All Episodes

May 10, 2023 27 mins

Tyler's cryptic message continues. Julien learns what became of his friend and picks up a new trail.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Maniwak Caves is intended for mature audiences. It contains
strong language and depictions of bullying, violence, and sexual assault
that some may find disturbing. Listener discretion is advised. Also,
this is an extremely immersive experience and headphones are recommended.
You're listening to The Maniwak Caves, a production of iHeartRadio,
Blumhouse Television and Psychopia Pictures.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
The Beasts of Dough to your mind, you have a
true of blood like the coosuit to leave the high
You keep screaming for how and what answer? Just a

(01:02):
busy si Jones?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Is it fas.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
When you.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Could?

Speaker 4 (01:15):
There be a killer inside?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
The truth has been locked up inside me, which brings
me to the next rule. Just because we don't remember
it doesn't mean it didn't happen, Julian. After what Deacon
and Thomas Hadley did to Dana and finishing what they
did to you in the library, what they spent their

(01:47):
whole lives doing to any kids who were smaller, were
different than them, I couldn't let those spoils shiit ads
get away with it anymore. It had gone too far.
It was time they got theirs, you know, it was
time for revenge. Hey, Tommy, where's your rakery? Brother?

Speaker 5 (02:15):
What the fuck did you just say?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Calm down, many chill you think I don't know what
you and your brother did to Dina? Mm hm what
don't worry, mante, It's all right. We ain't gonna tell.
We just want to give the Hadley brothers a taste
of their own medicine.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Fuck you you know?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Fuck me? Hold on that, Tommy, hold on. Like I said,
I talked to Dina and uh, she agreed, she ain't
gonna tell nobody. We just wanted to scare them.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
So so, what what do you want out of it?

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Well, me and Dana were like a an arrangement, so
speak mutual benefici. What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (03:13):
All right?

Speaker 3 (03:13):
So truth is she likes Deacon and she likes you too.
She told me said, you can do it with her
again if you want. But that shit ain't free, son
You want that, you gotta pay, and you gotta pay me.

(03:34):
It was my idea, lure them down in the caves,
get them lost, and watch them fall apart like the
cowards we knew they were. I had that Sony DV
handicam and we were gonna make them ship their pants
and videotapeic get footage of them crying and freaking out,
and then just blast that shit all over the web.

(03:55):
You so you're so full of shit mad? Maybe maybe not?
Look at you looking around. You don't got to believe me, Tommy,
But I know what I'll be doing Friday night out
by the caves. Do you anyway?

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Think it over?

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Get back with me? Think it over. I'd made up
that story about Tina. She didn't know anything about it.
I felt real bad about using her as bait more

(04:39):
than a prank, sure, but lesson murder.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
What the what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (04:57):
How far back do we gotta go?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Where is she?

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
I told you there's a spot right up here. No
one knows about it as part of the cave, and
you can't tell no one neither. Right this better and
be fucking legit, Tyler. You want your money back, huh?
Or you want to get late. I'm going first.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
It's only fair.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
I had the only flashlight. I just needed them to
follow me in deep enough so the when I cut
the flashlight out, they would be lost in complete darkness.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Fuck, I can't see shit all right? Way up man,
moving too fast? Bring the light back?

Speaker 3 (05:40):
I managed to get about twenty feet ahead of them
to where the last term was and I cut.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Off the light.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
What the fuck I can't see ibut you with that light, Taylor.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
If you don't get the fuck back here, I'm going
to fuck you up.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
It worked. Oh they were lost, lost in the caves
and near pitched black.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Let's get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
That way I hit say it, I don't know it.
It didn't take long for the claustrophobia to said the
threat slowed, wavered more of some confusion. Rage gave way
to panic, Panic gave way to tears, and then the
tears became he became screams echoing through the caves and

(06:33):
my nightmares. I've been haunted by Thomas and dickon a
Hadley screams ever since I woke up the next day, Saturday,

(06:55):
May nineteen, I couldn't remember anything about the night before,
remember anything about the prank. I woke up in my bed,
still in my clothes, which were drenched, my boots still
on beneath the sheets, cakes with fresh earth. You were
passed out on the floor next to me. I could
barely sit up, barely stand up. My lower back was

(07:17):
so stiff and sore. My legs were shaking and my
head was pounding. And Finch, we didn't even know where
hell he Finch was. Nobody did not even Dina any
of this coming back to you, Julian, and he showered
off from my place and hot tailed her back home.

