November 7, 2023 • 32 mins
Jonathan Oswaks comes on the show to talk about what he saw during an altercation at a rally between pro-Israel demonstrators and pro-Palestine demonstrators in Westlake Village, CA over the weekend. More on Californians moving to Texas. Someone who was taking Ozempic has died.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Of course, one of the big stories both here and
nationally is the death of a Jewish man. He was
at a demonstration in Thousand Oaks. Apparently they were on
different sides of the street, those who were pro Palestinian
and those who were pro Israel. Apparently one of the
pro Palestinian demonstrators came across the street and had a
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confrontation with sixty nine year old Paul Kessler, and Kessler
eventually fell back and hit his head. Today at a
press conference, we didn't get a lot cleared up. Obviously,
they do believe that the head injury was the cause
of mister Kessler's death, but there's a lot of other
things in dispute. The other person is only being described
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as a fifty year old man from Moore Park. They
have not named him, they have not arrested him. And
what we learned today from the Ventura County Sheriff Jim
Fryhoff is that there are conflicting accounts and they're still
sorting through this.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
We're going to talk now with Jonathan Oswalks. He first
met the victim, Paul Kessler, a week ago before the incident,
and they had both gone to observe another pro Palestinian protest,
and they got together again the next week at this
intersection in Thousand Oaks, and they met Sunday at about
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two o'clock, and he'll tell us the story of what happened.
Are you there, Jonathan Oswoks, Yes, well, thanks for taking
time to come on the show. So you met with
Paul Kessler just a week before. How did you make
his acquaintance. First of all, thanks for having me. I'm
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happy to tell the story of how and what we
were up to together. I met Paul through the social
media app next Door. We both live in the same
neighborhood basically, and I had noticed an uprising in social
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media where there was a lot of antisemitic rhetoric being
clustered all over social media. There were protests and counter
protests not only in the United States but throughout the world.
You've seen this yourself.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I took to the next Star app and I said,
this can't this can't happen in our community at there's
a large Jewish population here. We have to go out
and show our support for the fourteen hundred victims that
were viciously, brutally and nighacally.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Killed.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Animals don't even kill the way Hamas killed these people,
taking babies and putting them in ovens, cutting a baby
out of a mother's womb. And I felt very strongly
about this and wanted to be there to stand on
the shoulders of these giants that came before us, the
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six million, one thousand, four hundred victims, and now one
four hundred and one. Paul Kessler, So we met on
next door. He was He was one of those guys
I would say, if he was in for a penny,
he was in for a pound. And I never met
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him before. I had no idea what he looked like.
But when I first met him a week ago Sunday
this past I was actually kind of impressed with his
attitude and his He had a lot of spunk and moxie.
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You know, he wasn't a very big person from a
stature perspective, but from a heart perspective. To me, he
looked like David from the fable David and Goliath and
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and I. We spent some time together that Sunday. We
walked through the crowd. They harassed us. We had asked
them back a little bit. Uh, And it was all
fun and games really until somebody pulled a.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Gun on me.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
We shouldn't say, yeah, yeah, it actually flashed a gun.
I shouldn't say that, physically pulled it out and waved
it at me, pulled up his sweatshirt to show me
that he had a gun under there. And I was
assaulted on the sidewalk and pushed off the sidewalk into
the street. Fortunately I didn't lose my balance.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
But were you face to face arguing with the pro Palestinians.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
The week before?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
The week before?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, when somebody pushed you off the curb and flashed
a gun? Was was that a really close contentious exchange?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah? Come on, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay, And so you decide to come back again this
past well wait, wait a.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Minute, though.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
After the gun was flashed, uh, nine to one one
was called and the police came out. The Venture County
sheriffs absolutely nothing. Who flashed the gun at you? I
got a picture this guy right here, Well where is he?
I don't know, that's your job, And I said, and
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by the way, sheriff, how this works is they're on
four corners. On this corner. Maybe his hood is up
on that corner, Maybe his hood is down on this
corner here, maybe his mask is up on this corner.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
So there's like, what like sixteen permutations of what kind
of change a person can makes. What shirt on, swet
shirt off, what up?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Put down? Mask on, mask off? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, and that's what that's what they were doing. They
were changing their luck.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, it was they would rotate from station to station,
a station being a corner. Some of them would actually
change their appearance slightly by doing that. So what happened?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
What so what happened next?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
So the sheriff was trying to tell, you know, the
Sheriff's arrived. There's probably four or five of their SUVs
that Sunday, and they're like, well, which one is he?
And I'm like, here, this one in the picture, Well,
where is I don't know where? It's your job to
find him. Well, you know, if you can't point him
out to us, I'm like, look, the guy pulled a
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gun on me. You line them up all against the wall, all.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You there?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Okay, I guess his phone connection went down.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, we can take a break and recon because we
didn't get to Sunday that was the week before he's describing, Yeah,
with a guy flashed his gun. Right, we're talking to
a man by the name of Jonathan Oswacks. He's sixty
nine years old. He said that he met mister Kessler,
the man that died in the altercation on Sunday in
Thousand Oaks, Paul Kessler, and they met up that Sunday's
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demonstration where he had pro Palestinians on one side the
street and pro Israeli people on the other side. And
he can tell us what he saw as one of
the witnesses as to what may have happened to Paul Kessler,
who eventually hit his head and did not recover from
his injuries. That's next. Johnny Ken CAFI AIM six forty
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Speaker 2 (08:24):
We continue with Jonathan Oswax. He was with the victim
from that.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, Paul Kesler died as you probably know by now
a demonstration on both sides of the Israeli Palestinian question
in Thousand Oaks. Kesler apparently was approached by a Palestinian
protester and he felt hit his head. He did not
recover from those injuries. So this is a big story
and they're trying to figure out sheriff officials in Ventura
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County that's exactly what happened. There's a fifty year old
man that apparently had the encounter with Kessler, but he
has not been arrested. He lives in Moore Park. So
we'll bring on Jonathan who was there and did just
of the week before Meetler.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Jonathan, if we can, just because we have we have
a time limit. We went through you and Paul Kessler
protesting and having a scuffle with the pro Palestinians the
week before.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, but I want to correct you on something. You
said protester approached and then Paul fell when you were
describing this. That's not accurate.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
All right, tell us what happened on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
This pasty the man that ultimately hit Paul and killed him, Well,
I'm going to refer to as the murderer tried to
engage with me on the other side of the street.
