Paulie & Tony tell legendary Boston Celtics tough man Antoine Walker why the NBA suspending Golden State Warriors player Draymond Green is a TOTAL DISGRACE to basketball's proud history of fighting and violence. Then Antoine gives a terrible take that gets him KICKED OFF THE SHOW.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On today's show, we'll tell you why the NBA is
disrespecting the game with this stupid Draymond suspension.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let's go roll Lee intro.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
All right, all right, y're yo yo your life from Philly.
It's the number one rated Paully and Tony Fools go show,
Yo yo, Yo's always Paulie Fools go here with Tony
Fools Goo and Tony Yo.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Huge show today.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
But oh yeah, before we get to this dumb decision
by the NBA, you know, people keep coming up to
us everywhere.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
We just got to mention it's come up to.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Us, and they keep wanting to tell us how great
the show is.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We know. I'm always like, yeah, we know, we know
it's great. We host it.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, you know, I'm gonna think we're doing to tell moron.
You know, go tell your friends if you have any exactly.
You know, some people just aren't too bright. That's the problem,
Tony anyway, stop doing that people anyway. The big news
this week the NBA continuing to ruin the sport of basketball.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Just yeah, they go ahead and suspend Draymond.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Green, unbliarly, just you know, stomping on Demnta Saponas so
what you know, Bay touched them. Yeah, this suspension, you know,
it violates the heart and soul of the game, and
you know, and just disrespects all the violent and murderous
players in the game's proud history.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Doesn't don't they're ruining a time on a tradition.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, well to talk about that, we're bringing on a
legendary NBA tough guy, in fact, legendary. Hey, we're going
to talk about what he did once in a fight,
aren't we don't?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Oh, yeah, we are. We're going to get into all
of it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, it was an NBA champ with the Heat, NCAA
champ with Kentucky, longtime Boston Celtic. Whatever. We won't hold
that against him anyway. His name is Antoine Walker, of course,
and you know we're going to see what he thinks
of this soft NBA and also get his NBA m
v P pick. You know, hopefully he's on the right side.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Hopefully he makes the right pick. We'll just have to
find out.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (02:36):
Now that we got that business out of the way,
it's time to get something we haven't mentioned yet. And
of course it's our top story story, all right, first
out the gate, our top story, which has nothing to
do with the NBA because nobody cares that much about that,
has everything to do with what just happened in Philly.
(02:57):
A terrible situation.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
People are calling this signing of Jalen Hurts to the
largest NFL contract historical in great paper. This is not
great at all. The man is being underpaid. I go
as far to say that the Eagles shrifted him.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah they did.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Let me just explain.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
You see, this is how a QB market works.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
People. What you gotta do if you want to set
a number for a player, you got to look at
a recent major QB signing, right, Dony.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Absolutely, you can't just look at him as a vacuum.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, you see this is obvious.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
People. What you gotta do is look at a recent
QB contract. So let's look at Deshaun Watson to the Browns.
Look at his guaranteed money. Deshaun Watson got two hundred
and thirty million dollars guaranteed. Jalen Hurts only got a
measly one hundred and seventy.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Nine million get doesn't make any sense, makes no.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Sense, especially when you put their stats from last season
side by side.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So let's go ahead and do that.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Bring up that graphic, all right, Total touchdowns Jalen Hurts
thirty five Deshaun Watson eight.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Passing yards Jalen Hurts three thousand, seven hundred and one
amazing Deshaun Watson a lowly eleven hundred and two. Lawsuits
Jalen Hurts zero, Deshaun Watson a whopping twenty two.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Criminal probes Jalen Hurts again, Goosegg zero Deshaun Watson nine.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Numbers never lie.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And finally, Tony, the most important stat of all, of course,
I'm talking about third down completion percentage.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Jalen Hurts sixty two point six. Wow, Deshaun Watson forty
eight point nine.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
There you go. The numbers tell the whole story there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And based on that, Jalen Hurts should have gotten a
billion guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, exactly, Tony. It's just embarrassing anyway. Shifting gears now
to the NBA. You know, the NBA playoffs now in
full swing. You know, I keep hearing these people out there.
They're all complaining saying that the playoff schedule is too
hard to follow. I don't think that at all.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Do you, Tony? No, what's hard to follow?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Exactly? Like you know, just take this Net sixers series.
