November 22, 2023 • 54 mins
EP #11: On the latest Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast, Cam takes us inside the deep-seated rivalry between the Saints and the Falcons ahead of their NFC South clash Sunday (1:41). He also shares his angst at Kareem Jackson’s second suspension this season, and he explains why Tom Brady is right about the state of the current NFL. Then, his former teammate Manti Te’o joins the show. Manti shares how influential Cam was when Manti joined the Saints, and the invite that led to a life-altering invite Jay-Z concert experience. Manti also discusses how impactful his time was at the University of Notre Dame, and how his catfish situation contributed to his struggles in the NFL. Manti shares how he has devoted his life to his family, and how he’s finding purpose in his business ventures.
1:41 - Cam on Saints-Falcons rivalry week
6:18 - Cam reacts to Denver Broncos safety Kareem Jackson’s 2nd suspension this season for an illegal hit
7:51 - Cam reacts to Tom Brady’s comments about “mediocrity” in today’s NFL
12:34 - Start of Manti Te’o interview
13:10 - Cm gives Manti his flowers for his playing career at Notre Dame
14:41 - Cam on playing last season in the second coldest game ever in Cleveland
16:14 - Manti on his time with the Saints being the most fun he had during his NFL career
18:45 - Manti on his first training camp with the Saints and joint practices with his former team the Chargers
21:46 - Manti on his legacy at Notre Dame
25:22 - Manit on his induction into the Polynesian Football Hall of Fame
28:23 - Manti on how a Jay-z concert changed his life
30:42 - Manti on how his catfish situation and his Netflix documentary
36:02 - Manti on his mental health journey
40:07 - Cam and Manti share their perspectives on life
43:33 - Manti on fatherhood
44:46 - Manti on reclaiming his fitness
45:29 - Manti on his current business ventures
52:56 - end of Manti Te’o interview
53:22 - Cam on his top 3 Thanksgiving dishes
53:49 - Cam on his God Iz Love Foundation turkey giveaway event
56:41 - End of show
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Off the bye week heading into Turkey Thanksgiving Week aka
Rivals Rivalry Week versus the Falcons. Thank you for tuning
in to Off the Edge with me, your host, Cam Jordan.
I'm super excited. We're not only going to talk about
the feal Cons, the Falcons, the you know, the trash cans,
(00:25):
I mean the Falcons, right Saints Rivalry Week. It's New
Orleans versus Atlanta. You know, Louisiana versus Georgia.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It is what it is.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I love this week. I didn't know about this rivalry
till you got here, and it's such a great rivalry.
The city feels it every person you talk to Today.
I was out there giving out turkeys, giving out turkeys
to you know, the community and people stopping and they
say thanks for turkeys.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Without was like, hey, it's dirty birdy week. You know
what we need? We need a fried Falcon.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And I said, yeah, we're gonna work on pushing that
one out there. But beyond that, you know, we're gonna
talk about hits like Kareem Jackson and this this double
suspension and one season, the latest suspension coming up from
from a hit on a quarterback. I'm not saying the
quarterbacks are getting softer, the league is getting softer. But
rules need to be changed, you know, I find I'm sure,
(01:16):
but come and suspend them a little tough. And of
course we're gonna talk about you know who we're bringing
up next on this episode. I got my dog, you know,
for former player uh drafted to the Chargers when they
were back in San Diego, came to the New Orleans Saints,
and then beyond that, just a phenomenal god fearing Christian man,
my dog, my oos Mantaiteo. So tune in taping off
(01:39):
the edge of Me, Cam Jordan. So let's obviously get
to what I want to talk about, right Thanksgiving Week.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Let's talk about It's Rapper week versus the Falcons, Saints
versus Falcons rivalry. I'm not sure what the score is
for for the you know, the historical purposes. As far
as I know, I think I am thirteen years in.
This will be the twenty fifth time I played the Falcons.
I believe I'm sixteen and eight against the Falcons. I
(02:10):
don't know if you know that that's two to one.
That means I'm sixty six percent chance of winning. I
like them odds. I love them odds. For the Saints,
they've got Desmond Ritter, you know, Drake Kyle, Drake Lennon,
Kyle Pitts. Uh. You know they just drafted another top
ten guy, another you know, a kid out of Arizona.
So I hate to have to deal it to him
(02:30):
because we're from Arizona. But one have to try and
lock him all the way down. B Jon Robinson, Dude
is dude is showing some talent as a rookie coming
out of University of Texas.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It's a whole nother thing. But this rivalry. Who I said,
I'm giving out, I'm giving.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Out turkey said, you know this week I had a
God's Love Foundation, me partner up with Giving Hope Nola.
This wonderful Giving Hope Noda closet they give out to
the community down in New Orleans East. Uh So I'm
out here giving out hundreds of turkeys, right and each
car I'll come to who that We love you Saints.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Nation's the best nation. Kim. You've been here so long.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You know whatever it is. You know what I need?
