October 26, 2021 • 42 mins
Ah yes, the warehouse foreman who blessed us with “dinkin flicka” and served as the voice of reason in all the insanity. Craig Robinson AKA Mr. Darryl Philbin himself joins Brian in the studio to chat about singing his way into booty calls, Steve’s ability to make you laugh without using words, and the panic he felt in his audition with Greg Daniels.
Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
From Cavalry Audio, the studio that brought you The Devil
Within and The Shadow Girls, comes a new true crime podcast,
The Pink Moon Murders. The local sheriff believes there may
be more than one killery. They were afraid it is
facing out in that area. The family was targeted, most
of them targeted while they were sleeping. The Pink Moon
(00:21):
Murders is available on February twenty second, and you can
follow The Pink Moon Murders on the I Heart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What Girls
in the Forest our imagination and our family bonds. The
forest is closer than you think. Find a forest near
you and discover the fort dot org brought to you
(00:41):
by the United States Forest Service and the AD Council.
Give us over attention. We need everything you've got. Fast
Waiting on reparations would beat the Illess podcast. Tune in
every Thursday. Politics and wordplay. We fight for the people
because they got us in the worst way, from the
Hill Cooper, the Bob Bay to Kant, from the f
Don Claves and with the Neo kan to break us
(01:05):
off with some break because we waits. Listen to Waiting
on reparations on I Heart Radio, app, Apple Podcasts or
wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Craig Robinson and
I played Darryl Philbin on The Office. Hello everybody, and
(01:33):
welcome back to a brand new episode of the Office
Deep Dive, this time with the hardest working man in showbiz. Nope,
not our guest, me your host Brian bung Werner. Just kidding.
You'll get that after you listen to the episode. Uh Today,
as you just heard, I'm bringing on possibly the most
(01:55):
ambitious and certainly the most competent employee at dunder Mifflin.
That's right, the voice of reason in all of the insanity,
the incredible Craig Robinson. Like so many of the characters
on The Office, a lot of the inspiration, as you'll
hear for Darryl Philbin came from Craig's real personality. He
(02:18):
is an incredible musician and a hilarious comedian. Greg Daniels
actually discovered him by seeing him perform perhaps one of
the greatest comedy songs of all time, Somebody's Working, Mi Lady. Now.
Despite the name, and despite the fact that Craig admits
(02:39):
to singing his way into booty calls. He insists that
his act is a great place to take a date,
and I agree, I highly recommended. Craig is amazing. In
addition to his work on the Office, he's gone on
to work on many other amazing projects, from Brooklyn nine
nine to Hot Tub Time Sheen to Cleveland Show and
(03:02):
American Dad. I know you've all been waiting to hear
from him, and I am so excited that today is
finally the day, even though he didn't teach me any
super cool new phrases like think and flicker. But before
we dive in, just wanted to give you a quick
reminder that the world's best book, if I do say
so myself, or holiday present or late night reading, is
(03:25):
already available right now for pre order on Amazon. It
is called Welcome to dunder Mifflin, The Ultimate Oral History
of the Office. So go check that out and get
ready to be overtaken with your love for the show.
But for now, the time has come to welcome our
very own warehouse foreman and my good friend, Craig Robinson. Bubble,
(03:55):
I love it, Bubble, Bubble and squeaker cooking every more
left over from the nabople What's what's up? How you
(04:18):
doing so? I mean, I'm good. It's been so long
since I saw you? How long? I mean a couple
of years. It's been a few what's new in your life?
I mean, I'm doing this right now. I'm on the
road a lot you. Oh yeah, yeah, what's this thing on? Yeah,
(04:39):
it's probably on. We start already. We'll not really tell
the truth, man, I mean it's it's recording, but I'm
just interested in stay. What's up? Okay? Um? Check check
check check? Are you checking your sound? Yeah? Are you
a sound expert? Well, you're a musician, so yeah. I
mean I don't know if it's going louder or something there.
(05:04):
Did I ever tell you the story? This is before
I think we had done the pilot only and I
hadn't been in l a very long. Did I ever
tell you going the Mbar story? For real? I went
to the Mbar and they used to do like an
open mic night, and somebody was like, oh, go to
the m Bar. I think I knew somebody who was
(05:26):
like a server there, and I remember it was David
Cross was there, and Sarah Silverman some other people and
you you were so far in away the funniest thing
that night. Well, you had a guy with h I
think me and Jerry did. Yeah. Yeah. How many shows
(05:48):
you do a year? I mean how many cities? Oh shows,
shows are like, you know, five sometimes seven a weekend,
so I probably do third Are you thirty plus weeks?
Are you? Jesus if I'm not feeling myself? So you're
the hardest working manag show business. Not not by a
(06:08):
long show. Um, okay, So rewind back like two thousand
three four? What were you doing before the office came on?
H stand up? Doing much stand up? And you know,
I had some parts here and there. Um did a
(06:30):
show called Lucky. I was on FX and then uh,
great show, thank you Commy. Yeah that was that was
lightning in a bottle right there, man. And then yeah
it was two thousand one we started four yeah, okay,
so yeah, so Lucky and then about to stand up.
(06:53):
I'm not sure. Did you do Second City? Yeah? Chicago? Yeah?
I did the training sent I didn't do the Okay,
I just did it, went through all the classes. Okay. Um,
you incorporate music a lot into your stand up. Do
you think that Darryl being a musician on the show,
did that come from you. Do you think the writers
(07:14):
wrote that? Yeah, they they we were like a towel
being rung up. They got whatever. But whatever they knew
we could do, they got it out of this right. Absolutely. Yeah,
you started pretty early. I mean I remember that Christmas
episode you and I think we were djaying in the
(07:34):
corner and then gradually you started. Yeah, we had like,
uh what do you call those little balls that with
the lights and UHC disco ball? Obviously, I mean for
people who don't know, music comes very easy to you. Yes,
I have seen people hum you tunes and you start playing, well,
(07:58):
yeah trained here Is it trained or is it natural?
I mean both. You have to sit down and like,
like there's time I was sitting, like, play a song
and let's breakdown note for no, each chord, rewind it
to play again. We want to play it again until
I get and go through the whole song and it.
Once you do that, you know, sometimes you start you know,
(08:20):
see patterns and you know, see what's going on in
the song. So that's how you learned. Do you read music? Yeah,
but how you do not? Like I can hear me.
It takes me a while to read some music, but
I can hear pretty good. You hear better than anyone
I've ever seen. Okay, no, I'm just saying I'm trying.
(08:44):
I don't know, but but you trained yourself to do that.
I think people think about it as being sort of
a natural gift, but no, it's definitely a gift. But
it's it's you know, it's a gift. You have to
work for it. It's like you you gotta know you
have the talent to do it, and then just developed
that right. I remember later on they kept pairing me
(09:10):
with you and Ed Helms in musical situations, the z
Kevin and the Zitz. There was Kevin and the Zitz,
and I remember we would you know, we never had
time to read the episodes before we did them, and
we would read the episodes and they would be like song, song, song,
and I don't know if you knew this. I would
(09:30):
go to them and I would be like, okay, when
is rehearsals? When is rehearsals? And then I would come
to you and I'd be like all right, you guys,
can we and you'd be like yeah, yeah, no, we're good,
We're good, and Ed be the same way, like as like, no,
that's fine, no, I got it, and I was like, no, no, no, guys,
I don't have it. I don't know what the hell
I'm doing. Um there's a quote that has been attributed
(09:51):
to you, which that you basically started doing music because
it's there were so many funny people in Chicago that
you wanted to do something that was different. And what
is that true? Not exactly? Um, I just you know,
it's my thing. And I had the song that I
(10:13):
did in college that transferred over to the stage. I
would be like, play, you know, piano the same I'm
singing to a girl on the phone, you know, singing
a nice and like talking to a singing to a
little bit. You know, it's romantic, and I hit up
with it. Can I had some booty right, and then
I was like, okay him, listen to see if she's laughing.
