23 & Me filing for bankruptcy and why data the company has could be in jeopardy. One guy scaled the side of pyramids in Mexico and tried to hide in a pyramid chamber when security went looking for him and the locals want this guy sacrificed for breaking the law.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
We're on from one until four o'clock every day, and
then after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand on
the iHeart app, so if you miss something, you can
always hear it later. Today we got cheese steaks from
Philly's Best today.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
This is very exciting.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I came in about an hour ago and there was
a whole box of cheese steaks, and there was one
day specifically for me because I'm very particularly about.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
The cheese steaks.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Huh, did you enjoy it?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I enjoyed it very much. Philly's Best is the best
cheese steaks in the area that I'm aware of. I
always say that in case you know there's someone else
who wants to take on that challenge, you'd have to
out do Philly's Best.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You were stuff in your face for a long time.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Actually, I think the term stuffing your face is a
little indelicate.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well, you were really enjoying it, You're really into it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Was not growling while I was eating. They could sound
like I was a woodchuck or something.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Sound. See, I didn't even notice you walking by.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, that's my boy.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I was fully involved with the cheese steak. Anyway, Bob,
Bob Levy is how you say his name, Bob Levy,
uh is the is the owner of this place on
Melrose and uh. I think he also subfranchised the one
that we always go to, or I always.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Go to.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
West Olive Avenue with Burbank. It's just about two three
miles down the road. So but this one, this cheese steak,
and the thing is with cheese steaks, I just want
the cheese and the steak. And I made that very clear.
You did some cheese steak places. They load in onions
and peppers and god you do.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
That mushrooms because I got a one. They were very
nice and made me a vegan one.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
No, no, no, no, you don't eat mushrooms.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Without the steak and without the cheese.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
All right, Well, it's not a cheese steak. I don't
know what they gave you, but a cheese steak with
that they made.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Something vegan for me, John, because it was very nice
of them so that I wouldn't be left out.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
You will admit it's not a cheese steak.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I will admit it's not a cheese steak, but it
was a nice sandwich.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
You know the vegan people that want to go with
their non vegan friends, there's an option for you.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
This is what happens when you when you get vegan friends,
then there's always a discussion of well you want to
go to this restaurant, Well did they have vegan?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Did they serve vegan?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
What about you?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
You would be if somebody wanted to take you to
a restaurant, well.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Did they have meat?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
From me? Actually we would.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
We got taken out once to a vegan restaurant, and yeah,
it was tough. I was looking at, you know, probably
twenty two different entrees on the menu, and I was
over for twenty two.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
There really was Did you what did you end up getting?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I don't remember. I probably whatever. I don't remember eating
anything there.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Oh so you just sat there without eating.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I probably ordered something and then moved it around the plate.
Just reverted to being eight years old when my mother
would serve me something objectionable, you know, and you make it,
you make it. I do this like when I go
over somebody's house and they're serving me something that's I
have solved that problem when we have to go over,
especially on the West Side, where they they'll have gatherings
(03:22):
and they won't serve actual food, but they'll serve vegetation
or flowers or I don't know what it was. We're
I know, and so I sneak out while my wife's
in the shower. I go to in and out and
I load up it in and out, I eat it.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
You really do that?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Oh no, I really really do that.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I load up on in and out, eat it in
the car on the way home, and then by the
time she's done with the shower, I can do this
and you know, about half an hour and I come
in and then I don't have to worry because you
go to these things and they serve we're.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Derds, right, what's wrong with orr that? I have plenty
of meat based.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Not on the West side they don't. I don't know
what's in them. That's part of the problem. You can
I do ask and they tell.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Me, and they don't understand what it is.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I'll say, I never heard of that. There's no salami
or pepperoni on like aoie board or anything.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You go west of the four or five, you know,
to a party with our dirves, you're in trouble.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I mean, it's just, uh, well.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
How do you think I feel when I go to
places and all they have are you.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Know, many mini weenies or meatbles nothing for me to eat?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, I know, but that's that's normal food. No, many
weenies are are traditional or dirvs.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Okay, you know what. There are vegans in this world?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You know, I read today and I have a whole
article on this. The number of vegans were wildly overestimated.
They found out that there's a lot of people who
claim to be a vegan in Polan, but actual vegans
only about a quarter.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Why would somebody claim to be a vegan? It's not really,
it's not a thing.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Well it does it is? It is.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
It is a trendy thing. It's like, it's like, how
come thirty eight percent of the kids at Brown claimed
to be transgender or something? You've seen that, Paul, No,
thirty eight percent of the kids at Brown claimed that
they're one of the one of the colors on the
LGBT brainbow. Okay, I can't go through all the variations.
Thirty eight percent, honest to God, and in real life, though,
(05:35):
they found a few years later that most of them are.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Not maybe they were confused.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Maybe they wanted a social standing. See, yeah, there was
social status by saying you were of a INDI termined.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I don't think you're I don't think it's a social
status to say.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
That you're a vegan.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I think there was something cool about it. A vegan
being a vegan.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, I don't do it for trendy reasons. I've been
a vegan for about thirty years.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So it turns out, years ago there's a poll eight
percent of America claimed they were vegan. In truth, it
was one point eight percent. And you know how they
figured this out. They asked, well, this is a different,
different study. They asked people, Okay, are you vegan? Yeah,
I'm vegan eight percent? Okay, now submit your daily intake?
What kind of food you ate? Well, when when they
(06:20):
looked at the food diaries, it turned out people relying
like crazy, They.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Just wanted they were confused. I would like to think
that is confused. Yeah, what is that gender dysphoria? So
this is vegan dysporia. Yeah, you're not sure what you are? Anyway?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Uh wehy? How far off track? Did we?
