Paulie & Tony kick 12-year NBA vet Cuttino Mobley off the show after he pushes back on their SMART Ja Morant take. But before that, he does give a good reason why Doc Rivers is a TERRIBLE coach and the Sixers SHOULD'VE NEVER HIRED HIM.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
All right, all right, yo yo yo, do your live
from Philly.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's the number one ringed Bolly in Tony Fosco show.
Yo yo yo.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Is Polly Foolsco here with Tony Fosco and Dony Yo.
You know the people out there, they've been waiting for
this show, you know, badgering us, where's the episode? When
you get a dark Sixers?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Exactly? People, you'll hear it NonStop, we know, yeah, exactly,
leave us alone. We'll get to you.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
You know, first of all, we hear you out there
saying that quote unquote the Sixes didn't show up in
Game seven people. If you want to say what not
showing up looks like go watch our last episode, right, Dony.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah exactly. Our guest is what they call a persona
non gracias. Yeah, more like a non guest.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Hopefully our guest actually shows today because I actually want
to speak to this guy, Tonty.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Now that Doc Rivers has gone from Philly finally Audio
fought in the Wind, Yeah yep, we want to get
some inside perspective today, So we're going to bring on
this guy. He was on a team the year after
Doc Rivers got fired. Our longtime NBA player Katino Mobley.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Who was on the two thousand and four. He was
lady to Magic.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
As you remember, right after Doc got fired, and most
of them straight up, how much better things got Orlando
after they got rid of Doc.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It was just what the doctor did in order.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
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Speaker 1 (02:15):
Let's stop the surprised by the sixers implosion.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well we're not not us. That's why right now we're
going to go over everything.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
We got one hundred percent bang on the head as usual,
it's one of our most popular segments where Paulie and
Tony were.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Right where Pauli and Tony were right well Downy.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Just a terrible ending for anotherwise terrific Sixers season. Absolutely, Now,
when you look at what went wrong with this team,
it's very clear to see. You know, you watch that
game seven, Joe Lmbaid and James Harden, they go for
a combined eight for twenty nine from the field, are
at thirty seven percent on shooting. Terrible, And when you
break it down, there's one clear reason for that.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Doc Rivers. Absolutely. You know, as a coach, you gotta
tell these guys, yo, stop missing shots. And Doc Rivers
clearly didn't do that. Even if he could coach. These
NBA coaching jobs, they're simple. All you got to do,
if you're a coach, all you got to do is speak.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
That's literally is has had a twenty year case of laryngitis.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
He can barely make out a word.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
This guy is saying, you know, he's more horse than
American Pharaoh.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah he is.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
How the hell could these players? How could they hear
him in an arena during a game?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You know, if someone had just gotten him Arico or something,
we'd be in the conference finals by now. Great point.
Tony couldn't agree more. All right, And the next thing
we got right, Pauli and Doni were right.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
You know another thing we said at the start of
the season, we said, this is not going to be
the year for the Sixers. Yeah, we said, no, you
can go back to our old episodes and listen to
the tapes. Yeah, you know, drive up our ad revenue exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
You know, now James Harden himself is backing up exactly
what we said.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You know, these idiots they want to ignore this, but
he came full with the truth. You know, he theres
this first full season with the team, and he explained
the loss to the Celtics by saying, quote, we're only
one year in. We played against the team who's been
together for quite a.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Few years now. Absolutely, Tony, that.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Right there points out why the Celtics had an unfair advantage.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
You know, this is so true. Teams that have been
together longer always have an advantage. Just look at the Warriors.
Well not that, but look at the Bucks for uh,
don't look at that either, No, look at Denver, Denver
there you go, look.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
At them, you go Denver, Yeah, exactly, and you know
this isn't just for sports, right, Tony, nothing good in
the first year of anything except this show was great
out the you know, number one, but exactly you know
you see this, We see this in other areas, you know,
like TV.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Right, look at one of the all time great sitcoms.