You know, Game two was on Monday, Game three on Thursday,
three days later. Yeah, so, Tony, when would you expect
game four to be played.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Obviously two days later on Saturday?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Exactly? There you go.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And if the game on Thursday is at seven thirty pm,
then naturally you would assume that the next game.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Is I mean, this is an easy one one pm, obviously,
so easy and simple.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I don't understand the problem. Use your brain. Yeah, use your.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Brain, people, But you know that's the only way we're
going to defend the NBA. This NBA playoffs so far
has been an absolute joke, a total mess.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
You know, Travis, you.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Got all these players dropping like flies. Giannis goes down
with an injury, Job Rant with an injury. I thought
load management was both to be preventing this stuff, you know,
But plan to me, what's going on here, Don'ty?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
The players that two rested they good?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, these injuries, they're happening because the players are resting
too much. You know, their bodies just start wasting away.
So when it comes to playoff time. You know, they're
basically out of shape, don't you a great Tony?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Of course, this is just science. Their muscles are a trophying.
John Moran only played in like half the games this year,
so he's basically out of shape.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
This is why I have so much more respect for
the older generations.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
They never rested ever.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
My grandfather never took a day off in his life,
And the only time I saw that man sitting still
was when we laid him to rest at age forty
nine after he had a massive heart attack. But other
than that, the man was a bull.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
What a touching tribute to your grandfather, Tony. And well,
now to a story that luckily he isn't alive to
see because it would disturb him so much. You know,
the league suspending Draymond Green for Game three of the
Warriors King Series because he stepped on Demontas Sabonis.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You know, Baiel, this.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Is supposed to be playoff basketball. And you know in
the NBA was what's the most violent spot in all
of America? You know, these gen zs ruined it with
their load management.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
You know, you wonder why ratings are down.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You ask me the league should be promoting violence instead
of stopping it.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Isn't that right, Doning, Absolutely, there's too many rules now.
I'm as simple as times like in the eighties when
Charles Barkley was throwing fans out of glass plated windows,
or even two thousand and five when the Pacers led
the league in steals, fights and forced hospital visits. The
Sixers and Pacers were what basketball was all about. There
(07:45):
was such a force that even their own security guards
and local law enforcement were unable and even partially afraid,
to stop them.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Terrific historical perspective that donty. You know, people also forget
how violent the league was in the nineteen seventies. You know,
people forget the nineteen seventy nine NBA Finals, you know,
of course, between the Bullets and Sonics.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Oh yeah, as we all know, both teams started that
series with twelve players but finished with nine in what
many considered to be the bloodiest NBA Finals of all time.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You know, I researched this. Between nineteen seventy seven and
nineteen eighty four, the third biggest cause of death among
athletes was NBA playoff games, behind number one cocaine snorting
and number two eating straight cocaine.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
You know, forgive me if I get emotional here, but
the way the game is played now is such an
insult to the true NBA veterans, the tough guys who
sacrificed their bodies, their eyeballs, their tendons, their teeth, pieces
of their nostrils, and their elobes just to play the
game they love just.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So beautifully, said Dody. And just such a game when
you put it that way. But you knows we got
someone from that generation coming on ye now who can
speak for it I see him coming on the line,
so let's bring him on the Fusco Satellite Network.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Satellite all right.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
This man a first round pick out of Kentucky in
nineteen ninety six after leading the wildcatch do an NCAA title,
played for the Celtics the MAVs. The Hawks averaged above
twenty points a game. Yeah, more importantly played eighty two
games a season, like a real man's right, and also
as impressive as top twenty all time in Korea technical fouls,
(09:35):
So so respect for that.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
In two thousand and six he won a title with
Shaq and d Wade on that legendary Miami Heat team.
The right way instead of taking out you're taking the
easy way out like Lebron anyway, an twin Walker.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Welcome to the show. Welcome mister Walker man.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Thank you for having me, guys, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
You know, Antwine, you are what they called in force.
You know we don't have that anymore. You know, you
handled your business on the court. So let's talk about
this Raymond suspension. When you came into the league, you know,
they let a lot more slide, right, you know you
were allowed to bring a man within an inch of
his life.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, and you'd maybe get a flagrant one at most, right, yeah, barely.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
When you see Draymond getting suspended for merely stepping on someone,
isn't that insulting to you and your generation of players
who tried to make the game more violent.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Well, I think it's different now, and I think it
just kind of emphasizes that even more. I think the
league has to take into consideration that this is the playoffs.