Speaker 6 (06:40):
All?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Right? Anyway?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Thank you to Bob Levy Philly's Best on Melrose and
also on West Alive Avenue in Burbank.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Thank you for including me and going out of your
way to make me something vegan.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Take some fake vegetable sandwich to keep you happy.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Vegetables all right?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
When we come back, I.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Know it was real, bitch, Yes exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
What wasn't fake meat? Which I appreciate it. Yea, there was.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
The Los Angeles Times had a story. It was the
top story several times. It keeps going to the top
and then slipping down and then going back to the
top over the last few days, all the whole weekend,
and it was about this Laguna Neguel couple who Nelson
and Gladys Gonzalez, who suddenly got deported. Now they've been
(07:32):
living in the country for thirty five years, never committed
a crime, they have three adult daughters, and suddenly they
were sent back to Columbia. The thing is, you have
to if you print this out, it's how many pages,
three pages, you have to get all the way to
the third page before you find out why they were deported. Right,
(07:54):
They're presented as this being in a pure, pristine legal state,
and this somehow came out of the blue, and it's
wrong and it's cruel and it's mean, and look what
the government is doing.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
And then you keep.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Reading and reading and reading, and then you get near
the end of the story. It's like, oh, that's why,
I'm going to count the paragraphs while you do the
news and hopefully they'll be done by time we come back. Wow,
and you'll see how many paragraphs they spent not telling
you why and how. When you get to why, if
(08:30):
you put yourself in their place, you'd say, well, what
did you expect?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Of course this was going to happen someday.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Coming up after one thirty. Alex Stone from ABC News,
This was quite shocking if you registered with twenty three
and meters with your genetic data. The California Attorney General
is saying that you ought to delete all your data
because the company has filed for bankruptcy and who knows
where your genetic data information is going to end up.
(09:05):
It's a fascinating case. I went with another company. I'm
not going to say because somebody might steal it, but
twenty three and meteris going bankrupt officially, so we'll have
Alexander to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It's Orange County couple, and I've been reading this story
for a few days. Ken and I for years had
what we call the three day rule. At some point
in life, I don't know ten fifteen years ago, we
realized that much of the news coverage, or at least
the first burst of news coverage on a story, was
often wrong or often very biased and slanted. You couldn't
(09:41):
trust it right. You had to wait until there were
other news sources describing the same news story, or you
had to wait until you know in the case, and
this is very true with school shootings, for example, the
first information from school shoot. You know, some people, sometimes
a big news story happens, and you know it's on
early in the day, middle of the day, and somebody
will say to me, oh, don't you wish you were
(10:02):
on the air when that happened? And I say no,
because usually the information that comes out is wrong, and
so you don't really know what happened, so you don't
really know what to talk about, right. And that's also
true when a story comes out, and especially if it's
a politically oriented story, double especially if it's a Trump story,
(10:23):
it often turns out to be wrong or exaggerated or distorted.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
So I was waited to see.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
About this Orange County couple, Nelson and Gladys Gonzales. The
report was they lived in Laguna Miguel for thirty five years,
and they showed up for a routine check in on
February twenty first with ice, and I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Well, they lived illegally. What's this routine check in? Right?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I mean, I always say if I'm in a foreign country,
because I know I traveled a lot, You've traveled a lot, right.
I think my wife and I have gone about thirty
five different countries. In some countries, I'm nervousing. I got
stopped crossing between the Israel and Palestine border once we
went into Bethlehem.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
This didn't happen to you because war broke out, exactly.
I didn't get to go, but it would have.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
So so we went to see the church in Bethlehem,
where the story is Jesus was born. We come back.
They let my three sons go through, my wife go through.
When it came time to me, they're shaking their heads.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
What were you doing?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's not like I was standing there naked with a rifle.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Did they I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
They took the passport and a committee for him. There's
like three or four of them. They put the passport
on a counter in the back of the room. I
can still see them, and they're all looking at it,
and they're pointing at it, and a couple of them
are shaking their heads. It's like, great, I'm up for
a vote whether I'm going to leave Palestine.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Well, did you do I mean, seriously, did you do
something offensive?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
No? No, I behaved myself. Okay, I do.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
They just they took your whole family and said these
people are good.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Except for him, except for him.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Right now. My wife sees this stuff. First thing, she goes, well,
let's get on the bus and get out of here.
I'm not staying around to see what happens. And they
just had an extended meeting. And finally, one of them,
shaking his head disgruntled, pushes the passport at me and
waves like, go go already one of those attitudes. Yeah,
oh yeah, that's why I've got no compassion for the Palestinians.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
All right.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
They did not treat me well when I tried to
cross the border. Nice and my wife got stopped in Russia.
We were on a cruise, actually a cruise with listeners,
and back then this was pre trouble with Russia.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I don't know if.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I'd be more afraid to be stopped in Bethlehem or Russia.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I was a little spook being in Russia. Yeah, which
is a whole nother story. But she went out to
go shopping and she comes back. She's carrying bags of
goodies and she can't. I went down off the ship
to meet her, and she's stuck at the window and
it's the same thing. Took her passport to look at
it and shaking their head, and they didn't they didn't
(13:10):
want to let her on. And she's starting to I
see she's waving her because I'm looking at it through
like a glass window, and she's waving her arms and gesturing.
And if Russians are stonefaced, they don't betray anything. Eventually
she got in. So the idea that I would live
for thirty five years in a country just having those
(13:31):
isolated instances, being in the country for a few hours,
I couldn't imagine getting up every day. You're in the
country illegally and you never got your paperwork together. Well,
if you read this La Times story, it's about the
three daughters of Nelson and Gladys Gonzales. They started a
GoFundMe page because they were deported. They were sent back
(13:54):
to Columbia, and they wrote on the GoFundMe page They've
never broken the law, never missed an appointment, and this
sudden occurrence has left us in shock. This cruel and
unjust situation has shattered our family emotionally and financially. And
Ruben Vivez is writing this nonsense for the La Times,
(14:15):
and he wrote, advocates say the couple's case is part
of a troubling trend immigrants living in the country without
legal authorization.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Wow, that's a mouthful.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
They're illegal aliens, but it's actually immigrants living in the
country without legal authorization. That's eight words instead of two words.
It's eight words, who have no criminal history, being detained
during routine check ins and in some cases deported. Ruben
vives says, living in the country illegally is a civil violation,
(14:46):
not a criminal offense, unless someone has been deported and
returns to the country without permission, and then it goes
through a long back and forth of statistics, and this
expert says this, and this expert says that you know
how the times. So anyway, I'm thinking the whole time.
And this is like a subset of the three day rule.
