March 12, 2025 • 32 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (03/12) - San Jose Mayor Matt Mahan comes on the show to talk about a new proposal that would allow for the arrest of homeless people if they refuse housing in San Jose. More on Mayor Matt Mahan's proposal. The EPA has started the process of rescinding all of the vehicle fuel efficiency standards the Biden administration insisted on. Mahmoud Khalil was arrested by ICE for participating in anti-Israel protests at Columbia University.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am six forty.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome, It's good that you're here.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We got a lot to cover it today, and I
want to start because I'm not gonna have a whole
lot of time with him. The mayor of San Jose,
Matt Mayhon. We've had him on the past because he
came out. He was one of the first most prominent
Democrats to come out against proposition to go him out
in favor of Prop thirty six, which, if you remember November,
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made the theft a real crime again in public drug
use and made fentinel crimes possible because fentinyl. There weren't
too many ways to punish people involved in the fentinel trade.
So Prop thirty six passed overwhelmingly because most Democrats supported
it as well. And Matt Mayhon is now taking on
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another issue that has been controlled by progressive thought for
a long time, and it's the want and homelessness in
some of the cities. And what he is now proposing
is that a homeless person gets three offers of shelter
and after that you could be arrested, even put into jail.
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Now how this would work. That's why we have mine.
The mayor of San Jose, Matt Mahon. Welcome, How are you.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Hey, John? Doing well? Thanks for having me back. Good?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, good to have you on.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
So explain how your proposal would work, these three offers
and then possible arrest.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
What would be the protocol for.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
This, Yeah, well, it's as you described it. We've I'm
calling it responsibility to shelter, the basic idea being when
we use taxpayer money to invest in shelter. And in
San Jose, we're mostly building what we call interim housing.
We're converting old dilapidated motels, doing tiny homes and prefabricated
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modular units, so we're mostly building individual rooms. I'm not
talking about a big old barracks with hundreds of people
packed into it with all kinds of challenges. I'm talking
about pretty dignified stuff. We were making a commitment. We're
making a promise to the community. We're saying we're going
to take your hard earned tax dollars invest them in
helping our most vulnerable neighbors. And I think it's only right,
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and I think folks expect that those individuals are going
to come indoors and take advantage of it. And so
the theory is we need to do repeated outreach. I
know there are folks out there who've had bad experiences
in shelter, who are distrusting. It takes some time, so
I'm all for giving people multiple chances. We pay to
have outreach workers, a few dozen of them out there
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on the streets, building relationships and offering shelter. But eventually,
I've proposed, after three refusals in an eighteen month period,
if somebody's saying, yeah, I know you just built that
new interim housing or shelter placement for me, but I'd
rather just stay camped right down the block here of
the neighborhood, I think that's unacceptable. I think most Californias
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believe it's unacceptable because they see the impacts every day,
the fires, the trash, the noise, even just I mean
just living out there has an impact on the broader community,
and so there has to be accountability. Now, what I'm
proposing is, at that point, the city would have the
discretion police officer could arrest the person for trespassing, and
our city attorney could press charges with the goal really
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of getting them into our drug court. Getting them into
a behavioral health court, because my view is if we've
built a shelter, done the repeated outreach, or offering all
these services we're repeatedly asking and you say no thanks,
I'd rather just stay here, living by the train tracks
or wherever you might be. At that point is the city.
We're out of tools. I mean, we have to get
this person over the county, which is the provider of
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health and human services, whether not somebody actually stays in
jail or they get into a drug court and a
judge says I'm going to mandate you into this treatment program.
That's great. I want people to get the help that
they need. But there has to be some accountability for
coming indoors.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
That's always been where the conversation stopped with a lot
of progressive politicians when you ask them, well, what if
the guy keeps saying no, then what are you going
to do?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
We all know about it.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
What's that There hasn't been an answer, right, I mean
that should be, but folks have not wanted to answer
that question.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
The answer is that you have to force them, you
have to coerce them in some way. And the way
you just laid.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Out has to be a consequence.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
And so then let a judge take care of what
the next step beyond that.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
That's right. We just built a new site here with
over two hundred units. It's on Brandham Lane, kind of
in the center of the city. Beautiful new development, but
basically brand new apartments. And mean you go into the
apartment and it's individual room in sweet bathroom, even a
little kitchen at I mean, these these are really nice
theser for folks who are really ready to start to
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turn their lives around, and it's meant to be a
place where you can stabilize for six months, a year,
eighteen months, get some job training, and hopefully graduate out
to your own long term apartment. We went out to
the neighborhood and did weeks of outreach and we had
some very grateful folks, a number of them who said yes,
I would love thank you for giving me this shot
to turn my life around, and willingly accept it. But
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one in three people who we offered that new housing
to said no. And I think in those cases we've
got to create consequences, or have to be incentives if
they know there's a consequence. Hopefully that number goes down,
but there will still likely be I don't know if
it's five, ten, fifteen percent who because of an addiction
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that's untreated, an untreated mental health issue of some kind,
may not be ready and willing to accept that housing,
in which case, again we really have to get them
into the CAREFI county and thus far counties, often many
counties have been able to kind of say, well, hey,
that's the city's problem, you guys figure it out, and
that's unacceptable. We can't leave people out there to die
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of drug overdoses and exposure to the elements and all
of that.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I mean, that's what happened is happening here in Los Angeles.
I mean, we have two three thousand people die every
year in the streets. There's five to seven overdoses every
day MacArthur Park. We just found out yesterday. So it's
been very frustrating to hear a lot of sanctimonious talk
from politicians about compassion for the homeless when the current process,
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at least here in LA leads to their overdose and
often their deaths. And so that's where most normal people
are going, well, what is this compassion You're talking about
the dying of an overdose in the street doesn't seem
like it's a warm, friendly way to treat them. How
much did all this shelter cost? Because once again, here
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in LA, and I'm trying to contrast because I really
like what you're doing on a number of issues, and
here in La it's costing the city a million dollars
per apartment, and it takes years to build, and hardly
anybody's been able to move in for obvious reasons. What
was the cost of building these temporary shelter spaces?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, yeah, well most of the it's a great question.
