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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On today's show, we get NBA tough man Kenyan Martin
to tell us why the NBA sucks.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Now, let's go roll the intro, all right, yo'r live
from Philly.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
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Tony Yo absolutely huge show to huge show to tell
you why the experts have concerns about Bryce Young because
they're morons. And that will also show you a moment
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on ESPN that is so bizarre. We don't know what
to make of it. Yeah, it must be seen to
not be believed. Yeah, but you know the big story,
of course, these NBA playoffs. The Sixers swept the nets,
you know, continuing to coast their way towards title.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That was good.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
But otherwise these playoffs have been an absolute embarrass me,
haven't they.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Tony terrible, terrible.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And you know the refs they're just making these terrible calls.
They're rejecting players for just like breathing on others, yeah,
for not doing anything.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It's time.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
We think it's time someone just stepped in, you know,
and stopped the NBA from ruining the game of basketball.
So today we're turning to a man, an NBA legend
who truly knows how the game should be playing. He's
an all star, you know, one of the one of
the all time leaders in flagrant fouls, you know, legend.
His name is, of course, Kenyan Martin Foreman. Wait, yeah,
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former nugget. And you know we're gonna see if he's
gonna do something then, you know, man up and try
to fix the game once and for all.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah. And as they say, it's time to put his
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Speaker 2 (02:23):
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Speaker 1 (02:25):
Right, well we check that business out of the way.
At check, It's time to get into our top story.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
A story, of course, so many big stories surrounding the
NFL Draft, but the biggest the concerns about Alabama quarterback
Bryce Young, coming from experts who are morons, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
The yeah, and don't know anything about anything. They don't
know anything, tony, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
They keep focusing on these stats which they say are important,
like height and weight.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Who cares height and weight? Exactly? Who cares?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
You know?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
People, All you need to know is one thing about
Bryce Young. He's got the Nick Saban seal of approval.
That's all that mad Exactly when Nick Saban coaches a player,
especially a quarterback, you know he's good. I mean, all
you got to do is, let's look at the list
of recent QB's to come at Alabama. Jalen Hurts the
best to at Tago Viola, Fearless Mac Jones, up and
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coming AJ mccern currently dominating the XFL. Jake Koka, key
member of the Cardinals practice squad. Greg McElroy, great broadcaster, yeah. Well,
as you can see, the list goes on and on
there right exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
We could do this all day.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, but you know there's other stories out there besides
the NFL Draft and even biggest story out of the league.
Five NFL players from the Lions and Commanders suspended for
gambling on games. Now, we're not going to bother reading
the names yet because we want to spare these men
for the humiliation. Absolutely, and also we've never heard of them.
But you know, Tony, this just makes no sense, doesn't
(04:00):
It makes no sense at all?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I mean, what do we always want to hear an
athlete say that he's betting on himself. I think we
should applaud these players for betting on themselves. Personally, if
I found out a quarterback bet five million dollars on
himself in a game, then I'd say, wow, what confidence.
Good for him? Great point that, Doty.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And you know these poor players you got suspended, you know,
look at him. They've played for the Lions on the Commanders.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Horrible.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
We're punishing these of all the players for gambling. If
you exactly for the Lions and the Commanders, well you
have nothing to play.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
For, you know, you're not going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So you know, shouldn't these crappy teams, you know, be
allowed to bet? You know, maybexactly take the Commanders, you know,
you throw them about, you know, one hundred million dollars
before the season and tell them to bet it. You
know that that way they can stay interested through the season.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Right, absolutely, you know it would be more interesting for
the viewers to think about it. You could compare bets
before games, like let's say, if you found out Jared
Goff has bet five million dollars on his team, but
Taylor Heineke only bet one million dollars on his team.
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I'm taking the Lions. Terrific point that, Tony.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And you know we all know Roger Candell the league
office listens to the show. So yeah, you know, don't
be surprised people if these suspensions get lifted any day.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Now, absolutely great point. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Turning to less shocking NFL news, Tony, you know, earlier
this week the Jets and Packers, well they finally announced
that they've completed the trade for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Now, yeah, finally exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
This story, of course, is not interesting at all because
we all knew it was going.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
To happen be going on for a month, three months
ago exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
But you know what is interesting is how ESPN inside
Adam Schefter.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Broke the news quote unquote on ESPN.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Here watch this clip.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Oh lord, we have breaking news right now, breaking news.
