April 12, 2023 • 39 mins
A key piece of evidence turns up that could prove Fincher’s innocence… or guilt. Tyler goes missing. Julien’s nightmares intensify.
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You're listening to The Manawat Caves, a production of iHeartRadio,
Blumhouse Television and Psycopia Pictures. Okay, oh, guess six eleven am.
I'm sitting at a gas station park a lot. I
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don't remember coming here. I swear I was being attacked,
like by a swarm of bats. And I know I
saw the driver's side window crack when a batting. I
know I saw that both the windows fine. Now that
he the hairline fracture. There's a prompet for bad with
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the twelve pack of beer sitting in the passenger seat
of my cart. No idea how it got there. I
recognize this gas station, yes I do it. Snear Tyler's place,
which means I must have decided to drive out here
and talk to him in person. Maybe stay the night,
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explains the beer man. You've reached Tyler Wilson Wilson Repair Services,
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leave a message and we'll get back to you as
soon as possible. Thanks and have a great day. Hey man,
it's Julian. Listen, and I'm taking you up on your
offer to let me stay your place for a few
The motel ain't exactly working out. If it's cool, I'm
actually heading over there now. Probably best for us to
talk in person. Anyway. I got out of the car,
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walked to the door. It was already open, so I
just walked in. Tyler, I know you're walking like that.
H Tyler, Tyler, what's gone? Oh my god? I think
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he was the quiet one. He wore this silver cross
round his neck like a flashy reminder of the inequities
of life. Like some people can be as statistic as
they please with no consequences. Did I pass? I guess
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you know you're the better than you used to? Could
I put you maybe in tail with a big show
to see your old buddy James Benshall. Get the jab.
It's gonna be quiet. I Dispectator's part. You don't understand
I had to come back when you should have resisted
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that urge. The beasts of don to true to you're
playing with fire, hear you have no idea what you, messment.
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It's not just for me. I'm trying to do the
righting here for fans. I'm trying to help him a
little too fucking late for that, don't you think? Then?
Of course, there's witness testimony from one of his own
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classmates that James Fincher had Deacon Hadley's necklace, a silver
crucifix in his possession the day after the boys went missing,
and this witness described what appeared to be bloodstains on
that crucifix. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the offense
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is a charade. There is no doubt as to who
killed Thomas and Deacon happening. The murderer sits before you
in this very room. August eight, eleven, eleven PM. My
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mind is playing tricks on me. It feels like I'm
lost in a house, and mirrors, the blackouts in the
nightmares are happening more frequently. I'm I'm really scared. Right now.
I'm sitting on a bench at the Old View Cemetery
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where my mother and father are buried. I can see
their graves from here, right up there in that hill.
I know I om a visit, but I guess I'm
not ready for that, yet it's just close enough for now.
I don't know how long I've been here or how
I got here. I assume my car is around somewhere.
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But the last thing I remember, I was at Dina's house.
Joe Campbell was there too, and Fincher's defense attorney LeBlanc.
But a lot has happened since then. I just don't
know what I remember. I went to Tyler's and I
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found his house all smashed up the fuck Okay, according
to my log, that was on the sixth, two days ago.
I don't remember pressing record, and yet I feel like
it's all here somehow. In this recording, I made a
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Tyler's place. This is the epicenter, ground zero for the
fog and the ghost, and maybe Tyler himself holds the
key to unlock the truth wherever he is. I've played
it back three times already. I'm searching for something. What
am I missing? Tyler? Tyler? You go on, come on,
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get out of here. Hit the hell out of here.
Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ. Okay, so I'll just sixty two thirteen. Damn,
I'm at Tyler's cabin out off through twenty six. He
invited me I didn't break in. Okay, I want that
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own record. I didn't break in. The door was already
unlocked when I got here. That's normal round here. I mean,
I let myself in when he didn't answer, and I
didn't think hell, the TV was still on. Okay, there
seems to be signs of a sign of a struggle.
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His coffee table is knocked over, there's broken glass everywhere.
It smells like gum powder. It looks like he was
eating just like snacks or whatever. And I chip. There's
chips all over the floor, which is what I imagine
the possums. After the bookshelf against the wall is broken.
The shelves are all smashed up, and everything that was
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on them, like books and little knit knacks and then
whatnot are all over the place. Is that there's a
shotgun shell? A fuck time? Oh shit? Oh so um,
there's blood. It's everywhere. I didn't even see it when
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I got in here. How did I not see it?
I got blood on me, it's all there's blood all
over my shirt sleeve, all over my shirt sleeve. It
took me a salo of three minutes of hyperventilating before
I realized the blood. I was covered and was my
own most of its least. I was so distraught at
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the state of Tyler's cabin that I didn't even notice
that I cut my wrist. I'm a shard of glass
from the coffee table when I rolled it over. That's
when I got dizzy. These uh episodes, they're happening more often,
less time in between attacks. This one started with a
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sound banging on glass coming from somewhere in the back
of Tyler's house. So I followed it, expecting to find
someone or something like knock getting on a window or something.
There was nothing, but the knocking didn't stop, and I
realized that it wasn't coming from the windows at all.
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It was coming from the bathroom. I followed it, but
the bathroom was empty, too, and I realized it wasn't
glass from a window I was hearing being banged done.
It was the glass from the bathroom mirror. I opened
the medicine cabin and the whole thing like moved, like
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it was loose on its frame. I pulled it all
out from the wall. I found myself staring into this
dark void on the other side of the mirror, and
then one of them hit me in the face the back,
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and the swarm followed an ocean of flying rodents funneling
through the back of Tyler's medicine cabinet, looking for an
outlet to go pursue their nightly feeting. They gathered in clumps,
taking positions on the curtain rod, hanging upside down, staring
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at me. Then one by one they started hissing. I
turned and I looked into the darkness behind the mirror.
