Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can'f I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
We're on from one until four, then after four o'clock
John Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app. And
we are going to be talking to Janet Win in
just a second. Janet Win is a state senator. It
has been discovered that buried deep within a document by
the California Air Resources Board, there's going to be about
(00:26):
a dollar's worth of extra gas tax over the next
two years. If you rounded off, it's about fifty cents
in twenty twenty five, fifty cents in twenty twenty six.
This was buried in something that passed way back in
two thousand and seven. That would have been the Schwarzenegger
years where he fell in love with the global warming cult,
and all these years later, these massive gas taxes are
(00:49):
going to kick in called a low carbon fuel standard.
So let's see what's going on. Janet Win. Welcome, How
are you?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Good?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Thank you John, How are you? Thank you for having
me before we talk about the gas tax I just
want to thank you personally and your audience, because remember
I came on a few weeks a month or two ago.
In regard to the animal welfare bills, well, are both
of our bills have passed the committee and it's heading
to the Senate floor. And so it's a huge heart
for us to get to this point. And I want
(01:20):
to thank you for being the voice of animals because
they don't have a voice, and we are their voices.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Well, thank you very much, the voice of animals. And
take that on the voice of animals.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
We talked, well, no, let's not do that. But you know,
in terms of the gas tax, I've got a couple
of updates. You've helped us publicize, you know, the forty
seven cents gas tax incre next year, and the news
has gone ever as you mentioned. So now I have
(01:55):
a petition that I'm asking your viewers uh listeners to
feel and hopefully send it back to us electronically so
then we can go right to CARB. We want them
to do two things. One is analyzed these price increases
and two is be transparent to the public. And the
(02:15):
second update to this is that we I've joined twenty
five legislators and we wrote a letter to CARB this
week and we demand, of course transparency over the whole
scheme of them hitting us with the secret tax increase.
They're not transparent, and we all know that carb ones is,
(02:37):
you know, the EV tax and not you know, when
you talk about EV tax, which is the car the
low carb it's the forty seven cents that we talked
about for next year, which remember we are currently only
paying twelve cents right now per gallon. It's going to
be forty seven cents next year. And it's ongoing that
we haven't even talked about the cap and trade. There's
(02:58):
so many taxes going on in the gas that it's
hidden and no one talks about it, and no one
knows about it.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, I mean, we're talking about a dollar extra in
gas taxes extra two years from now, by twenty twenty
six that we're going to be paying. And all this
stuff passed a long time ago. Nobody admits to it,
nobody remembers it. I don't think anybody was aware of
it at the time. And even if we were aware
of it, no one's going to be interested in a
tax that comes seventeen years later. So it gets it gets,
(03:29):
it's forgotten, it's lost in the mist, gets lost in
the miss.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
And most people think that when they pump gas. That
task it's just a state gas tax and a fetal
gas task. They don't think of, oh, there's a carbon tax,
there's a cap and trade tax. It's a tax on
the tax, and it's gone to the point where it
is just eating up everything in our life. Everything costs
(03:57):
more because as you know, and as we talked about,
is that everything needs to be transported, and that transportation
needs to be either by truck or by diesel truck.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And the diesel tax is even worse.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
A diesel tax is even worse. It's almost sixty cents
by next year, just diesel tax. So that doesn't talk
about any other taxes. That's why California gasoline per gallon
right now is over five dollars across or state, but
yet the country is just about three dollars.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, I think I found six I looked up.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I know we're more expensive in Hawaii by a lot,
by about sixty cents, but went I went through the states.
If you go to the Triple A and just like
Google triple A state by state gas prices, you'll get
the list, and there was about sixteen states that was
roughly two full dollars or more cheaper than California's base price.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Oh yeah. And that's the thing is that California, we
continue this direction and we don't call out these resources
boards and tell them to be transparent and be honest
about these price increases that they don't want us to
know because they somehow think that it's actually working. Their
goal is to force everybody in California to buy an EV.
(05:17):
Which fine, you want to force us buy an EV.
But you know what is horrible, John, is that if
everybody in California today has an EV, and if we
all went home today and pump gass and charge our cars,
we plug it in, we would shut down the entire
grid of California.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Right, So, I mean the system we're not even ready
for it. No, No, the system has not been built yet.