He tried to antagonize me by sticking the bullhorn in
my ear from right behind and yelling, Alakbar, God is great.
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You know, Palestine will be free from the river to
the sea and out to pat I'm not gonna curse
on your show. But I turned around and I told
him to get the f out of my space. I'm
you're assaulting me with that thing. Get out of here. Oh,
you look like you could use some water. Do you
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want some water or something to eat? I said, I
appreciate it, but I want nothing from you except for
you to get out of my space.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Now beat it.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
And he couldn't antagonize me, so he went across the
street to go after the smaller of the flock.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Paul Kessler. What happened when he approached Kessler.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Well, you know, he tried the same tactic, putting the
megaphone in Paul's ear. But Paul had told me prior
to us even going out there to protest. He said,
you know, when somebody puts a megaphone in your ear
for the purposes of a protest, there's a California penal
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code that I CPC. I don't know, you can, let
me just look at it up here.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Generally, what crime would it be? Just in general terms,
it's an assault, okay? And so he so he he
shouts into the megaphone into Kessler's ear, and then what.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, yeah, CPC two forty, he shouts. And I'm sure
you know Paul gave him the same speech.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
That I did.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
But then I saw that, you know, the megaphone, you know,
come crashing down on him.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
How did he hit him with the megaphone? What did
he do? Did he raise it in the air, did
he side with it?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
No?
Speaker 4 (11:52):
He From where I was standing, I could clearly see,
first of all, this man was taller, and the megaphone
just comes, you know, right across.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It was easy to see.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
The big white megaphone had a big red mouthpiece on it,
and it had a huge long lanyard that was probably
eighteen to twenty four inches long, and I could see
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Okay, what did he do with the megaphone? How did
he hit Paul Kestler?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Punched him in the mouth with it?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I shoved it straight on into his face.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I looked to me as if it would you know,
as you know, it came down sort of like a haymaker,
if you will.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, And you know.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I could see from the pictures of Paul where his
mouth is cut, you know, hit him right in the
mouth right, which they talked about. The medical examiner talked
about that today, that the cut on his mouth was
consistent with being hit in the face with that, and
that obviously sent well, I'm swimming. It knocked Paul back
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on his heels, and he fell and struck the back
of his head.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
The sheriff said, they're not sure whether or not the
blow of the face caused the fall. You feel differently, Yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
The sheriff. Sheriff wasn't there. I was there.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Well, how come you're quoted in the New York Times
is saying you saw him swing the megaphone toward mister Kesler,
but not sure if Kesler had been struck. Now you're
saying different.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I don't believe I said that.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
It is in print in the New York Times in
front of me.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I have go look it up. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Well, maybe you should talk to the reporter because that's
how she has you, uh, discussing the situation.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
So say it again.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Mister Oswalk said that he saw the man swing his
megaphone toward mister Kesler, but was not sure if mister
Kessler had been struck. That is the same I.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Didn't okay, yeah, I didn't know that it was Paul
that got actually hit until much later. I saw the
megaphone punch, but I don't know that it was Paul
that was punched.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Not.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Well, they weren't clear in the way they interpreted you there,
because it sounds like, yeah, well, yes, it sounds like
you knew it was but didn't know if he is.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But you saw the megaphone hit a man in the
mouth and then he went down. He went down, and
it turns out to be Kestler, the guy you'd come
to the rally with.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I take it. You've been interviewed by Ventura County Police, YEP,
and this is this is what you told them exactly. Yes,
but you're expecting then some sort of a murder manslaughter charge.
I take it.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, man, are you disturbed that this man has not
been arrested and charged yet?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
This whole thing seems surreal to me. First of all,
they don't even have the megaphone. They had the megaphone
when they had the guy. But they didn't take the megaphone.
They didn't take the flag that Paul Kessler was holding.
So they didn't take the megaphone, they didn't take the flag,
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they didn't take the guy.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
What do we need them for?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Is it true that he stayed and called nine one
one and offered assistance?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
How I don't know that. I don't know who.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I don't well, I don't know who called nine one one.
I think that would be easy to figure out.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
They're saying he cooperated and he stayed around, so.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Well, wait a second. He was detained by police. They
made him sit down. He had his hands behind his
back like it was cuffed.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Alexandria Cossio Cortez reference.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
OK, all right, well, Jonathan, this story will progress and
maybe we can talk to you again at some point.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Thank you for sharing it with us.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
You're welcome, all right right.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That's Jonathan Oswax who was there at Sunday's demonstration both
sides pro Palestinian pro Israel in Thousand Oaks when Paul
Kessler died, hitting his head on the pavement, and he
was describing to us what he saw happened, and he
made it very clear that he believes this fifty year
old man from Moore Park, apparently a much larger man
than Paul Kessler, swung his megaphone as bullhorn at Kesler
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and hit him, and he went back and hit his head.
But the Sheriff's department is not confirming that that's exactly
what they've got so far, and they have not arrested
this man. More coming up. Johnny Ken CAFI AM six
forty Live Everywhere, iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 2 (17:06):
Were on the radio from one until four after four
o'clock Johnagan on demand the podcast and if you missed
the last half hour you might want to give this
a listen on the podcast. Jonathan Oswaks he was a
witness to what happened to Paul Kessler in one thousand
Oaks who was killed when after an altercation with a
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pro Palestinian protester, the megaphone falling to the ground, hitting
his head and dying.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yes, Oswak's had his view of what happened. Yeah, Well,
see what really matters is what they do in Ventura County.
The Sheriff's office recommending any charges to the DA there
and we'll see if this fifty year old man is
charged because Oswak's made it clear that he was harassing
both of them with his bullhorn, and then he believes
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that he struck Kessler, which caused him to fall and
hit his head and not recover. That's that's Jonathan Oswok's story,
and I'm sure that because the report today is that
they're getting conflicting statements from a lot of different quote witnesses.
