December 20, 2024 • 28 mins
In this episode, Justine Brooke Murray shares her unique journey from being a beauty queen to becoming a political commentator. She discusses her experiences with cancel culture during her college years, her reflections on aging and family, and her confrontations with anti-Semitism. Justine also highlights the differences in community safety between states and offers valuable life advice, emphasizing the importance of speaking up and seizing opportunities. The Karol Markowicz Show is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Wednesday & Friday.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hi, Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.
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and Thursday. The only day you don't get me is Monday.
A question that I've been asked more than once now is.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
This, Hi, Carol?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I love your monologues. I have two kids, sixteen and fourteen.
There are good kids, but rebelling against what we've been
teaching them at home. We're still hopeful that our values
will translate as they get older, but sometimes it seems
like they are challenging us just for the sake of it.
How do you know your children won't rebel from what
you teach them? Well, I definitely don't know that, and
(00:55):
I imagine they will rebel at various points in their lives.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
They already do so.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Some times my fourteen year old challenges things I say.
Often it's actually worse for me when she doesn't challenge
what I say. But I can tell she disagrees. It's
far better to have the lines of communication open. I
guess the thing with kids is that, of course they're
going to go on their own path, and even the
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things they might want for themselves could not turn out
as planned. So if my kids decide they don't want
to get married and have children, if they end up
being woke leftists with bad ideals, I'll love them and
embrace them all the same. And if things don't work
out the way that they want them to say that
they do want marriage and children, but it just doesn't
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happen for them, I'll do my best to try to
help them and support them in whatever way I can.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And look, I'll be surprised.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
If they go against everything that we've talked about in
our home throughout their lives, but I'll understand that it's
their life to live. Beyond that, I think it's important
to Understan and the teenagers are trying on personalities. I
remember living in Scotland when I was nineteen and being
really irolly about America. It was just so uncool, man.
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But by the second time I lived in Scotland at
twenty one, I was already different and defensive of my
home country. I remember telling a French guy who was
talking smack about America that he'd be speaking German if
it wasn't for us. I was over the America hatred,
although it really did grip me for a moment there.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
You also have.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
To just let these kids go through their phases and
hope that they'll come out right on the other side.
All of this said, it's important to keep talking to
them and laying down that foundation that we talk about
on here. Do it often. Yes, your kids may be
totally different from you and end up not sharing your values,
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but don't let that be because you didn't talk about
those values or try to impart what was important coming
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(04:29):
on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
My guest today is Justine Brooke Marie.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
She's the MRCTV host and blogger. Hi, Justine, so nice
to have you on.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Hey, Carol, thank you so much for having me so.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
As I was looking into for this interview, I discovered
that you had kind of an unusual past here. You
were a beauty queen.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I am you I I'm Beauty Queen or where is it?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I was Miss Central Jersey in Missy Jersey competition this
past year.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Every year I win a local title and.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Then there's the state competition, and every candidate has to
compete with a platform or a community cause minds on
free speech.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Some people say maybe in.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Order to win the state title, I tod which to.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Like environmentalism right clogori changed mental health LGB alphabet. That's great.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
How did you get into that?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
When I was in high school, it was we're all
for a couple of days because it was a snowstorm.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It was very depressing, and I was a little bit bored.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
And I had a friend who she was Miss teen Jersey, USA,
and she was a little bit older than me, and
I asked my mom, hey, this sounds really fun. And
I originally joined as a teenager for this idea of
the glitz and the glamour and my mother, who let
me do acting all those years. At first, she was
a little bit against it because she knew really know
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what she was getting herself or me as a kid
or a young adult at the time into. But it
turned out to be something entirely different because the organization.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I joined Miss America.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
It's the oldest competition in this country. It's it's an
iconic competition. It devolved, not devolved, It was evolved into
more about showcasing your talent, showcasing how well rounded young
women can become.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
So it was a little bit of a boot camp.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I found it into becoming a young adult member of
society and eventually into my career as a political commentator
and professional cavechure.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
That's that's very interesting, Like would you recommend it to
young people, like younger people to get into that?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Is that? Like?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Do you consider it a positive?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Certainly, there's I've had a wonderful time, a wonderful about
ten years of an experience in the pageant world, and
of course it comes with its ups and downs because
you have to get comfortable with a lot of rejection
and a lot of losing. But I consider it a girls'
version of football.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Football is to.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Guys as the pageant world is to girls.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
And you're actually less likely to have a daughter compete
in Miss America than you would have a son compete
in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Of course, Yeah, that makes sense. How did you become
a political commentator when I was.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
In high school. It seems everything started for me.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I think that's in high school good, and not a
lot of people have that early start. I feel like
a lot of the stories on this show are like,
I don't know. And then I was thirty and I
sort of.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Fell into this exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I was dragged around by my parents actually to local
New Jersey political events because they were involved in very
local politics. But I saw how my school, even then,
this was back in twenty thirteen, twenty sixteen, this was
when cancel culture and wokeness really became popular, and I
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saw how you really.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Couldn't say anything.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Even back then, I was always an advocate for free speech.
