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January 4, 2022 56 mins
What better way to kick off the new year than with another call-in episode of The Office Deep Dive? Brian hears from fans about everything from the time an elderly woman misunderstood a “that’s what she said” joke to speculation about who we’d all actually want to work with in an office - before paying tribute to the Jims and Pams in all of your lives.

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your podcasts. Hello. Hello, everyone, and it's a new year,

(01:02):
a new dawn of a new age that sounds like
the terminator. Uh. We have a new episode of the
Office Deep Dive. I am, as always your host, Brian Baumgartner.
New year, same guy. I'm excited for you to join
me today. I cannot wait to kick off with my

(01:23):
favorite kind of episode. That's right today, I have got
another our final call in episode where I get to
hear directly from you. We're gonna get down and dirty,
all right, and we're gonna answer a whole lot of
the questions that you've been dying to know, and then
we're gonna talk about love. Mhmm. You didn't see that

(01:45):
one coming, did you. So Happy New Year, everybody, and
let's start it on the right foot with another beautiful
episode starring the incredible, the inspiring, the unbelievably touching messages
that we have received from all of you. Bubble and Squeak,

(02:09):
I love it, Bubble and Squeaker, Bubble and Squeaker cooking
and everymon left over from the Natty for Brian this Ethan,

(02:32):
were big fan of Office all family watch whole series
fifteen times you funniest character on show. Okay, this is
a lot harder than it looks. You get the point.
I'm Ethan and I'm ten years old. My mom and
I really liked The Office, deep Dive and my entire
family and I love The Office. It's my favorite show.

(02:54):
The Office is like Elf. You can watch it over
and over again and still laugh every time. This is
my first time talking to a celebrity, so I am
really happy right now. I have three older brothers who
always make jokes from the Office. At first, I never
got any of them. They would say things like I
wanted to eat a pig in a blanket in a blanket,

(03:17):
or nothing beat the Cookie season next Truth. The only
thing I knew about the things they said were they
were from the Office. My favorite storyline from the Office
is Jim and Dwight's rivalry. Someone always gets in Office
the Christmas or birthday gift. When one of my brothers
turned sixteen, my mom got him a custom dundee that

(03:38):
said it is your Birthday. She also attempted to put
his money while it was in a ziploc bag into
some yellow jello, but when she flipped it upside down,
the edge of the bag cut right through the jello.
As much as she loves The Office, my mom gets
really mad when we say that's what she said. Not
a day goes by that someone in my house doesn't

(03:59):
quote The Office. Thanks for listening, whoever is, have a
great day, Ethan. Thank you so much for calling in
ten years of age. I don't know if you should
see every single episode in its entirety, but good on you.
Thanks to you and your mom for listening to the
Office deep dive. That is huge. Hm. That's what she said, Sorry, Mom,

(04:24):
I had to do it. Hello Brian and the Office
Deep Dive. My name is Sam Bagwana and I'm eighteen
years old um here in Australia and I just wanted
to send a quick message to say thanks for making
such an awesome podcast. It's really been great to listen
to throughout my final year of high school and the

(04:45):
HSC exams. So I guess I just had one question
for you. What is your favorite episode of the Office, Brian,
And I know that's going to be a hard one.
That's what she said, Sam, Thank you for calling all
the way from down Under. That was awful. What is

(05:07):
my favorite episode? Listen, Sam, I'm gonna be honest, it
changes a little bit. I've recently found out Variety just
came out with a list of the fifty best episodes.
Their number one was The Dinner Party, which is fantastic.
I mean, there's no doubt Lee and Gene and the
work that they did. They're making a modern day Who's

(05:30):
Afraid of Virginia Wolf. It's incredible. Personally, I believe their
number two is currently my number one, which is Stress
Relief otherwise known as the episode with Dwight's fake fire drill.
Part of it for me is and I've said this
quite a bit, you know, for me, now what was

(05:52):
going on outside of the show is also significant to
me as I go back and I rewatch. So we're
about to move here into American football playoffs. And Uh,
the episode Stress Relief aired immediately following the Super Bowl,
and so for me that was a huge as a

(06:13):
big football fan, sports fan, to be on a show
that aired immediately following the super Bowl, it was very special.
And that happened to be the first Super Bowl I
ever attended in person as well. Uh, the Pittsburgh Steelers
defeated the Arizona Cardinals in Tampa. It rained. It's a

(06:34):
long story, but anyway to answer quickly your question, Stress Relief.
For me, it's got comedy, it's got complicated camera movements
and choreography, a lot of rehearsal. I remember shooting the
episode well and and that's that's currently my favorite. But
check out the list on Variety or elsewhere and see

(06:57):
how how your list compares to their's. Hi, Brian and team.
This is Megan from Amersh, Virginia. Thank you so much
for this podcast. I have loved listening to the cast
and the crew and hearing their take and there behind
the scenes stories that we wouldn't have heard otherwise. My
question is, what do you think about the fan theory

