November 13, 2025 • 28 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (11/13) - US attorney Bill Essayli comes on the show to talk about the lawsuit filed that says Prop 50 is unconstitutional. More on Gov. Newsom's former Chief of Staff Dana Williamson who was arrested on corruption charges. Who is Dana Williamson? California is revoking 17,000 commercial driver's licenses from immigrants after the Trump Administration raised concerns about illegal immigrants wrongly being granted these licenses.
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You can blow through it and what about an hour
and a half, right because we get out all the
the news and the traffic and some of the commercials.
So definitely keep track of what's going on. Because we
have Gavin Newsom's chief of staff getting federally indicted twenty
three counts against her. That's a whole sordid story. We
had a Senate hearing in the Pacific Palisades at the
(00:45):
American Legion where two Republican Senators Rick Scott and Ron
Johnson came and started hearing testimony from people in the
Palisades over what they went through, the complete abandonment by
the city, county, and state government for these poor people.
We'll have more on that as well, and we've got
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the Justice Department suing Gavin Newsom and the Secretary of
State Shirley Weber over Proposition fifty, saying this is racial jerrymandering,
it violates the Equal Protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment,
and they're going to court to get this proposition thrown out.
Let's go to Bill as Sale. He is the US
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attorney for the Central District of California. Bill, how are
you good, John?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I'm all right? Explain what racial gerrymandering is to people.
Explain the violation that is being charged here, and explain
the equal protection clause.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Sure, well, let's start with the basics here. Under the Constitution,
it is illegal, unlawful for the government to make decisions
based on race. We call that racist or racism, and
that is what we're alleging California did when it designed
drew the Prop fifty maps from the legislature drew that
and let's be honest, the legislature didn't really draw it.
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This guy, Paul Mitchell, drew it, who was hired by
the Democrat Party, and the legislature basically adopted his maps.
The problem is for these for the California is both
Paul Mitchell and Assembly members and senators said on the
record that these maps will create a new Latino district
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and they're going to empower and provide more power to
Latinos in California. He said his primary concern was to
add a new Latino majority district here in LA. You're
not allowed to do that. That is unconstitutional to draw
a district for a particular racial group. Now there is
a caveat you are allowed to do that in some
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states where there is a history of racism towards one
particular group, you can remedy that and you can draw
a district and have that be a consideration. But that
requires a history and a record of racism towards a
particular group. You can't just do that because you want to.
There is no such history or track record of that
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in California. And there was nothing wrong with the maps
that were drawn by the Independent Commission to say that
they needed to be remedied or somehow those maps were
racists in themselves, and therefore we had to remedy that
racism with this racism. So that's the problem California has, and.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
The Equal Protection Clause makes it clear that this cannot happen.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You have to treat citizens equally, and so if Latinos
are being favored and provided more power by giving them
a district and a representative, that it violates the equal
protection rights of the other people in that district who
are not Latino. So that is where the equal protection
comes in. The government is supposed to treat us all equally.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And it's interesting that they publicly admitted this is what
they were doing. This is not a fishing expedition to
try to find a technical violation. They made it clear,
it's like, this is what we wanted to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, they're very brazen about it. And what they said
is Texas was trying to erase Latino districts or erase
Latino power. So they basically sold this as our answer
to Texas, We're going to make up for what Texas did,
and we're going to draw Latino district here to make
up for what we think is happening in Texas.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You can't do that, and Texas did not do anything illegal.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well I've not personally looked at those maps, but if
they did do any illegal, they would be challenged in court.
And I don't I have not seen that the Texas
legislature used race as a factor to draw their maps.
I'm not aware of those facts.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
How long does a case like this get have to
go through the system here? I mean, is this a
quick decision or a quick analysis of the maps by
the by the federal judge, or is this going to
be a lengthy, twisted thing.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So it's interesting because of this impacts of voting right Sack,
There's some unique statutes at play. We're going to be
moving at the speed of light here. Basically, it starts
in the district court. We will be asking if we're
entitled to have a three judge panel evaluate the case.
It's going to be two district court judges and an
appellate judge who will make the initial decision on the case.
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Our immediate ask is that these maps be put on
hold so that the litigation can continue. People have to
start pulling papers and running for office in the next
couple of months here, and so we will not be
able to fully litigate the merits in this case that quickly.
So in the meantime we will be asking that the
maps be placed on hold and not to go into
effect in twenty twenty six. After this three judge panel
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makes the decision. We're entitled to an immediate review by
the Supreme Court, so it could get to the Supreme
Court very quickly.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
All right, now, on the case up in Sacramento. And
I know you're not personally involved in this, but I
just wanted to run one thing by you. And if
you can't comment, that's all right. But you know they're
charging Newsom's former chief of staff with twenty three camp
of corruption, Dana Williamson. And on the front page of
the La Times right now, they had a line about
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how they asked Williamson to wear a wire against Newsome
and they wanted any information she had about a possible
separate case against him. Do you know what all that
would mean? Because it wasn't detailed in the story and
I can't find any other references.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Anywhere, John, even if I wanted to, I could not
comment on that case, all right.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I thought I'd try your job.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You gotta try.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
We do fishing expeditions too here.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
So I definitely would not want to do anything to
jeopardize that case.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I understand. That's how very curious the Times of all
places put that in their front page teas that they
wanted her to wear a wire. All right, Bill A. Sale,
thank you very much for coming on.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Thank you, John, anytime.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Bill Sale. He is the US Attorney for the Central
District of California, the first assistant US attorney. Specifically, We've
got more coming up. There's more. It's hard to believe
here more. Well, I want to get more into this,
this this corruption case up in Sacramento, because we just
scratched the surface of this.
