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June 11, 2025 51 mins

The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (06/11) - Press conference featuring LAPD Chief Jim McDonnell, LA County Sheriff Robert Luna and LA County DA Nathan Hochman announcing charges for protestors arrested during the anti-ICE protests in LA. More on the anti-ICE protests in LA. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can'f I am six forty you're listening to the John
Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Well, thank you very much for coming today. We will
be joined. I will be joined.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
My name is Nathan Hoffman. I'm the District Attorney of
Los Angeles County. You'll hear after myself from Sheriff Robert
Luna of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, and then
Jim McDonald, the chief.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Of the Los Angeles Police Department.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Before I announce the charges, the state charges that have
been brought that are tied to these immigration protests, let
me first put an overview about the charges. The complaints
and the information you will hear about the charges today
are not evidence. Evidence has to be presented in a
court of law. A individual is presumed innocent until and

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unless they are approved guilty in that court of law
beyond a reasonable doubt. So the discussion of the charges
today is just that, it's a discussion of charges and
not ultimately. It does not ultimately constitute evidence of the
crimes that will be presented in a court of law.
So I first want to start out with a thank

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you on behalf of the district Attorney's Office. I want
to thank the hundreds of law enforcement officers from the LAPD,
from Los Angeles Sheriff's Department, from their related law enforcement
agencies that have come to Los Angeles to help out
in this situation. It is not a situation, certainly that

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law enforcement intended to actually have happened. Both the District
Attorney's Office, the LAPD, the LA Sheriff's Department, and local
law enforcement do not participate in federal civil immigration enforcement.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I want to make that crystal clear. We were not
alerted ahead of time that this was going to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
We were not involved in the participation of it or
the staging of it.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
We are not involved at.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
All with respect to federal civil immigration enforcement. What happened, though,
is that though the law enforcement has done its absolute
best to protect individuals who want it legitimately to protest,
to use their First Amendment rights of speech to peacefully assemble,
and I say law enforcement has worked incredibly hard.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
They have worked over time to make sure that people.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Who want to engage in this legitimate protest have the
opportunity to do so. The District Attorney's Office equally will
fiercely protect people's rights to peacefully assemble and peacefully engage
in First Amendment protected speech. However, when that speech crosses
over from protected speech into illegal conduct, the people who

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engage in that illegal conduct will be prosecuted. They will
first be arrested, they will be prosecuted, and they will
be punished to the full extent of the law.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
We have said this repeatedly.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
We've said this as a warning to people who are
thinking about conducting these illegal acts, pretending that they are
engaged in protests. But at the moment they engage in
the illegal acts, they are no longer legitimate First Amendment protesters.
They are criminals, and they will be prosecuted as criminals.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
If people want to hurl insults, we will protect that.
If people want to engage in crimes, we will prosecute them.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
So hurling bricks, hurling cinder blocks, hurling fireworks will not
be tolerated in this county now or ever. So when
we talk about the cases that we are brought, I'm
going to highlight five cases day that we have brought
in order to again to give an example of the

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types of cases that we are bringing and as importantly,
the types of potential criminal consequences the individuals who've engaged
in this criminal activity will face in saying that we
have literally we will be having literally dozens and dozens
of additional cases that will be brought to us from

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law enforcement to consider filing in.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
The weeks to come. We will look through all those cases.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
And by the way, it's a quick aside for any
individual who's engaged in criminal conduct but did not get
immediately arrested, let me provide some bad news for you.
There's a tremendous amount of video out there through social
media and otherwise, we will know who you.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Are who engage in this conduct. We will track you down.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
We will arrest you, we will prosecute you, and we
will punish you. So for people who've already engaged in
this in this illegal activity, we're coming for you. For
people who are thinking that maybe this is a good
idea to do, please take this as your warning that
if you engage in this conduct, please don't come to

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us afterwards and say we didn't think anything was going
to happen to us, because those prosecutions will occur. And again,
before I go into the examples, let me give you
one more overview. If you only saw the social media
and the media reports of what's going on over the
last five days, you would think that Los Angeles is

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on the verge of war, that we are truly being
attacked repeatedly, over and over and over again, because that
has been the media's message to both people in Los Angeles,
to people in the state of California, to people in
this nation, to people throughout this entire world, that somehow,
every second of every day, there's another exploding firework on

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our street, that motorcycles are running into cops, that stores
are being looted, that buildings are being vandalized and graffiti.
But let me put this in perspective for you. There
are eleven million people in this county, four million of
which live in Los Angeles City. That there's probably thousands

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of people who've engaged in legitimate protests, let's say four
thousand people.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
That means that ninety nine point nine.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Percent of people who live in Los Angeles City or
generally in Los Angeles County have not engaged in any
protest at all. Now, amongst the people who've engaged in protests,
we estimate there are hundreds of people, let's say, up
to maybe four hundred to use rough percentages who've engaged
in this type of illegal activity. So what does that mean.