Of course, I'm talking about Three's Company. In the first
three seasons there was no Don Knats. They had mister Roper,
not funny fun but in season four they brought in
Don Knotts mister and the rest is television history.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Just such a terrific example that donate because mister Roper
lasted three seasons as Doc Rivers lasted three seasons, just absolutely,
just so great how you drawed the comparison there for
the audience.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Thank you. All right, let's move to another big story
out of the NBA where PAULI and DONI were right.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You know your people out there you're gonna say this
doesn't count, does a right because we didn't say it
on air, But that's because we knew that the media,
stupid media out there with twist dolls worst like.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You know what we got to do right.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Now is we got to defend someone who is once
again being unfairly adapt of course, what we do about
Jahn Morant, who again for some reason, is in hot
water just for flashing a gun on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I don't get it, Tony, this is ridiculous. Explain to
the people why you know, John Morant lives in Memphis.
The team is called the Grizzlies. If you live in
an area prone to grizzly attacks, then it would be
stupid not to carry a gun. You know. Frankly, when
I saw the video, I was shocked because I thought
(06:33):
he should be carrying something bigger, like a rifle or
a bazuka or something. Do you ever see the movie
The Relevant with Leonardo DiCaprio That one scene.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It's terrifying, terrific point that Tony, and you know Ja
Moran's critics out there, these idiots, you know, they're saying.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
That this is not how a role model.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Should behave excuse me, Oh yeah, well, why don't you
tell that to John Wayne?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, a real Harry led why at erk the best? Yeah? Yeah,
great point where Pauli and DONI were right? All right,
last one here.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You know, we've been saying this for months that Jalen
Hurts should be the highest paid QB in the League.
You know, you probably saying it because you know you
agree with us, and it makes us angry when we
bring up that he's no longer the highest paid q'b.
You know, the total is Lamar Jackson and apparently Patrick Mahomes.
They say he's going to get a bigger contract though
I heard that. But Dony, Jalen Hurts, he just did
(07:32):
something to outsmart them all, didn't he?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yes, as he always does.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Hit Jalen Hurts went and received his master's degree from
Oklahoma and move tony, because what do we know about
people with master's degrees? They earn much more than people
with regular degrees.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yup, they do. And by my calculations, if Patrick Mahomes
gets six hundred million, then you gotta give Jalen Hurts
at least two bit allion. Such a smart move to
get his masters exactly, you got to pay for that
extra education. And well, I'd love to show a more tony.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
But guess what, in a in a change of pattern
on this show, our.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Guest has actually had the balls to show right there
we go, all.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Right, so we go bring him on the Fusco Satellite
Network Satellite World. All right, this guy Native Son born
right here in Philadelphia. Twelve year NBA vet. We couldn't
be more proud of course six as we would have
(08:37):
been proud of you. We would have been much prouder
play for the Rockets, the Magic, the Kings, the Clippers.
Now he's on Fox Sports as and analyst, and he's
also a motivational speaker.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Anyway, let's bring him on Catino MOBILEI welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
How you doing man Hey, And you know.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
On the subject of how we do it, you know,
we know you had a bit of a hot condition.
You know, that's what caused you to retire from the league.
You know, we have a reputation, as you know, we
can be tough on our guests.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Its very tough on our guests. But we're going to
go back to easy today. Get scared of coming on
the show. Some don't show up, like sometimes they don't
even show up. So Skill, we're going to go easy
on you. We don't want to get you riled up.
We want the heart rate to stay low, blood pressure down,
We need that. Okay, yeah, exactly, Okay, So here's why
(09:26):
we brought you on today.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Obviously, you played for the Orlando Magic in two thousand
and four, the year after Doc Rivers got fired. Of course,
you know, in the last season that Doc was there,
that team, they finished an embarrassing twenty one and sixty one.
But you came in, and so did their new coach,
Johnny Davis. They improved to a highly respectable thirty six
and forty six, which is good for the Magic, you know. Yeah,
(09:49):
when you showed up, tell Us Katino, how relieved in
the building were people that, you know, Doc was finally
out of there.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I don't know if they would relieve man, you know
what I'm saying, Like I twenty one games the year prior,
and then I actually didn't want to leave Orlando, but
I got into a little you know, bumping the heads
with Johnny Davis. When I left, we were topping in
in Orlando. We were topping the East, one of the
top teams. And when I left, his guys didn't even
(10:18):
make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh so you know, look, thought yourself, which is good.