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So I got to say this. We have been covering
two big scandals today, primarily and then the third one
with Newsom getting sued by the federal government over that
Proposition fifty because it violates the Constitution racial jerrymandering. But
Newsom's Newsom's chief of staff, and you know, in the
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next segment, I'm going to explain to you more deeply
who she is. But Newsom's chief of staff, Dana Williamson
Uh is a real nasty, mean bully, and she looks
like a nasty, mean bully and she acts like it.
And her name is popped up in the news before.
You may not remember I've talked about her before, but
she single handedly tried to knock Prop thirty six off
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the ballot behind the scenes because they don't want Prop
thirty six justice. They don't they want shoplifting to be legal,
they want drug use to be legal, they want fenton
used to be legal. Those are the things Prop thirty
six attacked. And Newsom and Dana Williamson, the indicted Daily
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and Williamson, they've fought tooth and nail behind the scenes,
dirty stuff. They lost, but they got their revenge because
now Newsom refuses to fund Prop thirty six. So there
isn't rehabilitation for the drug users. There isn't treatment, i
should say, for the drug users, and so counties are
shouldering the burden alone and they don't have the money.
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These are very very bad, devious people. They're in it
for themselves. And Williamson was just an out and out crook,
and she had other crooks in Democratic circles, like Xavier
Besserra's chief of staff. He was the attorney general here.
Can you imagine this, The chief of staff for the
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guy who was our attorney general. They stole from his
political account. They're stealing from their bosses because it was
political donations. It wasn't tax money. But you got to
believe that a lot of tax money has been stolen
by this crowd too. It's got to and I wonder
if everything's starting finally to crumble, combined with this other
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scandal in the Palisades where you had two US Senators
holding a hearing and people in town are testifying as
to everything that happened. The lack of preparation, the lack
of water in the reservoir, the lack of fire hydrants,
the lack of fire engines, the lack of fire presence,
the lack of insurance now that we're finding out, the
lack of permits to rebuild. Did they want to do this?
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If they wanted to do this, what would they have
done differently? They would have done exactly what happened. And
now the Gavin Newsom donors who are in the real
estate development business, the construction business, they're gonna have a
field day in the Palisades putting up low income housing,
affordable housing, all the euphemisms they have. They're gonna make
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a lot of money building that. And they stripped away
the insurance from these Palisades residents because of a backfiring
plan that Newsom and Ricardo Lara wrote, Newsom and Riccardo
Lara wrote a new set of insurance rules that led
the insurance companies to pull out by the tens of
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thousands in the Palisades and other areas. How much of
people going to put up with now that we know
there's corruption right up to news office door. I gotta
believe that Williamson was right outside the door, right down
the hallway there, and she was doing some of this
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corruption while she was Newsom's chief of staff. She took
a million dollars in a phony COVID loan. Wait do
you hear more details? That's coming up meantime, I've talked
about Newsoen Newsom prancing and in front of the pompfoons
in Brazil at this UN Climate conference, and the political
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dot com. Oh the woman who was twitching over Newsom yesterday,
Camille von Kine. She got another one headline. Newsom is
a rock star, a rock star with one glaring weakness.
Uh oh, he's impotent in some way. See, he doesn't
have a seat at on any of these committees. He
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doesn't have a vote. He's just preening and prancing. And
Newsome has unveiled all these voluntary agreements, joint statements, non
binding memorandums of understanding. It's all bs, it's all gas.
They signed agreements with governments including Nigeria, one of the
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German states, one of the Brazilian states. These are fake agreements.
He's got no power of power what to do what.
He can't sign a climate agreements with other countries or
states within those countries. They're memorandoms of understandings. And he's
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very proud of these because he likes to hold fake
media events, fake press conferences and wave paper at the
reporters and then they write story saying Newsom is a
man of action. He's negotiating all these agreements. They're all
nonsense agreements. They're not binding, they're not particularly about anything.
They're about goals, they're about resolutions, they're about intentions things
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to his quote that they're to encourage each other to
be more ambitious, a symbolic marker. Absolute nonsense. But he
still gets the headline Nussom is a rock star because
most people aren't going to read the story. I think
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the love affair between him and Camille von Kino is
over looks like she's she's starting to sour hair. Nice
hair can only go so far. Yeah, I know, after
a while, you got to you gotta talk to the guy,
you know, and there's nothing there. All right, we come back.