You've got to read the whole story. I don't know
(15:07):
how many times if you look at the La Times
or the New York Times or any paper, how often
do you get real deep into the story. People generally
read headlines, maybe a couple of paragraphs. I had to
go through paragraph twenty four, paragraph twenty four before you.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Hit the gold.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
According to a statement from ICE, Vivez finally writes, and
this may be the first time. In fact, when I
read this, it might have been the first time anybody
read this paragraph. According to a statement from ICE, the
married couple entered the country illegally in November nineteen eighty
nine near sanuel Sidro nineteen eighty nine. George Bush Senior
(15:52):
was president then right The agency did not say under
what program the couple was allowed to stay. The couple's
trek to the US happened at a time when Colombia
was racked with armed conflict, political and drug violence that
resulted in the deaths of many Colombians, including a popular
(16:12):
presidential candidate who was assassinated. Of course, nothing here indicates
that Nelson and Gladys Gonzales were targeted any way, because
most people were not shot and assassinated. Immigration officials say
Nelson Gonzalez applied for asylum in nineteen ninety two. This
is three years later. If you remember, in the past year,
(16:34):
all the people at the border who wanted asylum applied
for asylum right at the border. Some of them applied
while they were still in Mexico. So he gets here
and then waits three years. Then his case is closed
in June of nineteen ninety eight when he fails to
attend an interview. So being here legally wasn't that important
to him. He didn't show up for the asylum interview
(16:56):
nine years after he arrived. In the summer of nineteen
ninety eight, an immigration judge also found that Gladys Gonzales
his wife, had no legal basis to stay, so he
skips out on his asylum interview nine years later. She's
got no legal basis to say, so, it says a judge.
They dragged out the case for a couple more years. Finally,
(17:19):
an immigration judge in March of two thousand said get out,
and they agreed to leave the country, but instead they
tried to get another appeal for each of their cases.
Whatever this appeals process was, it finally ended in twenty
(17:39):
twenty one, and on February twenty first of this year,
they were detained while a final order of removal was
being processed. They were told to get out for sure
twenty five years ago. Their appeals process ended four years
(17:59):
ago after dragging on for twenty one years, and sometime
in March they were put on a plane back to
their native country. That is paragraphs twenty four to twenty
nine of the story. Now you've been in the news
business for a while, should those paragraphs have been moved
up to maybe paragraph three to eight.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I mean, Ruben Vivez.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
And what your belief is absolutely right exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It's it's not taking a political side on this. It's
like I wanted to know the story, and only because
I do this for a living and know what the
La Times is up to, I toughed it out and
read all the way to paragraph twenty four before the
truth was told. So anybody who didn't make it to
paragraph twenty four saw this emotional, emotionally manipulative story to
(18:51):
make it sound like the Trump administration is being cruel
and mean.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
To these people.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Well, people could decide that on their own, but you've
got to give them the facts up front. I don't
think it's particularly cruel and mean when you sit here
for thirty five years, when you're told to get out
twenty five years ago, when you don't show up for
your interview, when the wife never had any legal basis
to stay. They give me a break. Rubin Vivez and
(19:20):
the La Times editors, once again, it's deception. It's a slanted,
biased presentation that leaves you with the wrong impression.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
We'ron every day one until four o'clock. After four o'clock
John Cobelt's show on demand on the iHeart app, and
you can hear what you missed. A few years ago,
all the rage were these genetic testing companies where you
spit a tube, mail your spit in a short time.
Later you get a detailed genetic analysis of where you
(20:00):
came from, and increasingly it tells you about the likelihood
that you have certain characteristics or you don't have certain characteristics.
Twenty three and Me was really popular. It was a
startup some years ago and then it went public and
(20:23):
it has a tremendous amount of data human genetic information
from around the world, and it's gone bankrupt. One of
the problems is that for most people, you only do
one spit in the tube and that's it. You only
pay them onths and I guess they're running out of
(20:43):
customers who care about this. We're going to get Alex
Stone on from ABC News because the California Attorney General
has issued a warning, a direction to people saying if
you have genetic information with twenty three and me, you
got to do something. Alex hey hey, John. Yeah, they
filed for bankruptcy today. The CEO resigned and not a
(21:05):
complete surprise. There were signs that there were problems a
couple months ago. In November, forty percent of twenty three
and meters staff was laid off. But as you mentioned,
the problem being, you know, companies in general have tried
to go to a membership set up, so whether it
be your streaming service or Microsoft Office. Now typically you
don't just buy the software like he used to. They
(21:26):
want the monthly subscription for access to it because it
keeps that revenue coming in. But the problem with twenty
three and me and others like it that once you
found out that you were hey, look I did it.
Once I found out that I was mostly German and
from the from the UK, I went, oh, okay, well
that was interesting, and I'm not paying monthly to find
(21:46):
out anymore to know that I'm if I'm predisposed to
a bold spot, or if cilantro tastes like soap, and
you know all the other things that they tell you
based on your DNA. Well you know what it told me, Yeah,
that vegetables taste harsh to me, which I look at
some of them and go, no, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yes, so they miss on a few of them.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, And so they tried to come up with other
health related things to get people to pay monthly or
yearly for it, and people didn't want to do it,
so they have gone bankrupt. California's Attorney General Rob Bonta
now warning that the company could be on the verge
of collapse and that if you were a customer of
twenty three and meters, then you may want to take
action under California law, that they are headquartered in California,
(22:30):
that they're under our law here and secure your DNA
and get them to delete it. We talked to Anya Prints,
a professor at the University of Iowa College of Law,
and she told.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Us the privacy policy itself says that in the case
of sale or bankruptcy, the consumer data goes with the
new company. And furthermore, the privacy policy says that it
can be changed at any time. And so there's a
chance that consumers are comfortable without twenty three and ME
is currently using their data, but that they might not
be comfortable with how a new company would slightly alter
(23:03):
the privacy policy.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
And so that's the thing. You may not know what
a new company is going to do with your data.
They may liquidate where different parts of it are going
to be sold off. They would be an attractive company
for all of the DNA data on so many people
globally that they've got, and all of those samples that
they've already got, what are they going to do with those?
So the AG is telling twenty three in meter customers
(23:25):
that you should think about under what you are afforded
under the law to go into the settings of twenty
three and meters, download a PDF copy of your twenty
three and meters report so that you've got it, you
paid for it. You might as well keep that forever
if you want to go back and look at it,
and then in the settings go until twenty three and
ME to stop sharing your data, delete your data, delete
(23:46):
the sample that they may be holding on to for
future use, and delete your account if you just want
to get rid of it. We talked to another expert,
Dina Goldberg. She works in genetics, and says, you know,
all of these sites, including twenty three and ME, they've
got these con forms you may or may not know
that you agreed to at the beginning, allowing them or
telling them no that you don't want them to share
(24:07):
your data with third party companies. But it's presented as
for research and for health data, and it will help
you refine everything. So a lot of people said, sure,
you know, if it's going to be very limited use
for health and learning my health of the future, sure
go ahead and do it. She says, you got to
know what you're.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Okay anytime you are giving your data, your biological specimen
to any commercial company or really any company at all,
it is something to consider what they're doing with that information.