I like that good ego. Yeah, what was your beef
with Johnny Dave?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah happened? Was he worse than Doc Rivers?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
What was his Was he worse than Doc Rivers? This guy.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
No, Doc wasn't bad. Listen, Docs never coached me. I
think Doc's a good dude. But you know, as far
as Johnny, you know, Steve Reston and I were at
that time, you know, you know, back court of excitement
for the NBA and you know the team that we had.
I you know, I didn't want to share time with
(10:53):
the rookies. And you know the reason there was success
on our team at the time I was there. You know,
Grant Hill was coming off you know, injury and he's
feeling better. Dwhite Howe was a rookie. You know, he
was coming off the bench. We had a nice little team. Yeah,
you know, he thought that the scheme and everything was his,
and you know, come to find out the team broke up.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
You know, it's kind of like it just wasn't what
it was when I left.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
So what you're saying there is that Johnny Davis is
equally a shitty coach as.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Doc, just as much as Doc. Just follow Yeah, that's
what it sounded like.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Listen. All I'm saying is, uh, we didn't go to
the playoffs that year. They didn't go to the playoffs
the year.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
But you know, you know, just I have a question
for you. Since you played the game.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
You know Doc rivers he's had like a twenty year
case of laryngitis.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You can't understand the word this guy said. I can't
tell me.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
As a player, how important is it to actually be
able to hear and understand your coach when he's talking.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I don't know. Oh yeah, listen, I screamed in love
when I was younger. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
You know, I think Doc's are I think Doc. You know,
he's a very He's not a stand van Gundy. He's
not a Jeff van Gundy. And he's very talented as
a coach. But I just think the personality of Doc,
he's not pushy. So in not being pushy, people practice
bad habits throughout seasons and because you're not pushy, and
(12:28):
you know, guys just do what they want to do,
and when it starts to show in the playoffs, and
that's the that's the bad thing about situation with Doc.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
One of the rumors that we're hearing with the head
coaching vacancy for the six is is former Raptors coach
Nick Nurse. But don't you think that would be a
downgrade going from Doc to a nurse.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, I mean they both won a championship. Doctor don't
have more championships than this.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, but you know, as a man who suffers from
a hot condition, I just want to know, you know
who is rather to see if they say the doctors out,
here's a nurse.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Wouldn't that bother you? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Because nurses do more work.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Respect for nurses yeah, yeah, well you know you do
more work.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
This is a man who you have the experience here.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You don't spittle record, yeah you don't. Just back to
the Sixers.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, you know people are saying the Sixers season was
a failure, but when you look at it, Joel Embiid
won a title.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, he won the titling title. A scoring title is
harder to win.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You got to beat the six hundred people in the league,
even people on your own team.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Wouldn't you agree?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Scoring title more impressive than NBA title?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Get out of here? Are you serious? Are you guys
on dope at dog food?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
You mind?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Excuse scoring title? Yeah? Scoring titld on? Yeah. Don't want
you to get too upsets. Yeah, we could tell your
blood pressure is like one thirty six over eighty two.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Bring it back, which one is dope for dog food?
Which one is it? I'm trying to Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
He had to beat out five hundred players in the league.
He doubled your score. Yeah, Joel, what was your career
high in the season sixteen? He had thirty two?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah, No, my career high the season is twenty two.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Was that heart beats? Hot beats? Twenty two hot beats
per season? Yeah, that's what we're talking here.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Okay, listen, I'm gonna tell you this, what how did
that work out?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
But you being the scoring leader? How that wasn't matter?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Doesn't matter. We got a title already.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
What do you mean it doesn't matter?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Doesn't matter matter you brought it up.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
This is a sore subject for you, and can tell
why because you never played for the Sixers exactly wish
you wish you played for the Sixers.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I do not know.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I do not Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
He's getting a little agitated, Love, He probably doesn't want
to take it down enough.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Okay, Okay, we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
We're gonna move to a better topic, a more a
more positive note for you. We want to talk about
how you almost got traded to the Knicks, right and
then this was in the late though thousands, and then
they brought you in for a medical evaluation and they
found you.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Had this heart condition. How glad at that point were
you for that heart condition?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Do you go back and think of the years of
your life you would have lost had you had to play.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
For such a terrible organization.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
At the time, Dan d'An toni was the coach.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I wouldn't mind playing with D'Antoni, but I wasn't really
a fan of the guy Dolan, the owner.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I wasn't a fan of him.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
So I think, you know, I for me, truthfully, I
gotta be I should have been careful of how I
wish that one truth?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
What should you have done?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
I love New York. I love New York. I you
spent my summers in New York. I loved D'Antoni, but
I did not like the owner.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
He's a terrible, terrible Yeah, right, all right, I see
we're good.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I think we're a little calmer now, this is okay,
all right, I'm not afraid. I was going to call
the MT there for a second, but we were close.