We will give you a complete rundown of this newest
criminal that's been dug out of the NUSOM administration. His
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chief of staff and her name is Daniel Williamson, and
her bed behind the scene actions have really affected your
life because she fought very hard to block Prop thirty
six and she was told last year that she was
headed for an indictment. Newsom knew she left as chief
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of staff, and he never told the state that he
had such a corrupt public thief in his midst.
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All right, you got to listen today to the podcast
if you missed anything, because we covered the press conference,
not the press conference, the Senate hearing in Pacific Palisades
regarding the fire. We got two US senators doing a
complete investigation from beginning to end. We're also got Newsom.
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We had Bill Saley on the US Attorney here in
Los Angeles. Newsom is getting sued by the federal government
that Prop fifty is racist, basically Rachel jerry mandering and
violates the fourteenth Amendment. And we have his chief of staff,
Dana Williamson and others twenty three counts of federal corruption.
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She was chief of staff for two years from twenty
twenty two to twenty twenty four. So all of that
is on the podcast those three things. Who Show has
been about those three things that's coming up. All right,
let's get into Daniel Williamson. If you're just joining us here,
here's the quick overview. Dana Williamson. She's fifty three years
old and she's built like a tank. Let me tell
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you she's charged by a federal grand jury twenty three counts.
She's mean looking and when I read you some of
the transcripts here, you'll see how nasty she is. Twenty
three counts conspiracy to commit bank and wire fraud, bank fraud,
and conspiracy to defraud the United States and obstruct justice.
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She illegally wrote off a million dollars in vacations luxury
purses and private jet travel as business expenses after getting
an illegal one million dollar COVID loan. She is a
Democratic political consultant chief of staff for Newsom. She also
worked for Gray Davis, Gray Davis and Jerry Brown. She
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pleaded not guilty, had to put up a five hundred
thousand dollars bond. She had that money. And for those
of you were saying, now, this is just a Trump
revenge prosecution, No, this started under Biden three years ago.
An ongoing political corruption investigation began more than three years ago.
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According to the US Attorney for the Eastern District, Eric Grant,
Here's what Dana Williamson did. She and another man, actually
two other men, helped two hundred and twenty five thousand
dollars from an inactive political account belonging to Xavier Bessera,
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who used to be the Attorney general, then went to
the Biden administration and is now running for governor. He
had two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars in campaign
money left in his account, and Williamson and Bessarah's former
chief of staff, Sean McCluskey, went after it, and they
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got a lobbyist named Greg Campbell to direct the two
hundred twenty five thousand dollars from Bessara's account to McCluskey.
Then the money was passed to McCluskey's wife for a
no show job. And here's why he did it, Because
he's pled guilty. He's explained. McCluskey says he he had
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to take a pay cut when he went to Washington
to work for Bessarah as the secretary at the Department
of Health and Human Services. His salary was not covering
his expenses and he was prohibited by government rules from
receiving outside income. Now, get this, he was prohibited from
violating ethics laws by getting an outside job, but he
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wasn't worried about violating criminal law by stealing the money
from Bessara's political account. And Dana Williamson was in on
it and got some of the money. In twenty twenty two,
McCluskey met with Williamson, who was working in private practice,
and they agreed to a plan. They would charge Bessara's
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campaign account seventy five hundred dollars a month as a
fake fee for managing the money. Managing the money they
were stealing the money, and then took the money they
were stealing and said, well, it's a fee for managing
the money that we're stealing. I'm not making this up.
They ran it through Williamson's private consulting business and Greg
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Campbell's public affairs firm, and they funneled it through these
companies and it ended up with Sean McCluskey's wife. Supposedly
McCluskey's wife had a job, except it didn't exist. You
follow in all this, Then Williamson had a separate scam
going on again. Dana Williamson is Newsom's former chief of staff,
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false tax returns a million dollars in business deductions that
she got with COVID money. She had it like a
fake COVID loan. Bought Chanell handbags and earrings for fifteen
three d and forty three dollars debb. One Chanell bag
and earrings and a set of earrings and one Chanell bag. Yes,
but a Fendy handbag as well. Yeah, Fendy is up
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there too. Is Fendy higher lower than Chanelle? I think
lower lower? I see new heating and air conditioning system,
A luxury hotel stay for Dana Williamson's birthday tenth another
cash gift to a relative ten thousand dollars spent on
an amusement park here in California when she was at
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When she was at the hearing, she briefly turned around
to reporters and she raised her cuffed hand to wipe
a tear from her eye. She faces up to twenty
years in prison a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
fine for each count of the various frauds. I'm going
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to give you a little quickie read from a transcript
that's part of this, and I have to edit it out.
You'll get the idea. This is a conversation in the indictment.
This is Williamson talking with a co conspirator because somebody,
and it doesn't say who, submitted a California Public Records
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Act about some of this that was going on. So
somebody was looking for evidence and Dana Williamson got very upset,
so fing this request for any communications with all these people,
and it would capture all the meetings. And I was like, well,
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I'm f if I have to produce all that because
I talked to these a holes all the time. And
the conspirator said, right, also like Effer, and Williamson said, yeah,
I know, Effer, double effort. I mean this office should
play the same efing game they play and make them
wait three years so you could see. Usually usually people
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have chanel and sindibags have a little more class, not necessarily.