Then I crawled through the hole. I found myself standing
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on familiar ground. I was back in the fucking cave,
and I greeted their depths like an ottle friend. And
I heard a terrifying voice coming from somewhere behind me.
It was Deacon Hadley words. I couldn't make out, words
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echoing off the wet cave walls, so I walked deeper in,
and then I heard his voice cut short. Next thing
I knew, I was back in the bedroom. I grew
up in just like before, and so was the gray Man,
decayed and rasping, ben and rotting in the shadows. What
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are gone? What the fucking okay? I'm not sure how
long I was gone or exactly when I came back,
but when I regained my consciousness. I was sitting neatly
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on the floor at Tyler's place, and the cut on
my hand had already started clotting over, just like before,
and just like now. I don't remember the events themselves
how I ended up where I did. I only remember
the nightmare. I hauled myself up off the ground, made
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my way half conscious, to my car, and I drove myself, yes,
one handed, to the hospital for stitches. Of course, once
I was there, they wanted to know how I got cut.
I thought about lying. I slept on a rock, was
clumsy with a table saw. I got two confident pitting
an avocado. But I knew my blood was all over
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Tyler's living room floor at this point, mixed with whatever
other blood was already there. If it didn't look like
a crime scene before I got there, it's sure as
hell did after. So I went ahead and I filed
the formal report. Julian, how are you doing? So? I
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kept my recorder going when I went into the sheriff station,
where I was reunited with Sheriff Kirby Hooper. He looks
old now, pale, gaunt. Sure if I want to follow
a missing person support for Tyler Wilson. People disappear all
the time, Julian, what makes you think Tyler is missing?
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Sides of the struggle at his house signs of a struggle.
I'm just telling you what I saw. It looked at
me like there had been a struggle. And what were
you doing in his house? Well, he invited me. Why
does anyone go to anyone's house. There's no need to
get defensive. I'm not. We just need to find him.
My job is to find answers. And if your friend
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is missing, that brings up a lot of questions. Why
don't we start with you telling me what you know.
If memories served me correctly, you've been quite helpful and
giving me the answers that I needed in the past.
Sun bitch all but admitted to coersion, as if I'm
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not already painfully fucking aware. If he had just come
out and said it, we would have probably had everything
we needed to get Finch off death Row. But he
knew better. Sheriff Hooper maybe a shit hell, but he's cautious,
unlike the rest of his boys and Brown. What happened
next was all a bit of a ship show man
of walks fine a stampede into Tyler's house, touching everything,
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knocking shit over. If there was any evidence in there
as to what happened to Tyler, it was all immediately
tainted by idiot cops who had not been properly trained
on how to preserve a crime scene. One rookie officer
right out of high school. We even started cleaning up
the place. Or maybe it wasn't even stupidity, Maybe it
was just made to look like stupidity. I mean, it
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wasn't exactly in Hooper's interest to take any action that
might reopen the Hadley murder case. Those cops did come
away with one interesting fund, however, No, I'm not really
sure how I feel about it yet. A necklace. The necklace,
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a small cross a crucifix hanging from a silver chain
may not have seemed two odds your average passer by,
but to anyone who knew Tyler well, Tyler was an
outspoken atheist, probably the only one in Manuel County. That
cross didn't belong to him, but it did look awfully familiar.
In fact, anybody who has lived in the area long
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enough would probably have recognized it, if not from the
gaudy chain, then from the initials edged into the back
of it. DH I remember that necklace. I used to
sit behind Deacon have the inphasicis class, and I remember
staring at that exact chain pressed into the pink, freckled
skin on the back of his neck. I remember thinking
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it was ironic to someone who took such joy and
the torment of others flaunted a symbol of faith and
compassion so publicly. There was no doubt as to who
the neck was belonged to. There was no doubt it
was the infamous missing necklace. The Dully Tapper testified about
under oath and James Sincer's trial. Man, what did James
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Spencer say to you that day? Well, Sir hey kind
of right about it, about knowing where they was at,
where who was that Thomas and Dickon Hadley? Sir said
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he knew what had happened to them, and what did
he say happened to them? Said that it was for
him to know and for everyone else to find out,
said they would too find out. Sir Son, Enough he
said it, he said. And did you believe him, honestly,
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not really until he showed me the cross. The cross.
It was the silver cross with Jesus crucified the one
Deacon always wore. Fincher dangles in front of me and says,
that's what happens when you mess with the Finchers and
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tells me I'll end up saying if I don't leave him,
be his sister too. Says I better keep my mouth
shut too, or what go on, shoe, or he'd kill me.
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They never proved the finch had Deacon's necklace. It was
never found, but the missing crucifix necklace received significant press
attention during the trial. So what the hell was the
silver necklace doing in Tyler's bathroom cabinet? Randomly, Tyler Wilson
goes missing and Deacon Hadley's cross is discovered in his
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house less than a week before James Fincher's execution, being
the Duley Tapper was the cop that found it. Rumors
are already spreading faster than skunk wind. People around town
are speculating, and tensions are high. Well, just look at
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this standing room only I get it. The town needs
somewhere to turn for answers, for comfort, and of course
Reverend Perkins has seized the opportunity. All right, all right,
y'all settling now, now I know why it's been so
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long since some of you've been in here. And don't
you worry just because you wander the field, that doesn't
mean you've strayed from the flock. I know that God
knows that. But I also know why you've chosen to
come back today. It's because you're afraid, And of course
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you are. Thomas and Deacon Hadley joined the Lord fourteen
years ago this past May. But the Lord truly does
work miracles, giving each and every one of us the
strength the power through him to carry on, to keep
the faith, to know that God is cradling those boys
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in his kingdom, safe and sheltered from the debauchery and
sends of mankind on earth. But now now we are reminded,
and it's hard to not assume the worst, that the
devil has been living amongst us all this time. Well,
I have news for you. He has. He has been
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living among us, and he is still here walking among us.
