April 9, 2025 • 25 mins
In this episode, Ed Morrissey, managing editor of Hot Air, reflects on his extensive career in blogging and media, discussing the evolution of the industry, the challenges of maintaining relevance, and the importance of personal integrity in writing. He shares insights on the transition from blogging to professional journalism, the significance of timely reporting, and offers advice for aspiring writers navigating today's complex media landscape. The Karol Markowicz Show is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Wednesday & Friday.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Marco which show
on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
My guest today is Ed Morrissey.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
He is the managing editor of Hot Air and the
author of Going Red.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Ed's so nice to have.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You on, Carol.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
It's great to talk to you again.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
We've known each other a million years, like really a
million in internet in the internet world, way before there
was a Twitter or an ex We got to know
each other in.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
The blog world.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And there's been one or two changes since then, would
you say that, couple?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
There have been a few changes over the years. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
You know it's been. It's been one heck of a ride. Actually,
you know it's I wouldn't have traded it for anything else.
This is it's been a great experience.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
You've always been very positive and I always enjoyed that
about you.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You've been in Hot Air how long now.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Well, I've been at hot Air now it would be
seventeen years, and say.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Seventeen years and internet land is like one hundred years.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I'm ancient, Carol. I have reached the old man shaking
fist at cloud stage of my life and I am
fully willing to come on here and say get off
my damn lawn and turn down your radios.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And but you don't say that very often.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I feel like, again, I think I see you as
very like positive, optimistic.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Just you know, a friend to all. Would would that
be accurate?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I certainly hope. So that would be a lovely way
to actually have come across in life, so that it's encouraging.
So yes, I mean that's my aim. I don't know
how well I pulled that off.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, So how did you get your start in writing
or in media?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, I've always wanted to do writing, and it's just
a question of what kind of writing that you want
to do, right, And so I thought I'd be a
short story guy, and that didn't work out. Number of
a number of rejections from all of the leading magazines
from that era, Yeah, told me that that wasn't going
to be my path. And then I was trying to
novels and I wrote three of them, and you know,
(02:03):
Garth Brooks has this song it says thank God for
unanswered prayers. Yeah, I am so happy that none of
those three are actually out where anybody because they weren't good,
you know. And then I took up blogging, honestly, Initially
the thought was I need to be more disciplined about
writing every day. You know, I was a call center
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manager at the time. I was actually not unhappy with
that career. But I don't want to write, and I
thought at some point I want to publish a book,
and I thought, well, the way to do that is to,
you know, get in the habit of writing every day.
And then blogging came along. I started doing.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That and here did you start?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Late two thousand and three and.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
What was your Your blog was called Captain.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Captain's Quarters, Captain's Right Up, and it was it was.
It was an ongoing thing from two thousand and three
to two thousand and eight. When I came aboard hot Air,
you know, they required me to shut down the old
blog and redirect the traffic to hot air. But it's
still out there. I think right now there's some difficulty
in accessing the archives, but I do pay to have
(03:07):
the archives maintains interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Wow, so I don't have my blog was called Alarming News.
I don't have it anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I let my domain name lap.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Somebody snapped up that domain name and I don't have
archives of any of it. And I feel mixed about that,
because like I would like to go back sometimes and
look at what I maybe wrote in the past. On
the other hand, I find a lot of the just
the way I used to speak very embarrassing. Or when
I see like old Facebook, you know, status messages from
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fifteen years ago, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
God, that was awful. I talk like that.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I don't understand why you feel that way, because I
loved Alarming News, and I thought you did a great
job there.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
But but you know that when you when you read
the past, you the way like just the way I
would turn a phrase or yes, I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Know very yah.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, I go through the same thing looking at my
old stuf too, But but I mean, Alarming News was great.
I loved the Alarming News and it was great domain name,
which is the reason why I got snapped up. I
don't think anybody's going to snap up Captain's quartersblog dot com.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
But you know, you never know.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I use it for some email purposes, to personal email purposes,
so I just keep the I keep the site running,
and I think I need to alert them that it's
not coming up. You know, it was like a few
months ago I realized that there was some issues with it.
It's a high priority for me that I still haven't
filed AATA, of course, but eventually I will because I
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do like to go back and look at it from
time to time.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So what do you see as like the major change
from those days.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Well, I think, you know, it's more professional, right. I
think substack has a little bit of what the blog Yes, right,
substack is kind of what the old blog is beer
was like. But I got professional and the reason was
because we all got better at what we do. You
got professional. I got professional, and it's because we we learned.
And you know, those of us who survived that era
(05:03):
exactly so, because you know, we we were able to
improve ourselves over time and remain dedicated to it. A
lot of people just had lives, right they were, but
they just had lives.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah they had data, Yeah, no lives. That was life.
But I remember that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Era of when bloggers started going professional and they just
they like the major you know what we call the
mainstream news outlets started MSM started hiring bloggers and that
was the end of it, really, and it was for me.