(10:34):
And watched it so she's laughing. Okay, we're good. But
so then I did that, like I don't know, some
open mic kind of thing. But it wasn't the open mic.
It was like, you know, actors in the room on
a Friday night, like you know, and then you just
did what you do. So they want to start doing comedy.
(10:54):
I went up and did this show, and uh, it
didn't go too well. Let's just think I'll heckless heaven.
It's in Chicago, and you get eight minutes to perform
the first three minutes, nobody gets the mess with you.
From the third minute on if people wanted to hecker you.
There are three people in the audience who have rubber chickens.
If you've got all three rubber chickens, you had to
(11:15):
get off stage. And then, uh, three people have score cards.
So I got two rubber chickens the first night and
before I get to there like I'm not getting a
third chicken, It's good night. Then the next week I
came back with my keyboard. That's all she wrote. You
did the song that ends with your buddy getting the phone. Um,
(11:36):
somebody's sucking my lady. Somebody's sucking my lady. Yeah, somebody's Yeah.
That's that's what you saw. That's what I saw at mbark.
That's what got me like. They got me in front
of Apple Town to get me in front of Greg Daniels. Yeah.
When I did my audition for the Office, Great Games
was like, doesn't get any funny into that. I was like, okay, now,
(11:59):
audition like, Oh, what like it seems like a big
vote of confidence, right, I'm thinking like, oh man, it's
a hard time for hiring, so you need a hiring
(12:19):
partner built for hard times. That's Indeed. If you're hiring,
you need Indeed because Indeed is the hiring partner where
you can attract, interview, and hire all in one place.
And Indeed is the only job site where you're guaranteed
to find quality applications that meet your must have requirements
or else you don't pay. Instead of spending hours on
(12:42):
multiple job sites hoping to find candidates with the right skills,
you need one hiring partner that can help you do
it all. Indeed partners with you on every step of
the hiring process, find great talent through time saving tools
like Indeed, instant match assessments and virtual interviews. With instant Match,
as soon as you sponsor a post, you get a
(13:04):
short list of quality candidates with resumes on Indeed that
match your job description and you can invite them to
apply right away. Plus, you only pay for quality applications
that meet your must have requirements. Join more than three
million businesses worldwide that use Indeed to hire great talent Fast.
(13:26):
Start hiring right now with a seventy five dollar sponsored
job credit to upgrade your job post at indeed dot
com Slash office Deep Dive offer valid through March thirty one.
Go to indeed dot com Slash office Deep Dive to
claim your seventy five dollar credit before marche. Indeed dot
Com Slash Office Deep Dive terms and conditions apply. Need
(13:49):
to hire you Need Indeed. From Cavalry Audio, the studio
that brought you The Devil Within and The Shadow Goes,
comes a new true crime podcast, The Pink Moon Murders.
The local sheriff believes there may be more than one killer.
It's been four days since those bodies were found and
(14:10):
there's no arrest as it this morning. They were afraid
it's face it out in that area, what if they
come back or whatever. It scared me to death, Like
it scared me, I was very very intimidating to live here.
Crazy to think you go to sleep one night, maybe
snuggling with your loved one, and never wake up, or
maybe you wake up in a struggle for your life,
which you lose. Joint host David Radiman as he explores
(14:31):
one fateful night when evil descended upon small town, Ohio,
killed eight members of an Ohio family in a pre
planned execution. The family was targeted, most of them targeted
while they were sleeping. The Pink Moon Murders is available
on February twenty second, and you can follow The Pink
Moon Murders on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts
or wherever you get your podcasts. The art world it
(14:54):
is essentially a money laundering business. The best bakes are
still hanging on people's walls. You know, they don't even
know or suspect that their faces. I'm Alec Baldwin and
this is a podcast about deception, greed and forgery in
the art world. You knew the painting was fake. Um,
(15:16):
listen to Art Fraud on the I Heart Radio app,
Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you
(15:42):
do Lucky? And then you're doing stand up? And then
how did you did you know about the office before
you came on? Saul the British pilot on an airplane, okay,
And I was dying right, and I was like, damn,
I wish I could find that, you know. And one
(16:02):
day I was like drumming past seven eleven and I
saw the picture David Brent. Now that's that's the dude
from this show, you know. And then I end up
getting the audition. No, I didn't know much about except
for that pilot. And when you got the audition was
did you think it was just for one episode or
were they saying like you may come around. No, it
(16:25):
was just I mean it was it was the first season,
so you didn't even know, you know, what was going on.
So I just came in, did the did the audition,
and they called me later after y'all get well on
the way, I was established an episode for Yeah, And
did you know Allison Jones before that? I don't know
(16:47):
if I worked with Alison. I'm not before that. No,
you know what let missing? I think I had gotten
forty yeo, I'm sorry, knocked up? How did I do that?
Everybody does that to me? Fort Your Virgin? Like, no,
it's knocked up, knocked up and I just messed it up.
I got auditioned for Fortio Virgin, but I didn't get that,
(17:08):
but I did get knocked up, So I'm not sure
exactly what you want happen right right right? But did
you know that it was had the possibility to to
recur at that point or zero idea of just doing
a job, right, What was different for you or was
there anything different for you in terms of the way
(17:29):
that the show was shot. Yeah, that was that was
way different. Like everything else was like a movie was
you know, the two cameras doing a thing, but nobody
was swinging cameras around. Right. I feel like Darryl, you know,
even from the beginning, had kind of a gem thing
with the camera, like it felt like you were on
(17:50):
the same page, Like you would do the looks to
the camera like did you just see that idiot. I
don't get a lot of camera looks untill later, but
people do say, yeah, see me as a voice of
reason and in all the insanity. Yeah, Ben Silverman says
that you're the smartest person who worked a Dunner Mifflin. Well, no,
(18:12):
not you, but Darryl right right, right right, I can
see that. Yeah, Daryl was just trying to you know,
be honest, make an honest buck, and I couldn't believe
a lot of things that I was going around him.
And you know, he knew he had to keep the
peace and knew he had to uh keep his job.
So I don't I don't think he has worked out
(18:35):
smart in these cats. He just was, you know, just
like would you believe these cats? You know, but it
felt like, you know, they showed a lot that the
warehouse maybe was run more efficiently than the regular office.
Like you were well, you were good. Yeah. Um. Darryl's
(18:55):
relationship with Michael in the show, it was a very
like he kept coming to you for advice, particularly on
black culture. It was a very very funny dynamic. What
was your experience working with Steve? He's the greatest. The
way he could turn it comedy button off and on
(19:19):
like a falsett. It was just genius to me. Whenever
I had a scene with him on it, and I
was like, titilation was holy, you know, very exciting. And
I learned from him, stole from him all of that. Yeah,
it's funny that you said you said that, because I
thought you were going to say something else, which I
(19:40):
think is also true. Is part of his genius is
how he turns so quick even within a scene, you
know what I mean, Like he is he is fighting
down one path and something may happen and he just
turns it like that and he's like, you know, ultimate
scene part of two. He listens and acts two. You
(20:02):
know what's going on? Like, we had a scene I
didn't even really notice until it aired. It was a negotiation.
It might be my favorite episode just because of the
work I did with Steve and being able to play
with him like that. It was a scene where he's like,
I'm not going to speak first, like decline to speak first.