Aaron Rodgers officially is being traded to the.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
New York Jets.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
And it just came down moments ago in a trade
involving six picks. Aaron Rodgers is going to the New
York Jets. It's official. It is happening. Finally, after all
this time, we've been waiting for this trade to happen,
and now it is. And here are the details of
the trade that just came down. The Jets are sending
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their first round pick their second year this year. Well
hold on, big sweamoo, hold on their second round pick
next year.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
It's a conditional pick they get back.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
They get back the Packers' first round pick this year
and a fifth round pick.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
But the trade is coming down. Uh, here's my question
for Adam Scheft.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You call yourself an NFL insider, Why the were you
so surprised by this? I mean, we've been talking about
the for the past three months, Tony.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Right exactly, and look at the panel here. They host
a show called NFL Live. They've been talking about this
for three months straight. Did you forget the other sixty
shows you spent talking about this?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, exactly, Tony. You know, maybe they're wrong or something.
You know, maybe this is the way we should be
delivering news on this show.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Maybe we should use their approach exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So you know, what we've decided is we're gonna do
a new segment on the show called breaking obvious News.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Breaking obvious News.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Okay, Tony, this news justin the Chiefs have signed QB
Blaine Gabbard, but he is not in consideration to be
the team starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
WHOA, what there you go? Wow? Crazy right, could not unbelievable.
I can't believe it. And here's another one, Tony.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Breaking obvious news.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
This one just hot off the press to fresh ESPN.
The Cincinnati Bengals have picked up Joe Burrow's fifth year option.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Whoa, no way. We weren't sure what they were gonna
do with Goro.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Which way they were gonna go maybe release, yeah, you know,
maybe jam.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Or something, but they've gone ahead and committed. Yeah, obvious news,
breaking news. That was great.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
All right.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Finally, one quick note on the NBA. Uh you know
Joel embiid we've all learned as a spring Dale cl
whatever that is.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
But you know, thirty, I don't.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I don't even know why Adam Silva isn't stepping in
to delay the playoffs with all these injuries going on.
You know what, nobody's injured. Kawhi was injured, Yohannis exactly.
The NBA is an entertainment product. If you don't have
the stars, well then you should postpone your product until
you got them, isn't that right?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Of course? You know we see this all the time
in Hollywood. If Tom Cruise gets injured making mission impossible six,
do they keep making the movie and just put Tofa
Grace in his part. No, they halt production. And that's
what the NBA clearly needs to do here. Move the
second round to mid July or so. That way all
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the stars are healthy. And by the way, don't get
me wrong, I would love to see a mission impossible
with Tofa Grace, no offense to him.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Couldn't agree with you more with Tony you know, would
love to thank you Tofa Grace in that role.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But let's see something else.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Right now, it's our guest coming on the line, so
let's go ahead and bring him on the Fusco Satellite network.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Fusco Satellite Network.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
All right, This man number one overall pick of course
in two thousand played for the Nuggets, the Knicks, the Nets,
where he went the two NBA finals. But of course,
his biggest accomplishment we all know is his reputation for
being one of the toughest and fiercest players in NBA history.
Listen to this one hundred and five Korea technical fouls.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And more importantly and impressively, one of just three NBA
players since nineteen ninety nine to rack up six or
more flagrant thousand in one season.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Just terrific there, So let's bring them on the show.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Kenyan Martin, the true legend.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Those are stats I did not know, so appreciate you
sharing it.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
That's all we do we do on this y, the
type of thing we do with If you know, Kenyan,
we don't need to tell you this. These NBA playoffs
they're a joke. You know, the refs throwing out players
left and right for barely doing anything. You know that
they're trying to make the game about, you know, shooting
and dribbling and rebounding.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
That's not what that's supposed about.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You know, it's about trimbling other players in the name
of competition, you know, intimidating them, threatening the permanently injured them,
you know, which we were so good at. You know,
don't you think that we've lost the soul of the game.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Yeah, I would agree we've lost the soul of the game.
