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the same as the radio show, because I've got so
much stuff lined up here and all of that is
all of it is big. And we're going to open
with a hearing, a Senate hearing. A lot of people
flew in from Washington, d C. And went to Pacific Palisades.
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There's a real Senate investigation going into what happened that
the fire was allowed to be so widespread and damaging
and deadly, and it's being led by Republican Chairman Rick
Scott another Republican Senator ron On Johnson. They had a
field hearing in Pacific Palisades today. They convened at the
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American Legion Hall in the Palisades and it was entitled
Forgotten After the Flames, Stories from the Palisades Fire. And
this is where a number of residents came up and
told the stories of what happened. Scott and Johnson are
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investigating this deeply because, as you are well aware, ever
since it happened, we've gotten nothing but platitudes, in most
cases silence from the people responsible for the fire being
so deadly and for being so destructive. Karen Bass says
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almost nothing about it. Newsom says almost nothing about it
except when he leaves the country. He blames climate change.
And I'm telling you, since I go to Palisades about
three times a week, the construction is exceedingly slow, and
permits are still a huge problem. And we have found
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out about the layers and layers and layers of incompetence
in Boobery right to this week. And I think the
final straw was finding out that the fire did come
from a hot spot related to the January first fire,
the Lockman fire they called it, and that firefighters were
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at the hot spot and knew it was trouble. It
was smoldering ground, smoldering tree stumps, hot rocks, and it
needed it needed a lot of watering, it needed a
lot of treatment. And the battalion chief who was on
duty at the time, Mario Garcia, said pack up your hoses,
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let's go home. And the firefighters didn't want to, but
he insisted, and you know what happened. But there's so
much more to that started on state land. The brush
wasn't cleared, The fire department showed up very late. Too
many trucks were busted, not enough mechanics, nobody wanted to
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pay for overtime. Firefighters were sent home at the start
of the I mean the list fire hydrants were busted.
And I don't know why everyone is zombie like here
in California, but when people in other parts of the
country hear this stuff, it's like, this is not possible.
This has got to be science fiction. So Rick Scott,
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Ron Johnson came to town. Scott's from a senator from Florida,
Ron Johnson and senator from Wisconsin. And I'm gonna play
some clips of Spencer Pratt. You know how the World series,
there's always like an unlikely hero, like somebody like Miguil
Rojas hitting home run late. This fire has produced an
unlikely hero in reality star Spencer Pratt. And if you
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watch the show as you really.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Know who he is. And if you don't, you probably
have no idea. But he has.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
He lost his house in the fire, and he has
been extremely angry and active on social media and constantly
going after the people responsible for the allowing this to
happen and not responding to it effectively. So we're going
to start with some clips of Spencer Pratt at the
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Senate hearing today and he goes through California not doing
prescribed burns. The firefighter leadership problem, Gavin Newsom let it rip.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Despite having routine fires every few decades, the state Park
has failed to do any real prescribe fire or fuels
mitigation to protect our community. Then on January first, they
didn't even have the decency to extinguish a small brush
fire that ignite just above us, letting it continue to
burn unchecked for a week ahead of the forecastied Santa
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Ana winds that eventually rekindled the fire and destroyed our
town on January seventh. As you know, my family and
I lost our hope, our home, and everything we own
in the Palasads fire. It's been ten months and our
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government leaders, instead of helping us rebuild, have only served
to make the rebuilding process so painful and slow that
many just quit and are forced out of their hometown
through attrition. So vultures like Gavin Newsom and Scott Wiener
have a blank slate to remake the Palisades in the
vision of their wealthy donors and foreign investors. Gavin Newsom
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receives billions in federal funds for fire mitigation, but it
would have only cost two hundred thousand to cut a
fire brake around our town and it would have saved
the Palacedes. The work never gets done and we all
pay the price. Many people shrug this off. Oh, the
Palisades are full of rich folks. They'll be fine. They
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don't know the Palisades. Many of us are not rich.
We simply lived here, our whole lives. This place used
to be cheap. Houses get passed on from generation to generation.
