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June 26, 2023 50 mins

Welcome back to our show! Lamorne's flying solo as host, but long-time New Girl writer Berkley Johnson joins him to recap Neighbors. Together they discuss the inception of prankster Winston. And how Casserole Shanty went from a clever w-fi name to a nautical-themed restaurant. Plus, that one time Berkley set himself on fire and was totally cool about it. Follow us on Instagram @welcometoourshowpod.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Ring, ring, ring ring. May I please speak with Zoe.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh, Hello, Lamurn, Let's patch and Hannah.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
God, I forgot what it was like working with you, guys.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to Welcome to our show. How
have you all been out there? I hope you're doing well.
I hope all of your hopes and dreams have come true.
I hope you get the job that you want. Hope
you start that company that you have been dying to start.
I hope you slept with that person that you've been
dreaming of sleeping with. And I hope that person is

laying next to you right now. And I hope you
guys are perfect harmony, in sync and madly in love
with each other, which is a perfect segue into who
our guest is. On today's show, Folks, we're recapping episode
four of season two Neighbors with a very special guest.
For nearly a decade, he wrote for Conan O'Brien. Scratched that.

I'm gonna say he wrote with Conan O'Brien. Conan O'Brien
could be so lucky to have known this person did
all that before writing on the hit series Single Parents
and New Girl. Now recently wrote a hilarious episode of
the Sarah Borealis and Busy Phillips show Girls five ever
fantastic show. This man is one of the coolest and

funniest people that I've ever had the pleasure of knowing
and working with. I've always said that this man is
someone who has and will help me hide the body.
So please welcome Berkeley Johnson to the shower. What's up, man?

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Nothing, Thank you. It's a real treat to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Thank you, Thank you for being here.

Speaker 4 (01:52):

Speaker 1 (01:52):
We've been doing this show for a season and you
are someone who has the inside scoop on this show
because because for a long time you've been a creator
of this show. Uh tell me, man, Uh, what's going
on with you? What's going on? We talked a little
bit about your your your your writing credits and such.

You know what, what what are you working on? What
you got going on?

Speaker 5 (02:16):
You know very little right now, but uh, you know,
just this hasn't been my favorite three years in the
history of time, but it's been you know, it is
what it is, and uh, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I say, none of that matters because you worked on
one of the greatest shows of all time.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Oh yeah, no, I'm done. Yeah, why you even why even
try to, uh to top you running around with a ski?
One of the wanted to hit people with it.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Jesus that, I gotta say that was one of the
more interesting things about my character development. Uh. And I
was curious what some of those, I don't know, those
discussions in the writer's room look like, because you know,
for so long, coming on as a new character on
a show, you have to piece certain things together and

figure out storylines, and you've lived with other storylines for
other characters and character traits for so long. But then
you have this guy who just pops up in episode two, Like,
what was that like in the writer's room? Was it hectic?
Was it kind of loose?

Speaker 4 (03:26):
I mean, I think has been well documented both in
speaking Foreman by just watching the show. We had to
us a little while to figure your character out because
through no fault of your own and entirely our own thing,

and we were very sleep deprived just in general. It
was along a couple of seasons. But anyway, and then
when we kind of just figured out, I don't even
know what the what they like figuring out moment was.
But then I think it really unlocked a lot of stuff,
and it really like you were always great, we just
weren't giving you like enough to do. I think it
was I'm sure you. I'm sure you humbly didn't feel

that way. You're like, no, no, I'm just here to support.
But no, you you Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
I was like, no, I'm dog shit, I'm dog shit.
I need to figure out.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
That's what I know. I said support, but I met
dog shit.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
You didn't have. I appreciate that. Man, you're being kind
and you're definitely being kind.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
But like with this episode, I vividly remember. I mean
his vivid is again, you can remember anything when you've
been sleeping eight minutes a night, like on the couch
in someone else's office. But uh, we were beating out
the story and Nick was going to be pranking Schmidt
and it was like he's really good at and I

was pitching out for Liz and she's and I was like,
Nick's really good at pranks, and and she's like, what's Winston.
What's Winston's take on the pranks? And I had nothing.
I'm like, well, he's really bad at pranks. And she
like gave me like a Liz eye roll and yet
that became I feel like one of the most through

no credits for myself, just to you, one of the
most like few through lines of like seven seasons. Was
it like Winston's bad at pranks? Yeah? And just fun?

Speaker 1 (05:17):
It was. It was very fun. You know what I
want you to hold that thought. Well, here's what I'm
going to do for the folks at home. If you're
just tuning in, I'm going to give you a quick
recap of this episode, and then I do want to
dive right back into what you're talking about, because I
don't think I don't think a lot of people know
the origin of that.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
And you feel like people when I just start talking
about pranks in an episode from eleven years ago, you
don't think people immediately know what I'm referring to that
it needs a recap.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I don't think they do.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
I'll just run this No, no, no, no, I I love it,
Please do.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
But I do want to jump into this recap. So neighbors,
we're talking neighbors.