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That means that ninety nine point nine nine percent of
people who live in Los Angeles City or live in
Los Angeles County have not committed any illegal acts in
connection with this protest whatsoever. So let's put that as
a context when we look at these images over and
over again that the media wants to put out there

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to try and scare us all, and then understand what
the recentes that we can bring, that law enforcement can
bring to this task. The Los Angeles Police Department has
over eighty five hundred officers. Sheriff Luna has over nine
thousand officers, the California Highway Patrol, the local law enforcement
agencies that have all been enlisted and have been so

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generous in helping us out bring additional thousands of officers
if needed for any level of civil unrest that might occur,
and that civil unrest has been on a downward trend
over the last several days. But these law enforcement officers
are absolutely ready for anything that comes their way. So

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let me describe these five cases. The first case involves
an individual has been charged.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
His name is Juan Rodriguez. He's from Guardina.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
He's been charged with one felony count of assault upon
a peace officer, resisting arrests and advocating violence against an
officer that is caused in the In the at five
pm on June eighth, mister Rodriguez allegedly passed out commercial
grade fireworks to a group of protesters who lit them

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and through these commercial grade fireworks at police officers at
the intersection of First Street and Los Angeles Street. He's
also accused of throwing the fireworks himself at the officers,
and one of these fireworks exploded and injured an officer
from the exploding sparks. If convicted as charge, mister Rodriguez

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will be facing six years and four months in state prison.
Second case, it involves Randy Paul Ruiz and Georgina Ravalero.
Both have been charged with two felony counts of assault
upon a police peace officer. On June eighth, at approximately
three forty pm, police were holding a skirmish line at

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the corner of Temple and Alameda Streets, where mister Ruiz
allegedly drove his motorcycle into a line of officers. Minutes later,
Ravalero is accused of driving another motorcycle into the officers,
injuring one and knocking down several others. If convicted as charge,

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Ruiz and Ravalerro each face up to six years and
four months in state prison.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Third case, Timmy Paulk and Raven Mitchell.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
This case involves both of these individuals being charged with
one felony count of second degree commercial burglary and grand theft.
On June eighth, at about ten point fifteen pm, Mitchell
was double park near a Nike store in the six
hundred block of South Broadway.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
There was allegedly being looted by a group of people.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Paulk is accused of stealing multiple items from that store
and getting into the car driven by Mitchell led but
they were arrested a short time later. If convicted is charged,
they each face up to three years in state prison.
The next two cases are Los Angeles Sherif's Department cases.

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Sheriff Luna will provide additional facts about these cases, but
let me just give a quick overview of each one.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Ulysses Sanchez.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Ulysses Sanchez has been charged with one felony count of
assault with a deadly weapon possession of a firearm by
a felon, and one misdemeanor count each of reckless driving
and possession of a smoking device. On June eighth, at
nine thirty five pm, mister Sanchez engaged in reckless driving.

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It is minivan in downtown Los Angeles. Many of you
saw the video footage of this where he was driving
in doughnuts and injuring individuals. Mister Sanchez is a third striker.
If convicted as charged, Sanchez faces up to twenty five
years to life in stay prison.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
The fifth case.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Is Christopher Gonzalez and Joselyn Johnson. In this case, they'd
both been charged with one felony count of conspiracy to
commit vandalism and two felony accounts of.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Vandalism as well.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
On June ninth, at six point thirty pm, mister Gonzalez
is accused of vandalizing an apartment complex down here on
the five hundred block of South Broadway, and mister Gonzalez
allegedly painted graffiti right here on the Hall of Justice.
They each face three years and eight months in stay prison.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I'm going to turn the.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Microphone over to Sheriff Luna to go into greater detail,
but again, I cannot commend enough the tireless work that
law enforcement has brought to this task.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
To try and keep us safe and still ensure.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
That people who want to legitimately protest get that opportunity.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Sheriff Luna, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand from
KFI Am six forty.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Thank you, d A.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
Hawkman, Thank you all for covering this story. I do
want to start off not only by thanking all of
you for being here, but I do want to take
a just a quick second to thank the district Attorney.

Speaker 7 (12:26):
The day after the protests started, he called me. He
told me he was assigning.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
A special prosecutor to deal with violence against our deputy
sheriffs or any other related police officers. And I really
appreciate that because, just for a quick second, if you
could think of the mindset of our employees having to
leave their families and coming to work, to know that
they're going to be in the middle of some of

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that isolated chaos that you've seen, it is good to
know that when they are being violently at act, whether
it's with rocks, bottles, molotov cocktails, pyal technics, pepper spray,
I could go on and on that they know that
the individuals that we're gonna focus on them, and we
have a district attorney who's gonna bring forward charges. And

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just really quick I received the same call from the
US attorney here in Los Angeles, and I think all
of you saw something earlier today where he is doing
the same thing with federal charges.