The Bible tells us be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary,
the Devil, as a roaring line, walketh about, seeking whom
he may devour. Now you say it to me, bot Reverend,
I thought we caught. The Devil's servant, James Fincher is
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riding away on death road for murder. Into that. I say,
thank the Lord, But lo, even with James Fincher's execution
right around the corner, the devil has made his presence
known again. He has slithered into our midst intent on
causing further harm to our faithful community, sowing his seeds
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of doubt and working to upend justice. The devil is cunning.
Here is a trickster. Are we so arrogant us to
believe he could not outsmart us? Consider with me, folks,
that someone was working behind James Fincher that night so
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long ago, and consider that he may still be freely
walking amongst us. Because what is happening here and now
to our proud little town is the devil's work. You'd
better believe that is the devil's work, and you'll know
that the devil works hard. The town has lost its
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collective shit after that sermon, an authority figure in the
community is now telling everyone outright to be afraid. He's
taken the vague suspicions that were swimming around in people's
heads and he's solidified them into the threat of a
killer on the loose in their own backyard. The boogeyman
is still out there. Folks. You could end up just
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like those boys. You will end up just like those boys.
Repent your sins and pay the church. God will protect
you if you open your wallet and follow those in
power and the people. They're eating it up. Hooper isn't
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going to object. Even in his heyday, he was always
in perkins pocket. But now Kirby Hooper is an old dog.
He doesn't have the stam not run two laps around
the sheriff station. Let a little track down a killer.
So why not let Reverend Perkins do the heavy lifting.
If Perkins can scare up the town good enough, convince
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them to start thinking irrationally pointing fingers at one another,
well Hooper can do exactly like he did with James Fincher,
sit back and wait for the town to tell him
who to put away. No actual detective work needed. Hell,
this whole thing is a blessing Hooper's approvable rate and
will go through the roof. Come next election, he'll rake
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in the dough. I'll sit him back, getting fatter work
in the system at its finest. New message in the
team in spak Spotsville posts. I want to let you
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know we are running a piece on the Tyler Wilson
investigation as a sidebar to the Fincher execution story. I
understand you were the last one to visit Tyler before
his disappearance. I think they're calling it anyway. I just
wanted to let you know that we are mentioning you,
and we'd like to include any comments that you'd like
to put in there as well. So, yeah, just get
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back to me when you can. Oh. Yeah. In the meantime,
I'm still working on that interview tape you asked from me,
you know, the one with a detective Smith. Message. Next message,
send through, next message, send Julian. I'll have Joe Campbell
and our journing this to Rank coming over to night
at seven, thanking that for you, to her invest of
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you that just need only back Dina Fincher. She's small,
but you couldn't pay me to get on her bad side.
She's got a fire in her that burns hotter than
any hell Perkins could dream of. So when she says
to call her right back, you do. We met up
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about an hour after she left that message back at
her house. Problem is, by the time I got there,
I was hard to be coming unstable again. Well you
don't look so hot, Julian, just saying I've had better weeks.
How are you holding up? DNA? Well? Between them putting
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me back on the graveyard shift at work, A sick
dog who's vet bills I can't afford. Am I delinquents
on sneaking out every night while I'm working. Just lovely,
but frankly, Julian, just how my disposition is situated right
now don't matter. The only thing that matters is saving
my brother's life. You feel me? Oh, yeah, of course
I don't. I'm okay, thanks, How about you, Jill, No,
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I'm fine. Thanks. I'm just gonna set this on the
table if that's okay. Come on, and mister le Blanc.
This is Julian Sollas. Oh, this is Julian Good. I
was hoping you've been joining us today. Well, when data
Fitcher calls you pick up, I'm glad you decided to
officially join our defense team. Whatever you need you just
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let me know. Well, we needed your signature. I've already
prepared a let her on your bath. I'm abound legal
a little let you know that the language here has suggested,
so take a minute and read it over. But if
you can sign him, yeah, sure of course, I'm happy
to make any edits. Dina, do you ever print it? No?
All right, that's okay. I have won in the car
ed le Blanc, a tall, tired looking man in his sixties,
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long gray hair, white shirt and a well worn linen
suit like a southern William Kunstler. The plan was to
petition a higher court to intervene and hopefully order the
lower court or maybe man, I'll walk how any district
attorney to review James Sentcher's case on the grounds that
the key witnesses testimony have been coerced. That key witness
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it was me. I had to publicly state that my
deposition fourteen years ago was false. Junior. You okay, yeah,
I just can I can I get that water? Jimmy
can get it, Jimmy, Dina? Has the press reached out
just the usual stuff, But nothing about this Tyler Wilson business.
No what Tyler Wilson business. Julian hasn't told you? Yeah,
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I just got here, actually told me what. Well. I
went out to visit Tyler at his place. But when
I got there, it was all smashed up, looks like
a forced entry, and Tyler was nowhere to be found.
I reported it looks like it may have been found.
Play what's this got to do with my brother? The
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Sheriff's office came out to Tyler's home to investigate, and
they found the necklace. What necklace? The one that belonged
to Deacon Hadley silver crucifix? Yes, the one they never found. Yeah,
I'm familiar. So what's this all mean? Well, it might
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be enough to throw James's criminal trial and question which
could trigger a postponement of the execution. Seriously, we can
file a claim of new evidence. What does that do? Exactly?
Law allows any individual convicted of a crime to move
the court to overturn their sentence based upon a claim
of newly discovered evidence. So if we can argue that
the necklace clearly points to Tyler Wilson, it raises new questions.
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It certainly creates reasonable doubt about james guilt or if
he acted alone. But it's not Wait a minute, you
don't think Tyler really did it, though, do you? Well,
somebody sure as hell did. Yeah, but his house was
all smashed up, there was blood everywhere. Something happened to Tyler.
What happened to him is irrelevant far as I'm concerned.
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Is how much responsibility he asked for all this? And
he ain't here to rebut anything, so it can't be serious.