And typically when we're talking about genetic information, it usually
is stored very securely and usually there's consent forms to
(24:47):
sign and to fill out that will explain what they're
doing with your data.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
And there are on twenty three and me, but you
want to go into the settings and unclick the consent
to share. So twenty three meters says in a statement
that it does not share customer data with a third
party without your consent, the many people have given that
consent and that it will comply with all genetic privacy
laws moving with whatever goes on here, and then it
will keep DNA data confidential. But it looked like John
(25:11):
before the bankruptcy, they were trying to go private. But
the future of the company is unknown today. Shares have
been in a free fall recently and today especially. And
I mean this was a big deal Oprah's Favorite Things
a number of years ago, and everybody was doing it
and on Amazon Prime days you'd get big discounts.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
You do it, you do it once.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, Like I never thought that a company like this
could go bankrupt, But I guess you hit a limit
of how many people in the world want to spend
the money and go through the trouble. Yeah, and they
tried to do all kinds of medical research things and
to get in the world, you know, the bio world
of well it could be used for this and that,
and seems like they've kind of hit a wall. But
they do have a huge amount of your data and
(25:51):
my data. And I did it, my parents did it,
so you know, everybody those who took part, and there
are many who did that, their data is in there.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And now what's what's going to go on with it?
Where's it going to go? You know what?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
The latest update I got, yeah from I didn't do
twenty three and me, but the service I went with,
I got an update. I'm very likely to smell asparagus odor. Yeah,
that's that one's on twenty three and me as well.
I think it says that I do smell it, and
guess I do smell it. Yeah, and you mentioned cilantro.
(26:27):
I have a moderate chance of disliking cilantro.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Don't we all smell asparagus if we eat it and
we pee.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
No, Apparently people don't have the the end time to
smell it. Yeah, there is a part of the population
that doesn't smell it. Here you go, bitter sensitivity. Bitter sensitivity.
M wait at the extreme end, my little green dot
on the graph all the way at the far right,
which is what why I can't eat vegetables because they
all taste bitter. And I'm smelling asparagus everywhere too. Mindset,
(26:58):
I think I'm eighty eight percent more Neanderthal than most
of the population. That soun's about right. I don't even
know what that means, but that sounds about right. I'm
probably at one hundred and ten there. I was considered
you civill wise, all right, very good, Alex, thanks for
coming on. You got it later ninety three percent from
Eastern Europe, Poland, and then four percent the Baltics, which
(27:21):
is Lithuanian, and I say two percent Jewish. Really yeah,
so I fit in with the rest of the crew here.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Welcome to the tribe. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
You know I never did that.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You never did the.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
And I was. I keep thinking about doing it. I
also wanted to do it for my dogs, and then
I just your dogs as well.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
My son did it for our dog. Yeah, and they
actually sent him pictures of other dogs. He's related to
that's so cool, and all the dogs looked insane, Well,
your dog is insane, Like if dogs could.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Look like serial killers, all of them did.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well you from what you've told me about.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, I know it's a little he's deranged. All right,
are coming up?
Speaker 7 (28:01):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Coming up after two o'clock. We're gonna have a Jamie
Page on from the West Side Current. They claim there's
there's very early data from the Greater Los Angeles homeless count.
They're claiming that's a drop of thirty six hundred. God,
here's another phrase, unsheltered individuals. These were, in other words,
(28:29):
the street homeless. All right, the crazy people that terrify you.
There's thirty six hundred fewer across the region. That's across
the region. Well, there's seventy thousand across the region. So
this is a five percent drop, which means we've spent
billions of dollars to cut into five percent of the
(28:53):
homeless total. Well that's that's not good. Uh, that's that's bad.
Billions of dollars. This would take us at this rate
twenty years, assuming no other homeless people move into the city,
which they are every day. It would take twenty years
to get rid of everybody. And let me guess they're
going to be doing victory lapse on this. Well, we're
(29:13):
going to talk with Jamie Page coming up after two
o'clock from the west side current. This is funny. Have
you ever gone to chichen Itza. It's the pyramids in
Mexico that the Mayan's built. I've gone there, and they're big,
beautiful pyramids. I mean, the construction is different, but it's
(29:35):
the same idea as the ones in Egypt. You may
want to go here because you're never going to see
the ones in Egypt.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
You're not supposed to climb up the stairs. And one
guy started scaling up the side of the pyramid.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Why aren't you supposed to go upstairs?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Well, it's a sacred spot.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Why are there stairs?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Well it was built thousands of years ago.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Okay, stairs, I'm thinking with the railing.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Oh no, no, no, no, these are.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
It's it's it's okay, it's not it's not modern.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Very steep, it very very steep, and it's very dangerous
and it's a violation of the sanctity of the of
the temple. Now, nine thousand tourists came to the temple
just on Thursday. It's a huge attraction. And Thursday was
(30:28):
the spring equinox, so there's probably some very meaningful in
that part of the world.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And the Mins built this well.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
One guy, thirty eight year old German tourist, he he
climbs up, the security guards chase him and then he
tries to hide inside a pyramid chamber. But he was
found and escorted out. But the locals were so angry
they shouted that he should be sacrificed because thousands of you,
(31:01):
thousands of years ago, the minds used to engage in
human sacrifices. They would carry them out on top of
the pyramid. That's just the beginning right then, and then
you get you get, you get sacrificed. That sounds like
it would hurt. So if you go to chichen Itza
(31:23):
to the pyramid, don't because the crowd will turn down
you real fast. They have no problem. I guess was
setting you on fire. Yeah, when we come back, we
had a lot of good stuff next hour because thirty
six hundred fewer homeless in the streets after billions and
billions of dollars. If you believe the numbers, it's only
(31:46):
a five percent hit on the total. We're gonna have
Daniel Guss on And apparently there's a few speakers who
show up at city council meetings in LA and they
start shout outing the N word and the C word,
and nobody can seem to stop them, and the city
(32:06):
council president is trying to But that's a violation of
First Amendment rights.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
It's public, it's a public meeting.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
And also Daniel Gus I exchanged some emails. I was
even working on Sunday. Wow, I was sending emails to
Daniel Guss and he was sending him back about inside
story on this absurd parking Enforcement agency situation where Karen
Bass found a way to lose sixty five million dollars
(32:33):
in the past year, sixty five million handing out parking tickets,
not making it up, sixty five million dollar loss just
on parking tickets. We'll explain how that could be. Got
some more insider information. Deborah Mark is live in the
CAFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to
the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear the
show live on KFI Am six forty from one to
(32:55):
four pm every Monday through Friday, and of course anytime
on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Can't. I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
We're on from one until four o'clock every day, and
then after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand on
the iHeart app, so if you miss something, you can
always hear it later. Today we got cheese steaks from
Philly's Best today.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
This is very exciting.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I came in about an hour ago and there was
a whole box of cheese steaks, and there was one
day specifically for me because I'm very particularly about.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
The cheese steaks.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Huh, did you enjoy it?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I enjoyed it very much. Philly's Best is the best
cheese steaks in the area that I'm aware of. I
always say that in case you know there's someone else
who wants to take on that challenge, you'd have to
out do Philly's Best.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You were stuff in your face for a long time.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Actually, I think the term stuffing your face is a
little indelicate.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well, you were really enjoying it, You're really into it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Was not growling while I was eating. They could sound
like I was a woodchuck or something.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Sound. See, I didn't even notice you walking by.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, that's my boy.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I was fully involved with the cheese steak. Anyway, Bob,
Bob Levy is how you say his name, Bob Levy,
uh is the is the owner of this place on
Melrose and uh. I think he also subfranchised the one
that we always go to, or I always.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Go to.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
West Olive Avenue with Burbank. It's just about two three
miles down the road. So but this one, this cheese steak,
and the thing is with cheese steaks, I just want
the cheese and the steak. And I made that very clear.