(07:38):
After that, your dad was just about fit to kill you.
He always hated me, old Paul Sawace. He'd already decided
long before than anything bad that never happened was well
entirely my fault. I barely made it to graduation that day,
and I saw you through the crowd, and I wanted
to talk to you and start walking up with your father.

(08:00):
They're just stared me down, so I knew to keep
my distance. And you, you were changed, like soul had
already taken off, far away away from Pottsville, away from

(08:22):
Manawah County and it's people, it's monsters and the fog
of evil that hung all over it. And you had
made your mind to get out, but you wanted to
go to the caves one last time. I wanted to
go back to although I didn't know why. My mind

(08:42):
was still a blank. Today we found their bodies. They
found Finish a couple hours after that, out in the
woods not far from the caves, emaciated, hypothermic, couldn't speak,
and finally dead, he claimed, I couldn't remember anything, just

(09:03):
a missing chunk avoided time. As the years went by,
the dreams became more vivid, and it didn't always happen

(09:24):
at night either. I began losing time in the middle
of the day. At first, it was just that, just
missing gaps of time I'd come to in a place
I had no recollection of going to, in the middle
of doing things I had made no conscious decision to do.
And after a while it was in those moments, the
missing ones, that I began to remember. It started with

(09:48):
the whispers, voices, and the white noise and static of
everyday backgrounds. Then the vision started coming out to play flashes.
At first, the hadleys, their scowls, finches, face all lit
up while we made the plan. And you, Julie, you,

(10:09):
I saw you a lot. And then the images began
moving little picture shows. One by one, The memory of
that night pieced itself back together until I could remember
it as a whole, clear as belt, like it had
happened only moments before. It was a recording being played

(10:32):
for me in my brain. All those missing gaps started
filling themselves in. I wasn't sure if I was going
fucking crazy or what. It was only a couple of
years later, when I was moving out of my mom's
house that I found the plan. We had made, the
plot for revenge on Thomas and Deacon, and the physical map.

(10:52):
We had made a map of the caves, positions staked
out inside the caves, and X on the map up
at the third turn where we're planned to cut the
flashlight out.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Beside it.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
I'd ridden the point of darkness. Then the nightmares became worse.
I'd see visions of the caves, bones of small family
piled high in a dark corner somewhere, a boy taking

(11:34):
his own life in there, A man and a woman
making love against the rocks, only for him to slip
and fall moments later, the contents of his head spilling
out against the cave floor. I'd be laying in bed
at night and opened my eyes to find the Hadley
brothers standing over me. The young bodies.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Sure fine.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
The images of my mind began spilling over into the
physical world, manifesting as material objects. The night before I
went to visit bench on Death Road. They had been
stalking around my bedroom again. The spirits of Deacon and
Thomas had liver were.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Stalking me.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
I was laying in bed, my eyes squeeze shut as
tied as I can get them. But I knew they
were still there. I knew it. I could smell them
like ammonia, like back guano and dirt and algie on
wet rocks. Deacon headly leaned over me so close.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
I can feel his necklace.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
You know, the fucking one. He always used to wear
the fucking cross on a silver chain.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
He wore it every day.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
I could feel it, danklyn it gainst my chest. He
whoke me up, and I remember screaming, pushing his cold
ponting away from me.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Get away. You didn't do that for a very long time.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
About that.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
You never know if you need any help finding.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
ANYTHI I'm all good, thanks, just grabbing a couple of
bags of furtiluzer. When Jimmy Fincher broke into my place,
it must have scared them off, because when I opened
my eyes, Thomas and Deacon were gone, but Dickon's necklace
was dangling in my clutch fist. I stashed the necklace

(14:02):
in the bathroom medicine cabinet for safe keep him before
dealing with Jimmy or finnim Off. Rather, but that necklace
Julian Deacon was wearing. He was wearing it when we
lured him into the caves. I know he was. He
wore it every damn day. But by the time they
found the bodies, that necklace was nowhere to be found.

