November 14, 2025 • 35 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (11/14) - Katy Grimes comes on the show to talk about Gov. Newsom’s former chief of staff Dana Williamson being arrested on corruption charges & the feds asking her to wear a wire around Gov. Newsom. More on this possible 2nd federal investigation into Gov. Newsom. Jerry Brown's former Press Secretary Gil Duran talked about what it was like working with Dana Williamson. The man accused of killing an American Idol executive and her husband was deemed not mentally fit to stand trial.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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the program, and we're going to pick up now right
where we left off yesterday with this stunning indictment of
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Gavin Newsom's former chief of staff, Dana Williamson. And she
is a piece of work by herself. And we'll get
into a lot more details about this woman because and
it really has affected your personal lives. You may think
this is inside baseball stuff, it's not. Dana Williamson had
a lot of power and she was involved in a
lot of issues that we've all been fighting over the
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last few years. She was indicted twenty three counts. So
she's the former Newsom chief of staff. The former Xavier
Besarah chief of staff. Sean McCluskey also indicted. And you
know Bisarah to be the attorney General used to be
in the Biden administration. Well, Williamson and McCluskey conspired with
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other people to steal twenty two hundred and twenty five
thousand dollars. It was a political account that wasn't being
used that I guess nobody was watching. And on top
of that, Williamson also got a million dollar COVID loan
and she was blowing them on it on all kinds
of stuff. I mean, we're talking luxury trips, hotel stays,
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amusement park visits, Chanelle bags, Chanelle earrings, Fendi bags, apparently
a lot of food from the looks of her. We'll
we'll get into all those details. But here here's the
thing that hooked my interest, and we're gonna have Katie
Grimes on from californiaglobe dot com in just seconds to
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talk about it. In the New York Times and in
the LA Times, they had this intentalizing detail that when
she was first approached by the FEDS, they wanted to
know if she had an information about a potential second
investigation targeting Newsom, and in fact, the Times printed a
line from Williamson's attorney saying they wanted her to wear
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a wire. Well, she apparently didn't, and claimed she knew
nothing about anything, no wrongdoing on the part of Newsom.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But that's that didn't come out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Something has been going on or is going on. And
Katie Grimes order peace today in californiaglobe dot com because
she has some possibilities.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Katie, how are you hi, John, I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
This is great to have you on here. Tell me
what you think they might be looking at when it
comes to Gavin Newsom. Now you write a lot about
these behested payments that Newsom demands from corporations, and that's
probably a term a normal person is not familiar with.
So if you could explain that and why that could
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be a thread that would lead to an investigation.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Since she was elected governor, Newsom has raised a bunch
of money via these behested payments, and essentially I call
it like legalized extortion. What he does is he requires
certain large companies like Goldman, Sachs, Fidelity Investments, CBS Pharmacy
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to contribute. And I'll say that in the air quotes
money to either one of his favorite charities, a nonprofits,
or a lot of this was also going into his
wife's nonprofits. So you know, there's certainly a lot of
speculation on how this money was used. The the behested
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payments for the large companies really really look like pay
to play, because several of them, like Kaiser and UH
one of the other large how insurance companies he got
behested payments from and then turn around and gave them
no big contracts during COVID.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Blue Shield would be the other one.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, and there was another one, United Health, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So, you know, so clearly pay to play. And what's
so interesting too is that he actually got in trouble
for this in twenty twenty four from the Fair Political
Practices Commission. Not a lot of trouble. They find him
only thirteen thousand dollars for failing to report on time
lots of these charitable payments made at his request, So
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you know, really, again, he appoints the people at the
Fair Political Practices Commission, so you know, we don't expect
much from them. But it's really really shady practice. And
I have wondered for a very long time if the
federal government was ever going to.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Look into this, well, what when do these behested payments
cross into extortion or bribery? This is what it understand
I've read about these exactly payments for years. Eric Arcetti
here in La was also a master at this stuff.
And you know, if a normal person reads this, it's like,
well that this is legalized briberly, and I guess it
is legalized.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
And that's what's really shady. You know, I've never seen
a piece of legislation that authorized this. I don't know
if it's just some practice that was kind of adopted
and it's a wink wink, nod nod. Everybody does this. Well,
I'm sorry. We've been under Democrat supermajority rule in this
state now for fifteen years and the behested payments have
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done nothing but increased, and particularly.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
By this governor, there's healthcare payments really gregious because you
write in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, United Health donated two
hundred and twenty thousand dollars to political committees controlled by Newsom,
and then he awarded four hundred and ninety two million
in contracts to United Health subsidies, no bid expedited. WHOA,
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that's a half of billion dollars almost exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
And a lot of this went on during COVID when
there was no access to the governor. There was no
access to the legislature. The media was kept far away
from all of this stuff from happening. It just happened,
and it was it was particularly egregious.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And then he started asking greaton Rancheria to contribute to
a total of a million dollars to his wife's nonprofit.
What is greaton Rancheria? What was the payoff there?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Well, that's an Indian casino that was trying. They were
very very upset about another one coming into their area,
which was they felt was going to, you know, take
away some of their gambling riches. So, yeah, this one,
and we've reported on this a couple of times. The
Free Beacon actually broke the story that this big Rancheria
contributed five hundred thousand to the first partner's charity to
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California Partners Project, and then again another five one hundred
thousand dollars. And then they turned around and next thing
you know, Gavin Newsom is vetoing the bill in the
legislature that would have authorized another tribal deal in their region.
So it's totally paid to play.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So he blocked a competitor for this tribe, a competitor
competitive casino, and got a million dollars for his wife's
charity in return. Exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I don't know. I mean, you know, I grew up
in the New York, New Jersey area.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
This was bribery and extortion where I grew up, and
people were taken to jail. They've taken a federal prison
for this stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yes, exactly. And this has been probably one of my
pet peeves ever since I started reporting on politics and
California is this. It's a shadow government California is operating
via the nonprofits and particularly I mean it's right here
in black and white, how much money was given to
his wife just from this one contributor, and then what
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happens to the money once it hits the nonprofit. It's
just a black hole. There's no requirement for them to
report unless they choose to where that money really goes.