But now you know, we saw you.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
On this other show, Katino.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You were talking about how Jah morant Is is not
being a good role model for flashing a gun. But
hold on here, I think you're missing the point. Yeah,
he lives in Memphis. The team is called the Grizzlies. Yeah,
if a Grizzly bears running around there, Well, wouldn't it
be smart to carry a gun?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
The Grizzlies are everywhere.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
No, it's not smart to listen licensed in a hoster
in a box.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
All good.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I'm not saying, you know, you shouldn't carry your gun.
But at the end of the day, did you're you know,
your big influence.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Model? What about? What about? What about John Wayne? You know?
Is he not a role model to you? Or Charles Bronson?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Charles Bronson, John Wayne? That wish?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, exactly, you wanted to be you watch Death Wish twelve.
I said, oh my god, what a guy here. He
doesn't take nothing. So I want to be after world's
number one sports catch and.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Look at you and look at you now? Amazing? I
love it.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Looks me I'm sensing a little said, look at.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
You now, you're not fighting. You're not fighting to fly
right now?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
You're fighting to fly?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Are you kidding me? We take on the whole sports
world over here. You are you are?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
You get in the next time I see you, I'm
gonna be brighten my fist right where the sun don't shine,
because guess what, guess what you're getting katinoed from the show.
You're out of here, You're done, You're off the show.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
By see you, you'll put your bed.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
We're hanging up the mobile phone and you get eaten
by a grizzly bear.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Go put your bag in the back of something, get
out of here?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Is he off the line? Jay? Hang up the fall?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I wish he was more like I guess last week
and you know, just didn't show up at all.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, exactly, that would have been way better.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, well, uh, let's not let him ruin what was
otherwise a terrific show and the usual those we want
to thank on new sponsor Upside and thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Are you kidding me? Definitely not in Upside here produce Jay?
What do you want? What corrections?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
What?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Hurry out?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Go?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
All right?
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Look, first you said Jah Moran needs a gun to
protect himself from grizzly Bears running around Memphis.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, bro, Yeah, the team's called the Grizzlies, Bro.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
They're called the Grizzlies because they originally played in Vancouver.
There are no Grizzly Bears in Memphis.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Oh yeah, well you know what's gonna be grizzly when
I murder you? Yeah, next time we talk bears, it's
gonna be where to barry your boss? Boom, that's it.
We're done. Let's get out of it here, We're done. No,
what it's like? Why hurry up? You said?
Speaker 5 (19:08):
James Harden and Joel Embiid combined to shoot thirty seven
percent from the floor in game seven.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, bro, horrible, it was terrible.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
No, your math is what's terrible. They took twenty nine
shots and made eight. That's twenty seven percent.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Oh yeah, well you know what's gonna take twenty nine shots?
My gun at your face?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah. And you know who has no shot yo with
every woman on the planet. Yeah, you had done. Let's
get out of here. I'm done.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Nope, No, no, no, what last?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Why why hurry up and go?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
And I can't believe I'm actually bringing this up, But
you said Three's Company didn't become a hit until they
got rid of mister Roper.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Bro, yeah, Team Furley bro. Yeah as usual, that's wrong.
It was the number two show in America when they
still had mister Roper.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Oh yeah, well they're gonna call me mister Roper after
I hang you.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, when you open your mouth, this becomes the number
two show. If you catch my drift bo you suck.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
You know. It's also great Tony, what's that Fell's hottest
free agent coming on this show next week. Just booked
super Bowl legend Nick Foles will be wack terriffic.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
You know, maybe we'll help him find his next dame.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You know they listen to this show, so they'll be
doning in, and we know you'll be doning into a
YouTube subscribe there. Follow us on tick dot go back
all the old bod episodes and Tony, great.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Job as always, same to you, another floorless show. We'll
see your people next week. See uh
All right, all right, yo yo yo, do your live
from Philly.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's the number one ringed Bolly in Tony Fosco show.