Guys are gonna play hard, it's gonna be physical play,
and everything doesn't have to be a suspension of the game. Yeah,
what's wrong, what's wrong? We're giving them what's wrong, We're
(10:49):
giving them a fine and moving on from that. You
find a guy's stiff number here, he'll remember that, you know,
you finally got fifty k K or something like that.
Funny action like that. They will react a lot better.
But I just hate to do see that because you
want to see a good series. You hate to see
a guy miss a game, and it just kind of
(11:09):
takes away from the competition and saying, you know which
team is going to be better because this can this
that serious could really go seven games.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, all, don let me ask you something. When you
watch the game these days, do you feel like crying
at what you'll see because it's so it's so soft.
You long for the days when you know players would
routinely get hospitalized, you know, permanently.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And like the old school Knicks. Yeah, they see the
old school Celtics.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Yeah, I do think the game is soft. I wasn't
one of those guys. I mean I've had some mostercations
and things of that nature. Point it is soft. I
think they take away from I know they want a
more free foreign league, and you know, you think you
want to do more things for the fans and think
that's what the fans want to see. But I think
fans like to see tough competition. Obviously they have come.
They're not coming to a boxing match, but I think
(11:55):
they like to see guys go at it in a
tough competition, and the league didn't want that. The league
wanted to get more scoring. I remember when the games
were played in the ages and nineties, and you know
it's really physical. But now you know, you know the games.
They want the games in the one team fifteen range,
so that's why you see the play and they take
away the physical aspect of the game.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, Yeah, what was what was your favorite fight altercation
that you were involved and take us back down memory lane.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
I don't I don't have a favorite, but I did
have a playoff situation with with Indiana. Me and Jermaine
O'Neill got into a situation. We got into it a
little bit and I ended up getting the battling of it.
I ended up getting suspended and uh, missing the game,
and and.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
That that hurt us. So that that was that was
my b Tell.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Everyone, Tell everyone why you got suspended because that was
actually unfair.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Go ahead. We were very upset when that happened.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
Oh I got suspended because of Uh they say I
moved the referee out the way.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
No, yeah, they said you hit the ref Yeah that's nonsense.
But he's on the court. Shouldn't he be part of
the action. He was in the way?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Fans game, yeah, you would, you would think so.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
But they said I touched the ref and and that
was the reason why they suspended me.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
So it was unfortunately. I lost a lot of money too.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
That was a big, big, big, big check I lost
because that was a game and it was a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
But isn't it crew didn't I hear that when that happened,
you actually went through the league office and like body
slammed someone there him around a little bit.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
No, but uh, you know, you try to please your case.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
I think at the time when I came out, I'm
not mistaken Stuve Jackson.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
I know of you guys whom Stut Jackson.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Well, he was the he was the disciplinary and he
was the head guy. So you know I had I
tried to have a talk with him, but I think
he held grudge. When he was the head coach at
the University of Wisconsin. He recruited me and I ain't
go there, So I think.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
That's why he had it out for you see.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I probably had. He probably had it out for me.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
But that's actually a perfect segue for something we wanted
to bring up with you about your former head quote coach,
a great man, Rick Patino, and getting hired at Saint John's.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You know, you chose to go to Kentucky and play
for Rick Patino, who's just a way shining beacon in
college basketball. But you know people are saying, and I
can't figure this out. They're saying he's too old, or
you know, he committed too many casulations or he's been
the subject of too many FBI investigations. You know, had
too many sexual experiences, and it's all in restaurants. You know,
(14:26):
who can Don't you think all that experience, though, is
valuable for a coach?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
You guys are crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
No serious question, bro, No.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
No, no, no, but listen, I'm coach P's uh. Let's
just say he's a great coach. He's gonna do a
terrific job. He's gonna he's gonna he's gonna take that
program back to where it was back in the day
that I truly believe that he still has a passion
and love for the game that second, and none but
the situations. We all make mistakes in life, I think,
(14:58):
you know sometimes you know, people seem to forget that.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
You know, everybody's not perfect.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And coach, well, let me ask you something.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
When you were at Kentucky, who was the opponent you
prepared for most that Patino what you're prepared for. Was it,
you know, Kansas North Carolina?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Or was it the FBI?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Was he training you, you know, in case the FBI
came and asked your questions.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
No, it was all it was all training to go
against other schools. It was all. It was all good.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
No, but I just want to I would just say
this though, to speak on coach Patino's half. He's a
He's a great coach, a great motivator. Obviously I'm a
little biased because I played for him. He's been such
a great and positive influence in my life. But you know,
he's a tough key's a tough cookie. He's had some situations.