And a lot of these nonprofits in California get government funding.
And that's where I really want to blow the lid
off of it.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Williamson was originally investigated going back to twenty twenty two. Yes,
and by twenty twenty four she was notified of it
and they said, well, what do you know about Newsom?
This is all under the Biden administration. Correct, and because
a lot of people had a knee jerk response yesterday,
well that this is Trump and his retribution to her,
and it's not. It started with Biden for several years
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and was this in some way and you kind of
insinuate it in your story. It was some way to
tell Newsom to knock it off, because he was openly
touring Washington, d C. A few years ago as if
he was ready to move into the White House tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Exactly, and he waited until Joe Biden, then President, was
on a out of the country trip to the Middle East.
He shows up for some BF Education award, which, as
I point out, was like a joke since California ranks
fiftieth in the country for literacy. But then it's like
he goes over to the White House and starts measuring
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the drapes and looking at the you know, the family's
private quarters. And I have sources in DC that at
the time told me, wow, did he veer out of
his lane with that? Because it was very evident he's
so arrogant and he's entitled. He assumed he was next
in line for the presidency, which displeased a lot of
the top Democrats at the time. And then do you
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remember I didn't put this in that article just because
it's me thinking out loud. Remember what a suck up tour?
He went on how he was going to be Joe
Biden's stand in and he was his best friend for
the longest time. I think that was his way of going, no, I.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Love you, I swear Maybe that was the deal. This
is af fascinating, Katie. Was you find out more, let
us know and we'll put you on right away.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You betcha thanks John.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
All right, Katie Grimes, California Globe dot Com. We are
going to talk more about this and put all the
puzzle pieces together. John Cobelt, CHOKFI AM six forty eight.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
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Speaker 1 (10:22):
All right, let's continue.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
We just had Katie Grimes on from California Globe dot
com and she had a story on what the investigation
into Gavin Newsom may have been or maybe it's going
on now. We don't know because when the story broke
yesterday that Dani Williamson, his former chief of staff, was
getting indicted for stealing money in both the La Times
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and The New York Times. It said that the attorney
claimed that when she was first approached by federal FBI officials,
they wanted to know what she knew about new and
possible crimes because of a separate investigation. LA Times said
they asked her to wear a wire. She didn't wear
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a wire as far as we know, and she claimed
to the FBI at the time that she didn't know
about anything bad going on.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
So what could it be?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And so Katie says, maybe it has something to do
with this Behesting process where corporations donors give Newsom hundreds
of thousands, millions of dollars to his various nonprofits and
phony outside committees, and then he rewards them, like in
the case of United Healthcare, he rewards them with a
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half a billion dollars in no bid expedited healthcare contracts.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Is that legal? Is that what they're investigating? Or is
it something else we don't know? I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Tell you too about who this Dana Williamson is because
you might be thinking, well, who care?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Just who cares? It's another inside hacked never heard of
the woman? What has it meant?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Do you remember last year how hard it was to
get Prop thirty six on the ballot. Prop thirty six
was going to repeal Prop forty seven. It was the Homelessness,
Drug Addiction, and Theft Reduction Act. Remember Prop thirty six
to start prosecuting shoplifting and other thefts as felonies again,
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drug use as felonies, set up felony fentanyl crimes, and
Newsom and the Democratic Legislature blocked this with every trick
they had. Well, the tricks were being orchestrated by Dana Williamson.
So while you're suffering, maybe you run a business or
work in a business and you're watching thieves clear your
shelves every day, or you have drug addicts harassing you
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in the street, or maybe one of your kids was
sold some fentanyl that nearly killed them, or a lot
of cases actually did kill them.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Dana Williams's data.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Williamson was the leading bigure to stop Prop thirty six
from getting on a ballot. And I'm not going to
get into all the complicated tricks she was trying to pull.
But she was trying to get the legislature to pass
a group of bills. But these bills would self destructive.
Prop thirty six past these bills were supposed to be
crime fighting bills, but they were nothing like Prop thirty six.
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They were trying to play a distraction game. Hey, look
over here at this package of bills. Well go ahead
past those. Well we'll only do it as long as
you take thirty six off the ballot. And that's how
she was negotiating with the district attorney's organization that was
sponsoring Prop thirty six.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
So she was a very devious person.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
She's also, by all accounts, a big bully. And I'm
trying to see you know, I don't have enough time
to play this. I have to do it right after
we get to get back. Because Jerry Brown's former press secretary,
his name is Gil Duran, and Gil Duran went on
Alex Michaelson Alex Michaelson last night on CNN. Alex has
a new show called The Story Is, and he had
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experience working with Dana Williamson, and so you wait to
hear what he has to say. Another thing she did
all this excessive spending. She also needs a liver. Apparently
it was well known that she was a very very
heavy drinker. So presumably some of this stolen money went
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to the booze that she used to kill her liver
and now she wants a new one. And then I
was thinking, how just a week or two ago, there
was a story that Newsom down a bottle of tequila
after the Palisades fires because he was so distraught.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Truck was calling in names, and.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I'm thinking, you know, it does seem like this government
is run by a bunch of drunks. And maybe that's
the truth. Maybe between Newsom and Williamson, the two of
them have been loaded so often they have no idea
what they're doing. They do know how to steal money,
though they do know how to accept money, in Newsom's case,
from these corporations. It's extortion in any other world. It's
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bribery in any other world. But they give it a
weird name called behesting that most people don't understand. And
it's the way Newsome and dand Williamson sells the government
to these donors and sells you out.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
This is massive corruption. And we'll see if.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
This investigation is still going on or not, but there's
definitely something to this, all right. When we come back,
we'll let the words of Gil Duran, Jerry Brown's former
press secretary, describe Dana Williamson, who's been indicted.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I think this is just the tip of it.
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I think I got what Eileen had. There's something in
the air here, probably poisoning us. All right, I was
telling you about Dana Williamson, Gavin Newsom's former chief of staff.
She and others are accused of stealing almost a quarter
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billion dollars from a political account belonging to Javier Bicera,
a former attorney general. In addition, she got hundreds of
thousands of dollars in a phony COVID loan, and she
failed to report one point seven million dollars in income.