Speaker 6 (05:56):

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Jess has reverted to a pre professional life. You know,
she used to be a respected teacher an educator of
the youth, but now she just links casseroles during the
day and watches TGIF every night that Jess. Unfortunately, some
millennials they move down the hall right. They embrace Justic's regression,
which causes Schmidt to lose his mind a little bit.
Now why would they love the cast all over? The

successful and handsome Schmidt. Meanwhile, Winston, he reconsiders his path
after a test tells him that he will live to
be sixty seven years old. He at least wants a
job that means something, you know. He whips out this
amazing speech and demands his own show and the title
of producer. Now our man has his own two am show,
which is fantastic. It's primetime for truckers. Schmidt perceives the

neighbor's rejection as an indication that he is an old person.
Nick exacerbates this fear by pulling insane pranks on Schmidt.
He removes a small portion of his shoes, he steals
the stuffing out of his favorite chair, and pretends schmidt
hearing is gone. Jess tries to warn Schmidt that the
kids they don't like him, but he's persistent when he's

trying to gain their respect and actually begs Jess for help.
Then he ignores all of her suggestions at the party
just a cool, low budget web series. Family Matters wins
over the neighbors, but when she learns that their parents
still do their laundry and they're all still aimless, she
comes to her senses and decides to grow upt. Schmidt
learns the kids don't think he's old. They just think

he's an ass hat, which I'm still trying to figure
out what that is. But that title is perfectly acceptable
for Schmidt, and that's what happened on episode two O
four Neighbors Boom. Now let's jump right back into it.
Let's start from the begetting. I do want to talk
about the idea of the writer's room and the age
gap between all the folks. We're the same age, so

I'm imagining folks were in their early mid twenties, you know,
maybe early thirties writing on the show, and then there
are some folks you know, who are a little older.
Was there ever that argument or was there ever that
discussion about millennials versus you know, you and me and

and all that bs that goes on in society.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Sure? Yeah, I mean I was on the older side,
I suppose, and I like was kind of but I
had spent so much of my life doing basically what
the neighbors across the hall were doing, not like you know,
hula hooping and eating artichokes, but just kind of drifting
through life, and you know, uh, just a staggering amount

of my like you know, twenties unemployed. So I like, really,
even though I'm unbelievably old and don't know what's going
on in the world, in that sense I did, there
is like a fundamental truth to like, oh yeah, when
you're that age, you kind of just hang out. I
don't remember getting into a lot of like fights about

like no, it would be this way be because I
think once we decided like, oh, they're gonna be fooled
by Jess's like pretending TV show catchphrases are her like
sort of all realism goes out the window, and it's
kind of just like, well, here's what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Right because I love these I love I you know,
I remember watching that episode and kind of going back
into my own TV vault in my head going, damn
alf some strangers, bro, Like these shows were, uh, these
shows are what we grew up on. That's that's all
that we had, you know, what I mean, tgif was
our shit.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
So yeah, I feel like and I feel like, watch
if someone were to watch it now, they would probably
it would be as if we're like, you know, she's
quoting like the Ed Sullivan Show or like a radio
show from nineteen twenty, they're like, what are you talking to? Who? Like?
It just feels like it must feel so like archaeological.

Yeah to today's eve.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
When you look at just the boity of it, it
was it was dog shit.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
It was that. Yeah, it was not.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Great, but we love it just the same.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
It was on and we loved it. That's all. It's.
That's all it took. Back then, you're like, it's there's
a box in my house and there's people on it,
and I get and I get to watch it till
my parents say go to bed, and that's like, really
all it took.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
So we are let's let's let's plow through this episode
for a second.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
That's the best way to get through this one.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
It's flowing, no, because you know on normally, so what
happens on these you know we're doing these. We're doing
this season a little bit different than we did the
first season. First season, you know, we would just do
a Q and A and just you know, talk about
stuff with you from the fans, and at this one,
we want you, you know, as a creator to kind
of help us break down this episode a little bit.

And when we walk through it, who came up? We
just talk about, you know, some of the specific minutia
and the details of the show. So we've got we
started off with just sitting on the couch, she can't
find a job, and then we go into you know,
you know the pranks you were talking about this earlier.