(07:18):
that Dwight should have ended up with Isabel instead of Angela.
Thanks have a great day, Megan. Thanks so much for
your question. I was not aware that this was a movement.
Maybe it's happening on the in the dark threads of Reddit.
I'm not sure. I haven't heard this one before. Look,
I think that there's a lot of reasons that Dwight

(07:41):
could have or should have ended up with Isabel. But
you know what, sometimes with love, it's in a ineplicable,
it's in a splitzable, in explainable. There I changed it.
Um had Dwight and Angela they were a match made

(08:03):
in well, I'm not sure exactly where they were made,
but I think in the end, at least on our show,
they were meant to be. And I think ultimately, as
Greg Daniels and some of the other writers and producers
have talked about, they were sort of the anti Jim
and Pam. Jim and Pam were the couple that everybody
got that everybody responded to, and I think Dwight and

(08:26):
Angela was harder to explain, but I think in the
end their love was just as pure or just as creepy.
Hi Brian, my name is Jake Ryan. I'm from Johnston, Iowa,
and I'm currently a senior at the University of Iowa. UM. So,
to start out, I my funny story comes from back

(08:50):
when my dad and I we used to watch The
Office when I was little, and we used to stay
up late, uh or for me it was late, but
every Thursday night watching the premier of the New Office US,
and I remember we introduced my mom to the Office
in the first episode coincidentally had my to this day,
my favorite line from The Office, which came from Kevin

(09:10):
and her reaction to that line. So I remember the
episode was the one in which Darryl and Toby were
competing to sell Kevin Girl Scout cookies, and I remember
the funniest line was when Kevin told them he likes
to be wined and dined and blank blank blank um.

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And I remember just seeing the look of horror on
my mom's face when she heard that, and my dad
and I obviously hysterically laughing at that age. I didn't
know what it meant, but I saw my dad laughing
and I went along with it. So that's that's one
of my favorite memories, UM, and one of the funniest
memories from the show. UM. And then my question, I

(09:51):
wanted to ask you, I mean, other than what your
golf handicap is, but I wanted to ask you. You know,
I know that The Office Is has always been a
pretty well scripted show and there's not a ton of
room for improvisation, but were there any times in which
you improvised in the show that you can remember? And

(10:11):
if so, what was your what was your favorite improvisation line?
Thank you. I I love the show and I'm super
excited for to come back in so keep doing great things. Brian. Thanks,
Thanks Jake. First of all, I think the words you're
looking for our sixty nine and yeah, I guess, I guess.

(10:32):
Go look it up, Jake, go hawk Eyes. I was
there a couple of years ago into the talk. Had
a great time there in Iowa. Thanks for your call. Um.
I can't imagine there as a high school ish kid
watching that episode with my mom, and I can I
can imagine her face and how you and maybe your

(10:55):
dad felt in that moment. I love it. By the way,
six point eight is the handicap. Will move on from
that and asking about my favorite improv, I don't know
if this is my favorite or not, Jake, but at
the moment I had the idea of doing a running
improv in the episode where they're evaluating employees by putting

(11:19):
beans and Kevin saying what does a being mean? And
that was scripted what does a being mean? But the
fact that he becomes obsessed with the idea of not
knowing what a bean means but he probably knows and
so yes, Towards the end of that scene, you hear
him yelling in the background, and I remember laughing standing

(11:39):
away in the off camera, just yelling what does a
being mean? And the idea that Kevin is just going
around to everybody asking what a bean means? I don't know.
That makes me laugh at least right now. Hi, Brian,
big fan of the podcast, big fan of the office.
I'm not sure if I'm the biggest fan out there.
I'm sure there's someone who's much crazier than I am,

(12:01):
But I've been a scranted five times now. I'm not
sure if my wife will let me go back? Um?
Been to Office Fest that was happened last fall. That
was kind of cool. I've hosted office trivia at a bar.
I had an office theme party where I bought everybody

(12:22):
dundees and we played office trivia. UM. My question is
how long of a break did you guys have between
shooting seasons? You know the I know it took five
days to shoot an episode, but how long of a
break did you have, like I said, in between shooting seasons?
And another question is who do you think was the

(12:45):
funniest on set? I've had the privilege of meeting some
of you. I've actually met you at a comic con
in Pittsburgh, and everyone seems to say Rain Rain was
the funniest. So just want your opinion on that. And
thanks Brandon, thanks for your call. You've been to Scranton
five times. You're not sure your wife will let you

(13:07):
go back. What happened in Scranton? Brandon? That gives your
wife pause for sending you back. Um, it was nice
to meet you there in Pittsburgh. Maybe we will meet
someday back in Scranton. So a question about the schedule.
It varied a little bit. What I typically tell people