Just because you're rich doesn't mean you have class. So
they can be this crass and rude and profane. I see,
here's another clip from the Conspirator. Yeah, uh f her.
They don't know who they're messing with, Williamson, Yeah, they
really don't. They're talking like mobsters. They don't know who
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they're messing with. Gavin Newsom's chief of staff, and some
of this was done while she's in office with Newsom.
She gets notified of the investigation at the end of
twenty twenty four and tells Newsom so she has to leave.
But Newsom doesn't tell the public that he had a
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woman running things who's on the verge of a major
federal indictment and a long prison term. Now here's the thing.
And I found this in the New York Times story.
Now this is I mean, I hope I can find
this quickly. They that New York Times story also has
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a piece the attorney. Her attorney said she was contacted
by federal agents while she worked for Newsom and they
asked if she would cooperate in an investigation of the governor,
and she said that she didn't have any she did
not see any misconduct by him. So there's another possible
investigation into Newsom. Separately, and another story in the La
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Times said they asked her to wear a wire. I
think this is why Newsom was in Brazil this week.
Now it's all coming together. Yeah, I don't think he
wanted to be in Brazil in order to negotiate a
climate agreement with Nigeria, a non binding fake climate agreement.
He wanted to He knew this was coming. So there's
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a tremendous amount of filth in corruption that swirls around
Gavin Newsom's world, and there's going to be more bombshells
coming out, and he's not going to be president. He
might as well give up.
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This is important. I want to squeeze this in because
is another terrible scandal that resulted in death. Because of
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Gavin Newsom's policies. They gave out seventeen thousand commercial drivers
licenses to immigrants illegal aliens. Scott, can you imagine this?
Seventeen thousand and then one of these guys was involved
in a terrible accident on the ten Freeway that killed
three people, and the Trump administration. Sean Duffy, who's in
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charge of the Transportation Department, called out Newsom. And we
have a story here from ABC seven Madison Wheel.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
California is revoking seventeen thousand commercial driver's licenses issued to immigrants. Yeah,
the decision is directly related to the legal status of
the immigrant drivers. Eyewitness A new supporters live in our
newsroom with these details.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Madison, Yeah, John, Rachel Tony, that's right. The state says
the licenses are being revoked because they're set to expire
after the date the drivers are allowed to be in
the US.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
The move follows.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Pressure from the Trump administration, although California says these licenses
violate an existing standard that was already in place. A
nationwide audit was recently launched after a man from India
with a commercial driver's license issued by California allegedly killed
three people in Florida while making an illegal U turn back.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Into August incident.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
And a national review, the Department of Transportation threatened to
pull one hundred and sixty million in federal funding from California,
claiming the issue the state is issuing commercial drivers' licenses
to undocumented immigrants. Still, Governor Newsom says that every driver
whose licenses being revoked had valid work authorizations from the
federal government. Another horrific crash that is up to this
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issue and the spotlight is one that happened in Ontario
last month. It involved an undocumented man from India who
is now facing the hicular, manslaughter and reckless driving charges
after three people died in that fiery wreck. In September,
the US Department of Transportation implemented new rules for commercial drivers'
licenses to make it harder for immigrants to obtain these licenses.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Don't you love how the guy in Florida the illegal
alien in Florida was described as allegedly killing. Like those
people are allegedly dead. Are these TV people? Do they
listen to themselves? They're allegedly killed. No, actually did kill
because they're really dead. Same thing with the three people
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here in California that was six deaths because of and
Channel seven didn't know how to describe them. At first
they were immigrants, Uh huh illegal immigrants. Oh, then they
were undocumented workers or whatever. The trendy nonsense phrase is
now illegal aliens. And Newsom gave out seventeen thousand of
these licenses, and what do you know, people died because
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these people don't know American traffic laws, they don't speak English,
they're not trained to drive these trucks. Just more chaos,
absolute chaos. And I think the quote from Sean Duffy,
the Transportation Secretary, Yeah, listen to this. After weeks of
claiming they did nothing wrong, Gavin Newsom in California have
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been caught red handed now that we've exposed their laws.
Seventeen thousand illegally issued trucking licenses have been revoked. That
is just the tip of the iceberg. My team will
continue to force California to approve they have removed every
illegal immigrant from from behind the wheel of semi trucks
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and school buses. Yes, you had untrained illegal aliens driving
school buses in California because Gavin Newsom gave them a license.
Keep voting the way you're voting. It's all working out
really well. Too bad about those six allegedly dead people.
All right, we'll be back tomorrow. I don't think we
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can top today. We got Michael Krozer next, and Conway's
coming in. Michael's in the newsroom live in the KFI
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You can blow through it and what about an hour
and a half, right because we get out all the
the news and the traffic and some of the commercials.