I come from a family who they all we love
to do is yeah. My mom she's a stereotypical Jewish lawyer,
so she likes to complain and argue. And my dad
he's Irish, so he's loud. So we are very politically
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incorrect in my family. And when I attended high school
and was told you couldn't say this, this, and this,
we were pulled into diversity meetings, it really marked a
turning point for me, and it made me a campus
activist during my years in college, I became a free
speech advocate, and my reporting on my school's violation of
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the First Amendment got me invited to stand next to
President Trump at the time when he signed an executive
order defending free speech on campus.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And did that make you very popular in the blue
state of New Jersey.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Nope, it made me even more unpopular at my college
at Syracuse University, where I was met with my own professors,
they sent me very not so nice messages. They posted
about me on their Facebook pages, people came up to
me on campus. I was surrounded by mobs because I
was trying to cover more of these BLM style, mostly
(09:36):
peaceful protests. Right this started even before twenty twenty. My
university was kind of a precursor to what we saw
in twenty twenty, or at least for me, it was
foreshadowing that because I saw it on a smaller scale
on my campus and then it just completely blew up
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nationally after the whole George Floyd debacle.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Interesting, so I didn't realize that there were these BLM protests.
I mean, I heard of the organization before, but I
didn't realize they were active before George Floyd.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Yep, they were pretty active even when I was in
high school. I'm trying to remember the first the whole
police debate, the police shooting.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I think it was Trayeon Martin.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
When I was in high school, that was the big
popular thing to be outraged over. And it was actually
the first time I was canceled. In twenty sixteen. It
was my senior year of high school. And this was
also when clown costumes were being canceled on Halloween, because all.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Costumes, really I remember no one of being canceled exactly.
Everything's cultural proporation.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Clowns were bad because some stupid kids were dressing up
as clowns and scaring kids.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Other kids on Halloween.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
So I dressed up as a clown for the Halloween
parade that year, and I held up a sign that
said clown lives. Everything was everything was behind high school.
This was in high school and you.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Still got to go to college.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I know. I was a little bit surprised because I
thought in the moment, I thought, oh no.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Like this might this might be it. This an entire school.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Even the teachers gathered around in diversity meetings for that
whole week.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
This was after I won. They gave me the scariest
Halloween costume award.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
The same teachers who reward me with that the next
day because some kid posted some blm docs like posts
about me and my family my mom my pageant. Suddenly
the same people who thought it was funny the next
day they were outraged.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Right, that's how communism works. You get each other into
line very quickly.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
But I learned at a young age how how scary
at the time cancel culture can be. But then I
learned that instead of apologizing or instead of freaking out
or going oh my god, oh my god, I'm sorry,
or ending everything you're doing, you have to just wait
it out for a week, right, or a couple of days, and.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
They move on to canceling someone else. Somebody else becomes
the main character in their lives.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
So exactly.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah, President Trump won but his first term the next week,
so everything turned out fine.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Do you sense any optimism that any of this is
going away now? I feel like there's an optimism in
the air across the country with this second Trump win.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Where I don't think I felt it.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I mean, it definitely didn't feel in twenty sixteen or
in twenty twenty but it seems like the you know,
no more bs is sort of the line of the day,
and that people are like, this is not going to
go on anymore. You're not going to get to cancel help.
You know, high schoolstudents who were clown costume anymore.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Very optimistic, and I think it shows with the Daniel
Penny verdict. I really believe that, you know, our activist
DA and all of our activist lawmakers in our blue
cities are suddenly realizing that people.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Are fed up BLM.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I love the fact that on social media they're getting
ratio in every tweet their official page. And to think
that would happen in twenty white right when that was
the only ideology you could publicly express was support for
blam for this cult for what became a money laundering
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terrorist organization. And remember I remember being so afraid back.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
In twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I think at that point I had reached maybe the
third time I was people were trying to cancel me
for something.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I always get canceled on a holiday.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
I was canceled on two Thanksgivings for an anti indigenous post.
They'll just look for anything, and particularly times when people
just want to enjoy the holidays. I think the entire
goal of cancel culture is just to stamp out any
fun and laughter and smiles. But I was scared at
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the time, and now looking back, I laugh a little bit,
and I wish I could tell myself and anybody who
was canceled in twenty twenty, just hold it out. Tides
are going to turn, and surely they're turning.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
What do you worry about getting older?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
It's not that bad, I hear my grandma always tells me,
never get old, never get old.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I think, thank you, Grandma, thank you for that lovely advice.