(13:27):
is it was like a school year but kind of
extended into the summer a little bit. Right, So, the Office,
when it was airing for probably the last seven to
eight years, it would have its season finale in roughly
late May, which means we stopped filming in sometime late

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April early May. We were done for the year, and
then we would have a summer break basically right, so
it would give the writers specifically time to recharge. They
would come back much earlier and began working on stories
for the coming year. And we usually started late July

(14:09):
early August to begin for the fall, and that that
would give us time to get episodes in the can
as they call it, before the traditional television season started,
which was September. So basically September through May is when
the network television season lasts, so we had to we

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you need Indeed. Hello, Brian. My name is Brianna and
I am calling from Madison, Wisconsin. I first want to
say thank you so much for creating this podcast. I

(16:47):
love listening to it each and every week just as
much as I love watching The Office. The Office is
my all time favorite show. I watch it all the time,
and I'm pretty sure all my friends think I'm nuts um,
but The Office is such a comforting thing to me
have it in the background on all the time. And
what I love about is even when I rewatch it

(17:09):
over and over again the same episodes, I am able
to find little gems hidden in the background of scenes
that I didn't notice before. So, for example, there is
a scene where Michael is in the kitchen and he's
drinking a diet soda, but if you pay attention, he
is pouring sugar into his diet soda as he's talking

(17:32):
in the kitchen. Or in St. Patrick's day, there is
the water cooler in the background behind Stanley, and if
you pay attention the water cooler, the water in there
is dyed green. For St. Patrick's Day or in the
garage sale. The yard sale, they kind of pan around
the warehouse there and you can see that Michael is

(17:56):
trying to sell his broken plasma screen TV that Jan
hit with the Dundee and the dinner party episode, and
so that just got me thinking that the writers put
so much effort into not only the scenes itself and
what's in the forefront of the scenes, but also what's
happening in the background, and adding these little gems that
you may find as you watched the episode over and

(18:18):
over again. You might not catch the first time, but
when you catch those things, it puts a smile on
your face and makes you laugh. And so I guess
I just wanted your take on why the writers put
so much effort into the background of scenes and how
that added to the show. So thanks again, I appreciate
what you do and talk to you soon. Thank you

(18:38):
so much for your call. Brianna. By the way, that
easter egg of the broken plasma screen in the garage
show episode, that's one of the best, So kudos to
you for finding that one. Look, our writers were amazing.
I can't truly can't say enough about them, but what

(18:58):
I would say is in addition to them, everyone on
the crew was working all the time thinking of those
type things. Right. So, I don't know whose idea the
plasma screen was, but it very well could have been
Phil Shay props, or a scenic designer or an actor.

(19:20):
It could have been Steve Carrell saying hey, you know what,
what do would be funny? And you know I talked
about this in the last Calling episode we did. There
is a warehouse of props that exists somewhere. Maybe at
this point they've given them up that any prop that
was used in any episode at any time, they saved
it in case they would need it again, and there's

(19:42):
a great example of a time they decided to use
it again. So, yes, our writers were incredible. Maybe that
was scripted, but it just as easily could have been
Steve Carrell or a prop person or or anyone really,
because Greg Daniels created such a collaborative environment that anyone

(20:04):
was able to pitch those kinds of jokes, and people
consistently were And I think that's one of the things
that makes the show so so deep and and have
such depth and texture and yeah, as you said, ultimately comedy. Hi, Christina,
mcton on here. I'm a huge Office fan, I will admit, Um,

(20:24):
I did not become a fan until covid started. I
decided to sit down and watch The Office before they
were going to take it off Netflix, and of course
that just led to me buying Peacock when it went
to Peacock and um, and then once I discovered your
podcast and The Office Ladies, you know, Jenna and Angelo's podcast,

(20:47):
I really just couldn't get enough. It became more and
more and more of an obsession. And what I like
about my obsession is, you know, not only do I
put The Office on like right now, just when I'm
eating or whatever where it's on in the background, but
I put the podcast on it all the time because
I absolutely love hearing every little detail about how the

(21:09):
show has been made, about every single person that has
helped you guys and has been a part of it,
every single person, regardless of their role. And you know
how quote unquote trivial it may seem to the whole production. Um,
you know, every little bit of it has been so
fascinating to me. And most of all, it's like it's
it's so inspiring to me. I have been completely uninspired

(21:34):
and not creative. I feel like my whole life, which
is not true, but I've just struggled to find that
spark in that creativity. I'm thirty eight years old. I'm
still trying to figure out what I'm doing. But I
have to say you have inspired me, Kevin, you specifically
all of you have inspired me to to create, to

(21:55):
become creative, to pursue writing again. I've heard about Brent
Forrester is writing course that he does online and I
just signed up for it lamps or you know, I
signed up to get notification about it, and I'm so
excited to do that. And so I just wanted to
thank you Kevin specifically for making the podcast, but also
each and everyone of you that has been on the
office and has helped create the office and as you know,

(22:19):
contributed the ways that you have the fans and the
ways you contributed contributed as well. I am just so
thankful to all of you. I feel like we're all
a big family. You guys just make me so happy.
Your new episodes coming out every week. Brian just make
me so happy. I feel like I'm friends with you now.
Just thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you so much.
I'm eternally grateful to you. Thank you well, Christina, thank

(22:43):
you for your message. I appreciate that so much. Look,
I think that's what the show is about. It's about
finding beauty in ordinary things, and I think that's what
does it. I think that's what gives you that inspiration.