Yo yo yo.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Is Polly Foolsco here with Tony Fosco and Dony Yo.
You know the people out there, they've been waiting for
this show, you know, badgering us, where's the episode? When
you get a dark Sixers?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Exactly? People, you'll hear it NonStop, we know, yeah, exactly,
leave us alone. We'll get to you.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
You know, first of all, we hear you out there
saying that quote unquote the Sixes didn't show up in
Game seven people. If you want to say what not
showing up looks like go watch our last episode, right, Dony.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah exactly. Our guest is what they call a persona
non gracias. Yeah, more like a non guest.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Hopefully our guest actually shows today because I actually want
to speak to this guy, Tonty.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Now that Doc Rivers has gone from Philly finally Audio
fought in the Wind, Yeah yep, we want to get
some inside perspective today, So we're going to bring on
this guy. He was on a team the year after
Doc Rivers got fired. Our longtime NBA player Katino Mobley.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Who was on the two thousand and four. He was
lady to Magic.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
As you remember, right after Doc got fired, and most
of them straight up, how much better things got Orlando
after they got rid of Doc.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It was just what the doctor did in order.
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Speaker 1 (02:15):
Let's stop the surprised by the sixers implosion.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well we're not not us. That's why right now we're
going to go over everything.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
We got one hundred percent bang on the head as usual,
it's one of our most popular segments where Paulie and
Tony were.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Right where Pauli and Tony were right well Downy.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Just a terrible ending for anotherwise terrific Sixers season. Absolutely, Now,
when you look at what went wrong with this team,
it's very clear to see. You know, you watch that
game seven, Joe Lmbaid and James Harden, they go for
a combined eight for twenty nine from the field, are
at thirty seven percent on shooting. Terrible, And when you
break it down, there's one clear reason for that.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Doc Rivers. Absolutely. You know, as a coach, you gotta
tell these guys, yo, stop missing shots. And Doc Rivers
clearly didn't do that. Even if he could coach. These
NBA coaching jobs, they're simple. All you got to do,
if you're a coach, all you got to do is speak.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
That's literally is has had a twenty year case of laryngitis.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
He can barely make out a word.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
This guy is saying, you know, he's more horse than
American Pharaoh.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah he is.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
How the hell could these players? How could they hear
him in an arena during a game?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You know, if someone had just gotten him Arico or something,
we'd be in the conference finals by now. Great point.
Tony couldn't agree more. All right, And the next thing
we got right, Pauli and Doni were right.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
You know another thing we said at the start of
the season, we said, this is not going to be
the year for the Sixers. Yeah, we said, no, you
can go back to our old episodes and listen to
the tapes. Yeah, you know, drive up our ad revenue exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
You know, now James Harden himself is backing up exactly
what we said.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You know, these idiots they want to ignore this, but
he came full with the truth. You know, he theres
this first full season with the team, and he explained
the loss to the Celtics by saying, quote, we're only
one year in. We played against the team who's been
together for quite a.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Few years now. Absolutely, Tony, that.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Right there points out why the Celtics had an unfair advantage.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
You know, this is so true. Teams that have been
together longer always have an advantage. Just look at the Warriors.
Well not that, but look at the Bucks for uh,
don't look at that either, No, look at Denver, Denver
there you go, look.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
At them, you go Denver, Yeah, exactly, and you know
this isn't just for sports, right, Tony, nothing good in
the first year of anything except this show was great
out the you know, number one, but exactly you know
you see this, We see this in other areas, you know,
like TV.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Right, look at one of the all time great sitcoms.