They were looking for video to possibly help clear up
some of.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Them to believe there's not video. I mean, I mean,
whenever there's protests, everybody's got their phone out ready to go.
The slightest bit of scuffling, and everybody's clicked on their
red button.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I guess the key is if you actually hit them
with the bullhorn. I mean, you've dragged around the bullhorn
for years. Imagine swinging out of somebody's face. But I
always practice would go backwards and hit oh yeah, no,
that's heavy. The one we have that's yeah, really heavy.
I still have it at home in my office. I
definitely could kill somebody with it, but I always practiced
good bullhorn etiquette. Safe bullhorning yes, safe bullhorning yes, but
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to put condoms on it, well, cushions on the edge.
The Alsigunda Times has another one of those stories, and
I guess the number has come out. It seems like
every few months about where people are moving to. Droves
of Californians are moving to Texas. Here's the life they
are finding by Terry Castleman, staff writer starts with it
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one night to start with the first person. Jane Jordan,
sixty one, a lifelong Californian until August, sold her home
and moved to a place called Asl, Texas a z
l ee that's got to be a small place. She
wanted to stay close to her daughter and grandchildren are
planning to move from Irvine to Texas next year in
order to buy a home. And then she found a
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Facebook group that her neighbor across the street in Asl
had also moved from the same neighborhood in Corona, saying
it's a small world. I mean, you moved to a
small town in Texas and someone across the street also
moved from California, you probably think it's a really small world.
I mean, the numbers are big, but they're not overwhelming.
And California has forty million people a little under that.
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In twenty twenty two, eight hundred and eighteen thousand Californians
left for other states. Four hundred and seventy six thousand
moved in, so we lost three hundred and forty two
thousand people.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
They were all Republican voters.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
They generally are. That's what happened to the Republican Party.
And we know what the attraction of Texas is no
state income tax. People love that. And of course cheaper
real estate. Oh yeah, big plots of land for much
less money. But I mean we putted this out before.
Sometimes you put up at that stuff. But then when
there's homelessness down the street from you, and there's unchecked crime,
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and you're just looking at the politics, and you're like,
that's it. No, that becomes the last straw. See, that's
the thing, because you can't see it turning around. The
Times fuzzed it up by saying politics was one of
the top two reasons behind housing prices and traffic.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, but what that is is political decisions to allow
crime to run rampant, to allow vagrants and mental patients
and drug addicts to run rampant.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Oh, that's just your political view. That's not really happening.
You just see it that way. No, that's how they
look at it. Yeah, well I'll take them to San Francisco.
Let's take a walk through the Tenderloine district. It's what's
really happening. And that's what we have to where we
always talking about changing, be careful about what words we use,
because if they get to use their euphemisms, you won't
be able to think straight after a while. And another
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thing that has to be changed is no, it's not
what I believe, it's what is. It's what it exists.
Don't tell me it doesn't exist. Yes it does, and
it's because of the following conscious decisions made by these
political parties who are voted in by the public. Ultimately,
it's the public's fault that we have this rampant crime
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and homelessness. It's our not society's fault, but the fault
of the voters. Because I'm not gonna what I hate
is well, you know this is just a societal issue. No,
it's not.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
All these individual decisions on how people vote has led
to these policies being implemented. And there's little resistance and
people are getting what they deserve now some have decided
to abandon the fight and go to Texas.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, a lot of the people they interviewed actually are
happy in Texas. Some miss the beach, the weather's more
extreme here, but then they the gas prices. There's so
many things to their viewpoint that they don't miss the
state at all. So it's not one of those stories
in the Times where they found people that, oh, it's
boring here and Texans are weird and conservative, and they
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didn't really find anybody that said that, because it's like
you said, it is a lot of Republican people that
are especially going to that state. I think no. I
spent one weekend in Texas.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
My son had a baseball tournament there, and it was
where we were, it was surprisingly pleasant, like rolling grassy hills.
I remember driving down the interstate where were we We're
in near Texas, A and M and the surrounding areas there,
and it's not the hot desert that people imagine. There
is plenty of hot desert, but where they're building all
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these housing developments ringing around the major cities, it's kind
of nice.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, so more than one hundred thousand Californians moved to
Texas last year, compared with forty thousand who came here Florida.
Nearly seventy five thousand people from California. Thirty thousand moved
in the opposite direction. Washington, Nevada, and Florida each saw
fifty thousand California arrivals and far fewer people moved to California.
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Only forty two West Virginians moved. It's not that many
people with Virginia. Although my favorite part, John, you're old
stopping Crown New Jersey, Buck the Trent. Sixty six hundred
more people moved to California that arrived from California to
New Jerseys as well. And we know why. Oh, they
have high taxes at high housing costs, and it wouldn't
(23:33):
be a place to go if you're looking to save
on those things economically.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Gash not New Jersey, Gash in Texas to ninety one
Gash in California five eighteen.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And I have to always stick this in. I know
a couple of people that moved to California in the
last couple of years, and what they say to me
is what a surprise about the property taxes. I said, well,
that's Prop thirteen came gaps the increase.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
So that's the only pleasant surprise you get out here anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, because I know somebody to move from Connecticut. And
said that because Connecticut property taxes apparently were steep compared
to the rate here in California. And he was like, wow,
that's one thing I noticed is better. Right, things cost
more here, but not the property taxes. I said, Well,
thank the voters in nineteen seventy eight for Prop thirteen
and they keep trying to chip away at it exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Well, they gave birth to and raised idiots in the
succeeding generations.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
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six four seven eight eight six. Well, this also had
to happen. We have a reported death from someone who
used ozempic for quick weight loss. Ozempic, of course, is
(25:00):
a drug that's mostly for people who are diabetic. But
you know, one of the things that happens is there's
weight loss, and that makes sense because often people with
diabetes are often overweight. One of the side effects can
be uh, gastro paresis, and that apparently is what this
woman suffered from in Australia. But I just wanted to
(25:20):
read these other side effects have been reported because they're odd.