Deacon Hadley's necklace was found in his house. That's evidence,
evidence of what? Why the hell else did he get
that necklace? Julian, There's any number of ways that he
could ed it up at Tyler's house. And what kind
of person keeps some kind of things anyway, I'll tell
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you what parents and murderers. Suddenly it's now on me,
on my shoulders to implicate Tyler in an effort to
save Finch, like I have to choose between the two.
I can correct the thing that triggered all of myself
loathing and bad decisions that the past fourteen years has wrought,
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but only if I start the process over again by
doing now exactly what I did, then point at an
innocent man and call him guilty. There's no relief from
my past. It's just an opportunity for me to repeat it.
I never end in a loop of ruining lives and
in doing so, destroying my own. Sitting there in Diana's
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living room. I was trapped. Just hold on a minute.
I couldn't breathe. How do you know that someone didn't
plant it, Julie Tapper or somebody could have broken and
knocked him out or whatever the planted the necklace before
taking him wherever they took him. Seriously, Julian, what if
it's true? What if me showing back up in town,
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poking around and the ship made somebody nervous? What if
that person needed to find a scapegoat? Can I please?
Can I please gets the water? June? If something else though,
Julian Tyler was seen on Friday, good morning after you
went to his place where Riverbend Maximum Security Institution in
Nashville apparently paid a visit to James. We don't know where.
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And this time it was like the fog waited until
I was in a room with other people, like it
knew we had important business to attend to, like some
invisible hand, and it was choking the life out of me,
so I wouldn't be able to do what I was
there to do, what I was in mana walk, to
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do what I had spent the last half of my
life needing to do. I was sweating, my vision was swimming,
and my heart rate was through the roof, and it
was all overshadowed by this impendent sense of doom. I'm sorry,
I don't know if I can do this right now. Well,
when the hell did you want to do it, Julian,
After my brother's murdered by the same Hold on a minute, Jimmy,
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I felt like somebody had sucked all the air out
of me. But then I got worse. Here you go, Julie,
What it wasn't Jimmy walked into the room. It was Tyler,
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casual as you please, and he handed me a glass
of water. Man, it's a good thing you didn't show
up in my how things sooner and you did. I
turned to look back at the other people at the table.
They weren't there either, but in their places at Finch
at the head of the table where Dina was supposed
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to be, and Jill and le Blanc were replaced by
none other, and Deacon and Thomas had people themselves in
all of their bloody, eviscerated, glory, rotten and disavowed, smiling wide,
some of their teeth still attacked. The gag was tall there,
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and that was it. I passed out, Julian, God, damn it, Julians.
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What's wrong with them? Jimmy out? Do you see him drop? Onder?
What happened to him? Must be me? Get out? Now?
Should I call an ambulance? Look, he's awake. What Julian,
You're back with us now, Julian? Who I think? Damn Julian, Julian,
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where are you going? Julian? I don't think it's a
good idea to go anywhere, Julian, Julian getting up. I
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remember walking out of Dana's house. I don't know how
I got here. It's just it's too much, the process,
it's too much. I can't hold it all in my
head anymore. I'm slipping farther and farther, losing bigger chunks
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of time between my sleep deprivation and these blackouts. My
brains all twisted and stuttering. I can't get my thoughts
out right. Jesus, Hello, all from the river bends backs
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an am security institution where you as the charges. Yes,
this call will be recorded and manatured. Please stand by
and Julia, Hey Finch, Yeah, it's me. I needed to
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compe me. I donna have my time. Man mean again,
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m Hm, The Ghost and The Dancing The Manoel Caves
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stars Jonathan Tucker as Julian Salis, Eddie Gaffeggy as James Fincher,
Clark Peters as Detective Solomon Smith, Nick Sercy as Sheriff
Kirby Hooper, Justin Wellborn as Tyler Wilson, Jill Jane Clements
as Jill Campbell, Brad Carter as Dooley Tappard, Scott Poythress
as Reverend Perkins, Samantha Ashley as Deana Fincher, Justin Matthews
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Smith as Paul Salace, Tara Oakes as Laura Salis, Jonathan
Horn as Deacon Hadley, Alden Kronovitch as Thomas Hadley, Mike
w Anderson as Griff Washington, Bodie Walter Roth as Jimmy Fincher,
Brian McClure as Ian Spinks, Larry Clark as Bobby Hadley,
Paydon Fallis as ed le Blanc, Vic Polisis as William Fowler,
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Nick Dakosky as Richard Rydell, and Aileen Loy as The Darkness,
with additional performances by Clint mc gowan, Dina Dill, Edward Howard,
Henry Foster, Brown, Jamie Joseph, Juan Monsalvez, Christopher Curry, Bailey Hyneman,
David Mitchell, and Bernard Sataro Clark Created by Connel Byrne
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and Dan Bush. Written by Dan Bush, Zoe Cooper and
Nicholas Dakoski featuring our theme song Killer Inside, written produced
and performed by Lear Lynn. Our executive producers are Matt Frederick,
Alexander Williams, Michael Monte, and Courtney Dufrees. Our executive producers
at Blumhouse Television are Jeremy Gold, Chris Dickey, and Noah Feinberg.
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Produced by Dan Bush, Music by Ben Lovett, Additional music
by Alexander Rodriguez, edited by Dan Bush, Chris Childs, Stephen
Perez and David Chen. Sound design by Benjamin Malcolm. Additional
sound designed by Alexander Rodriguez. Dialogue editing and sound mixing
by Juan Campus recorded at Studio Awesome in Los Angeles,
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is Linda Basseesti Assistant director Michael Monty, second assistant director,
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Special thanks to Mary Ellen and Jason Davis, Jonathan Deeter,
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The Manawat Caves is intended for mature audiences. It contains
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You're listening to The Manawat Caves, a production of iHeartRadio,
Blumhouse Television and Psycopia Pictures. Okay, oh, guess six eleven am.
