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November 12, 2025 28 mins

The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (11/12) - US Congressman Tom McClintock comes on the show to talk about the latest going on with the government shutdown. An assisted living facility left patients at the home during the Eaton Fire. Gov. Gavin Newsom's former Chief of Staff has been arrested by the FBI for corruption. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
If you're going to listen to the podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Two o'clock hour, we had Steve Hilton on, top candidate
for governor here in California, and he was on to
talk about Gavin Newsom's massive hypocrisy at the climate summit,
so you could listen to our number two specifically to
hear Steve Hilton. Now we've got Tom McClintock coming on
the Republican and the Congressman from Northern California who's on

(00:35):
the House floor as we speak. In fact, he may
actually vote while he's on the air here, because the
House is about to vote to end the shutdown.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Tom, how are you so?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm just fine. You know, we're in the middle of
the first vote, and then we'll vote to the rule
to bring the build of the floor, and then another
hour debate, and at that point, hopefully the government shutdown
will be over. We'll be sending that building the President.
You'll sign it hopefully before the sun rises tomorrow morning.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Can you vote and talk at the same time.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yes, yes, I can. I'm going to actually do that.
I can actually walk into them to at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, Well, I mean describe what you're doing. I know
it's really complex when you actually press a button on out.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Well. No, we're issued a voting card, which has been
called the most abused credit card in the history of
the world. You put it into one voting box or
about fifty two of them around the House floor, and
you press a red button or a green button, depending
upon your mood.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
All right, what did you make of a shutdown? It
looked like just the stupidest thing, a manageable, imaginable for
the last forty odd days.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, well, I can't imagine anything more stupid. I agree
with you. I mean, you know, it wasn't very complicated either.
I mean, anybody who remembers there's Schoolhouse rock knows that
the House Origination Appropriation Bill. It goes to the Senate.
The Senate then either amends it and sends it back
to the House or passes it on to the president. Well,
the House did its job way back on September the nineteenth,

(02:15):
we put a simple appropriation over to the Senate simply
to keep the doors open. It made no policy changes.
It merely kept the government operating at current levels that
the Democrats had agreed to back in March, while we
finished debating all the priorities that are involved in the
appropriations process. The Democrats, though, deliberately blocked the Senate from

(02:37):
doing either of those things, either amending the bill or
sending it on the president. A demanded one and a
half trillion dollars of new spending is a ransom. Finally, though,
this week, eight of them, thank god, put country ahead
of party and voted to end the madness.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Why do you think they did that? I mean, it
was their bill, It was their expiration date on the subsidies.
You're right, they did agree to it back in March.
You were just asking for seven weeks to keep the
same spending, uh and and and nothing nothing extra until
you came to various agreements.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
So why do this?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
What?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
What?

Speaker 2 (03:15):
What was the what was this? This like the secret
story that they didn't want to admit to.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Oh, it wasn't the secret story at all. They were
quite clear on this. A number of their leaders, including
Hakim Jeffries and their their WI over here. Tathleen Clark
said it very very clearly, as did a number of
the Democratic senators. They despite the fact they acknowledged it
was causing grave suffering around the country, they did it
because it was quote, their only leverage. They were planning

(03:44):
to use that, as you know, all the federal governments
for ransom for one and a half trillion dollars in
new spending. That was very very clear and everything they said,
and they thought it was working to their benefit. But
but you know is Jimmy Baylor said the other day
as he offered them this pro tip. He says, if

(04:06):
you're going to call it the Republican shutdown, you're not
not supposed to get mad. But it's ending.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, I don't know. I just thought that there had
to be another reason. I mean, this was just so silly.
You were not going to get the Republicans to agree
to a trillion and a half extra dollars for Obamacare,
which is clearly a failure anyway, I don't know what
you were smoking if you thought the Republicans were going
to go along with that.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, well, you know, I have to say, we Republicans
shut down the government for seventeen days back in twenty thirteen,
also over healthcare, and it took us seventeen days to
figure out this was a really stupid idea, and we
never did it again. It's just taking the Democrats forty
three days to come to the same conclusion.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Redistricting.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Keavin Newsom's Prop fifty passed and they're going to probably
eliminate five Republican districts, leaving four. Worst case scenario, are
you going to be one of the four? Are you
in some kind of fight in alien territory?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah? I mean I've been very fortunate it changes my
district or very minor. About eighty percent of my current
constituencies carried over in the new district, and that's true
of several other seats. But it's devastating, absolutely devastating the
whole concept of representational government. Republicans got forty percent of