We don't have an electrical grid for it, we don't
have charging stations for it. The range for most of
the EV's not good. They're really expensive, and the market
for them is cratering. I mean, much of the rest
of the country is off that bandwagon. And here we're
(05:59):
stuck with this ridiculous mandate and we're stuck with with
and they're they're penalizing us on purpose to try to force.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Us into an electric vehicle.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And it's infuriating, and I don't understand why the public
does not rebel against this. I mean, at two bucks
more a gallon. And then Newsom stands up there and
lies and claims it's the oil companies gouging us. So
they only gouge drivers in California. You cross the Arizona border,
they don't want to gouge anybody there.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I mean, it's so stupid.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Yep, it's not. It's not the oil company the extra
additional taxes and all the regulations in California. It's not working.
We need something else. And the consequences of trying to
go one hundred percent ev we don't even we don't
have infrastructure ready for it. So it fogles my mind
(06:53):
as well. We need we need the public. We need
them to get their voices out and scream a hard
join me and let's tell them enough is enough, tell
us what the price is increased is going to be,
and be transparent about it.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Okay, So we put this on Twitter, So you want
to go to the John coblt Show Twitter feed and
you will see this questionnaire and it'll be self explanatory
what to do? Yes, okay, and then we can start
putting putting pressure here on carb and the legislature because
this is this is really the unemployment rate we just
(07:33):
were talking about this last hour, highest in the country
California is an unemployment rate, and the inflation rate is
very high. This is going to cause more unemployment and
more inflation because every single product that gets delivered by
a truck, it's going to cost more to deliver it,
so it'll cost more when you purchase it.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And nobody else is doing this stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Meantime, mister Greenhouse Gases is taking a private jet to
the Vatican to complain about climate change.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I mean, spending the week in Italy.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Carpet about how how how we we fouled the atmosphere.
I mean, it's so infuriating. I don't know when the
world wakes up to this, to this bozo. All right, Janet,
thanks for coming on with.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Us, Thank you for having me John, And.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Go to the Twitter feed and you'll see, uh what
Janet when is talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
They're looking for some support.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It's just a it's just a quick questionnaire demands that
Janet is making of the California Air Resources Board, which
is this Soviet style UH commission that we never voted for.
We don't vote for the members. The governor UH appoints
these people. And it's completely nuts. It's a it's a
(08:51):
it's a dollar extra of a gas tax, and UH,
you know, we're there's to be there's going to be
pushback and there's going to be propaganda. But this is
not something anybody should have to pay for. The cost
of living is high enough in California. We don't need
another dollar a gallon that's twenty dollars a tank that's
(09:13):
one thousand dollars a year. You got one thousand dollars
just to pay some goofy gas tax. Because because they
have this obsession with electric vehicles, the government should never
be involved in something like this. If a manufacturer has
an electric vehicle and the public wants it, then the
public can buy it. But you have to have the
charging stations, you have to have the arrange, you have
(09:36):
to have a demand for it. Even demand demand for
Tesla's are out creating in California.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
All right, we'll continue here.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
We're on from one until four after four o'clock John
Cobelt Show on demand. It's the podcast version and you
could listen to whatever you missed. We're going to talk
now with that Alex and Daisy Dela Rosa. They are
husband and wife and they took it upon themselves to
start filling potholes because I guess the Compton government, like
(10:15):
most governments around here, they don't do their job. I
guess the guys in the pothole yard are I don't know,
playing poker, going to the strip club, I don't know,
but they're not filling the potholes. And so Daisy Dela
Rosa and Alex were filling their own. So you think
(10:37):
that would embarrass the city. And they'd say, geez, we're sorry, guys,
stay home, we'll take care of it. We'll do it ourselves.
We'll reimburse you for your trouble. No, they get a
lawyer to write a cease and desist letter, a ceased
desist letter because the Dela Rosas are trying to fill
the potholes so that their cars and everyone else's cars
(10:58):
don't get wrecked. Well, we're going to talk to Daisy
Dealer Rossa now to tell us the story. Daisy, how
are you? You're on ky? I'm good. I love this story.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
So tell me.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I guess you and your husband have driven to a
lot of damaging potholes lately.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Huh oh yeah, if five, you would only know we
have approximately from fifteen to twenty thousand dollars and just
repairs in the last five years or so that we've
been independent contractors and working as four years within the city.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Your your job is to deliver things, so you're on
the road all day and your vehicles hit a lot
of potholes.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Correct. We actually worked seven days a week, so you know,
it's a big toll on our car.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And how much money have you spent on repairs so far?
Speaker 6 (11:51):
On one far, we have from fifteen to twenty thousand dollars?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Oh my god? So what is it?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Your your wheel alignments, your tires, the axle, what's what's
the damage?