Speaker 7 (13:30):
So I just say that.

Speaker 6 (13:33):
And mister Hackman said it perfectly and articulated it very well.
There's a big distinction between individuals that protest and demonstrate
to violent, destructive basically anarchists, I mean, just creating that chaos.

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What we're talking about are the individuals who don't care
about the issue at hand, because we will facilitate all
peaceful First Amendment activity. But when you have people that
are out here to commit acts of violence against our
deputy sheriffs or police officers or just they're destroying our city,

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we're gonna stop it.

Speaker 7 (14:17):
You see it. It's frustrating.

Speaker 6 (14:20):
And as the days go have gone on, arrest are
climbing and now the prosecutions are taking place. And just
this warning, because if you didn't get caught the last
couple of nights, there's a lot of evidence out there,
and you're probably gonna get detectives or others knocking on
your door and arresting you and bringing you in for

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either committing all these acts that we've talked about. So
just a little bit on some of the cases. On Saturday,
during civil arrest in Paaramount, a local gas station was
burglarized looted on a laundri boulevard. After the unlawful assembly concluded,
Compton deputies responded to the ga station to secure the
location and take the reports of the burglaries that had occurred.

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While at the location, an individual shouted at them and
throw two full cans of beer in their direction. And
I don't think it was to say thank you, it
was for the opposite reason. The deputies ordered him to leave, However,
he refused and threw a third full can of beer
at our deputies. Based on the suspects assaultive actions, deputies

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used less lethal force, specifically a forty millimeter baton launcher,
striking the suspect. The deputies were able to immediately handcuff
the suspect without any further incident. The suspect, twenty year
old Eduadelos Servantes, a resident of Lynnwood, was arrested for
assault with the deadly weapon on a police officer. He

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was released on his own recognissance yesterday at the Compton Court. Separately,
two suspects arrested for famiony vandalism here at the Hall
of Justice. On Monday, Deputies were driving in the two
or two hundred block of Temple Street near the Hall
of Justice when they observed an act of vandalism in progress.
They witnessed a twenty year old Christopher Gonzalez Reese defacing

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the south wall of the Hall of Justice building. Not
with a spray can. He was literally standing there with
a paint roller, a very long stick and writing graffiti
over an area measuring about eighteen feet by twelve The
suspect was using beage paint and the content of the

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graffiti included profanity directed at a federal agency. The same
suspect was previously identified as the same individual who was
observed committing a similar act of vandalism on the south
wall of a building located in the five hundred block
of North Broadway. In both occurrences, a second suspect, identified
as as forty year old Joselyn Johnson, appeared to act

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as a lookout and was observed video recording the acts
of vandalism. Following the second incident, deputies contacted both suspects
and took them into custody of search. A search of
their vehicle led to the discovery of large buckets of
paint and a ten foot extension poll believed to have
been used in the commission of these crimes that were described.

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Both suspects were arrested and booked on felony vandalism charges.

Speaker 7 (17:25):
And just as I wrap up.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
And before I turn it over to my partner, Chief
Jim McDonald, I just want to reiterate we will facilitate
the peaceful protest and thank god, ninety nine percent of
them are taking place in this one square mile area
here in the city of Los Angeles. And then when
you saw in Paramount and Compton on Saturday, we are

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going to do everything we can to protect our employees
when they're being attacked. So if you come to demonstrate,
that's great. If you come to throw things at us,
attack our employees, you're going to get arrested, maybe not
that day, but later, and.

Speaker 7 (18:06):
You're going to get prosecuted.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
And not only may you serve significant time in jail,
but there's going to be fines behind that.

Speaker 7 (18:14):
So with that, I'm going.

Speaker 6 (18:15):
To turn it over to Chief McDonald and I'll be
available for questions after he has completed his portion.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 8 (18:30):
Thank you, Sheriff Lona, and thank you all. Good afternoon,
and again you'll hear some common themes here. Certainly, I
want to start by expressing my sincere gratitude to all
of our officers and deputies on the lines for their
professionalism and dedication. They've been asked to look work long
hours and dangerous and unpredictable conditions, and I'm grateful and
proud of their resilience. I also want to thank our

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dedicated partners from local, state, and federal agencies for ongoing
partnership and on wavering support during these challenging times. Los
Angeles Police Department recognizers and supports the right to peaceful protest,
but when individuals choose to weaponize that right, I want
excuse me. By assaulting peace officers, endangering lives, or committing

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crimes under the cover of a crowd, that is no
longer a protest. That is a crime, and that won't
be tolerated. Three individuals have been charged with felony assault
on our officers, including the use of fireworks and.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Motorcycles to cause harm.