I'm sitting at a gas station park a lot. I
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don't remember coming here. I swear I was being attacked,
like by a swarm of bats. And I know I
saw the driver's side window crack when a batting. I
know I saw that both the windows fine. Now that
he the hairline fracture. There's a prompet for bad with
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the twelve pack of beer sitting in the passenger seat
of my cart. No idea how it got there. I
recognize this gas station, yes I do it. Snear Tyler's place,
which means I must have decided to drive out here
and talk to him in person. Maybe stay the night,
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explains the beer man. You've reached Tyler Wilson Wilson Repair Services,
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leave a message and we'll get back to you as
soon as possible. Thanks and have a great day. Hey man,
it's Julian. Listen, and I'm taking you up on your
offer to let me stay your place for a few
The motel ain't exactly working out. If it's cool, I'm
actually heading over there now. Probably best for us to
talk in person. Anyway. I got out of the car,
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walked to the door. It was already open, so I
just walked in. Tyler, I know you're walking like that.
H Tyler, Tyler, what's gone? Oh my god? I think
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he was the quiet one. He wore this silver cross
round his neck like a flashy reminder of the inequities
of life. Like some people can be as statistic as
they please with no consequences. Did I pass? I guess
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you know you're the better than you used to? Could
I put you maybe in tail with a big show
to see your old buddy James Benshall. Get the jab.
It's gonna be quiet. I Dispectator's part. You don't understand
I had to come back when you should have resisted
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that urge. The beasts of don to true to you're
playing with fire, hear you have no idea what you, messment.
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It's not just for me. I'm trying to do the
righting here for fans. I'm trying to help him a
little too fucking late for that, don't you think? Then?
Of course, there's witness testimony from one of his own
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classmates that James Fincher had Deacon Hadley's necklace, a silver
crucifix in his possession the day after the boys went missing,
and this witness described what appeared to be bloodstains on
that crucifix. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the offense
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is a charade. There is no doubt as to who
killed Thomas and Deacon happening. The murderer sits before you
in this very room. August eight, eleven, eleven PM. My
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mind is playing tricks on me. It feels like I'm
lost in a house, and mirrors, the blackouts in the
nightmares are happening more frequently. I'm I'm really scared. Right now.
I'm sitting on a bench at the Old View Cemetery
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where my mother and father are buried. I can see
their graves from here, right up there in that hill.
I know I om a visit, but I guess I'm
not ready for that, yet it's just close enough for now.
I don't know how long I've been here or how
I got here. I assume my car is around somewhere.
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But the last thing I remember, I was at Dina's house.
Joe Campbell was there too, and Fincher's defense attorney LeBlanc.
But a lot has happened since then. I just don't
know what I remember. I went to Tyler's and I
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found his house all smashed up the fuck Okay, according
to my log, that was on the sixth, two days ago.
I don't remember pressing record, and yet I feel like
it's all here somehow. In this recording, I made a
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Tyler's place. This is the epicenter, ground zero for the
fog and the ghost, and maybe Tyler himself holds the
key to unlock the truth wherever he is. I've played
it back three times already. I'm searching for something. What
am I missing? Tyler? Tyler? You go on, come on,
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get out of here. Hit the hell out of here.
Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ. Okay, so I'll just sixty two thirteen. Damn,
I'm at Tyler's cabin out off through twenty six. He
invited me I didn't break in. Okay, I want that
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own record. I didn't break in. The door was already
unlocked when I got here. That's normal round here. I mean,
I let myself in when he didn't answer, and I
didn't think hell, the TV was still on. Okay, there
seems to be signs of a sign of a struggle.
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His coffee table is knocked over, there's broken glass everywhere.
It smells like gum powder. It looks like he was
eating just like snacks or whatever. And I chip. There's
chips all over the floor, which is what I imagine
the possums. After the bookshelf against the wall is broken.
The shelves are all smashed up, and everything that was
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on them, like books and little knit knacks and then
whatnot are all over the place. Is that there's a
shotgun shell? A fuck time? Oh shit? Oh so um,
there's blood. It's everywhere. I didn't even see it when
(09:10):
I got in here. How did I not see it?
I got blood on me, it's all there's blood all
over my shirt sleeve, all over my shirt sleeve. It
took me a salo of three minutes of hyperventilating before
I realized the blood. I was covered and was my
own most of its least. I was so distraught at
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the state of Tyler's cabin that I didn't even notice
that I cut my wrist. I'm a shard of glass
from the coffee table when I rolled it over. That's
when I got dizzy. These uh episodes, they're happening more often,
less time in between attacks. This one started with a
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sound banging on glass coming from somewhere in the back
of Tyler's house. So I followed it, expecting to find
someone or something like knock getting on a window or something.
There was nothing, but the knocking didn't stop, and I
realized that it wasn't coming from the windows at all.
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It was coming from the bathroom. I followed it, but
the bathroom was empty, too, and I realized it wasn't
glass from a window I was hearing being banged done.
It was the glass from the bathroom mirror. I opened
the medicine cabin and the whole thing like moved, like
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it was loose on its frame. I pulled it all
out from the wall. I found myself staring into this
dark void on the other side of the mirror, and
then one of them hit me in the face the back,
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and the swarm followed an ocean of flying rodents funneling
through the back of Tyler's medicine cabinet, looking for an
outlet to go pursue their nightly feeting. They gathered in clumps,
taking positions on the curtain rod, hanging upside down, staring
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at me. Then one by one they started hissing. I
turned and I looked into the darkness behind the mirror.
Then I crawled through the hole. I found myself standing
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on familiar ground. I was back in the fucking cave,
and I greeted their depths like an ottle friend. And
I heard a terrifying voice coming from somewhere behind me.