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Actual suspensions, wheels, the bad joint, water mounts. One time
we fell like really really hard, was really deep and
it posed a radiator, so we had to change the radiator.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
And this is from the rough roads.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
That's that's amazing, all right, So what kind of pothole
filling operation. Did you and your husband have explain how
you did it?
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Well, we went a honey at first. We he looked
up how to fix the potholes, and then from there
we just literally went a honeypot. Spent four hundred dollars
on our first trip seeing what we needed, which was
basic needs for him to start a little shovel, gloves,
a can, compressor, and the asshole itself, and we went
(12:50):
from there. He went off and we went back to
our driveway and he's seen the pothole, He's like park, oh,
you know, like right near to it. He started cleaning it.
He busted off like all the dirt and then from
there he he opened like the asshole back to poured
it in. Then he started compressing it by hand, by hand.
(13:11):
And to this day, after all their brains, they're they're
holding strong.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
And your asphalt patches are holding right.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Yes, there are very very strong.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
So you went where did you go to buy bags
of asphalt? We went home depot. So that's all you
have to is go to home depot by.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Bag of asphalt and shovel and uh, and you have
your own patching business going on here.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
So uh.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
The city of Compton. They didn't thank you for doing
all this work. They didn't apologize for having to make
you do the work. Instead, you got what in the mail.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
We got a season assist letter.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
And was it Did they threaten you?
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Well, that's what practically the whole letter was. It's either
you stop and or we're gonna, you know, give you
a citations, or we're going to sue you and you're
going to be liable for anybody we'll get in a
car accident where within those pathos that you fill in,
apparently we're violating city codes or something. Yeah, okay, you're liable.
(14:09):
Then when I fixed on yourself and in that case,
return of the money that I haven't rested in my
vehicle since you're liable, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, well, so you have ten thousand dollars worth of
damage to your vehicles.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
But they're threatening you with a lawsuit, right, you know.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
And I'm not asking them for anything. We're not asking
them for anything. Everything that we have received has been
a sponsor sponsorship from companies that have come out and
filled out PAHO with us and from the community, which
well we've been having all the support.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
From oh oh, you've had you've had other people in
your neighborhood do this as well.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
I there's people who two people who actually came out
and helped him fill in the pothole, and the res
have them sending money through cash appell or.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
The This is what we have to do.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
We have to do our own street repair because the
cities don't respond, LA doesn't respond, Compton doesn't respond. What
are we supposed to do? Just blow another other? You know,
ten thousand dollars uh, trying to get.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
The car repaired. I mean they make they make it
impossible simply because they refuse to do the job.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
They have bags of asphalt, they have shovels, they have vehicles.
They could do this, they choose not to. They're lazy,
they don't care.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Yes, exactly what we're saying. And the thing is that recently,
since we brought over like the spotlight and since they
went viral and you know where, everything we're doing is
a positive outlet for Compton, besides everything negative that everybody
talks about Compton. And we've seen like the public works
recently throwing asshole on the potholes. But their technique will
(15:46):
not hold because they only go and pour the asshole
with the shovel and then let the cars, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Just flatten it out.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Eventually, they don't, they don't use the correct technique for
them to last. How are ours lasting on after three
weeks to rain and there's come out within the first rain.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, so you do better pothole patching than the Compton
Public Works Department. I'm looking up online public Works street maintenance.
The Street Maintenance Division mission is responsible for the maintenance
of roadway, sewers and streetscapes, and the major responsibility is
to maintain public facilities and provide safety for residents and businesses,
(16:29):
including maintaining.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Sidewalks and streets. So that's their mission, and they don't
do it exactly.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
And if you see them, like if you were actually
like on the street like we are every single day,
you'll see them parts under a park, under a tree,
sleeping with their feet up. They just recently got new cars.
