Jason Whitlock makes an OUTRAGEOUS claim about the Shannon Sharpe breakup with Skip Bayless on "Undisputed". Paulie & Tony also discuss Whitlock's latest EMBARRASSING article which TOTALLY INSULTS several NBA stars... and then they KICK HIM TO THE CURB!!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On today's show, We're gonna have someone on that we
vowed never to have on this show again, but hey,
we're gonna do it anyway.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let's go roll the intro.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
All right, all right, and your line from Philly it's
a number one Raven Paulo as Polly Fool's go here
with Tony Foolsco.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
And Tony Yo.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Huge show to New Year, can't we know?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We continue to chronicle the breakup of Skip Dayless's Swanton Shop,
which shows while the whole concept of embraced debate has
been nothing but a total.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Failure, colossal disaster exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
You know people that're tired of all this arguing in
this back and forth.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You know, we have a new slogan.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Instead of embrace debate, how about erase debate? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Perfect, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
You know, we all know that when it comes to
sports and opinion, there's only one correct point of view,
and that's it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Don't you agreet Tony one hundred spot on?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You know, that's why we've been so successful for so
many years in this business, because you know the audience
is they don't want to hit two sides of everything.
They just they just had to get to tell them
the correct side and move on.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Isn't that right? Don't it?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
See this is this people take notes, you know, the
people in this context is how you.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Make great sports contents.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Absolutely absolutely, And as the saying goes, we're like two
p's in a pond over here.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That's what we are.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Anyway, Today we're gonna bring on a man who has
tried to make it on debate shows to his peril.
Now he's gone solo, either because he wanted to do
it because you know, nobody could stand him anymore. Anyway,
we'll ask him about that. You know someone who has
been kicked off this show many times. I gonna guess
it's gonna happen again, most likely Jason Whitlock, and we're
(01:52):
gonna get his thoughts on which side he's on, Skip
of Shannons.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, well, probably the wrong side as usual, That's what
I'm gonna guess anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, before we get into that, first, a word from
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Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, A couple of weeks ago, I got my aunt
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I saw them the other night, and Nunzio seemed so happy.
He told me he really enjoyed eating out down Under
with my aunt. I asked him what he ordered at Outback,
and then he seemed confused. He said he'd never eaten
(02:38):
there and didn't even know what Outback was. And I said,
but you talked about eating out down Under with my
aunt And oh uh, forget what I was saying. Let's
just move on.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Terrific story, Tony. Anyway, a special treat for.
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Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, now another check this out of the way.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Let's get right into our top story story. All right, First,
out the Gate, the big story in sports media, Skip
Dayliss and Shannon show yea, you know, get your divorce
because they seem to clearly hate each other.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Any way.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
You know, people are saying that this is all Skip's fault,
that Shannon's right believe in all this what you know,
this is what I totally hate about sports TV these days.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
You know, this idea that.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
These former athletes can come on and be better at
sports talk than journalists and seasoned radios. It's just ridiculous
and frankly rude to our proud profession, isn't.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It, right, Tony.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You know, it's a toxic situation because these Hall of
Fame athletes on TV now, they just naturally assume they
know more about sports because they, you know, we're in
locker rooms and actually on the field, and that's a
real problem.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
It's just terrible, you know, ruining the whole foundation of
what our proud industry of sports doc radio is built on.
You know, we understand, and Skip Bayless understands tool that
the only way to have a perspective on sports is
to have no direct association with it at all.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
That's how you remain.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Objective, exactly. You gotta be objective.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, And you know, perfect segue that, Tony as usual,
because on the subject of another true journalist in this business,
we saw an absolutely terrific take gampere this week from
just a brilliant observer of sports.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Of course, I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Chris mad Dog Russo, who said boldly and correctly, mind you,
that this year's Nuggets team was totally overrated and that
the nineteen eighty six Celtics would sweep the Nuggets four
roaw no contest, and Tony mad Dog Russo is so
right here is it?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Absolutely this year's Nuggets team would stand no chance against
the eighty six Celtics. All you gotta do is look
at the number of Hall of Famers on each team.
That's the ultimate way to judge a team. That eighty
six Celtics had six Hall of Famers, the Nuggets have none.