You did some cheese steak places. They load in onions
and peppers and god you do.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
That mushrooms because I got a one. They were very
nice and made me a vegan one.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
No, no, no, no, you don't eat mushrooms.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Without the steak and without the cheese.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
All right, Well, it's not a cheese steak. I don't
know what they gave you, but a cheese steak with
that they made.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Something vegan for me, John, because it was very nice
of them so that I wouldn't be left out.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
You will admit it's not a cheese steak.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I will admit it's not a cheese steak, but it
was a nice sandwich.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
You know the vegan people that want to go with
their non vegan friends, there's an option for you.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
This is what happens when you when you get vegan friends,
then there's always a discussion of well you want to
go to this restaurant, Well did they have vegan?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Did they serve vegan?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
What about you?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
You would be if somebody wanted to take you to
a restaurant, well.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Did they have meat?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
From me? Actually we would.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
We got taken out once to a vegan restaurant, and yeah,
it was tough. I was looking at, you know, probably
twenty two different entrees on the menu, and I was
over for twenty two.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
There really was Did you what did you end up getting?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I don't remember. I probably whatever. I don't remember eating
anything there.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Oh so you just sat there without eating.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I probably ordered something and then moved it around the plate.
Just reverted to being eight years old when my mother
would serve me something objectionable, you know, and you make it,
you make it. I do this like when I go
over somebody's house and they're serving me something that's I
have solved that problem when we have to go over,
especially on the West Side, where they they'll have gatherings
(03:22):
and they won't serve actual food, but they'll serve vegetation
or flowers or I don't know what it was. We're
I know, and so I sneak out while my wife's
in the shower. I go to in and out and
I load up it in and out, I eat it.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
You really do that?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Oh no, I really really do that.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I load up on in and out, eat it in
the car on the way home, and then by the
time she's done with the shower, I can do this
and you know, about half an hour and I come
in and then I don't have to worry because you
go to these things and they serve we're.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Derds, right, what's wrong with orr that? I have plenty
of meat based.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Not on the West side they don't. I don't know
what's in them. That's part of the problem. You can
I do ask and they tell.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Me, and they don't understand what it is.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I'll say, I never heard of that. There's no salami
or pepperoni on like aoie board or anything.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You go west of the four or five, you know,
to a party with our dirves, you're in trouble.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I mean, it's just, uh, well.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
How do you think I feel when I go to
places and all they have are you.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Know, many mini weenies or meatbles nothing for me to eat?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, I know, but that's that's normal food. No, many
weenies are are traditional or dirvs.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Okay, you know what. There are vegans in this world?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You know, I read today and I have a whole
article on this. The number of vegans were wildly overestimated.
They found out that there's a lot of people who
claim to be a vegan in Polan, but actual vegans
only about a quarter.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Why would somebody claim to be a vegan? It's not really,
it's not a thing.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Well it does it is? It is.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
It is a trendy thing. It's like, it's like, how
come thirty eight percent of the kids at Brown claimed
to be transgender or something? You've seen that, Paul, No,
thirty eight percent of the kids at Brown claimed that
they're one of the one of the colors on the
LGBT brainbow. Okay, I can't go through all the variations.
Thirty eight percent, honest to God, and in real life, though,
(05:35):
they found a few years later that most of them are.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Not maybe they were confused.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Maybe they wanted a social standing. See, yeah, there was
social status by saying you were of a INDI termined.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I don't think you're I don't think it's a social
status to say.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
That you're a vegan.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I think there was something cool about it. A vegan
being a vegan.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, I don't do it for trendy reasons. I've been
a vegan for about thirty years.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So it turns out, years ago there's a poll eight
percent of America claimed they were vegan. In truth, it
was one point eight percent. And you know how they
figured this out. They asked, well, this is a different,
different study. They asked people, Okay, are you vegan? Yeah,
I'm vegan eight percent? Okay, now submit your daily intake?
What kind of food you ate? Well, when when they
(06:20):
looked at the food diaries, it turned out people relying
like crazy, They.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Just wanted they were confused. I would like to think
that is confused. Yeah, what is that gender dysphoria? So
this is vegan dysporia. Yeah, you're not sure what you are? Anyway?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Uh wehy? How far off track? Did we?
Speaker 6 (06:40):
All?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Right? Anyway?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Thank you to Bob Levy Philly's Best on Melrose and
also on West Alive Avenue in Burbank.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Thank you for including me and going out of your
way to make me something vegan.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Take some fake vegetable sandwich to keep you happy.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Vegetables all right?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
When we come back, I.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Know it was real, bitch, Yes exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
What wasn't fake meat? Which I appreciate it. Yea, there was.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
The Los Angeles Times had a story. It was the
top story several times. It keeps going to the top
and then slipping down and then going back to the
top over the last few days, all the whole weekend,
and it was about this Laguna Neguel couple who Nelson
and Gladys Gonzalez, who suddenly got deported. Now they've been
(07:32):
living in the country for thirty five years, never committed
a crime, they have three adult daughters, and suddenly they
were sent back to Columbia. The thing is, you have
to if you print this out, it's how many pages,
three pages, you have to get all the way to
the third page before you find out why they were deported. Right,
(07:54):
They're presented as this being in a pure, pristine legal state,
and this somehow came out of the blue, and it's
wrong and it's cruel and it's mean, and look what
the government is doing.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
And then you keep.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Reading and reading and reading, and then you get near
the end of the story. It's like, oh, that's why,
I'm going to count the paragraphs while you do the
news and hopefully they'll be done by time we come back. Wow,
and you'll see how many paragraphs they spent not telling
you why and how. When you get to why, if
(08:30):
you put yourself in their place, you'd say, well, what
did you expect?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Of course this was going to happen someday.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Coming up after one thirty. Alex Stone from ABC News,
This was quite shocking if you registered with twenty three
and meters with your genetic data. The California Attorney General
is saying that you ought to delete all your data
because the company has filed for bankruptcy and who knows
where your genetic data information is going to end up.