(23:03):
Hopefully it helps you find that spark. Good luck to
you working with Brent Forrester. You're gonna need it working
with him, Brent Forrester joke, Sorry brent Um, but good
luck to you, all right, and thank you for your call.
Thanks for letting me know. I know that everybody who
worked on the show will appreciate hearing that, because, I mean, look,

(23:26):
the fact that our show is inspiring you now to
take a chance on doing something new at thirty eight
years old. That's awesome. Like, there's kind of nothing else
to say except that's awesome and good luck. I'm gonna
be rooting for you. Hey, Office, Deep Dive family. This

(23:47):
is Derek Crenshaw from Tulsa, Oklahoma. I started watching the
show whenever it was still live, and I worked a
blockbuster at the time, and I got caught up through
season one and I was able to get completely caught
up through through my gig at Blockbuster, and then continued

(24:11):
watching the show as it as it came on every week.
I did ask for DVD sets, so I have every
single one of those, and that came in helpful because
when I was in college, I couldn't afford a even
Netflix subscription, much less any kind of cable subscription or
anything like that. So I had all my Office DVD

(24:32):
so I continued. I continuously watched The Office whenever I
was in college. Um, you guys were with me through
some really tough times. You were with me through um,
almost a divorce, UM through the birth of my two
perfect children, and you sho, you guys do not know

(24:59):
how important you are. I just listening to you to
the Office ladies, hearing you guys break down sometimes it's uh,
it moves me into tears. Obviously it's doing it now. Um,
but you guys are more important to me than anybody

(25:21):
else who has no idea who I am. UM, But
I did wanna. I didn't want to pose what I
thought was an interesting question. So as I've watched seriously,
I've probably watched the whole series, UM twenty times. I
I don't know I I constantly before it got taken
off of Netflix, I had it on. It was just
a constant loop. M a funny story my oldest My

(25:44):
oldest son is five, and he loves the part where
Andy he calls him Michael's son, which I think is funny.
But he loves the part where he punches a hole
in the wall. Um but but anyway, So, as I've
watched these over and over and over and over and
over again, I have pondered who I would like and
dislike to work with the most if it were a

(26:05):
real life situation for me. Uh, it would probably be
Oscar would be the person I would like to work with.
He's uh, he's good at his job. He could be
a good mentor he doesn't get worked up too easy. Unpopularly,
my leasayer would probably be Jim. I think his pranks
would get on my nerves in real life, and he

(26:26):
doesn't seem like he would be a real good friend
unless it was on his terms, and so that would
be mine. I would ask you, Brian, if you who
would be yours? I know you've recently watched this, and
so who would be your favorite and least favorite people
to work with? Um? I hope that you do listen

(26:47):
to this and know that, UM, you know, I love
you guys, so so I apologize for the for all
of the tears, but um, but you guys are really
really important to me, so so thank you, and UM
know that I love you guys. Thanks by Thanks Derek,
I love you too, my friend. Thanks so much for
your message, and never ever apologize for feeling all right.

(27:13):
As for your question, I mean, I hear what you're
saying about the gym thing. Michael would be really difficult,
all right, let's be honest about that. Angela is a
hard no for sure. Now, maybe I'm biased. I thought
as you were talking you were going to say Kevin,
because listen, he makes things more fun. Am I wrong?

(27:37):
I'm definitely not wrong. Now, granted he might be he
might be frustrating to work with on occasion as well,
but I think he would make things most fun. Um gosh,
that's really tough. I'm gonna go, Pam. She wants to
be upward lee mobile is that the right phrase? Better herself?