That's a glaring difference.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Such a great point that, Dony, And you know another
angle here that you know, I can't believe the media,
or maybe I can believe that the media is just
too chicken to talk about.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
You'll hear it on this show people.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Doesn't anybody find it a little strange that in the
span of a week we've seen two athletes win major
championships from a country that nobody's heard of. You got
Novak Djokovic, Serbian when in the French Open. Then you
got Nicola Djokik, also Serbian, within the NBA finals, and
(05:47):
nobody in our business seems to bat and I find
and find this weird.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It's it's very disconcerting, isn't.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It, Tony Very? You know, I don't get my information
from the Internet because I'm not dumb and gullible. I
go to trusted sources like Encyclopedias. I went to my
most trusted world book, Encyclopedia that I've had for thirty years.
And what's so strange is that there's no mention of
a country called Serbia. But now everyone's talking about Serbia
(06:17):
this and Serbia that. Isn't it just a little strange
how this quote unquote country is so important all of
a sudden.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Just terrific perspective and research that Dony and Yank you
what I'm about to say is controversial, but you know
it's a duty as journalists it must be said.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
What about Chernobyl.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You know, you had all that nuclear radiation springing all
over the place like forty years ago or so.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
You look now at what's going on.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
All of a sudden, you got these monster athletes sprouting
up everywhere in this country over there.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
You know we've seen this before. Just look at the
incredible Hulk. The radiation transformed Bruce Banner and made him huge.
You apps, abolutely one hundred percent have to consider that
maybe all those gamma rays from Chernobyl got into their
DNA and gave them super strength.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You absolutely have to.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You know, this is what they call in the business
people investigative journalism.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
We do real news on the show, unlike.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Well the outlets and a ninety three years.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, as we head into the summer, you know this
time of year, the sports world starts to slow down.
We all know that, but you know it doesn't stop
these desperate sites like ESPN dot Com from try and
act like all these stories going on are a big dal.
So right now, what we're gonna do is I'm gonna
read actual headlines from the front page of ESPN dot
Com to Tony and I'm gonna see if he cares
(07:41):
or not. It's a segment we call do you give
a fund?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Do you give a all? Right?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
First headline here, Tony Nevada passes three hundred and eighty
million dollar bill to fund A's stadium.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Do you'll give.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
An I pass on reading this article.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
No Yankees owner firm in support of struggling Volpe.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Do you'll give a I will be struggling to read
this article.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
No Rangers hiring ex Capital's head coach Laviolette.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Do you give a.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I'm going to leave violet This article unclicked.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
No Najee Harris backs Ourb's calls out longevity narrative.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Do you give a fun?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
This narrative has no longevity, only short jevity.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
No Ambappe hits out at France over Messi treatment.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Do you'll give a hmm? I'm going to m skipe
this article.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
No Tiafo Mussetti to face off in stute Gard quarters.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Do you'll give a hmm?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You know, given the recent success of Francis Tiafo, all
eyes will be on this match. Following the recent retirement
of Serena Williams, the US Tennisse sees and die in
need of a new face. While Tiafo does only have
a fifty one career win percentage, he is twenty three
and nine this year and picked up his first non
(09:19):
hard court title when taking the US Men's Clay Court Championships.
So I'm interested to see if he can continue that
momentum against Mussetti, a very formidable sixth seed. So yes,
I do give a wow.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Okay, then yeah that concludes us.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
There you go, do you'll give a give?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
And uh, well, just in time, donty, because I see
our guest coming on the line, So let's bring him
on the Fusco Satellite Networks Satellite All right, I guess
today hosts his own show Feels with Jason Whitlock on
Blaze Media to be on ESPN, FS one and a
bunch of other networks that quote unquote parted ways with him,
(10:05):
you know who knows what happened, but that does make
himself an expert on the topic we're about to discuss,
so let's bring him in.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Jason Whitlock, welcome back, come back to this show.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Yeah on the cry On put expert in parting ways?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Jason with about expert.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Well, first of all, it's a it's a Chiron, so
congratulations on knowing this business. But Cryon does seem to
fit your style of media, so maybe it wasn't a
misspeaker anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
All right, let's just move on. You know, rough start
there for you, Jason, but we'll let you bring it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Okay, you can still make up ground here.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You only have twenty thirty years in TV. Maybe you
need one more. All right, let's start with the Skip
and Shannon breakup, right. You know, it sounds like they
really did not like each other at the end. There
you we all know you have worked on many debate
shows where you know, people started at the end to
let's say, take umbradge with you, you know, co host directors, producers,
network heads, wardrobe people and means, yeah, but now we
(11:00):
want to know whose side of you taking care Skip
of Shannon's.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
That's a tough tough because I think they both have,
you know, compelling arguments they both have aside to their story.