And I'm like, but they're supposed to be working, right, they're.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Supposed to taking.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Care of our cities. But we're doing wrong because we're
doing this on top of our job, on top of
our kids, on top of our family. No.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, and they're sleeping with their feed up. They parked
it under under a tree. They're in the shade seat
back feed up and you and your husband are out
there shoveling asphalt. And then they come and send you
a nasty lawyer letter. But they ought to be ashamed
of themselves. I'm telling you. Government workers are just so
(17:21):
stinking lazy, and the bureaucrats too. They just nobody cares
at all. Hey, I noticed on the street maintenance page,
I don't see any names here. I don't see the
names of who runs this department exactly.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
I believe it's the city council or the city manager.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I believe that that's you.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
See who the city manager is here.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
Yeah, And he was the most upset because on the
city council meetings where residents are able to go were
he was really upset. How we I already talked to
them directly. I'm like, when was this. I even turned
to my husband, I was like, did you receive a call? Although,
because we never received anything. Oh in their lines for
your faith, you know, and they're staying and we call them,
(18:03):
we have never.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Received the call.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
I can't believe those first as yourself or news station,
the La Times, like all these newspapers universities are getting
the handle us directly to our cell phone, but the
city can't give us a call.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, Willie Hopkins is his name? Willie Hopkins. All right,
I've got to go. We got to do the news.
Daisy Dela Rosa. Congratulations for all the good work you're doing.
All right, and if you have any more to the story,
let us know. We'll put you back on.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
All right, that's great, thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, I'm going to look up this Willie Hopkins, the
city manager.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
We're on from one until four, after four o'clock. You
miss something happens, well we have a makeup. We have
a makeup clatch after four o'clock gets posted on the
iheartab Cobelt's show on demand.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Well, you know the story.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Jackie Lacy was the La County DA for eight years
and she was really good, and then George Gascone in
that ridiculous, stupid year twenty twenty beat her. She was
running for a third term and Gascone just unleashed all
kinds of hell on people in La County. And I
think things are coming crashing down on him. Now, Nathan
(19:26):
Hakman is running a strong campaign against him, and today
Hawkman received the endorsement of Jackie Lazy, and I think
it's a really powerful endorsement and.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
We're gonna have Jackie on now. Jackie Lazy, welcome. How
are you well.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
It's good to hear your voice. I'm doing fine. How
you doing? Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
No, it's really good to have you on because you've
been very quiet the last few years while Gascone has
been dismantling the justice system, and I often wondered what
you thought about what was going on.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
So now I've got you. What have you.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
What's been going through your mind the last four years
watching him do his thing.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
You know, when I left office, of course I lost,
and I took that as a message from the majority
of the voters, and so I deliberately said, you know,
I'm done with politics. Them out. I'm gonna keep my
mouth shut. This is what you want, this is what
you get, and enjoy my private life. But you know,
unfortunately I suffered tragedy, lost my husband to pancreatic cancer,
(20:31):
and my mother also was diagnosed with cancer. And you know,
I've just been sitting there and and I I see
some of the stuff that's happening in the DA's office.
I know it's wrong. I know that. You know, some
of the justifications are are you know, their misstatements they
(20:53):
reflect a lack of knowledge about the criminal justice system
or a lack of will to protect us. And so
you know, I waited. I mean, there were a lot
of people in the primary that I thought would make
good das, including Nathan Happen. And so when he came in,
when he came through as one of the top two,
and I saw how poorly Gascone did, I said, you know,
(21:16):
now's the time speak up, speak up and say something,
because I did that job. You know, I did that
job for eight years, and I can tell when miss
you know, malfeasans and and just incompetence is happening. So
to the degree the voters still care or listen to me,
I'm going to speak my mind.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
What do you think happened in twenty twenty, Because it
never occurred to me that year that you would lose,
just because I thought you had done such a good
job and you had such a good profile here in
Los Angeles. I never remember anybody complaining about you, and well, well,
(22:00):
all right up to the point of the campaign, and
then you had the Black Lives Matter protesters outside your house,
and there was criticism that you hadn't prosecuted cops and
this and that. But for the first seven years you really,
you really were doing the work head.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Down, and.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
You know, nothing out of the ordinary, I guess, is
what I'm saying. I mean, every DA gets some criticism
along the way, it's part of the job. But I
just didn't think that yours was a particularly controversial or
scandalous turned is that?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, you know, look I almost went. I mean, I
just felt like I lost by a lot, but I lost.
I think twenty twenty it was a convergence of things.
That was the George Floyd murder. I think it was
BLM showing up on our doorstep and my husband confronting
them with the gun. They use that politically. I do
(22:56):
think that the I think it was twelve million dollars
from two independent groups campaigning for a gascon chose to
paint me, as you know, someone who was not effective
on police shootings. They saw a window of opportunity, wanted
(23:16):
George in and that's that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Seems like they created some kind of hysteria. I mean
much of twenty twenty was about hysteria in a lot
of ways. With the with the lockdown, the protests. I mean,
it was an emotionless surge they took over.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yea many people.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, it was. You know, remember COVID had happened, and
people were quarantined, they were not working, they were home.