It was actually w n y C Public Radio in
New York. They needed like a token conservative and they
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hired me and the Post hired me from there, and
it was, you know, kind of the end of that
for me. But yeah, it was the people that were
really good got snapped up. I'm not saying I was
really good.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I'm just saying that's that's.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Kind of how it was really good because you were
really good.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
But Hot Air has been so instrumental for so long
and so in the mix of the conversation.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Is that hard to maintain? Just just the sheer length
of time that you guys have been around is impressive.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Well, thank you. First off, I appreciate that. It's it's
you know, it takes an effort, right, and from time
to time we fall back a little bit. From time
to time we catch up a little bit. And I
think that you know, we were brought up by again,
we were brought up by Salem fifteen years ago, just
a little over fifteen years ago, and which is great.
(06:39):
I love Salem. I was working with Salem prior to
that and local radio, and then now I work for
Salem and I'm very happy about that. And they've challenged
us from time to time and they said, you know,
one of the things that made hot air. So I'm
trying to think of the word that they use. But
basically what us was the fact that we were able
(07:01):
to react fast to it, right.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Right, I'm going to say timely, But that wasn't quite
the I knew what you were looking for.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, that we could jump on emerging stories with you know,
some basis of already acquired knowledge and comments on it
intelligently immediately.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Sometimes we forget that and we get a little bit
too lost in our think pieces.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Sure, right, there.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Is something about that immediacy that we've we've lost. I mean,
I guess we have it on X now, but then
it's not quite the same as as the blog post
of the of that era and what.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Hot air does.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
It's like I'll see something that I want to write about,
I'll write it, and then four days later it comes
out you know in some some outlets.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
That's that's a lag.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You know, that's not the immediacy of getting it up
on your site and having people react right away exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
And sometimes we have to sometimes internally we have to
remind ourselves of that is that the thing pieces are great,
but stuff that could run today tomorrow or that are
you know later in the week generally aren't what is
driving eyeballs to the site right now. And so I
mean you have to have a mix because I think
that those thing pieces are incredibly important, so that we
(08:17):
can to a certain extent philosophies about what our approach
is going to be when breaking news stories actually come up.
We've kind of firmed up in our minds that, you know,
how we're going to approach things. Yeah, but you still
have to be on top of the news cycle. And
that's that's the trick. You know, it's hard to stay
on top of a new cycle, especially lately.
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What do you consider your be You know, for me,
I consider myself a generalist, right. I try to write
about lots of different things because lots of different things
interest me. But I think, you know, hot era. I mean,
I think the beat is really the breaking news cycle, right,
and that's again we have to kind of attune ourselves
to that. But I like to write about the economy.
I like to write about you know, policy, Policy is
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really what matters most to me. I'm not big on
the personality driven type of stuff in politics. I'm more
driven by policy and philosophy, you know, ideology, whatever you
want to call it. And then you know, I do
other things to amuse myself. I used to write quite
a few more film reviews than I have lately, just
(10:42):
because I just haven't had time to go out to
the movie theaters.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Not because films are bad.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Now, well, it's kind of fun to write reviews for
bad films, I have to admit, but.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Not the watching of the bad film I watched that.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
My movie watching has like plummeted to zero, just because
every movie I watch is so bad.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
And then I and.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
It's always like the critically acclaimed movies that I watch,
and they're just terrible, and I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Don't even get me started on the Shape of Water.
It was so bad when I when I got back
to my house and wrote the review, which I did
the night I watched.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
That, like giggling as you wrote it.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I was more grinding my teeth as I wrote it.
And I wrote in there, this is so bad. I
predict it's going to win a lot of awards this
coming season. Of course, one's Best Oscar, Best Picture Oscar,
and I actually pulled that forward after it won just
to say I told you so. But it's kind of
fun too. It's kind of fun to be that critical
(11:43):
to feel the release of being that critical. Sometimes when
you really love a movie, you're kind of defending it
to a certain extent. Yeah, So, I mean that's a trap.
I mean you have to recognize that if you're going
to write criticism, you have to recognize that that's a trap.
You have to be fair, right, right. You can't just.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You know, I love this movie, the act on stuff
that you.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Don't like and this, oh you know, just skip the
fact that this film I really love doesn't have an
act two and half of it. Act three is missing
as well.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I overlooked it. Why can't your actly? Yeah, what do
you worry about?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
You don't worry about being wrong, you know. To me,
it's I mean, everybody's wrong. Everybody makes mistakes. I'm not
so much worried about making a factual mistake, although that's
always embarrassing when you have to go correction. I'll tell
you what I did just recently was kind of fun.
I had written something about what Tara Palmery wrote. She
had interviewed Michael Rosa, who was a Biden aide, and
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he was He admitted in a public forum while she
was interviewing that that they were kind of gaslighting people
about Biden, right, And she had written this thing at
Puck saying, wow, this is kind of a big deal, right,
and I wrote this thing. I said, well, she didn't
really get the context, right, that wasn't just about twenty
twenty four where their gaslighting thing, and go all the
way back to twenty nineteen and this and that and
the other thing. She ends up dming me on Twitter
(13:04):
and asked just so that she she asked if I
could include her YouTube thing that went with it. I
was like, oh, yeah, sure, and we ended up. She
ended up. I ended up interviewing R and QQ a
few days later and it was great. But I realized
while I was adding the YouTube that I had misspelled
her name throughout the entire post as Paul Meery. Right.