I didn't like the way Shannon handled the Damar Hamblin
deal and threw Skip Bayless under the bus.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I didn't like that at all.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
I have to admit Shannon did become the driving force
on that show. He was the star of that show,
and I have to admit that. But did Shannon treat
Skip properly in my view? In my view the Damar
Hamblin situation, throwing him under a bus, I didn't like
(11:48):
that at all, and I understand why that doom the
relationship from Skip's point of view, Uh, you know, Skip's controlling,
uh treated you know, I think, in Shannon's mind, treated
Shannon as inferior and a stepchild for seven straight years
and probably should have given up some ground and made
(12:12):
it more of a fifty to fifty relationship in terms
of topics on the show and things like that.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
I think Shannon had earned that. You know, he was
the star of that show.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That is the longest we've ever let anyone talk on
the show. So congratulations to.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
You, because I admittedly took a nap during that answer.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Oh oh sorry, but okay, anyway, you know he's onto something, right.
We got a problem with these athletes on TV.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You know exactly what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, these Hall of Fame athletes, they think they know
more than journalists.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Because yeah, they've been in the locker rooms and on
the field.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So what that doesn't that doesn't mean they know more
than journalists exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So isn't Shannon from a journalistic point of view, actually
inferior to Skip?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
It?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
What about journalists from a journalation's point of view? No
question about it.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Look, I thought it was a terrible look the way
Shannon turned into a groupie for Lebron James.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Shannon's a Hall.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Of Fame NFL player, and he went on TV for
five six straight years pretending to be a Lebron James groupie.
I thought that was beneath Shannon, and it certainly isn't
journalistically sound. And so yeah, skip the superior journalist, but Shannon,
the superior personality.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
That is so well said.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You know, this is again agreement.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Forget the debate, agreement, This embrace debate is stupid. That's
why we're saying, erase debate. This is what should be two,
you know, three people getting together to agree on Yes.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
No more embrace debate. That's over.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Let me say this, didn't you I thought it was
hilarious when Shannon grabbed a Kleenex on his last day
and I thought he was wiping away tears.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Skip, when you lay your head down tonight, I just
want you to see one thing. Give everything I had.
I give you everything. That was comical to me.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
It was like, hold on, man, y'all weren't a war,
y'all weren't playing football or basketball games.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
But I give you everything. Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Honestly, I'm kind of moved by this recreation so on
very emotions, sand and Sharp was faking it?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Yeah, those two you can't be liking tweets calling Skip
a piece of doodoo and then the next day beyond
air about I love you Skip, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Wow, send this to the sports on me.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
That's what he was doing exactly, and it was a
performance where Skip is a bit more authentic.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
You know, Tony, I do agree Skip Bayless.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
When I think of authenticity in this business, I think
of Skip Bayless, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
And I also think of you, Jason. And you don't
want to know why, because.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Even when you have takes that are terrible, you stick
by them. Ye. I started an article you posted today.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Here was the title of the article.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm gonna read this to you, Nicola Djokitch's indifference to
NBA greatness speaks to the pitfall of globalism.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
So that thanks the question.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
When you wrote that article, were you trying to get
as few people to read it as humanly possible?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
No? I was not.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
I was trying to use sports to make a bigger
point about society at large. That's what I do all
the time, Guys.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Sounds fascinating. But all right, I keep going, yeah, go ahead,
I want to hear this. Take it.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
So, I was connecting it to the larger thing that's
going on at large.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
When you start bringing in foreign talent and.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Different cultures to America, you start losing the identity of
your institutions like the NBA or whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
You know, I got giving me. You wrote this whole article.
I got two words to refute it.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Give it to him, Tony.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Joel Embiid, There you go.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Joel Embiid comes over to this country and immediately wins
a title. And of course we're talking about the scoring title. Yes,
more intensive than an NBA title. You gotta beat five
hundred players.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
You can rely on your.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Team, you can't have your teammates do it for you.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Now, what do you say, Joel Embiid proves you're totally wrong?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Did you listen to the Doc Rivers interview with Bill Simmons.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Boy, stop listening to Doc Rivers on not in the
middle of Game seven.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Just like the rest of the Sixers.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Those guys are hard to coach.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Man, Joel Embid, you know, good player, but I don't
think he takes the game seriously enough.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Uh, scoring title, thirty three points a game.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, what's your scoring average? From what I heard of
going on in Los Angeles?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
It's zero?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, zero in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, we heard your Saturday nights are pretty empty there,
whitlock yep in Nashville too.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
That's accurate.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
See, that's see, that's called journalism. That's how you do
it right there, how you do a journalism learn wit Locksley.