It was Deacon Hadley words. I couldn't make out, words
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echoing off the wet cave walls, so I walked deeper in,
and then I heard his voice cut short. Next thing
I knew, I was back in the bedroom. I grew
up in just like before, and so was the gray Man,
decayed and rasping, ben and rotting in the shadows. What
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are gone? What the fucking okay? I'm not sure how
long I was gone or exactly when I came back,
but when I regained my consciousness. I was sitting neatly
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on the floor at Tyler's place, and the cut on
my hand had already started clotting over, just like before,
and just like now. I don't remember the events themselves
how I ended up where I did. I only remember
the nightmare. I hauled myself up off the ground, made
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my way half conscious, to my car, and I drove myself, yes,
one handed, to the hospital for stitches. Of course, once
I was there, they wanted to know how I got cut.
I thought about lying. I slept on a rock, was
clumsy with a table saw. I got two confident pitting
an avocado. But I knew my blood was all over
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Tyler's living room floor at this point, mixed with whatever
other blood was already there. If it didn't look like
a crime scene before I got there, it's sure as
hell did after. So I went ahead and I filed
the formal report. Julian, how are you doing? So? I
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kept my recorder going when I went into the sheriff station,
where I was reunited with Sheriff Kirby Hooper. He looks
old now, pale, gaunt. Sure if I want to follow
a missing person support for Tyler Wilson. People disappear all
the time, Julian, what makes you think Tyler is missing?
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Sides of the struggle at his house signs of a struggle.
I'm just telling you what I saw. It looked at
me like there had been a struggle. And what were
you doing in his house? Well, he invited me. Why
does anyone go to anyone's house. There's no need to
get defensive. I'm not. We just need to find him.
My job is to find answers. And if your friend
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is missing, that brings up a lot of questions. Why
don't we start with you telling me what you know.
If memories served me correctly, you've been quite helpful and
giving me the answers that I needed in the past.
Sun bitch all but admitted to coersion, as if I'm
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not already painfully fucking aware. If he had just come
out and said it, we would have probably had everything
we needed to get Finch off death Row. But he
knew better. Sheriff Hooper maybe a shit hell, but he's cautious,
unlike the rest of his boys and Brown. What happened
next was all a bit of a ship show man
of walks fine a stampede into Tyler's house, touching everything,
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knocking shit over. If there was any evidence in there
as to what happened to Tyler, it was all immediately
tainted by idiot cops who had not been properly trained
on how to preserve a crime scene. One rookie officer
right out of high school. We even started cleaning up
the place. Or maybe it wasn't even stupidity, Maybe it
was just made to look like stupidity. I mean, it
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wasn't exactly in Hooper's interest to take any action that
might reopen the Hadley murder case. Those cops did come
away with one interesting fund, however, No, I'm not really
sure how I feel about it yet. A necklace. The necklace,
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a small cross a crucifix hanging from a silver chain
may not have seemed two odds your average passer by,
but to anyone who knew Tyler well, Tyler was an
outspoken atheist, probably the only one in Manuel County. That
cross didn't belong to him, but it did look awfully familiar.
In fact, anybody who has lived in the area long
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enough would probably have recognized it, if not from the
gaudy chain, then from the initials edged into the back
of it. DH I remember that necklace. I used to
sit behind Deacon have the inphasicis class, and I remember
staring at that exact chain pressed into the pink, freckled
skin on the back of his neck. I remember thinking
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it was ironic to someone who took such joy and
the torment of others flaunted a symbol of faith and
compassion so publicly. There was no doubt as to who
the neck was belonged to. There was no doubt it
was the infamous missing necklace. The Dully Tapper testified about
under oath and James Sincer's trial. Man, what did James
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Spencer say to you that day? Well, Sir hey kind
of right about it, about knowing where they was at,
where who was that Thomas and Dickon Hadley? Sir said
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he knew what had happened to them, and what did
he say happened to them? Said that it was for
him to know and for everyone else to find out,
said they would too find out. Sir Son, Enough he
said it, he said. And did you believe him, honestly,
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not really until he showed me the cross. The cross.
It was the silver cross with Jesus crucified the one
Deacon always wore. Fincher dangles in front of me and says,
that's what happens when you mess with the Finchers and
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tells me I'll end up saying if I don't leave him,
be his sister too. Says I better keep my mouth
shut too, or what go on, shoe, or he'd kill me.
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They never proved the finch had Deacon's necklace. It was
never found, but the missing crucifix necklace received significant press
attention during the trial. So what the hell was the
silver necklace doing in Tyler's bathroom cabinet? Randomly, Tyler Wilson
goes missing and Deacon Hadley's cross is discovered in his
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house less than a week before James Fincher's execution, being
the Duley Tapper was the cop that found it. Rumors
are already spreading faster than skunk wind. People around town
are speculating, and tensions are high. Well, just look at
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this standing room only I get it. The town needs
somewhere to turn for answers, for comfort, and of course
Reverend Perkins has seized the opportunity. All right, all right,
y'all settling now, now I know why it's been so
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long since some of you've been in here. And don't
you worry just because you wander the field, that doesn't
mean you've strayed from the flock. I know that God
knows that. But I also know why you've chosen to
come back today. It's because you're afraid, And of course
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you are. Thomas and Deacon Hadley joined the Lord fourteen
years ago this past May. But the Lord truly does
work miracles, giving each and every one of us the
strength the power through him to carry on, to keep
the faith, to know that God is cradling those boys
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in his kingdom, safe and sheltered from the debauchery and
sends of mankind on earth. But now now we are reminded,
and it's hard to not assume the worst, that the
devil has been living amongst us all this time. Well,
I have news for you. He has. He has been
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living among us, and he is still here walking among us.
The Bible tells us be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary,
the Devil, as a roaring line, walketh about, seeking whom
he may devour. Now you say it to me, bot Reverend,
I thought we caught. The Devil's servant, James Fincher is
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riding away on death road for murder. Into that. I say,
thank the Lord, But lo, even with James Fincher's execution
right around the corner, the devil has made his presence
known again. He has slithered into our midst intent on
causing further harm to our faithful community, sowing his seeds
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of doubt and working to upend justice. The devil is cunning.