It's a tightly knit family community, and none.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Of us ever leave. I mean, why would you look
at this view. We were born here.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Raised here, we were raising our families here, and we
all expected to die here one day, but not like this.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
So that's Spencer Pratt. You can tell extreme pain in
his voice, and he's speaking for a lot of people
in the Palisades. Karen Bash has done nothing to expedite
any permits or anything else, and neither is Gavin Newsom.
They just lied to everybody and now they're ignoring it.
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They have no shame. And what he was talking about
investors donors for Newsom, it's true. There are a lot
of developers who have spent a lot of money on
Gavin Newsom and other politicians and they want to develop
low income housing, affordable housing, and Newsom and Scott Wiener
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that weird little Gerbil from the legislature. They wanted to
kick Palisades residents out and replace it with high density housing,
apartment buildings. That's been the plan. Told you this within
weeks that this is what they were going to do.
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They can't believe they have all this empty, fertile territory
to start building apartment developments and then call it affordable housing.
Really it's to make their donors a lot of money
in the construction and real estate development industry. And they
don't care what happened to the Palisades people. They wish
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they'd all go away. You didn't die, well, could you
at least get out of town so we could give
the payoff to our donors. And that's the real worlds,
that's what Gavin Newsom is about.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And Wiener.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Here's a quite cut five Pratt talking about the twelve
people who died.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
The twelve.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
The Pallisades family, were killed in the fire, nearly all
of them elderly or disabled, left to die in their homes.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Is people.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It's twelve people deserved to feel safe in their homes
but were instead lost in fire.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
It was a direct result of gross.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Negligent and mismanagement by our state and our local government.
I'm here to honor their memory by ensuring that their
deaths were not in vain and that their failures led
to this disaster fully exposed and corrected.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
A lot of credit to Pratt for keeping this story alive,
because the media gets bored and wanders away and they'll
do anything to protect Newsom in Bass. There's nothing but
partisan dishonesty, partisan hackery in our local media. They don't
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really have state media. But the LA media should be
ashamed of themselves. They should be chasing Newsom and Bass
every day. They've done nothing to ease the pain. It's
a bureaucratic mess. And Pratt's right. Newsom's got billions of
dollars in tax money and he's supposed to clear out
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all the brush to try to make the Palisade safe.
It's a lot of state land. Fire started on state land.
He did nothing, He's a fake and we come back.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Got another.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
At the end of Spenser Pratt statement, I also want
to play the Florida Senator Rick Scott flat out says
the Palisades fire could have been prevented, and LA and
California politicians failed, and they did, and this is not
going to be forgotten. This is going to be brought
up every single day and I can't wait till the
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Bass and new some campaigns start.
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Speaker 2 (10:33):
Today at the Palisades American Legion Hall, they had a hearing.
The US Senators came to town, specifically Ron Johnson from Wisconsin,
and we had the Senator from Florida, Rick Scott, and
the two of them listened to Palisades residents tell stories
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about what it's been like. As it's coming into clear
focus every day, that massive, massive failure. Every level of government,
from the Fire Department to Karen Bass, the City Council,
Gavin Newsom, whatever agencies we're supposed to make sure people
are safe failed. I haven't even gotten to the insurance
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scandal with Ricardo Lara and Newsom, where they concocted a
new set of insurance rules which backfired and people got
thrown off their insurance policies a month or two before
the fire hit. I was just talking to a friend
of mine last night who's got hundreds of thousands of
dollars because the fair plan didn't cover all the damage
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that his home suffered. I have a number of friends
this way. You have no idea about the difficulty people
are in because of the incompetence and the corruption. That
whole Lara Newsom insurance deal is corrupt. This whole thing
with Newsom and Scott Wiener getting low income house going
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into the Palisades, and what they do is they they're
strangling everybody by not issuing permits. Bast willon't issue the permits,
and then Newsom and Lara can I'm sorry, Newsman Wiener
can reward their uh real estate development donors by giving
him large tracts of land to put up housing, affordable housing,
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apartment buildings. And that's what's going on here. It is
It is disgusting corruption, and the people in the Palisades
have to be victimized, are being victimized, and uh, I'm
going to play a little more Spencer of Spencer Pratt,
the reality star who's really almost all by himself, has
kept public attention on what's going on in the Palisades.