(14:23):
The caves took it and then they gave it to me.
It's still there in my medicine cabinet. You'll find it.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
Go look.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
You need yeah, uh, would you mind grabbing me one
of those little propane canisters too?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
That alre.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
You ever make a bomb, Julian, don't need much to
do it, You just need to know all the proper measurements. Yeah,
all right, where were we?

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Right?

Speaker 3 (15:24):
We never hung out again after that did with Julian.
That was the end of our boyhood. I remember the
last time I saw you before you fled Manhawah County.
It was in the sheriff station. I was sitting on
the bench in the hallway with my mother, waiting to
be interrogated by Hooper, and you were in the conference

(15:45):
room already I remember watching you through the glass and
Sheriff Hooper looming over you. He's leaning in, almost whispering
in your ear. I always wondered what he was saying
to you, that look on his face, the look he
always has about everything urgent. My gaze was broken when

(16:06):
your father just suddenly stormed past me. The air suddenly charged,
like the instant before a fight happens. I remember him
stomping into the bullpen, where's he?

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Where's my son?

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Then seeing you in the conference room with Hooper, he
stomped over and just pounded on the door, shaking the glass.
Even if Hooper was the king shit Sheriff of Manawac County,
he knew better than to come between Paul Solace and
his boy. Damn right. And that's when it happened, isn't it, Julian.

(16:47):
Your father made you do it, didn't He didn't. He
He knew it was wrong. He knew Finch would get
eaten alive by this racist shithole of a town. But
he had no other choice. H hold it was adder

(17:11):
lose his son. You were the only family he had left.
He knew if you didn't throw your poor strange, misunderstood
friend Finch under the bus that you would be charged
along with him. So he threatened you didn't he his
face all red, his thick hands on the back of
your neck, fingers shoved, and your face spittled from his

(17:33):
wet lips. See them with rage, but mostly just like
everyone else in man in Wak County, I could see
he was just so fucking terrified, and he knew the
only way to save you, Julian, was to make you
testify against James Ventcher. And you hated him for it.

(17:56):
Oh boy, did you hate him for it. Because if
you didn't hate him enough already, now you loathe him
even more. And if you lacked the courage to leave
Manawah County before, if you lacked that courage, shit.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Not no more.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Your daddy, Paul, he drove you away. Huh, lucky you.
I kept thinking about finching, how he didn't have anyone
like that, no one to storm in and rescue him,

(18:35):
no father to save him from himself. But you ran, Yeah,
you ran, ran from the fog and the ghosts of
Manwak County and ran for your life, or at least
with the hope of manufacturing a new one. Things quieted

(18:57):
down After that you went away, Fince got locked up,
life went on. But now you've come back fourteen fucking
years later. The caves let you go, but they were
never gonna let you stay gone never, And me I

(19:25):
stayed here this whole time, suspended in the fog. Sometimes
it feels like I went to sleep that.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Day and just never woke up.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
When this ain't a dream, Highness, sleep not yet.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
You have one message, hey manas Julian listen, I'm taking
you up on your offer to let me stay at
your place for a few The motel ain't exactly working out.
If it's cool, I'm actually heading over there now. Probably
best for us a talk in person anyway.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Well, you're a little late, Julian. You are welcome to
stay at my place, but I don't think I'm gonna
be much company.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
You know.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
It's taken me years, but eventually I realized that there
was another presence in there with us that day in
the caves. It's the same one that's coming.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
For me now.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
And he can hear us, he can hear our thoughts,
he can hear me right now, and he knows I'm
talking to you. He's close now, and this time I
set up a little trap, and now here we are.