(13:24):
So I said, by the way, I apologize, I've misspelled
your name all the way through this, And she said,
did you, Jennifer pauiery me. This is all you know,
I particularly this is sort of off the record, but
we discussed it on air, so I'm assuming she's fine
with this. It was all in good humor, and I
said yes, and you know, I tweeted it yes, and
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then Hank's head in shame, you know, in parenthesis.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Right, So you're such a good guy, like I just
you're too.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Good for all of this, honestly, you know, it's it's
those kind of human moments that sort of make it fun,
you know, And then you have the people who are
pills who you just decide that I'm just not going
to I'm just not going to engage people that are
miserable and and I don't want to. I don't want
to talk about those examples because it's you know, that
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person should be those people should be on this podcast
if we're going to have that conversation. So I'll just
see that it happens, it happens, and you just move on. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So have you been wrong a lot in your career?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Well, I don't know about a lot. I hope not
a lot, right, I mean I've been wrong. I mean
I've gotten some things wrong. We're've had to go back.
I guess the big the biggest example was the you
know polling analysis in twenty twelve, which enraged when when
when Obama ended up winning that year, our readership was
furious with us and a lot of them left them
didn't come back. Yeah. Well, and I I said, we
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blew it. You know, we were doing that whole unskewed
the polls thing. Sure, and it turned out that the
polls really didn't need to be unskewed, but sometimes they do.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
You're sort of like, it's a it's a tough spot
to find yourself.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Sometimes the poles really are skewed well.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
And they have been right, they were before, they've been since.
But I've learned not to assert data that I don't
actually have. And you know, we were re manipulating the data,
assuming that had been manipulated in the first place, and
we were just flat out wrong, right, So I wrote
at least two, you know, apologies to readers for that,
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and I end up writing a book about that sort
of tangentially right, and you know, that was an enjoyable
experience too. But yeah, that would be one of the
bigger things that I've gotten wrong. And I mean, I
spent months getting that wrong, so you know, I should
own it since I spent months getting it wrong. I
put a lot of hard work into getting that wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Very fair though, I mean, again, I think that so
long ago, and I you know, there's been again opportunities
for the polls to be and skewed since then. But
it's very noble of you to take that blame responsibility,
however you want to say it.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
You know how noble it is when it's really patently
obvious to everybody and you're just owning up.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You can let people forget it. Nobody will ever, you know, Well, yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, I guess, yeah, I mean, but I mean you asked,
And so that's a pretty good example of it. I've
gotten factually thinking things factually incorrect that on a couple
of occasions, I negated the entire point of a post
that I wrote from which point you just put, you know, update,
I got this wrong. Everything below here is no sense
you know you got that?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, yeah, And so the beauty of blogging versus publishing
in a newspaper right there.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Though, right right, you know. And honestly, I've gotten columns
early on. I think I got one really wrong for
The New York Sun, and I I actually just quit
writing the column. I was so embarrassed by it. And
this is early in my blogging career. Yeah, they didn't
ask me to stop. They were kind of unhappy with
the fact that I'd gotten something pretty significantly wrong. It
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colored the conclusion of the whole point of my column,
and I wrote back, and I, you know, it was
abjectly apology, you know, abjectly apologizing for it. And they
were nice about it. This is not The New York
Sun's issue. But I was so embarrassed by that it
just I just decided I didn't want to write a
column for a while, and later on I picked up
I picked up columns.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Down the road, so too good.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
What advice would you give your fifteen year old self
for sixteen year old self.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Oh, my goodness, you know, I have a joke answer
for that, which is to stay, which is to say,
either be a left handed relief pitcher or a police
kicker for football, because you can. You can. You can
spend twenty years doing that in your uniform will never
get dirty.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
But I feel like you like getting your uniform dirty.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I know I do kind of even back in those days.
I kind of like getting the uniform dirty, you know,
you know. And then the obvious answer is finished college,
which I didn't do.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I don't think I would have listened to that, though,
because that was the same advice that my dad was
giving me constantly during that same period. I was and
I've written about that a couple times. I think at
hot air, and I think that if I was, you know,
to seriously address this question, what I would say is one,
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connect to your faith, because God is going to be
very important to you, and the sooner you connect to that,
the better off you're going to be. And the second
thing would be I would say, don't And this is
something I've told people. There's two things to remember in life.
It's never as bad as it seems, and it's never
as good as it seems. And you know, when you're
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sixteen years old, you're going to spend the next ten
years going through really difficult highs and lows. And you
look back and you go, why was I you know,
why was I despairing over that situation sort of thing?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
And the moment it's everything.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
It's everything, and that's part of just growing up to
you just learn that. And I don't think I don't
think you can hear that advice, and sure anybody actually
pay attention to it, even if it's coming from your
older self. But I mean, those are the things I
think that I would actually say to myself back then.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Got it or youth in general.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Right, It's like yeah, youth in general.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, what would have.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Been your like plan B had this not worked out,
had you started writing and it didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I think it just stayed with the call center job.