Ozmpic finger, ozmpic burp, ozmpic butt, ozmpic face, and my
favorite weird dreams about celebrities that happens when you take
this drug.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I hadn't heard that. No ozempic finger is what exactly
does it say?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
No, let's see there's a link. Yeah, I think I
can tell you what exemp You wanted to know what?
I all?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Right?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Oxempic finger. Oh, it's because people on ozempic aren't just
dropping pants sizes, finger and wrist sizes are shrinking too,
and that's the reason behind ozempic face. The face caves in.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, so you end up looking older and gaunt, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And these women are upset they're losing their precious engagement
rings because it falls off their finger.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, if you have some facial fat, it actually makes
you look younger because it makes you look like you
have a baby face.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
If you get rid of all your face fat, then
you look old and shriveled and the wrinkles become more pronounced.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, so ozempic face is a real thing, ozempic finger.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
What was the other thing, ozempic burp? But I guess
if the drug works on your gastro system, Yeah, you're
probably gonna have burps and.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Falls seems worse. Uh burps smell like rotten eggs, sul
furious burps.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Oh, it's the whole thing is to curb your appetite into.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Oh, they're worse when the patients begin taking their drugs
or step up to higher doses. They have a website
every ozmpic side effect explained.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Oh, and I'll bet your Osempic butt is when your
your butt shrinks. And people like bubble butts now, don't they?
Ummm yeah, yeah, your buttney.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
It gives you a surprising and unfortunate flabby appearance in
the face or in the butt, or in both. And
then then they get to the gastro paresis, which this
woman died from.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Her name is Trish Webster and she was trying to
lose weight to be able to fit into a dress
for a daughter's wedding. She did die officially from gastro
and testin illness. They have not officially linked it to OZMPIC,
but the family says she took it and they found
her basically unconscious with a brown liquid oozing from her mouth.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Oh my god, you know what that seems to be.
It is like your your it's stomach paralysis.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Oh is that gastro parice?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yes, so it doesn't empty into the intestinal system.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
So she lost thirty five pounds in five months. She
took some prescription injection called sexenda along with those epic Oh,
it sounds like too much.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
The stomach empties too slowly or stops entirely. It can
make it difficult to eat or drink. So I guess
your food and drinks start backing up. God knows what
the brown liquid was that was leaking out of her mouth.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
A cute gastro intestinal illness is what they say she
officially died from, but they have not linked it to
a zempic or a sexenda hair loss. But her husband's
quite confident that's what did her.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
In fatigue, dizzyness, muscle loss, Oh, zempic dreams. Yeah, but
the Wall Street Journal had a story.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I really about a lot of celebrities.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I don't believe that one.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
You just again, though these may most people may use
it ug lose weight and have none of these things.
But if it's a possibility, I'd say, it scares me off.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I don't want to I don't want a zempic face.
I don't want my stomach to seize up paralyzed. Conways here, hey, now.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Hey, now, there's a fire still going on in Orange County.
One of those last you know hangars that was built
out of wood back in World War Two, caught on fire.
They say it might burn for the next four or
five days. So if you live in Orange County, you
know what I'm talking about. That huge ass hangar there.
Bad vibes, bad vibes. Your guys ever been to that hanger?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
No?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
No, never heard of it?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I have you have? Oh it's nice, it's beautiful. So
madat would you should have blimps there?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Right?
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Nobody cares you brought it up, I know, but they
put it in the news. I'm like, nobody cares about
that thing. And then we also have Remember we were
you know, that big website.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
We were right, they were.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
They were valued at forty three billion dollars at one point. Yeah,
you know what their value is today, forty three dollars.
Not a lot of shares. It's horrible. Well, remember there
was a Yahoo. Remember when Yahoo was going to be
sold for fifty six billion dollars and the CEO said no,
they wanted more. And now it's worth you know, eight cents.
(30:16):
But it's amazing how greedy people are where you get
an offer for fifty six billion dollars and they say no.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I take it. Yeah, right, you take it.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
You come from a financial background and accounting ken, right, you.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Get out of there. That's right, I always have. Everything's
a pyramid scheme.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I just told my son that if if you work
somewhere in anybody ever offers you a seven figure contract,
sign it that minute, Yes exactly, just sign it right
away and shut up. Don't shut up, don't think about it,
shake their hands, say thank you, and get out of
the room.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
I remember being at the radio station I used to
work for, and I went on a sales meeting with
Bob Moore, who was the general manager.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I think you guys know sure, And we're sitting there.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
It was a big auto dealership and he said, guys,
He goes, I love the station. I'm gonna sign right now.
And it's a big check. It was a big deal.
And I look around and go, wow, you're a big
Lakers fan. And he put his head down and I go, oh,
what's going on. He goes, I'm a huge Celtics fan.
But the Lakers beat the Celtics in the playoffs, and
my friend having and I have agreement. I got to
(31:13):
decorate my whole office with Lakers stuff for an entire year.
He hates the Lakers, love those bets. So we leave
the room and Bob Moore kicks me in the ass
and he goes, buddy, look, you don't know this because
you're young and stupid. But once they say yes and
they sign a check, you got to shut the f up.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
That's right, it's a golden rules. I should take it
and run. That's a true story, man.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
And then we have a La City council wants to
ban overnight RV parking on multiple streets, which means more
than one.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
They're good, they don't. Well, there's a lot of breakthroughs
this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Well, and then we.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Got this this poor guy, this Kessler guy out in
thousand os you know, he's an American first, and he
got wiped out in one of these protests.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
It's just a horrible, horrible.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Thing it is, and that they got they gotta charge
the guy with something.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, probably, Well, I.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Tell you where there was a tiny silver lining is
once the guy got hit or once he fell to ground,
he was bleeding. One of the first people that knelt
over to try to help him out was dressed up
in you know, the in Palestine gear and all that stuff. So,
I mean, you know, that would have happened in any
other country. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
All Right, Conway's up next.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
He is the news and for Krozier, Yep, nobody's here
today live. I know he's got COVID like every other day,
live in the CAFI twenty four hour newsroom.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show.