She's known as an angry, nasty, vindictive chief of staff
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working for Newsom. She also worked for Jerry Brown. She
worked for Greg Davis and somebody who I suppose knew
who pretty well is Guild Duran, the Foreign Press secretary
for Jerry Brown. Listen to a Guild Duran said last
night Sann Alex Michaelson's news show. The story is this
is Guild Duran on Dana Williamson.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
What was she like to work with?
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Well, Dana has a reputation for being reckless, for being irresponsible,
and for being a bully. She was somebody who loved
power and loved to abuse power often if you look
at some of the indictment, but she's talking about getting
people fired, you know, laughing and calling people's names. This
is very much how she was. And you know, on
a personal level. You know, years ago, I was up
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for a job. I was offered a job, and Dana
called my prospective employer and told them that if they
hired me, they would be dead to the governor's office.
I got that job anyway, But this was how she
operated like a mafia boss. And now she's being treated
by a mafia boss.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
What does it say about Governor Newsom that he put
a person you're describing in charge of his office running
the state?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Well, I would say that Governor Newsom, as well as
Governor Brown, for whom I worked, and Javier Bessera, should
be ashamed of their terrible lapse of judgment here. The
only reason Dana Williamson acted the way she did for
so many years and what led to this situation, was
that she felt she could act with impunity, and she
felt she could act with impunity because of the power
she was given, despite the very obvious problems with her
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behavior that were a parent for years. And so I
think there's going to have to be a lot of
soul searching in Sacramento. You know, this isn't just any
Democratic operative. Dana Williams had had so much power in
the California Democratic Party that there's a statue of her
daughter on top of California Democratic Party headquarters in Sacramento.
So I think there's going to have to be a
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lot of soul searching about exactly what went wrong and
how to root out this culture of corruption that always
seems to form in Sacramento, and to be frank, in
city halls and in state capitals across the country. The
FBI is always there. The FBI is always bringing people down.
So this is not exactly a shock that you would
get caught if you tried to do something as ridiculous
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as this soprano like scheme they had going on.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
She got a statue for her daughter on the roof
of one of the government buildings in Sacramento. The hell
is going on? Good lord, that's Terry Brown's form of
press secretary. You wonder why California is in the state
it's in now, do you understand We've been telling you
for years. These are a bunch of nasty, ugly criminals.
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They're thieves, they're literally drunks. In fact, Williams's attorney is
not trying now you just heard Gil Durand describe what
she really is. Well, now, her attorney is trying to
get sympathy for her because she blew out her liver
drinking too much. After Williamson's arrest, and this is according
to RedState dot Com, her attorney said she had severe
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health issues was recently put on a waiting list for
a liver transplant. I'm sure there's somebody more deserving of
that liver. There have been concerns throughout Sacramento political circles
for years about the fifty three year old's heavy drinking,
so this is not surprising, and the attorney believes that
because of her health issues, the FEDS should not have
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descended upon her home and arrested her without warning. Why
do you get special treatment because you steal a lot
of money and you drink too much and you're not
supposed to be warned. Well, if you're warned, you might disappear,
you might get on a plane. Because a lot of
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times these people send their money to bank accounts in
foreign countries where it's difficult to track to track the money,
So of course you arrest people without warning.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
This woman.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Had the number one position behind Gavin Newsom. You know,
Newsom spends most of his day preening and prancing in
front of television cameras, holding nonsense press briefings, flying around
on jets, fouling the atmosphere while fighting climate change. He
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doesn't do much hard work of substance. If Iraghosa was
like that too, You actually look at these guys' schedules.
There isn't a lot of detailed work they're doing. She
really acted as the center of power. She actually governed California,
and you trace all this corruption. For example, what did
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we tell you about PGNE. Over the years, PG and
E donates huge amounts of money to Gavin Newsom and
to Gavin Newsom's wife for her irritating feminist films. PG
and E then murdered eighty five people in Paradise, California.
It was there mectrical equipment that started that huge fire,
burned the whole town, killed all these people, and then
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got Newsom to bail and Pgeny out because Pgeny again
it's a circle, donated so much money to Newsom and
Missus Newsom. And it turns out Williamson worked together with
one of the co conspirators, a woman I hadn't mentioned yet,
Alexis Podesta.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
She had a role in this scam, and.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
They worked together at PGNA for three years. Williamson was
director of public Affairs, Podesta was special assistant to another executive.
They then went to the Jerry Brown administration and worked
together for years, and then they went and then Williamson
went on to the Newsom administration and think about how
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California has been degraded over the last ten to fifteen years, tremendous. Well,
these two women and Newsom and Brown have been driving
the state off the cliff and it has destroyed the
place and they've gotten rich. But we told you this
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for a long time. And remember this was a federal
investigation that came out of the Biden administration. There's even
more coming. I'm just certain of it. We'll continue.
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Now, next hour, we're gonna talk about We got some
more clips to play from yesterday's hearings that two Senators
Rick Scott from Florida and Ron Johnson from Wisconsin held
in Pacific Palisades to try to sort out the atrocious
failures by the local and state government for the Palisades
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fire and for the Altadena fire for that matter. And
we've got some clips to play from some of the victims,
including this poor woman ninety four years old. Her name's
Rachel Schwartz. She was a Holocaust survivor. She was passed
around three Holocaust camps concentration camps when she was a
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little girl, lost everything in the fires. You'll hear her
testimony before the committee.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And by the way, everyone is bitching, oh, you have
two Republicans come into Where is Adam Schiff?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Oh? I guess he's awaiting his own indictment? And where
is old face down Padia? How come he doesn't hold
a hearing? He's got time to storm in on an
immigration press conference that Christy Nolan was holding before they
dragged him out in the hallway and pulled him face
down and handcuffed him. Why isn't Chef and Padia holding
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these hearings? How come it's a Republican from Florida and
a Republican from Wisconsin. What's that about? Here's another atrocity.
Do you remember the American Idol producer Robin Kay and
her musician husband Thomas de Luca who were murdered in
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Encino back in July. They were found in their house
shot multiple times. Well, the guy who was charged with
murder is Raymond Boudarian. Raymond Boudarian has been declared mentally incompetent.