I actually liked the company I was working for it.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I'm so creative, like I feel like, I guess I
imagine you would have done something else creative.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Well, I mean, I guess I was thinking in terms
of career. But yeah, you know, if the blogging thing
hadn't worked out, you know, I'm I would never have
gotten a chance to write the book I did. Maybe
I would have improved myself to the point where I
could actually write a book that would actually get published.
But I don't know that that's the case. I think
that if the blogging thing hadn't worked out, it might
have been sort of a well, you know, the writing
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thing is not going to work out. I need to
focus on the you know, on the blessings that I
have in my life right now, just and just go
forward with that. So but I mean, it's been a
huge blessing. The blogging thing has been such a huge
blessing for me. Yeah, I can't imagine being without the
stuff that the experiences of the last twenty twine years.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Right, do you ever think about like the people getting
into writing now or like trying to do what we
do without the blogging world.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I don't know what to suggest to them a lot
of the time. I mean, I say, be on X,
you know, engage, be interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
But the blogging world really did provide the path in
a way that it just doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Well, I think it's a ground floor situation. It's an
emergency emerging industry. I mean, we didn't think about this
all that much in that YO time.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
We were thinking about how do we make this profitable?
But we weren't thinking like how do we become professional writers?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
As I wasn't right and exactly and you know, honestly,
I thought the path would be more to radio, which
I still do, you know, but I don't do it
on a regular base this right, I.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Guess it came late to all this, the starting podcasts
and well, I don't know as of spades. And I
had a podcast in yeah, two thousand and five, two
thousand and five, so twenty years ago, Hoist the Black Flag.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
But you know it was an internet radio show.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Well, and I had one back in two thousand and seven,
and we've been doing it ever since at hot Air, Right.
But I think that the problem is is that it
became an industry and so the barrier to entry is
higher than it was when you and I were doing
this twenty one. Yeah, and that's the reason why I
mentioned substack. I think subtech is a really good platform.
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It's kind of like what Blogger was before Google bought it, right, Yeah,
It's a it's a low investment, entry level way to
establish your voice and then you can compete in the
marketplace of ideas against places like hot air and red
State and all the other all the other different phones
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out there. You have to know how to market and
that was something I think that you know, people would
ask me come out and talk about how how people
get started blogging this. You know, this would be like
an AFP type of thing, you know, go to AFP
conventions or whatever you call them, and I'd say, you
have to be serious about it. You have to know
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what your market is, you have to know who the
players are. You have to engage the players so that
they'll engage you back. And you can't just send out,
you know, mass emails to everybody in creation because nobody
reads those things. You know, you have to engage people.
I always felt like I was delivering as sort of
the mechanics of multi level marketing talking about the actual writing,
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because you have to assume the writing. The idea is
how do you make your writing work? And and so, yeah,
I think that that's still possible, makes it more possible
than it was. But yeah, it's it's hard to crack now.
It's so it's so professionalized now that that it's it's
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tougher to crack. I don't envy the people who are
trying to come into this and something. You start looking
at what's going to be the next thing. And for
a while, it was X. For a while, it was TikTok,
it was Facebook for a while until Facebook cracked down
on the speech stuff. And now they've light up on that.
But I don't think people are going to trust Facebook
as a platform anymore to do that type of work.
So I don't know, I don't know what it's so tough,
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you know.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I remember back then somebody would leave a comment on
my blood, you know, on a post I wrote, and
I would go look at their blog and look at
what they're writing.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And that's how you know you found new writers. You
don't really have that anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I mean, I guess now if somebody like tweets at
you or whatever it's called now, but and maybe says
something interesting, then you go to their page and you
look at it.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
But even that I click over a lot less often.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, I don't think so. I think I just look
at their at their at their Twitter string, right, I
don't know that I click over sometimes.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I no, I mean that their Twitter stream. I don't
even click over to their Twitter stream anymore. Like I
think maybe like once in a while, if the if
their tweet at me really grabs me, then okay, I'll
go look at their profile page.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
But you know, Rare, I think you're right.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
I think it's it's not the same type of thing
because I think back in those days again, less of
an industry, more as a collegial collection of hobbyists.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, that's what we are getting together at like seapack
can neither.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Seapack or you know, the sidelines or anything. Really.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
The RNC convention in New York two thousand and four
was a big one. Yeah, well, I miss seeing you around,
you know. I think we need to get that these
going again where we run into each other at different events,
and I've loved the opportunity to talk to you today
because you know, I think you're just fantastic.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
We're going to take a quick break and be right
back on the Carol Marcowitch Show and us here with
your best tip for my listeners on how they can
improve their lives.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
How they can improve their lives. I feel very I
don't feel qualified to tell them, but I will. I
will say this, which is that you have to be
true to yourself. And by that, I don't mean that
you have to be selfish, but I think you have
to know who you are in order to be truly
good to others. And I think only by being truly
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good to others are you going to improve your life.
Because the more you're focused on yourself, the worse your
life is going to get over the long period of time.