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He was at the Senate hearing today and you also
hear Senator Rick Scott on this clip.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I remember Senator Scott, when we met in your office
in DC. You've shared that when a town gets destroyed
in your state from a hurricane, the pitchforks come out.
If it's not all rebuilt within three that's like science
fiction to us. Just up the canyon of Malibu Lake,
there's still dozens of burnout lots from the Woosley fire
that hit seven years ago, lots that still look like
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the Palisades does now. Up north in Paradise, seventy five
percent of the town is just barren, untouched lots seven
years after their big fire. It's hard to see that
and believe our town will ever be rebuilt in our lifetime.
It's hard not to feel abandoned by our state and
local politicians, and it's hard to not lose hope. Thank
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you to the committee for providing the Palisades with a
voice and a glimmer of hope.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
All we want to do is rebuild our.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Town the way we remember it, protect our neighbors from
these predictable and preventable fires. I'm grateful that you are
using your power to investigate what went wrong and how
to prevent tragedies like this from happening. I'm grateful that
you are shedding a light on all the issues we're facing.
We will do our part, and we will continue advocate
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getting for our community. We will not be lost or forgotten.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And that's Spencer Pratt, and I'll play you the Scott
clips later on. And what Pratt says is absolutely true.
What Scott says is true. In Florida, you wouldn't have
rebuilds that would take years and years and years with
little to show for it. These fires were started by
Gavin Newsom. Donors PG and E started the Paradise fire.
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Gaven Newsom donor to him and to his corrupt wife.
Southern California, Edison down Here started the Altadena fire. Again
major government donors. They were never forced to bury their
power lines, They were never forced to take mitigation exercises
when high winds blew they were never forced to do
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basic maintenance and prevention. They just paid everybody off in
the legislature and then made sure that we all got
charged all the damages, after all the lawsuits, and for
all the remedial work they have to do.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Now we get.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Charged, and Newsom mikes Greece is that wheel. He gets greased,
and he greases right back to so cal Edison and
to PG and E. That's the way it is. And
then again now he's greasing the developers that donate to
him and Scott Wiener, who wrote the law mandating more
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apartment housing, you know, six seven nine story buildings and
residential areas. It is just out and out corruption. And
I don't know why the Palisades people are are taking
out the pitch pork pitchforks like in Florida. I have
no idea why. I mean, you talk about battered voter syndrome,
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That's what this is. We are the people here in
California are so abused. They're they're like battered voters, some
kind of Stockholm syndrome, or you're identifying with your captors.
They are bad people governoring La and California. Gavin Newsom,
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Karen Bass Ricardo, Lara Scott Weary is a bad people
and they've caused a lot of damage. And Dasty funded
the fire department, and Kristin Crowley, the fire chief, was incompetent,
incredibly incompetent. And I go on later on, I'm gonna
play you Rick Scott, Ron Johnson, the Senators at least
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they're coming to town. At least they're coming to town
and trying to get some justice for the Palisades people.
There's almost nobody in the California political classes doing it.
All right, when we come back, we're gonna talk to
John Ally. He's an LA businessman and he spoke at
this hearing in the Palisades.
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the iHeartRadio app. We've been telling you about this federal hearing.
Senate hearing in the Palisades today at the Pacific Palisades
American Legion Hall, where two senators came to town, Republicans
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Rick Scott from Florida and Ron Johnson from Wisconsin, and
we played you a number of eclips by Spencer Pratt,
one of the more high profile residents in the Palisades
reality star who's been on social media relentlessly holding to
account Bass and Newsome and highlighting their lies, their indifference
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and the incredible frustrations everybody in the Palisades is feeling.
We're going to talk now to California businessman John Ally.
He showed up at the hearing today. John, Hi, John, Well,
why were you there at the hearing and what did
you contribute?
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Well? Homeowner, my parents lost her home, my sister lost
her home, my niece and nephew lost their home, and
my home's on the was damaged and it was saved.
But like many others, ninety nine year old dad, a
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mom that was ninety six who died in part due
to the confusion. It was a great hearing. There's motivation
from both senators and their staffs to provide a report
and to take action and to make sure that the
theme of money that is that comes is actually used
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the right way and not dispersed irresponsibly to local leaders.