Winston is someone who and even until this day, people
walk up to me all the time and talk about
fucking pranks. But I'm watching this and I'm reminded that
I'm not one hundred percent sure I was the og
prank Sinatra because it was a it was a duo.
It was it was Nick and Winston when they were kids,

and Winston was actually really bad at it. But it
feels like Nick is like he's fucking fantastic at it.
When you watch this episode, it.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Feels like this was unintentionally. It was as if we
decided we can only have one prank person on this show,
and this was sort of like a like backdoor audition
to like, who is more enjoyable to watch pranking Nick
taking it really seriously and being like sort of diabolically
good at it, or is it Winston also taking it

very seriously but being completely OUTA yeah, completely on Mars
and clearly it was the ladder you it was so much.
You know, it's way it's almost always more fun to
see someone be bad at something than good at something.
I think that's sort of the one of the basic
tenets of New Girl and all television I enjoy and
life really absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
You know what I found to be funny is that
the the tag on this when Winston and we allude
to it when they're kids, when he was talking about
hitting his teaching with a ski, Like in the moment,
I'm like watching it, going like that, shit's funny, It's
really funny. And then now as I watch it again,
I go, did I hit my roommate with eski? What

is this?

Speaker 4 (12:53):

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Crazy? This is this loft?

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah? I think, you know, similar to like how we
don't really know you know, was Tay Diggs Okay they
left him unconscious in that elevator that coming he said,
It's like everyone's fine. Yeah, you know, It's just it's
like it's got kind of a you know, Looney Tunes
quality where fall off a cliff and with a rocket

up your butt and you're fine, oh yeah, next the
next cartoon.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Absolutely, So we're sitting down at the table and Winston
is reading it with's the actuary? Is it an actuary table?

Speaker 4 (13:32):
An actuarial table?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
At actuary table? Are those real stats? It's you know,
Winston African? What does this African American mid live? They
have a life expectancy? Was sixty seven years old? Was
that a real thing?

Speaker 4 (13:46):
I having not watched the show in this episode in
quite some time, and I rewatched it, like, you know,
to so I could stumble through a few words for
this podcast, I like let out like an audible gasp
where I'm like, Jesus, that's not very like I'm I'm
like sixty seven next year. But I have to believe
that that. I don't know why we would have done

that if it wasn't like true, yeah, true, at least
for a certain you know, slice of that demographic.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
But yeah, because that freaked me out.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
That freaking me out? No, yeah, same back.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Then, I think when we filmed this episode, I was
twenty seven, twenty eight. I think I was twenty maybe,
and so now now being almost forty year old, man,
I'm like looking at that clock, you knowing, have these
stats changed?

Speaker 4 (14:37):
What am I?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
What am I doing?

Speaker 4 (14:38):
You know?

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Am I drinking too much coffee? Am I drinking too much?
In general? You know? To try to share this out.
So when we when we moved through this episode, we
also we realized that Schmidt, actually let's go back. Let's
just talk about the neighbors. That's the name of this episode.
Let's talk about the neighbors. Chaz, Fife, Sutton, and Breery.

I know in life, I think I know, really I
don't know personally Fife dog, you know, tryp call questions.
Oh sure, I think that's it. Chazz, I don't see those.
Chas Dean, Yeah, but I don't know a Sudden or
a Breery. Are these personal names that you guys knew?

Speaker 4 (15:24):
I just I think this was this was the episode
where I this was a delightful job. I really loved it.
There's also was a lot you're just we're just there
a lot, and you kind of started doing things to
sort of make it a little more like a game
for you. And this is kind of when I was like,

I'm going to try to just sneak as many insane
names onto this show as possible. Yeah, and like sort
of low level infuriate Liz. So it's kind of I
think I was sort of like easing into it with
these four names. Also, any turds. I really started wanting
to the word any turds in episodes, and then this
was the first one of those, I think, And it

shows up a few times.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
And what does that mean?

Speaker 4 (16:11):
You like any turds? Like anyway, it's.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
You know, hilarious.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Important. The important thing is, in true New Girl fashion,
your story where you're truly worried about something very serious,
which is like your mortality and uh and then and
and how you can you know, find uh peace and
joy in life and live longer? Is like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

but here's we'll deal with that, and we'll do with
that in the scene. So we'll cut some scenes and
then you'll be there. It'll be great. But what's important is, uh,
is the names of these fuckers.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
No, it works because it definitely plays it to who
these characters are for sure, and the idea that Schmidt
wants to to be friends with him and uh and
can't be you know, so they go over there just
decides to bring a castle role which I which which

I think is stupid somebody's party. Well it works in
the episode, you know.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Well, I gotta say, like, this is really making me
sound like I put no work in on this episode,
which is which in some ways it's true. In some ways,
no one's ever talking about anything than we did on
these episodes, not to like great effect frequently, but the
name of my Wi Fi network was the Castle Role

Shanty at Home because I just thought that would be
quote funny, uh if, like my neighbors in my building
were like, is there a cast role restaurant like nearby?
Like really just so that had just been and so
that's pretty good. So they just needs a job, and