(28:01):
She works her way up. I'm gonna go, Pam. I
mean Dwight. There's no doubt Dwight is excellent at his job.
So if I really wanted the company to succeed what
I put up with his eccentricities, probably not, but he
is really good at his job. Thanks Deerk, thanks for
the call. Hello, Brian, this is Kira. I'm a teacher

(28:23):
from Pennsylvania and I am a huge fan of the
Office and I have followed your podcast and Jenna and
Angela's podcast from the beginning, and your podcasts have given
me so much joy as an Office fan, just because
The Office has meant so much to me, because it's
such a real show and it connects to your life

(28:44):
no matter what character you're connecting to on what day,
and it just brings so much joy to me. To
know that you guys love the show just as much
as the fans who are watching the show. I think
it makes that ten times more special, and all of
the relationships that you guys have had throughout the show
makes that even better. I I just want you to

(29:06):
know that some of my classroom decorations involved The Office.
My motivational quote is by Dwight, so above my door
of a picture of Dwight, and it says, I am
ready to face any challenge that is foolish enough to
face me and one of my favorites that I have
in there is I found a decoration that has Stanley's

(29:26):
face on it and it says, did I Stutter? And
I like to use that when my students don't listen
to the directions I give them the first time. Everybody
knows I'm an Office fan, and I just have a
couple of questions that I would love to get your
opinion on. If you were gonna show someone a season
of the Office that really portrayed what the Office was about,

(29:47):
what season would you tell them to watch? Um, what
many arc of the show was your favorite, and what
episode was your favorite to shoot? Thank you so so much.
I appreciate all of you. Sometimes I feel like I
know you personally, but thank you so much. Thanks so
much Kira for your call the being a teacher and

(30:12):
using did I stutter? Is amazing, So well done there.
I'm not sure about using Dwight to motivate, but there
you go. As I just said, he's good at his job.
So what season would I choose to show someone. I

(30:34):
guess I'm gonna go with two, though I could say
three or five. You know, I think if you're gonna
watch the show. I think you start at the beginning.
That's truly what I think. I think part of what
stays with people when they watch the show is getting

(30:56):
into the characters, and I think that jumping in if
you haven't seen it at all before could be difficult.
In terms of my favorite mini arc for me, it
was Holly when Dwight tells Holly that Kevin is is
not all there. It's I don't know any other I'm

(31:19):
sure that they exist, but a joke that is set
up for four years that is then played off. And
that's kind of what I'm talking about about starting at
the beginning. That story isn't funny unless you have experienced
Kevin for four years before that. So that's what I'm
going with. And last, my favorite episode to shoot. I'm

(31:43):
gonna go a little different on this one. For me,
the episode that I think about the most and where
the memories are most in the forefront of my mind
is the finale. I think about shooting the finale a lot. Now.
Maybe it's because it was the last one, but I

(32:03):
don't think so. The number of things that happened there,
from Michael slash Steve coming back and the wedding and
the Q and A session and lots of locations and
Kevin nettis bar. That's the episode I think about the most.
So yeah, today, that's my favorite episode to shoot the finale.

(32:26):
Hello Brien and other office edits. My name is Alicia Maw.
I am an artist from Springfield, Missouri, and I would
love to share my awkward office moment with you all.
Back in two nineteen, it was late at night. I
was trying to come up with a design and for
some reason, the quote popped into my head. We all

(32:48):
have a little bit of Michael Scott in us, and
of course Steve Gril's voice immediately shoved itself into my
brain screaming that's what she said. So I drew up
the design. I ordered of the Tope bags, which are
my signature item that I sell, and I had them
at the next festival event. So we had a booth
set up and this elderly woman and I'm assuming her granddaughter,

(33:12):
walk in. She was immediately drawn to my Michael Scott
toats and she exclaims to me, Michael Scott is the
name of our pastor. He would love this bag. And
I thought, oh, this woman does not know, she must
not know who the real Michael Scott is. So it

(33:34):
went really silent. I was looking at the granddaughter. She
was staring at me the most awkward few moments, and
then she leans over and whispers the explanation of that's
what she said to the woman, and she was not happy.
She was not pleased at all. She looked at me

(33:55):
like I might be the devil. And they definitely walked
out without purchasing anything from me, which you know, in
the end was fine because it's this hilarious moment that
I will always remember. And of course, throughout that day
I made a lot of office sales because so many
fans are down here in Springfield, Missouri, and the love

(34:19):
and the bonding that we all had just from a
simple quote or a simple moment from the show. It
just brings strangers together and it's just like the funnest
time to meet these people that as an introvert I
never would have spoke to you in the first place.
So even though my life is a lot of awkward

(34:40):
moments like what happened, I love that we keep Michael
Scott in it because I mean, we all really have
a little bit of him in us, you know, we
we don't want to admit it, especially during the extremely
cringing times, but you know what, there have been times
where I've thought, oh, man, I may have done the

(35:00):
same thing that Michael just did. And it's definitely a
Michael Scott thing to admit that you wouldn't do those
awkward cringe eatings. So thank you for sharing in the
awkwardness that is my life. And I just wanted to
give a big shout out to everyone else who loves
this amazing show, and to Brian and everyone else in

(35:22):
production that helps give us all the insider notes and
all of the amazing, amazing info. We never would have
known what I thought you guys, Alicia, thank you. I
need a tote. I need. I need one of these
totes so that I can remember your story. It is interesting, though,

(35:42):
it is worth noting that very often I am surprised
by those that are fans of the office and that
do get the jokes. In this case, I guess, I
guess she didn't, But thank you. I need I need
a tote. I need a tote because who doesn't need

(36:04):
a little Michael Scott in them? Oh let's move on,
roses are red? She shot him six times? And violets
are blue. It's almost like her dream man came into

(36:25):
her life. Are you looking for love? I do anything
for you? And a little murder too. She would kill
her own daughters to get away with it. He has
a weapon chopped gun. In honor of Valentine's Day, Listen
to Crazy and Love the entire month of February on
the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you
get your podcasts. What can I say? Love made me crazy?