I was actually down there with him when he went
(15:45):
to his trials and tribulations as well, and just to
see how he handled at it because I was in
the process of trying to get back into the league.
So I went down there and trained with him and
state uh with coach for for a couple of months.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Okay, did you take a lot of detective tests?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Was that part of the training? You know, LI detective
speak to a lawyer, you.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Know, Cy, I was scared. I was scared to get involved.
I mean not scared.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I just we're scared of him too.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
No, I just didn't want to get involved, and and
and and and get into that. I was trying to
keep the negative aspect of things just out the way.
But I coach has been great, nothing but great to me.
I have none but great things to say about him.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
And obviously, uh.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
He's clearly wearing a wire someone he is, he's in
on it.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Let's let's let's we we we've been remiss here. We're
having you on the show. Who is?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
There's a lot of choices out there for n B
A m v P. Who is your pick?
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Wow, that's a tough one because I think it's it's
it's embarass here.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's a tough one. Yeah, it's a tough one.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Okay, explain why what you can't through math?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I like him be oh, okay, this is getting good.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
He yeah, we go all right, you walk your way
through it, Go ahead, walk in his way.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
I think Embiid has has earned the right to I
mean I think he's earned it. He's had consecutive really
really good seasons. He's really carried that team. And when
you really look at Philly, James Harden is not the
same James Harden, even though he was great, this was passing.
He's not the same James Harden.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
He's better. He's got that veteran experience.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Now.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I just think this is the U F m B
I think he deserves.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Think yeah, yeah, all right, but who's say you got
the Sixers? When you got that question correct?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Now I got do I got the Sixers?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
What?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Who is your title pick? The six is obviously based
on that.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
No, they're not my title pick. You guys know I'm
not picking Philly. I'm gonna pick Boston before I picked Philly.
I think I think it's wide open. I think this
year is gonna be a fun year.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
You know what should be wide open?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
The door car you're in and that because I was
in the car with you, I throw you off of it.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Get out it.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
You'ref to shine show, You're off to shine by falls
on you Get out of here.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I'm a Celtic, guys, I'm a Celtic.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Oh, get out of here?
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Gay?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Is he off the line? Jay? Hang up the field.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
This is why I don't like having these older guys
on the show, because they have no idea what's going
on in the game of basketball.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
You know, if he was in the studio, he would
need a walker just to get out of here when
we were done with him.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
No good one, that don't he very good? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
All right? Well let him ruin? What was that terrific show?
And of course you know we want to thank our
partners at door dash.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, look someone.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
If it isn't somebody, I wish would Dan Shatty here
producing what?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah? Whattions? Well, hurry up. What you said?
Speaker 7 (19:02):
NBA players are getting injured in the playoffs because they're
not playing enough regular season games and they're out of shape.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, bro, that makes no sense.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Every doctor says more rest is better for athletes. It
wouldn't lead to more injuries.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Oh yeah, well you know it's going to lead to
more injuries. You talking.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, and you know what your doctor is gonna say tonight,
he's dead. Yeah, yeah, done, that's it with done, no more.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Well, second, hurry up, go.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
You said John Moran only played in half the games
this season.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, lazy and embarrassing by unreal.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
He actually played in sixty one games this year. There's
a big difference between forty one and sixty one. It's
not half.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Oh yeah, well you know what is half? The fact
that I have to murder you.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, there's gonna be a big difference between when you're
breathing and when you're not.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
He's going to sleep, he's done. That's it.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
You also said you have to look at QB contracts
as a vacuum.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, bro, you do.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, you know it's a you bring them all together
like a vacuum does It's obviously.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
No, you mean in a vacuum, and you even use
the cliche wrong. But I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
bother to explain.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Oh yeah, well I'm not gonna bother to explain to
the detectives how you were murdered.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, and after we burn your body, your ashes are
gonna be in a vacuum.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well he's done, bully, he was terrific. And another great one.
This just came across my desk, Tonty, here you go.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Book next week on the show super Bowl Hero, Eagles
legend Nick Foles.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
There we want talk about the great everything in the meantime,
don't forget follow us on TikTok, subscribe on YouTube, watch
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Speaker 2 (21:07):
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Speaker 3 (21:08):
Bottle that anyway, great job as always, Tony, seem to.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You, Pollie, another flawless show. We'll see you people next week.