I'm like, well, this seems like a shitty place to work.
What if she worked at this this like nautical theme
to castleball places, that's pretty good. That's a pretty good one.
But I agree bringing it to the party.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Was you know, but what would you bring? What would
you bring to a stranger's house? I mean I would
just bring whiskey, which is what yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Or I just would not go I think what you
and Nick did what what? What? What you do when you
guys show up? Is about I'd be like, oh right,
I can't, this is crazy, but yeah I would bring
you know, yeah booze, a really elaborate flower arrangement.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Would you really no, Like it's like a maybe it's
a funeral, it's a funeral house party.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Sure, some sort of some some sort of you know,
incredibly delicate pet that they would have to like take
care of for years and years.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I knew a guy who did that. He try this
dog off once and never came back. And I would
hear the stories about it all the time, like because
I knew the guy and he literally asked someone in
the house sit and and then I heard years later,
you know he never picked that dog up. I was like,
what anyway, I digress.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
That's uh, well, did they learn to love the dog
as there are? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, yeah fell in love with that dog? It hit
my train, he didn't. That's that story was entirely made up.
My mom used to always tell me my mom would
come to my house and she would visit me, and
my house is filled with alcohol. But it's not that
I drink a lot. It's just that I would have

parties and people would you know, or even just invite
people that people just come by and it always bring
something and it was always alcohol. Where every time you
would get a gift bag, it was always alcohol and
so and I would always bring alcohol. So my mom
would be over, hey, I got to go to this thing.
I gotta go stop good bottle of something and then
and then I'll take someone's house. And for the longest time,
my mom was concerned that I had a drinking problem, sure,

because of all the alcohol that riddled my apartment. In
my house.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Well, I mean, I know you're in you're you're out
of town right now, but I've not seen any alcohol
behind you.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
And you look around that corner right there, right okay,
and that little dugout can't get my hair in that
little corner right there, tons of bullet bourbon.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
All right, you're ready, you're ready, You're ready to go.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Another thing I found interesting about this was that as
much they hate Schmidt, they definitely spent the night at
their apartment. And I didn't realize that until he walked
back in wearing the same clothes, and until now it's like,
did they did they spend the night across the hall.
Were they just party till that early in the morning.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
I think they were supposed to be partying. But yeah,
it is a weird because there's one place here the
least likely to stay over. It's probably across the hall
from your own apartment, because yeah, there's like no the
barrier to entry of getting home is couldn't be easier.
You're like, I have to get up and walk eight feet,
But yeah, I don't know. It's not an air tight story.

I'll just get that out right now. There may be
some holes here and there. One of the as many,
especially the earlier episodes of New Girl, we had a
real just opus of a story that, once filmed, was
an hour and a half long and then had to
be cut down to twenty minutes. So there's like, you know,

massive kind of like holes where if I'm there to
watch it with you, I can be like, well, see,
this would make more sense if you knew that blah
blah blah happened if we had to cut it for time.
But since I can only do that, you know a
couple thousand times a year where I watched this episode
with people, There's a lot of people out there who
just aren't you know, probably getting it, but you know it's.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Been well, you know, I didn't, I didn't notice any holes.
I thought that. I just thought that was a very
interesting fact.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
One thing that I thought was cool about it were
the the I guess, the the parallels between Winston being
inspired by Nick's drive, which is very random in his ambition,
and then Schmidt needing help from Jess to be cool.
That's kind of like a complete swap of Now was
that intentional or we just happened to find ourselves in

this place?

Speaker 4 (22:28):
I think so, because we've sort of done the opposite
of fair amount. It seems well that you know that
where Jess is the is the like motivator and the
like come on, guys, let's do this, and that like
Nick is the the anchor, and the Winston is generally

like very enthusiastic and kind of the initiator. And so
I think it was kind of like a again, this
is all the fog of insomnia has robbed me of
a lot of these details. But oh yeah, but I
definitely I'm just gonna say, sure, that's what we're totally
intentional and a plus execution. I thought it really worked.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
I thought it definitely worked, especially when you watch the show.
When you when you watch the show, there's a lot
of things that happen in the show which sometimes I'll
watch later and go was that intentional? Was that not intentional?
If we find ourselves with just not having a job,
but that's usually my thing, you know, and I the
character swaps a lot of times. I think is pretty cool,
especially when you go back and you watch it. Yeah,

and when you go back and you go, oh my god,
I didn't realize, for example, pranks was a nick thing,
you know, and it's interesting to hear how we how
we come to it being a Winston thing. Let's talk
about let's go back a little bit. I do want
to talk about you mentioned you mentioned your Wi Fi

password the cashword. To me, that is a fantastic prank. Yes,
k Are you yourself a prankster? Is that something that
you that you do?