We did the backstory.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I am now on the subject.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Of journal journalism. You're gonna you're gonna love this. In fact,
you're gonna kick yourself for not realize watch this. You know,
you know you're you like a conspiracy, right you do.
But you're kind of you kind of whiffed on this one.
You know, if you're in the past week, we've seen
two players, two athletes from the same random country win
major championships. You got Novak Djokovic, a Serbian, He goes
(17:32):
and wins the French Open. Then you got another Serbian,
Nicola Djokick, he wins the NBA Finals. It makes no
sense how this random country is producing all these dominant
athletes unless you look at one thing. Jason Chernobyl nuclear
accident forty years ago, and then of a sudden, now
you've got genetic mutations now appearing in the population. Over there,
(17:54):
you got a seven footer who can shoot three points
like a small person. Makes no sense unless you think
about it, your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I'm gonna have to give this some thought.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
This some thought, man, This this is like, uh well,
the first time I ever saw a loose change about
nine to eleven.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
It blew my mind.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
See, he's jealoustony, he's jealous. So now he's jealous.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Maybe the nuclear thing has, you know, empowered these guys
and made them special athletes.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
I'm gonna have to give this some thought.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I just come in and admit it's a folly Tony.
That is the finest piece of journalism I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I bowed nothing close to it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
No, I'm not going to say that.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
See I know it, I know it.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Let me just tell yourself and Jason, you got your
egos too big, But you know it's all so big.
It's the door and I'm gonna throw you right out
of it right now because you're up this show show.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
I just got done exercising. I need to go eat.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I'm exercising my right.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, wait, exercise in your off the show from possessing
the show.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
See ya, you know what this means?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Oh, get out of here, Jay, Hang up the phone.
Number one.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Number one is what that means?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Off the line, Jay, hang up the phone.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
They have it people.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
That's officially the nineteenth show that Jason Whitlock has been
thrown off of.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
YEP, at some point we got to witlock him out
of the show. He can't come on anymore.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
They're well said, Tony.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Know that a great way to turn around, because it's
otherwise a terrific show.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
As always.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
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Speaker 3 (19:40):
If it isn't someone I want to take out Back and.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
One, Oh produce it, Jay, What do you want?
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Corrections?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
What?
Speaker 4 (19:48):
What?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Hurry up?
Speaker 6 (19:49):
You said the eighty six Celtics were better than this
year's Nuggets because they had more Hall of Famers.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, bro, yeah totally.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
But you do realize all those Celtics players weren't Hall
of famers when they were playing, so that argument is
just plain idiotic.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Oh yeah, well, I'd like to see you on a
plane that crashes.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, you're going to be like most play is in
the Hall of Fame. Dead Yeah done, that's it. No more,
We're done.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
No, you said Serbian athletes are so dominant because of
the nuclear effects of Chernobyl.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, bro, crazy, upsetting, but true.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Yeah, if that even was true. Nuclear radiation doesn't make
it stronger. You only see that happen in comic books,
not in real life.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Oh yeah, well you know what else you only see
in comic books nerds like you.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, and you know what's also not in real life?
Your girlfriend. Yeah, he's done. Let's get out of it here,
we're done.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
By the way, what you do realize why there's no
such country called Serbia thirty years ago?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
It's mysterious, bro, very mysterious.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Serbia was part of Yugoslavia, then it declared independence in
two thousand and six. But I shouldn't be surprised if
you don't know that though.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Oh yeah, well, speaking of surprises, wait until you start
your car tonight.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, forget Yugo Slavia, it's gonna be you go kabu
me ya. You're done.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Great, he's done. He's so he sid he's terrified. Oh
but hey, here's something not to be terrified of. What
it's got Some big nose across my desk, hed, what
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Speaker 2 (22:08):
You, Bully, another floorless show.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
There you go. We'll see people next week.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
See uh
On today's show, We're gonna have someone on that we
vowed never to have on this show again, but hey,
we're gonna do it anyway.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let's go roll the intro.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
All right, all right, and your line from Philly it's
a number one Raven Paulo as Polly Fool's go here
with Tony Foolsco.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
And Tony Yo.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Huge show to New Year, can't we know?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We continue to chronicle the breakup of Skip Dayless's Swanton Shop,
which shows while the whole concept of embraced debate has
been nothing but a total.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Failure, colossal disaster exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
You know people that're tired of all this arguing in
this back and forth.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You know, we have a new slogan.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Instead of embrace debate, how about erase debate? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Perfect, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
You know, we all know that when it comes to
sports and opinion, there's only one correct point of view,
and that's it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Don't you agreet Tony one hundred spot on?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You know, that's why we've been so successful for so
many years in this business, because you know the audience
is they don't want to hit two sides of everything.