They the murder of George Floyd was was shocking as
it should be, and many people just uh, you know,
(23:58):
just just sort of wanted change without realizing the change
they were getting. I mean, they didn't know about his
record in San Francisco, that people in San Francisco had
had complaints about him, and so he comes down here,
does himselves off. And like I said, with that kind
(24:20):
of money coming into the race, you can pretty much
destroy anybody's reputation.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Was there things you wish you had done differently in
the campaign?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
No, I felt like I thought as hard as I could.
You know, of course I go back over into my
mind and think, were they're different things? But I think
it was just the circumstances. I think, you know, with
fate in some sense, in some sense, While I'm sad
about what happened to our safety in La County. It
(24:53):
was a blessing in disguise because I got to spend
what what I didn't know would be a year with
my husban been before he was diagnosed with pancratic cancer.
So I'm grateful that I had that year at home
with him because I would have been working, and quite frankly,
when he got diagnosed, I would have had to resign
from the office. But no, I mean in campaigns it's
(25:16):
you know, it's like that Star Wars scene where Luke
Skywalker is blindfolded with a saber sword and trying to fight,
you know, this this thing that is larger than he is,
and trying to rely on his instinct. It was difficult,
but I did my best. I tried to explain to
(25:37):
people what electing this particular person was going to do
to their safety, and said it out loud many many times,
and people, just the majority of people felt that, you know,
then maybe I was crying wolf and that you know,
they want to change.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Has anybody come up to you since then, after seeing
what that kind of havoc that the guests going is
r on Ella County and said, Jackie, you were right
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, yeah, actually more than more than you would imagine.
I even had a protester come back to me. A
guy was part of the protests. If I I'll come
back to being apologized and say I just didn't know.
I didn't realize what was going on. Yeah, no, it's out.
I really serious, it was out. I'm out hanging my
(26:28):
Christmas light, minding my own business with my handyman. And
guy with purple hair, you know, comes over, a young guy.
Young man says, you know, are you Jackie Legs? You know?
Of course I'm just like, well, who wants to know?
And yeah, but no, I do get that. I get
that from my neighbors. I get in Granada Hills. You know,
(26:49):
we're we're seeing a rise in crime here. We're all
scared about what's happening. And yeah, occasionally I get that
from people and that and that's why when I look,
when I when I endorse Nathan Hawkman, I said, look,
if you vote for me, vote for Nathan Hawkman. Or
if you, in hindsight now realize you should have voted
(27:10):
for me, vote for Nathan Hawkman. You know he's not
a tough on crime guy. He is compassionate, he's fair,
but it's up to the prosecutor to discourage criminal activity.
And if you have someone who's sort of weak at that,
of course the criminals are going to be embold of course,
of course they're going to say, wait a minute, I
(27:31):
mean I can get away with all this. Then of
course they're going to go out and commit crime.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
So can you hang on for another segment?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Sure, I'll talk more specifically about what you really like
about Nathan Hockman and what the worst mistakes you think
Gascone has made are the worst parts of his policy.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Oh, we got Jackie Lacy.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
She was a great DA for La County for eight
years from twenty twelve to twenty twenty, lost to Gascon
in that year, and now Hawkman is taking young Gascon
and Jackie Lacy went public with her endorsement.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
We continue with Jackie Lacey, former La County DA for
eight years from twenty twelve to twenty twenty. She's lost
to Gascone that year, and now she's back in the
public eye endorsing Nathan Hackman today against Gascone in November.
So what do you like about Nathan Hockman because you
(28:31):
were you.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Well, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah. I want people to know that this is just
not some politician. I've known him personally for over a decade.
It's been with his family at events. I've talked to
him in depth, so I know I know the guy.