So know yourself, connect with people on the knowledge of
who you are, and I think that improves everything.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Here is Ed Morriscy check him out on hot air
dot com. You are just fantastic, So nice to see you.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Thank you, Carol, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Thanks so much for joining us on The Carol Marcowich Show.
Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.
Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Marco which show
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
My guest today is Ed Morrissey.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
He is the managing editor of Hot Air and the
author of Going Red.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Ed's so nice to have.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You on, Carol.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
It's great to talk to you again.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
We've known each other a million years, like really a
million in internet in the internet world, way before there
was a Twitter or an ex We got to know
each other in.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
The blog world.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And there's been one or two changes since then, would
you say that, couple?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
There have been a few changes over the years. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
You know it's been. It's been one heck of a ride. Actually,
you know it's I wouldn't have traded it for anything else.
This is it's been a great experience.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
You've always been very positive and I always enjoyed that
about you.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You've been in Hot Air how long now.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Well, I've been at hot Air now it would be
seventeen years, and say.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Seventeen years and internet land is like one hundred years.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I'm ancient, Carol. I have reached the old man shaking
fist at cloud stage of my life and I am
fully willing to come on here and say get off
my damn lawn and turn down your radios.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And but you don't say that very often.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I feel like, again, I think I see you as
very like positive, optimistic.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Just you know, a friend to all. Would would that
be accurate?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I certainly hope. So that would be a lovely way
to actually have come across in life, so that it's encouraging.
So yes, I mean that's my aim. I don't know
how well I pulled that off.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, So how did you get your start in writing
or in media?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, I've always wanted to do writing, and it's just
a question of what kind of writing that you want
to do, right, And so I thought I'd be a
short story guy, and that didn't work out. Number of
a number of rejections from all of the leading magazines
from that era, Yeah, told me that that wasn't going
to be my path. And then I was trying to
novels and I wrote three of them, and you know,
(02:03):
Garth Brooks has this song it says thank God for
unanswered prayers. Yeah, I am so happy that none of
those three are actually out where anybody because they weren't good,
you know. And then I took up blogging, honestly, Initially
the thought was I need to be more disciplined about
writing every day. You know, I was a call center
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manager at the time. I was actually not unhappy with
that career. But I don't want to write, and I
thought at some point I want to publish a book,
and I thought, well, the way to do that is to,
you know, get in the habit of writing every day.
And then blogging came along. I started doing.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That and here did you start?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Late two thousand and three and.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
What was your Your blog was called Captain.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Captain's Quarters, Captain's Right Up, and it was it was.
It was an ongoing thing from two thousand and three
to two thousand and eight. When I came aboard hot Air,
you know, they required me to shut down the old
blog and redirect the traffic to hot air. But it's
still out there. I think right now there's some difficulty
in accessing the archives, but I do pay to have
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the archives maintains interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Wow, so I don't have my blog was called Alarming News.
I don't have it anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I let my domain name lap.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Somebody snapped up that domain name and I don't have
archives of any of it. And I feel mixed about that,
because like I would like to go back sometimes and
look at what I maybe wrote in the past. On
the other hand, I find a lot of the just
the way I used to speak very embarrassing. Or when
I see like old Facebook, you know, status messages from
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fifteen years ago, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
God, that was awful. I talk like that.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I don't understand why you feel that way, because I
loved Alarming News, and I thought you did a great
job there.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
But but you know that when you when you read
the past, you the way like just the way I
would turn a phrase or yes, I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Know very yah.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, I go through the same thing looking at my
old stuf too, But but I mean, Alarming News was great.
I loved the Alarming News and it was great domain name,
which is the reason why I got snapped up. I
don't think anybody's going to snap up Captain's quartersblog dot com.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
But you know, you never know.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I use it for some email purposes, to personal email purposes,
so I just keep the I keep the site running,
and I think I need to alert them that it's
not coming up. You know, it was like a few
months ago I realized that there was some issues with it.
It's a high priority for me that I still haven't
filed AATA, of course, but eventually I will because I
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do like to go back and look at it from
time to time.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So what do you see as like the major change
from those days.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Well, I think, you know, it's more professional, right. I
think substack has a little bit of what the blog Yes, right,
substack is kind of what the old blog is beer
was like. But I got professional and the reason was
because we all got better at what we do. You
got professional. I got professional, and it's because we we learned.
And you know, those of us who survived that era
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exactly so, because you know, we we were able to
improve ourselves over time and remain dedicated to it. A
lot of people just had lives, right they were, but
they just had lives.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah they had data, Yeah, no lives. That was life.
But I remember that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Era of when bloggers started going professional and they just
they like the major you know what we call the
mainstream news outlets started MSM started hiring bloggers and that
was the end of it, really, and it was for me.
It was actually w n y C Public Radio in
New York. They needed like a token conservative and they
(05:44):
hired me and the Post hired me from there, and
it was, you know, kind of the end of that
for me. But yeah, it was the people that were
really good got snapped up. I'm not saying I was
really good.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I'm just saying that's that's.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Kind of how it was really good because you were
really good.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
But Hot Air has been so instrumental for so long
and so in the mix of the conversation.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Is that hard to maintain? Just just the sheer length
of time that you guys have been around is impressive.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Well, thank you. First off, I appreciate that. It's it's
you know, it takes an effort, right, and from time
to time we fall back a little bit. From time
to time we catch up a little bit. And I
think that you know, we were brought up by again,
we were brought up by Salem fifteen years ago, just
a little over fifteen years ago, and which is great.