You can always hear us live on CAFI AM six
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You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Of course, one of the big stories both here and
nationally is the death of a Jewish man. He was
at a demonstration in Thousand Oaks. Apparently they were on
different sides of the street, those who were pro Palestinian
and those who were pro Israel. Apparently one of the
pro Palestinian demonstrators came across the street and had a
(00:40):
confrontation with sixty nine year old Paul Kessler, and Kessler
eventually fell back and hit his head. Today at a
press conference, we didn't get a lot cleared up. Obviously,
they do believe that the head injury was the cause
of mister Kessler's death, but there's a lot of other
things in dispute. The other person is only being described
(01:00):
as a fifty year old man from Moore Park. They
have not named him, they have not arrested him. And
what we learned today from the Ventura County Sheriff Jim
Fryhoff is that there are conflicting accounts and they're still
sorting through this.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
We're going to talk now with Jonathan Oswalks. He first
met the victim, Paul Kessler, a week ago before the incident,
and they had both gone to observe another pro Palestinian protest,
and they got together again the next week at this
intersection in Thousand Oaks, and they met Sunday at about
(01:35):
two o'clock, and he'll tell us the story of what happened.
Are you there, Jonathan Oswoks, Yes, well, thanks for taking
time to come on the show. So you met with
Paul Kessler just a week before. How did you make
his acquaintance. First of all, thanks for having me. I'm
(01:57):
happy to tell the story of how and what we
were up to together. I met Paul through the social
media app next Door. We both live in the same
neighborhood basically, and I had noticed an uprising in social
(02:18):
media where there was a lot of antisemitic rhetoric being
clustered all over social media. There were protests and counter
protests not only in the United States but throughout the world.
You've seen this yourself.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I took to the next Star app and I said,
this can't this can't happen in our community at there's
a large Jewish population here. We have to go out
and show our support for the fourteen hundred victims that
were viciously, brutally and nighacally.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Killed.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Animals don't even kill the way Hamas killed these people,
taking babies and putting them in ovens, cutting a baby
out of a mother's womb. And I felt very strongly
about this and wanted to be there to stand on
the shoulders of these giants that came before us, the
(03:28):
six million, one thousand, four hundred victims, and now one
four hundred and one. Paul Kessler, So we met on
next door. He was He was one of those guys
I would say, if he was in for a penny,
he was in for a pound. And I never met
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him before. I had no idea what he looked like.
But when I first met him a week ago Sunday
this past I was actually kind of impressed with his
attitude and his He had a lot of spunk and moxie.
(04:12):
You know, he wasn't a very big person from a
stature perspective, but from a heart perspective. To me, he
looked like David from the fable David and Goliath and
(04:33):
and I. We spent some time together that Sunday. We
walked through the crowd. They harassed us. We had asked
them back a little bit. Uh, And it was all
fun and games really until somebody pulled a.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Gun on me.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
We shouldn't say, yeah, yeah, it actually flashed a gun.
I shouldn't say that, physically pulled it out and waved
it at me, pulled up his sweatshirt to show me
that he had a gun under there. And I was
assaulted on the sidewalk and pushed off the sidewalk into
the street. Fortunately I didn't lose my balance.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
But were you face to face arguing with the pro Palestinians.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
The week before?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
The week before?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, when somebody pushed you off the curb and flashed
a gun? Was was that a really close contentious exchange?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah? Come on, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay, And so you decide to come back again this
past well wait, wait a.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Minute, though.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
After the gun was flashed, uh, nine to one one
was called and the police came out. The Venture County
sheriffs absolutely nothing. Who flashed the gun at you? I
got a picture this guy right here, Well where is he?
I don't know, that's your job, And I said, and
(06:06):
by the way, sheriff, how this works is they're on
four corners. On this corner. Maybe his hood is up
on that corner, Maybe his hood is down on this
corner here, maybe his mask is up on this corner.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
So there's like, what like sixteen permutations of what kind
of change a person can makes. What shirt on, swet
shirt off, what up?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Put down? Mask on, mask off? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, and that's what that's what they were doing. They
were changing their luck.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, it was they would rotate from station to station,
a station being a corner. Some of them would actually
change their appearance slightly by doing that. So what happened?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
What so what happened next?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
So the sheriff was trying to tell, you know, the
Sheriff's arrived. There's probably four or five of their SUVs
that Sunday, and they're like, well, which one is he?
And I'm like, here, this one in the picture, Well,
where is I don't know where? It's your job to
find him. Well, you know, if you can't point him
out to us, I'm like, look, the guy pulled a
(07:20):
gun on me. You line them up all against the wall, all.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You there?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Okay, I guess his phone connection went down.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, we can take a break and recon because we
didn't get to Sunday that was the week before he's describing, Yeah,
with a guy flashed his gun. Right, we're talking to
a man by the name of Jonathan Oswacks. He's sixty
nine years old. He said that he met mister Kessler,
the man that died in the altercation on Sunday in
Thousand Oaks, Paul Kessler, and they met up that Sunday's
(07:57):
demonstration where he had pro Palestinians on one side the
street and pro Israeli people on the other side. And
he can tell us what he saw as one of
the witnesses as to what may have happened to Paul Kessler,
who eventually hit his head and did not recover from
his injuries. That's next. Johnny Ken CAFI AIM six forty
Live everywhere iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
We continue with Jonathan Oswax. He was with the victim
from that.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, Paul Kesler died as you probably know by now
a demonstration on both sides of the Israeli Palestinian question
in Thousand Oaks. Kesler apparently was approached by a Palestinian
protester and he felt hit his head. He did not
recover from those injuries. So this is a big story
and they're trying to figure out sheriff officials in Ventura
(08:50):
County that's exactly what happened. There's a fifty year old
man that apparently had the encounter with Kessler, but he
has not been arrested. He lives in Moore Park. So
we'll bring on Jonathan who was there and did just
of the week before Meetler.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Jonathan, if we can, just because we have we have
a time limit. We went through you and Paul Kessler
protesting and having a scuffle with the pro Palestinians the
week before.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, but I want to correct you on something. You
said protester approached and then Paul fell when you were
describing this. That's not accurate.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
All right, tell us what happened on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
This pasty the man that ultimately hit Paul and killed him, Well,
I'm going to refer to as the murderer tried to
engage with me on the other side of the street.