They just they just had to get to tell them
the correct side and move on.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Isn't that right? Don't it?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
See this is this people take notes, you know, the
people in this context is how you.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Make great sports contents.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Absolutely absolutely, And as the saying goes, we're like two
p's in a pond over here.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That's what we are.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Anyway, Today we're gonna bring on a man who has
tried to make it on debate shows to his peril.
Now he's gone solo, either because he wanted to do
it because you know, nobody could stand him anymore. Anyway,
we'll ask him about that. You know someone who has
been kicked off this show many times. I gonna guess
it's gonna happen again, most likely Jason Whitlock, and we're
(01:52):
gonna get his thoughts on which side he's on, Skip
of Shannons.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, well, probably the wrong side as usual, That's what
I'm gonna guess anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, before we get into that, first, a word from
our good friends at Outback Steakhouse. Have you ever tried
Australian food? Well, believe it or not, it's not as
weird and off putting as it sounds. In fact, Tony,
you have your own story here tell the people.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, A couple of weeks ago, I got my aunt
Marie and her boyfriend Nunzio a gift card to Outback Steakhouse. Well,
I saw them the other night, and Nunzio seemed so happy.
He told me he really enjoyed eating out down Under
with my aunt. I asked him what he ordered at Outback,
and then he seemed confused. He said he'd never eaten
(02:38):
there and didn't even know what Outback was. And I said,
but you talked about eating out down Under with my
aunt And oh uh, forget what I was saying. Let's
just move on.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Terrific story, Tony. Anyway, a special treat for.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Our listeners, visit Outback dot com now and to the
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Speaker 3 (03:00):
One hundred dollars or more off of only valid in Alaska.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, now another check this out of the way.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Let's get right into our top story story. All right, First,
out the Gate, the big story in sports media, Skip
Dayliss and Shannon show yea, you know, get your divorce
because they seem to clearly hate each other.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Any way.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
You know, people are saying that this is all Skip's fault,
that Shannon's right believe in all this what you know,
this is what I totally hate about sports TV these days.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
You know, this idea that.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
These former athletes can come on and be better at
sports talk than journalists and seasoned radios. It's just ridiculous
and frankly rude to our proud profession, isn't.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It, right, Tony.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You know, it's a toxic situation because these Hall of
Fame athletes on TV now, they just naturally assume they
know more about sports because they, you know, we're in
locker rooms and actually on the field, and that's a
real problem.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
It's just terrible, you know, ruining the whole foundation of
what our proud industry of sports doc radio is built on.
You know, we understand, and Skip Bayless understands tool that
the only way to have a perspective on sports is
to have no direct association with it at all.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
That's how you remain.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Objective, exactly. You gotta be objective.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, And you know, perfect segue that, Tony as usual,
because on the subject of another true journalist in this business,
we saw an absolutely terrific take gampere this week from
just a brilliant observer of sports.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Of course, I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Chris mad Dog Russo, who said boldly and correctly, mind you,
that this year's Nuggets team was totally overrated and that
the nineteen eighty six Celtics would sweep the Nuggets four
roaw no contest, and Tony mad Dog Russo is so
right here is it?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Absolutely this year's Nuggets team would stand no chance against
the eighty six Celtics. All you gotta do is look
at the number of Hall of Famers on each team.
That's the ultimate way to judge a team. That eighty
six Celtics had six Hall of Famers, the Nuggets have none.