You know, I'll tell my kids it beats the alternative,
you know.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
So that's that's true. That's a positive way to look
at it. And with that, I guess becoming older, becoming older,
you gain more experience, life experience.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I would love to have a family someday.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I guess my fear about getting older is getting older
without being able to do the things that I would
love to do. And with that being said, my parents
they had me when they were a little bit older,
so I worry about not being able to spend time
with them anymore.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Their knock on wood, their good shape.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I wouldn't want to jinx that, but my family is
my life. And to get older and to see the
people who've taken care of you your entire life now
you have to take care of them you bring you
have all this new responsibility on yourself, and the tides
kind of turn.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
That does give me a little bit of anxiety.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, and I get that since October seventh, you've been
really outspoken. I think that that's been sort of where
I I mean, I knew who you were before, but
I think I mostly heard from you since then.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
What you know, what kind of changed you since then?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
That's a great question I always thought, and I mostly
faced anti semitism from the left. But one major lesson
I've learned is that anti Semitism, it really knows no
political party. Unfortunately, one political party, the Democrat Party and.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
The left as a whole.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
They mainstreamed it the mean and with that goes the
mainstream media. But anti Semitism is the oldest hatred in
the book, and it's such an interrrational hatred. And to
have known so many friends who have suddenly stopped talking
to me, or turned on me, or.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Turned on the Jewish people, or I even have some.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Friends who have said, oh, I still love you, Justine,
just like not, you know, not the other Jews to
face something that my mother had had faced when she
was young and she was growing up in school, and
to hear from my mom, you know, you might want
to tuck your star of David in on the subways.
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In fact, that's all she told me every day before
I went to work. I commuted in this city to
the city from New Jersey when October seventh happens, and
my mom scolded me every day, saying, tuck your star in.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I don't want you to get hurt.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
And I was a little bit angry because I thought,
wait a minute, I'm not going why are we Why
are we cave into this?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Why are we letting in the city of all places exactly.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Why are we letting the people who want us to
live in fear live in fear. I'm a very stubborn person,
and I think it's because of my dad's Irish roots.
Jos are pretty stubborn too, It's true, we're very so
it feels like a good combination. And to this day,
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my mom always says be careful. But she's a stereotypical
neurotic Jewish mother. She's never been to Israel. I'm the
first person in my immediate family to go to Israel.
And then I went again after October seventh to tour
the carnage. And I remember my mom, Oh, my god,
when I told her that I was going to Israel,
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she freaked out, Oh, You're gonna get kidnapped. I heard everything,
every fear coming from her.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And I remember one day.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Waking up in my hotel room five in the morning,
Israel time to a call for my mom and she goes,
are you in Egypt? No, Mom, I'm I'm in Jerusalem
with my roommate. And this was because she forced me
to share my location with her.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
She still has my location all these months later.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
But Joel was scrambling the GPS. I know, yeah, when
I was there in the march, they, like my think,
kept saying I was in Lebanon. Yeah, so, Shane's why
you took a side trip to Egypt.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
She thought that someone kidnapped me. I remember when she
was on the phone. At least it wasn't Lebanon, because
that's even more frightening, right right, If my mom thought.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I was in Lebanon, I think she would fly over
and it would be what's that what's that movie with
Liam Neeson? Uh taken. Yeah, she would would feel like
mother to the rescue. Uh.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
And I heard my father in the back of the
phone call in the background.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Calm down, June, June, calm down, calm down.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
My mom was flipping out. But it's scary. It's people
don't realize Israel right now, especially, is actually much safer
than the New York subways right well.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
That that's something that's always so interesting in Israel is
that you do have this little sense of safety when
you're actually there.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
But from Afar, it.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Seems like a country constantly under siege, which in a
lot of ways it is. But New York City is
actually Brooklyn specifically the number one place where Jews are
targeted for violent attacks.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I want to say in the world.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I know for sure in the country, but I believe
I saw a stat that had Brooklyn as number one
in the world of where.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Jews are attacked physically. So it's not crazy that.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Your mom would be worried about your wearing the Jewish
star on the subway. It's just depressing because New York,
I mean, I'm from New York. It was always a
place where Jews thrived, and obviously in the last few years,
and I started writing about this, you know, way before
October seventh.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I mean, it was so obvious that it was.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
It was getting bad for years and years and years,
even before the pandemic. But I think now, you know,
it's not a crazy thing to say. The thing is,
I would wear my star and I don't care and
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Tucking it in.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
But if my daughter is taking the subway, I don't know.