(05:32):
the congressional vote in twenty twenty four. This Gavin Mander
will give them just eight percent of the seats. And
what's so frustrating is, yeah, Texas abused the process, that
is true, but Californians are protected from that sort of
abuse by the Independent Commission that Commission held one hundred

(05:54):
and ninety six public meetings, They received thirty three and
communications from Californians. They consulted every constituency in community in
the state. They spent nine months in public drafting a
consensus plan, and that's just been thrown out in favorable

(06:16):
plan that was drafted in a matter of days behind
closed doors, bipartisan zealots, and it shows little farm towns
like Lodi and Clovis are split three different ways in
order to get the desired result. Up in northern California,

(06:38):
the tiny, little farming town of Alturas is going to
have its congressmen chosen by Marine County voters three hundred
and fifty miles away. And Newsom has the has the
audacity to call this a defensive democracy. It is exactly
the opposite.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, it would be wrong to do that to democratic districts.
I think districts where the people are large Republican and
they've voted that way and they've been represented that way
for decades, that'll be allowed to have that representation. This
is our representation in Washington. I think this is so
wrong and and I do I just and I think
what Texas did was wrong.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
I mean this stuff is nonsense.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yes, and and unfortunately it has been taken now to
an art war. Uh. And and I'm afraid it now
sets the president. Whenever the Democrats don't like the way
a district votes, they'll just just redraw the district.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Do you think Newsom as a presidential candidate is going
to play in many places east of Marine County?

Speaker 3 (07:42):
No, I don't. And and and you can see that
very plainly in the in the population exodus out of California,
which is now unprecedented. Uh. People are voting with their
feet and leaving the conditions that Gavin Newsom is either
created or perpetuated by his policies. Uh. And by the way,
you're seeing that in all the states that the socialists

(08:02):
are taking control of, Illinois, New York, New Jersey, you've
seeing the same population exodus, and they're fleeing to Republican
states like Texas and Florida. Now. Put and this is
why I think Newsom is panicking. Forget about redistricting. Just
people voting with their feet and leaving socialist states for

(08:24):
free states means that in the next reapportionment, if this
trend continues, California will lose five congressional seats. Not toy districting,
but simply the people leaving and whether they're moving. Texas
is likely to gain five congressional seats, New York is
likely to lose three to Florida will gain three, Illinois

(08:47):
will lose one, Tennessee will gain one. This is simply
people fleeing the conditions that socialism always produces. Wherever they
take control, you see the same social and economic pathologies.
You see sky high taxes, failing schools, rampant homelessness, rising crime,
you see chronic shortages of basic necessities like housing, electricity, water. Ultimately,

(09:14):
you see failing businesses and cleaning families, and that I
think is why the Democrats are so panicked at this point.
It's not a question of representation. In the twenty twenty
four election, nationally, they got forty seven percent of the
congressional vote. They got forty nine percent of the congressional seats,

(09:37):
So you look nationally, Democrats actually got eight more seats
than their vote would entitled to. But obviously they're looking
at the trends and panicking.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Tom.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Thank you for coming on with us. I know you're
going to be voting very soon. And I'm glad to
shut down his ending.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
We all are. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's good talking with you again.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Tomaklinto, Congressman up in northern California, Republican. When we come back,
there are a lot of senior nursing homes and I've
been in a few, and they really don't treat people
well at many of them. Tell you a story when

(10:18):
we come back. The Altadena fire, there was one senior
care facility where they know there's two of them, two
of them where they left some of the elderly behind
to die in the fire through incompetence.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
I have a story to tell you off the air
about it, all right, I have to say it off
the air, Okay, So just remind.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
You all right now you can go ahead of tell
it now, yeah, because I've want in trouble.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
I know you do.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
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Speaker 2 (10:54):
Seems like every day it's been, it's been ten months,
and every day there's another terrible story about to it's
if it's not the government today, it's senior facilities in
the Altadena area for the Eaton fire, where two facilities
left a total of three elderly women behind to die