Yeah I would. I would definitely agree with you in
that aspect. But but but permanently injured in someone, ah, finbly,
I wouldn't take it that far.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Well, you know, maybe a few nights in the hospital, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Maybe you gotta walk the line.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
You gotta walk the line.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Okay, you know there like knockout Karl Alone once, didn't
you see it, didn't you put the elbow to the head.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Yeah, But no knights in the hospital though, what I'm
saying he went home to his wife and kids.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well, that's disappointing that, but you tried, You tried. You
know what, exactly when you look at the way basketball
is right now, that it's so soft, does that make
you want to cry? Because they're kind of crapping on
the legacy of violence that you and so many of
your your friends and you helped the Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
It had to change because I think it would be
it would be out of control right now. It was necessary.
It was a necessary change, man, It was. It was
one of those things where if they did, and people
were gonna stop tuning in and it was effect in
their bottom line. So changes, changes must be made.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
In a moment where you thought, all right, maybe this
has gone a little too far, maybe I might have
just broken a few laws.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Was there a moment like that for you?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (12:13):
No, Mian was a conversation. Oh mine was a conversation
with the late great David Stern. I'm saying Mian was
a conversation, not a moment.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
What happened in that conversation, you know, did David Stern
like lock you in a room and punch you, like
say hey, you know I'm not for this, knock it out,
slap you across the face.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
What happened with words?
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Oh wow, he was tough, David Stern. What do you say, Oh, yeah, no.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
No, you need to cut it out, like his exact words.
Do you if you want to be a part of
this league, I suggest you cut it out.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
You know, I used to have respect for David Stern.
I'm losing respect for David Stern here, you know.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
So therefore I walked the line like I walked the
line without without you know what I'm saying. I didn't
After that point there was no more in game fights
or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
So I said, yeah, like.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
I understood, I got the message out and.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Care Okay, you know you seem I gotta say, you
seem kind of like.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Uh, what's the word kind of zen? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Very And I got to be honest, it's a it's
a it's a little annoying, like you know, you what
happened to the Kenyan Martin? You know who was you know,
throwing around thing? Carl Malone, you know making David.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, he's.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
He's down, deep, deep, deep down there. Man. I've had
I've had eight years to suppress that guy, you know
I have. I retired in twenty fifteen, so I've had
eight years to suppress that that guy. And not because
at home, I'm not hanging off the chandelier or I'm
not threatening the dog. And you know I'm cool, man,
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I'm not. But like I said, I already at the
situation you look at him. The only situation, well, let
me let me the kar Malone situation I initiated. But
it was a retaliation for some shit. Had nothing to
do with me.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Right, you were getting them back for the knock and
Isaiah Thomas.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
To the fen had nothing to do with Kenyan Martin whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
But everything Thomas, thank you for that, you know, for
Bloody and Karl alone, and send you a gift basket
of something.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Actually did recently publicly on on the same podcast that
I told this story on. So yeah, no, but no, Yeah,
I just wasn't the situations, man, I was. I was
wired different when I played, and to the effect of
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my respect went a lot longer and further than me
getting kicked out of the game or me fighting in
the situation. You know what I'm saying, I was all
I'm all about respect.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I think you're missing the whole point there. I think
Isaiah Thomas was trying to tell you something. He was saying,
thank you for not respecting other people. But how zen
are you? Like, let me ask you something. Let's give
you hypothetical. You know you now goes to McDonald's. They
forget to put his fries in the bag. Do you
like you okay? Or do you know you can get
through the drive through?
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Might climb through the window. Might climb through the window.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Because they now because.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
They from my son, and my son didn't get his fries.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Ye, but I'm up for family.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Yeah, but they did it with my food. So actually
I'm going to be polite, all right, they be with
my food. So now we're not gonna I don't want
the fry. I don't want the basket of fries just
fell on the floor and you scooped to the side.