(20:27):
So we did a couple of takes and it was fine. Uh,
And then he did his next take and he's making
these faces and if you look closely, you could see
Meet started crack a smile on that. But it was
just like, without even speaking, he could, you know, pull
us out of you. The laughter is like, oh, he's
(20:49):
about to get me. But also in that episode when
I was saying, uh, where he listens and you know,
like the perfect improvisation partner, You're listening and take it
to the next level. So we's talking about, you know,
getting a raise from Jane. I said, make it happen, Captain,
he said, I will, Sergeant God game amazing. Do you
(21:20):
think that your relationship with him evolved throughout the show. Yeah,
but I think everybody's everybody evolved in this show. Everybody
I went through character development. Um, you know, that's one
of the things that makes it what it is. People
got to know these people, right. But yeah, I think
(21:40):
every every situation evolved to something. I mean, you started
out and your episodes were mainly about like the office
versus the warehouse, whether directly in basketball or like a
weird class thing where you have like the white collar
and the blue collar. Talk to me about the transition
for you character wise or as an actor of you
(22:03):
finally coming up and being a regular part of like
the bullpen characterized. Um, it felt like like it did
in real life, like oh many and making you a
regular you know what I'm saying. So definitely a move
on up for Craig, INFI, Darryl, you know. And it
(22:24):
was like more responsibility. And Rain used to say I
had the sweetest schedule in Hollywood because I would come
in for like an episode here and then four weeks
later come in to the Christmas episode. But yeah, character wiz,
it was it was like, yeah, step up and okay,
let's starting to see you know, starting to feel me.
(22:45):
And for Craig myself, it was like, hey, this is
this is awesome, Like because I didn't understand like I
thought we were a year to year like every other show.
You know, you don't know, you don't know, But it
was something about the offered, like like I remember one
one year and they were like many was like, yeah,
we're gonna be dating, and it didn't happen for a year,
(23:07):
and I kind of forget about. In the next year
we were dating. I was like, Oh, that's that's interesting.
How don't know we're gonna be picked up? You know,
I guess you don't know what you do that kind
of I wasn't, you know, none of those conversations. So
one of the people that I've talked to is uh
(23:28):
TV critic, and she talked about The Office. One of
the things that was notable about it was that it
was She defined it as casually diverse. Do you feel
like the Office in terms of race or your experience?
Do you feel like it it did something right or
wrong in terms of that it presented us as people?
(23:49):
And now all right with me, I don't notice right
or wrong. I think casually diverse is a great way
to put it. But it just, you know, we would
regularly it would look like a real office. We weren't like,
you know, models walking around. It was so proper dialogue.
(24:09):
This was like, just Okay, these are people someone probably
have some mentally know problems that they need to take
care of, right there, unleashed on society and it's fine.
Do you think the show did anything in terms of
a positive message in terms of diversity or race? I
(24:32):
mean you were nominated for three and double A CP Awards,
correct lost a three though, Nick Cannon, Ice Cube and
somebody else. But um, I mean people from all walks
of life love the Office, So I I wish I
(24:53):
could speak to that specifically somebody you know, and somebody
would be like, you know what, I had a problem
back people, But it's just that show. You know, I
don't know, right, I just don't know that answer. You
know what's funny? This is kind of side note. Someone
pointed this out that in Christmas Party we were talking
about before season two, Michael tells Darryl that he can't
(25:15):
wear a Santa hat, and eight years later Megan Kelly
there was a controversy was started by Santa Claus White kids. Yeah,
like he was before anyone ever knew who Meg and
Kelly was. He was making a joke out of what
she would say in the future calling America. Yeah, um,
(25:37):
do you do that in your comedy race? Yeah? Stuff,
We're just about America. No, not really, No, I have
a date x my acting mostly for like lovers. It's
a great date night. I mean it's for everybody, but
it's a couples get. I don't know, a boost out
(25:58):
of it, a boot, like a sexual boost, something you give,
a sexual boost, something that gally happens. I'm definitely about
the you know, the relationship. But interesting, I wonder what
my vibe is. I don't think it's that Hello, Hello, Hi,
(26:26):
Oh my god. I want to come through the screen
and hug you. Hey, everybody. Jessica's are here, also known
as Vanessa Abrams on Gossip Girl. I am so excited
to share my new podcast with you guys. It's called
x O x O and it's a walk down memory
lane all about Gossip Girl. I'll chat with some of
the cast crew fans of the show, and I'm just
(26:47):
so pumped for you guys to go on this journey
with me. All Right, I made Westwick. I played Chuck Bass.
I just can't believe that I did that. With my
life Jay. We had like the most amazing time. Listen
to XO X on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts. On the latest season
(27:08):
of the Next Question with Katie correct podcast, Katie dives
into Well Katie Here, exclusive podcast only conversations between Katie
and the people who made her memoir Going There Possible.
We spent a lot of time together around a dining
room table here and in the city, and you know,
it was a very intense experience. All episodes of Next
(27:30):
Question with Katie Couric are available now. Listen on the
I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get
your podcasts. And we're live here outside the Perez family home,
just waiting for the and there they go, almost on time.
This morning, Mom is coming off the front door strong
with a double arm kid carry. Looks like Dad has
the bags. Daughter's bringing up the rear. Oh but the
(27:54):
diaper bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere. Oh
but Mom has just nailed the perfect car seat buckle
for the toddler. And now the eldest daughter, who looks
to be about nine or ten, has secured herself in
the booster seat. Dad SIPs the bad clothes and they're off,
but looks like Mom doesn't realize her coffee cup is
(28:15):
still on the roof of the car, and there it goes.
That's a shame that mug was a fan favorite. Don't
sweat the small stuff, just nailed the big stuff, like
making sure your kids are buckled correctly in the right
seat for their agent's eyes. Learn more n h t
s A dot gov slash the Right Seat visits n
h s A dot gov slash the Right Seat brought
(28:36):
to you by NITZA and the ad Council. Darryll eventually
interviews to be the new manager. Did you want that job? Why?
(28:57):
I just didn't, And they would talking about me being it,
and I was, And when time I went up to Paul,
I'm like, hey, man, just uh, you know, just put
that in your pocket game of dollar, like you're thinking
about the managed, But I was. No. I did not
want to be managing. I thought that was interesting that
my name got brought up and it was cool and
and you know, I thought about it, but that would
(29:19):
be like and all that, But no, it seemed like
it looked like a lot of work, way different than
rain talking about your schedule coming In one episode four yeah,
but the path to that, Oh, it was amazing. Uh,
(29:40):
it's gonna Cassy Bates and Will Ferrell, Will James James Spader.
I looked back at some of those episodes like, that's right,
that actually happened, Spade. It was incredible, man, God damn. Yeah.
How was it like working with you know once Eve laughed?