Of course, I'm talking about Three's Company. In the first
three seasons there was no Don Knats. They had mister Roper,
not funny fun but in season four they brought in
Don Knotts mister and the rest is television history.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Just such a terrific example that donate because mister Roper
lasted three seasons as Doc Rivers lasted three seasons, just absolutely,
just so great how you drawed the comparison there for
the audience.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Thank you. All right, let's move to another big story
out of the NBA where PAULI and DONI were right.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You know your people out there you're gonna say this
doesn't count, does a right because we didn't say it
on air, But that's because we knew that the media,
stupid media out there with twist dolls worst like.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You know what we got to do right.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Now is we got to defend someone who is once
again being unfairly adapt of course, what we do about
Jahn Morant, who again for some reason, is in hot
water just for flashing a gun on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I don't get it, Tony, this is ridiculous. Explain to
the people why you know, John Morant lives in Memphis.
The team is called the Grizzlies. If you live in
an area prone to grizzly attacks, then it would be
stupid not to carry a gun. You know. Frankly, when
I saw the video, I was shocked because I thought
(06:33):
he should be carrying something bigger, like a rifle or
a bazuka or something. Do you ever see the movie
The Relevant with Leonardo DiCaprio That one scene.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It's terrifying, terrific point that Tony, and you know Ja
Moran's critics out there, these idiots, you know, they're saying.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
That this is not how a role model.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Should behave excuse me, Oh yeah, well, why don't you
tell that to John Wayne?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, a real Harry led why at erk the best? Yeah? Yeah,
great point where Pauli and DONI were right? All right,
last one here.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You know, we've been saying this for months that Jalen
Hurts should be the highest paid QB in the League.
You know, you probably saying it because you know you
agree with us, and it makes us angry when we
bring up that he's no longer the highest paid q'b.
You know, the total is Lamar Jackson and apparently Patrick Mahomes.
They say he's going to get a bigger contract though
I heard that. But Dony, Jalen Hurts, he just did
(07:32):
something to outsmart them all, didn't he?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yes, as he always does.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Hit Jalen Hurts went and received his master's degree from
Oklahoma and move tony, because what do we know about
people with master's degrees? They earn much more than people
with regular degrees.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yup, they do. And by my calculations, if Patrick Mahomes
gets six hundred million, then you gotta give Jalen Hurts
at least two bit allion. Such a smart move to
get his masters exactly, you got to pay for that
extra education. And well, I'd love to show a more tony.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
But guess what, in a in a change of pattern
on this show, our.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Guest has actually had the balls to show right there
we go, all.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Right, so we go bring him on the Fusco Satellite
Network Satellite World. All right, this guy Native Son born
right here in Philadelphia. Twelve year NBA vet. We couldn't
be more proud of course six as we would have
(08:37):
been proud of you. We would have been much prouder
play for the Rockets, the Magic, the Kings, the Clippers.
Now he's on Fox Sports as and analyst, and he's
also a motivational speaker.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Anyway, let's bring him on Catino MOBILEI welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
How you doing man Hey, And you know.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
On the subject of how we do it, you know,
we know you had a bit of a hot condition.
You know, that's what caused you to retire from the league.
You know, we have a reputation, as you know, we
can be tough on our guests.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Its very tough on our guests. But we're going to
go back to easy today. Get scared of coming on
the show. Some don't show up, like sometimes they don't
even show up. So Skill, we're going to go easy
on you. We don't want to get you riled up.
We want the heart rate to stay low, blood pressure down,
We need that. Okay, yeah, exactly, Okay, So here's why
(09:26):
we brought you on today.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Obviously, you played for the Orlando Magic in two thousand
and four, the year after Doc Rivers got fired. Of course,
you know, in the last season that Doc was there,
that team, they finished an embarrassing twenty one and sixty one.
But you came in, and so did their new coach,
Johnny Davis. They improved to a highly respectable thirty six
and forty six, which is good for the Magic, you know. Yeah,
(09:49):
when you showed up, tell Us Katino, how relieved in
the building were people that, you know, Doc was finally
out of there.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I don't know if they would relieve man, you know
what I'm saying, Like I twenty one games the year prior,
and then I actually didn't want to leave Orlando, but
I got into a little you know, bumping the heads
with Johnny Davis. When I left, we were topping in
in Orlando. We were topping the East, one of the
top teams. And when I left, his guys didn't even
(10:18):
make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh so you know, look, thought yourself, which is good.
I like that good ego. Yeah, what was your beef
with Johnny Dave?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah happened? Was he worse than Doc Rivers?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
What was his Was he worse than Doc Rivers? This guy.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
No, Doc wasn't bad. Listen, Docs never coached me. I
think Doc's a good dude. But you know, as far
as Johnny, you know, Steve Reston and I were at
that time, you know, you know, back court of excitement
for the NBA and you know the team that we had.