See h
On today's show, we'll tell you why the NBA is
disrespecting the game with this stupid Draymond suspension.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let's go roll Lee intro.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
All right, all right, y're yo yo your life from Philly.
It's the number one rated Paully and Tony Fools go show,
Yo yo, Yo's always Paulie Fools go here with Tony
Fools Goo and Tony Yo.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Huge show today.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
But oh yeah, before we get to this dumb decision
by the NBA, you know, people keep coming up to
us everywhere.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
We just got to mention it's come up to.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Us, and they keep wanting to tell us how great
the show is.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We know. I'm always like, yeah, we know, we know
it's great. We host it.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, you know, I'm gonna think we're doing to tell moron.
You know, go tell your friends if you have any exactly.
You know, some people just aren't too bright. That's the problem,
Tony anyway, stop doing that people anyway. The big news
this week the NBA continuing to ruin the sport of basketball.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Just yeah, they go ahead and suspend Draymond.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Green, unbliarly, just you know, stomping on Demnta Saponas so
what you know, Bay touched them. Yeah, this suspension, you know,
it violates the heart and soul of the game, and
you know, and just disrespects all the violent and murderous
players in the game's proud history.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Doesn't don't they're ruining a time on a tradition.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, well to talk about that, we're bringing on a
legendary NBA tough guy, in fact, legendary. Hey, we're going
to talk about what he did once in a fight,
aren't we don't?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Oh, yeah, we are. We're going to get into all
of it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, it was an NBA champ with the Heat, NCAA
champ with Kentucky, longtime Boston Celtic. Whatever. We won't hold
that against him anyway. His name is Antoine Walker, of course,
and you know we're going to see what he thinks
of this soft NBA and also get his NBA m
v P pick. You know, hopefully he's on the right side.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Hopefully he makes the right pick. We'll just have to
find out.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah.
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Now that we got that business out of the way,
it's time to get something we haven't mentioned yet. And
of course it's our top story story, all right, first
out the gate, our top story, which has nothing to
do with the NBA because nobody cares that much about that,
has everything to do with what just happened in Philly.
(02:57):
A terrible situation.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
People are calling this signing of Jalen Hurts to the
largest NFL contract historical in great paper. This is not
great at all. The man is being underpaid. I go
as far to say that the Eagles shrifted him.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah they did.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Let me just explain.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
You see, this is how a QB market works.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
People. What you gotta do if you want to set
a number for a player, you got to look at
a recent major QB signing, right, Dony.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Absolutely, you can't just look at him as a vacuum.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, you see this is obvious.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
People. What you gotta do is look at a recent
QB contract. So let's look at Deshaun Watson to the Browns.
Look at his guaranteed money. Deshaun Watson got two hundred
and thirty million dollars guaranteed. Jalen Hurts only got a
measly one hundred and seventy.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Nine million get doesn't make any sense, makes no.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Sense, especially when you put their stats from last season
side by side.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So let's go ahead and do that.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Bring up that graphic, all right, Total touchdowns Jalen Hurts
thirty five Deshaun Watson eight.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Passing yards Jalen Hurts three thousand, seven hundred and one
amazing Deshaun Watson a lowly eleven hundred and two. Lawsuits
Jalen Hurts zero, Deshaun Watson a whopping twenty two.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Criminal probes Jalen Hurts again, Goosegg zero Deshaun Watson nine.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Numbers never lie.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And finally, Tony, the most important stat of all, of course,
I'm talking about third down completion percentage.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Jalen Hurts sixty two point six. Wow, Deshaun Watson forty
eight point nine.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
There you go. The numbers tell the whole story there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And based on that, Jalen Hurts should have gotten a
billion guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, exactly, Tony. It's just embarrassing anyway. Shifting gears now
to the NBA. You know, the NBA playoffs now in
full swing. You know, I keep hearing these people out there.
They're all complaining saying that the playoff schedule is too
hard to follow. I don't think that at all.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Do you, Tony? No, what's hard to follow?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Exactly? Like you know, just take this Net sixers series.