I think I would say tucking your star, because it's different.
I don't care about myself nearly as much as I
care about her.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm sure it's the same for your mom.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
It makes complete sense, and it's it's also a reason,
as you have, why my mother would like to move
to Florida and make the right of the right of passage.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
The other promised land.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yep, it's tough because I fallen in love with the Northeast,
always be a Jersey girl, and I work in the
DC area now, But Florida, Florida is the Promised Land
and it must be hopefully, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
A lot safer being able to work a.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Different universe of safety. It's just it's not so much
like you said.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
You know, at one point you said into Semitism, it
doesn't belong to one party, you know, I kind of
do I agree that. I think Democrats have mainstreamed it.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
But obviously there are anti Semites everywhere. I'm not going
to say there are no jew haters.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
In Blood that's crazy, but they don't stand for it here.
It's not the hatred that we all should be worried about.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
It's the reaction.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
It's when Jews started getting beat up on the streets
of Brooklyn, no one cared, Like the mayor would be like, hey,
has no home here, and that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Would be it.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And even the Jewish communities like the it was happening
to orthodox Jews, but the secular Jewish communities that could
not possibly care less about it. They thought it just
didn't apply to them. So it's the reaction that we
need to be watching for. And in Florida, the reaction
is absolutely not. We're not standing for that here. The
Hamasnik protests in the street, absolutely not blocking highways. They
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made it like seven minutes one day in Orlando and
everybody got arrested. It's just it's a different universe of
kind of consequences.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
And it's thanks to your wonderful governor. He's pretty great.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Yeah, I love that, and it's it's pretty funny and
depressing to see, as we've known forever, the.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Oh so tolerant left claiming, oh, our blue cities are.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Such safe spaces, and then they issued.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
A safety hazard for Florida because you know, changing your
gender at six years old and getting mutilated wasn't. We
weren't going to stand for that, So that made things
unsafe because not affirming your mental illness is that is
a dangerous hazard.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
But it's okay to pummel Jews in the street, in
the safe space known as New York.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, and I went through the numbers.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
It's it's far.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Worse and blue areas and they say like, oh, it's
because Jews live in blue areas.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I compared like New Hampshire to Mississippi, for example, and
New Hampshire had far worse rates of anti Semitism, you know, incidents,
So it's not at all just where Jews live.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
It's happening in plenty of blue.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
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protect what matters most. So you're pretty young, But what
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advice would you give your sixteen year old self? Like,
what would a sixteen year old Justine need to know?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
So I would say three things. The first thing is
life is too short. Speak now or forever hold your piece.
And I wish that I was a little bit pushier
on things. People always say that O cliche goes uh
is uh. Good things come to those who wait. But
(25:53):
I would tell my sixteen year old self, good things
come to those who are moderately pushy.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
You have to ask for them.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
And I wish that I kept relationships with friends and
I didn't have so much pride to apologize to friends
when I was wrong, or to at least keep in
touch with people with.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Whom I disagree.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
My uncle recently was diagnosed with a stage four type
of lung cancer.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Thank you and knock on wood.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I think he's going to be okay.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I hope he seems a.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Lot better than I thought he did initially initially, but
he completely disagrees with me on politics.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
He is on the left.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
The one thing we agree on is the right to
free speech.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
So I wish that instead of arguing with him so
much at family holidays, maybe we could reconcile. But then
that being said, I think when I argue with him,
it keeps him alive.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I like that, uncle, I am keeping you alive by
arguing with you exactly he I think he's feel like
I hope.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
He feels the same way. I hope so too, unless
I'm annoying him to death.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah bit, yes.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Well this has been great and us here with your
best tip for my listeners on how they can improve
their lives.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
One small tip is that, especially for ladies, the ladies
room is not the place to share your secrets because
there's always a jenta sitting in the stall over that
I've experienced. That also, if for everybody, if you're going
to make a big decision, and you were asked to
(27:38):
make a decision, let's say at nighttime, wait until the
morning when you have a clear head.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
If you want to send an email to someone.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Or a tweet and you're high on emotions, wait until
you have a clear head in the morning. And then
I would also say to everybody what I would have
said to my sixteen year old self is life is
too short to be offended. Also, it's okay to be
moderately pushy, ask for the things you want. Don't wait
on something, and that's after I just said wait on
(28:10):
sending an email, but of course.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I mean significently.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, don't wait to take an opportunity, right.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Well, don't gossip in restrooms, sleep on it, and be pushy.
Those are three really good pieces of advice. She is
Justine Brooke Murray. She's MRCTV host and blogger. Check her out.
Thank you so much, Justine, Thank you, it was great
speaking with you. Thanks so much for joining us on
the Carol Marco which show. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.