And I, as we may have discussed last time I
was on your program, when I ran for mayor a
couple of years ago, I ran explicitly against the idea
that we could solve this problem at a million dollars
a door. It just doesn't scale. We can't raise taxes
enough to meet the need at a million dollars a door.
So that's that's really a non starter. If you actually
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want to offer a safe, dignified alternative to the streets
for everybody who's out there, we've really prioritized prefabricated modular units.
The unit itself is pretty low cost that you can
get modular units that are quite nice that even with
an n suite bathroom that come off an assembly line
for twenty twenty five, thirty thousand kind of depends on
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how many, how nice it is, how big it is.
The real cost is in finding the land, preparing the site,
grading it, installing the utilities so you can flush a
toilet or turn on a light, having some common space
so you can do food service, or have counseling root
rooms for counseling and case management, maybe access to the internet.
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It starts to add up. And so what we've found
is you're on the order if you want to give
people their own room, you're on the order of about
at the low end, eighty thousand to well over one
hundred thousand dollars a person. Now that's a ninety percent
reduction off of the cost of building brand new apartments.
That's pretty good. Yeah, but you know it should be
one size fits all. I'm okay with some congregated shelter
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because we have to be pragmatic.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, well, so, I know. Only I've got you for
a couple more minutes. I want to ask you about
the other issue you were in the news for this week.
You have a new proposal, and this is for the
top city officials, council members, heads of departments in San
Jose that if they don't hit milestones, I guess the
solving problems, they're not going to get pay raises.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Tell us about this, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Well, pay for performance. It's actually how most of our
jobs work. I've was in the private sector for years,
built a couple of tech startups, and most things in
the world are are performance based and merit based. And
my argument is that we as elected officials, and I'm
very much including myself with this, the mayor, the city
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council members, and our most senior administrators, who, let's face it,
are often making two, three, even four hundred thousand dollars
a year within what will be essentially a lifetime pension
at a very high rate. We ought to, at a
minimum every year debt goals, measure performance against those goals,
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and report out publicly on how we did. And I
believe that our pay raises anything above our base salary
and okay, with minimal you know, a cola, because you know,
we've got to keep pace with the market and attract
new people when roles open up, so fine, but any
pay raise beyond that shouldn't be automatic or assumed or
in a titlement. It should be because you've set aggressive goals,
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you've measured your performance, and you've shown the public that
you've actually moved the needle, moving people off the streets,
bringing down the crime rates, speeding up, permitting all these
things we say we want but so often don't actually
seem to improve.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Are you getting a lot of resistance from a fellow
Democrats city council members on this pay race thing and
also on your homeless proposal about after you know, three shots,
they can't get arrested and be jailed, be forced into treatment.
What kind of Because all these ideas have been just
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nobody was allowed to speak of them out loud for
the last ten years.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm not the most popular guy in the building.
I mean, you know, you know, it's interesting. There's quite
a contrast with the insiders, with people who are in government.
Think about it every day. I have been here a
long time, have a stake in the current system. There's
a lot of resistance and a lot of haming and
hawing about the educ and what about this and unintended
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you know, there's just there's a lot of kind of pushback,
as you say. When I go talk to the community, though,
it's nine out of ten people say that makes sense
to me. So I see a real contrast, and I
think the community is behind me.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Well, you know, we deal with a tremendous amount of
homelessness and crime in LA and I live on the
west side of LA.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I'm not in Kansas, all right.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I'm in a deep blue section of Los Angeles, and
everybody that I talk to is disgusted by the homeless
and crime policies. And you know, yet the progressive government
here is utterly resistant to doing anything that most of
the people who vote for them want.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah. Yeah, well, we've gotten very focused on process, at
least I think people in government and certainly the Democratic Party.
I think there's a lot of focus on process. There's
a lot of very nice sounding principles and a lot
of virtue signaling. There's less focus and accountability on the
actual outcomes, on what it really means in practice, what's
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actually happening, what are people experiencing in their daily lives.
That's why I was attracted to local government, because you
can actually affect what happens when somebody steps out of
their front door every day, the roads they drive down,
the parks, their kids playing. You know, how safe their
community is. It has a really it really matters to people.
But we have to be accountable for the outcomes, not
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the words that we use.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Matt.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Good talking with you again, Santa Se Mayor, Matt Mayhead.
We'll talk again.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Thank you, look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Thank you. John.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
All right, this is how people should run cities. We'll continue.
We have Michael Monks not wearing leopard. I take requests.
If you wanted that, I would have done it. Filling
in the Denra Bark chair there make a Micael live
in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
We're on from one until four every day, and then
after four o'clock it's to John Cobelt Show podcast, and
you listen to what you missed, and if you're just
joining us, you missed. A reasonable person, a rare reasonable person.
Matt Mayhan is his name. He's the mayor of San Diego.
He's a Democrat mayor of San Jose, excuse me, and
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he's a reasonable person. He's not one of these progressive
whack jobs that has infested Los Angeles with all kinds
of destructive policies.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And it just proves that if.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
You change the way you vote, and you don't have
to vote even for a right wing guy, but you
vote for somebody who's normal, he's going to do normal things.
He would do things that you would do if you
were the mayor. We had him on last year because
he was one of the first prominent Democrats to say
Prop thirty six is a good idea. Yeah, theft should
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be a crime again. Public drug use is a crime.
Fentanel crime, all right, nothing controversial about that. That was
normal life. For most of our life. That was normal life.
And the thing about this progressive infection that has ruined
so much of southern California is it scrambled people's minds
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where they thought normal life was right wing conservative something
to be ashamed of. It's like, no, it was normal life.