He tried to antagonize me by sticking the bullhorn in
my ear from right behind and yelling, Alakbar, God is great.
(09:55):
You know, Palestine will be free from the river to
the sea and out to pat I'm not gonna curse
on your show. But I turned around and I told
him to get the f out of my space. I'm
you're assaulting me with that thing. Get out of here. Oh,
you look like you could use some water. Do you
(10:15):
want some water or something to eat? I said, I
appreciate it, but I want nothing from you except for
you to get out of my space.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Now beat it.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
And he couldn't antagonize me, so he went across the
street to go after the smaller of the flock.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Paul Kessler. What happened when he approached Kessler.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Well, you know, he tried the same tactic, putting the
megaphone in Paul's ear. But Paul had told me prior
to us even going out there to protest. He said,
you know, when somebody puts a megaphone in your ear
for the purposes of a protest, there's a California penal
(11:04):
code that I CPC. I don't know, you can, let
me just look at it up here.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Generally, what crime would it be? Just in general terms,
it's an assault, okay? And so he so he he
shouts into the megaphone into Kessler's ear, and then what.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, yeah, CPC two forty, he shouts. And I'm sure
you know Paul gave him the same speech.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
That I did.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
But then I saw that, you know, the megaphone, you know,
come crashing down on him.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
How did he hit him with the megaphone? What did
he do? Did he raise it in the air, did
he side with it?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
No?
Speaker 4 (11:52):
He From where I was standing, I could clearly see,
first of all, this man was taller, and the megaphone
just comes, you know, right across.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It was easy to see.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
The big white megaphone had a big red mouthpiece on it,
and it had a huge long lanyard that was probably
eighteen to twenty four inches long, and I could see
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Okay, what did he do with the megaphone? How did
he hit Paul Kestler?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Punched him in the mouth with it?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I shoved it straight on into his face.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I looked to me as if it would you know,
as you know, it came down sort of like a haymaker,
if you will.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, And you know.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I could see from the pictures of Paul where his
mouth is cut, you know, hit him right in the
mouth right, which they talked about. The medical examiner talked
about that today, that the cut on his mouth was
consistent with being hit in the face with that, and
that obviously sent well, I'm swimming. It knocked Paul back
(13:03):
on his heels, and he fell and struck the back
of his head.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
The sheriff said, they're not sure whether or not the
blow of the face caused the fall. You feel differently, Yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
The sheriff. Sheriff wasn't there. I was there.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Well, how come you're quoted in the New York Times
is saying you saw him swing the megaphone toward mister Kesler,
but not sure if Kesler had been struck. Now you're
saying different.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I don't believe I said that.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
It is in print in the New York Times in
front of me.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I have go look it up. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Well, maybe you should talk to the reporter because that's
how she has you, uh, discussing the situation.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
So say it again.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Mister Oswalk said that he saw the man swing his
megaphone toward mister Kesler, but was not sure if mister
Kessler had been struck. That is the same I.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Didn't okay, yeah, I didn't know that it was Paul
that got actually hit until much later. I saw the
megaphone punch, but I don't know that it was Paul
that was punched.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Not.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Well, they weren't clear in the way they interpreted you there,
because it sounds like, yeah, well, yes, it sounds like
you knew it was but didn't know if he is.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But you saw the megaphone hit a man in the
mouth and then he went down. He went down, and
it turns out to be Kestler, the guy you'd come
to the rally with.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I take it. You've been interviewed by Ventura County Police, YEP,
and this is this is what you told them exactly. Yes,
but you're expecting then some sort of a murder manslaughter charge.
I take it.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, man, are you disturbed that this man has not
been arrested and charged yet?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
This whole thing seems surreal to me. First of all,
they don't even have the megaphone. They had the megaphone
when they had the guy. But they didn't take the megaphone.
They didn't take the flag that Paul Kessler was holding.
So they didn't take the megaphone, they didn't take the flag,
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they didn't take the guy.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
What do we need them for?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Is it true that he stayed and called nine one
one and offered assistance?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
How I don't know that. I don't know who.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I don't well, I don't know who called nine one one.
I think that would be easy to figure out.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
They're saying he cooperated and he stayed around, so.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Well, wait a second. He was detained by police. They
made him sit down. He had his hands behind his
back like it was cuffed.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Alexandria Cossio Cortez reference.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
OK, all right, well, Jonathan, this story will progress and
maybe we can talk to you again at some point.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Thank you for sharing it with us.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
You're welcome, all right right.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That's Jonathan Oswax who was there at Sunday's demonstration both
sides pro Palestinian pro Israel in Thousand Oaks when Paul
Kessler died, hitting his head on the pavement, and he
was describing to us what he saw happened, and he
made it very clear that he believes this fifty year
old man from Moore Park, apparently a much larger man
than Paul Kessler, swung his megaphone as bullhorn at Kesler
(16:44):
and hit him, and he went back and hit his head.
But the Sheriff's department is not confirming that that's exactly
what they've got so far, and they have not arrested
this man. More coming up. Johnny Ken CAFI AM six
forty Live Everywhere, iHeartRadio.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
App listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Were on the radio from one until four after four
o'clock Johnagan on demand the podcast and if you missed
the last half hour you might want to give this
a listen on the podcast. Jonathan Oswaks he was a
witness to what happened to Paul Kessler in one thousand
Oaks who was killed when after an altercation with a
(17:28):
pro Palestinian protester, the megaphone falling to the ground, hitting
his head and dying.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yes, Oswak's had his view of what happened. Yeah, Well,
see what really matters is what they do in Ventura County.
The Sheriff's office recommending any charges to the DA there
and we'll see if this fifty year old man is
charged because Oswak's made it clear that he was harassing
both of them with his bullhorn, and then he believes
(17:54):
that he struck Kessler, which caused him to fall and
hit his head and not recover. That's that's Jonathan Oswok's story,
and I'm sure that because the report today is that
they're getting conflicting statements from a lot of different quote witnesses.
They were looking for video to possibly help clear up
some of.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Them to believe there's not video. I mean, I mean,
whenever there's protests, everybody's got their phone out ready to go.