(09:05):
It's a fascinating case. I went with another company. I'm
not going to say because somebody might steal it, but
twenty three and meteris going bankrupt officially, so we'll have
Alexander to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It's Orange County couple, and I've been reading this story
for a few days. Ken and I for years had
what we call the three day rule. At some point
in life, I don't know ten fifteen years ago, we
realized that much of the news coverage, or at least
the first burst of news coverage on a story, was
often wrong or often very biased and slanted. You couldn't
(09:41):
trust it right. You had to wait until there were
other news sources describing the same news story, or you
had to wait until you know in the case, and
this is very true with school shootings, for example, the
first information from school shoot. You know, some people, sometimes
a big news story happens, and you know it's on
early in the day, middle of the day, and somebody
will say to me, oh, don't you wish you were
(10:02):
on the air when that happened? And I say no,
because usually the information that comes out is wrong, and
so you don't really know what happened, so you don't
really know what to talk about, right. And that's also
true when a story comes out, and especially if it's
a politically oriented story, double especially if it's a Trump story,
(10:23):
it often turns out to be wrong or exaggerated or distorted.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
So I was waited to see.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
About this Orange County couple, Nelson and Gladys Gonzales. The
report was they lived in Laguna Miguel for thirty five years,
and they showed up for a routine check in on
February twenty first with ice, and I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Well, they lived illegally. What's this routine check in? Right?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I mean, I always say if I'm in a foreign country,
because I know I traveled a lot, You've traveled a lot, right.
I think my wife and I have gone about thirty
five different countries. In some countries, I'm nervousing. I got
stopped crossing between the Israel and Palestine border once we
went into Bethlehem.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
This didn't happen to you because war broke out, exactly.
I didn't get to go, but it would have.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
So so we went to see the church in Bethlehem,
where the story is Jesus was born. We come back.
They let my three sons go through, my wife go through.
When it came time to me, they're shaking their heads.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
What were you doing?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's not like I was standing there naked with a rifle.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Did they I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
They took the passport and a committee for him. There's
like three or four of them. They put the passport
on a counter in the back of the room. I
can still see them, and they're all looking at it,
and they're pointing at it, and a couple of them
are shaking their heads. It's like, great, I'm up for
a vote whether I'm going to leave Palestine.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Well, did you do I mean, seriously, did you do
something offensive?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
No? No, I behaved myself. Okay, I do.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
They just they took your whole family and said these
people are good.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Except for him, except for him.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Right now. My wife sees this stuff. First thing, she goes, well,
let's get on the bus and get out of here.
I'm not staying around to see what happens. And they
just had an extended meeting. And finally, one of them,
shaking his head disgruntled, pushes the passport at me and
waves like, go go already one of those attitudes. Yeah,
oh yeah, that's why I've got no compassion for the Palestinians.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
All right.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
They did not treat me well when I tried to
cross the border. Nice and my wife got stopped in Russia.
We were on a cruise, actually a cruise with listeners,
and back then this was pre trouble with Russia.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I don't know if.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I'd be more afraid to be stopped in Bethlehem or Russia.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I was a little spook being in Russia. Yeah, which
is a whole nother story. But she went out to
go shopping and she comes back. She's carrying bags of
goodies and she can't. I went down off the ship
to meet her, and she's stuck at the window and
it's the same thing. Took her passport to look at
it and shaking their head, and they didn't they didn't
(13:10):
want to let her on. And she's starting to I
see she's waving her because I'm looking at it through
like a glass window, and she's waving her arms and gesturing.
And if Russians are stonefaced, they don't betray anything. Eventually
she got in. So the idea that I would live
for thirty five years in a country just having those
(13:31):
isolated instances, being in the country for a few hours,
I couldn't imagine getting up every day. You're in the
country illegally and you never got your paperwork together. Well,
if you read this La Times story, it's about the
three daughters of Nelson and Gladys Gonzales. They started a
GoFundMe page because they were deported. They were sent back
(13:54):
to Columbia, and they wrote on the GoFundMe page They've
never broken the law, never missed an appointment, and this
sudden occurrence has left us in shock. This cruel and
unjust situation has shattered our family emotionally and financially. And
Ruben Vivez is writing this nonsense for the La Times,
(14:15):
and he wrote, advocates say the couple's case is part
of a troubling trend immigrants living in the country without
legal authorization.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Wow, that's a mouthful.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
They're illegal aliens, but it's actually immigrants living in the
country without legal authorization. That's eight words instead of two words.
It's eight words, who have no criminal history, being detained
during routine check ins and in some cases deported. Ruben
vives says, living in the country illegally is a civil violation,
(14:46):
not a criminal offense, unless someone has been deported and
returns to the country without permission, and then it goes
through a long back and forth of statistics, and this
expert says this, and this expert says that you know
how the times. So anyway, I'm thinking the whole time.
And this is like a subset of the three day rule.
You've got to read the whole story. I don't know
(15:07):
how many times if you look at the La Times
or the New York Times or any paper, how often
do you get real deep into the story. People generally
read headlines, maybe a couple of paragraphs. I had to
go through paragraph twenty four, paragraph twenty four before you.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Hit the gold.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
According to a statement from ICE, Vivez finally writes, and
this may be the first time. In fact, when I
read this, it might have been the first time anybody
read this paragraph. According to a statement from ICE, the
married couple entered the country illegally in November nineteen eighty
nine near sanuel Sidro nineteen eighty nine. George Bush Senior
(15:52):
was president then right The agency did not say under
what program the couple was allowed to stay. The couple's
trek to the US happened at a time when Colombia
was racked with armed conflict, political and drug violence that
resulted in the deaths of many Colombians, including a popular
(16:12):
presidential candidate who was assassinated. Of course, nothing here indicates
that Nelson and Gladys Gonzales were targeted any way, because
most people were not shot and assassinated. Immigration officials say
Nelson Gonzalez applied for asylum in nineteen ninety two. This
is three years later. If you remember, in the past year,
(16:34):
all the people at the border who wanted asylum applied
for asylum right at the border. Some of them applied
while they were still in Mexico. So he gets here
and then waits three years. Then his case is closed
in June of nineteen ninety eight when he fails to
attend an interview. So being here legally wasn't that important
to him. He didn't show up for the asylum interview
(16:56):
nine years after he arrived. In the summer of nineteen
ninety eight, an immigration judge also found that Gladys Gonzales
his wife, had no legal basis to stay, so he
skips out on his asylum interview nine years later. She's
got no legal basis to say, so, it says a judge.