It's like growing up. I'm sure you grew up in
a town where people did not urinate and defecate and
vomit and use drugs on your Little League field, Right,
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you played Little League? Did you ever find homeless people
living intents? Watching television? Selling drugs. Defecating happened to my
son's little league field here in LA. They were camped
out in right field. They plugged into an electrical supply
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that they used to light the to light the baseball stadium,
and and it happened in other places.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Not normal.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
It's not a political stance, it's not a liberal conservative issue.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It's normal life.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
So Matt says, his new policy is going to be
he's got to get approval for this. They're going to
offer shelter three times, and then after that you uh are,
you can be you can be arrested and maybe put
in jail, maybe sent to a drug court or some
other kind of court that handles mental illness, and then
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a judge will decide where you're going. And now the
homeless guy's not going to die in the street, and
now you're not going to have a crazy person or
a drug addict living on your sidewalk or on your
kids ball field, and you can go back to normal life.
And you notice what I asked him, does he run
into resistance from other Democrats in the city government. Well, yeah,
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of course, of course, because it's crazy people and normal
people must defeat crazy people. That is the issue not
Republican Democrat, liberal, conservative, right wing, left wing, none of
that stuff. It's normal people versus the insane. And too
many people in government now, both in elected office and
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running bureaucracies, and employees as well, and people in the
media are just insane. They have some kind of derangement
syndrome of one sort or another. And this homeless arrangement
syndrome is you're going to have thousands of people living
in the street, soiling themselves, acting crazy, menacing people, and
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it's going to come to an end in San Jose
if Mayheon gets his way. And then the third thing
is for city officials, council members, department heads, they don't
get an automatic raise unless they can prove through some
sort of metric that there's been actual progress. That's his quote,
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actual progress based on justifiable, based on measurable documented performance.
So you prove that you and your department are achieving
the goals that's been set out, then you get your raise.
And if you don't, no raise, Jane, anybody you ever
work under that system at your company where you had
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to prove that you have accomplished your goals, exceeded your
goals before you get the bump. So that's three for
three from Matt Mayhem Prop thirty six. Given homeless people
three shots or they can get arrested, and then you're
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going to link raises to the performance of the city
officials to see what they accomplish. Oh and by the ways,
you noticed that homeless thing. While Garcetti and Karen Bass
are building apartments that take ten years to build for
a million dollars, he's gonna They're gonna get prefabricated homes
in Santase for twenty five to thirty and then you
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when you include all the you know you have to
you have to pave the lot and get electricity and
water hooked up. Then the price may go up to
eighty thousand dollars. But man, that's way way less than
a million, and it's way easier to do. So, Matt Mayheon,
what politicians ought to be like normal.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 3 (18:43):
Follow us at John Cobot Radio and social media. Coming
up in the next segment, we are going to talk
about that Palestinian protester, activist Mahmoud Collie, who is sitting
in an ice detention center in Louisiana. He was the
one who was riling up protesters at Columbia University last
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spring in a full support of the bloodthirsty Hamas terrorist
group member. Parts of the university shut down. Jewish kids
were blocked and harassed, they couldn't attend class, created a
lot of bayhem, and the idiots at Columbia University stood
by and allowed it all to happen. Well, it's not
going to happen anymore because at Columbia Trump pulled just
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in the last week four hundred million dollars worth of
federal aid, so they lost a huge amount of money.
And he said, any university that allows these kinds of
demonstrations and this kind of treatment of Jewish students, that's it.
You're losing all your funding, all your fed funding. Well, Khalil,
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it was announced that he was going to be deported
and then a judg intervened at least temporarily. He's in
Louisiana right now, and we Tom Holman says he's a
national security threat. We are going to cover all that
some of that in the next segment that Royal Oaks
is gonna come on just after Michael's two o'clock news
to talk about the legal details on whether whether he's
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got a green card? Can can he kick a guy
who has a green card out for what Khalil allegedly
has been doing? All right, So that's that's all ahead.
Here's another great thing that the Trump administration is doing,
not just kicking out terris who support the vicious genocide, but.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
The EPA.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Under Lee Zelden started the process today of rescinding all
the vehicle fuel efficiency standards that the Biden administration had
had insisted on because they said these field standards were
so high they were going to be forcing Americans into
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electric cars whether we want to or not. And I
got nothing against electric cars. If you want to do that,
I don't want to be forced into it. For obvious reasons.
They're expensive, it's not easy to find charging stations when
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you're on the road. There's a lot of people who
can't charge from their homes. If you live in an apartment,
many of the charging stations.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Don't even work. I don't want to deal with it.
I don't think the technology is ready for.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Modern life, or my version of modern life doesn't fit,
and for most people it doesn't fit. So we should
have the choice to drive the car we need and
not be forced like government regulation. I mean, they were
looking at within seven years. They wanted a fifty percent
reduction in the amount of greenhouse gas emissions for SUVs
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and a forty four percent reduction for smaller vehicles, and
it was going to be for trucks and tractors. And
the Trump administration announced that they are reconsidering a trillion
dollars worth of regulatory costs and it it it that's
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going to open up a lot of money for companies
to develop and innovate their products without the government forcing
them into manufacturing x amount of electric cars that nobody wants.
Do you know how many electric cars are unsold? Dealer
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lots were filling up with electric cars everywhere. Hertz almost
went bankrupt buying a big electric car fleet. You ever
go to travelosity when when you're planning a trip, you
gotta be really careful, because they pushed all the electric
cars as the choices at the top of the list,
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and and Herts was overwhelmingly electric. And we're looking at this,
it's like, yeah, I'm gonna go on a driving trip.