You know, Game two was on Monday, Game three on Thursday,
three days later. Yeah, so, Tony, when would you expect
game four to be played.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Obviously two days later on Saturday?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Exactly? There you go.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And if the game on Thursday is at seven thirty pm,
then naturally you would assume that the next game.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Is I mean, this is an easy one one pm, obviously,
so easy and simple.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I don't understand the problem. Use your brain. Yeah, use your.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Brain, people, But you know that's the only way we're
going to defend the NBA. This NBA playoffs so far
has been an absolute joke, a total mess.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
You know, Travis, you.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Got all these players dropping like flies. Giannis goes down
with an injury, Job Rant with an injury. I thought
load management was both to be preventing this stuff, you know,
But plan to me, what's going on here, Don'ty?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
The players that two rested they good?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, these injuries, they're happening because the players are resting
too much. You know, their bodies just start wasting away.
So when it comes to playoff time. You know, they're
basically out of shape, don't you a great Tony?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Of course, this is just science. Their muscles are a trophying.
John Moran only played in like half the games this year,
so he's basically out of shape.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
This is why I have so much more respect for
the older generations.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
They never rested ever.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
My grandfather never took a day off in his life,
And the only time I saw that man sitting still
was when we laid him to rest at age forty
nine after he had a massive heart attack. But other
than that, the man was a bull.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
What a touching tribute to your grandfather, Tony. And well,
now to a story that luckily he isn't alive to
see because it would disturb him so much. You know,
the league suspending Draymond Green for Game three of the
Warriors King Series because he stepped on Demontas Sabonis.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You know, Baiel, this.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Is supposed to be playoff basketball. And you know in
the NBA was what's the most violent spot in all
of America? You know, these gen zs ruined it with
their load management.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
You know, you wonder why ratings are down.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You ask me the league should be promoting violence instead
of stopping it.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Isn't that right, Doning, Absolutely, there's too many rules now.
I'm as simple as times like in the eighties when
Charles Barkley was throwing fans out of glass plated windows,
or even two thousand and five when the Pacers led
the league in steals, fights and forced hospital visits. The
Sixers and Pacers were what basketball was all about. There
(07:45):
was such a force that even their own security guards
and local law enforcement were unable and even partially afraid,
to stop them.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Terrific historical perspective that donty. You know, people also forget
how violent the league was in the nineteen seventies. You know,
people forget the nineteen seventy nine NBA Finals, you know,
of course, between the Bullets and Sonics.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Oh yeah, as we all know, both teams started that
series with twelve players but finished with nine in what
many considered to be the bloodiest NBA Finals of all time.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You know, I researched this. Between nineteen seventy seven and
nineteen eighty four, the third biggest cause of death among
athletes was NBA playoff games, behind number one cocaine snorting
and number two eating straight cocaine.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
You know, forgive me if I get emotional here, but
the way the game is played now is such an
insult to the true NBA veterans, the tough guys who
sacrificed their bodies, their eyeballs, their tendons, their teeth, pieces
of their nostrils, and their elobes just to play the
game they love just.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So beautifully, said Dody. And just such a game when
you put it that way. But you knows we got
someone from that generation coming on ye now who can
speak for it I see him coming on the line,
so let's bring him on the Fusco Satellite Network.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Satellite all right.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
This man a first round pick out of Kentucky in
nineteen ninety six after leading the wildcatch do an NCAA title,
played for the Celtics the MAVs. The Hawks averaged above
twenty points a game. Yeah, more importantly played eighty two
games a season, like a real man's right, and also
as impressive as top twenty all time in Korea technical fouls,
(09:35):
So so respect for that.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
In two thousand and six he won a title with
Shaq and d Wade on that legendary Miami Heat team.
The right way instead of taking out you're taking the
easy way out like Lebron anyway, an twin Walker.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Welcome to the show. Welcome mister Walker man.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Thank you for having me, guys, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
You know, Antwine, you are what they called in force.
You know we don't have that anymore. You know, you
handled your business on the court. So let's talk about
this Raymond suspension. When you came into the league, you know,
they let a lot more slide, right, you know you
were allowed to bring a man within an inch of
his life.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, and you'd maybe get a flagrant one at most, right, yeah, barely.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
When you see Draymond getting suspended for merely stepping on someone,
isn't that insulting to you and your generation of players
who tried to make the game more violent.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Well, I think it's different now, and I think it
just kind of emphasizes that even more. I think the
league has to take into consideration that this is the playoffs.