He has to report to mental health court and he
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maybe sent to a mental health facility for treatment. This
isn't good because he's got a one criminal history brandishing
a knife and threats against his stepfather two years ago,
battery against his mother, battery against his sister last year.
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All the cases were dismissed because he was declared mentally incompetent.
So he committed these terrifying crimes against his family, didn't
go to jail. Oh, mentally incompetent, go for treatment, go
to a diversion program.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
He gets out and he kills.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Two people in the neighborhood and so they declare mentally
incompetent again. Is he going to be out in a
few months to kill somebody else? And this program was
described for Channel seven by a criminal defense attorney named
Lou Shapiro.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Oh, we've had Lou on the show.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
And he said, well, some of the questions are going
to be why was this case dismissed, meaning the cases
against his family members. Was he put on some type
of diversion where he proved to the court that he
had rehabilitated or did he slip through the cracks? And
this case was dismissed by accident, which is very rare. No,
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this is the system. You assault your family members or
threaten them with weapons. Oh, he's just emotionally distraught. Let's
give him a diversion program. Let's give him some mental
health treatment. Let's give him a Teddy Bear and some cookies.
This guy's an adult twenty two years old. Shapiro said
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it might have been in California's legal system then played
a role, you think, in Budarian's release so he could
kill Robin Ka and Thomas de Luca. She was a
music supervisor for American Idol. Shapiro said, there's a separate
court just for people with mental health issues. If they're eligible,
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they get put on a different track, And for the
most part, most people on that track do well.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
But every so often we have a situation.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Like this where it didn't go the way it should
have gone, and very tragically we have two people who are.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Dead because of it.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I don't know if he was threatening his family members.
He got this fake mental health diversion treatment, and then
he comes back and kills two people, Maybe it's time
to lock him up forever. He's gonna get what what
is the treatment? What do you do with a guy
like this who has violent, impulsive, crazy actions. He got
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a gun and he shut them both up. There's no
counseling for that. Everybody's insane. Everybody's absolutely insane. All Right,
we'll come back. Oh yeah, I want to talk about
the hearing yesterday that apparently, you know, our two Democratic senators,
Chef and Padia, have no interest in holding these kind
of hearings. So we've got two Republicans from Wisconsin and
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Florida to try to find justice for the people of Palisades.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Debra Maark's off. Today.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
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about I had some more clips to play from yesterday's
hearings that two Senators Rick Scott from Florida and Ron
Johnson from Wisconsin held in Pacific Palisades to try to
(30:10):
sort out the atrocious failures by the local and state
government for the Palisades fire and for the Altadena fire
for that matter. And we've got some clips to play
from some of the victims, including this poor woman ninety
four years old.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Her name is Rachel Schwartz. She was a Holocaust survivor.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
She was passed around three Holocaust camps concentration camps when
she was a little girl, lost everything in the fires.
You'll hear her testimony before the committee. And by the way,
everyone is bitching.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Oh, you have two Republicans come into too.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Where is Adam Schiff? Oh, I guess he's awaiting his
own indictment. And where is old face down Padia. How
come he doesn't hold a hearing, He's got time to
storm in on an immigration press conference that Christy Nolan
was holding before they dragged him out in the hallway
and pulled him face down and handcuffed him. Why isn't
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Chef and Padia holding these hearings? How come it's a
Republican from Florida and a Republican from Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
What's that about? Here's another atrocity.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Do you remember the American Idol producer Robin Kay and
her musician husband Thomas de Luca, who were murdered in
Encino back in July. They were found in their house
shot multiple times. Well, the guy who was charged with
(31:53):
murder is Raymond Boudarian. Raymond Boudarian has been declared mentally incompetent.
He has to report to mental health court and he
maybe sent to a mental health facility for treatment. This
(32:15):
isn't good because he's got a long criminal history. Brandishing
a knife and threats against his stepfather two years ago,
battery against his mother, battery against his sister last year.
All the cases were dismissed because he was declared mentally incompetent.
(32:38):
So he committed these terrifying crimes against his family, didn't
go to jail. Oh mentally incompetent, go for treatment, go
to a diversion program. He gets out and he kills
two people in the neighborhood, and so they declare mentally incompetent.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Again, Well, then is he going to be.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Out in a few months because somebody else? And this
program was described for Channel seven by a criminal defense
attorney named Lou Shapiro. Oh, we've had Lou on the show,
and he said, well, some of the questions are going
to be why was this case dismissed, meaning the cases
against his family members. Was he put on some type
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of diversion where he proved to the court that he
had rehabilitated or did he slip through the cracks? And
this case was dismissed by accident, which is very rare. No,
this is the system. You assault your family members or
threatened them with weapons. Oh, he's just emotionally distraught. Let's
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give him a diversion program. Let's give him some mental
health treatment. Let's give him a Teddy Bear and some cookies.
This guy's an adult twenty two years old. Shapiro said
it might have been California's legal system then played a role,
you think in Boudarian's release so he could kill Robin
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Ka and Thomas de Luca. She was a music supervisor
for American Idol Shapiro said, there's a separate court just
for people with mental health issues. If they're eligible, they
get put on a different track. And for the most.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Part, most people on that track do well.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
But every so often we have a situation like this
where it didn't go the way it should have gone,
and very tragically, we have two people who are dead
because of it. I don't know if he was threatening
his family members. He got this fake mental health diversion treatment,
and then he comes back and kills two people. Maybe
it's time to lock them up forever. He's gonna get
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what what is the treatment? What do you do with
a guy like this who has violent, impulsive, crazy actions.
He got a gun and he shot them both up.
There's no counseling for that. Everybody's insane. Everybody's absolutely insane.