I'm gonna go a driving trip, especially you know, you
go through the rocky mountains, you're gonna get an electric
car and you're gonna end up dying on the side
of the road, eating by a bear after you run
out of juice. You know, runs out of juice if
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it's too cold, runs out of juice if you're driving
uphill through a lot of elevation, and they don't have
an electrical grid to handle it. Anyway, it was just
total nonsense. Leezelden Uh, the EPA chief, wrote a piece
in the Wall Street Journal today saying that yesterday was
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the most consequential day of deregulation in American history. We're
taking thirty one actions, thirty one executive orders, massive overhaul,
and we're going to drive a dagger through the heart
of climate change regulation, roll back trillions of dollars in
regulatory costs, in hidden taxes. The costs eventually for buying
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a car will be cheaper. It'll become more affordable. This
is how you drive down prices. Most people have no
idea about the excessive regulations in government at all levels
and how that drives up the price of everything. Why
do you think we pay two dollars a gallon more
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than many other states for gas. Why do you think
our electricity costs are one hundred percent higher than most
other states. It's the California government and its regulations and Biden,
because there were a lot of California progressives in the
Biden White House, and they were pushing this on the
rest of the country. And now Trump is blocking it.
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And I hope what they do is they rig these
to block some of California's stupid ideas. I mean, I
have seen so many political revolts over gas prices except
here in California, which has the worst gas prices that
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any state has ever had in the history of America.
It's two bucks more than everywhere else, or not two
bucks more than most other places. And it's like, why
do people put up with this because all the regulation
and all the taxes and all none of it had
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had any effect on the climate.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
They've tried it twenty years. Twenty years.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
You let them get away with abusing you. I feel
like everybody in the state of Stockholm syndrome. They've like
developed a romantic relationship with their captors, their oppressors. Really,
I honestly think a lot of people in the state
are midt Leo. I just don't know of another species
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anywhere in the world where they would willingly allow the
government to jack out the price of gas an extra
two bucks just for the heck of it, and double
the electricity costs and then claim they're out for the
working class.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
The working class are the ones that get crushed.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
The wealthy tech millionaires don't care what the price of
gas is or the price of electricity. It's it's all
the regular people again, the normal people. You're getting crushed.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So it's good news there.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
We come back, we'll start explaining what's going on with this.
This wanna be terrorist that got a green card was
going to Columbia and was starting big protests against Israel
and against America's support of Israel. It's those college protests
from last spring. Well, uh, Mahmood Khalil one of the activists.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
They want to.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Deport him, and uh, we're gonna talk. We're gonna hear
from Tom holm when we have a clip, he says
Tom Holme. Holman says Khalil is a national security threat,
and then Royal oaks to come on right after the
two o'clock news to explain the legal details on whether
they can't actually kick a Green card holder out for
this sort of behavior.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
You're listening to John Cobels on Demand from KFI A sixty.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Coming up after two o'clock, we're going to talk with.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
The ABC News legal analyst Royal Oaks to explain the
legal details of what I'm gonna tell you about right now,
and that is the Trump administration trying to deport Mahmood Khalil.
He was a grant student at Columbia University, and he
was the troublemaker who whipped up those huge protests at
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Columbia that went on seem forever. Now he's here under
with a green card. And I remember when this whole
situation blew up last year, just looking at the participants
and the leaders, I thought, how many of these graduate students,
these college students are from a foreign country, and we've
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given them a visa or some kind of legal residency
in this case of green card, and maybe they're getting
us subsidizing their educations. And now they're taking the freedom
they have in America to block Jewish students from attending class,
to terrorize Jewish students, and also to disrupt the entire university.
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I'm one of my sons went, I don't want to
mention the exact universe city. But he went to a
real good one and a university prone to all kinds
of protests, protests that would make the news and see
him on TV. And I said to him, I go,
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what are the normal again the word normal? What are
the normal students think?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
And he says, they all hate it.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
It's a it's a pain in the neck because you
have pathways throughout the school, you know, the sidewalks blocked
off by the police or by the protesters. It takes
you an extra half hour to walk all the way
around the campus to get to your class.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It's it's it's most.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Of the most of the students thought it was just nonsense,
even if.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
They privately agreed. They're there, they're there to do business.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
A university is a place of business for the students
whose families are paying tens of thousands of dollars to
go I mean Columbia University. I mean, I bet you
that's seventy five thousand dollars a year at least, And
then you have these lunatics like Mahmood Khalil.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Turns out he was hearing a green card.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
And he's denying Jewish students, American citizens, the right to
get educated, the right to go to class. Well, the
hell is he And I figured, you know what, bit
you we got to stop leading letting these these students.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
In the country. Block him, don't let him set.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Foot off the plane, cancel their visas, deport him, send
him back, get rid of these programs that allow them in.
They just come here to cause trouble out. That's absolutely right.
So anyway, Khalil's green card was revoked by the Trump administration.
They were going to deport him, but a federal judge,
Jesse Furman, has intervened and he wants everyone to appear
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in court and from an order that Khalil be allowed
at least one phone call on Wednesday, and it's today
and then Thursday. And because apparently the ICE people weren't
letting a letting him make any calls. Here is Tom Holman.
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Trump'sporters are describing Khalil.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
This is actually direct directly contractor the United States Foreign Policy.
That's a Secretary of State. That's a charge on the
Secretary of State. We consider a national security threat. When
you're on campus, they say, and I hear your freeom
of speech, freedom of speech, freedom speech. Can you stay
in a movie theater and yell fire? Can you slander somebody? Bourbon?
(31:42):
Free speech has limitations, But when you go to college campus,
you incite protesting and locking down and taking over buildings
and damaging property and handing out leaflets for hamas who
is a terrorist organization coming to this country either on
a visa or becoming the resident. Ailing is a great
privilege where there are rules associated with that. You might
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have been able to get away with that stuff on
the last administration, but you want in this administration.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, screaming support for a terrorist organization and blocking Jewish
students from going to class. Yeah, revoke the green card
when we come back. Royal Oaks, ABC News Legal Analyst.