The slightest bit of scuffling, and everybody's clicked on their
red button.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I guess the key is if you actually hit them
with the bullhorn. I mean, you've dragged around the bullhorn
for years. Imagine swinging out of somebody's face. But I
always practice would go backwards and hit oh yeah, no,
that's heavy. The one we have that's yeah, really heavy.
I still have it at home in my office. I
definitely could kill somebody with it, but I always practiced
good bullhorn etiquette. Safe bullhorning yes, safe bullhorning yes, but
(18:45):
to put condoms on it, well, cushions on the edge.
The Alsigunda Times has another one of those stories, and
I guess the number has come out. It seems like
every few months about where people are moving to. Droves
of Californians are moving to Texas. Here's the life they
are finding by Terry Castleman, staff writer starts with it
(19:06):
one night to start with the first person. Jane Jordan,
sixty one, a lifelong Californian until August, sold her home
and moved to a place called Asl, Texas a z
l ee that's got to be a small place. She
wanted to stay close to her daughter and grandchildren are
planning to move from Irvine to Texas next year in
order to buy a home. And then she found a
(19:28):
Facebook group that her neighbor across the street in Asl
had also moved from the same neighborhood in Corona, saying
it's a small world. I mean, you moved to a
small town in Texas and someone across the street also
moved from California, you probably think it's a really small world.
I mean, the numbers are big, but they're not overwhelming.
And California has forty million people a little under that.
(19:48):
In twenty twenty two, eight hundred and eighteen thousand Californians
left for other states. Four hundred and seventy six thousand
moved in, so we lost three hundred and forty two
thousand people.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
They were all Republican voters.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
They generally are. That's what happened to the Republican Party.
And we know what the attraction of Texas is no
state income tax. People love that. And of course cheaper
real estate. Oh yeah, big plots of land for much
less money. But I mean we putted this out before.
Sometimes you put up at that stuff. But then when
there's homelessness down the street from you, and there's unchecked crime,
(20:22):
and you're just looking at the politics, and you're like,
that's it. No, that becomes the last straw. See, that's
the thing, because you can't see it turning around. The
Times fuzzed it up by saying politics was one of
the top two reasons behind housing prices and traffic.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, but what that is is political decisions to allow
crime to run rampant, to allow vagrants and mental patients
and drug addicts to run rampant.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Oh, that's just your political view. That's not really happening.
You just see it that way. No, that's how they
look at it. Yeah, well I'll take them to San Francisco.
Let's take a walk through the Tenderloine district. It's what's
really happening. And that's what we have to where we
always talking about changing, be careful about what words we use,
because if they get to use their euphemisms, you won't
be able to think straight after a while. And another
(21:07):
thing that has to be changed is no, it's not
what I believe, it's what is. It's what it exists.
Don't tell me it doesn't exist. Yes it does, and
it's because of the following conscious decisions made by these
political parties who are voted in by the public. Ultimately,
it's the public's fault that we have this rampant crime
(21:27):
and homelessness. It's our not society's fault, but the fault
of the voters. Because I'm not gonna what I hate
is well, you know this is just a societal issue. No,
it's not.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
All these individual decisions on how people vote has led
to these policies being implemented. And there's little resistance and
people are getting what they deserve now some have decided
to abandon the fight and go to Texas.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, a lot of the people they interviewed actually are
happy in Texas. Some miss the beach, the weather's more
extreme here, but then they the gas prices. There's so
many things to their viewpoint that they don't miss the
state at all. So it's not one of those stories
in the Times where they found people that, oh, it's
boring here and Texans are weird and conservative, and they
(22:14):
didn't really find anybody that said that, because it's like
you said, it is a lot of Republican people that
are especially going to that state. I think no. I
spent one weekend in Texas.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
My son had a baseball tournament there, and it was
where we were, it was surprisingly pleasant, like rolling grassy hills.
I remember driving down the interstate where were we We're
in near Texas, A and M and the surrounding areas there,
and it's not the hot desert that people imagine. There
is plenty of hot desert, but where they're building all
(22:45):
these housing developments ringing around the major cities, it's kind
of nice.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, so more than one hundred thousand Californians moved to
Texas last year, compared with forty thousand who came here Florida.
Nearly seventy five thousand people from California. Thirty thousand moved
in the opposite direction. Washington, Nevada, and Florida each saw
fifty thousand California arrivals and far fewer people moved to California.
(23:12):
Only forty two West Virginians moved. It's not that many
people with Virginia. Although my favorite part, John, you're old
stopping Crown New Jersey, Buck the Trent. Sixty six hundred
more people moved to California that arrived from California to
New Jerseys as well. And we know why. Oh, they
have high taxes at high housing costs, and it wouldn't
(23:33):
be a place to go if you're looking to save
on those things economically.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Gash not New Jersey, Gash in Texas to ninety one
Gash in California five eighteen.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And I have to always stick this in. I know
a couple of people that moved to California in the
last couple of years, and what they say to me
is what a surprise about the property taxes. I said, well,
that's Prop thirteen came gaps the increase.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
So that's the only pleasant surprise you get out here anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, because I know somebody to move from Connecticut. And
said that because Connecticut property taxes apparently were steep compared
to the rate here in California. And he was like, wow,
that's one thing I noticed is better. Right, things cost
more here, but not the property taxes. I said, Well,
thank the voters in nineteen seventy eight for Prop thirteen
and they keep trying to chip away at it exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Well, they gave birth to and raised idiots in the
succeeding generations.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
All right, we'll be right back. Johnny KENKFI AM six forty.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
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Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, and use that app to connect to our moistline.
There is an easy microphone thing there for you to connect.
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seven seven Moist eighty six one eight seven seven six
six four seven eight eight six. Well, this also had
to happen. We have a reported death from someone who
used ozempic for quick weight loss. Ozempic, of course, is
(25:00):
a drug that's mostly for people who are diabetic. But
you know, one of the things that happens is there's
weight loss, and that makes sense because often people with
diabetes are often overweight. One of the side effects can
be uh, gastro paresis, and that apparently is what this
woman suffered from in Australia. But I just wanted to
(25:20):
read these other side effects have been reported because they're odd.