Hi, Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.
The Carol Markowitz Show now airs Wednesdays and Fridays, So
you get this non political podcast, the Carol Marcowitz Show,
where I interview political people about non political topics on
Wednesday and Friday, and then you get normally the political
podcast I co host with Mary Catherine Ham every Tuesday
(00:24):
and Thursday. The only day you don't get me is Monday.
A question that I've been asked more than once now is.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
This, Hi, Carol?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I love your monologues. I have two kids, sixteen and fourteen.
There are good kids, but rebelling against what we've been
teaching them at home. We're still hopeful that our values
will translate as they get older, but sometimes it seems
like they are challenging us just for the sake of it.
How do you know your children won't rebel from what
you teach them? Well, I definitely don't know that, and
(00:55):
I imagine they will rebel at various points in their lives.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
They already do so.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Some times my fourteen year old challenges things I say.
Often it's actually worse for me when she doesn't challenge
what I say. But I can tell she disagrees. It's
far better to have the lines of communication open. I
guess the thing with kids is that, of course they're
going to go on their own path, and even the
(01:21):
things they might want for themselves could not turn out
as planned. So if my kids decide they don't want
to get married and have children, if they end up
being woke leftists with bad ideals, I'll love them and
embrace them all the same. And if things don't work
out the way that they want them to say that
they do want marriage and children, but it just doesn't
(01:42):
happen for them, I'll do my best to try to
help them and support them in whatever way I can.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And look, I'll be surprised.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
If they go against everything that we've talked about in
our home throughout their lives, but I'll understand that it's
their life to live. Beyond that, I think it's important
to Understan and the teenagers are trying on personalities. I
remember living in Scotland when I was nineteen and being
really irolly about America. It was just so uncool, man.
(02:11):
But by the second time I lived in Scotland at
twenty one, I was already different and defensive of my
home country. I remember telling a French guy who was
talking smack about America that he'd be speaking German if
it wasn't for us. I was over the America hatred,
although it really did grip me for a moment there.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
You also have.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
To just let these kids go through their phases and
hope that they'll come out right on the other side.
All of this said, it's important to keep talking to
them and laying down that foundation that we talk about
on here. Do it often. Yes, your kids may be
totally different from you and end up not sharing your values,
(02:51):
but don't let that be because you didn't talk about
those values or try to impart what was important coming
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(04:29):
on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
My guest today is Justine Brooke Marie.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
She's the MRCTV host and blogger. Hi, Justine, so nice
to have you on.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Hey, Carol, thank you so much for having me so.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
As I was looking into for this interview, I discovered
that you had kind of an unusual past here. You
were a beauty queen.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I am you I I'm Beauty Queen or where is it?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I was Miss Central Jersey in Missy Jersey competition this
past year.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Every year I win a local title and.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Then there's the state competition, and every candidate has to
compete with a platform or a community cause minds on
free speech.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Some people say maybe in.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Order to win the state title, I tod which to.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Like environmentalism right clogori changed mental health LGB alphabet. That's great.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
How did you get into that?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
When I was in high school, it was we're all
for a couple of days because it was a snowstorm.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It was very depressing, and I was a little bit bored.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
And I had a friend who she was Miss teen Jersey, USA,
and she was a little bit older than me, and
I asked my mom, hey, this sounds really fun. And
I originally joined as a teenager for this idea of
the glitz and the glamour and my mother, who let
me do acting all those years. At first, she was
a little bit against it because she knew really know
(06:00):
what she was getting herself or me as a kid
or a young adult at the time into. But it
turned out to be something entirely different because the organization.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I joined Miss America.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
It's the oldest competition in this country. It's it's an
iconic competition. It devolved, not devolved, It was evolved into
more about showcasing your talent, showcasing how well rounded young
women can become.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
So it was a little bit of a boot camp.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I found it into becoming a young adult member of
society and eventually into my career as a political commentator
and professional cavechure.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
That's that's very interesting, Like would you recommend it to
young people, like younger people to get into that?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Is that? Like?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Do you consider it a positive?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Certainly, there's I've had a wonderful time, a wonderful about
ten years of an experience in the pageant world, and
of course it comes with its ups and downs because
you have to get comfortable with a lot of rejection
and a lot of losing. But I consider it a girls'
version of football.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Football is to.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Guys as the pageant world is to girls.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
And you're actually less likely to have a daughter compete
in Miss America than you would have a son compete
in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Of course, Yeah, that makes sense. How did you become
a political commentator when I was.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
In high school. It seems everything started for me.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I think that's in high school good, and not a
lot of people have that early start. I feel like
a lot of the stories on this show are like,
I don't know. And then I was thirty and I
sort of.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Fell into this exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I was dragged around by my parents actually to local
New Jersey political events because they were involved in very
local politics. But I saw how my school, even then,
this was back in twenty thirteen, twenty sixteen, this was
when cancel culture and wokeness really became popular, and I
(08:13):
saw how you really.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Couldn't say anything.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Even back then, I was always an advocate for free speech.