He's going to go through the legal path whether revoking
is possible under the rules the constitution. We've got in
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for Deborah Mark today Michael Monks live in the twenty
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Welcome, It's good that you're here.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We got a lot to cover it today, and I
want to start because I'm not gonna have a whole
lot of time with him. The mayor of San Jose,
Matt Mayhon. We've had him on the past because he
came out. He was one of the first most prominent
Democrats to come out against proposition to go him out
in favor of Prop thirty six, which, if you remember November,
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made the theft a real crime again in public drug
use and made fentinel crimes possible because fentinyl. There weren't
too many ways to punish people involved in the fentinel trade.
So Prop thirty six passed overwhelmingly because most Democrats supported
it as well. And Matt Mayhon is now taking on
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another issue that has been controlled by progressive thought for
a long time, and it's the want and homelessness in
some of the cities. And what he is now proposing
is that a homeless person gets three offers of shelter
and after that you could be arrested, even put into jail.
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Now how this would work. That's why we have mine.
The mayor of San Jose, Matt Mahon. Welcome, How are you.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Hey, John? Doing well? Thanks for having me back. Good?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, good to have you on.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
So explain how your proposal would work, these three offers
and then possible arrest.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
What would be the protocol for.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
This, Yeah, well, it's as you described it. We've I'm
calling it responsibility to shelter, the basic idea being when
we use taxpayer money to invest in shelter. And in
San Jose, we're mostly building what we call interim housing.
We're converting old dilapidated motels, doing tiny homes and prefabricated
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modular units, so we're mostly building individual rooms. I'm not
talking about a big old barracks with hundreds of people
packed into it with all kinds of challenges. I'm talking
about pretty dignified stuff. We were making a commitment. We're
making a promise to the community. We're saying we're going
to take your hard earned tax dollars invest them in
helping our most vulnerable neighbors. And I think it's only right,
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and I think folks expect that those individuals are going
to come indoors and take advantage of it. And so
the theory is we need to do repeated outreach. I
know there are folks out there who've had bad experiences
in shelter, who are distrusting. It takes some time, so
I'm all for giving people multiple chances. We pay to
have outreach workers, a few dozen of them out there
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on the streets, building relationships and offering shelter. But eventually,
I've proposed, after three refusals in an eighteen month period,
if somebody's saying, yeah, I know you just built that
new interim housing or shelter placement for me, but I'd
rather just stay camped right down the block here of
the neighborhood, I think that's unacceptable. I think most Californias
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believe it's unacceptable because they see the impacts every day,
the fires, the trash, the noise, even just I mean
just living out there has an impact on the broader community,
and so there has to be accountability. Now, what I'm
proposing is, at that point, the city would have the
discretion police officer could arrest the person for trespassing, and
our city attorney could press charges with the goal really
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of getting them into our drug court. Getting them into
a behavioral health court, because my view is if we've
built a shelter, done the repeated outreach, or offering all
these services we're repeatedly asking and you say no thanks,
I'd rather just stay here, living by the train tracks
or wherever you might be. At that point is the city.
We're out of tools. I mean, we have to get
this person over the county, which is the provider of
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health and human services, whether not somebody actually stays in
jail or they get into a drug court and a
judge says I'm going to mandate you into this treatment program.
That's great. I want people to get the help that
they need. But there has to be some accountability for
coming indoors.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
That's always been where the conversation stopped with a lot
of progressive politicians when you ask them, well, what if
the guy keeps saying no, then what are you going
to do?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
We all know about it.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
What's that There hasn't been an answer, right, I mean
that should be, but folks have not wanted to answer
that question.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
The answer is that you have to force them, you
have to coerce them in some way. And the way
you just laid.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Out has to be a consequence.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
And so then let a judge take care of what
the next step beyond that.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
That's right. We just built a new site here with
over two hundred units. It's on Brandham Lane, kind of
in the center of the city. Beautiful new development, but
basically brand new apartments. And mean you go into the
apartment and it's individual room in sweet bathroom, even a
little kitchen at I mean, these these are really nice
theser for folks who are really ready to start to
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turn their lives around, and it's meant to be a
place where you can stabilize for six months, a year,
eighteen months, get some job training, and hopefully graduate out
to your own long term apartment. We went out to
the neighborhood and did weeks of outreach and we had
some very grateful folks, a number of them who said yes,
I would love thank you for giving me this shot
to turn my life around, and willingly accept it. But
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one in three people who we offered that new housing
to said no. And I think in those cases we've
got to create consequences, or have to be incentives if
they know there's a consequence. Hopefully that number goes down,
but there will still likely be I don't know if
it's five, ten, fifteen percent who because of an addiction
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that's untreated, an untreated mental health issue of some kind,
may not be ready and willing to accept that housing,
in which case, again we really have to get them
into the CAREFI county and thus far counties, often many
counties have been able to kind of say, well, hey,
that's the city's problem, you guys figure it out, and
that's unacceptable. We can't leave people out there to die
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of drug overdoses and exposure to the elements and all
of that.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I mean, that's what happened is happening here in Los Angeles.
I mean, we have two three thousand people die every
year in the streets. There's five to seven overdoses every
day MacArthur Park. We just found out yesterday. So it's
been very frustrating to hear a lot of sanctimonious talk
from politicians about compassion for the homeless when the current process,
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at least here in LA leads to their overdose and
often their deaths. And so that's where most normal people
are going, well, what is this compassion You're talking about
the dying of an overdose in the street doesn't seem
like it's a warm, friendly way to treat them. How
much did all this shelter cost? Because once again, here
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in LA, and I'm trying to contrast because I really
like what you're doing on a number of issues, and
here in La it's costing the city a million dollars
per apartment, and it takes years to build, and hardly
anybody's been able to move in for obvious reasons. What
was the cost of building these temporary shelter spaces?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, yeah, well most of the it's a great question.