They dragged out the case for a couple more years. Finally,
(17:19):
an immigration judge in March of two thousand said get out,
and they agreed to leave the country, but instead they
tried to get another appeal for each of their cases.
Whatever this appeals process was, it finally ended in twenty
(17:39):
twenty one, and on February twenty first of this year,
they were detained while a final order of removal was
being processed. They were told to get out for sure
twenty five years ago. Their appeals process ended four years
(17:59):
ago after dragging on for twenty one years, and sometime
in March they were put on a plane back to
their native country. That is paragraphs twenty four to twenty
nine of the story. Now you've been in the news
business for a while, should those paragraphs have been moved
up to maybe paragraph three to eight.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I mean, Ruben Vivez.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
And what your belief is absolutely right exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It's it's not taking a political side on this. It's
like I wanted to know the story, and only because
I do this for a living and know what the
La Times is up to, I toughed it out and
read all the way to paragraph twenty four before the
truth was told. So anybody who didn't make it to
paragraph twenty four saw this emotional, emotionally manipulative story to
(18:51):
make it sound like the Trump administration is being cruel
and mean.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
To these people.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Well, people could decide that on their own, but you've
got to give them the facts up front. I don't
think it's particularly cruel and mean when you sit here
for thirty five years, when you're told to get out
twenty five years ago, when you don't show up for
your interview, when the wife never had any legal basis
to stay. They give me a break. Rubin Vivez and
(19:20):
the La Times editors, once again, it's deception. It's a slanted,
biased presentation that leaves you with the wrong impression.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
We'ron every day one until four o'clock. After four o'clock
John Cobelt's show on demand on the iHeart app, and
you can hear what you missed. A few years ago,
all the rage were these genetic testing companies where you
spit a tube, mail your spit in a short time.
Later you get a detailed genetic analysis of where you
(20:00):
came from, and increasingly it tells you about the likelihood
that you have certain characteristics or you don't have certain characteristics.
Twenty three and Me was really popular. It was a
startup some years ago and then it went public and
(20:23):
it has a tremendous amount of data human genetic information
from around the world, and it's gone bankrupt. One of
the problems is that for most people, you only do
one spit in the tube and that's it. You only
pay them onths and I guess they're running out of
(20:43):
customers who care about this. We're going to get Alex
Stone on from ABC News because the California Attorney General
has issued a warning, a direction to people saying if
you have genetic information with twenty three and me, you
got to do something. Alex hey hey, John. Yeah, they
filed for bankruptcy today. The CEO resigned and not a
(21:05):
complete surprise. There were signs that there were problems a
couple months ago. In November, forty percent of twenty three
and meters staff was laid off. But as you mentioned,
the problem being, you know, companies in general have tried
to go to a membership set up, so whether it
be your streaming service or Microsoft Office. Now typically you
don't just buy the software like he used to. They
(21:26):
want the monthly subscription for access to it because it
keeps that revenue coming in. But the problem with twenty
three and me and others like it that once you
found out that you were hey, look I did it.
Once I found out that I was mostly German and
from the from the UK, I went, oh, okay, well
that was interesting, and I'm not paying monthly to find
(21:46):
out anymore to know that I'm if I'm predisposed to
a bold spot, or if cilantro tastes like soap, and
you know all the other things that they tell you
based on your DNA. Well you know what it told me, Yeah,
that vegetables taste harsh to me, which I look at
some of them and go, no, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yes, so they miss on a few of them.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, And so they tried to come up with other
health related things to get people to pay monthly or
yearly for it, and people didn't want to do it,
so they have gone bankrupt. California's Attorney General Rob Bonta
now warning that the company could be on the verge
of collapse and that if you were a customer of
twenty three and meters, then you may want to take
action under California law, that they are headquartered in California,
(22:30):
that they're under our law here and secure your DNA
and get them to delete it. We talked to Anya Prints,
a professor at the University of Iowa College of Law,
and she told.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Us the privacy policy itself says that in the case
of sale or bankruptcy, the consumer data goes with the
new company. And furthermore, the privacy policy says that it
can be changed at any time. And so there's a
chance that consumers are comfortable without twenty three and ME
is currently using their data, but that they might not
be comfortable with how a new company would slightly alter
(23:03):
the privacy policy.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
And so that's the thing. You may not know what
a new company is going to do with your data.
They may liquidate where different parts of it are going
to be sold off. They would be an attractive company
for all of the DNA data on so many people
globally that they've got, and all of those samples that
they've already got, what are they going to do with those?
So the AG is telling twenty three in meter customers
(23:25):
that you should think about under what you are afforded
under the law to go into the settings of twenty
three and meters, download a PDF copy of your twenty
three and meters report so that you've got it, you
paid for it. You might as well keep that forever
if you want to go back and look at it,
and then in the settings go until twenty three and
ME to stop sharing your data, delete your data, delete
(23:46):
the sample that they may be holding on to for
future use, and delete your account if you just want
to get rid of it. We talked to another expert,
Dina Goldberg. She works in genetics, and says, you know,
all of these sites, including twenty three and ME, they've
got these con forms you may or may not know
that you agreed to at the beginning, allowing them or
telling them no that you don't want them to share
(24:07):
your data with third party companies. But it's presented as
for research and for health data, and it will help
you refine everything. So a lot of people said, sure,
you know, if it's going to be very limited use
for health and learning my health of the future, sure
go ahead and do it. She says, you got to
know what you're.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Okay anytime you are giving your data, your biological specimen
to any commercial company or really any company at all,
it is something to consider what they're doing with that information.