Speaker 8 (19:26):
These were deliberate attacks, acts of that injured officers who
are simply doing their job out there to protect the public.
Let's not forget our officers face uncertain and officered often
dangerous situations every day, and their risk of their lives
has been even greater.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
Over these last few days.

Speaker 8 (19:45):
I've watched molotov cocktails and fireworks shot mortars being launched
out of tubes at our officers. They're encountering routinely, m
type fireworks and commercial grade fireworks, which in the state
of California are considered explosives and they can ki. Our
officers should never have to face targeted violence while standing
on a line to protect others. I want to thank

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the district attorney for pursuing felony charges in these cases.
It sends a strong and important message if you assault
a peace officer in this city or this county, you
will be held accountable. Additionally, I'm also pleased that there
are charges related to looting and vandalism, crimes that took
advantage of the unrest to target businesses and city property.
In one case, a retail store was burglarized and tens

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of thousands of dollars in merchandise were stolen, and another
graffiti was braid onto historic public building while an accomplished
stood watch. These crimes don't advance any cause or further
any message.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
What they do is harm to.

Speaker 8 (20:44):
Our communities, our small businesses, and our civic institutions. The
LAPD will continue to investigate all incidents thoroughly and work
with our partners in the DA's office to bring every
offender to justice. We remain committed to protecting First Amendment rights,
restoring peace, and holding criminals accountable. I want to thank
our officers, our partners in this community for their resilience

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and cooperation throughout this event.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
And before we start with questions, I also want to
thank the two members of my office that have worked
around the clock to bring these charges. Alva Lynn, who's
our head Deputy of our Charge Evaluation Division, and Deputy
District Attorney Michael Blank of our crimes against Police Officer's Division.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Now we'll take questions.

Speaker 8 (21:35):
Yes, So earlier today, Major General Sherman said that National.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Guard members have detained some people they've already done this
and an ammiliate.

Speaker 9 (21:43):
Turn them over to law enforcement.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Can you share a little bit about which law enforcement
been went to.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
How many contained.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
We're still working out a lot of the communication and
coordination with the army who is in charge of the
Marines as well. So I don't think whether Chief McDonald
and I have heard specifically about that. I'm almost positive,
but there is some guessing in this that when he's
talking about law enforcement, he's talking about federal law enforcement,

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because one of their missions, from what has been described
to us, is other than protecting federal facilities, they are
protecting federal employees or federal law enforcement. So they're going
to be going out together from our limited understanding thus far,
and I think that's exactly what he's talking about.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Thank you.

Speaker 9 (22:36):
I understand most of the people arrested are not facing
the serious types of felonies that you're describing. They're probably
going to be referred to the city attorney for less
serious failures, whatever those allegations would be. In recent history
in southern California, hundreds of people have been arrested on
those allegations and protests, and then the city has made

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the decision not to cross secute any of them, and
I'm curious if you're going to take a different position
or what your thoughts are about that as it relates
to the people arrested in the last few days.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
So you are correct that there are certain crimes committed,
misdemeanor crimes committed here in Los Angeles City that would
be the jurisdiction of the City Attorney's office. I have
spoken to the City Attorney, Heidifelsin Sodo. She takes these
crimes very seriously. I don't want to speak for her
ahead of time as to the types of charges she's
going to bring on these various violations.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
And you're right they can.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Even misdemeanors can span a spectrum from a failure to
disperse from violations of curfew onto even more serious violent
actions or actions involving theft. So I can tell you,
having spoken to Miss Felsine Soto, that she and her
office will be taking these violations very seriously. I don't

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think we have a precedent that was set in prior protests.
I will tell you from the District Attorney's office, which
didn't bring charges in connection with the prior protests starting
today you've heard we are bringing these.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Charges felony charges.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
We consider the actions, particularly the actions against law enforcement,
the actions against public safety, the actions defacing, as Chief
McDonald's said, historic buildings, extremely serious. In many ways, I've
been well, not in many ways, I've been a lifelong Angelina.
I've been here over sixty years, in this city, in

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this county. These people who want to go ahead and
not protest and not engage in legitimate speech, but.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Want to go ahead and commit crimes in our home,
We're going to protect our home.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
We're going to make sure if someone wants to throw
cinder blocks at our police officers, we're going to protect
our police officers and hold those people accountable. They want
to go ahead and write disgusting words all over our
public buildings, of our public buildings, we're going to go.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
After them as well.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
They want to steal from our stores, We're going to
hold them accountable for their actions. And that's the way
I view it, That's the way the District Attorney's office
views it. If you want to come into our county,
into our home, and commit crimes, you will be arrested, prosecuted,
and punished.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Two questions.