That was the main consensus. Nobody in that room today,
even in the audience, felt that Karen Baths, the governor or,
Lindsay Horvath, a supervisor, could or would use that money
properly without having a go to other causes. And the
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other issue that came up was, and this was important.
You know, as a mayor, you need to convene your
department heads at least on a regular basis. Let's put
it that way, to determine if there's an emergency, if
there's something that happens, are we prepared, what do we need?
What are we lacking? We have a mayor that doesn't
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do that. She didn't even discuss our resources, and we
don't know, and she still hasn't how our city and
community is prepared for an emergency or evacuation of any kind.
And because of that, because death relocation of so many
families mine included, directly affected the safety of children, you know,
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parents and our treasured aged. And the senator he's on
the committee for aging, and he was very concerned about
how it affected. There was no notification, There was no
evacuation notice. People were told ten minutes before the fire
was across the street that they had to leave, just
from neighbors. And when they got down there were stories
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from penelists. When they got down to pch after waiting
forty five minutes on Chemiscal Canyon or Chautauqua, they were
told to go north and it was black, full of flames.
Then they were told they had to stop and turn around.
They went the other way. It was a disaster, total unpreparedness.
And yet they want to do They want more density,
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and it's worse now because now we've got more loiters.
The street lights, all the street lights still aren't working
in the Polisades. Karen bass Is cut back the police,
and incidentally she did that the same day that she
allocated Secret Service police LAPD for UH our vice president,
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our former vice president.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Kama Harris, Last Long Yeah, for her book, Last Long Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
But you know, we've we've still got you know, unfortunately,
Santa Monica's approved bus service to the Palisades where there
aren't many services going on. So instead of the homeless
and the attics staying in brush areas, they're making their
way into empty homes that still remained, into the patios.
There's a graffiti, there's tagging, it's a mess. And and
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and you know, I questioned why the mayor still hasn't
dealt with the forty or forty five fire trucks that
are in a yard waiting to be repaired.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Still, the fire trucks haven't been fixed.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Not all of them. And and we're at a budget
that it's still not more than it was in twenty nineteen.
So yes, more money was given to the fire department
in the recent budget, but not as much as we
had four years ago. So we're going to have another fire.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
It will happened.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
And I just wonder if the rest of the Palisades
and Brentwood and the hills above Mandeville, the Santa Monica
Mountain area, how much of that will burn because there's
less told of back now. The Palisades is desolate, very
few homes remain, and those that remain, there's nobody there,
hardly anyone there.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, I go there several through there, several times a week,
so I see it.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
And our house is on Patrol Canyon, and Patrol Canyon
is a brand new Canyon funded a great expense by
the city new fire roads. Those fire roads were never
opened during the fire, so homes on both sides totally
about four thousand. The Alphabet streets, the Huntington all the
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way to castelmar El Medio Bluffs, Dale burned, Dale burned,
and the fire road it splits those areas was never
used because the fire trucks weren't there. They were told
to go home.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
They were told to go home.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
See I keep hearing this over and over again, wine
God's name, while the fire is burning and threatening new neighborhoods.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Would the fire trucks be told to go home?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
No, I've never heard an answer to it was hard
to believe this is really true.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
What's the story?
Speaker 6 (23:35):
To be specific, they were told to go home on
January first, that the Slumber fire that was still smoldering
was out. That's when they were told to go home.
But during that reignited when the winds came. And these
fires are very very common in the Midwest where there's
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six pack six six feet of snowpack. Every year they
reignite in the same areas, and that's what happened on
January seventh, the same fire, the same place. Yes, it
was intentionally set, but it reignited on January seventh, and
the Palisads burned, and we weren't prepared. We had fire
trucks that were then to Hollywood. We had fire trucks
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that the text messages between the supervisor and the Mayor's
office show they didn't want going to the Pulisades because
each fire truck has a paramedic and they didn't want
the rest of the city to suffer if paramedics were
needed in other parts of the city. Meanwhile, homes started
burning at twelve two o'clock in the afternoon January seventh.