(11:16):
in the fire, except they didn't die. Eventually they were found,
but they were left left behind. These are assisted living facilities,
and state investigators have cited both.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Oh I love this.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Investigators cited both facilities for troubling lapses in care. Yes,
it's a troubling lapse when you leave an elderly woman
behind as a fire is bearing down. And they ordered
their homes to increase their emergency planning and training. You
mean they didn't have training on how to evacuate during

(11:51):
a fire. They didn't have training in counting, counting the patients,
you know, check in their boxes, you lot them up
in a van, you count.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
And I don't understand. This is everybody bad.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
At their job, most people, I'm really I and everything
is always more training here, you know what, more planning there.
They should be doing plenty of planning and training by now.
It's pretty simple. Go and get these elderly people and
if they can't walk out on their own, get their wheelchairs,

(12:27):
get a gurney, get something, take them out the front door.
They're better off sitting on the lawn there than being
inside a burning building. The investigations raised further questions about
how officials prepared for and responded to the firestorm raised

(12:48):
further questions. There's so many cliches and journalism raised concerns,
raised questions. Somebody has to explain, like I do I
want a name of who was who is responsible forting
heads tracking names?

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Do you really think that when the big, huge earthquake
hits southern California, the people are going to go and
care about people in nursing homes or even hospitals. You know,
my dad's been in and out of hospitals for two
months now, and I every day I wonder if a
big earthquake hits, what's going to happen to him in
a hospital? Because I see the care in some of

(13:22):
these hospitals and rehab laces when he just has to
go to the bathroom and they don't come for a
half a name.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
It's terrible, isn't it terrible?

Speaker 2 (13:29):
It's terrible what goes on in these rehab clinics and
nursing homes, assisted living, whatever.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
You want to call them.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
The quality of the employees is atrocious, it is, and.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
I don't understand why people go into.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
The field if they're not going to care about patients.
I really don't.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
I think it's.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
An emergency job for a lot of people who are
basically unemployementble yes.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
And a lot of these jobs they are minimum wage.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, well that's it too.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
You know, if you paid you know, twenty five dollars
an hour instead of whatever the minimum wage is, you
get a better quality person. And I can't believe, like
insurance doesn't cover all this stuff. Yikes, this is my
worst nightmare. I ken actually years ago clued me into

(14:18):
getting long term care insurance. Yes, so we've been paying
that for a while, so hopefully when you.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Know, I lose it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
But even people that come to your house, John, you know,
so that you don't have to go. I'm one of
those facilities. Let me tell you. I can tell you
a gazillion stories.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Oh I saw that up close too with my father
in law. Yeah, my wife.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
My wife hired somebody to help him for a time,
and the woman stole money from him. So thank you
for coming. It was really nice.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
It's unbelievable the things that I've learned in the last
few months.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
I mean, it says evacuations began at five am on
January eighth, two residents were taken by bus. Well, there
were two left behind. They did a roll call at
the evacuation center. I guess they were calling out names,
and two people didn't raise their hand because they weren't there.

(15:14):
But it would be another two hours before the deputies
returned to search the building and they finally found the
two poor ladies. One of them was one hundred years
old and she was roaming on the third floor in
a dark hallway with a walker. The flames were visible
outside the window. Come on, she lives to one hundred

(15:36):
and is left behind.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
As one of these people just don't care.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Wow, that's just that's atrocious and disgusting. And then these
people ought to be imprisoned. Really all right, we got more.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
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Speaker 2 (15:56):
Hey, we had a great lunch today or I did it?
Lee and Eric did too, Ray did too, Ray did too.
Philly's Best came by with cheese steaks. Philly's Best. They're
all over southern California. There's one here in Burbank, just
down the road from US, and I go there at
least once a week. Bob Levy is the founder of

(16:17):
Philly's Best, and he came here today to deliver cheese steaks,
and they have something new, the Cooper Classic Cheese Steak.
It is made with this is his description. But I
had this creamy, tangy Cooper Sharp cheese. It is the
it cheese in Philadelphia right now, the it cheese and