Speaker 10 (25:21):
If I May the first one being all three of
you have spoken in some regard about outside agitators or anarchists.
I've heard obviously you also respect the rights of peaceful protesters.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
I'm wondering if.

Speaker 11 (25:35):
You can provide any evidence of maybe organization from anarchists,
who have you been able to trace a certain group
that's behind it.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
Obviously you've highlighted five cases.

Speaker 11 (25:47):
Of men and women doing destruction, but is there any
other evidence about anarchists or people that are coming in
here with organized intentions?

Speaker 6 (25:57):
Good I'm going to I'm limited in what I can
respond to that only because there's ongoing cases, but I
can assure you that all of us up here are
looking to see if there is a conspiracy of some
kind organization.

Speaker 7 (26:18):
There is some evidence we've.

Speaker 6 (26:19):
Seen that I don't want to share at this time,
and it's not because I don't want to talk to
you about it. It's because we're focused on arresting those
individuals involved and bringing the best cases forward. Some of
them may be to the district attorney, but highly likely
to the US Attorney, where we're working with some of
our federal partners to look at that angle of exactly
what you're asking for I've been a.

Speaker 12 (26:42):
Quick follow over to the chief, and this is coming
from somebody who's been here for several days and have
watched out your law enforcement officers have conducting themselves and
have used less lethal rounds from my perspective, only after
being agitated by other people throwing things. However, there is
a video now circulating online of less lethal methods being

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used on a woman not quite a protester, standing very
close to officers being fired at with less lethal methods.
Also a caveat that we do see these police officers
give their multiple warnings, but I'm wondering if you could
comment on the use of those methods at such a
close distance as someone that did not seem to be posing.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
Much of a threat.

Speaker 8 (27:25):
Yeah, you know, I can't speak to that individual case
because I'm not aware of what the follow up was.
But each one of these we see it generates an
investigative follow up. We will look into it thoroughly, and then,
you know, look for all the video we possibly can
out there body worn video on the officers, and then
a video from the environment there and put together as
best we can what the circumstances were.

Speaker 11 (27:48):
Perhaps then you could speak to people out there who
may not understand that a warning is a warning, or
maybe officers would take that step.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
Yeah, you know, but thank you for that.

Speaker 8 (27:57):
Bottom line is, once we give a dispersal order because
things have gotten out of hand and we're trying to
restore order, and you are ordered to leave that area,
and the officers are going to clear that area, and
some of the tactics use involved less lethal munitions, and certainly,
while they're way more accurate they were in years past,

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certainly there's also times where they hit potentially hit a
target that was not the intended target. So if you're
in the environment and you're told to leave, please leave
because for your own safety and the safety of everyone
around you.

Speaker 13 (28:31):
Geez, do you know what's going out in Boil Heights?
I just saw a video when I was leaving my
office to get over here. There was a white car
and then two silver cars I think it was an
SUV and a silver truck came up caught off the
white car and two people hopped out. I mean they looked,
you know, like they were I couldn't tell they were
fends or local officers, and then they detained that driver.

(28:55):
Any idea, what's.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
Yeah, I've heard about that too. I haven't been able
to find out more about it at this time.

Speaker 8 (29:01):
I know that Hollm Beck units were dispatched to that,
So once once we free up here, we'll figure out
what was going on out there.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
More chief, just to kind of follow up on that question,
just trying to understand, does that mean that you guys
have begun use of force reviews on some of these incidents?

Speaker 5 (29:15):
Oh yeah, whenever.

Speaker 8 (29:16):
Whenever anything happens of significance, we start looking at it
right away, try and capture all the video we can, any.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
Other evidence we can right away.

Speaker 8 (29:24):
For take a couple more questions.

Speaker 9 (29:27):
There's one particular question I wanted to asked if there
was an arrest of Los Agular, at.

Speaker 7 (29:32):
Least she's an a to one of our council members.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
I was wondering if there was any information regarding that.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Arrest, if there were any charges.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
That were posted to for her and her sister.

Speaker 7 (29:42):
Antonio Aguiler.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Tried to work.

Speaker 8 (29:46):
Yeah, no, I'll have to follow up with you to
see what those if there words charges filed or not
on that one.

Speaker 12 (29:53):
Maybe if if the sheriff could just clarify what he
had said earlier to the.

Speaker 10 (29:57):
Question about the National Guard now given authorization to detain people,
how would it work then, I suppose, And it sounded
like from the previous answer you were saying they're only
really there to detain those that are causing harm to
federal officers. But I don't know how would hand off
work to local law enforcement if the National Guard was

(30:18):
to detain and say, a protester.