I come from a family who they all we love
to do is yeah. My mom she's a stereotypical Jewish lawyer,
so she likes to complain and argue. And my dad
he's Irish, so he's loud. So we are very politically
(08:36):
incorrect in my family. And when I attended high school
and was told you couldn't say this, this, and this,
we were pulled into diversity meetings, it really marked a
turning point for me, and it made me a campus
activist during my years in college, I became a free
speech advocate, and my reporting on my school's violation of
(08:58):
the First Amendment got me invited to stand next to
President Trump at the time when he signed an executive
order defending free speech on campus.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And did that make you very popular in the blue
state of New Jersey.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Nope, it made me even more unpopular at my college
at Syracuse University, where I was met with my own professors,
they sent me very not so nice messages. They posted
about me on their Facebook pages, people came up to
me on campus. I was surrounded by mobs because I
was trying to cover more of these BLM style, mostly
(09:36):
peaceful protests. Right this started even before twenty twenty. My
university was kind of a precursor to what we saw
in twenty twenty, or at least for me, it was
foreshadowing that because I saw it on a smaller scale
on my campus and then it just completely blew up
(09:57):
nationally after the whole George Floyd debacle.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Interesting, so I didn't realize that there were these BLM protests.
I mean, I heard of the organization before, but I
didn't realize they were active before George Floyd.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Yep, they were pretty active even when I was in
high school. I'm trying to remember the first the whole
police debate, the police shooting.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I think it was Trayeon Martin.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
When I was in high school, that was the big
popular thing to be outraged over. And it was actually
the first time I was canceled. In twenty sixteen. It
was my senior year of high school. And this was
also when clown costumes were being canceled on Halloween, because all.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Costumes, really I remember no one of being canceled exactly.
Everything's cultural proporation.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Clowns were bad because some stupid kids were dressing up
as clowns and scaring kids.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Other kids on Halloween.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
So I dressed up as a clown for the Halloween
parade that year, and I held up a sign that
said clown lives. Everything was everything was behind high school.
This was in high school and you.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Still got to go to college.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I know. I was a little bit surprised because I
thought in the moment, I thought, oh no.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Like this might this might be it. This an entire school.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Even the teachers gathered around in diversity meetings for that
whole week.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
This was after I won. They gave me the scariest
Halloween costume award.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
The same teachers who reward me with that the next
day because some kid posted some blm docs like posts
about me and my family my mom my pageant. Suddenly
the same people who thought it was funny the next
day they were outraged.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Right, that's how communism works. You get each other into
line very quickly.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
But I learned at a young age how how scary
at the time cancel culture can be. But then I
learned that instead of apologizing or instead of freaking out
or going oh my god, oh my god, I'm sorry,
or ending everything you're doing, you have to just wait
it out for a week, right, or a couple of days, and.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
They move on to canceling someone else. Somebody else becomes
the main character in their lives.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
So exactly.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah, President Trump won but his first term the next week,
so everything turned out fine.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Do you sense any optimism that any of this is
going away now? I feel like there's an optimism in
the air across the country with this second Trump win.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Where I don't think I felt it.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I mean, it definitely didn't feel in twenty sixteen or
in twenty twenty but it seems like the you know,
no more bs is sort of the line of the day,
and that people are like, this is not going to
go on anymore. You're not going to get to cancel help.
You know, high schoolstudents who were clown costume anymore.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Very optimistic, and I think it shows with the Daniel
Penny verdict. I really believe that, you know, our activist
DA and all of our activist lawmakers in our blue
cities are suddenly realizing that people.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Are fed up BLM.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I love the fact that on social media they're getting
ratio in every tweet their official page. And to think
that would happen in twenty white right when that was
the only ideology you could publicly express was support for
blam for this cult for what became a money laundering
(13:48):
terrorist organization. And remember I remember being so afraid back.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
In twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I think at that point I had reached maybe the
third time I was people were trying to cancel me
for something.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I always get canceled on a holiday.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
I was canceled on two Thanksgivings for an anti indigenous post.
They'll just look for anything, and particularly times when people
just want to enjoy the holidays. I think the entire
goal of cancel culture is just to stamp out any
fun and laughter and smiles. But I was scared at
(14:26):
the time, and now looking back, I laugh a little bit,
and I wish I could tell myself and anybody who
was canceled in twenty twenty, just hold it out. Tides
are going to turn, and surely they're turning.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
What do you worry about getting older?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
It's not that bad, I hear my grandma always tells me,
never get old, never get old.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I think, thank you, Grandma, thank you for that lovely advice.