Guys are gonna play hard, it's gonna be physical play,
and everything doesn't have to be a suspension of the game. Yeah,
what's wrong, what's wrong? We're giving them what's wrong, We're
(10:49):
giving them a fine and moving on from that. You
find a guy's stiff number here, he'll remember that, you know,
you finally got fifty k K or something like that.
Funny action like that. They will react a lot better.
But I just hate to do see that because you
want to see a good series. You hate to see
a guy miss a game, and it just kind of
(11:09):
takes away from the competition and saying, you know which
team is going to be better because this can this
that serious could really go seven games.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, all, don let me ask you something. When you
watch the game these days, do you feel like crying
at what you'll see because it's so it's so soft.
You long for the days when you know players would
routinely get hospitalized, you know, permanently.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And like the old school Knicks. Yeah, they see the
old school Celtics.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Yeah, I do think the game is soft. I wasn't
one of those guys. I mean I've had some mostercations
and things of that nature. Point it is soft. I
think they take away from I know they want a
more free foreign league, and you know, you think you
want to do more things for the fans and think
that's what the fans want to see. But I think
fans like to see tough competition. Obviously they have come.
They're not coming to a boxing match, but I think
(11:55):
they like to see guys go at it in a
tough competition, and the league didn't want that. The league
wanted to get more scoring. I remember when the games
were played in the ages and nineties, and you know
it's really physical. But now you know, you know the games.
They want the games in the one team fifteen range,
so that's why you see the play and they take
away the physical aspect of the game.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, Yeah, what was what was your favorite fight altercation
that you were involved and take us back down memory lane.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
I don't I don't have a favorite, but I did
have a playoff situation with with Indiana. Me and Jermaine
O'Neill got into a situation. We got into it a
little bit and I ended up getting the battling of it.
I ended up getting suspended and uh, missing the game,
and and.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
That that hurt us. So that that was that was
my b Tell.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Everyone, Tell everyone why you got suspended because that was
actually unfair.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Go ahead. We were very upset when that happened.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
Oh I got suspended because of Uh they say I
moved the referee out the way.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
No, yeah, they said you hit the ref Yeah that's nonsense.
But he's on the court. Shouldn't he be part of
the action. He was in the way?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Fans game, yeah, you would, you would think so.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
But they said I touched the ref and and that
was the reason why they suspended me.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
So it was unfortunately. I lost a lot of money too.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
That was a big, big, big, big check I lost
because that was a game and it was a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
But isn't it crew didn't I hear that when that happened,
you actually went through the league office and like body
slammed someone there him around a little bit.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
No, but uh, you know, you try to please your case.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
I think at the time when I came out, I'm
not mistaken Stuve Jackson.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
I know of you guys whom Stut Jackson.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Well, he was the he was the disciplinary and he
was the head guy. So you know I had I
tried to have a talk with him, but I think
he held grudge. When he was the head coach at
the University of Wisconsin. He recruited me and I ain't
go there, So I think.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
That's why he had it out for you see.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I probably had. He probably had it out for me.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
But that's actually a perfect segue for something we wanted
to bring up with you about your former head quote coach,
a great man, Rick Patino, and getting hired at Saint John's.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You know, you chose to go to Kentucky and play
for Rick Patino, who's just a way shining beacon in
college basketball. But you know people are saying, and I
can't figure this out. They're saying he's too old, or
you know, he committed too many casulations or he's been
the subject of too many FBI investigations. You know, had
too many sexual experiences, and it's all in restaurants. You know,
(14:26):
who can Don't you think all that experience, though, is
valuable for a coach?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
You guys are crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
No serious question, bro, No.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
No, no, no, but listen, I'm coach P's uh. Let's
just say he's a great coach. He's gonna do a
terrific job. He's gonna he's gonna he's gonna take that
program back to where it was back in the day
that I truly believe that he still has a passion
and love for the game that second, and none but
the situations. We all make mistakes in life, I think,
(14:58):
you know sometimes you know, people seem to forget that.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
You know, everybody's not perfect.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And coach, well, let me ask you something.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
When you were at Kentucky, who was the opponent you
prepared for most that Patino what you're prepared for. Was it,
you know, Kansas North Carolina?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Or was it the FBI?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Was he training you, you know, in case the FBI
came and asked your questions.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
No, it was all it was all training to go
against other schools. It was all. It was all good.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
No, but I just want to I would just say
this though, to speak on coach Patino's half. He's a
He's a great coach, a great motivator. Obviously I'm a
little biased because I played for him. He's been such
a great and positive influence in my life. But you know,
he's a tough key's a tough cookie. He's had some situations.