Speaker 6 (30:21):
If let me clarify that what's been communicated to me
thus far, and we are asking for more specific communication
from the Army, which the National Guard is falling under
them now along with the Marines, is that they've expressed
to us that they have three their mission is split

(30:42):
up into three areas, that it is to protect federal functions,
to protect federal facilities, and to protect federal personnel. They
and as far as I know, and again I'm trying,
we are all in meetings trying to increase our communication

(31:03):
and coordination with them, so we're still asking for specific clarification.
My understanding at this point is that they do not
have the powers to arrest or detain, so if they
are out in the field, they they may be there,
but they're working in conjunction with federal authorities. It could

(31:24):
be Ice Border Patrol. There's a whole host of acronym
federal agencies that they're working with, but again, not knowing
that specific incident. That's where communication and coordination is critical.

Speaker 13 (31:40):
Do you know, is there aed the Marines here? I've
been hearing since Sunday they've been on their way, and
what are we Wednesday?

Speaker 6 (31:50):
I would be guessing if I try to answer that again,
I'm just gonna leave it at this.

Speaker 7 (31:56):
We are doing everything we can.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
I know Chief McDonald and I and our staffs are
doing everything we can to improve our communication with the army,
so we would know those specific questions and they were
just activated I think, what was it Sunday? So there's
a lot going on behind the scenes. And first of all,

(32:19):
I just tell you, for i've never served in the military,
I have nothing but respect for people in the military,
whether they're soldiers in the National Guard or Marines, they
are our soldiers. So we're doing our best to put
them and ourselves and primarily our community in a position
so that we succeed together moving forward, because frankly, we're

(32:41):
all in an extremely difficult situation right now that none
of us have ever been involved in including the military
assistant textures.

Speaker 11 (32:50):
Attorney Marie or Miraz is gonna give us some remarks
in Spanish.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Okay, No, well you want to stick with the Spanish
remarks maybe?

Speaker 5 (32:58):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
We're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Welcome, we're back live here I AM six forty more
stimulating talk radio. John Cobelt Show resumes here. We are
on every day from one in till four and then
after four o'clock whatever you missed John Cobelt's show on
demand on the iHeart app. And we just brought to
you about a half hour long press conference with the
La County District Attorney Nathan Hackman, the LAPD Chief Jim McDonell,

(33:28):
the county Sheriff Robert Luna, and they explained some of
the rests that they have made and answered some questions
from the press. I think one thing that needs to
be reinforced because Karen Bash and Gavin Newsom lie a
lot and they whipped up a lot of hysteria. So far,
the National Guard has had nothing to do with suppressing

(33:49):
the protesters and responding to the criminal acts by the
protesters or the agitators. They have been guarding two federal
buildings primarily, and that's the town federal building and the
one in Westwood as well, And they are also protecting
federal employees who work at those buildings. And they're also

(34:09):
working with various other law enforcement governmental agencies that are
involved in this are involved in this entire operation. So
what newsman Bass have been lying? Whipping up hysteria, misleading people.
There may come a moment where the National Guard gets
involved and gets on the street and starts detaining people.

(34:30):
That has not happened yet. The reason we're having riots
is because rioters are rioting. And it's got nothing to
do with the National Guard and nothing to do with Trump,
nothing to do with Tom Homan. It is rioters choosing
to riot. And as I I think McDonald said this
a day or two ago, he sees a lot of

(34:52):
the same people at all these.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Public ruckuses.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Okay, they move from issue to if issue, you know,
they're they're there. It's George Floyd, it's Black Lives Matter,
it's it's global warming, it's you name it whatever whatever.
The crazy issue of the moment is many of them
are hired, Many of them are are are.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Employed to do this.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Some of them are just flat out nuts and they
belong to anarchist organizations. Antifa is a real thing, and
and and that's that's what causes the trouble. And and
they latch on to, you know, the issue of the day,
the protest of the day, and often even the peaceful
protesters are organized as well. And and they're paid for.

(35:39):
And they talked about outside antagonists, and one reporter had
a question about, you know, who are these groups. What's
your evidence of this? And they said, well, we're investigating.
Believe me, there there are outside groups involved in creating
this ruckus. It is a political situation. They're going after Trump.

(36:01):
They hate Trump. They are trying to provide an event
that's going to turn the public against the current administration.
And they latch onto hot button issues. And you know
they whether, I mean, a few years ago was all
race stuff. You notice nobody's protesting about race anymore. Nobody's
protesting about police per se anymore. Now it's about immigration.

(36:29):
A couple of years from now, they'll be back with
some other hot issue. These nonprofits get donations, they get
government grants, they use your tax money, and they always
have a nice, warm, frilly message to explain their mission.