And I, as we may have discussed last time I
was on your program, when I ran for mayor a
couple of years ago, I ran explicitly against the idea
that we could solve this problem at a million dollars
a door. It just doesn't scale. We can't raise taxes
enough to meet the need at a million dollars a door.
So that's that's really a non starter. If you actually
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want to offer a safe, dignified alternative to the streets
for everybody who's out there, we've really prioritized prefabricated modular units.
The unit itself is pretty low cost that you can
get modular units that are quite nice that even with
an n suite bathroom that come off an assembly line
for twenty twenty five, thirty thousand kind of depends on
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how many, how nice it is, how big it is.
The real cost is in finding the land, preparing the site,
grading it, installing the utilities so you can flush a
toilet or turn on a light, having some common space
so you can do food service, or have counseling root
rooms for counseling and case management, maybe access to the internet.
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It starts to add up. And so what we've found
is you're on the order if you want to give
people their own room, you're on the order of about
at the low end, eighty thousand to well over one
hundred thousand dollars a person. Now that's a ninety percent
reduction off of the cost of building brand new apartments.
That's pretty good. Yeah, but you know it should be
one size fits all. I'm okay with some congregated shelter
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because we have to be pragmatic.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, well, so, I know. Only I've got you for
a couple more minutes. I want to ask you about
the other issue you were in the news for this week.
You have a new proposal, and this is for the
top city officials, council members, heads of departments in San
Jose that if they don't hit milestones, I guess the
solving problems, they're not going to get pay raises.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Tell us about this, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Well, pay for performance. It's actually how most of our
jobs work. I've was in the private sector for years,
built a couple of tech startups, and most things in
the world are are performance based and merit based. And
my argument is that we as elected officials, and I'm
very much including myself with this, the mayor, the city
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council members, and our most senior administrators, who, let's face it,
are often making two, three, even four hundred thousand dollars
a year within what will be essentially a lifetime pension
at a very high rate. We ought to, at a
minimum every year debt goals, measure performance against those goals,
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and report out publicly on how we did. And I
believe that our pay raises anything above our base salary
and okay, with minimal you know, a cola, because you know,
we've got to keep pace with the market and attract
new people when roles open up, so fine, but any
pay raise beyond that shouldn't be automatic or assumed or
in a titlement. It should be because you've set aggressive goals,
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you've measured your performance, and you've shown the public that
you've actually moved the needle, moving people off the streets,
bringing down the crime rates, speeding up, permitting all these
things we say we want but so often don't actually
seem to improve.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Are you getting a lot of resistance from a fellow
Democrats city council members on this pay race thing and
also on your homeless proposal about after you know, three shots,
they can't get arrested and be jailed, be forced into treatment.
What kind of Because all these ideas have been just
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nobody was allowed to speak of them out loud for
the last ten years.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm not the most popular guy in the building.
I mean, you know, you know, it's interesting. There's quite
a contrast with the insiders, with people who are in government.
Think about it every day. I have been here a
long time, have a stake in the current system. There's
a lot of resistance and a lot of haming and
hawing about the educ and what about this and unintended
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you know, there's just there's a lot of kind of pushback,
as you say. When I go talk to the community, though,
it's nine out of ten people say that makes sense
to me. So I see a real contrast, and I
think the community is behind me.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Well, you know, we deal with a tremendous amount of
homelessness and crime in LA and I live on the
west side of LA.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I'm not in Kansas, all right.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I'm in a deep blue section of Los Angeles, and
everybody that I talk to is disgusted by the homeless
and crime policies. And you know, yet the progressive government
here is utterly resistant to doing anything that most of
the people who vote for them want.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah. Yeah, well, we've gotten very focused on process, at
least I think people in government and certainly the Democratic Party.
I think there's a lot of focus on process. There's
a lot of very nice sounding principles and a lot
of virtue signaling. There's less focus and accountability on the
actual outcomes, on what it really means in practice, what's
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actually happening, what are people experiencing in their daily lives.
That's why I was attracted to local government, because you
can actually affect what happens when somebody steps out of
their front door every day, the roads they drive down,
the parks, their kids playing. You know, how safe their
community is. It has a really it really matters to people.
But we have to be accountable for the outcomes, not
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the words that we use.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Matt.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Good talking with you again, Santa Se Mayor, Matt Mayhead.
We'll talk again.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Thank you, look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Thank you. John.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
All right, this is how people should run cities. We'll continue.
We have Michael Monks not wearing leopard. I take requests.
If you wanted that, I would have done it. Filling
in the Denra Bark chair there make a Micael live
in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am
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Speaker 3 (12:56):
We're on from one until four every day, and then
after four o'clock it's to John Cobelt Show podcast, and
you listen to what you missed, and if you're just
joining us, you missed. A reasonable person, a rare reasonable person.
Matt Mayhan is his name. He's the mayor of San Diego.
He's a Democrat mayor of San Jose, excuse me, and
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he's a reasonable person. He's not one of these progressive
whack jobs that has infested Los Angeles with all kinds
of destructive policies.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And it just proves that if.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
You change the way you vote, and you don't have
to vote even for a right wing guy, but you
vote for somebody who's normal, he's going to do normal things.
He would do things that you would do if you
were the mayor. We had him on last year because
he was one of the first prominent Democrats to say
Prop thirty six is a good idea. Yeah, theft should
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be a crime again. Public drug use is a crime.
Fentanel crime, all right, nothing controversial about that. That was
normal life. For most of our life. That was normal life.
And the thing about this progressive infection that has ruined
so much of southern California is it scrambled people's minds
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where they thought normal life was right wing conservative something
to be ashamed of. It's like, no, it was normal life.