(16:39):
actually tasted really really good. And also they served it
on an authentic Philly seeded roll and it really was
one of the best cheese steaks I ever had in
my life. They've also introduced the Sharp Italian HOGI packed
with Bor's Head, Italian Meats, Cooper Sharp Cheese, and the
same seated role. You'll fight all the Philly classics in

(17:01):
stores at Pennsylvania Dutch Birch Beer.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Oh, you'll find all the Philly classic Oh, I get it.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I get it like you can get a Pennsylvania Dutch
Birch beer at Philly's Best, Tasty Cakes, Hank Soda, and
Hirst Chips twenty locations across southern California. Go to Eat
Phillies Best dot com to find your nearest shop. And
I'm telling you Eatie Cooper Classic Cheese Steak today. Okay,

(17:33):
I'm going to have one every time I go. Now,
I was immediately won over by the way. We were
just talking about how some poor elderly women were left
behind in the Altadena fire in nursing homes or assisted
living where the employees don't care what woman was one
hundred years old. I don't know why everything is so
screwed up. Did you get this yesterday before six o'clock?

(17:54):
Did your phone go off?

Speaker 3 (17:56):
No?

Speaker 5 (17:56):
But I did the story earlier today with a fake.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Warning I'm in rouse and my phone started buzzing. Now what?

Speaker 2 (18:05):
And I looked down and there was an emergency alert
from South Pasadena. I'm in I'm in Brentwood. What what
do I have to know? Unless like a nuclear blast
hit South Pasadena, then yeah, I might be affected. And
it was an emergency alert test. But somebody pressed the

(18:27):
wrong button.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
This was human error.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, how hard is it to press the right button?

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Well, it depends on how many drinks you've had.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
They must all be loaded. I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
And why would there be a button to send a
South Pasadena problem to the whole county Anyway, They did
an internal test. It's under investigation. It'll take six months
before they give you an answer, not a malfunction of
the of the system, just a human being, and the
city apologizes for.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Now.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Oh oh, this is really good. This just came over
on the New York Post. I found this moments ago,
so I have to interrupt the regular flow of the
program here.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
You're all going to enjoy this.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
A New York Post says that Gavin Newsom's former chief
of staff has been arrested today.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
I sent you that email hours ago.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
I didn't check my email. You have to tell me, okay.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Woman's name is Dana Williamson, fifty three years old. Twenty
three count federal indictment. She plotted with accomplices and she
stole two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars from an
inactive political campaign account and then funneled it into a
friend's pocket. She had a funnel right into the pocket.

(19:56):
Pockets started bulging two hundred and twenty three grand. So
she's charged with conspiracy to commit bank fraud and wire fraud,
defrauding the United States, obstructing justice, filing false tax returns,
lying to authorities. This is the chief of staff for Newsom.
The former chief of staff. FBI Sacramento Special Agent Sid

(20:20):
Patel said today's charges of the result of three years
of relentless investigative work. And Williamson was Newsom's top aid
from twenty twenty two until December twenty twenty four, plotted
with a lobbyist named Greg Campbell, a federal employee named
Sean McCluskey, and two others to siphon money from a

(20:41):
dormant campaign account into McCluskey's account for personal use. It
belonged Oh the account belonged to Xavier Besserah used to
be a congressman.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Then he was He was in.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
The Biden ininistration, he was a secretary there and now
he's running for governor. And so he left two hundred
and twenty five thousand dollars behind in a campaign account,
and this Dana Williamson helped siphon the money out.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
I tell you these people are criminals.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
You don't believe me. You think I'm just this is
hyperbole here, this is me just frothing at the mouth. No,
this is this is true. They are all criminals.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
You met. They have a photo.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
She's sitting right next to Newsom, literally at his right
hand in this photo here two hundred and twenty five
thousand dollars, she's a crook. When McCluskey was Besara's chief
of staff. So Besara's chief of staff conspired with Newsom's
chief of staff to steal.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
And one of them's the governor and the other one
wants to be governor.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
And these this is the chief of staff is the
top eight.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
That's number one on the on the hierarchy list.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
All right.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
It was disguised as faulty payments to McCluskey's wife because, uh,
he expressed a desire to have more money.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
I want more money, So that was the excuse.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
But Klusky was Besara's chief of staffing, I want more money,
and Williamson said, well, why don't we take two hundred
and twenty five thousand dollars out of his account? Nobody's
gonna notice. Wow, I guess they all got a cut.
Prosecutors said the funds were rooted through multiple business entities,