(06:39):
I love Salem. I was working with Salem prior to
that and local radio, and then now I work for
Salem and I'm very happy about that. And they've challenged
us from time to time and they said, you know,
one of the things that made hot air. So I'm
trying to think of the word that they use. But
basically what us was the fact that we were able
(07:01):
to react fast to it, right.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Right, I'm going to say timely, But that wasn't quite
the I knew what you were looking for.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, that we could jump on emerging stories with you know,
some basis of already acquired knowledge and comments on it
intelligently immediately.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Sometimes we forget that and we get a little bit
too lost in our think pieces.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Sure, right, there.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Is something about that immediacy that we've we've lost. I mean,
I guess we have it on X now, but then
it's not quite the same as as the blog post
of the of that era and what.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Hot air does.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
It's like I'll see something that I want to write about,
I'll write it, and then four days later it comes
out you know in some some outlets.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
That's that's a lag.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You know, that's not the immediacy of getting it up
on your site and having people react right away exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
And sometimes we have to sometimes internally we have to
remind ourselves of that is that the thing pieces are great,
but stuff that could run today tomorrow or that are
you know later in the week generally aren't what is
driving eyeballs to the site right now. And so I
mean you have to have a mix because I think
that those thing pieces are incredibly important, so that we
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can to a certain extent philosophies about what our approach
is going to be when breaking news stories actually come up.
We've kind of firmed up in our minds that, you know,
how we're going to approach things. Yeah, but you still
have to be on top of the news cycle. And
that's that's the trick. You know, it's hard to stay
on top of a new cycle, especially lately.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Well, yes, that's like a mile a minute.
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Speaker 4 (09:58):
What do you consider your be You know, for me,
I consider myself a generalist, right. I try to write
about lots of different things because lots of different things
interest me. But I think, you know, hot era. I mean,
I think the beat is really the breaking news cycle, right,
and that's again we have to kind of attune ourselves
to that. But I like to write about the economy.
I like to write about you know, policy, Policy is
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really what matters most to me. I'm not big on
the personality driven type of stuff in politics. I'm more
driven by policy and philosophy, you know, ideology, whatever you
want to call it. And then you know, I do
other things to amuse myself. I used to write quite
a few more film reviews than I have lately, just
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because I just haven't had time to go out to
the movie theaters.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Not because films are bad.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Now, well, it's kind of fun to write reviews for
bad films, I have to admit, but.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Not the watching of the bad film I watched that.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
My movie watching has like plummeted to zero, just because
every movie I watch is so bad.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
And then I and.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
It's always like the critically acclaimed movies that I watch,
and they're just terrible, and I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Don't even get me started on the Shape of Water.
It was so bad when I when I got back
to my house and wrote the review, which I did
the night I watched.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
That, like giggling as you wrote it.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I was more grinding my teeth as I wrote it.
And I wrote in there, this is so bad. I
predict it's going to win a lot of awards this
coming season. Of course, one's Best Oscar, Best Picture Oscar,
and I actually pulled that forward after it won just
to say I told you so. But it's kind of
fun too. It's kind of fun to be that critical
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to feel the release of being that critical. Sometimes when
you really love a movie, you're kind of defending it
to a certain extent. Yeah, So, I mean that's a trap.
I mean you have to recognize that if you're going
to write criticism, you have to recognize that that's a trap.
You have to be fair, right, right. You can't just.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You know, I love this movie, the act on stuff
that you.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Don't like and this, oh you know, just skip the
fact that this film I really love doesn't have an
act two and half of it. Act three is missing
as well.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I overlooked it. Why can't your actly? Yeah, what do
you worry about?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
You don't worry about being wrong, you know. To me,
it's I mean, everybody's wrong. Everybody makes mistakes. I'm not
so much worried about making a factual mistake, although that's
always embarrassing when you have to go correction. I'll tell
you what I did just recently was kind of fun.
I had written something about what Tara Palmery wrote. She
had interviewed Michael Rosa, who was a Biden aide, and
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he was He admitted in a public forum while she
was interviewing that that they were kind of gaslighting people
about Biden, right, And she had written this thing at
Puck saying, wow, this is kind of a big deal, right,
and I wrote this thing. I said, well, she didn't
really get the context, right, that wasn't just about twenty
twenty four where their gaslighting thing, and go all the
way back to twenty nineteen and this and that and
the other thing. She ends up dming me on Twitter
(13:04):
and asked just so that she she asked if I
could include her YouTube thing that went with it. I
was like, oh, yeah, sure, and we ended up. She
ended up. I ended up interviewing R and QQ a
few days later and it was great. But I realized
while I was adding the YouTube that I had misspelled
her name throughout the entire post as Paul Meery. Right.