What I like about Nathan is, first of all, I
like the fact, among anythings that you know, he's tried
(28:56):
over one hundred cases the current administration that you know,
I mean gas Colin had never been to court, never
tried a case. And I think when you're making decisions
about some of the high profile cases and trying not
to make mistakes, it's important for you to know how
the facts are going to play out in the you know,
(29:18):
in the courtroom. I also like John that he was
president of the City of Los Angeles Ethics Commission. I mean,
not a day, not a week goes why where you
probably aren't reporting on someone violating ethics, someone fealing, someone lying,
someone doing something they shouldn't be doing. And I like
the fact that he knows those laws well, he's going
(29:39):
to follow them. And also like the fact that while
he understands that with certain criminal behavior, you've got to
meet it head on and be stern about it. But
he also understands that criminal justice reform has to be executed,
but it has to be done in a very thoughtful
and meaningful manner.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
People don't know what that means, that that phrase criminal
justice reform. You had Gascon's version of it, which has
been a disaster, and so people get leery when they
hear the phrase.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
It's like, well, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
You're going to let everybody out and they're going to
run amock what would be I mean, what do you
think Nathan Hockman is talking about or what are you
personally talking about when you use that phrase?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
You know, what I'm talking about is addressing people who
have a mental health concern. You're actually you're right on
the money when people say they don't know what criminal
justice reform is. But the truth of the matter is
is in the LA Office, we've been doing criminal justice
reform for years or twenty thirty years, in the sense
of drug courts where instead of sending someone to jail,
(30:47):
you say, look, go to these classes and we'll dismiss
the case after that, you know, sort of leveraging them
into support or looking at things like those who are
wrongfully convicted, should we give them an avenue to have
their case reviewed? In short, it's about improving or changing,
(31:08):
if you will, changing the criminal justice system. But when
it's not done right, the change could be disasters. It
can harm us, and that's what you're seeing now. But
if it's done well, you see success stories without people
getting hurt by folks who just aren't ready to be
out in our society for one reason or another. Uh.
(31:30):
And so really, I think that's the best way to
look at it. It's changing it, and it's supposed to
be changing it for the better, not the worst, if
it's done right.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
What are a couple of things that Gascone did that
really either scared you, made you just shake your head,
made you angry? Were what were some of the policies
that you just couldn't believe.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I was stunned on the first day when he ordered
UH prosecutors to no longer attend me parole hearings. I
thought that was wrong. His rationale was, it wasn't our job.
And so you have now victims or victims families who
have to go into prison and faith be in the
(32:14):
same room with the person who either killed their killed
their loved ones, or who violated them and argue against
the lies that prisoners sometimes put forth about what happened
and their crime and their rehabilitation. There is no one
else other than if they hire use their own money
(32:35):
to hire a private lawyer that will be in there
with them. I thought that was the worst. I also thought,
you know, wholesale getting away doing away with gun enhancements
in La County, doing away with gang enhancements in La County,
you know, doing away with hate crime enhancements. I mean,
he's finally walked that back, but it's only with the
(32:58):
hate crime. Somebody had to the protest against him, and
then he walked that back. I think that was egregious.
But I also think there's stuff that you wouldn't know
about unless you really follow the board of supervisors. Hear
the millions that this person has cost us in taxpayer
(33:19):
money that could have been used on things like the
homeless crisis. This administration is burning through money left and
right because of costly mistakes. Well example is they filed
the case on someone who had to do with voter
fraud some company, and that company that person owned the
(33:40):
company sued them and the board ended up giving them
five million dollars to someone. You know, there's such thing
as prosecutoral immunity, so that means they must have screwed
that case up so bad that the board ran scared
gave them five million dollars. The other thing is employees
who have sued civil servants that he has, you know,
(34:00):
that he has crapt over because they dared to speak
the truth to the king, so to speak. And that
you know, that's that's taxpayer money. I mean, you know,
only a couple of them now have been litigated, and
he's lost them. He's lost one and he's settled one,
and then he lost the other one a one point
five dollars. There's about a dozen more left on top
(34:22):
of that. With this recent charging of Diana Taran, one
of his top people in the office, I'm gonna be
surprised if those officers end up suing the office for
failure to stop or catch or manage this woman who
broke the law using their names. So you know, uh,
(34:45):
there's a myriad of reasons. Maybe money is your issue,
maybe you know, maybe you feel safe. I'm not sure,
but you talk to people in Granada Hills. We're not
feeling safe. We're feeling like looking things are are are
are dangerous, no more dangerous than there were four years ago.
We don't have to go back to any tough on
crime policies, but you know what, the cost of crime,
(35:10):
you know, it's a cost of crime is too great
right now.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Jackie is out of control. It's really good talking with you.
Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Thank you, Tom.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I hope we can talk again sometime.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
All right, Jackie Lacy who was the DA for eight
years here in La County, and she's endorsing Nathan Hockman
against Gascon in November. Debra Mark live in the CAFI
twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the
John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear the show
live on KFI AM six forty from one to four
pm every Monday through Friday, and of course anytime on
(35:42):
demand on the iHeartRadio app