(22:39):
so they had these fake businesses to do the money laundering,
and then falsely labeled as pay for a no show
job that did not exist. Not only no one showed
up for it, the job itself didn't exist. Williamson Dana Williamson,
Newsom's chief of staff, created fake contacts to obtain COVIDD

(23:00):
loans for her company, claiming over a million dollars in
personal expenses, including private jet travel.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Well Newsom is slaving away at the climate conference.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
She she claimed a million dollars and wanted COVID loans
to cover it. It seems to be a separate crime.
She's also accused of sharing government information with a gump
with another company and lying about it to the FBI.
Before joining Newsom's inner circle, Williamson ran her own consulting firm,

(23:33):
served as a senior aide to Jerry Brown and Great Davis.
I've seen her name in political stories. She was a
top aid for Jerry Brown, Great Davis, Gavin Newsom. And
look at this million dollar phony loans she tried to
get from COVID and helped Exavier Besera's chief of staff

(23:54):
to steal two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Wow Wow, Wow wow wow.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
All right, we got to do even more of this tomorrow.
And I'm sorry I didn't see it when you send it.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
That's okay, but you got it.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
I I you know, I just I just can't you know,
hit all my.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
I come in there and told you about it.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
That's right, that's right. Uh, We've got more when we
come back.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM sixty.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Podcast will be released shortly after four o'clock. We had
Steve Hilton on in the two o'clock hour, one of
the leading candidates running for governor as a Republican, and
he really went after Gavin Newsom's hypocrisy down at the
climate conference in Brazil. You should really listen to Steve
Hilton at two o'clock. Tom McClintock was on earlier this hour,

(24:51):
right before he was going to vote to have as
the House opens, the government shut down his ending, and
he had a lot to say about not only the
stupid shutdown, but Gavin Newsom's prop fifty.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Nonsense speaking Newsom.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
If you're just joining us, last segment, we told you
that Gavin Newsom's former chief of staff. This woman was
Newsom's right hand man, right hand woman up until December.
Dana Williamson. She's fifty three years old. She's facing twenty
three federal counts in an indictment twenty three, she had

(25:29):
a scheme to divert more than two hundred and twenty
five thousand dollars from a dormant Democratic campaign fund and
covered her tracks with backdated contracts and false statements. So
she's a real criminal. And she was the chief of
staff for Newsom for about three years and she left
the office in December of twenty twenty four. She also

(25:54):
applied for a billion for a one million dollar phony
COVID loan. Oh, I'm sorry Debra's gone, because now we
have a list of things that she purchased. A fifteen
thousand dollars Chanelle handbag A I love Chanell.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Mike, you got a Chanel bag? Do we back pocket?

Speaker 6 (26:16):
John?

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Twenty one thousand dollars private jet charter, luxury resorts, stays
in Mexico.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I'm getting this.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
From John Fleischmann and his website, So does itmatter dot com?
John's got more of the details here, and he says.
Williamson was ran Xavier Bessra's attorney general campaign in twenty eighteen,
was Jerry Brown's cabinet secretary, and in twenty twenty two

(26:48):
became Newsome's chief of staff and according to the indictment.
She was running the side operation and Williamson's personal expenses
were zide disguised as consulting fees. They created backdated contracts,
gave false information to the FBI. They did this after

(27:09):
the subpoena arrived and she was in court this afternoon.
She was not a mid level age she was the
top Democratic strategist until last December. Wow, we'll do a
lot more on this tomorrow. This is huge, A real
live criminal in has been running Gavin Newsom's office chief

(27:31):
of staff from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four,
and every other major Democratic name has been involved with her.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Wow, that's what they are.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
There's a lot more than In fact, the investigation is ongoing.
They're looking for more co conspirators. All right, Michael Krezer
is the news. Conway is next and we'll see it
tomorrow at one o'clock. Krezer is live in the KFI
twenty four our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the
John Kobe Show podcast. You can always hear the show
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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