It's like growing up. I'm sure you grew up in
a town where people did not urinate and defecate and
vomit and use drugs on your Little League field, Right,
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you played Little League? Did you ever find homeless people
living intents? Watching television? Selling drugs. Defecating happened to my
son's little league field here in LA. They were camped
out in right field. They plugged into an electrical supply
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that they used to light the to light the baseball stadium,
and and it happened in other places.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Not normal.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
It's not a political stance, it's not a liberal conservative issue.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It's normal life.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
So Matt says, his new policy is going to be
he's got to get approval for this. They're going to
offer shelter three times, and then after that you uh are,
you can be you can be arrested and maybe put
in jail, maybe sent to a drug court or some
other kind of court that handles mental illness, and then
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a judge will decide where you're going. And now the
homeless guy's not going to die in the street, and
now you're not going to have a crazy person or
a drug addict living on your sidewalk or on your
kids ball field, and you can go back to normal life.
And you notice what I asked him, does he run
into resistance from other Democrats in the city government. Well, yeah,
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of course, of course, because it's crazy people and normal
people must defeat crazy people. That is the issue not
Republican Democrat, liberal, conservative, right wing, left wing, none of
that stuff. It's normal people versus the insane. And too
many people in government now, both in elected office and
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running bureaucracies, and employees as well, and people in the
media are just insane. They have some kind of derangement
syndrome of one sort or another. And this homeless arrangement
syndrome is you're going to have thousands of people living
in the street, soiling themselves, acting crazy, menacing people, and
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it's going to come to an end in San Jose
if Mayheon gets his way. And then the third thing
is for city officials, council members, department heads, they don't
get an automatic raise unless they can prove through some
sort of metric that there's been actual progress. That's his quote,
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actual progress based on justifiable, based on measurable documented performance.
So you prove that you and your department are achieving
the goals that's been set out, then you get your raise.
And if you don't, no raise, Jane, anybody you ever
work under that system at your company where you had
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to prove that you have accomplished your goals, exceeded your
goals before you get the bump. So that's three for
three from Matt Mayhem Prop thirty six. Given homeless people
three shots or they can get arrested, and then you're
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going to link raises to the performance of the city
officials to see what they accomplish. Oh and by the ways,
you noticed that homeless thing. While Garcetti and Karen Bass
are building apartments that take ten years to build for
a million dollars, he's gonna They're gonna get prefabricated homes
in Santase for twenty five to thirty and then you
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when you include all the you know you have to
you have to pave the lot and get electricity and
water hooked up. Then the price may go up to
eighty thousand dollars. But man, that's way way less than
a million, and it's way easier to do. So, Matt Mayheon,
what politicians ought to be like normal.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 3 (18:43):
Follow us at John Cobot Radio and social media. Coming
up in the next segment, we are going to talk
about that Palestinian protester, activist Mahmoud Collie, who is sitting
in an ice detention center in Louisiana. He was the
one who was riling up protesters at Columbia University last
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spring in a full support of the bloodthirsty Hamas terrorist
group member. Parts of the university shut down. Jewish kids
were blocked and harassed, they couldn't attend class, created a
lot of bayhem, and the idiots at Columbia University stood
by and allowed it all to happen. Well, it's not
going to happen anymore because at Columbia Trump pulled just
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in the last week four hundred million dollars worth of
federal aid, so they lost a huge amount of money.
And he said, any university that allows these kinds of
demonstrations and this kind of treatment of Jewish students, that's it.
You're losing all your funding, all your fed funding. Well, Khalil,
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it was announced that he was going to be deported
and then a judg intervened at least temporarily. He's in
Louisiana right now, and we Tom Holman says he's a
national security threat. We are going to cover all that
some of that in the next segment that Royal Oaks
is gonna come on just after Michael's two o'clock news
to talk about the legal details on whether whether he's
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got a green card? Can can he kick a guy
who has a green card out for what Khalil allegedly
has been doing? All right, So that's that's all ahead.
Here's another great thing that the Trump administration is doing,
not just kicking out terris who support the vicious genocide, but.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
The EPA.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Under Lee Zelden started the process today of rescinding all
the vehicle fuel efficiency standards that the Biden administration had
had insisted on because they said these field standards were
so high they were going to be forcing Americans into
(21:08):
electric cars whether we want to or not. And I
got nothing against electric cars. If you want to do that,
I don't want to be forced into it. For obvious reasons.
They're expensive, it's not easy to find charging stations when
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you're on the road. There's a lot of people who
can't charge from their homes. If you live in an apartment,
many of the charging stations.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Don't even work. I don't want to deal with it.
I don't think the technology is ready for.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Modern life, or my version of modern life doesn't fit,
and for most people it doesn't fit. So we should
have the choice to drive the car we need and
not be forced like government regulation. I mean, they were
looking at within seven years. They wanted a fifty percent
reduction in the amount of greenhouse gas emissions for SUVs
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and a forty four percent reduction for smaller vehicles, and
it was going to be for trucks and tractors. And
the Trump administration announced that they are reconsidering a trillion
dollars worth of regulatory costs and it it it that's
(22:37):
going to open up a lot of money for companies
to develop and innovate their products without the government forcing
them into manufacturing x amount of electric cars that nobody wants.
Do you know how many electric cars are unsold? Dealer
(22:58):
lots were filling up with electric cars everywhere. Hertz almost
went bankrupt buying a big electric car fleet. You ever
go to travelosity when when you're planning a trip, you
gotta be really careful, because they pushed all the electric
cars as the choices at the top of the list,
(23:18):
and and Herts was overwhelmingly electric. And we're looking at this,
it's like, yeah, I'm gonna go on a driving trip.