All Right, we'll come back. Oh yeah, I want to
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talk about the hearing yesterday that apparently, you know, our
two Democratic senators, Chef and Padia, have no interest in
holding these kind of hearings. So we've got two Republicans
from Wisconsin and Florida to try to find justice for
the people of Palisades.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Debra marks Off.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
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where we left off yesterday with this stunning indictment of
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Gavin Newsom's former chief of staff, Dana Williamson. And she
is a piece of work by herself. And we'll get
into a lot more details about this woman because and
it really has affected your personal lives. You may think
this is inside baseball stuff, it's not. Dana Williamson had
a lot of power and she was involved in a
lot of issues that we've all been fighting over the
(00:46):
last few years. She was indicted twenty three counts. So
she's the former Newsom chief of staff. The former Xavier
Besarah chief of staff. Sean McCluskey also indicted. And you
know Bisarah to be the attorney General used to be
in the Biden administration. Well, Williamson and McCluskey conspired with
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other people to steal twenty two hundred and twenty five
thousand dollars. It was a political account that wasn't being
used that I guess nobody was watching. And on top
of that, Williamson also got a million dollar COVID loan
and she was blowing them on it on all kinds
of stuff. I mean, we're talking luxury trips, hotel stays,
(01:28):
amusement park visits, Chanelle bags, Chanelle earrings, Fendi bags, apparently
a lot of food from the looks of her. We'll
we'll get into all those details. But here here's the
thing that hooked my interest, and we're gonna have Katie
Grimes on from californiaglobe dot com in just seconds to
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talk about it. In the New York Times and in
the LA Times, they had this intentalizing detail that when
she was first approached by the FEDS, they wanted to
know if she had an information about a potential second
investigation targeting Newsom, and in fact, the Times printed a
line from Williamson's attorney saying they wanted her to wear
(02:10):
a wire. Well, she apparently didn't, and claimed she knew
nothing about anything, no wrongdoing on the part of Newsom.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But that's that didn't come out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Something has been going on or is going on. And
Katie Grimes order peace today in californiaglobe dot com because
she has some possibilities.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Katie, how are you hi, John, I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
This is great to have you on here. Tell me
what you think they might be looking at when it
comes to Gavin Newsom. Now you write a lot about
these behested payments that Newsom demands from corporations, and that's
probably a term a normal person is not familiar with.
So if you could explain that and why that could
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be a thread that would lead to an investigation.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Since she was elected governor, Newsom has raised a bunch
of money via these behested payments, and essentially I call
it like legalized extortion. What he does is he requires
certain large companies like Goldman, Sachs, Fidelity Investments, CBS Pharmacy
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to contribute. And I'll say that in the air quotes
money to either one of his favorite charities, a nonprofits,
or a lot of this was also going into his
wife's nonprofits. So you know, there's certainly a lot of
speculation on how this money was used. The the behested
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payments for the large companies really really look like pay
to play, because several of them, like Kaiser and UH
one of the other large how insurance companies he got
behested payments from and then turn around and gave them
no big contracts during COVID.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Blue Shield would be the other one.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, and there was another one, United Health, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So, you know, so clearly pay to play. And what's
so interesting too is that he actually got in trouble
for this in twenty twenty four from the Fair Political
Practices Commission. Not a lot of trouble. They find him
only thirteen thousand dollars for failing to report on time
lots of these charitable payments made at his request, So
(04:37):
you know, really, again, he appoints the people at the
Fair Political Practices Commission, so you know, we don't expect
much from them. But it's really really shady practice. And
I have wondered for a very long time if the
federal government was ever going to.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Look into this, well, what when do these behested payments
cross into extortion or bribery? This is what it understand
I've read about these exactly payments for years. Eric Arcetti
here in La was also a master at this stuff.
And you know, if a normal person reads this, it's like,
well that this is legalized briberly, and I guess it
is legalized.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
And that's what's really shady. You know, I've never seen
a piece of legislation that authorized this. I don't know
if it's just some practice that was kind of adopted
and it's a wink wink, nod nod. Everybody does this. Well,
I'm sorry. We've been under Democrat supermajority rule in this
state now for fifteen years and the behested payments have
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done nothing but increased, and particularly.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
By this governor, there's healthcare payments really gregious because you
write in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, United Health donated two
hundred and twenty thousand dollars to political committees controlled by Newsom,
and then he awarded four hundred and ninety two million
in contracts to United Health subsidies, no bid expedited. WHOA,
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that's a half of billion dollars almost exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
And a lot of this went on during COVID when
there was no access to the governor. There was no
access to the legislature. The media was kept far away
from all of this stuff from happening. It just happened,
and it was it was particularly egregious.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And then he started asking greaton Rancheria to contribute to
a total of a million dollars to his wife's nonprofit.
What is greaton Rancheria? What was the payoff there?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Well, that's an Indian casino that was trying. They were
very very upset about another one coming into their area,
which was they felt was going to, you know, take
away some of their gambling riches. So, yeah, this one,
and we've reported on this a couple of times. The
Free Beacon actually broke the story that this big Rancheria
contributed five hundred thousand to the first partner's charity to
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California Partners Project, and then again another five one hundred
thousand dollars. And then they turned around and next thing
you know, Gavin Newsom is vetoing the bill in the
legislature that would have authorized another tribal deal in their region.
So it's totally paid to play.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So he blocked a competitor for this tribe, a competitor
competitive casino, and got a million dollars for his wife's
charity in return. Exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I don't know. I mean, you know, I grew up
in the New York, New Jersey area.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
This was bribery and extortion where I grew up, and
people were taken to jail. They've taken a federal prison
for this stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yes, exactly. And this has been probably one of my
pet peeves ever since I started reporting on politics and
California is this. It's a shadow government California is operating
via the nonprofits and particularly I mean it's right here
in black and white, how much money was given to
his wife just from this one contributor, and then what
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happens to the money once it hits the nonprofit. It's
just a black hole. There's no requirement for them to
report unless they choose to where that money really goes.
And a lot of these nonprofits in California get government funding.
And that's where I really want to blow the lid
off of it.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Williamson was originally investigated going back to twenty twenty two. Yes,
and by twenty twenty four she was notified of it
and they said, well, what do you know about Newsom?