(30:00):
Working with those guys. I mean, these are legends coming
in and you just like hanging out. You no battle trailer,
what's up? Catherine Tate? Catherine Tate, who I don't know
anything about Melanan That's that's my homies still to this day,
she's the best Spader. How is working with Spader different
(30:21):
than Steve Well, I mean, you know Spader, he's how
do you describe the guy? He's his own world, he's
his own I don't know. It was cool. It was
real cool. He was, you know, chatty and you know,
say what's up and it's smoothed with it, but you
know he's got that weird, creepy funny and Steve was
(30:45):
just like a falsetto just whatever you needed. And then
Spade of Dight, they wrote to him beautifully. Yeah. He
It was just interesting how they just approached it in
a totally opposite way from like really wanting a crafted
acting performance to way more sort of improv fass Ale. Yeah,
(31:12):
you were talking before about the leading up to Darryl
becoming the manager and getting to work with all of
those people. I mean that was that was a huge
storyline for you. I mean, and then eventually you going
off and working with Jim. Do you think today Darryl
would still be working with Jim at the Athlete Athlete
Oh yeah, oh yeah, they be at all no dope
(31:36):
games and killing it hecky yeah. I mean, I'm sure
he would have found another way to rise on his point,
but uh, maybe he was in his own company. Who
knows Daryl was ambitious? Yeah. Uh again going back to
Ben's talking about Darryl being the smartest person in the office,
(31:57):
but he was overlooked a lot. I sort of like,
you know, like Kevin was overlooked um in the basketball episode,
like where I was like, oh, yeah, of course that
guy can't play, and then you know you exactly, Daryl,
You really are an athletes, really, I am. I mean
we got a soft ball killed, bro, you killed Oh
(32:21):
I forgot about that. The beasts stuff We're like, okay, okay,
don't make me run that fast. That's all. Hit it
far up so that they hit it far up so
I don't have to run so fast. Yeah, but Daryl,
but it felt like Darryl kept being overlooked, at least
by Michael. I mean he was in the warehouse, he
(32:44):
put in the you know, trying we looked at I
guess what was your negotiation? Was that your favorite episode? Probably? Yeah,
just the sheer amount of work Mike an idea and
they said people don't only only want I called him Mike.
That's right. I didn't even realize that. Yeah, you're the
(33:06):
only one who called him Mike. Um, what was it?
What was it like for you working with Krasinski? How
was he different than Steve? And he's a pain in
the ass. But other than that, it was that John
always struck me. I mean he just knew like he
feel like he was, you know, just just brilliant dude.
(33:28):
You know, uh, I love his directing and he's funny,
you know when he wanted to be, but he was
the more the leading man kind of dude. Yeah, but
you know, he was always cool man. It was great
in the finale. Um do you remember what happens in
(33:49):
the finale We all go back to Scratton like a
year later and we do that Q and a panel
on the show. Yeah, and l A and her parents
are there. My god, what card thinking about it? Yeah?
Joelqu sick? Was it sad? Sad to watch on? Uh
in that moment with Ellie and because I don't know
(34:10):
what was going on? Right? Yeah, that was pretty you know,
rinching well and Creed singing the song all the faces
he sings that and then Jenna takes the painting off
the wall and goes outside. Oh yeah, I do remember that.
Jens Alotta talked about that. Greg used to talk about
the show was like a giant parking lot that goes
(34:34):
on forever, Like as far as you can see, there's
just asphalt everywhere, and then just line parking space, parking space,
handicapped space, and that just goes on and on, he said.
But then when you start to look closer, you see
the little cracks in the parking lot, and every once
in a while there's just a little teeny flower that
(34:54):
comes up out of the ground. And examining that beauty
in a waste land was what the show was trying
to do. I think that's why it relates to people.
One of the many reasons. Of course, have you ever
seen Greg going to his own like what so we
were doing this shows what in the office it was
(35:18):
Mr Robins, Mr Robinson. Yeah, so we the pitch like
the big pitch was like later on the the day
and uh and Catskey was there. Tracy shout out Tracy
and she had to move. She's like, great, we gotta go.
And Greg went into this feverish, fierce like you saw
(35:40):
his brain work and he started writing and banging. It
was it was like watching Michaelangelo paint or something. It
was it was like, Oh, this is happening right now
in front of me, dude, is incredible. Salute Greg Nagels. Yeah.
(36:00):
When when he was doing it, going into his writing
mode and cast Key was trying to set Greg we go,
he almost like you know, like he was typing. It was.
It was it was amazing, bro. Wow, he was just
he like he had an idea and he had do
I swear it was like watching Harry Potter or something.
(36:22):
It was. It was magic. It was like a whirldwind
around him and he almost barked at her which she
trying to get it to go. Yeah, see the smartest
comedy person you know. Yes, I'm to say absolutely A
do love working with Greg. I mean he couldn't be
(36:42):
a nicer guy, you know, and then smartest dude in
every room. Yeah, what are you? What are you most
thankful for? For the Office? Um, you know, when you
meet people, it's it's this genuine like like it feels
(37:03):
like you you have friends everywhere, and that's, uh, that's
a big part of my life because you know, these
friends come out, they support my shows and what have you.
And it's a lot of like the deeper goals. You know,
people had these stories of you know, my my uh
(37:24):
mother had cancer and you know we watched The Office
and you know, we got through this and it will
be these incredible heart wrenching stories about our family. We
don't talk, but we bond over the Office. You know.
Thank you asking me, You're like, why why the hell
is the show still relevant? And I think that's that's
(37:46):
a big part of it. People really connect through the
show with family members or whoever. Right, why do you
think it resonates? I mean, here was my impression anyway
that people are like, oh, the office. Yeah, people can
relate because sixty million people work in offices around the country.
(38:08):
So of course, now like it's young people who are
really into it. Soldiers for sure, man um yeah, and
you young people like starting and people are like, yeah,
I'm on my knight, nice time around watching it or
we watched it, you know, three times or four times.
You know, it's a phenomenon. I don't know how to
(38:30):
put my finger on it. I think that awkwardness. You know,
it's got everything that humor, awkward, it's got heart, you
fall in love with people. You know, it's a beautiful.
So yeah, alright, guys, do we need anything else from
Mr Robinson here? No predictors, murn good, Thanks buddy, You're welcome,
(38:58):
sir dude, it's been oh crazy, I've seen everyone, uh John,
Johannah Rain. I'm sure this is the most boring interview.
I'm suck at these things. Just good ladies and gentlemen,
(39:32):
the man himself, Craig Robinson. Craig, it's so good to
see you, and I think we can all agree that
you're anything but boring. Thank you for taking the time
to stop by, and thank you, my favorite listeners for
tuning in you're in luck because today we've got a
double whammy of a release, So make sure you go
(39:54):
check out round two of my conversation with director Ken
kopp Us right now. I will see you over there
the Office. Deep Dive is hosted and executive produced by
me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer, Lang Lee. Our
(40:18):
senior producer is Tessa Kramer. Our producers for this episode
are Liz Hayes and Diego Tapia. My main man in
the booth is Alec Moore. Our theme song Bubble and
Squeak performed by my great friend Creed Bratton, and the
episode was mixed by seth Olandsky. Big Brother, North Koreae
(40:58):
Forgotten Prince is a new true crime podcast that dives
deep into the life and mysterious assassination of the man
once destined to be North Korea's next dictator. Join me
Eaten Lee as we investigate a twisting tale of espionage, palas, gossip,
and political backstabbing, and dive into the motives and suspects
behind the most bizarre assassination plot of the century. Listen
(41:19):
to Big Brother on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast,
or wherever you get your podcasts coming February. Hello, this
is Christina Hutchinson and Karin Fisher. We're thrilled to announce
that our show, Guys, We the Anti plot Schaming Podcast,
is returning to wide release. That's right, every Friday, we
talked to one of our favorite comedians or an expert
(41:40):
in the field of sexuality, love and relationships to hear
what all the fos are about. Subscribe now and listen
to the Luminary original podcast. Guys. We've starting January one
on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever
you get your podcasts. Roses are read, She shot six
times and violets are blue. It's almost like her dream
(42:04):
man came into her life. Are you looking for love?
I do anything for you? And a little murder too.
She would kill her own daughters to get away with it.
He has a weapon, dropped a gun in honor of
Valentine's Day. Listen to Crazy and Love the entire month
of February on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts. What can I say?
(42:27):
Love made Me crazy?