Speaker 4 (24:05):
I aspire to be, like I think if I could change,
like I think I have the brain of a prankster,
but not the like, uh, the follow through of it,
Like I think. I think if there was if there
was some sort of like service where I could just
think of franks and then just then like hand them

out to people who add the like follow through to
go do them and to like and the sort of
I'm very conflict averse, so the idea of like doing
something that someone maybe gets mad about is horrifying to me.
Or I can't keep a straight face, so I'd be
like laughing at me. Like so there's a lot of
I have a lot of qualities that would make me
a bad branker. But yeah, so I think I think

I could. I could maybe conceive of a few. But
like that's you know, that's the easiest part. It's it's
the going in doing that really matters. And I'm not
that's the no.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
One spending twelve hundred bucks on pranks. I'm not sawing
down someone's shoe.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
And yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
We're gonna go and sell some diapers. But when we
come back, we are with Berkeley Johnson Well Shoes, and
we are back Berkeley. There's something that there's a segment

on our show that Hannah Simone is usually in charge of.
And I'm not sure if you've noticed, it's just you
and I here today. It's just it's just bros. Would
our dicks out, just talking and drinking.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
I just assumed Zoe and Hannah are going to jump
in when they had anything to add, and we weren't
saying the perfect things, and that we just can say
the perfect things. So there's no they're just applauding with
their computers muted.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, they usually hold it together. But Zoe is off
on her private jets somewhere, and I think Hannah's got
a joy riding and cruising the friendly skies with her.
So it's you and I today. But the segment that
Hannah usually tackles is called Where's the bear? Yes, and
we talk about that on this show all the time,
In fact every episode. We don't know if that's a

real thing. I don't think it's a real thing. Hannah
swears it's a real thing. Is there a bear in
every episode of is there a bear? Reference? Not talking
about the bear that's on the refrigerator in that picture,
not talking about that one. But what do you think
is that a real thing?

Speaker 4 (26:39):
I would I don't know, but I would think And
I say this with like true like love for the
entire all the riders, everyone involved with the show. I
have like the fond memories of everyone. But the thought

that but we could for one hundred and forty whatever episodes,
like do something as consistent as like, oh, there needs
to be a bear in every episode, is like it
should also be like oh there's you know, like we
go to the moon in every episode. Like there's just
no way that there's no way that a detail like
that was paid attention to and followed through one consistently.

I mean, we couldn't get much more important things than that, right,
So I can't believe we were like at least the
bears in there. But yeah, I would also love to
be wrong. I would say there's probably more bears in
more scenes of Noodle than there are in most shows
that take place in a non bear environment.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
I do think. I think at some point it just
happened to happen, happened to have happened. There's photos of
bears on refrigerator, there's one in Winston's room. Nick likes
the Chicago Bears. I don't.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
I mean, Liz, as is well documented, loves bears, and
I get it. Bears are very funny. There was someone
in a the guy in a I'm gonna say a
guy could have been, a lady could have been, it
could have been or non non gendered. I don't know
there was there was. Maybe it wasn't even a person.
I assume it was a person in a bear costume

at Liz and Alex's wedding, just wandering around.

Speaker 7 (28:15):
So that's the really Yeah, I don't remember that. Yeah,
or was it you and you're just the uh So
there's a real love of bears there, so it would
make sense that there's I would love for them to
be one in every episode and to be proven wrong.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
I just having been there and having been like a
huge culprit of this myself. The idea that we had
any sort of system in place to get everything, to
get anything like right with any consistency, is not how
it felt.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, I didn't. I never thought it was a real thing.
But for a long time you, I mean, there are
quite a few, there are quite a few bare references.
I just didn't know if it were every single episode.
But I'm glad to hear from you that you felt
that you guys couldn't have pulled it together. And maybe
on drinking and partying you were doing in the writer's.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Room, if only a lot of like two am, like
what if Winston got a ceiling fan? Have we done.

Speaker 6 (29:22):
That a lot of stuff like that, which is it's
it's a type of party and musing on you know,
appliances you might acquire in a b story.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
My storyline is the idea that I feel like I'm
going to die early and I want to have a
job that I can feel good about, and so him
working I think at the time he's like an assistant
or something at the at the at the radio station.
He wants to get his own show, and he goes
in and he gives this very impassion to plea this beach.

Which is one of my favorite things about the show
was whenever I'm like a and enraged and passion monologue
was written for me. They had so much fun doing it.
Was this based on anything Has it ever happened to
you before? Where you have to walk into a room
and just let everybody know what time it was? Has
it what happened? Have you seen it happen?

Speaker 4 (30:21):
I'm sure that it has, but I could certainly say
it didn't like end with a good result. It wasn't
like it. Then cut to me telling my roommates guess
what they loved it. I got the job, but no,
I think you know, you really sell it though. Yeah,
you've got some great No, there's some great monologues throughout

a later episode of mine. You have one of my
favorite things that I can only take partial credit for
because I remember Joe Wanger was helping me with it.
But it's about when you look in the suggestion box
of my life. You know what it says in there.
It says good job and like and you know who

put it there and me? You know how I know
because I recognize my handwriting. But again it's not quite right,
but so funny.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Well still do I mean? You so you're you're responsible
for and I'm not sure if you knew this. Well,
I'm quite sure you knew this, the quotes that come
out of this show, the things that fans post, the
tiktoks about our show. Is there anything that stands out?
Is there any line that you're most proud of or
you could always say I wrote I wrote that shit,

you know when you see fans blasting it all over
the place, or is there anything that sticks out to you?