I you know, I didn't want to share time with
(10:53):
the rookies. And you know the reason there was success
on our team at the time I was there. You know,
Grant Hill was coming off you know, injury and he's
feeling better. Dwhite Howe was a rookie. You know, he
was coming off the bench. We had a nice little team. Yeah,
you know, he thought that the scheme and everything was his,
and you know, come to find out the team broke up.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
You know, it's kind of like it just wasn't what
it was when I left.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
So what you're saying there is that Johnny Davis is
equally a shitty coach as.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Doc, just as much as Doc. Just follow Yeah, that's
what it sounded like.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Listen. All I'm saying is, uh, we didn't go to
the playoffs that year. They didn't go to the playoffs
the year.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
But you know, you know, just I have a question
for you. Since you played the game.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
You know Doc rivers he's had like a twenty year
case of laryngitis.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You can't understand the word this guy said. I can't
tell me.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
As a player, how important is it to actually be
able to hear and understand your coach when he's talking.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I don't know. Oh yeah, listen, I screamed in love
when I was younger. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
You know, I think Doc's are I think Doc. You know,
he's a very He's not a stand van Gundy. He's
not a Jeff van Gundy. And he's very talented as
a coach. But I just think the personality of Doc,
he's not pushy. So in not being pushy, people practice
bad habits throughout seasons and because you're not pushy, and
(12:28):
you know, guys just do what they want to do,
and when it starts to show in the playoffs, and
that's the that's the bad thing about situation with Doc.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
One of the rumors that we're hearing with the head
coaching vacancy for the six is is former Raptors coach
Nick Nurse. But don't you think that would be a
downgrade going from Doc to a nurse.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, I mean they both won a championship. Doctor don't
have more championships than this.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, but you know, as a man who suffers from
a hot condition, I just want to know, you know
who is rather to see if they say the doctors out,
here's a nurse.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Wouldn't that bother you? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Because nurses do more work.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Respect for nurses yeah, yeah, well you know you do
more work.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
This is a man who you have the experience here.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You don't spittle record, yeah you don't. Just back to
the Sixers.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, you know people are saying the Sixers season was
a failure, but when you look at it, Joel Embiid
won a title.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, he won the titling title. A scoring title is
harder to win.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You got to beat the six hundred people in the league,
even people on your own team.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Wouldn't you agree?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Scoring title more impressive than NBA title?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Get out of here? Are you serious? Are you guys
on dope at dog food?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
You mind?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Excuse scoring title? Yeah? Scoring titld on? Yeah. Don't want
you to get too upsets. Yeah, we could tell your
blood pressure is like one thirty six over eighty two.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Bring it back, which one is dope for dog food?
Which one is it? I'm trying to Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
He had to beat out five hundred players in the league.
He doubled your score. Yeah, Joel, what was your career
high in the season sixteen? He had thirty two?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah, No, my career high the season is twenty two.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Was that heart beats? Hot beats? Twenty two hot beats
per season? Yeah, that's what we're talking here.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Okay, listen, I'm gonna tell you this, what how did
that work out?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
But you being the scoring leader? How that wasn't matter?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Doesn't matter. We got a title already.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
What do you mean it doesn't matter?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Doesn't matter matter you brought it up.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
This is a sore subject for you, and can tell
why because you never played for the Sixers exactly wish
you wish you played for the Sixers.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I do not know.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I do not Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
He's getting a little agitated, Love, He probably doesn't want
to take it down enough.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Okay, Okay, we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
We're gonna move to a better topic, a more a
more positive note for you. We want to talk about
how you almost got traded to the Knicks, right and
then this was in the late though thousands, and then
they brought you in for a medical evaluation and they
found you.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Had this heart condition. How glad at that point were
you for that heart condition?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Do you go back and think of the years of
your life you would have lost had you had to play.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
For such a terrible organization.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
At the time, Dan d'An toni was the coach.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I wouldn't mind playing with D'Antoni, but I wasn't really
a fan of the guy Dolan, the owner.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I wasn't a fan of him.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
So I think, you know, I for me, truthfully, I
gotta be I should have been careful of how I
wish that one truth?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
What should you have done?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
I love New York. I love New York. I you
spent my summers in New York. I loved D'Antoni, but
I did not like the owner.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
He's a terrible, terrible Yeah, right, all right, I see
we're good.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I think we're a little calmer now, this is okay,
all right, I'm not afraid. I was going to call
the MT there for a second, but we were close.