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The next day, at five am, six am, on my
electric bike with a friend, I drove by my sister's
house and what they call the Alphabet Street area, and
those homes were just burning. No fire trucks. They gave
up on the area.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
They let it burn. The city of Los Angeles let
the Palisades burn. John, we'll talk again soon. Thank you
for coming on again. Oh you're welcome, businessman, John Alley.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
That's what happened.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Fire trucks and paramedics are largely used to put out
homeless fires all day, by the thousands each year. Here
you had a brush fire taking out one of those
beautiful sections of LA and Karen Bass kristin Crowley, LA
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City Council. They let it burn and now it's gone
and there's been no repercussions, no consequences for these people.
Got more coming up after two o'clock. James Gallagher. We
were gonna have him one and we will talk a
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bit about how he wants California split in two. But
we're also going to get him to talk about this
fraud case, a federal fraud case against Gavin Newsom's former
chief of staff Dana Williamson, and they were also wanting
to investigate Newsom perhaps in an unrelated matter. By the way,
this investigation started during the Joe Biden administration.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
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Speaker 2 (26:31):
We are going to go into this story extensively after
Devers two o'clock News, and we're gonna start off with
James Gallagher. He's a Republican assemblyman and this is the bombshell.
Last night, Gavin Newsom's former chief of staff was arrested
and charged with skimming two hundred and twenty five thousand
dollars from a dormant campaign fund. Her name is Dana Williamson,
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fifty three years old. She was Newsam's top aid for
two years from twenty twenty two to twenty four. Charged
by a federal grand jury with twenty three counts conspiracy
that can make bank and wire fraud, bank fraud, fraud
to a conspiracy to defraud the United States, and obstruct justice.
Also accused of accessing an illegal COVID loan for a
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million dollars, which she used to go on luxury vacations,
home improvements, a new heating and air conditioning system, a
ten thousand dollars cash gift to a relative, and.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Chanel and Fendi handbags.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
I love that you texted that to me yesterday. That
cracked me up.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
It was a fifteen thousand dollars Chanel handbag.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
No, I do not have one, John, so.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Sound about right though? Fifteen grand.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
No, that actually sounds like a lot. But maybe, I
mean that's not my price range, so maybe there are
some you.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Just don't shop on it on that I.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
No, I can't afford fifteen thousand dollars handbags.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Well that wasn't the question, though, What was the question?
Do you want a fifteen thousand dollars Are.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
You offering to get me one for Christmas? Then I
won't turn it down. I like black, it's just neutral color.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
So I was just trying to confirm that these exists,
that women really do spend.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
This kind of money a lot of celebrities.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Any Dana Williamson is an out and out crook. And
here's the weird twist. And I don't know what this means,
but in the there's a front page t's on the
La Times on their website and it says that Newsom's
I'm sorry that Williamson's attorney said she was asked to
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wear a wire.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Now that line is not in the story.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
But what's in the story is that they wanted her
provide information on Newsome because of a separate investigation that
he may be involved in. So the teaser paragraph on
the front doesn't quite match up with the actual story,
but it appears there may be a second investigation into
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Newsom himself. Newsom, of course, has said nothing since this broke.
She was the most important person in his administration for
two years, and of course she's claiming I know nothing.
She left in November of twenty twenty four after telling
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Newsom she was under federal investigation. He of course did
not share that information with the public at all until
it came out she was involved in this conspiracy with
a guy named Sean McCluskey who's already pleaded guilty. McCluskey
was the chief of staff for Xavier.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Bessera Pavier Bakaria, who.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Who is running for governor to replace Newsom, and was
attorney general for four years here in California. And so
they've accused her of working with McCluskey to direct two
hundred and twenty five thousand dollars from a dormant campaign
account that Bessarah.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Had jaber At bat Karia.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
But Sarah apparently didn't know there was two hundred and
twenty five thousand dollars lying around, and Williamson and McCluskey
approached it and then they gave the money to McCluskey's
wife for a no show position.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
They're much more to this.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
We're going to start over James Gallagher, a Republican assemblyman,
and we're also going to play more eclips from the
fire hearing as well. So we have a tremendous news
day involving all the incompetence and corruption of the people
that you vote for and that your taxes pay their
salaries and are still in office, and they're screwing you
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left and right. They're letting your homes burn, and they're
stealing your money. We'll talk about it. We come back
Deborah Mark live in the camp By twenty four hour Newsroom.
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