Speaker 4 (31:41):
It's hard. I mean, you'll be shocked to learn. I'm
I'm a pretty light footprint on TikTok, so I'm not
exactly sure what's you know.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
I watch your tiktoks?

Speaker 4 (31:50):
What's lighting up the boards out there? There are? And
in coming on this podcast, I was like, I should
probably think of one frickin memory to just be like,
here's the one. Really, there's so many, and it's kind
of like I was there for like all seven seasons,
which though it felt much longer. So it's kind of like,
you know, what's your favorite memory from like college and

your master's program or wherever. It's like, there's just like
so many, like so many, so much it's hard to
like isolate one.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Well, I could tell you from a you tell me
what it is, and I'll agree with you. Well, I'm
not going to tell you specifically, but I will tell
you if you get on a TikTok. They are everywhere.
I can't. I'm tagged in all these things. And what's
interesting about it is that the fans, when they tag
you in it, they the question is always the same,

did you improvise that? Or did someone write that? And
I could tell you a majority of the time it's written.
Really improvise a lot on the show, but majority of
the time the silliness and the madness. And I've always
said this comes from which I think the greatest writers
ever assembled, and I genuinely mean that, and and you

are one of them, and you know, I just I like,
extremely like extremely like its like happy to have been
a part of something like that with people who because
then you're part of certain things where it doesn't go
quite the way you thought it was going to go.
But you guys together, it's like it's it was brilliant, man.

We got we got away with some really cool shit
on this show. And you know, and you're a reason
for that.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Well thanks, I mean I am reading you're obviously a
much bigger reason not to get into a reason measuring contest.
But uh no, I it was an amazing group I
mean of writers and there were a lot because people came,
I mean, we were on for a long time. We
made a lot of episodes and people came and went,
and like every incarnation of the writers room was a

really good group of people. And and you guys were
the cast was amazing and like it was a very
bumpy ride at times, but like so much of the
end as all, it was I think really like and
it's which the process too, It was it was a
lot of fun, but but uh yeah, it definitely like
it was a really special to be a part of.
And I also like it was funny because when I

was there, I was just like just enraged all the
time about all the things we couldn't do, like uh
and then when I you know, that was Fox and
my next thing I worked on was in ABC, and
I was like, I think I need to write the
execsit Fox, like an apology letter for a bunch of things.
I never said to them, but thought, because like we

were doing whatever we wanted as long as we couldn't
we couldn't mention like a name brand and you know whatever.
But like otherwise they're like, we don't understand what you're doing.
But like all right, sure we got to do some
really for a network that comes like really really really
weird stuff that that I found quite enjoyable, and that
is not the case uh many places. Yeah, so yeah, it.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Was in It was Uh did you have as much
freedom on any show after that? What do you did?
You compare it and go, man, we got away with
Murder a New Girl.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yeah, it was a little bit. I mean my next
job was after that was Single Parents, which was kind
of like a uh new Girl Extension and like so
many of the same writers and stuff were involved and
that was great, but it and also there were kids
in it, like it was obviously a much more like
family yeah, sort of like Angled show. But but yeah,

the the execs on that were much like more interested
in stuff that I'm less interested in as opposed to
like the stuff that which and listen, i mean they're
you know, they're running the world and I'm not, so
I don't I'm not saying wrong. And then yeah, girls,

I've ever was very I mean that was because I
was like over Zoom, which is a whole different because
it was you know, pandemic era and that was you know,
a little that was kooky here. But it's also hard
to get a feel for something. Not hard, but when
you're used to doing twenty two episodes for like years
and years, which is like such a you know you

there's it's just you know what the thing is in
a way that's like sometimes helpful sometimes kind of like
soul crushing. But you in compared to like with so
much of TV now, which is you know, eight episodes
and you may not even be on set for the shoot,
so you're just less kind of like, I guess, well,

I guess you're less, you're less invested in less. It's
harder for you to get angry at the execs verstay
notice stuff because you're not even really sure what's happening.
You're kind of just like, well, here you go, blast
good luck maybe, Whereas like when it's when you're like,
you know, on set and you're editing, you're you know,
sitting in and editing, and you're right, you kind of
just so much of your of your time and blood

and sweat and stomach lining goes into something that then
when they're like.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Enact I got ulcers on the show.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Yeah, well that was one of again. I said, we don't.
I said we were good about like setting goals and
then like following through like with the Bears. But with that,
we did get together and we were like, let's really
make sure we every day we ask ourselves, are we
giving them more ulcers?

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Three of them?