(36:50):
If you go to the website, and the truth is
a lot of them are doing a lot of bad things.
And I'm gonna mention Shirley again because they are in
the news again today. CHURLA is the Coalition for Humane
Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles hr LA. They've been out

(37:12):
here for years. They have gone full bore, they want
to abolish ICE for years. Twenty eighteen, let's say they
have managed to get some serious funding from the Democratic legislature.
So understand, you work, you pay state taxes, the California

(37:34):
Assembly and state Senate, and Governor Newsom then take that
money and send it to the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights.
They have received. This is twenty twenty three numbers. Thirty
three million, nine hundred and sixty six thousand, five hundred
and seventy two dollars in government grants. That's on its

(37:57):
IRS forum nine to ninety. They also got another ten
million dollars plus from gifts, grants, and other contributions for
a total of forty four million dollars. I have in
front of me the accounting sheet. I have the readout

(38:18):
of the money they've gotten from various organizations, including the
state government. And here is here is one donation for
thirty three million dollars donation. It's the tax money. It's
our tax money that's rooted to these organizations, and they

(38:41):
use it primarily to agitate. They want ICE abolished. They
want ICE abolished, and they want it defunded. And they
themselves want to be funded with our tax money. So
no tax money for ICE, but tax money for CHURLA.
They're subversive organizations and they finance violence. And Josh Hawley,

(39:08):
the Republican senator from Missouri, he's getting involved in this
and he's launched a federal investigation into TURLA. He says
they might be financially supporting the violent protests. He says
it's coordinated. He's chairman of the Judiciary Submittee, Subcommittee on
Crime and Terrorism. He goes, who is funding the LA riots?

(39:31):
This violence isn't spontaneous. I'm launching an investigation to find out.
And the letter was addressed to CURLA executive director and Jelicasalis,
and it says that credible reporting has indicated that the
organization has provided logistical support and financial resources to individuals
engaged in these disruptive actions. We had carl Demaia on

(39:53):
the Republican assemblymen who discovered the thirty four million dollars
of your tax money that's been given to CURLA that
they may have used to finance some of the violence
you've seen over the weekend. The letter is what he
writes in the letter, bank Rolling civil unrest is not
protected speech. It is aiding in a betting criminal conduct.

(40:14):
You must cease and desist any further involvement in the
organization funding a promotion of these unlawful activities. And the
letter requested Charlotte provide internal communications relating to any protest
or funding financial documents related to the same, and blah
blah blah, blah blah. Irs Records obtained by Fox News

(40:35):
show that Churla has received thirty four million dollars in
government grants, including three from Joe Biden's administration for seven
hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Trump has cut the federal funding,
but CURLA still gets California state grants and La City grants,
thank some of the money to support lawyers fighting deportations.

(40:57):
Churla is responsible for creating the so called Rapid Response Network,
the hotline Immigrants used to report ice raids. The network
then sends text alerts so that the illegals have.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
A chance to hide.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
By the way, Bass has been publicizing the rapid response network,
She's in on this too. She knows exactly what Turla
is doing, and she supports Turla, and the city helps
fund Curla. But Turla is not the only one. New
York Post has a story today lefty nonprofits are openly

(41:39):
fueling La riots. They're handing out f ICE protective gears.
Yes the F word, that's the name of the personal
protective equipment. Remember PPEs from the COVID days. Well, According
to the New York Post, left wing nonprofit groups are

(42:00):
openly helping to fuel the riots by handing out f
ICE packs. They include goggles, face masks, gloves, and a
phone number for jail support, distributed by a nonprofit called
Operation Healthy Hearts. You see, they always have happy names.

(42:22):
Operation Healthy Hearts generally organized as community service like food
drives for people on skid row, but they have created
the f ice ppe pack, and they have a long
history of pumping out left wing rhetoric on social media,
and they've been denouncing law enforcement since the protests started.
Another group that's advertising the f ICE kits Mutual Aida

(42:46):
Los Angeles Network m ALA and Meylon says it's a
central information network for aid groups and nonprofits. Mayland was
founded during the COVID nineteen pandemic, but as a history
of supporting partisan left wing causes on social media, including
anti Israel protests. Oh, that was another big round of protests.

(43:10):
And it's the same people. They did George Floyd, they
did f the police, they do Palestine, they do climate change,
they do they do the anti ICE protests, same organizations,
same people. Many of them blew up in the last
five to seven years. And of course what they're doing

(43:34):
is protesting that these violent criminals are finally getting arrested
and will be deported by the federal government. Like the
murderer I told you about from Mexico, Like the child
molester from Cambodia, another child molester from Laos Lutas with
a child. These are all convictions. Another illegal alien from Mexico,

(43:54):
drug trafficking. They've all been arrested by ICE. They're all
being deport They've all been convicted in the past. This
is what CHERLA is protecting. So when they sent out
texts on their rapid response network, which Karen Bass has
been advertising for. It's so these guys can get away