This is all under the Biden administration. Correct, and because
a lot of people had a knee jerk response yesterday,
well that this is Trump and his retribution to her,
and it's not. It started with Biden for several years
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and was this in some way and you kind of
insinuate it in your story. It was some way to
tell Newsom to knock it off, because he was openly
touring Washington, d C. A few years ago as if
he was ready to move into the White House tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Exactly, and he waited until Joe Biden, then President, was
on a out of the country trip to the Middle East.
He shows up for some BF Education award, which, as
I point out, was like a joke since California ranks
fiftieth in the country for literacy. But then it's like
he goes over to the White House and starts measuring
(09:19):
the drapes and looking at the you know, the family's
private quarters. And I have sources in DC that at
the time told me, wow, did he veer out of
his lane with that? Because it was very evident he's
so arrogant and he's entitled. He assumed he was next
in line for the presidency, which displeased a lot of
the top Democrats at the time. And then do you
(09:42):
remember I didn't put this in that article just because
it's me thinking out loud. Remember what a suck up tour?
He went on how he was going to be Joe
Biden's stand in and he was his best friend for
the longest time. I think that was his way of going, no, I.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Love you, I swear Maybe that was the deal. This
is af fascinating, Katie. Was you find out more, let
us know and we'll put you on right away.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You betcha thanks John.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
All right, Katie Grimes, California Globe dot Com. We are
going to talk more about this and put all the
puzzle pieces together. John Cobelt, CHOKFI AM six forty eight.
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Speaker 1 (10:22):
All right, let's continue.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
We just had Katie Grimes on from California Globe dot
com and she had a story on what the investigation
into Gavin Newsom may have been or maybe it's going
on now. We don't know because when the story broke
yesterday that Dani Williamson, his former chief of staff, was
getting indicted for stealing money in both the La Times
(10:48):
and The New York Times. It said that the attorney
claimed that when she was first approached by federal FBI officials,
they wanted to know what she knew about new and
possible crimes because of a separate investigation. LA Times said
they asked her to wear a wire. She didn't wear
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a wire as far as we know, and she claimed
to the FBI at the time that she didn't know
about anything bad going on.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
So what could it be?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And so Katie says, maybe it has something to do
with this Behesting process where corporations donors give Newsom hundreds
of thousands, millions of dollars to his various nonprofits and
phony outside committees, and then he rewards them, like in
the case of United Healthcare, he rewards them with a
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half a billion dollars in no bid expedited healthcare contracts.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Is that legal? Is that what they're investigating? Or is
it something else we don't know? I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Tell you too about who this Dana Williamson is because
you might be thinking, well, who care?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Just who cares? It's another inside hacked never heard of
the woman? What has it meant?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Do you remember last year how hard it was to
get Prop thirty six on the ballot. Prop thirty six
was going to repeal Prop forty seven. It was the Homelessness,
Drug Addiction, and Theft Reduction Act. Remember Prop thirty six
to start prosecuting shoplifting and other thefts as felonies again,
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drug use as felonies, set up felony fentanyl crimes, and
Newsom and the Democratic Legislature blocked this with every trick
they had. Well, the tricks were being orchestrated by Dana Williamson.
So while you're suffering, maybe you run a business or
work in a business and you're watching thieves clear your
shelves every day, or you have drug addicts harassing you
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in the street, or maybe one of your kids was
sold some fentanyl that nearly killed them, or a lot
of cases actually did kill them.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Dana Williams's data.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Williamson was the leading bigure to stop Prop thirty six
from getting on a ballot. And I'm not going to
get into all the complicated tricks she was trying to pull.
But she was trying to get the legislature to pass
a group of bills. But these bills would self destructive.
Prop thirty six past these bills were supposed to be
crime fighting bills, but they were nothing like Prop thirty six.
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They were trying to play a distraction game. Hey, look
over here at this package of bills. Well go ahead
past those. Well we'll only do it as long as
you take thirty six off the ballot. And that's how
she was negotiating with the district attorney's organization that was
sponsoring Prop thirty six.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
So she was a very devious person.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
She's also, by all accounts, a big bully. And I'm
trying to see you know, I don't have enough time
to play this. I have to do it right after
we get to get back. Because Jerry Brown's former press secretary,
his name is Gil Duran, and Gil Duran went on
Alex Michaelson Alex Michaelson last night on CNN. Alex has
a new show called The Story Is, and he had
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experience working with Dana Williamson, and so you wait to
hear what he has to say. Another thing she did
all this excessive spending. She also needs a liver. Apparently
it was well known that she was a very very
heavy drinker. So presumably some of this stolen money went
(14:20):
to the booze that she used to kill her liver
and now she wants a new one. And then I
was thinking, how just a week or two ago, there
was a story that Newsom down a bottle of tequila
after the Palisades fires because he was so distraught.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Truck was calling in names, and.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I'm thinking, you know, it does seem like this government
is run by a bunch of drunks. And maybe that's
the truth. Maybe between Newsom and Williamson, the two of
them have been loaded so often they have no idea
what they're doing. They do know how to steal money,
though they do know how to accept money, in Newsom's case,
from these corporations. It's extortion in any other world. It's
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bribery in any other world. But they give it a
weird name called behesting that most people don't understand. And
it's the way Newsome and dand Williamson sells the government
to these donors and sells you out.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
This is massive corruption. And we'll see if.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
This investigation is still going on or not, but there's
definitely something to this, all right. When we come back,
we'll let the words of Gil Duran, Jerry Brown's former
press secretary, describe Dana Williamson, who's been indicted.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I think this is just the tip of it.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
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I think I got what Eileen had. There's something in
the air here, probably poisoning us. All right, I was
telling you about Dana Williamson, Gavin Newsom's former chief of staff.
She and others are accused of stealing almost a quarter
(16:31):
billion dollars from a political account belonging to Javier Bicera,
a former attorney general. In addition, she got hundreds of
thousands of dollars in a phony COVID loan, and she
failed to report one point seven million dollars in income.
She's known as an angry, nasty, vindictive chief of staff
(16:54):
working for Newsom. She also worked for Jerry Brown. She
worked for Greg Davis and somebody who I suppose knew
who pretty well is Guild Duran, the Foreign Press secretary
for Jerry Brown. Listen to a Guild Duran said last
night Sann Alex Michaelson's news show. The story is this
is Guild Duran on Dana Williamson.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
What was she like to work with?