From Cavalry Audio, the studio that brought you The Devil
Within and The Shadow Girls, comes a new true crime podcast,
The Pink Moon Murders. The local sheriff believes there may
be more than one killery. They were afraid it is
facing out in that area. The family was targeted, most
of them targeted while they were sleeping. The Pink Moon
(00:21):
Murders is available on February twenty second, and you can
follow The Pink Moon Murders on the I Heart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What Girls
in the Forest our imagination and our family bonds. The
forest is closer than you think. Find a forest near
you and discover the fort dot org brought to you
(00:41):
by the United States Forest Service and the AD Council.
Give us over attention. We need everything you've got. Fast
Waiting on reparations would beat the Illess podcast. Tune in
every Thursday. Politics and wordplay. We fight for the people
because they got us in the worst way, from the
Hill Cooper, the Bob Bay to Kant, from the f
Don Claves and with the Neo kan to break us
(01:05):
off with some break because we waits. Listen to Waiting
on reparations on I Heart Radio, app, Apple Podcasts or
wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Craig Robinson and
I played Darryl Philbin on The Office. Hello everybody, and
(01:33):
welcome back to a brand new episode of the Office
Deep Dive, this time with the hardest working man in showbiz. Nope,
not our guest, me your host Brian bung Werner. Just kidding.
You'll get that after you listen to the episode. Uh Today,
as you just heard, I'm bringing on possibly the most
(01:55):
ambitious and certainly the most competent employee at dunder Mifflin.
That's right, the voice of reason in all of the insanity,
the incredible Craig Robinson. Like so many of the characters
on The Office, a lot of the inspiration, as you'll
hear for Darryl Philbin came from Craig's real personality. He
(02:18):
is an incredible musician and a hilarious comedian. Greg Daniels
actually discovered him by seeing him perform perhaps one of
the greatest comedy songs of all time, Somebody's Working, Mi Lady. Now.
Despite the name, and despite the fact that Craig admits
(02:39):
to singing his way into booty calls. He insists that
his act is a great place to take a date,
and I agree, I highly recommended. Craig is amazing. In
addition to his work on the Office, he's gone on
to work on many other amazing projects, from Brooklyn nine
nine to Hot Tub Time Sheen to Cleveland Show and
(03:02):
American Dad. I know you've all been waiting to hear
from him, and I am so excited that today is
finally the day, even though he didn't teach me any
super cool new phrases like think and flicker. But before
we dive in, just wanted to give you a quick
reminder that the world's best book, if I do say
so myself, or holiday present or late night reading, is
(03:25):
already available right now for pre order on Amazon. It
is called Welcome to dunder Mifflin, The Ultimate Oral History
of the Office. So go check that out and get
ready to be overtaken with your love for the show.
But for now, the time has come to welcome our
very own warehouse foreman and my good friend, Craig Robinson. Bubble,
(03:55):
I love it, Bubble, Bubble and squeaker cooking every more
left over from the nabople What's what's up? How you
(04:18):
doing so? I mean, I'm good. It's been so long
since I saw you? How long? I mean a couple
of years. It's been a few what's new in your life?
I mean, I'm doing this right now. I'm on the
road a lot you. Oh yeah, yeah, what's this thing on? Yeah,
(04:39):
it's probably on. We start already. We'll not really tell
the truth, man, I mean it's it's recording, but I'm
just interested in stay. What's up? Okay? Um? Check check
check check? Are you checking your sound? Yeah? Are you
a sound expert? Well, you're a musician, so yeah. I
mean I don't know if it's going louder or something there.
(05:04):
Did I ever tell you the story? This is before
I think we had done the pilot only and I
hadn't been in l a very long. Did I ever
tell you going the Mbar story? For real? I went
to the Mbar and they used to do like an
open mic night, and somebody was like, oh, go to
the m Bar. I think I knew somebody who was
(05:26):
like a server there, and I remember it was David
Cross was there, and Sarah Silverman some other people and
you you were so far in away the funniest thing
that night. Well, you had a guy with h I
think me and Jerry did. Yeah. Yeah. How many shows
(05:48):
you do a year? I mean how many cities? Oh shows,
shows are like, you know, five sometimes seven a weekend,
so I probably do third Are you thirty plus weeks?
Are you? Jesus if I'm not feeling myself? So you're
the hardest working manag show business. Not not by a
(06:08):
long show. Um, okay, So rewind back like two thousand
three four? What were you doing before the office came on?
H stand up? Doing much stand up? And you know,
I had some parts here and there. Um did a
(06:30):
show called Lucky. I was on FX and then uh,
great show, thank you Commy. Yeah that was that was
lightning in a bottle right there, man. And then yeah
it was two thousand one we started four yeah, okay,
so yeah, so Lucky and then about to stand up.
(06:53):
I'm not sure. Did you do Second City? Yeah? Chicago? Yeah?
I did the training sent I didn't do the Okay,
I just did it, went through all the classes. Okay. Um,
you incorporate music a lot into your stand up. Do
you think that Darryl being a musician on the show,
did that come from you. Do you think the writers
(07:14):
wrote that? Yeah, they they we were like a towel
being rung up. They got whatever. But whatever they knew
we could do, they got it out of this right. Absolutely. Yeah,
you started pretty early. I mean I remember that Christmas
episode you and I think we were djaying in the
(07:34):
corner and then gradually you started. Yeah, we had like,
uh what do you call those little balls that with
the lights and UHC disco ball? Obviously, I mean for
people who don't know, music comes very easy to you. Yes,
I have seen people hum you tunes and you start playing, well,
(07:58):
yeah trained here Is it trained or is it natural?
I mean both. You have to sit down and like,
like there's time I was sitting, like, play a song
and let's breakdown note for no, each chord, rewind it
to play again. We want to play it again until
I get and go through the whole song and it.
Once you do that, you know, sometimes you start you know,
(08:20):
see patterns and you know, see what's going on in
the song. So that's how you learned. Do you read music? Yeah,
but how you do not? Like I can hear me.
It takes me a while to read some music, but
I can hear pretty good. You hear better than anyone
I've ever seen. Okay, no, I'm just saying I'm trying.
(08:44):
I don't know, but but you trained yourself to do that.
I think people think about it as being sort of
a natural gift, but no, it's definitely a gift. But
it's it's you know, it's a gift. You have to
work for it. It's like you you gotta know you
have the talent to do it, and then just developed
that right. I remember later on they kept pairing me
(09:10):
with you and Ed Helms in musical situations, the z
Kevin and the Zitz. There was Kevin and the Zitz,
and I remember we would you know, we never had
time to read the episodes before we did them, and
we would read the episodes and they would be like song, song, song,
and I don't know if you knew this. I would
(09:30):
go to them and I would be like, okay, when
is rehearsals? When is rehearsals? And then I would come
to you and I'd be like all right, you guys,
can we and you'd be like yeah, yeah, no, we're good,
We're good, and Ed be the same way, like as like, no,
that's fine, no, I got it, and I was like, no, no, no, guys,
I don't have it. I don't know what the hell
I'm doing. Um there's a quote that has been attributed
(09:51):
to you, which that you basically started doing music because
it's there were so many funny people in Chicago that
you wanted to do something that was different. And what
is that true? Not exactly? Um, I just you know,
it's my thing. And I had the song that I
(10:13):
did in college that transferred over to the stage. I
would be like, play, you know, piano the same I'm
singing to a girl on the phone, you know, singing
a nice and like talking to a singing to a
little bit. You know, it's romantic, and I hit up
with it. Can I had some booty right, and then
I was like, okay him, listen to see if she's laughing.
(10:34):
And watched it so she's laughing. Okay, we're good. But
so then I did that, like I don't know, some
open mic kind of thing. But it wasn't the open mic.