So definitely keep track of what's going on. Because we
have Gavin Newsom's chief of staff getting federally indicted twenty
three counts against her. That's a whole sordid story. We
had a Senate hearing in the Pacific Palisades at the
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American Legion where two Republican Senators Rick Scott and Ron
Johnson came and started hearing testimony from people in the
Palisades over what they went through, the complete abandonment by
the city, county, and state government for these poor people.
We'll have more on that as well, and we've got
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the Justice Department suing Gavin Newsom and the Secretary of
State Shirley Weber over Proposition fifty, saying this is racial jerrymandering,
it violates the Equal Protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment,
and they're going to court to get this proposition thrown out.
Let's go to Bill as Sale. He is the US
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attorney for the Central District of California. Bill, how are
you good, John?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I'm all right? Explain what racial gerrymandering is to people.
Explain the violation that is being charged here, and explain
the equal protection clause.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Sure, well, let's start with the basics here. Under the Constitution,
it is illegal, unlawful for the government to make decisions
based on race. We call that racist or racism, and
that is what we're alleging California did when it designed
drew the Prop fifty maps from the legislature drew that
and let's be honest, the legislature didn't really draw it.
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This guy, Paul Mitchell, drew it, who was hired by
the Democrat Party, and the legislature basically adopted his maps.
The problem is for these for the California is both
Paul Mitchell and Assembly members and senators said on the
record that these maps will create a new Latino district
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and they're going to empower and provide more power to
Latinos in California. He said his primary concern was to
add a new Latino majority district here in LA. You're
not allowed to do that. That is unconstitutional to draw
a district for a particular racial group. Now there is
a caveat you are allowed to do that in some
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states where there is a history of racism towards one
particular group, you can remedy that and you can draw
a district and have that be a consideration. But that
requires a history and a record of racism towards a
particular group. You can't just do that because you want to.
There is no such history or track record of that
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in California. And there was nothing wrong with the maps
that were drawn by the Independent Commission to say that
they needed to be remedied or somehow those maps were
racists in themselves, and therefore we had to remedy that
racism with this racism. So that's the problem California has, and.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
The Equal Protection Clause makes it clear that this cannot happen.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You have to treat citizens equally, and so if Latinos
are being favored and provided more power by giving them
a district and a representative, that it violates the equal
protection rights of the other people in that district who
are not Latino. So that is where the equal protection
comes in. The government is supposed to treat us all equally.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And it's interesting that they publicly admitted this is what
they were doing. This is not a fishing expedition to
try to find a technical violation. They made it clear,
it's like, this is what we wanted to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, they're very brazen about it. And what they said
is Texas was trying to erase Latino districts or erase
Latino power. So they basically sold this as our answer
to Texas, We're going to make up for what Texas did,
and we're going to draw Latino district here to make
up for what we think is happening in Texas.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You can't do that, and Texas did not do anything illegal.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well I've not personally looked at those maps, but if
they did do any illegal, they would be challenged in court.
And I don't I have not seen that the Texas
legislature used race as a factor to draw their maps.
I'm not aware of those facts.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
How long does a case like this get have to
go through the system here? I mean, is this a
quick decision or a quick analysis of the maps by
the by the federal judge, or is this going to
be a lengthy, twisted thing.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So it's interesting because of this impacts of voting right Sack,
There's some unique statutes at play. We're going to be
moving at the speed of light here. Basically, it starts
in the district court. We will be asking if we're
entitled to have a three judge panel evaluate the case.
It's going to be two district court judges and an
appellate judge who will make the initial decision on the case.
(05:16):
Our immediate ask is that these maps be put on
hold so that the litigation can continue. People have to
start pulling papers and running for office in the next
couple of months here, and so we will not be
able to fully litigate the merits in this case that quickly.
So in the meantime we will be asking that the
maps be placed on hold and not to go into
effect in twenty twenty six. After this three judge panel
(05:39):
makes the decision. We're entitled to an immediate review by
the Supreme Court, so it could get to the Supreme
Court very quickly.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
All right, now, on the case up in Sacramento. And
I know you're not personally involved in this, but I
just wanted to run one thing by you. And if
you can't comment, that's all right. But you know they're
charging Newsom's former chief of staff with twenty three camp
of corruption, Dana Williamson. And on the front page of
the La Times right now, they had a line about
(06:06):
how they asked Williamson to wear a wire against Newsome
and they wanted any information she had about a possible
separate case against him. Do you know what all that
would mean? Because it wasn't detailed in the story and
I can't find any other references.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Anywhere, John, even if I wanted to, I could not
comment on that case, all right.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I thought I'd try your job.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You gotta try.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
We do fishing expeditions too here.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
So I definitely would not want to do anything to
jeopardize that case.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I understand. That's how very curious the Times of all
places put that in their front page teas that they
wanted her to wear a wire. All right, Bill A. Sale,
thank you very much for coming on.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Thank you, John, anytime.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Bill Sale. He is the US Attorney for the Central
District of California, the first assistant US attorney. Specifically, We've
got more coming up. There's more. It's hard to believe
here more. Well, I want to get more into this,
this this corruption case up in Sacramento, because we just
scratched the surface of this.