That's a glaring difference.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Such a great point that, Dony, And you know another
angle here that you know, I can't believe the media,
or maybe I can believe that the media is just
too chicken to talk about.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
You'll hear it on this show people.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Doesn't anybody find it a little strange that in the
span of a week we've seen two athletes win major
championships from a country that nobody's heard of. You got
Novak Djokovic, Serbian when in the French Open. Then you
got Nicola Djokik, also Serbian, within the NBA finals, and
(05:47):
nobody in our business seems to bat and I find
and find this weird.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It's it's very disconcerting, isn't.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It, Tony Very? You know, I don't get my information
from the Internet because I'm not dumb and gullible. I
go to trusted sources like Encyclopedias. I went to my
most trusted world book, Encyclopedia that I've had for thirty years.
And what's so strange is that there's no mention of
a country called Serbia. But now everyone's talking about Serbia
(06:17):
this and Serbia that. Isn't it just a little strange
how this quote unquote country is so important all of
a sudden.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Just terrific perspective and research that Dony and Yank you
what I'm about to say is controversial, but you know
it's a duty as journalists it must be said.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
What about Chernobyl.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You know, you had all that nuclear radiation springing all
over the place like forty years ago or so.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
You look now at what's going on.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
All of a sudden, you got these monster athletes sprouting
up everywhere in this country over there.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
You know we've seen this before. Just look at the
incredible Hulk. The radiation transformed Bruce Banner and made him huge.
You apps, abolutely one hundred percent have to consider that
maybe all those gamma rays from Chernobyl got into their
DNA and gave them super strength.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You absolutely have to.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You know, this is what they call in the business
people investigative journalism.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
We do real news on the show, unlike.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Well the outlets and a ninety three years.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, as we head into the summer, you know this
time of year, the sports world starts to slow down.
We all know that, but you know it doesn't stop
these desperate sites like ESPN dot Com from try and
act like all these stories going on are a big dal.
So right now, what we're gonna do is I'm gonna
read actual headlines from the front page of ESPN dot
Com to Tony and I'm gonna see if he cares
(07:41):
or not. It's a segment we call do you give
a fund?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Do you give a all? Right?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
First headline here, Tony Nevada passes three hundred and eighty
million dollar bill to fund A's stadium.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Do you'll give.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
An I pass on reading this article.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
No Yankees owner firm in support of struggling Volpe.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Do you'll give a I will be struggling to read
this article.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
No Rangers hiring ex Capital's head coach Laviolette.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Do you give a.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I'm going to leave violet This article unclicked.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
No Najee Harris backs Ourb's calls out longevity narrative.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Do you give a fun?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
This narrative has no longevity, only short jevity.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
No Ambappe hits out at France over Messi treatment.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Do you'll give a hmm? I'm going to m skipe
this article.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
No Tiafo Mussetti to face off in stute Gard quarters.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Do you'll give a hmm?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You know, given the recent success of Francis Tiafo, all
eyes will be on this match. Following the recent retirement
of Serena Williams, the US Tennisse sees and die in
need of a new face. While Tiafo does only have
a fifty one career win percentage, he is twenty three
and nine this year and picked up his first non
(09:19):
hard court title when taking the US Men's Clay Court Championships.
So I'm interested to see if he can continue that
momentum against Mussetti, a very formidable sixth seed. So yes,
I do give a wow.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Okay, then yeah that concludes us.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
There you go, do you'll give a give?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
And uh, well, just in time, donty, because I see
our guest coming on the line, So let's bring him
on the Fusco Satellite Networks Satellite All right, I guess
today hosts his own show Feels with Jason Whitlock on
Blaze Media to be on ESPN, FS one and a
bunch of other networks that quote unquote parted ways with him,
(10:05):
you know who knows what happened, but that does make
himself an expert on the topic we're about to discuss,
so let's bring him in.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Jason Whitlock, welcome back, come back to this show.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Yeah on the cry On put expert in parting ways?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Jason with about expert.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Well, first of all, it's a it's a Chiron, so
congratulations on knowing this business. But Cryon does seem to
fit your style of media, so maybe it wasn't a
misspeaker anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
All right, let's just move on. You know, rough start
there for you, Jason, but we'll let you bring it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Okay, you can still make up ground here.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You only have twenty thirty years in TV. Maybe you
need one more. All right, let's start with the Skip
and Shannon breakup, right. You know, it sounds like they
really did not like each other at the end. There
you we all know you have worked on many debate
shows where you know, people started at the end to
let's say, take umbradge with you, you know, co host directors, producers,
network heads, wardrobe people and means, yeah, but now we
(11:00):
want to know whose side of you taking care Skip
of Shannon's.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
That's a tough tough because I think they both have,
you know, compelling arguments they both have aside to their story.