And typically when we're talking about genetic information, it usually
is stored very securely and usually there's consent forms to
(24:47):
sign and to fill out that will explain what they're
doing with your data.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
And there are on twenty three and me, but you
want to go into the settings and unclick the consent
to share. So twenty three meters says in a statement
that it does not share customer data with a third
party without your consent, the many people have given that
consent and that it will comply with all genetic privacy
laws moving with whatever goes on here, and then it
will keep DNA data confidential. But it looked like John
(25:11):
before the bankruptcy, they were trying to go private. But
the future of the company is unknown today. Shares have
been in a free fall recently and today especially. And
I mean this was a big deal Oprah's Favorite Things
a number of years ago, and everybody was doing it
and on Amazon Prime days you'd get big discounts.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
You do it, you do it once.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, Like I never thought that a company like this
could go bankrupt, But I guess you hit a limit
of how many people in the world want to spend
the money and go through the trouble. Yeah, and they
tried to do all kinds of medical research things and
to get in the world, you know, the bio world
of well it could be used for this and that,
and seems like they've kind of hit a wall. But
they do have a huge amount of your data and
(25:51):
my data. And I did it, my parents did it,
so you know, everybody those who took part, and there
are many who did that, their data is in there.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And now what's what's going to go on with it?
Where's it going to go? You know what?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
The latest update I got, yeah from I didn't do
twenty three and me, but the service I went with,
I got an update. I'm very likely to smell asparagus odor. Yeah,
that's that one's on twenty three and me as well.
I think it says that I do smell it, and
guess I do smell it. Yeah, and you mentioned cilantro.
(26:27):
I have a moderate chance of disliking cilantro.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Don't we all smell asparagus if we eat it and
we pee.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
No, Apparently people don't have the the end time to
smell it. Yeah, there is a part of the population
that doesn't smell it. Here you go, bitter sensitivity. Bitter sensitivity.
M wait at the extreme end, my little green dot
on the graph all the way at the far right,
which is what why I can't eat vegetables because they
all taste bitter. And I'm smelling asparagus everywhere too. Mindset,
(26:58):
I think I'm eighty eight percent more Neanderthal than most
of the population. That soun's about right. I don't even
know what that means, but that sounds about right. I'm
probably at one hundred and ten there. I was considered
you civill wise, all right, very good, Alex, thanks for
coming on. You got it later ninety three percent from
Eastern Europe, Poland, and then four percent the Baltics, which
(27:21):
is Lithuanian, and I say two percent Jewish. Really yeah,
so I fit in with the rest of the crew here.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Welcome to the tribe. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
You know I never did that.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You never did the.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
And I was. I keep thinking about doing it. I
also wanted to do it for my dogs, and then
I just your dogs as well.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
My son did it for our dog. Yeah, and they
actually sent him pictures of other dogs. He's related to
that's so cool, and all the dogs looked insane, Well,
your dog is insane, Like if dogs could.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Look like serial killers, all of them did.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well you from what you've told me about.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, I know it's a little he's deranged. All right,
are coming up?
Speaker 7 (28:01):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Coming up after two o'clock. We're gonna have a Jamie
Page on from the West Side Current. They claim there's
there's very early data from the Greater Los Angeles homeless count.
They're claiming that's a drop of thirty six hundred. God,
here's another phrase, unsheltered individuals. These were, in other words,
(28:29):
the street homeless. All right, the crazy people that terrify you.
There's thirty six hundred fewer across the region. That's across
the region. Well, there's seventy thousand across the region. So
this is a five percent drop, which means we've spent
billions of dollars to cut into five percent of the
(28:53):
homeless total. Well that's that's not good. Uh, that's that's bad.
Billions of dollars. This would take us at this rate
twenty years, assuming no other homeless people move into the city,
which they are every day. It would take twenty years
to get rid of everybody. And let me guess they're
going to be doing victory lapse on this. Well, we're
(29:13):
going to talk with Jamie Page coming up after two
o'clock from the west side current. This is funny. Have
you ever gone to chichen Itza. It's the pyramids in
Mexico that the Mayan's built. I've gone there, and they're big,
beautiful pyramids. I mean, the construction is different, but it's
(29:35):
the same idea as the ones in Egypt. You may
want to go here because you're never going to see
the ones in Egypt.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
You're not supposed to climb up the stairs. And one
guy started scaling up the side of the pyramid.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Why aren't you supposed to go upstairs?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Well, it's a sacred spot.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Why are there stairs?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Well it was built thousands of years ago.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Okay, stairs, I'm thinking with the railing.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Oh no, no, no, no, these are.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
It's it's it's okay, it's not it's not modern.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Very steep, it very very steep, and it's very dangerous
and it's a violation of the sanctity of the of
the temple. Now, nine thousand tourists came to the temple
just on Thursday. It's a huge attraction. And Thursday was
(30:28):
the spring equinox, so there's probably some very meaningful in
that part of the world.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And the Mins built this well.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
One guy, thirty eight year old German tourist, he he
climbs up, the security guards chase him and then he
tries to hide inside a pyramid chamber. But he was
found and escorted out. But the locals were so angry
they shouted that he should be sacrificed because thousands of you,
(31:01):
thousands of years ago, the minds used to engage in
human sacrifices. They would carry them out on top of
the pyramid. That's just the beginning right then, and then
you get you get, you get sacrificed. That sounds like
it would hurt. So if you go to chichen Itza
(31:23):
to the pyramid, don't because the crowd will turn down
you real fast. They have no problem. I guess was
setting you on fire. Yeah, when we come back, we
had a lot of good stuff next hour because thirty
six hundred fewer homeless in the streets after billions and
billions of dollars. If you believe the numbers, it's only
(31:46):
a five percent hit on the total. We're gonna have
Daniel Guss on And apparently there's a few speakers who
show up at city council meetings in LA and they
start shout outing the N word and the C word,
and nobody can seem to stop them, and the city
(32:06):
council president is trying to But that's a violation of
First Amendment rights.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
It's public, it's a public meeting.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
And also Daniel Gus I exchanged some emails. I was
even working on Sunday. Wow, I was sending emails to
Daniel Guss and he was sending him back about inside
story on this absurd parking Enforcement agency situation where Karen
Bass found a way to lose sixty five million dollars
(32:33):
in the past year, sixty five million handing out parking tickets,
not making it up, sixty five million dollar loss just
on parking tickets. We'll explain how that could be. Got
some more insider information. Deborah Mark is live in the
CAFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to
the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear the
show live on KFI Am six forty from one to
(32:55):
four pm every Monday through Friday, and of course anytime
on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
The John Kobylt Show News
Host
John Kobylt
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.