You know, I'll tell my kids it beats the alternative,
you know.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
So that's that's true. That's a positive way to look
at it. And with that, I guess becoming older, becoming older,
you gain more experience, life experience.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I would love to have a family someday.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I guess my fear about getting older is getting older
without being able to do the things that I would
love to do. And with that being said, my parents
they had me when they were a little bit older,
so I worry about not being able to spend time
with them anymore.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Their knock on wood, their good shape.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I wouldn't want to jinx that, but my family is
my life. And to get older and to see the
people who've taken care of you your entire life now
you have to take care of them you bring you
have all this new responsibility on yourself, and the tides
kind of turn.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
That does give me a little bit of anxiety.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, and I get that since October seventh, you've been
really outspoken. I think that that's been sort of where
I I mean, I knew who you were before, but
I think I mostly heard from you since then.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
What you know, what kind of changed you since then?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
That's a great question I always thought, and I mostly
faced anti semitism from the left. But one major lesson
I've learned is that anti Semitism, it really knows no
political party. Unfortunately, one political party, the Democrat Party and.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
The left as a whole.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
They mainstreamed it the mean and with that goes the
mainstream media. But anti Semitism is the oldest hatred in
the book, and it's such an interrrational hatred. And to
have known so many friends who have suddenly stopped talking
to me, or turned on me, or.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Turned on the Jewish people, or I even have some.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Friends who have said, oh, I still love you, Justine,
just like not, you know, not the other Jews to
face something that my mother had had faced when she
was young and she was growing up in school, and
to hear from my mom, you know, you might want
to tuck your star of David in on the subways.
(17:20):
In fact, that's all she told me every day before
I went to work. I commuted in this city to
the city from New Jersey when October seventh happens, and
my mom scolded me every day, saying, tuck your star in.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I don't want you to get hurt.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
And I was a little bit angry because I thought,
wait a minute, I'm not going why are we Why
are we cave into this?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Why are we letting in the city of all places exactly.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Why are we letting the people who want us to
live in fear live in fear. I'm a very stubborn person,
and I think it's because of my dad's Irish roots.
Jos are pretty stubborn too, It's true, we're very so
it feels like a good combination. And to this day,
(18:06):
my mom always says be careful. But she's a stereotypical
neurotic Jewish mother. She's never been to Israel. I'm the
first person in my immediate family to go to Israel.
And then I went again after October seventh to tour
the carnage. And I remember my mom, Oh, my god,
when I told her that I was going to Israel,
(18:27):
she freaked out, Oh, You're gonna get kidnapped. I heard everything,
every fear coming from her.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And I remember one day.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Waking up in my hotel room five in the morning,
Israel time to a call for my mom and she goes,
are you in Egypt? No, Mom, I'm I'm in Jerusalem
with my roommate. And this was because she forced me
to share my location with her.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
She still has my location all these months later.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
But Joel was scrambling the GPS. I know, yeah, when
I was there in the march, they, like my think,
kept saying I was in Lebanon. Yeah, so, Shane's why
you took a side trip to Egypt.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
She thought that someone kidnapped me. I remember when she
was on the phone. At least it wasn't Lebanon, because
that's even more frightening, right right, If my mom thought.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I was in Lebanon, I think she would fly over
and it would be what's that what's that movie with
Liam Neeson? Uh taken. Yeah, she would would feel like
mother to the rescue. Uh.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
And I heard my father in the back of the
phone call in the background.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Calm down, June, June, calm down, calm down.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
My mom was flipping out. But it's scary. It's people
don't realize Israel right now, especially, is actually much safer
than the New York subways right well.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
That that's something that's always so interesting in Israel is
that you do have this little sense of safety when
you're actually there.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
But from Afar, it.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Seems like a country constantly under siege, which in a
lot of ways it is. But New York City is
actually Brooklyn specifically the number one place where Jews are
targeted for violent attacks.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I want to say in the world.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I know for sure in the country, but I believe
I saw a stat that had Brooklyn as number one
in the world of where.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Jews are attacked physically. So it's not crazy that.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Your mom would be worried about your wearing the Jewish
star on the subway. It's just depressing because New York,
I mean, I'm from New York. It was always a
place where Jews thrived, and obviously in the last few years,
and I started writing about this, you know, way before
October seventh.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I mean, it was so obvious that it was.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
It was getting bad for years and years and years,
even before the pandemic. But I think now, you know,
it's not a crazy thing to say. The thing is,
I would wear my star and I don't care and
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Tucking it in.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
But if my daughter is taking the subway, I don't know.