I didn't like the way Shannon handled the Damar Hamblin
deal and threw Skip Bayless under the bus.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I didn't like that at all.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
I have to admit Shannon did become the driving force
on that show. He was the star of that show,
and I have to admit that. But did Shannon treat
Skip properly in my view? In my view the Damar
Hamblin situation, throwing him under a bus, I didn't like
(11:48):
that at all, and I understand why that doom the
relationship from Skip's point of view, Uh, you know, Skip's controlling,
uh treated you know, I think, in Shannon's mind, treated
Shannon as inferior and a stepchild for seven straight years
and probably should have given up some ground and made
(12:12):
it more of a fifty to fifty relationship in terms
of topics on the show and things like that.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
I think Shannon had earned that. You know, he was
the star of that show.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That is the longest we've ever let anyone talk on
the show. So congratulations to.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
You, because I admittedly took a nap during that answer.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Oh oh sorry, but okay, anyway, you know he's onto something, right.
We got a problem with these athletes on TV.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You know exactly what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, these Hall of Fame athletes, they think they know
more than journalists.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Because yeah, they've been in the locker rooms and on
the field.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So what that doesn't that doesn't mean they know more
than journalists exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So isn't Shannon from a journalistic point of view, actually
inferior to Skip?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
It?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
What about journalists from a journalation's point of view? No
question about it.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Look, I thought it was a terrible look the way
Shannon turned into a groupie for Lebron James.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Shannon's a Hall.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Of Fame NFL player, and he went on TV for
five six straight years pretending to be a Lebron James groupie.
I thought that was beneath Shannon, and it certainly isn't
journalistically sound. And so yeah, skip the superior journalist, but Shannon,
the superior personality.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
That is so well said.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You know, this is again agreement.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Forget the debate, agreement, This embrace debate is stupid. That's
why we're saying, erase debate. This is what should be two,
you know, three people getting together to agree on Yes.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
No more embrace debate. That's over.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Let me say this, didn't you I thought it was
hilarious when Shannon grabbed a Kleenex on his last day
and I thought he was wiping away tears.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Skip, when you lay your head down tonight, I just
want you to see one thing. Give everything I had.
I give you everything. That was comical to me.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
It was like, hold on, man, y'all weren't a war,
y'all weren't playing football or basketball games.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
But I give you everything. Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Honestly, I'm kind of moved by this recreation so on
very emotions, sand and Sharp was faking it?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Yeah, those two you can't be liking tweets calling Skip
a piece of doodoo and then the next day beyond
air about I love you Skip, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Wow, send this to the sports on me.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
That's what he was doing exactly, and it was a
performance where Skip is a bit more authentic.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
You know, Tony, I do agree Skip Bayless.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
When I think of authenticity in this business, I think
of Skip Bayless, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
And I also think of you, Jason. And you don't
want to know why, because.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Even when you have takes that are terrible, you stick
by them. Ye. I started an article you posted today.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Here was the title of the article.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm gonna read this to you, Nicola Djokitch's indifference to
NBA greatness speaks to the pitfall of globalism.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
So that thanks the question.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
When you wrote that article, were you trying to get
as few people to read it as humanly possible?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
No? I was not.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
I was trying to use sports to make a bigger
point about society at large. That's what I do all
the time, Guys.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Sounds fascinating. But all right, I keep going, yeah, go ahead,
I want to hear this. Take it.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
So, I was connecting it to the larger thing that's
going on at large.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
When you start bringing in foreign talent and.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Different cultures to America, you start losing the identity of
your institutions like the NBA or whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
You know, I got giving me. You wrote this whole article.
I got two words to refute it.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Give it to him, Tony.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Joel Embiid, There you go.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Joel Embiid comes over to this country and immediately wins
a title. And of course we're talking about the scoring title. Yes,
more intensive than an NBA title. You gotta beat five
hundred players.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
You can rely on your.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Team, you can't have your teammates do it for you.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Now, what do you say, Joel Embiid proves you're totally wrong?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Did you listen to the Doc Rivers interview with Bill Simmons.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Boy, stop listening to Doc Rivers on not in the
middle of Game seven.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Just like the rest of the Sixers.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Those guys are hard to coach.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Man, Joel Embid, you know, good player, but I don't
think he takes the game seriously enough.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Uh, scoring title, thirty three points a game.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, what's your scoring average? From what I heard of
going on in Los Angeles?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
It's zero?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, zero in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, we heard your Saturday nights are pretty empty there,
whitlock yep in Nashville too.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
That's accurate.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
See, that's see, that's called journalism. That's how you do
it right there, how you do a journalism learn wit Locksley.