It was like, you know, actors in the room on
a Friday night, like you know, and then you just
did what you do. So they want to start doing comedy.
(10:54):
I went up and did this show, and uh, it
didn't go too well. Let's just think I'll heckless heaven.
It's in Chicago, and you get eight minutes to perform
the first three minutes, nobody gets the mess with you.
From the third minute on if people wanted to hecker you.
There are three people in the audience who have rubber chickens.
If you've got all three rubber chickens, you had to
(11:15):
get off stage. And then, uh, three people have score cards.
So I got two rubber chickens the first night and
before I get to there like I'm not getting a
third chicken, It's good night. Then the next week I
came back with my keyboard. That's all she wrote. You
did the song that ends with your buddy getting the phone. Um,
(11:36):
somebody's sucking my lady. Somebody's sucking my lady. Yeah, somebody's Yeah.
That's that's what you saw. That's what I saw at mbark.
That's what got me like. They got me in front
of Apple Town to get me in front of Greg Daniels. Yeah.
When I did my audition for the Office, Great Games
was like, doesn't get any funny into that. I was like, okay, now,
(11:59):
audition like, Oh, what like it seems like a big
vote of confidence, right, I'm thinking like, oh man, it's
a hard time for hiring, so you need a hiring
(12:19):
partner built for hard times. That's Indeed. If you're hiring,
you need Indeed because Indeed is the hiring partner where
you can attract, interview, and hire all in one place.
And Indeed is the only job site where you're guaranteed
to find quality applications that meet your must have requirements
or else you don't pay. Instead of spending hours on
(12:42):
multiple job sites hoping to find candidates with the right skills,
you need one hiring partner that can help you do
it all. Indeed partners with you on every step of
the hiring process, find great talent through time saving tools
like Indeed, instant match assessments and virtual interviews. With instant Match,
as soon as you sponsor a post, you get a
(13:04):
short list of quality candidates with resumes on Indeed that
match your job description and you can invite them to
apply right away. Plus, you only pay for quality applications
that meet your must have requirements. Join more than three
million businesses worldwide that use Indeed to hire great talent Fast.
(13:26):
Start hiring right now with a seventy five dollar sponsored
job credit to upgrade your job post at indeed dot
com Slash office Deep Dive offer valid through March thirty one.
Go to indeed dot com Slash office Deep Dive to
claim your seventy five dollar credit before marche. Indeed dot
Com Slash Office Deep Dive terms and conditions apply. Need
(13:49):
to hire you Need Indeed. From Cavalry Audio, the studio
that brought you The Devil Within and The Shadow Goes,
comes a new true crime podcast, The Pink Moon Murders.
The local sheriff believes there may be more than one killer.
It's been four days since those bodies were found and
(14:10):
there's no arrest as it this morning. They were afraid
it's face it out in that area, what if they
come back or whatever. It scared me to death, Like
it scared me, I was very very intimidating to live here.
Crazy to think you go to sleep one night, maybe
snuggling with your loved one, and never wake up, or
maybe you wake up in a struggle for your life,
which you lose. Joint host David Radiman as he explores
(14:31):
one fateful night when evil descended upon small town, Ohio,
killed eight members of an Ohio family in a pre
planned execution. The family was targeted, most of them targeted
while they were sleeping. The Pink Moon Murders is available
on February twenty second, and you can follow The Pink
Moon Murders on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts
or wherever you get your podcasts. The art world it
(14:54):
is essentially a money laundering business. The best bakes are
still hanging on people's walls. You know, they don't even
know or suspect that their faces. I'm Alec Baldwin and
this is a podcast about deception, greed and forgery in
the art world. You knew the painting was fake. Um,
(15:16):
listen to Art Fraud on the I Heart Radio app,
Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you
(15:42):
do Lucky? And then you're doing stand up? And then
how did you did you know about the office before
you came on? Saul the British pilot on an airplane, okay,
And I was dying right, and I was like, damn,
I wish I could find that, you know. And one
(16:02):
day I was like drumming past seven eleven and I
saw the picture David Brent. Now that's that's the dude
from this show, you know. And then I end up
getting the audition. No, I didn't know much about except
for that pilot. And when you got the audition was
did you think it was just for one episode or
were they saying like you may come around. No, it
(16:25):
was just I mean it was it was the first season,
so you didn't even know, you know, what was going on.
So I just came in, did the did the audition,
and they called me later after y'all get well on
the way, I was established an episode for Yeah, And
did you know Allison Jones before that? I don't know
(16:47):
if I worked with Alison. I'm not before that. No,
you know what let missing? I think I had gotten
forty yeo, I'm sorry, knocked up? How did I do that?
Everybody does that to me? Fort Your Virgin? Like, no,
it's knocked up, knocked up and I just messed it up.
I got auditioned for Fortio Virgin, but I didn't get that,
(17:08):
but I did get knocked up, So I'm not sure
exactly what you want happen right right right? But did
you know that it was had the possibility to to
recur at that point or zero idea of just doing
a job, right, What was different for you or was
there anything different for you in terms of the way
(17:29):
that the show was shot. Yeah, that was that was
way different. Like everything else was like a movie was
you know, the two cameras doing a thing, but nobody
was swinging cameras around. Right. I feel like Darryl, you know,
even from the beginning, had kind of a gem thing
with the camera, like it felt like you were on
(17:50):
the same page, Like you would do the looks to
the camera like did you just see that idiot. I
don't get a lot of camera looks untill later, but
people do say, yeah, see me as a voice of
reason and in all the insanity. Yeah, Ben Silverman says
that you're the smartest person who worked a Dunner Mifflin. Well, no,
(18:12):
not you, but Darryl right right, right right, I can
see that. Yeah, Daryl was just trying to you know,
be honest, make an honest buck, and I couldn't believe
a lot of things that I was going around him.
And you know, he knew he had to keep the
peace and knew he had to uh keep his job.
So I don't I don't think he has worked out
(18:35):
smart in these cats. He just was, you know, just
like would you believe these cats? You know, but it
felt like, you know, they showed a lot that the
warehouse maybe was run more efficiently than the regular office.
Like you were well, you were good. Yeah. Um. Darryl's
(18:55):
relationship with Michael in the show, it was a very
like he kept coming to you for advice, particularly on
black culture. It was a very very funny dynamic. What
was your experience working with Steve? He's the greatest. The
way he could turn it comedy button off and on
(19:19):
like a falsett. It was just genius to me. Whenever
I had a scene with him on it, and I
was like, titilation was holy, you know, very exciting. And
I learned from him, stole from him all of that. Yeah,
it's funny that you said you said that, because I
thought you were going to say something else, which I
(19:40):
think is also true. Is part of his genius is
how he turns so quick even within a scene, you
know what I mean, Like he is he is fighting
down one path and something may happen and he just
turns it like that and he's like, you know, ultimate
scene part of two. He listens and acts two. You
(20:02):
know what's going on? Like, we had a scene I
didn't even really notice until it aired. It was a negotiation.
It might be my favorite episode just because of the
work I did with Steve and being able to play
with him like that. It was a scene where he's like,
I'm not going to speak first, like decline to speak first.