(37:01):
So listen. There was one thing that we weren't quite
expecting when we put the call out for call ins,
and it was how many of you had your own
Jim and Pam stories. Because we really thought out there
there would be more of the Dwight and Angela stories.

(37:21):
You might be afraid to admit it, but that's what
we thought. But seriously, one of our favorite episodes from
the oral history of the Office was episode five, when
we dove deep into relationships. What can I say? Everybody
loves Love? Am I right? So? Act three of today's
podcast will be dedicated to the beating heart of the

(37:45):
Office and the way it helped your hearts beat a
little bit harder too. So let's get into it. I
wanted to call in and just tell you how much
the show has meant to my husband and I and
how your podcast has meant to me over the last
two years especially. I met my husband about eight years ago,

(38:07):
and one of the first things that we talked about
on our first date was The Office and how great
it was. You know. I would throw a little one
liners in there, you know, I asked some questions, didn't
really get anywhere. But it wasn't until I asked her
what she planned on doing that night after we got
out of class, and she said, well, we'll watch The

(38:29):
Office with my roommates. When my husband and I first
started dating, it was The Office that originally brought us together.
We quote the show daily and by each other show
merchandise often. When we got married three years ago, we
walked out to a piano version of the theme song.
I kept up with the Office and really followed Jim
and Pam's relationship, being that they were friends, they flirted together,

(38:52):
they had this great relationship, and then they got into
a romantic relationship and they had their ups and downs,
their challenges, their disagreements, and I saw so many parallels
in my own relationship and knowing that my wife and
I are. We are different people, we like different things,
and sometimes we want to go in different directions, but

(39:12):
we came together because we of that love and appreciation.
I've always loved Jim and Path. It's been wonderful and
of course can't beat Kevin. Kevin's the best. Well I
can't argue with that. Thank you, Sarah, Katie, Tim, Kate,
and you Tyler, thank you so much. And you know what,
relationships they're not perfect and people are different, but I'm

(39:37):
glad to know that maybe you found a little love
through the office. Hi, Brian, I just wanted to share
this little story kind of show how culturally pervasive the
office was. It was over a decade ago, which seems crazy.

(39:58):
My then boyfriend End you know, we were serious and
so it just seemed natural that he would propose any
minute now. Um. And so one day we were outside
and he knelt down to um while on one knee
in front of me, and yeah, I thought that was it.

(40:19):
And then he reached to tie his shoe much like
Jim did with Pam on the Office. And we were
big fans and still are, and so I just want
to say that that worked on the show, but it
did not work in real life. I was very mad.

(40:42):
I was really mad, and it became a moment of
tension definitely in our relationship. Everything worked out. We are
now happily married for the past decade. He proposed six
months later, which is a whole other story, but he
had proposed and things turned out great. But that's how

(41:05):
you know. The Office is in the cultural milia at
the time, and just how much how influential it was
on all of our lives. Anyway, love your show, take care.
Thanks by Justine. That is amazing. I love what you say.
It worked on the show, it did not work in
real life. But listen, I'm guessing he then chose not

(41:28):
to propose in the rain at a gas station, so
you're probably happy about that as well. Thank you for
your call. I was hoping also that you would say
that he keeps doing that over and over in life,
and if he doesn't, he should, because listen, it's funny now.
It may not have been funny then, but it is

(41:49):
definitely it's definitely funny now. Hi, Brian. My name is
Katie Neufield and I'm from Orlando, Florida. Thanks to the Office,
I accidentally manifested the gym to my pain. I'm complete
with falling in love with a co worker and calling
off an engagement. So now I am married to my
coworker turned husband, Jeremy, and we have a one year
old son. I started watching The Office in high school

(42:11):
and it has gotten me through the good and the
bad times. I introduced my husband to the show, and
now I have someone who laughs whenever I work in
an office. Quote into the conversation, I would say I'm
the biggest fan of the Office, but I know that
there are thousands of people who might disagree. Thank you
for doing this podcast because if there's two things I love,
it's Deep Dives in the Office. I look forward to

(42:32):
all the new episode and thanks again by Katie. Congratulations
you and Jeremy. That is great that you manifested him
by your fandom through the show you created. Jeremy made
him work with you, and then you fell in love
with each other. That is amazing. You are Pam. Katie,

(42:54):
You are Pam. Congratulations. Best of luck to you and
your future, and thank you so much for calling in.
My name is Jenna Davis. My husband's name is Michael Davis.
I am an HR professional, that is my my passion,
as my calling. I absolutely love human resources. Um. My
husband is a firefighter paramedic for our city fire department,

(43:19):
so he's been at the front line, UM, during this
whole pandemic, doing the dirty work, meeting patients before they
even get to the hospital. UM. So if I can
do a shout out to my husband, UM, not biased,
I'm very proud of him. So when we first met,
my husband had already been a fan of the Office.