Ozmpic finger, ozmpic burp, ozmpic butt, ozmpic face, and my
favorite weird dreams about celebrities that happens when you take
this drug.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I hadn't heard that. No ozempic finger is what exactly
does it say?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
No, let's see there's a link. Yeah, I think I
can tell you what exemp You wanted to know what?
I all?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Right?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Oxempic finger. Oh, it's because people on ozempic aren't just
dropping pants sizes, finger and wrist sizes are shrinking too,
and that's the reason behind ozempic face. The face caves in.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, so you end up looking older and gaunt, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And these women are upset they're losing their precious engagement
rings because it falls off their finger.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, if you have some facial fat, it actually makes
you look younger because it makes you look like you
have a baby face.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
If you get rid of all your face fat, then
you look old and shriveled and the wrinkles become more pronounced.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, so ozempic face is a real thing, ozempic finger.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
What was the other thing, ozempic burp? But I guess
if the drug works on your gastro system, Yeah, you're
probably gonna have burps and.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Falls seems worse. Uh burps smell like rotten eggs, sul
furious burps.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Oh, it's the whole thing is to curb your appetite into.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Oh, they're worse when the patients begin taking their drugs
or step up to higher doses. They have a website
every ozmpic side effect explained.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Oh, and I'll bet your Osempic butt is when your
your butt shrinks. And people like bubble butts now, don't they?
Ummm yeah, yeah, your buttney.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
It gives you a surprising and unfortunate flabby appearance in
the face or in the butt, or in both. And
then then they get to the gastro paresis, which this
woman died from.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Her name is Trish Webster and she was trying to
lose weight to be able to fit into a dress
for a daughter's wedding. She did die officially from gastro
and testin illness. They have not officially linked it to OZMPIC,
but the family says she took it and they found
her basically unconscious with a brown liquid oozing from her mouth.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Oh my god, you know what that seems to be.
It is like your your it's stomach paralysis.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Oh is that gastro parice?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yes, so it doesn't empty into the intestinal system.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
So she lost thirty five pounds in five months. She
took some prescription injection called sexenda along with those epic Oh,
it sounds like too much.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
The stomach empties too slowly or stops entirely. It can
make it difficult to eat or drink. So I guess
your food and drinks start backing up. God knows what
the brown liquid was that was leaking out of her mouth.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
A cute gastro intestinal illness is what they say she
officially died from, but they have not linked it to
a zempic or a sexenda hair loss. But her husband's
quite confident that's what did her.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
In fatigue, dizzyness, muscle loss, Oh, zempic dreams. Yeah, but
the Wall Street Journal had a story.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I really about a lot of celebrities.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I don't believe that one.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
You just again, though these may most people may use
it ug lose weight and have none of these things.
But if it's a possibility, I'd say, it scares me off.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I don't want to I don't want a zempic face.
I don't want my stomach to seize up paralyzed. Conways here, hey, now.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Hey, now, there's a fire still going on in Orange County.
One of those last you know hangars that was built
out of wood back in World War Two, caught on fire.
They say it might burn for the next four or
five days. So if you live in Orange County, you
know what I'm talking about. That huge ass hangar there.
Bad vibes, bad vibes. Your guys ever been to that hanger?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
No?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
No, never heard of it?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I have you have? Oh it's nice, it's beautiful. So
madat would you should have blimps there?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Right?
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Nobody cares you brought it up, I know, but they
put it in the news. I'm like, nobody cares about
that thing. And then we also have Remember we were
you know, that big website.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
We were right, they were.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
They were valued at forty three billion dollars at one point. Yeah,
you know what their value is today, forty three dollars.
Not a lot of shares. It's horrible. Well, remember there
was a Yahoo. Remember when Yahoo was going to be
sold for fifty six billion dollars and the CEO said no,
they wanted more. And now it's worth you know, eight cents.
(30:16):
But it's amazing how greedy people are where you get
an offer for fifty six billion dollars and they say no.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I take it. Yeah, right, you take it.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
You come from a financial background and accounting ken, right, you.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Get out of there. That's right, I always have. Everything's
a pyramid scheme.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I just told my son that if if you work
somewhere in anybody ever offers you a seven figure contract,
sign it that minute, Yes exactly, just sign it right
away and shut up. Don't shut up, don't think about it,
shake their hands, say thank you, and get out of
the room.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
I remember being at the radio station I used to
work for, and I went on a sales meeting with
Bob Moore, who was the general manager.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I think you guys know sure, And we're sitting there.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
It was a big auto dealership and he said, guys,
He goes, I love the station. I'm gonna sign right now.
And it's a big check. It was a big deal.
And I look around and go, wow, you're a big
Lakers fan. And he put his head down and I go, oh,
what's going on. He goes, I'm a huge Celtics fan.
But the Lakers beat the Celtics in the playoffs, and
my friend having and I have agreement. I got to
(31:13):
decorate my whole office with Lakers stuff for an entire year.
He hates the Lakers, love those bets. So we leave
the room and Bob Moore kicks me in the ass
and he goes, buddy, look, you don't know this because
you're young and stupid. But once they say yes and
they sign a check, you got to shut the f up.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
That's right, it's a golden rules. I should take it
and run. That's a true story, man.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
And then we have a La City council wants to
ban overnight RV parking on multiple streets, which means more
than one.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
They're good, they don't. Well, there's a lot of breakthroughs
this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Well, and then we.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Got this this poor guy, this Kessler guy out in
thousand os you know, he's an American first, and he
got wiped out in one of these protests.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
It's just a horrible, horrible.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Thing it is, and that they got they gotta charge
the guy with something.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, probably, Well, I.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Tell you where there was a tiny silver lining is
once the guy got hit or once he fell to ground,
he was bleeding. One of the first people that knelt
over to try to help him out was dressed up
in you know, the in Palestine gear and all that stuff. So,
I mean, you know, that would have happened in any
other country. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
All Right, Conway's up next.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
He is the news and for Krozier, Yep, nobody's here
today live. I know he's got COVID like every other day,
live in the CAFI twenty four hour newsroom.
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