Here is a trickster. Are we so arrogant us to
believe he could not outsmart us? Consider with me, folks,
that someone was working behind James Fincher that night so
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long ago, and consider that he may still be freely
walking amongst us. Because what is happening here and now
to our proud little town is the devil's work. You'd
better believe that is the devil's work, and you'll know
that the devil works hard. The town has lost its
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collective shit after that sermon, an authority figure in the
community is now telling everyone outright to be afraid. He's
taken the vague suspicions that were swimming around in people's
heads and he's solidified them into the threat of a
killer on the loose in their own backyard. The boogeyman
is still out there. Folks. You could end up just
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like those boys. You will end up just like those boys.
Repent your sins and pay the church. God will protect
you if you open your wallet and follow those in
power and the people. They're eating it up. Hooper isn't
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going to object. Even in his heyday, he was always
in perkins pocket. But now Kirby Hooper is an old dog.
He doesn't have the stam not run two laps around
the sheriff station. Let a little track down a killer.
So why not let Reverend Perkins do the heavy lifting.
If Perkins can scare up the town good enough, convince
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them to start thinking irrationally pointing fingers at one another,
well Hooper can do exactly like he did with James Fincher,
sit back and wait for the town to tell him
who to put away. No actual detective work needed. Hell,
this whole thing is a blessing Hooper's approvable rate and
will go through the roof. Come next election, he'll rake
(23:58):
in the dough. I'll sit him back, getting fatter work
in the system at its finest. New message in the
team in spak Spotsville posts. I want to let you
(24:19):
know we are running a piece on the Tyler Wilson
investigation as a sidebar to the Fincher execution story. I
understand you were the last one to visit Tyler before
his disappearance. I think they're calling it anyway. I just
wanted to let you know that we are mentioning you,
and we'd like to include any comments that you'd like
to put in there as well. So, yeah, just get
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back to me when you can. Oh. Yeah. In the meantime,
I'm still working on that interview tape you asked from me,
you know, the one with a detective Smith. Message. Next message,
send through, next message, send Julian. I'll have Joe Campbell
and our journing this to Rank coming over to night
at seven, thanking that for you, to her invest of
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you that just need only back Dina Fincher. She's small,
but you couldn't pay me to get on her bad side.
She's got a fire in her that burns hotter than
any hell Perkins could dream of. So when she says
to call her right back, you do. We met up
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about an hour after she left that message back at
her house. Problem is, by the time I got there,
I was hard to be coming unstable again. Well you
don't look so hot, Julian, just saying I've had better weeks.
How are you holding up? DNA? Well? Between them putting
(25:43):
me back on the graveyard shift at work, A sick
dog who's vet bills I can't afford. Am I delinquents
on sneaking out every night while I'm working. Just lovely,
but frankly, Julian, just how my disposition is situated right
now don't matter. The only thing that matters is saving
my brother's life. You feel me? Oh, yeah, of course
I don't. I'm okay, thanks, How about you, Jill, No,
(26:05):
I'm fine. Thanks. I'm just gonna set this on the
table if that's okay. Come on, and mister le Blanc.
This is Julian Sollas. Oh, this is Julian Good. I
was hoping you've been joining us today. Well, when data
Fitcher calls you pick up, I'm glad you decided to
officially join our defense team. Whatever you need you just
(26:26):
let me know. Well, we needed your signature. I've already
prepared a let her on your bath. I'm abound legal
a little let you know that the language here has suggested,
so take a minute and read it over. But if
you can sign him, yeah, sure of course, I'm happy
to make any edits. Dina, do you ever print it? No?
All right, that's okay. I have won in the car
ed le Blanc, a tall, tired looking man in his sixties,
(26:48):
long gray hair, white shirt and a well worn linen
suit like a southern William Kunstler. The plan was to
petition a higher court to intervene and hopefully order the
lower court or maybe man, I'll walk how any district
attorney to review James Sentcher's case on the grounds that
the key witnesses testimony have been coerced. That key witness
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it was me. I had to publicly state that my
deposition fourteen years ago was false. Junior. You okay, yeah,
I just can I can I get that water? Jimmy
can get it, Jimmy, Dina? Has the press reached out
just the usual stuff, But nothing about this Tyler Wilson business.
No what Tyler Wilson business. Julian hasn't told you? Yeah,
(27:33):
I just got here, actually told me what. Well. I
went out to visit Tyler at his place. But when
I got there, it was all smashed up, looks like
a forced entry, and Tyler was nowhere to be found.
I reported it looks like it may have been found.
Play what's this got to do with my brother? The
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Sheriff's office came out to Tyler's home to investigate, and
they found the necklace. What necklace? The one that belonged
to Deacon Hadley silver crucifix? Yes, the one they never found. Yeah,
I'm familiar. So what's this all mean? Well, it might
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be enough to throw James's criminal trial and question which
could trigger a postponement of the execution. Seriously, we can
file a claim of new evidence. What does that do? Exactly?
Law allows any individual convicted of a crime to move
the court to overturn their sentence based upon a claim
of newly discovered evidence. So if we can argue that
the necklace clearly points to Tyler Wilson, it raises new questions.
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It certainly creates reasonable doubt about james guilt or if
he acted alone. But it's not Wait a minute, you
don't think Tyler really did it, though, do you? Well,
somebody sure as hell did. Yeah, but his house was
all smashed up, there was blood everywhere. Something happened to Tyler.
What happened to him is irrelevant far as I'm concerned.
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Is how much responsibility he asked for all this? And
he ain't here to rebut anything, so it can't be serious.
Deacon Hadley's necklace was found in his house. That's evidence,
evidence of what? Why the hell else did he get
that necklace? Julian, There's any number of ways that he
could ed it up at Tyler's house. And what kind
of person keeps some kind of things anyway, I'll tell
(29:18):
you what parents and murderers. Suddenly it's now on me,
on my shoulders to implicate Tyler in an effort to
save Finch, like I have to choose between the two.