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Three? Oh three? Wow? See we we were just trying
for two. So that's really yeah. I've got to make
some calls after this and let everyone know what a
great job we did. We really fucked them up.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Welcome shoes.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Now it's time to open up Schmidt's Sex Email Bag,
a segment brought to you by Hulu where I answer.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
A fan question.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
My favorite thing to do. I love answering fan questions.
Please keep sending them. I love it Anna all Caps.
I'm a huge fan of New I love the relationship
between Just and CC. It reminds me a lot of
my relationship with my bestie. I love hearing you and
Zoe on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (38:08):

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Obviously, you guys became friends while on the show, and
the connection was felt in the audition. But I was
wondering if there was a moment when you realize Zoe
would be a lifelong friend. For me, was when my
besties told my ex off unprompted joways makes me feel safe.
Thank you for reading this letter.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Daniel G. Hawaii.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Wow, what was the moment I knew? You know, it's funny,
it's actually in that audition. In that audition, I'd just
flown back from shooting a show with the beautiful Katrina
balf who, as we all know from Outlander. This was
before Outlander. We were shooting a show down in Chile,
and I flew back straight to the audition. I still

had sand in my hair from shooting this desert scene
down there, sand in my hair and raced in and
did not look all glam. I was supposed to look
glam because I suppos playing this model character named Ceci.
And I remember walking in to do the audition with
Zoe and I made this joke or she made some

compliment about you know, Chilean food, and I made a
joke and she just laughed, like caught by surprise kind
of laugh. It was so genuine and there's just that
and she kind of looked at me. You know, that's
that thing when you can make someone laugh, like truly
laugh that doesn't even know you, that will to know
that would make you laugh.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
And it's like.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
My humor, which was very dry, sardonic humor, and the
fact that she got it and laughed, So I don't know,
we just got each other in that moment, and that's
like just true human chemistry where you're like, oh, you're
going to be in my world. I'm keeping you in
my world no matter what. And so it always was
a little surreal that we got to play then best friends,

knowing we would be really good friends, and then our
best friendship grew over the you know, near decade that
you work together and then have been sad ever since,
and so we created this podcast so we could keep
working together. Any excuse to see each other. Yeah, thanks
for that question, that's so nice.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
I do have a question for you that there's a
fan question, okay from Samantha Ship Samantha's Ship. She asks,
was Adam Brodie's character on New Girl named after Berkeley Johnson.
He played the role of Berkeley just as Boyfriend season
three episode execs Uh was?

Speaker 4 (40:35):
I mean it wasn't named after me. I'm involved, like
through no involvement of my own in a sense, where
like as I said earlier, I was getting real into
the like entertaining myself by just like giving characters like
crazy names and trying to you know, just sort of
sneak him out of the show. And sometimes if you're

if your episode is next to is near another episode,
you're kind of not involved with that other episode because
you're so busy with your own stuff and they're so like,
you know, they're going on production one after each other.
I had very little to do with that episode, and
I think they were like, oh, we'll call this guy
Berkeley because that'll piss Liz off. Because bub blah, but
you know whatever. And then Liz, in a very shrewd

move she saw She's like, oh no, this is great.
Leave this in. Fuck him, leave it Berkeley. And so
I got a call or right I talked to it
from that. They're like, we're so sorry we put your
name in. We didn't think she was going to keep it.
She's keeping it. And the next thing I knew it
was it was in. But what is fun is like
on the call and it's and my name is spelled

strangely because my parents decided to make it hard for me,
but they spelled it like that. So then on the
call sheet, which I still have, it's like it says
like Jess tells Berkeley she doesn't love him, and then
it's like and then the next was like Berkeley cries
and begs for Jess to come. I felt very involved.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
So they were fucking with you.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yes, tell is it Samantha Samantha Ship? That sounds like
a name you made up because you wanted to ask
this question, but I didn't.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I didn't make that up. Samantha Ship is my assistant.
Oh yeah, okay, she wanted to know. She's a huge fan.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
It is like, I wonder it is? Uh, it is?
I am. I guess I was involved and I remember.
This tells you like one zone kind of where like
then Adam was on Single Parents and I was like, Oh,

is it gonna be weird again? Is it gonna be
weird to be like, hey, I'm Berkeley. He'd be like, wait,
I played Berkeley, And like then, I'm like, this guy
has no fucking memory that he like ever played someone
in like who cares? He doesn't care. I wonder if yeah,
I could have you know, I could be like, my

name is your name from the O C And he'd
be like, I don't really remember doing that.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
It's like where's my check?

Speaker 4 (42:59):

Speaker 1 (43:02):
If you know Adam Broder, you know that's how he
gets down. Actually I don't know that.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Yeah, he loves checks.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
He's a well I would imagine, so.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Yeah, no credit cards checks.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Only checks and money orders. We're gonna have into a
segment in this show called Nick's Box.