(21:08):
I made it, almost got lost on on my way
here with the fog got so dense. I'm hearing all
the charges are set now.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
So uh.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
If you're hearing this audio file with then glory, fucking hallelujah.
It's already done, man, And hopefully my god forsake soul
is no longer torment. Hopefully my miseries.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
At an end.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Damn. This is the exact spot where we found the
body's joined full circle.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
I guess.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
It's Saturday, August seventh. It's almost nine thirty am. Only
a few minutes now, Tempert. Your sixty two degrees and
dropping fog is so thick I can't see three feet.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Here he comes.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
The's time to go, Julian, Julian, there's just one more
thing I forgot to tell you, one last thing. Your
father was only trying to protect you, Julian sending hello.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
There a ghost and the mill.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
And the hounds of hell dancing in your azen.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
The Manwalk Caves stars Jonathan Tucker as Julian Sallace, Eddie
Gathegy as James Fincher, Clark Peters as Detective Solomon Smith.
Nick Cercy as Sheriff Kirby Hooper, Justin Welborn as Tyler Wilson,
Jill Jane Clements as Jill Campbell, Brad Carter as Dooley Tappert,
Scott Poythus as Reverend Perkins, Samantha Ashley as Dena Fincher,

(24:28):
Justin Matthews Smith as Paul Sallace, Tara Oakes as Laura Sallace,
Jonathan Horn as Deacon Hadley, Alden Karanovitch as Thomas Hadley,
Mike w Anderson as Griff Washington Body, Walterroff as Jimmy Fincher,
Brian McClure as Ian Speinks, Larry Clark as Bobby Hadley,
Payden Fallis as ed leab Blanc, Vic Palis's as William Fowler,

(24:52):
Nick Takosky as Richard Rydell, and Aileen Lloy as The Darkness,
with additional performances by Clint mcgow, Dina Dill, Edward Howard,
Henry Foster Brown, Jamie Joseph, Juan Monsalvez, Christopher Curry, Bailey Heineman,
David Mitchell, and Bernard Sataro Clark. Created by Connell Byrne

(25:14):
and Dan Bush. Written by Dan Bush, Zoe Cooper, and
Nicholas Dakosky featuring our theme song Killer Inside, written produced
and performed by Leraa Lynn. Our executive producers are Matt Frederick,
Alexander Williams, Michael Monty, and Courtney du Frees. Our executive
producers at Blumhouse Television are Jeremy Gold, Chris Dickey, and

(25:37):
Noah Feinberg. Produced by Dan Bush, music by Ben Lovett,
additional music by Alexander Rodriguez. Edited by Dan Bush, Chris Childs,
Stephen Perez and David Chen. Sound design by Benjamin Malcolm.
Additional sound design by Alexander Rodriguez. Dialogue editing and sound
mixing by Juan Campos. Recorded at Studio Awesome in Los Angeles,

(26:00):
sound Bite Studio in Atlanta, and Echo Mountain in Asheville.
Casting by Sunday Bowling, Kennedy and Meg Mormon. Our dialect
coach is Linda Bessesti, Assistant director, Michael Monty, second assistant director,
script supervisor and production coordinator Sarah Klein. Supervising producer Josh Thain.
Special thanks to Mary Ellen and Jason Davis, Jonathan Dieter,

(26:23):
and Joe Rickman. The Manowak Caves is a production of iHeartRadio,
Blumhouse Television and Psycopia Pictures.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Mean fufu of s enough manif
Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club

Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club

Welcome to Bookmarked by Reese’s Book Club — the podcast where great stories, bold women, and irresistible conversations collide! Hosted by award-winning journalist Danielle Robay, each week new episodes balance thoughtful literary insight with the fervor of buzzy book trends, pop culture and more. Bookmarked brings together celebrities, tastemakers, influencers and authors from Reese's Book Club and beyond to share stories that transcend the page. Pull up a chair. You’re not just listening — you’re part of the conversation.

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.