(13:24):
So I said, by the way, I apologize, I've misspelled
your name all the way through this, And she said,
did you, Jennifer pauiery me. This is all you know,
I particularly this is sort of off the record, but
we discussed it on air, so I'm assuming she's fine
with this. It was all in good humor, and I
said yes, and you know, I tweeted it yes, and
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then Hank's head in shame, you know, in parenthesis.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Right, So you're such a good guy, like I just
you're too.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Good for all of this, honestly, you know, it's it's
those kind of human moments that sort of make it fun,
you know, And then you have the people who are
pills who you just decide that I'm just not going
to I'm just not going to engage people that are
miserable and and I don't want to. I don't want
to talk about those examples because it's you know, that
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person should be those people should be on this podcast
if we're going to have that conversation. So I'll just
see that it happens, it happens, and you just move on. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So have you been wrong a lot in your career?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Well, I don't know about a lot. I hope not
a lot, right, I mean I've been wrong. I mean
I've gotten some things wrong. We're've had to go back.
I guess the big the biggest example was the you
know polling analysis in twenty twelve, which enraged when when
when Obama ended up winning that year, our readership was
furious with us and a lot of them left them
didn't come back. Yeah. Well, and I I said, we
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blew it. You know, we were doing that whole unskewed
the polls thing. Sure, and it turned out that the
polls really didn't need to be unskewed, but sometimes they do.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
You're sort of like, it's a it's a tough spot
to find yourself.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Sometimes the poles really are skewed well.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
And they have been right, they were before, they've been since.
But I've learned not to assert data that I don't
actually have. And you know, we were re manipulating the data,
assuming that had been manipulated in the first place, and
we were just flat out wrong, right, So I wrote
at least two, you know, apologies to readers for that,
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and I end up writing a book about that sort
of tangentially right, and you know, that was an enjoyable
experience too. But yeah, that would be one of the
bigger things that I've gotten wrong. And I mean, I
spent months getting that wrong, so you know, I should
own it since I spent months getting it wrong. I
put a lot of hard work into getting that wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Very fair though, I mean, again, I think that so
long ago, and I you know, there's been again opportunities
for the polls to be and skewed since then. But
it's very noble of you to take that blame responsibility,
however you want to say it.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
You know how noble it is when it's really patently
obvious to everybody and you're just owning up.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You can let people forget it. Nobody will ever, you know, Well, yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, I guess, yeah, I mean, but I mean you asked,
And so that's a pretty good example of it. I've
gotten factually thinking things factually incorrect that on a couple
of occasions, I negated the entire point of a post
that I wrote from which point you just put, you know, update,
I got this wrong. Everything below here is no sense
you know you got that?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, yeah, And so the beauty of blogging versus publishing
in a newspaper right there.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Though, right right, you know. And honestly, I've gotten columns
early on. I think I got one really wrong for
The New York Sun, and I I actually just quit
writing the column. I was so embarrassed by it. And
this is early in my blogging career. Yeah, they didn't
ask me to stop. They were kind of unhappy with
the fact that I'd gotten something pretty significantly wrong. It
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colored the conclusion of the whole point of my column,
and I wrote back, and I, you know, it was
abjectly apology, you know, abjectly apologizing for it. And they
were nice about it. This is not The New York
Sun's issue. But I was so embarrassed by that it
just I just decided I didn't want to write a
column for a while, and later on I picked up
I picked up columns.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Down the road, so too good.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
What advice would you give your fifteen year old self
for sixteen year old self.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Oh, my goodness, you know, I have a joke answer
for that, which is to stay, which is to say,
either be a left handed relief pitcher or a police
kicker for football, because you can. You can. You can
spend twenty years doing that in your uniform will never
get dirty.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
But I feel like you like getting your uniform dirty.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I know I do kind of even back in those days.
I kind of like getting the uniform dirty, you know,
you know. And then the obvious answer is finished college,
which I didn't do.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I don't think I would have listened to that, though,
because that was the same advice that my dad was
giving me constantly during that same period. I was and
I've written about that a couple times. I think at
hot air, and I think that if I was, you know,
to seriously address this question, what I would say is one,
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connect to your faith, because God is going to be
very important to you, and the sooner you connect to that,
the better off you're going to be. And the second
thing would be I would say, don't And this is
something I've told people. There's two things to remember in life.
It's never as bad as it seems, and it's never
as good as it seems. And you know, when you're
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sixteen years old, you're going to spend the next ten
years going through really difficult highs and lows. And you
look back and you go, why was I you know,
why was I despairing over that situation sort of thing?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
And the moment it's everything.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
It's everything, and that's part of just growing up to
you just learn that. And I don't think I don't
think you can hear that advice, and sure anybody actually
pay attention to it, even if it's coming from your
older self. But I mean, those are the things I
think that I would actually say to myself back then.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Got it or youth in general.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Right, It's like yeah, youth in general.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, what would have.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Been your like plan B had this not worked out,
had you started writing and it didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I think it just stayed with the call center job.
I actually liked the company I was working for it.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I'm so creative, like I feel like, I guess I
imagine you would have done something else creative.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Well, I mean, I guess I was thinking in terms
of career. But yeah, you know, if the blogging thing
hadn't worked out, you know, I'm I would never have
gotten a chance to write the book I did. Maybe
I would have improved myself to the point where I
could actually write a book that would actually get published.