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Well, Dana has a reputation for being reckless, for being irresponsible,
and for being a bully. She was somebody who loved
power and loved to abuse power often if you look
at some of the indictment, but she's talking about getting
people fired, you know, laughing and calling people's names. This
is very much how she was. And you know, on
a personal level. You know, years ago, I was up
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for a job. I was offered a job, and Dana
called my prospective employer and told them that if they
hired me, they would be dead to the governor's office.
I got that job anyway, But this was how she
operated like a mafia boss. And now she's being treated
by a mafia boss.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
What does it say about Governor Newsom that he put
a person you're describing in charge of his office running
the state?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Well, I would say that Governor Newsom, as well as
Governor Brown, for whom I worked, and Javier Bessera, should
be ashamed of their terrible lapse of judgment here. The
only reason Dana Williamson acted the way she did for
so many years and what led to this situation, was
that she felt she could act with impunity, and she
felt she could act with impunity because of the power
she was given, despite the very obvious problems with her
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behavior that were a parent for years. And so I
think there's going to have to be a lot of
soul searching in Sacramento. You know, this isn't just any
Democratic operative. Dana Williams had had so much power in
the California Democratic Party that there's a statue of her
daughter on top of California Democratic Party headquarters in Sacramento.
So I think there's going to have to be a
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lot of soul searching about exactly what went wrong and
how to root out this culture of corruption that always
seems to form in Sacramento, and to be frank, in
city halls and in state capitals across the country. The
FBI is always there. The FBI is always bringing people down.
So this is not exactly a shock that you would
get caught if you tried to do something as ridiculous
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as this soprano like scheme they had going on.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
She got a statue for her daughter on the roof
of one of the government buildings in Sacramento. The hell
is going on? Good lord, that's Terry Brown's form of
press secretary. You wonder why California is in the state
it's in now, do you understand We've been telling you
for years. These are a bunch of nasty, ugly criminals.
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They're thieves, they're literally drunks. In fact, Williams's attorney is
not trying now you just heard Gil Durand describe what
she really is. Well, now, her attorney is trying to
get sympathy for her because she blew out her liver
drinking too much. After Williamson's arrest, and this is according
to RedState dot Com, her attorney said she had severe
(19:59):
health issues was recently put on a waiting list for
a liver transplant. I'm sure there's somebody more deserving of
that liver. There have been concerns throughout Sacramento political circles
for years about the fifty three year old's heavy drinking,
so this is not surprising, and the attorney believes that
because of her health issues, the FEDS should not have
(20:23):
descended upon her home and arrested her without warning. Why
do you get special treatment because you steal a lot
of money and you drink too much and you're not
supposed to be warned. Well, if you're warned, you might disappear,
you might get on a plane. Because a lot of
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times these people send their money to bank accounts in
foreign countries where it's difficult to track to track the money,
So of course you arrest people without warning.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
This woman.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Had the number one position behind Gavin Newsom. You know,
Newsom spends most of his day preening and prancing in
front of television cameras, holding nonsense press briefings, flying around
on jets, fouling the atmosphere while fighting climate change. He
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doesn't do much hard work of substance. If Iraghosa was
like that too, You actually look at these guys' schedules.
There isn't a lot of detailed work they're doing. She
really acted as the center of power. She actually governed California,
and you trace all this corruption. For example, what did
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we tell you about PGNE. Over the years, PG and
E donates huge amounts of money to Gavin Newsom and
to Gavin Newsom's wife for her irritating feminist films. PG
and E then murdered eighty five people in Paradise, California.
It was there mectrical equipment that started that huge fire,
burned the whole town, killed all these people, and then
(22:06):
got Newsom to bail and Pgeny out because Pgeny again
it's a circle, donated so much money to Newsom and
Missus Newsom. And it turns out Williamson worked together with
one of the co conspirators, a woman I hadn't mentioned yet,
Alexis Podesta.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
She had a role in this scam, and.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
They worked together at PGNA for three years. Williamson was
director of public Affairs, Podesta was special assistant to another executive.
They then went to the Jerry Brown administration and worked
together for years, and then they went and then Williamson
went on to the Newsom administration and think about how
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California has been degraded over the last ten to fifteen years, tremendous. Well,
these two women and Newsom and Brown have been driving
the state off the cliff and it has destroyed the
place and they've gotten rich. But we told you this
(23:12):
for a long time. And remember this was a federal
investigation that came out of the Biden administration. There's even
more coming. I'm just certain of it. We'll continue.
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Now, next hour, we're gonna talk about We got some
more clips to play from yesterday's hearings that two Senators
Rick Scott from Florida and Ron Johnson from Wisconsin held
in Pacific Palisades to try to sort out the atrocious
failures by the local and state government for the Palisades
(24:20):
fire and for the Altadena fire for that matter. And
we've got some clips to play from some of the victims,
including this poor woman ninety four years old. Her name's
Rachel Schwartz. She was a Holocaust survivor. She was passed
around three Holocaust camps concentration camps when she was a
(24:43):
little girl, lost everything in the fires. You'll hear her
testimony before the committee.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And by the way, everyone is bitching, oh, you have
two Republicans come into Where is Adam Schiff?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Oh? I guess he's awaiting his own indictment? And where
is old face down Padia? How come he doesn't hold
a hearing? He's got time to storm in on an
immigration press conference that Christy Nolan was holding before they
dragged him out in the hallway and pulled him face
down and handcuffed him. Why isn't Chef and Padia holding
(25:22):
these hearings? How come it's a Republican from Florida and
a Republican from Wisconsin. What's that about? Here's another atrocity.
Do you remember the American Idol producer Robin Kay and
her musician husband Thomas de Luca who were murdered in
(25:45):
Encino back in July. They were found in their house
shot multiple times. Well, the guy who was charged with
murder is Raymond Boudarian. Raymond Boudarian has been declared mentally incompetent.
He has to report to mental health court and he
(26:12):
maybe sent to a mental health facility for treatment. This
isn't good because he's got a one criminal history brandishing
a knife and threats against his stepfather two years ago,
battery against his mother, battery against his sister last year.