But now you know, we saw you.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
On this other show, Katino.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You were talking about how Jah morant Is is not
being a good role model for flashing a gun. But
hold on here, I think you're missing the point. Yeah,
he lives in Memphis. The team is called the Grizzlies. Yeah,
if a Grizzly bears running around there, Well, wouldn't it
be smart to carry a gun?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
The Grizzlies are everywhere.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
No, it's not smart to listen licensed in a hoster
in a box.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
All good.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I'm not saying, you know, you shouldn't carry your gun.
But at the end of the day, did you're you know,
your big influence.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Model? What about? What about? What about John Wayne? You know?
Is he not a role model to you? Or Charles Bronson?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Charles Bronson, John Wayne? That wish?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, exactly, you wanted to be you watch Death Wish twelve.
I said, oh my god, what a guy here. He
doesn't take nothing. So I want to be after world's
number one sports catch and.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Look at you and look at you now? Amazing? I
love it.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Looks me I'm sensing a little said, look at.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
You now, you're not fighting. You're not fighting to fly
right now?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
You're fighting to fly?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Are you kidding me? We take on the whole sports
world over here. You are you are?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
You get in the next time I see you, I'm
gonna be brighten my fist right where the sun don't shine,
because guess what, guess what you're getting katinoed from the show.
You're out of here, You're done, You're off the show.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
By see you, you'll put your bed.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
We're hanging up the mobile phone and you get eaten
by a grizzly bear.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Go put your bag in the back of something, get
out of here?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Is he off the line? Jay? Hang up the fall?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I wish he was more like I guess last week
and you know, just didn't show up at all.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, exactly, that would have been way better.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, well, uh, let's not let him ruin what was
otherwise a terrific show and the usual those we want
to thank on new sponsor Upside and thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Are you kidding me? Definitely not in Upside here produce Jay?
What do you want? What corrections?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
What?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Hurry out?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Go?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
All right?
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Look, first you said Jah Moran needs a gun to
protect himself from grizzly Bears running around Memphis.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, bro, Yeah, the team's called the Grizzlies, Bro.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
They're called the Grizzlies because they originally played in Vancouver.
There are no Grizzly Bears in Memphis.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Oh yeah, well you know what's gonna be grizzly when
I murder you? Yeah, next time we talk bears, it's
gonna be where to barry your boss? Boom, that's it.
We're done. Let's get out of it here, We're done. No,
what it's like? Why hurry up? You said?
Speaker 5 (19:08):
James Harden and Joel Embiid combined to shoot thirty seven
percent from the floor in game seven.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, bro, horrible, it was terrible.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
No, your math is what's terrible. They took twenty nine
shots and made eight. That's twenty seven percent.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Oh yeah, well you know what's gonna take twenty nine shots?
My gun at your face?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah. And you know who has no shot yo with
every woman on the planet. Yeah, you had done. Let's
get out of here. I'm done.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Nope, No, no, no, what last?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Why why hurry up and go?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
And I can't believe I'm actually bringing this up, But
you said Three's Company didn't become a hit until they
got rid of mister Roper.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Bro, yeah, Team Furley bro. Yeah as usual, that's wrong.
It was the number two show in America when they
still had mister Roper.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Oh yeah, well they're gonna call me mister Roper after
I hang you.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, when you open your mouth, this becomes the number
two show. If you catch my drift bo you suck.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
You know. It's also great Tony, what's that Fell's hottest
free agent coming on this show next week. Just booked
super Bowl legend Nick Foles will be wack terriffic.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
You know, maybe we'll help him find his next dame.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You know they listen to this show, so they'll be
doning in, and we know you'll be doning into a
YouTube subscribe there. Follow us on tick dot go back
all the old bod episodes and Tony, great.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Job as always, same to you, another floorless show. We'll
see your people next week. See uh
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