(43:41):
He already loved it, already seen it multiple times. And
when we met, you know, we'd go on dates and
the Office would never not come out of his mouth,
like he'd either say something about it or asked me
if I've seen it, and I'd always be like, no,
I have no idea what you're talking about. And he
was just like, Nope, we gotta watch it. So we
sat down and we started season one, episode one, and

(44:04):
as an HR professional, I cannot explain the cringe that
was going on inside of my body watching those earlier shows.
I could not believe somebody was just walking around in
office doing the things that Michael Scott was doing, saying

(44:25):
the things he was saying. Uh, and UM, there's a
specific point in the Office series in which everything clicked
to me. It was when Dwight had just pierced the
CPR dummy and they're chatting with David Wallace now and
David Wallace is saying something about how the dummy is

(44:47):
worth three thousand dollars, and Michael Scott somehow interprets that
as five thousand, three hundred dollars. I lost my mind,
laughing hysteric glee. It was like, in that moment, I
suddenly understood the show's intention, the show's humor. It all

(45:08):
made sense, and I was done. Since then, me and
my husband, of course together have seen it several times
through and through UM, and our love for the Office grew,
just as our love for each other was growing. You know,
our foundation of our relationship is built on the Office.
It was something we could have in common and we

(45:29):
laugh about and joke about UM. And because of that Um,
the bond we formed over the Office, we thought no
better place than to get married in good old Scratt
in Pennsylvania. So we got married and I ended up
getting pregnant with my son UM while he was in
my tummy every day going to work, coming home, from work.

(45:52):
I would have The Office on playing in my car.
And it wasn't long after my son was born that
we noticed him like looking at the TV when The
Office would come on, when the scene sign will come on,
he would stop what he was doing, stare at the
TV with a big smile on his face, and just dance.
And it was so awesome because we knew that he

(46:13):
was hearing it while he was in my tummy, and
his love for the Office or the joy that the
Office brings him, came before he even took his breath,
like in this world. And I think that is just
so amazing. UM. We love the podcast. We love Brian
and what he's able to pull out of people. Honestly

(46:33):
are Our son is a huge fan of trash Truck.
So when UM that when trash Truck is on, my
son instantly recognizes Brand's voice. We are so happy to
talk to you and share our story with the rest
of your listeners. UM, if you you know, select us, UM,

(46:57):
but if not, I hope either way this message brings
a smile into her face. And you you really I
mean every single word inside this message, UM, and I
just hope you all continue what you're doing. And bringing
smiles to people. Um every day. Wow, Jenna, thank you
for your message. You and Michael getting married in Scranton, Pennsylvania.

(47:23):
I haven't heard of that as a destination wedding place yet.
That's a first. Obviously. I know people get married in Scranton,
but I assume you're not from there, and that you
chose to go there and get married. That is incredible. UM.
I have to point out that in the beginning of
your message, you keep saying how much you love HR,

(47:46):
and I just needed to point that out that you
love HR, which of course makes people think of Toby.
But anyway, thank you so much and Michael, God bless you.
Thank you so much for the work that you're doing
keeping people safe and healthy every single day. So my
best to the two of you. And uh, obviously your

(48:08):
son has great taste if he's watching trash Truck. Hi, Brian.
My name is Abigail Peters. I am recording this from
Lovely Gray and Gloomy in Canto, Ohio. I've always wanted
to tell anyone of the Office, essentially my comment in
what the Office means to me. I'd always heard of
the Office growing up, but I never watched it. By

(48:30):
the time I was eighteen, I had gone through a
really bad high school breakup with a boyfriend who I
thought I loved, young love type of thing, and he
was quite mean, to say the least to me. So
I was going through a rough time mentally and emotionally.
And I come from a household of divorce. My parents
are divorced. So for me when it comes to love,

(48:52):
I was always very confused and watching The Office like
binged it satin on my couch in the corner day
in and day out and watched it and just watching
things like Jim and Pam, or even Michael and Holly,
even Aaron finding her parents that love, unconditional love. He

(49:13):
gave me hope. It gave me solace. It was, you know,
a young girl who thought her heart was broken, forever depressed.
What have you lost? Hopeless watching someone who looked hopeless.
I mean, think about Jim. He moved, he thought, I'm
never going to be with the woman I love, and

(49:34):
then look and they had their hard times and they
overcame adversity and their relationship. It just showed me patience
and kindness. And I just think for young generations trying
to figure out life. It gives up us almost a
peace at heart, peace of mind that there are still adults.