I'm gonna go a driving trip, especially you know, you
go through the rocky mountains, you're gonna get an electric
car and you're gonna end up dying on the side
of the road, eating by a bear after you run
out of juice. You know, runs out of juice if
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it's too cold, runs out of juice if you're driving
uphill through a lot of elevation, and they don't have
an electrical grid to handle it. Anyway, it was just
total nonsense. Leezelden Uh, the EPA chief, wrote a piece
in the Wall Street Journal today saying that yesterday was
(24:01):
the most consequential day of deregulation in American history. We're
taking thirty one actions, thirty one executive orders, massive overhaul,
and we're going to drive a dagger through the heart
of climate change regulation, roll back trillions of dollars in
regulatory costs, in hidden taxes. The costs eventually for buying
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a car will be cheaper. It'll become more affordable. This
is how you drive down prices. Most people have no
idea about the excessive regulations in government at all levels
and how that drives up the price of everything. Why
do you think we pay two dollars a gallon more
(24:47):
than many other states for gas. Why do you think
our electricity costs are one hundred percent higher than most
other states. It's the California government and its regulations and Biden,
because there were a lot of California progressives in the
Biden White House, and they were pushing this on the
rest of the country. And now Trump is blocking it.
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And I hope what they do is they rig these
to block some of California's stupid ideas. I mean, I
have seen so many political revolts over gas prices except
here in California, which has the worst gas prices that
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any state has ever had in the history of America.
It's two bucks more than everywhere else, or not two
bucks more than most other places. And it's like, why
do people put up with this because all the regulation
and all the taxes and all none of it had
(25:52):
had any effect on the climate.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
They've tried it twenty years. Twenty years.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
You let them get away with abusing you. I feel
like everybody in the state of Stockholm syndrome. They've like
developed a romantic relationship with their captors, their oppressors. Really,
I honestly think a lot of people in the state
are midt Leo. I just don't know of another species
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anywhere in the world where they would willingly allow the
government to jack out the price of gas an extra
two bucks just for the heck of it, and double
the electricity costs and then claim they're out for the
working class.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
The working class are the ones that get crushed.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
The wealthy tech millionaires don't care what the price of
gas is or the price of electricity. It's it's all
the regular people again, the normal people. You're getting crushed.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So it's good news there.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
We come back, we'll start explaining what's going on with this.
This wanna be terrorist that got a green card was
going to Columbia and was starting big protests against Israel
and against America's support of Israel. It's those college protests
from last spring. Well, uh, Mahmood Khalil one of the activists.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
They want to.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Deport him, and uh, we're gonna talk. We're gonna hear
from Tom holm when we have a clip, he says
Tom Holme. Holman says Khalil is a national security threat,
and then Royal oaks to come on right after the
two o'clock news to explain the legal details on whether
they can't actually kick a Green card holder out for
this sort of behavior.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
You're listening to John Cobels on Demand from KFI A sixty.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Coming up after two o'clock, we're going to talk with.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
The ABC News legal analyst Royal Oaks to explain the
legal details of what I'm gonna tell you about right now,
and that is the Trump administration trying to deport Mahmood Khalil.
He was a grant student at Columbia University, and he
was the troublemaker who whipped up those huge protests at
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Columbia that went on seem forever. Now he's here under
with a green card. And I remember when this whole
situation blew up last year, just looking at the participants
and the leaders, I thought, how many of these graduate students,
these college students are from a foreign country, and we've
(28:28):
given them a visa or some kind of legal residency
in this case of green card, and maybe they're getting
us subsidizing their educations. And now they're taking the freedom
they have in America to block Jewish students from attending class,
to terrorize Jewish students, and also to disrupt the entire university.
(28:54):
I'm one of my sons went, I don't want to
mention the exact universe city. But he went to a
real good one and a university prone to all kinds
of protests, protests that would make the news and see
him on TV. And I said to him, I go,
(29:14):
what are the normal again the word normal? What are
the normal students think?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
And he says, they all hate it.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
It's a it's a pain in the neck because you
have pathways throughout the school, you know, the sidewalks blocked
off by the police or by the protesters. It takes
you an extra half hour to walk all the way
around the campus to get to your class.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It's it's it's most.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Of the most of the students thought it was just nonsense,
even if.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
They privately agreed. They're there, they're there to do business.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
A university is a place of business for the students
whose families are paying tens of thousands of dollars to
go I mean Columbia University. I mean, I bet you
that's seventy five thousand dollars a year at least, And
then you have these lunatics like Mahmood Khalil.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Turns out he was hearing a green card.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
And he's denying Jewish students, American citizens, the right to
get educated, the right to go to class. Well, the
hell is he And I figured, you know what, bit
you we got to stop leading letting these these students.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
In the country. Block him, don't let him set.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Foot off the plane, cancel their visas, deport him, send
him back, get rid of these programs that allow them in.
They just come here to cause trouble out. That's absolutely right.
So anyway, Khalil's green card was revoked by the Trump administration.
They were going to deport him, but a federal judge,
Jesse Furman, has intervened and he wants everyone to appear
(30:57):
in court and from an order that Khalil be allowed
at least one phone call on Wednesday, and it's today
and then Thursday. And because apparently the ICE people weren't
letting a letting him make any calls. Here is Tom Holman.
(31:18):
Trump'sporters are describing Khalil.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
This is actually direct directly contractor the United States Foreign Policy.
That's a Secretary of State. That's a charge on the
Secretary of State. We consider a national security threat. When
you're on campus, they say, and I hear your freeom
of speech, freedom of speech, freedom speech. Can you stay
in a movie theater and yell fire? Can you slander somebody? Bourbon?
(31:42):
Free speech has limitations, But when you go to college campus,
you incite protesting and locking down and taking over buildings
and damaging property and handing out leaflets for hamas who
is a terrorist organization coming to this country either on
a visa or becoming the resident. Ailing is a great
privilege where there are rules associated with that. You might
(32:03):
have been able to get away with that stuff on
the last administration, but you want in this administration.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, screaming support for a terrorist organization and blocking Jewish
students from going to class. Yeah, revoke the green card
when we come back. Royal Oaks, ABC News Legal Analyst.
He's going to go through the legal path whether revoking
is possible under the rules the constitution. We've got in
(32:29):
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