But I don't know that that's the case. I think
that if the blogging thing hadn't worked out, it might
have been sort of a well, you know, the writing
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thing is not going to work out. I need to
focus on the you know, on the blessings that I
have in my life right now, just and just go
forward with that. So but I mean, it's been a
huge blessing. The blogging thing has been such a huge
blessing for me. Yeah, I can't imagine being without the
stuff that the experiences of the last twenty twine years.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Right, do you ever think about like the people getting
into writing now or like trying to do what we
do without the blogging world.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I don't know what to suggest to them a lot
of the time. I mean, I say, be on X,
you know, engage, be interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
But the blogging world really did provide the path in
a way that it just doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Well, I think it's a ground floor situation. It's an
emergency emerging industry. I mean, we didn't think about this
all that much in that YO time.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
We were thinking about how do we make this profitable?
But we weren't thinking like how do we become professional writers?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
As I wasn't right and exactly and you know, honestly,
I thought the path would be more to radio, which
I still do, you know, but I don't do it
on a regular base this right, I.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Guess it came late to all this, the starting podcasts
and well, I don't know as of spades. And I
had a podcast in yeah, two thousand and five, two
thousand and five, so twenty years ago, Hoist the Black Flag.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
But you know it was an internet radio show.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Well, and I had one back in two thousand and seven,
and we've been doing it ever since at hot Air, Right.
But I think that the problem is is that it
became an industry and so the barrier to entry is
higher than it was when you and I were doing
this twenty one. Yeah, and that's the reason why I
mentioned substack. I think subtech is a really good platform.
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It's kind of like what Blogger was before Google bought it, right, Yeah,
It's a it's a low investment, entry level way to
establish your voice and then you can compete in the
marketplace of ideas against places like hot air and red
State and all the other all the other different phones
(22:00):
out there. You have to know how to market and
that was something I think that you know, people would
ask me come out and talk about how how people
get started blogging this. You know, this would be like
an AFP type of thing, you know, go to AFP
conventions or whatever you call them, and I'd say, you
have to be serious about it. You have to know
(22:20):
what your market is, you have to know who the
players are. You have to engage the players so that
they'll engage you back. And you can't just send out,
you know, mass emails to everybody in creation because nobody
reads those things. You know, you have to engage people.
I always felt like I was delivering as sort of
the mechanics of multi level marketing talking about the actual writing,
(22:41):
because you have to assume the writing. The idea is
how do you make your writing work? And and so, yeah,
I think that that's still possible, makes it more possible
than it was. But yeah, it's it's hard to crack now.
It's so it's so professionalized now that that it's it's
(23:01):
tougher to crack. I don't envy the people who are
trying to come into this and something. You start looking
at what's going to be the next thing. And for
a while, it was X. For a while, it was TikTok,
it was Facebook for a while until Facebook cracked down
on the speech stuff. And now they've light up on that.
But I don't think people are going to trust Facebook
as a platform anymore to do that type of work.
So I don't know, I don't know what it's so tough,
(23:23):
you know.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I remember back then somebody would leave a comment on
my blood, you know, on a post I wrote, and
I would go look at their blog and look at
what they're writing.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And that's how you know you found new writers. You
don't really have that anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I mean, I guess now if somebody like tweets at
you or whatever it's called now, but and maybe says
something interesting, then you go to their page and you
look at it.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
But even that I click over a lot less often.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, I don't think so. I think I just look
at their at their at their Twitter string, right, I
don't know that I click over sometimes.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I no, I mean that their Twitter stream. I don't
even click over to their Twitter stream anymore. Like I
think maybe like once in a while, if the if
their tweet at me really grabs me, then okay, I'll
go look at their profile page.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
But you know, Rare, I think you're right.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
I think it's it's not the same type of thing
because I think back in those days again, less of
an industry, more as a collegial collection of hobbyists.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, that's what we are getting together at like seapack
can neither.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Seapack or you know, the sidelines or anything. Really.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
The RNC convention in New York two thousand and four
was a big one. Yeah, well, I miss seeing you around,
you know. I think we need to get that these
going again where we run into each other at different events,
and I've loved the opportunity to talk to you today
because you know, I think you're just fantastic.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
We're going to take a quick break and be right
back on the Carol Marcowitch Show and us here with
your best tip for my listeners on how they can
improve their lives.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
How they can improve their lives. I feel very I
don't feel qualified to tell them, but I will. I
will say this, which is that you have to be
true to yourself. And by that, I don't mean that
you have to be selfish, but I think you have
to know who you are in order to be truly
good to others. And I think only by being truly
(25:21):
good to others are you going to improve your life.
Because the more you're focused on yourself, the worse your
life is going to get over the long period of time.
So know yourself, connect with people on the knowledge of
who you are, and I think that improves everything.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Here is Ed Morriscy check him out on hot air
dot com. You are just fantastic, So nice to see you.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Thank you, Carol, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Thanks so much for joining us on The Carol Marcowich Show.
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