I was actually down there with him when he went
(15:45):
to his trials and tribulations as well, and just to
see how he handled at it because I was in
the process of trying to get back into the league.
So I went down there and trained with him and
state uh with coach for for a couple of months.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Okay, did you take a lot of detective tests?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Was that part of the training? You know, LI detective
speak to a lawyer, you.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Know, Cy, I was scared. I was scared to get involved.
I mean not scared.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I just we're scared of him too.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
No, I just didn't want to get involved, and and
and and and get into that. I was trying to
keep the negative aspect of things just out the way.
But I coach has been great, nothing but great to me.
I have none but great things to say about him.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
And obviously, uh.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
He's clearly wearing a wire someone he is, he's in
on it.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Let's let's let's we we we've been remiss here. We're
having you on the show. Who is?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
There's a lot of choices out there for n B
A m v P. Who is your pick?
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Wow, that's a tough one because I think it's it's
it's embarass here.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's a tough one. Yeah, it's a tough one.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Okay, explain why what you can't through math?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I like him be oh, okay, this is getting good.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
He yeah, we go all right, you walk your way
through it, Go ahead, walk in his way.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
I think Embiid has has earned the right to I
mean I think he's earned it. He's had consecutive really
really good seasons. He's really carried that team. And when
you really look at Philly, James Harden is not the
same James Harden, even though he was great, this was passing.
He's not the same James Harden.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
He's better. He's got that veteran experience.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Now.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I just think this is the U F m B
I think he deserves.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Think yeah, yeah, all right, but who's say you got
the Sixers? When you got that question correct?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Now I got do I got the Sixers?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
What?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Who is your title pick? The six is obviously based
on that.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
No, they're not my title pick. You guys know I'm
not picking Philly. I'm gonna pick Boston before I picked Philly.
I think I think it's wide open. I think this
year is gonna be a fun year.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
You know what should be wide open?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
The door car you're in and that because I was
in the car with you, I throw you off of it.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Get out it.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
You'ref to shine show, You're off to shine by falls
on you Get out of here.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I'm a Celtic, guys, I'm a Celtic.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Oh, get out of here?
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Gay?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Is he off the line? Jay? Hang up the field.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
This is why I don't like having these older guys
on the show, because they have no idea what's going
on in the game of basketball.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
You know, if he was in the studio, he would
need a walker just to get out of here when
we were done with him.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
No good one, that don't he very good? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
All right? Well let him ruin? What was that terrific show?
And of course you know we want to thank our
partners at door dash.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, look someone.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
If it isn't somebody, I wish would Dan Shatty here
producing what?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah? Whattions? Well, hurry up. What you said?
Speaker 7 (19:02):
NBA players are getting injured in the playoffs because they're
not playing enough regular season games and they're out of shape.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, bro, that makes no sense.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Every doctor says more rest is better for athletes. It
wouldn't lead to more injuries.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Oh yeah, well you know it's going to lead to
more injuries. You talking.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, and you know what your doctor is gonna say tonight,
he's dead. Yeah, yeah, done, that's it with done, no more.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Well, second, hurry up, go.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
You said John Moran only played in half the games
this season.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, lazy and embarrassing by unreal.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
He actually played in sixty one games this year. There's
a big difference between forty one and sixty one. It's
not half.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Oh yeah, well you know what is half? The fact
that I have to murder you.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, there's gonna be a big difference between when you're
breathing and when you're not.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
He's going to sleep, he's done. That's it.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
You also said you have to look at QB contracts
as a vacuum.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, bro, you do.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, you know it's a you bring them all together
like a vacuum does It's obviously.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
No, you mean in a vacuum, and you even use
the cliche wrong. But I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
bother to explain.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Oh yeah, well I'm not gonna bother to explain to
the detectives how you were murdered.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, and after we burn your body, your ashes are
gonna be in a vacuum.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well he's done, bully, he was terrific. And another great one.
This just came across my desk, Tonty, here you go.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Book next week on the show super Bowl Hero, Eagles
legend Nick Foles.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
There we want talk about the great everything in the meantime,
don't forget follow us on TikTok, subscribe on YouTube, watch
the show, listen to it back on.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Fox Sports Radios.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Bottle that anyway, great job as always, Tony, seem to.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You, Pollie, another flawless show. We'll see you people next week.
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