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Speaker 1 (07:20):
So I got to say this. We have been covering
two big scandals today, primarily and then the third one
with Newsom getting sued by the federal government over that
Proposition fifty because it violates the Constitution racial jerrymandering. But
Newsom's Newsom's chief of staff, and you know, in the
(07:43):
next segment, I'm going to explain to you more deeply
who she is. But Newsom's chief of staff, Dana Williamson
Uh is a real nasty, mean bully, and she looks
like a nasty, mean bully and she acts like it.
And her name is popped up in the news before.
You may not remember I've talked about her before, but
she single handedly tried to knock Prop thirty six off
(08:06):
the ballot behind the scenes because they don't want Prop
thirty six justice. They don't they want shoplifting to be legal,
they want drug use to be legal, they want fenton
used to be legal. Those are the things Prop thirty
six attacked. And Newsom and Dana Williamson, the indicted Daily
(08:27):
and Williamson, they've fought tooth and nail behind the scenes,
dirty stuff. They lost, but they got their revenge because
now Newsom refuses to fund Prop thirty six. So there
isn't rehabilitation for the drug users. There isn't treatment, i
should say, for the drug users, and so counties are
shouldering the burden alone and they don't have the money.
(08:48):
These are very very bad, devious people. They're in it
for themselves. And Williamson was just an out and out crook,
and she had other crooks in Democratic circles, like Xavier
Besserra's chief of staff. He was the attorney general here.
Can you imagine this, The chief of staff for the
(09:10):
guy who was our attorney general. They stole from his
political account. They're stealing from their bosses because it was
political donations. It wasn't tax money. But you got to
believe that a lot of tax money has been stolen
by this crowd too. It's got to and I wonder
if everything's starting finally to crumble, combined with this other
(09:34):
scandal in the Palisades where you had two US Senators
holding a hearing and people in town are testifying as
to everything that happened. The lack of preparation, the lack
of water in the reservoir, the lack of fire hydrants,
the lack of fire engines, the lack of fire presence,
the lack of insurance now that we're finding out, the
lack of permits to rebuild. Did they want to do this?
(10:01):
If they wanted to do this, what would they have
done differently? They would have done exactly what happened. And
now the Gavin Newsom donors who are in the real
estate development business, the construction business, they're gonna have a
field day in the Palisades putting up low income housing,
affordable housing, all the euphemisms they have. They're gonna make
(10:24):
a lot of money building that. And they stripped away
the insurance from these Palisades residents because of a backfiring
plan that Newsom and Ricardo Lara wrote, Newsom and Riccardo
Lara wrote a new set of insurance rules that led
the insurance companies to pull out by the tens of
(10:46):
thousands in the Palisades and other areas. How much of
people going to put up with now that we know
there's corruption right up to news office door. I gotta
believe that Williamson was right outside the door, right down
the hallway there, and she was doing some of this
(11:07):
corruption while she was Newsom's chief of staff. She took
a million dollars in a phony COVID loan. Wait do
you hear more details? That's coming up meantime, I've talked
about Newsoen Newsom prancing and in front of the pompfoons
in Brazil at this UN Climate conference, and the political
(11:34):
dot com. Oh the woman who was twitching over Newsom yesterday,
Camille von Kine. She got another one headline. Newsom is
a rock star, a rock star with one glaring weakness.
Uh oh, he's impotent in some way. See, he doesn't
have a seat at on any of these committees. He
(11:56):
doesn't have a vote. He's just preening and prancing. And
Newsome has unveiled all these voluntary agreements, joint statements, non
binding memorandums of understanding. It's all bs, it's all gas.
They signed agreements with governments including Nigeria, one of the
(12:20):
German states, one of the Brazilian states. These are fake agreements.
He's got no power of power what to do what.
He can't sign a climate agreements with other countries or
states within those countries. They're memorandoms of understandings. And he's
(12:45):
very proud of these because he likes to hold fake
media events, fake press conferences and wave paper at the
reporters and then they write story saying Newsom is a
man of action. He's negotiating all these agreements. They're all
nonsense agreements. They're not binding, they're not particularly about anything.
They're about goals, they're about resolutions, they're about intentions things
(13:08):
to his quote that they're to encourage each other to
be more ambitious, a symbolic marker. Absolute nonsense. But he
still gets the headline Nussom is a rock star because
most people aren't going to read the story. I think
(13:30):
the love affair between him and Camille von Kino is
over looks like she's she's starting to sour hair. Nice
hair can only go so far. Yeah, I know, after
a while, you got to you gotta talk to the guy,
you know, and there's nothing there. All right, we come back.
We will give you a complete rundown of this newest
criminal that's been dug out of the NUSOM administration. His
(13:54):
chief of staff and her name is Daniel Williamson, and
her bed behind the scene actions have really affected your
life because she fought very hard to block Prop thirty
six and she was told last year that she was
headed for an indictment. Newsom knew she left as chief
(14:15):
of staff, and he never told the state that he
had such a corrupt public thief in his midst.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
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All right, you got to listen today to the podcast
if you missed anything, because we covered the press conference,
not the press conference, the Senate hearing in Pacific Palisades
regarding the fire. We got two US senators doing a
complete investigation from beginning to end. We're also got Newsom.