I think I would say tucking your star, because it's different.
I don't care about myself nearly as much as I
care about her.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm sure it's the same for your mom.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
It makes complete sense, and it's it's also a reason,
as you have, why my mother would like to move
to Florida and make the right of the right of passage.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
The other promised land.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yep, it's tough because I fallen in love with the Northeast,
always be a Jersey girl, and I work in the
DC area now, But Florida, Florida is the Promised Land
and it must be hopefully, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
A lot safer being able to work a.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Different universe of safety. It's just it's not so much
like you said.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
You know, at one point you said into Semitism, it
doesn't belong to one party, you know, I kind of
do I agree that. I think Democrats have mainstreamed it.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
But obviously there are anti Semites everywhere. I'm not going
to say there are no jew haters.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
In Blood that's crazy, but they don't stand for it here.
It's not the hatred that we all should be worried about.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
It's the reaction.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
It's when Jews started getting beat up on the streets
of Brooklyn, no one cared, Like the mayor would be like, hey,
has no home here, and that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Would be it.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And even the Jewish communities like the it was happening
to orthodox Jews, but the secular Jewish communities that could
not possibly care less about it. They thought it just
didn't apply to them. So it's the reaction that we
need to be watching for. And in Florida, the reaction
is absolutely not. We're not standing for that here. The
Hamasnik protests in the street, absolutely not blocking highways. They
(22:38):
made it like seven minutes one day in Orlando and
everybody got arrested. It's just it's a different universe of
kind of consequences.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
And it's thanks to your wonderful governor. He's pretty great.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Yeah, I love that, and it's it's pretty funny and
depressing to see, as we've known forever, the.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Oh so tolerant left claiming, oh, our blue cities are.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Such safe spaces, and then they issued.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
A safety hazard for Florida because you know, changing your
gender at six years old and getting mutilated wasn't. We
weren't going to stand for that, So that made things
unsafe because not affirming your mental illness is that is
a dangerous hazard.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
But it's okay to pummel Jews in the street, in
the safe space known as New York.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, and I went through the numbers.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
It's it's far.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Worse and blue areas and they say like, oh, it's
because Jews live in blue areas.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I compared like New Hampshire to Mississippi, for example, and
New Hampshire had far worse rates of anti Semitism, you know, incidents,
So it's not at all just where Jews live.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
It's happening in plenty of blue.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Places more with Justine Brooke Murray coming up. But for
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what would a sixteen year old Justine need to know?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
So I would say three things. The first thing is
life is too short. Speak now or forever hold your piece.
And I wish that I was a little bit pushier
on things. People always say that O cliche goes uh
is uh. Good things come to those who wait. But
(25:53):
I would tell my sixteen year old self, good things
come to those who are moderately pushy.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
You have to ask for them.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
And I wish that I kept relationships with friends and
I didn't have so much pride to apologize to friends
when I was wrong, or to at least keep in
touch with people with.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Whom I disagree.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
My uncle recently was diagnosed with a stage four type
of lung cancer.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Thank you and knock on wood.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I think he's going to be okay.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I hope he seems a.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Lot better than I thought he did initially initially, but
he completely disagrees with me on politics.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
He is on the left.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
The one thing we agree on is the right to
free speech.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
So I wish that instead of arguing with him so
much at family holidays, maybe we could reconcile. But then
that being said, I think when I argue with him,
it keeps him alive.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I like that, uncle, I am keeping you alive by
arguing with you exactly he I think he's feel like
I hope.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
He feels the same way. I hope so too, unless
I'm annoying him to death.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah bit, yes.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Well this has been great and us here with your
best tip for my listeners on how they can improve
their lives.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
One small tip is that, especially for ladies, the ladies
room is not the place to share your secrets because
there's always a jenta sitting in the stall over that
I've experienced. That also, if for everybody, if you're going
to make a big decision, and you were asked to
(27:38):
make a decision, let's say at nighttime, wait until the
morning when you have a clear head.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
If you want to send an email to someone.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Or a tweet and you're high on emotions, wait until
you have a clear head in the morning. And then
I would also say to everybody what I would have
said to my sixteen year old self is life is
too short to be offended. Also, it's okay to be
moderately pushy, ask for the things you want. Don't wait
on something, and that's after I just said wait on
(28:10):
sending an email, but of course.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I mean significently.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, don't wait to take an opportunity, right.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Well, don't gossip in restrooms, sleep on it, and be pushy.
Those are three really good pieces of advice. She is
Justine Brooke Murray. She's MRCTV host and blogger. Check her out.
Thank you so much, Justine, Thank you, it was great
speaking with you. Thanks so much for joining us on
the Carol Marco which show. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.
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