We did the backstory.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I am now on the subject.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Of journal journalism. You're gonna you're gonna love this. In fact,
you're gonna kick yourself for not realize watch this. You know,
you know you're you like a conspiracy, right you do.
But you're kind of you kind of whiffed on this one.
You know, if you're in the past week, we've seen
two players, two athletes from the same random country win
major championships. You got Novak Djokovic, a Serbian, He goes
(17:32):
and wins the French Open. Then you got another Serbian,
Nicola Djokick, he wins the NBA Finals. It makes no
sense how this random country is producing all these dominant
athletes unless you look at one thing. Jason Chernobyl nuclear
accident forty years ago, and then of a sudden, now
you've got genetic mutations now appearing in the population. Over there,
(17:54):
you got a seven footer who can shoot three points
like a small person. Makes no sense unless you think
about it, your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I'm gonna have to give this some thought.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
This some thought, man, This this is like, uh well,
the first time I ever saw a loose change about
nine to eleven.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
It blew my mind.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
See, he's jealoustony, he's jealous. So now he's jealous.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Maybe the nuclear thing has, you know, empowered these guys
and made them special athletes.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
I'm gonna have to give this some thought.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I just come in and admit it's a folly Tony.
That is the finest piece of journalism I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I bowed nothing close to it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
No, I'm not going to say that.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
See I know it, I know it.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Let me just tell yourself and Jason, you got your
egos too big, But you know it's all so big.
It's the door and I'm gonna throw you right out
of it right now because you're up this show show.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
I just got done exercising. I need to go eat.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I'm exercising my right.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, wait, exercise in your off the show from possessing
the show.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
See ya, you know what this means?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Oh, get out of here, Jay, Hang up the phone.
Number one.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Number one is what that means?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Off the line, Jay, hang up the phone.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
They have it people.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
That's officially the nineteenth show that Jason Whitlock has been
thrown off of.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
YEP, at some point we got to witlock him out
of the show. He can't come on anymore.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
They're well said, Tony.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Know that a great way to turn around, because it's
otherwise a terrific show.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
As always.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Of course, we want to thank you good friends, our
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Speaker 3 (19:40):
If it isn't someone I want to take out Back and.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
One, Oh produce it, Jay, What do you want?
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Corrections?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
What?
Speaker 4 (19:48):
What?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Hurry up?
Speaker 6 (19:49):
You said the eighty six Celtics were better than this
year's Nuggets because they had more Hall of Famers.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, bro, yeah totally.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
But you do realize all those Celtics players weren't Hall
of famers when they were playing, so that argument is
just plain idiotic.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Oh yeah, well, I'd like to see you on a
plane that crashes.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, you're going to be like most play is in
the Hall of Fame. Dead Yeah done, that's it. No more,
We're done.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
No, you said Serbian athletes are so dominant because of
the nuclear effects of Chernobyl.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, bro, crazy, upsetting, but true.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Yeah, if that even was true. Nuclear radiation doesn't make
it stronger. You only see that happen in comic books,
not in real life.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Oh yeah, well you know what else you only see
in comic books nerds like you.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, and you know what's also not in real life?
Your girlfriend. Yeah, he's done. Let's get out of it here,
we're done.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
By the way, what you do realize why there's no
such country called Serbia thirty years ago?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
It's mysterious, bro, very mysterious.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Serbia was part of Yugoslavia, then it declared independence in
two thousand and six. But I shouldn't be surprised if
you don't know that though.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Oh yeah, well, speaking of surprises, wait until you start
your car tonight.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, forget Yugo Slavia, it's gonna be you go kabu
me ya. You're done.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Great, he's done. He's so he sid he's terrified. Oh
but hey, here's something not to be terrified of. What
it's got Some big nose across my desk, hed, what
do we got next week? Booked on the show super
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Speaker 2 (22:08):
You, Bully, another floorless show.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
There you go. We'll see people next week.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
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