(20:27):
So we did a couple of takes and it was fine. Uh,
And then he did his next take and he's making
these faces and if you look closely, you could see
Meet started crack a smile on that. But it was
just like, without even speaking, he could, you know, pull
us out of you. The laughter is like, oh, he's
(20:49):
about to get me. But also in that episode when
I was saying, uh, where he listens and you know,
like the perfect improvisation partner, You're listening and take it
to the next level. So we's talking about, you know,
getting a raise from Jane. I said, make it happen, Captain,
he said, I will, Sergeant God game amazing. Do you
(21:20):
think that your relationship with him evolved throughout the show. Yeah,
but I think everybody's everybody evolved in this show. Everybody
I went through character development. Um, you know, that's one
of the things that makes it what it is. People
got to know these people, right. But yeah, I think
(21:40):
every every situation evolved to something. I mean, you started
out and your episodes were mainly about like the office
versus the warehouse, whether directly in basketball or like a
weird class thing where you have like the white collar
and the blue collar. Talk to me about the transition
for you character wise or as an actor of you
(22:03):
finally coming up and being a regular part of like
the bullpen characterized. Um, it felt like like it did
in real life, like oh many and making you a
regular you know what I'm saying. So definitely a move
on up for Craig, INFI, Darryl, you know. And it
(22:24):
was like more responsibility. And Rain used to say I
had the sweetest schedule in Hollywood because I would come
in for like an episode here and then four weeks
later come in to the Christmas episode. But yeah, character wiz,
it was it was like, yeah, step up and okay,
let's starting to see you know, starting to feel me.
(22:45):
And for Craig myself, it was like, hey, this is
this is awesome, Like because I didn't understand like I
thought we were a year to year like every other show.
You know, you don't know, you don't know, But it
was something about the offered, like like I remember one
one year and they were like many was like, yeah,
we're gonna be dating, and it didn't happen for a year,
(23:07):
and I kind of forget about. In the next year
we were dating. I was like, Oh, that's that's interesting.
How don't know we're gonna be picked up? You know,
I guess you don't know what you do that kind
of I wasn't, you know, none of those conversations. So
one of the people that I've talked to is uh
(23:28):
TV critic, and she talked about The Office. One of
the things that was notable about it was that it
was She defined it as casually diverse. Do you feel
like the Office in terms of race or your experience?
Do you feel like it it did something right or
wrong in terms of that it presented us as people?
(23:49):
And now all right with me, I don't notice right
or wrong. I think casually diverse is a great way
to put it. But it just, you know, we would
regularly it would look like a real office. We weren't like,
you know, models walking around. It was so proper dialogue.
(24:09):
This was like, just Okay, these are people someone probably
have some mentally know problems that they need to take
care of, right there, unleashed on society and it's fine.
Do you think the show did anything in terms of
a positive message in terms of diversity or race? I
(24:32):
mean you were nominated for three and double A CP Awards,
correct lost a three though, Nick Cannon, Ice Cube and
somebody else. But um, I mean people from all walks
of life love the Office, So I I wish I
(24:53):
could speak to that specifically somebody you know, and somebody
would be like, you know what, I had a problem
back people, But it's just that show. You know, I
don't know, right, I just don't know that answer. You
know what's funny? This is kind of side note. Someone
pointed this out that in Christmas Party we were talking
about before season two, Michael tells Darryl that he can't
(25:15):
wear a Santa hat, and eight years later Megan Kelly
there was a controversy was started by Santa Claus White kids. Yeah,
like he was before anyone ever knew who Meg and
Kelly was. He was making a joke out of what
she would say in the future calling America. Yeah, um,
(25:37):
do you do that in your comedy race? Yeah? Stuff,
We're just about America. No, not really, No, I have
a date x my acting mostly for like lovers. It's
a great date night. I mean it's for everybody, but
it's a couples get. I don't know, a boost out
(25:58):
of it, a boot, like a sexual boost, something you give,
a sexual boost, something that gally happens. I'm definitely about
the you know, the relationship. But interesting, I wonder what
my vibe is. I don't think it's that Hello, Hello, Hi,
(26:26):
Oh my god. I want to come through the screen
and hug you. Hey, everybody. Jessica's are here, also known
as Vanessa Abrams on Gossip Girl. I am so excited
to share my new podcast with you guys. It's called
x O x O and it's a walk down memory
lane all about Gossip Girl. I'll chat with some of
the cast crew fans of the show, and I'm just
(26:47):
so pumped for you guys to go on this journey
with me. All Right, I made Westwick. I played Chuck Bass.
I just can't believe that I did that. With my
life Jay. We had like the most amazing time. Listen
to XO X on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts. On the latest season
(27:08):
of the Next Question with Katie correct podcast, Katie dives
into Well Katie Here, exclusive podcast only conversations between Katie
and the people who made her memoir Going There Possible.
We spent a lot of time together around a dining
room table here and in the city, and you know,
it was a very intense experience. All episodes of Next
(27:30):
Question with Katie Couric are available now. Listen on the
I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get
your podcasts. And we're live here outside the Perez family home,
just waiting for the and there they go, almost on time.
This morning, Mom is coming off the front door strong
with a double arm kid carry. Looks like Dad has
the bags. Daughter's bringing up the rear. Oh but the
(27:54):
diaper bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere. Oh
but Mom has just nailed the perfect car seat buckle
for the toddler. And now the eldest daughter, who looks
to be about nine or ten, has secured herself in
the booster seat. Dad SIPs the bad clothes and they're off,
but looks like Mom doesn't realize her coffee cup is
(28:15):
still on the roof of the car, and there it goes.
That's a shame that mug was a fan favorite. Don't
sweat the small stuff, just nailed the big stuff, like
making sure your kids are buckled correctly in the right
seat for their agent's eyes. Learn more n h t
s A dot gov slash the Right Seat visits n
h s A dot gov slash the Right Seat brought
(28:36):
to you by NITZA and the ad Council. Darryll eventually
interviews to be the new manager. Did you want that job? Why?
(28:57):
I just didn't, And they would talking about me being it,
and I was, And when time I went up to Paul,
I'm like, hey, man, just uh, you know, just put
that in your pocket game of dollar, like you're thinking
about the managed, But I was. No. I did not
want to be managing. I thought that was interesting that
my name got brought up and it was cool and
and you know, I thought about it, but that would
(29:19):
be like and all that, But no, it seemed like
it looked like a lot of work, way different than
rain talking about your schedule coming In one episode four yeah,
but the path to that, Oh, it was amazing. Uh,
(29:40):
it's gonna Cassy Bates and Will Ferrell, Will James James Spader.
I looked back at some of those episodes like, that's right,
that actually happened, Spade. It was incredible, man, God damn. Yeah.
How was it like working with you know once Eve laughed?
(30:00):
Working with those guys. I mean, these are legends coming
in and you just like hanging out. You no battle trailer,
what's up? Catherine Tate? Catherine Tate, who I don't know
anything about Melanan That's that's my homies still to this day,
she's the best Spader. How is working with Spader different
(30:21):
than Steve Well, I mean, you know Spader, he's how
do you describe the guy? He's his own world, he's
his own I don't know. It was cool. It was
real cool. He was, you know, chatty and you know,
say what's up and it's smoothed with it, but you
know he's got that weird, creepy funny and Steve was
(30:45):
just like a falsetto just whatever you needed. And then
Spade of Dight, they wrote to him beautifully. Yeah. He
It was just interesting how they just approached it in
a totally opposite way from like really wanting a crafted
acting performance to way more sort of improv fass Ale. Yeah,
(31:12):
you were talking before about the leading up to Darryl
becoming the manager and getting to work with all of
those people. I mean that was that was a huge
storyline for you. I mean, and then eventually you going
off and working with Jim. Do you think today Darryl
would still be working with Jim at the Athlete Athlete
Oh yeah, oh yeah, they be at all no dope
(31:36):
games and killing it hecky yeah. I mean, I'm sure
he would have found another way to rise on his point,
but uh, maybe he was in his own company. Who
knows Daryl was ambitious? Yeah. Uh again going back to
Ben's talking about Darryl being the smartest person in the office,
(31:57):
but he was overlooked a lot. I sort of like,
you know, like Kevin was overlooked um in the basketball episode,
like where I was like, oh, yeah, of course that
guy can't play, and then you know you exactly, Daryl,
You really are an athletes, really, I am. I mean
we got a soft ball killed, bro, you killed Oh
(32:21):
I forgot about that. The beasts stuff We're like, okay, okay,
don't make me run that fast. That's all. Hit it
far up so that they hit it far up so
I don't have to run so fast. Yeah, but Daryl,
but it felt like Darryl kept being overlooked, at least
by Michael. I mean he was in the warehouse, he
(32:44):
put in the you know, trying we looked at I
guess what was your negotiation? Was that your favorite episode? Probably? Yeah,
just the sheer amount of work Mike an idea and
they said people don't only only want I called him Mike.