We don't want those, so.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Good, good, point right, It did bring up your son.
Let's talk about your son quickly. I don't want to
sally the mood here, but obviously it's a it's a
tough subject for you and your family. You know, I'm
very sorry. We're all sorry about what's happened with your son.
Kenyan Martin Jr. You know, a couple of years ago,
very sadly, of all the teams got drafted to the Kings.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Terrible and heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Even more sadly, he gets traded to the Houston Rockets.
You know, the most pathetic organization and all of basketball
how are you helping your son through this tragic and
hopeless time for him?
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Hey, listen, man, it was a it was a blessing,
and it was a blessing in disguise getting drafted by
the Kings and day and going to Houston. No, man,
but just it's an unfortunate situation. But it's it's like
I said, it's a blessing for him to be living
out a dream and making a name for himself. Man.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And just a second, you want to say a bunch
of things always like that, you know, Ka Kenyan?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Problem with your situation.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Every situation ain't like that, man.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I know this is a sole subject, but you look
at your son's stats. Of course, I'm talking about his
number of flagrant fouls. He only he only has one
flagrant foul and a tire three year Korea Kenyan. Yeah,
that's your son. You know, as a father, do you
tell him how disappointed you are in him? He's shaming
the family?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Now, how disappointed are you?
Speaker 6 (17:30):
There's one right, It's only one right? Yeah, and that
was some bs. So listen, hey, he's failing meet tremendously. Man, Listen,
I can't I don't know where to be getting to
start man like you go. He's not holding up the
end of that I'm saying of the last name. So
I definitely need to have a talk with him.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Let's do that. Here's what.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Look at the camera, Kenyan Junior right now, say Kenyan,
I'm so disappointed in how we are. I want you
to step up and start bashing guys in the head
and play the game as it's meant to be played.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Make me permanent injuries?
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Yeah, see, I thought I thought we gotta pass the
permanent injury part of this company.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Oh ye, you want to be permanently injured?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, I guess what.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Come back to a little angry next time because you're comminently.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yes, you're permanently off the show business business show.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Get bring back the old Kenyan Martin and come back.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
He's welcome. You need a little less anger management of
this show. How dare you? How dare you? How dare you?
Don't you're a time machine? And come back when you're
twenty Yeah, who wants to do some bye? Sit? Is
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he off the line? Jay?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Hang up the phone, Donny, I'm not one hundred percent
sure that was actually Kenyan Martin did not seem.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I'm not sure either, I don't know what who that was. Well,
let's just mean on not like that Ruin was.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Otherwise, of course, we do want to thank our good
friends at Bellaton and wait wait, oh you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Definitely not a good worst j what correction? What? Hurry up?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
First, you said NFL players should be allowed to bet
on their own games.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, bro, yeah, it makes it interesting, bro.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yeah, No, it's terrible for the integrity of the sport,
Like you really want players throwing games just to win
a bet.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
No, if there's anything I want to see thrown, it's
you out of a window.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, I'm gonna place a bet that you don't make
it home alive tonight, and I'm gonna win that bet
if you'd done no more, no, no, no. Number two,
hurry up.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
You said it shouldn't matter that Bryce Young is only
five foot ten inches, not even a little No. No
QB five ten or under has gone in the first
round since two thousand and six, so there's clearly a
reason why it should be a concern.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Oh yeah, well, uh, you're gonna be gone in the
first round of bullets from my gun.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, two thousand and six is going to be the
number of holes they find in your body. Oh that's
it right with none? Why go hurry up?
Speaker 4 (20:37):
You know I didn't bring this up last week because
there was so much you said wrong. But Tony, look,
you said the word to describe when someone's body starts
breaking down is a trophying?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, bro, science, Bro, what's wrong with that?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
You're pronouncing it all wrong. It's a trophy, not a trophying.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Oh yeah, well you win the trophy for biggest loser.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Congrats and after tonight you're gonna be pronounced dead. Nick
ship to lean actually to go out on. This is
how you go out. Look at this just came across book.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
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Speaker 2 (21:54):
We'll see your FATA next week. See uh