(26:33):
All the cases were dismissed because he was declared mentally incompetent.
So he committed these terrifying crimes against his family, didn't
go to jail. Oh, mentally incompetent, go for treatment, go
to a diversion program.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
He gets out and he kills.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Two people in the neighborhood and so they declare mentally
incompetent again. Is he going to be out in a
few months to kill somebody else? And this program was
described for Channel seven by a criminal defense attorney named
Lou Shapiro.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Oh, we've had Lou on the show.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
And he said, well, some of the questions are going
to be why was this case dismissed, meaning the cases
against his family members. Was he put on some type
of diversion where he proved to the court that he
had rehabilitated or did he slip through the cracks? And
this case was dismissed by accident, which is very rare. No,
(27:35):
this is the system. You assault your family members or
threaten them with weapons. Oh, he's just emotionally distraught. Let's
give him a diversion program. Let's give him some mental
health treatment. Let's give him a Teddy Bear and some cookies.
This guy's an adult twenty two years old. Shapiro said
(27:59):
it might have been in California's legal system then played
a role, you think, in Budarian's release so he could
kill Robin Ka and Thomas de Luca. She was a
music supervisor for American Idol. Shapiro said, there's a separate
court just for people with mental health issues. If they're eligible,
(28:19):
they get put on a different track, And for the
most part, most people on that track do well.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
But every so often we have a situation.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Like this where it didn't go the way it should
have gone, and very tragically we have two people who are.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Dead because of it.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I don't know if he was threatening his family members.
He got this fake mental health diversion treatment, and then
he comes back and kills two people, Maybe it's time
to lock him up forever. He's gonna get what what
is the treatment? What do you do with a guy
like this who has violent, impulsive, crazy actions. He got
(28:59):
a gun and he shut them both up. There's no
counseling for that. Everybody's insane. Everybody's absolutely insane. All Right,
we'll come back. Oh yeah, I want to talk about
the hearing yesterday that apparently, you know, our two Democratic senators,
Chef and Padia, have no interest in holding these kind
of hearings. So we've got two Republicans from Wisconsin and
(29:22):
Florida to try to find justice for the people of Palisades.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Debra Maark's off. Today.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
We have Ileen Gonzalez live in the KFI twenty four
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(29:48):
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and then you subscribe. Now next hour we're gonna talk
about I had some more clips to play from yesterday's
hearings that two Senators Rick Scott from Florida and Ron
Johnson from Wisconsin held in Pacific Palisades to try to
(30:10):
sort out the atrocious failures by the local and state
government for the Palisades fire and for the Altadena fire
for that matter. And we've got some clips to play
from some of the victims, including this poor woman ninety
four years old.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Her name is Rachel Schwartz. She was a Holocaust survivor.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
She was passed around three Holocaust camps concentration camps when
she was a little girl, lost everything in the fires.
You'll hear her testimony before the committee. And by the way,
everyone is bitching.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Oh, you have two Republicans come into too.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Where is Adam Schiff? Oh, I guess he's awaiting his
own indictment. And where is old face down Padia. How
come he doesn't hold a hearing, He's got time to
storm in on an immigration press conference that Christy Nolan
was holding before they dragged him out in the hallway
and pulled him face down and handcuffed him. Why isn't
(31:18):
Chef and Padia holding these hearings? How come it's a
Republican from Florida and a Republican from Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
What's that about? Here's another atrocity.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Do you remember the American Idol producer Robin Kay and
her musician husband Thomas de Luca, who were murdered in
Encino back in July. They were found in their house
shot multiple times. Well, the guy who was charged with
(31:53):
murder is Raymond Boudarian. Raymond Boudarian has been declared mentally incompetent.
He has to report to mental health court and he
maybe sent to a mental health facility for treatment. This
(32:15):
isn't good because he's got a long criminal history. Brandishing
a knife and threats against his stepfather two years ago,
battery against his mother, battery against his sister last year.
All the cases were dismissed because he was declared mentally incompetent.
(32:38):
So he committed these terrifying crimes against his family, didn't
go to jail. Oh mentally incompetent, go for treatment, go
to a diversion program. He gets out and he kills
two people in the neighborhood, and so they declare mentally incompetent.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Again, Well, then is he going to be.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Out in a few months because somebody else? And this
program was described for Channel seven by a criminal defense
attorney named Lou Shapiro. Oh, we've had Lou on the show,
and he said, well, some of the questions are going
to be why was this case dismissed, meaning the cases
against his family members. Was he put on some type
(33:20):
of diversion where he proved to the court that he
had rehabilitated or did he slip through the cracks? And
this case was dismissed by accident, which is very rare. No,
this is the system. You assault your family members or
threatened them with weapons. Oh, he's just emotionally distraught. Let's
(33:44):
give him a diversion program. Let's give him some mental
health treatment. Let's give him a Teddy Bear and some cookies.
This guy's an adult twenty two years old. Shapiro said
it might have been California's legal system then played a role,
you think in Boudarian's release so he could kill Robin
(34:05):
Ka and Thomas de Luca. She was a music supervisor
for American Idol Shapiro said, there's a separate court just
for people with mental health issues. If they're eligible, they
get put on a different track. And for the most.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Part, most people on that track do well.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
But every so often we have a situation like this
where it didn't go the way it should have gone,
and very tragically, we have two people who are dead
because of it. I don't know if he was threatening
his family members. He got this fake mental health diversion treatment,
and then he comes back and kills two people. Maybe
it's time to lock them up forever. He's gonna get
(34:46):
what what is the treatment? What do you do with
a guy like this who has violent, impulsive, crazy actions.
He got a gun and he shot them both up.
There's no counseling for that. Everybody's insane. Everybody's absolutely insane.
All Right, we'll come back. Oh yeah, I want to
(35:08):
talk about the hearing yesterday that apparently, you know, our
two Democratic senators, Chef and Padia, have no interest in
holding these kind of hearings. So we've got two Republicans
from Wisconsin and Florida to try to find justice for
the people of Palisades.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Debra marks Off.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Today we have Eileen Gonzalez live in the KFI twenty
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