Speaker 8 (43:20):
Okay, knicks Box is brought to you by Hyundai. When
it comes to your journey, Hyundai is thinking of every mile.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Welcome back to this segment where we crawl in the
back of Nick's closet we put out the memories that
the cast and crew of New Girl have kept hidden
for years. So let me ask you a question, Berkeley,
who was sleeping with who in the writer's room? You know,
I'm s so kidding unless you want to anser that

day Bred day. Yeah, Bred Dave a regular old Burdon Ernie,
you know, shout out to Bretton Dave. What are some
of you know, we talked about this a little bit ago,
fond memories of the show. Is there anything that sticks out,
any story, anything that you always wanted to get off
your chest, anybody that you wanted to keep praise on

or heep, you know, non praise on, anything you want
to say about your time at Nuker.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
I mean, there's so many that are of course totally
leaving my Swiss cheese brain as we speak. Just something
I thought of the other day because amazingly it almost
happened to me again, was that when this was an
episode from season one, we were outside, it was freezing,

there were all these heaters around. This was the one
where like it was, Martin Starr was in it and Derman.
It doesn't matter, but basically one of the actors had
like asked me for some sort of thing and I'd
given a note and I don't know something had happened
and and now it was a guest cast member and

she came up to me afterwards. Well we moved on
to a different scene and the cameras rolling, and she
was like, she was like, excuse me, excuse me, And
I was like, I was like, no, it was great.
You did great, Like just assume me in my own
like again sleep deprived, but just ego. I was like, well,

clearly she wants to tell me, like, hey, that was
a great note, thank you so much. I really felt good,
or even be like I didn't know, but I certainly
thought it was going to be about like this note
I'd just given that it unlocked her and it was like,
you know, I'm going to thank you when I went
an oscar and ten years or whatever. But I was like, also,
there's an other tape going and she's like, I'm just sorry.
I'm like, can we talk to it. She's like, I

just want to let you know your entire arm is
on fire, and I like, gone in my jacket was
because I've been standing close to like one of these heaters.
My jacket had caught on fire and whoa, And then
in a rare moment of coolness, was like I was
not not coolness, Like I was like I know, and
then just like it out kind of like like like

like this happens all the time in Hollywood. Your arm
catch on fire. You just be cool. But I don't
know why you're making a big ruckus. But then as
soon as it was like cut, I like ran to
the part we were shooting, like outside of Dodger statedium like,
ran to the bathroom, took off my jacket. Was like okay,
I'm okay. So that's not really like a Knicks Box

memory so much. It's just something it came to me
the other day.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
That is definitely a Knicks Box memory.

Speaker 4 (46:35):

Speaker 1 (46:36):
In fact, it might be. It might be the greatest one.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
It might this we may have ended the Knicks Box segments.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
That might have been the greatest one.

Speaker 8 (46:45):
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to buying to owning, Hyundai has your back. Like our
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Speaker 1 (47:02):
I had to drop a deuce really bad in an
episode and I was begging, like begging someone to like
call cut so I could go to the bathroom and
do so. It was bad. It was I forgot what
I had salsa or something else. And people remind me
of that often. Yeah, you almost you almost burned like
Michael Jackson did in that Pepsi video. Yeah, and no

one talked about this.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
That's that's the double edged sort of like you know,
being a writer versus being talent, Like everyone knows what
you're up to, what you're up to, good and bad.
But that's we just kind of like, you know, slip
slip quietly through the night, like you know, doing great
stuff and people are like eh or like almost you know,
bring alive and be like eh, it's it's uh.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Well I can say, uh, I can say, and I
can speak for myself, the rest of the cast and
all the fans of New Girl out there, we are very,
very appreciative of all the great stuff that you have
brought to television, my friend into I think the greatest
show of all time New Girl. I'm not just saying

that because I'm on it, well mainly i am, but
but I do want to say thank you man, thank
you for being on the show. Thank you for humoring
me even though my co hosts bailed on me and
ditched me. But thank you, thank you for being a
part of this man.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
Yeah, you tell them that if if I'm not a
big enough draw, yeah, that you will not tell them
that you had this ship story. And then they wouldn't
like because that was just for you and me, because
they're not here and they missed it.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
They definitely missed it. They definitely missed it.

Speaker 4 (48:46):

Speaker 1 (48:47):
I love you, man, I love you so much. Thank
you for being here.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
I love you man. It's great to see you have
fun that you're in Calgary.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Correct, I'm in Calgary. Yeah, all right, that's why I
have this weird mustache.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Ye I like it.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Thank you, Maya, thank.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
You very much.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Okay, folks, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Let's give a big round of applause to Berkeley Johnson
for joining us today to help break down this episode.
We truly do appreciate it. Now, make sure to go
like and subscribe and also turn on your notifications and
all that fun stuff. Send in your questions, comments and concerns.
Go by our merchant. As always, make sure to treat
each other with kindness and love. Peace.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
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of iHeartRadio, hosted by Zoe Deschanel, Lamur And Morris and
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Speaker 4 (50:00):
Thanks for listening.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
We'll hear you next week.
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