That's right. I didn't even realize that. Yeah, you're the
(33:06):
only one who called him Mike. Um, what was it?
What was it like for you working with Krasinski? How
was he different than Steve? And he's a pain in
the ass. But other than that, it was that John
always struck me. I mean he just knew like he
feel like he was, you know, just just brilliant dude.
(33:28):
You know, uh, I love his directing and he's funny,
you know when he wanted to be, but he was
the more the leading man kind of dude. Yeah, but
you know, he was always cool man. It was great
in the finale. Um do you remember what happens in
(33:49):
the finale We all go back to Scratton like a
year later and we do that Q and a panel
on the show. Yeah, and l A and her parents
are there. My god, what card thinking about it? Yeah?
Joelqu sick? Was it sad? Sad to watch on? Uh
in that moment with Ellie and because I don't know
(34:10):
what was going on? Right? Yeah, that was pretty you know,
rinching well and Creed singing the song all the faces
he sings that and then Jenna takes the painting off
the wall and goes outside. Oh yeah, I do remember that.
Jens Alotta talked about that. Greg used to talk about
the show was like a giant parking lot that goes
(34:34):
on forever, Like as far as you can see, there's
just asphalt everywhere, and then just line parking space, parking space,
handicapped space, and that just goes on and on, he said.
But then when you start to look closer, you see
the little cracks in the parking lot, and every once
in a while there's just a little teeny flower that
(34:54):
comes up out of the ground. And examining that beauty
in a waste land was what the show was trying
to do. I think that's why it relates to people.
One of the many reasons. Of course, have you ever
seen Greg going to his own like what so we
were doing this shows what in the office it was
(35:18):
Mr Robins, Mr Robinson. Yeah, so we the pitch like
the big pitch was like later on the the day
and uh and Catskey was there. Tracy shout out Tracy
and she had to move. She's like, great, we gotta go.
And Greg went into this feverish, fierce like you saw
(35:40):
his brain work and he started writing and banging. It
was it was like watching Michaelangelo paint or something. It
was it was like, Oh, this is happening right now
in front of me, dude, is incredible. Salute Greg Nagels. Yeah.
(36:00):
When when he was doing it, going into his writing
mode and cast Key was trying to set Greg we go,
he almost like you know, like he was typing. It was.
It was it was amazing, bro. Wow, he was just
he like he had an idea and he had do
I swear it was like watching Harry Potter or something.
(36:22):
It was. It was magic. It was like a whirldwind
around him and he almost barked at her which she
trying to get it to go. Yeah, see the smartest
comedy person you know. Yes, I'm to say absolutely A
do love working with Greg. I mean he couldn't be
(36:42):
a nicer guy, you know, and then smartest dude in
every room. Yeah, what are you? What are you most
thankful for? For the Office? Um, you know, when you
meet people, it's it's this genuine like like it feels
(37:03):
like you you have friends everywhere, and that's, uh, that's
a big part of my life because you know, these
friends come out, they support my shows and what have you.
And it's a lot of like the deeper goals. You know,
people had these stories of you know, my my uh
(37:24):
mother had cancer and you know we watched The Office
and you know, we got through this and it will
be these incredible heart wrenching stories about our family. We
don't talk, but we bond over the Office. You know.
Thank you asking me, You're like, why why the hell
is the show still relevant? And I think that's that's
(37:46):
a big part of it. People really connect through the
show with family members or whoever. Right, why do you
think it resonates? I mean, here was my impression anyway
that people are like, oh, the office. Yeah, people can
relate because sixty million people work in offices around the country.
(38:08):
So of course, now like it's young people who are
really into it. Soldiers for sure, man um yeah, and
you young people like starting and people are like, yeah,
I'm on my knight, nice time around watching it or
we watched it, you know, three times or four times.
You know, it's a phenomenon. I don't know how to
(38:30):
put my finger on it. I think that awkwardness. You know,
it's got everything that humor, awkward, it's got heart, you
fall in love with people. You know, it's a beautiful.
So yeah, alright, guys, do we need anything else from
Mr Robinson here? No predictors, murn good, Thanks buddy, You're welcome,
(38:58):
sir dude, it's been oh crazy, I've seen everyone, uh John,
Johannah Rain. I'm sure this is the most boring interview.
I'm suck at these things. Just good ladies and gentlemen,
(39:32):
the man himself, Craig Robinson. Craig, it's so good to
see you, and I think we can all agree that
you're anything but boring. Thank you for taking the time
to stop by, and thank you, my favorite listeners for
tuning in you're in luck because today we've got a
double whammy of a release, So make sure you go
(39:54):
check out round two of my conversation with director Ken
kopp Us right now. I will see you over there
the Office. Deep Dive is hosted and executive produced by
me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer, Lang Lee. Our
(40:18):
senior producer is Tessa Kramer. Our producers for this episode
are Liz Hayes and Diego Tapia. My main man in
the booth is Alec Moore. Our theme song Bubble and
Squeak performed by my great friend Creed Bratton, and the
episode was mixed by seth Olandsky. Big Brother, North Koreae
(40:58):
Forgotten Prince is a new true crime podcast that dives
deep into the life and mysterious assassination of the man
once destined to be North Korea's next dictator. Join me
Eaten Lee as we investigate a twisting tale of espionage, palas, gossip,
and political backstabbing, and dive into the motives and suspects
behind the most bizarre assassination plot of the century. Listen
(41:19):
to Big Brother on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast,
or wherever you get your podcasts coming February. Hello, this
is Christina Hutchinson and Karin Fisher. We're thrilled to announce
that our show, Guys, We the Anti plot Schaming Podcast,
is returning to wide release. That's right, every Friday, we
talked to one of our favorite comedians or an expert
(41:40):
in the field of sexuality, love and relationships to hear
what all the fos are about. Subscribe now and listen
to the Luminary original podcast. Guys. We've starting January one
on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever
you get your podcasts. Roses are read, She shot six
times and violets are blue. It's almost like her dream
(42:04):
man came into her life. Are you looking for love?
I do anything for you? And a little murder too.
She would kill her own daughters to get away with it.
He has a weapon, dropped a gun in honor of
Valentine's Day. Listen to Crazy and Love the entire month
of February on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts. What can I say?
(42:27):
Love made Me crazy?
Popular Podcasts
1. The Podium
The Podium: An NBC Olympic and Paralympic podcast. Join us for insider coverage during the intense competition at the 2024 Paris Olympic and Paralympic Games. In the run-up to the Opening Ceremony, we’ll bring you deep into the stories and events that have you know and those you'll be hard-pressed to forget.
2. In The Village
In The Village will take you into the most exclusive areas of the 2024 Paris Olympic Games to explore the daily life of athletes, complete with all the funny, mundane and unexpected things you learn off the field of play. Join Elizabeth Beisel as she sits down with Olympians each day in Paris.
3. iHeartOlympics: The Latest
Listen to the latest news from the 2024 Olympics.