(49:54):
I mean, these are adults in an office still trying
to figure out life. Even Michael. I mean, by the
time I'm he finds hollow and everything. They always talk
about his agent stuff. He's mid forties when he finally
finds Holly and finds love. I mean it might happen
later in life, Phyllis, you know, later in life type
of a situation, but that even adults are still figuring
it out. Even when you look at an adult and

(50:16):
sit sit there and go, man, I had to become
an adult somehow, and then here are these adults still
trying to figure it out, and you kind of go, okay, okay,
I'm not alone. It's just the love and the unconditional nous,
the patience, the let's work things through, and let's all that.
I mean, coming from a home and experiences of people

(50:37):
screaming and yelling at each other and being so impatient
and calling each other names, to watch people genuinely sit
and go, you know what, let's talk about this. Let's
not just blow up on each other, Let's not just
tell each other off. It just it means. The show
means so much to me. You all means so much

(50:58):
to me, just because a girl who's going through a
tough time, a young, freshly eighteen adult thinking, my god, him,
I'm not going to be able to figure this out.
I always, I always find comfort in this show knowing
I still have time I can figure it out. Life
is short but also still quite long. I mean, I'm
twenty five now, but as an eighteen year old girl

(51:19):
in two dozen fourteen who had no idea where life
was going to take me, I mean, I'm getting choked
up thinking about it. Like I said, watching Jim and
Pam Michael find Holly, you know, I found someone. I'm
twenty five and I finally found someone, and I it
brings me peace and joy, and I just I love
you all. I thank you all so so much, and

(51:42):
I just this show will never mean more to me
than anything ever has. And I just I thank you
guys so much. So that's all. Thank you, Brian, Abigail,
thanks for your call. And I think I'm going to
end this episode quoting the great Greg Daniels, muttering, truth
and beauty, truth and beauty, truth and beauty, and that's

(52:06):
what we were trying to do on this show to
bring a degree of realism that is not typically seen
on television, certainly not network television. To show the truth,
which is sometimes ugly. Look, we've talked about dinner party today.
All you gotta do is look at dinner party. That

(52:27):
is a disfunctional relationship. Um, But ultimately finding the beauty
in people through that truth, finding that little flower growing
out of the concrete parking lot, That's what the show
was trying to do. And I think that is what

(52:47):
brings comfort to people. I think that's what brings hopefulness
to people. And it sounds like for you, Abigail, So
there is beauty in ordinary things. That was our point.
And to those of you who have received comfort from
watching the show, thank you to all of you for

(53:09):
sharing that with us and know that you are important
and beautiful. Wow. Thank you guys, Thank you all of

(53:31):
you truly from the bottom of my heart, and the
entire team here at the office Deep Dive, thank you
for reaching out. Going through all of your messages. It
has been a roller coaster to say the least, but
myself and the whole team here we have loved every
single minute of it. And here we are. Thank you

(53:53):
for joining me for another great year of podcasts. I
cannot wait for you to see it we have in
store for you next so as always, I will see
you next time. The Office Deep Dive is hosted and

(54:15):
executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer Langley.
Our producers are Liz Hayes and Diego Tapia. Our theme
song Bubble and Squeak performed by my great friend Creed Bratton,
and the episode was mixed by Seth o Landski. Hi, Brian,

(54:47):
this is Josh. I love the podcast. I've been watching
the show since two thousand and six, when I was
in college. It's helped me through some hard times in
my life. It's made me laugh and cry. I don't
think my life would be the same without The Office.
It's tough for me to put into words adequately. I
guess exactly what The Office means to me. I even

(55:10):
put it on when I go places now. I put
it on for my dog. And recently my TV died
and my dad joked that it was because my dog
was sick of watching the Office over and over again, um,
which she doesn't. She loves it. My dad passed away
when I was eight years old, and I didn't realize
how much he loved the show until I grew up

(55:31):
and after he was gone. But I feel like I
get my love for the show from him, and it
just feels so nice to be able to have this
connection with him that I didn't know I had um
until recently to summit Mason. Silly to instill such an
emotional connection to a television show, but the fans of
this show, as well as the cast and crew alike,

(55:51):
understand it. I know you've gotten such a positive reception
for your podcast, and I just wanted to echo that
and reiterate that you deserve every arms of that response.
As Dave Rogers said, thank you for this. Thank you,
the Black Effect presents. I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either,
but the history of black people ain't rooted in slavery.

(56:12):
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