(44:15):
so that ice doesn't catch them. This is a whole
network of evil that has caused a lot of crime
and disruption here in Los Angeles. So of course Karen
Bass and Gavin Newsom are protecting them and telling lies
about the National Guard. The National Guard has simply protected

(44:35):
the two major federal buildings they were assigned to. They're
protecting federal employees. They have not been sent to the
streets to arrest any protesters or any illegal aliens.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Yet you're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI
A sixty.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Karen Bass is involved in money laundering that helps finance
the groups who then turn the money over to the protesters.
I'll explain to you how the money laundering operation works,
but first listen to Karen Bass denying that there are

(45:13):
outside agitators who are committing the violence during these riots.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 14 (45:20):
I mean, my guess is that you have social media
phenomena that calls for parties that calls for street takeovers,
and I think it's in the same vein. What I
do believe very strongly is that The groups that are
vandalizing downtown are not a part of the immigrant rights movement.

(45:40):
Are not concerned about immigrants, are concerned about wrecking havoc
and are breaking immigrant rights. Organizations that have been institutions,
well established, well respected institutions in our city for decades,
are used to doing protests. They are very well organized
and coordinated, and they don't tolerate the violence. Yesterday's demonstration

(46:01):
that was put on by labor, especially in solidarity with
David Werta, they had a system there where they wouldn't
let people in a certain area stuff.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
They had a mask stopped and David Wirked as the
union leader that got arrested because he was blocking and
this is on video. He was blocking ICE agents. That's
a federal crime. It is too bad on him, but
Bass covers for him. I told you, Charla, it got

(46:34):
thirty four million dollars of our state tax. Buddy, Charla
got seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars from the Biden administration.
They are funding outside agitators. They themselves are outside agitators.
The groups I told you that are distributing the f
ICE packages, these are the personal protective Equipment packages. Goggles,

(46:57):
face masks. So when these people do things like throw
rocks and concreted cops and the cops hit him with
tear gas or fire rubber bullets at them, they have
goggles and face masks to keep them from either inhaling
too much tear gas or getting a rubber bullet in
the eye. The LA Poverty Department is one of them.

(47:20):
I mentioned the Mutual Aid Society. Mutual Aid Social Therapy
is the name of the group. And then Susan Shelley
has a story in the Orange County Register. And here's
how it works. Follow this with me. Karen Bass gets
behested payments. You know what to behested payment is when

(47:43):
you ask your donors, would you put a lot of
your money into this nonprofit that I've created, and then
I'll decide where that nonprofit money goes. Eric Arcetti mastered this.
He would raise millions of dollars. They call it dark money.
So Bass calls you up. You're a regular donor. Generally

(48:05):
you have business and contracts before the city. For example,
Gavin Newsom does this and his wife does this. To
do this, Newsom and Gavin and Jennifer Newsom, they shake
down PG and e PG and has to make behested
payments to whatever whack ball charities Gavin and Jennifer have

(48:25):
going at the time, and those are usually run by
friends and relatives, and everybody takes home a lot of money.
Well Bass in this case. In January, she shook down
the Pledgling Foundation eight hundred thousand dollars. The name of
the donor is secret. They split up the eight hundred

(48:49):
thousand dollars into seventy separate contributions and transfer the money
to the California Community Foundation. On its website it says
Emma is one of its areas of focus. They established
the Immigrants Are La Coalition.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
See you got this.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Bass goes to a donor says, give me eight hundred
thousand dollars. She then chops it up into seventy separate
contributions so it's hard to follow. Sends the seventy contributions
to the Pledgeling Foundation. They in turn give it to
the California Community Foundation and they subsidize immigration activity. They

(49:40):
establish another group, Immigrants Are La Coalition, who also got
one hundred and sixty million dollars from the Biden administration.
You see how this works. So that's the funding for
the riots. Sometimes it's private don't that are indebted to Bass.

(50:02):
Sometimes it's tax money, like the thirty four million that
came from the California Legislature and Newsom. Bass got a
four hundred and twenty five thousand donation from the California
Community Foundation and gave it to Community Partners. Its website
features a photo of protesters holding signs that read immigration

(50:23):
is an LGBT issue. It's and Susan Shelley suggests that
the IRS Criminal Division should take an interest in the
LA riots and these organizations that are funding the riots
and where the money comes from. It's a massive money
laugering operation. Newsom and his wife are in on it.

(50:44):
Bass is in on it. The Biden administration was in
on it. When we come back, Michael Munks from KFI News,
and he's going to tell us this was asked about
in the press conference with the police chief and the
Sheriff's the sheriff and Nathan Hockman. Some incident in Boyle Heights.

(51:09):
There was a vehicle collision. There were a couple of
Homeland Security officers involved, something like that. We'll find out
the details of Michael Deborah Mark live in the KFI
twenty for our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to The
John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear the show
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(51:30):
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