(14:53):
We had Bill Saley on the US Attorney here in
Los Angeles. Newsom is getting sued by the federal government
that Prop fifty is racist, basically Rachel jerry mandering and
violates the fourteenth Amendment. And we have his chief of staff,
Dana Williamson and others twenty three counts of federal corruption.
(15:15):
She was chief of staff for two years from twenty
twenty two to twenty twenty four. So all of that
is on the podcast those three things. Who Show has
been about those three things that's coming up. All right,
let's get into Daniel Williamson. If you're just joining us here,
here's the quick overview. Dana Williamson. She's fifty three years
old and she's built like a tank. Let me tell
(15:36):
you she's charged by a federal grand jury twenty three counts.
She's mean looking and when I read you some of
the transcripts here, you'll see how nasty she is. Twenty
three counts conspiracy to commit bank and wire fraud, bank fraud,
and conspiracy to defraud the United States and obstruct justice.
(15:56):
She illegally wrote off a million dollars in vacations luxury
purses and private jet travel as business expenses after getting
an illegal one million dollar COVID loan. She is a
Democratic political consultant chief of staff for Newsom. She also
worked for Gray Davis, Gray Davis and Jerry Brown. She
(16:22):
pleaded not guilty, had to put up a five hundred
thousand dollars bond. She had that money. And for those
of you were saying, now, this is just a Trump
revenge prosecution, No, this started under Biden three years ago.
An ongoing political corruption investigation began more than three years ago.
(16:44):
According to the US Attorney for the Eastern District, Eric Grant,
Here's what Dana Williamson did. She and another man, actually
two other men, helped two hundred and twenty five thousand
dollars from an inactive political account belonging to Xavier Bessera,
(17:10):
who used to be the Attorney general, then went to
the Biden administration and is now running for governor. He
had two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars in campaign
money left in his account, and Williamson and Bessarah's former
chief of staff, Sean McCluskey, went after it, and they
(17:31):
got a lobbyist named Greg Campbell to direct the two
hundred twenty five thousand dollars from Bessara's account to McCluskey.
Then the money was passed to McCluskey's wife for a
no show job. And here's why he did it, Because
he's pled guilty. He's explained. McCluskey says he he had
(17:55):
to take a pay cut when he went to Washington
to work for Bessarah as the secretary at the Department
of Health and Human Services. His salary was not covering
his expenses and he was prohibited by government rules from
receiving outside income. Now, get this, he was prohibited from
violating ethics laws by getting an outside job, but he
(18:19):
wasn't worried about violating criminal law by stealing the money
from Bessara's political account. And Dana Williamson was in on
it and got some of the money. In twenty twenty two,
McCluskey met with Williamson, who was working in private practice,
and they agreed to a plan. They would charge Bessara's
(18:41):
campaign account seventy five hundred dollars a month as a
fake fee for managing the money. Managing the money they
were stealing the money, and then took the money they
were stealing and said, well, it's a fee for managing
the money that we're stealing. I'm not making this up.
They ran it through Williamson's private consulting business and Greg
(19:04):
Campbell's public affairs firm, and they funneled it through these
companies and it ended up with Sean McCluskey's wife. Supposedly
McCluskey's wife had a job, except it didn't exist. You
follow in all this, Then Williamson had a separate scam
going on again. Dana Williamson is Newsom's former chief of staff,
(19:27):
false tax returns a million dollars in business deductions that
she got with COVID money. She had it like a
fake COVID loan. Bought Chanell handbags and earrings for fifteen
three d and forty three dollars debb. One Chanell bag
and earrings and a set of earrings and one Chanell bag. Yes,
but a Fendy handbag as well. Yeah, Fendy is up
(19:48):
there too. Is Fendy higher lower than Chanelle? I think
lower lower? I see new heating and air conditioning system,
A luxury hotel stay for Dana Williamson's birthday tenth another
cash gift to a relative ten thousand dollars spent on
an amusement park here in California when she was at
(20:08):
When she was at the hearing, she briefly turned around
to reporters and she raised her cuffed hand to wipe
a tear from her eye. She faces up to twenty
years in prison a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
fine for each count of the various frauds. I'm going
(20:31):
to give you a little quickie read from a transcript
that's part of this, and I have to edit it out.
You'll get the idea. This is a conversation in the indictment.
This is Williamson talking with a co conspirator because somebody,
and it doesn't say who, submitted a California Public Records
(20:52):
Act about some of this that was going on. So
somebody was looking for evidence and Dana Williamson got very upset,
so fing this request for any communications with all these people,
and it would capture all the meetings. And I was like, well,
(21:15):
I'm f if I have to produce all that because
I talked to these a holes all the time. And
the conspirator said, right, also like Effer, and Williamson said, yeah,
I know, Effer, double effort. I mean this office should
play the same efing game they play and make them
wait three years so you could see. Usually usually people
(21:40):
have chanel and sindibags have a little more class, not necessarily.