I can correct the thing that triggered all of myself
loathing and bad decisions that the past fourteen years has wrought,
(29:38):
but only if I start the process over again by
doing now exactly what I did, then point at an
innocent man and call him guilty. There's no relief from
my past. It's just an opportunity for me to repeat it.
I never end in a loop of ruining lives and
in doing so, destroying my own. Sitting there in Diana's
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living room. I was trapped. Just hold on a minute.
I couldn't breathe. How do you know that someone didn't
plant it, Julie Tapper or somebody could have broken and
knocked him out or whatever the planted the necklace before
taking him wherever they took him. Seriously, Julian, what if
it's true? What if me showing back up in town,
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poking around and the ship made somebody nervous? What if
that person needed to find a scapegoat? Can I please?
Can I please gets the water? June? If something else though,
Julian Tyler was seen on Friday, good morning after you
went to his place where Riverbend Maximum Security Institution in
Nashville apparently paid a visit to James. We don't know where.
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And this time it was like the fog waited until
I was in a room with other people, like it
knew we had important business to attend to, like some
invisible hand, and it was choking the life out of me,
so I wouldn't be able to do what I was
there to do, what I was in mana walk, to
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do what I had spent the last half of my
life needing to do. I was sweating, my vision was swimming,
and my heart rate was through the roof, and it
was all overshadowed by this impendent sense of doom. I'm sorry,
I don't know if I can do this right now. Well,
when the hell did you want to do it, Julian,
After my brother's murdered by the same Hold on a minute, Jimmy,
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I felt like somebody had sucked all the air out
of me. But then I got worse. Here you go, Julie,
What it wasn't Jimmy walked into the room. It was Tyler,
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casual as you please, and he handed me a glass
of water. Man, it's a good thing you didn't show
up in my how things sooner and you did. I
turned to look back at the other people at the table.
They weren't there either, but in their places at Finch
at the head of the table where Dina was supposed
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to be, and Jill and le Blanc were replaced by
none other, and Deacon and Thomas had people themselves in
all of their bloody, eviscerated, glory, rotten and disavowed, smiling wide,
some of their teeth still attacked. The gag was tall there,
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and that was it. I passed out, Julian, God, damn it, Julians.
(33:03):
What's wrong with them? Jimmy out? Do you see him drop? Onder?
What happened to him? Must be me? Get out? Now?
Should I call an ambulance? Look, he's awake. What Julian,
You're back with us now, Julian? Who I think? Damn Julian, Julian,
(33:35):
where are you going? Julian? I don't think it's a
good idea to go anywhere, Julian, Julian getting up. I
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remember walking out of Dana's house. I don't know how
I got here. It's just it's too much, the process,
it's too much. I can't hold it all in my
head anymore. I'm slipping farther and farther, losing bigger chunks
(34:25):
of time between my sleep deprivation and these blackouts. My
brains all twisted and stuttering. I can't get my thoughts
out right. Jesus, Hello, all from the river bends backs
(35:01):
an am security institution where you as the charges. Yes,
this call will be recorded and manatured. Please stand by
and Julia, Hey Finch, Yeah, it's me. I needed to
(35:30):
compe me. I donna have my time. Man mean again,
(35:50):
m Hm, The Ghost and The Dancing The Manoel Caves
(36:24):
stars Jonathan Tucker as Julian Salis, Eddie Gaffeggy as James Fincher,
Clark Peters as Detective Solomon Smith, Nick Sercy as Sheriff
Kirby Hooper, Justin Wellborn as Tyler Wilson, Jill Jane Clements
as Jill Campbell, Brad Carter as Dooley Tappard, Scott Poythress
as Reverend Perkins, Samantha Ashley as Deana Fincher, Justin Matthews
(36:47):
Smith as Paul Salace, Tara Oakes as Laura Salis, Jonathan
Horn as Deacon Hadley, Alden Kronovitch as Thomas Hadley, Mike
w Anderson as Griff Washington, Bodie Walter Roth as Jimmy Fincher,
Brian McClure as Ian Spinks, Larry Clark as Bobby Hadley,
Paydon Fallis as ed le Blanc, Vic Polisis as William Fowler,
(37:10):
Nick Dakosky as Richard Rydell, and Aileen Loy as The Darkness,
with additional performances by Clint mc gowan, Dina Dill, Edward Howard,
Henry Foster, Brown, Jamie Joseph, Juan Monsalvez, Christopher Curry, Bailey Hyneman,
David Mitchell, and Bernard Sataro Clark Created by Connel Byrne
(37:33):
and Dan Bush. Written by Dan Bush, Zoe Cooper and
Nicholas Dakoski featuring our theme song Killer Inside, written produced
and performed by Lear Lynn. Our executive producers are Matt Frederick,
Alexander Williams, Michael Monte, and Courtney Dufrees. Our executive producers
at Blumhouse Television are Jeremy Gold, Chris Dickey, and Noah Feinberg.
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Produced by Dan Bush, Music by Ben Lovett, Additional music
by Alexander Rodriguez, edited by Dan Bush, Chris Childs, Stephen
Perez and David Chen. Sound design by Benjamin Malcolm. Additional
sound designed by Alexander Rodriguez. Dialogue editing and sound mixing
by Juan Campus recorded at Studio Awesome in Los Angeles,
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Soundbyte Studio in Atlanta and Echo Mountain in Asheville. Casting
by Sunday Bowling, Kennedy and Meg Mormon. Our dialect coach
is Linda Basseesti Assistant director Michael Monty, second assistant director,
script supervisor and production Coordinator Sarah Klein, Supervising producer Josh Thine.
Special thanks to Mary Ellen and Jason Davis, Jonathan Deeter,
(38:42):
and Joe Rickman. The Manoel Caves is a production of iHeartRadio,
Blumhouse Television, and Psycopia Pictures.
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