Just because you're rich doesn't mean you have class. So
they can be this crass and rude and profane. I see,
here's another clip from the Conspirator. Yeah, uh f her.
They don't know who they're messing with, Williamson, Yeah, they
really don't. They're talking like mobsters. They don't know who
(22:02):
they're messing with. Gavin Newsom's chief of staff, and some
of this was done while she's in office with Newsom.
She gets notified of the investigation at the end of
twenty twenty four and tells Newsom so she has to leave.
But Newsom doesn't tell the public that he had a
(22:25):
woman running things who's on the verge of a major
federal indictment and a long prison term. Now here's the thing.
And I found this in the New York Times story.
Now this is I mean, I hope I can find
this quickly. They that New York Times story also has
(22:48):
a piece the attorney. Her attorney said she was contacted
by federal agents while she worked for Newsom and they
asked if she would cooperate in an investigation of the governor,
and she said that she didn't have any she did
not see any misconduct by him. So there's another possible
investigation into Newsom. Separately, and another story in the La
(23:13):
Times said they asked her to wear a wire. I
think this is why Newsom was in Brazil this week.
Now it's all coming together. Yeah, I don't think he
wanted to be in Brazil in order to negotiate a
climate agreement with Nigeria, a non binding fake climate agreement.
He wanted to He knew this was coming. So there's
(23:35):
a tremendous amount of filth in corruption that swirls around
Gavin Newsom's world, and there's going to be more bombshells
coming out, and he's not going to be president. He
might as well give up.
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This is important. I want to squeeze this in because
is another terrible scandal that resulted in death. Because of
(24:19):
Gavin Newsom's policies. They gave out seventeen thousand commercial drivers
licenses to immigrants illegal aliens. Scott, can you imagine this?
Seventeen thousand and then one of these guys was involved
in a terrible accident on the ten Freeway that killed
three people, and the Trump administration. Sean Duffy, who's in
(24:43):
charge of the Transportation Department, called out Newsom. And we
have a story here from ABC seven Madison Wheel.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
California is revoking seventeen thousand commercial driver's licenses issued to immigrants. Yeah,
the decision is directly related to the legal status of
the immigrant drivers. Eyewitness A new supporters live in our
newsroom with these details.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Madison, Yeah, John, Rachel Tony, that's right. The state says
the licenses are being revoked because they're set to expire
after the date the drivers are allowed to be in
the US.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
The move follows.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Pressure from the Trump administration, although California says these licenses
violate an existing standard that was already in place. A
nationwide audit was recently launched after a man from India
with a commercial driver's license issued by California allegedly killed
three people in Florida while making an illegal U turn back.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Into August incident.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
And a national review, the Department of Transportation threatened to
pull one hundred and sixty million in federal funding from California,
claiming the issue the state is issuing commercial drivers' licenses
to undocumented immigrants. Still, Governor Newsom says that every driver
whose licenses being revoked had valid work authorizations from the
federal government. Another horrific crash that is up to this
(26:00):
issue and the spotlight is one that happened in Ontario
last month. It involved an undocumented man from India who
is now facing the hicular, manslaughter and reckless driving charges
after three people died in that fiery wreck. In September,
the US Department of Transportation implemented new rules for commercial drivers'
licenses to make it harder for immigrants to obtain these licenses.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Don't you love how the guy in Florida the illegal
alien in Florida was described as allegedly killing. Like those
people are allegedly dead. Are these TV people? Do they
listen to themselves? They're allegedly killed. No, actually did kill
because they're really dead. Same thing with the three people
(26:44):
here in California that was six deaths because of and
Channel seven didn't know how to describe them. At first
they were immigrants, Uh huh illegal immigrants. Oh, then they
were undocumented workers or whatever. The trendy nonsense phrase is
now illegal aliens. And Newsom gave out seventeen thousand of
these licenses, and what do you know, people died because
(27:07):
these people don't know American traffic laws, they don't speak English,
they're not trained to drive these trucks. Just more chaos,
absolute chaos. And I think the quote from Sean Duffy,
the Transportation Secretary, Yeah, listen to this. After weeks of
claiming they did nothing wrong, Gavin Newsom in California have
(27:30):
been caught red handed now that we've exposed their laws.
Seventeen thousand illegally issued trucking licenses have been revoked. That
is just the tip of the iceberg. My team will
continue to force California to approve they have removed every
illegal immigrant from from behind the wheel of semi trucks
(27:50):
and school buses. Yes, you had untrained illegal aliens driving
school buses in California because Gavin Newsom gave them a license.
Keep voting the way you're voting. It's all working out
really well. Too bad about those six allegedly dead people.
All right, we'll be back tomorrow. I don't think we
(28:12):
can top today. We got Michael Krozer next, and Conway's
coming in. Michael's in the newsroom live in the KFI
twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to The
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