Oh you need a turkey. Let me get you some
fixes you. Let me get you no height beyond the turkey,
Thank you for the turkey. I need a fried falcon.
I need a dirty bird leg I need.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I need to go ahead. Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Need to go down, baby, baby girl, Matt Ryan, don't
don't play for the for the Falcons no more. I
need that quarterback go down. Who's that quarterback, Taylor Hanneke, No, ma'am.
I believe it's Desmond Ridder. Yeah, Riddler, Riddler. Riddler needs
to go down. Okay, all right, we're gonna have to,
you know, be on a piece of q's dot our
i's cross our t's to get this job done.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Because what we have been doing is letting quarterbacks escape
on us for some reason. And that's on the D line.
So that starts right here with me.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You know what we have to do is lock them
down because this rivalry means more than just you know,
more than just a game.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
This this is.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
The epitome of black and gold versus black and red.
This is the epitome of the cities don't really mess
with each other because of this game. You know, like
guys go out their way to hate on Atlanta, Atlanta
goes out their way to hate on Norman Saints. You know,
I might as well call them diet Saints at this point.
They've got half our D line from last from previous years.
(04:25):
They've got David on your motto. They've got you know,
Albert Huggins. They had Jalen Dalton at one point. You know,
they took a linebacker, Kayen Ellis.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
They got the previous D line coach is now the
DC over there.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Sounds like the Falcons bought into the Saints way honestly,
But I mean, can you. I mean, there's just so
many points. There's been times where I've flown into the
Atlanta Airport I'm like, oh, you're a good player.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
But we don't like you. And I'm like, dang, I
love to do a step off the plane. I'm just
having a connection. I'm not here. Mm hmm, Cam huh, Well,
Matt Ryan gone, what you're gonna do? Now? Why are
you upset that you guy retired?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Me and him, you know, have such a special connection
where I've sacked him more times than anyone defender has
sacked the quarterback before, with the staggering number of twenty
three times. That's not on me, you know, that's all
your guys for not protecting them. But I just think
that when it comes down to it, you know, even
previous years where we've had a bad year, there's been
(05:32):
times where we washed Atlanta and the city is still good.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Like you walk into a place and they'll.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Be like, hey, we'll get him next year, but just
know we like them.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Two times we beat Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You know, I can remember two years ago, Matt Ryan's
last game we played against him, end of the season,
we beat we beat Matt Ryan, got to sack all him.
I'm like, he's jogging off. I jogged behind him, just like,
hey man, you know, just talking to him. Always been
a good guy, appreciated for all the sacks, you know,
added to the career tally, but you know, just didn't
(06:07):
realize that was gonna be Matt Ryan's last game. But
it was like at the end of that we needed
that win the most. They always It happened at the
end of the season too, so it means that much more.
I mean, honestly, I can't I can't wait for this weekend.
So let's move on, you know, and get to Kareem
Jackson or a second suspension of the season. About the
(06:28):
hit off the hit that he put on Josh Dobbs
for the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
It gets frustrating at times when.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You see a guy like Kareem Jackson get suspended for
the second time in one season. Find him, Okay, the
flag was not the flag was not thrown, It did
not peede on the what the Broncos defense was trying
to do to the Minnesota Vikings offense. And at that point,
Josh Dobbs had declared sort of as a running back,
and in that there was a whole bunch of bodies around.
So Kareem comes flying in being a relentless pursuit defender.
(06:57):
It's sure his head placement might not have been in
the right place, whatever that is, So find him and
move on. Tell them to hey, keep your head up
or else we're gonna keep going taking your money. But
to suspend him a really good player for the defense
of the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Come on, man, that's depending on the game. We're just
trying to have a good game. We're just trying to
be the best players that we can be.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
You know, we take that out of it, and now
you're telling coaches like you know, coaches telling defenders, Hey,
you know the vice tackles or keep your head out
of it or whatever this is.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Coaches are like, hey, how do I coach this where
it used to be?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You know, like, let's just focus on as an offensive player,
Like hey, you know and if maybe in high school, college,
whatever it was, maybe you focus on how office player
should receive those hits.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Tom Brady started talking about, you know, not not placing
a ball in the middle from you know, having guys
like ray Lewis, Ronnie Lotts, you know, all these these
Hall of Fame players, because you're like, yo, if you
throw this bottle middle, you place it in the middle,
You're really good. Player is gonna go really fast.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I think I look at a lot of players like
ray Lewis and Rodney Harrison and Ronnie Lott and guys
that impacted the game in a certain way, and every.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Hit they would have made would have been a penalty.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Your coach is complaining about their own player being tackling
and not necessarily, why don't they talk to their player
about how to protect themselves. We used to work on
the fundamental of those things all the time. Now they're
trying to be regulated all the time. Offensive players need
to protect them Sell, it's not up to the defensive player.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
To protect offensive player.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
A defensive player needs to protect them Sell, I didn't
throw the ball to certain areas because I was a
great Players are going to get knocked out.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
That's the reality.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I didn't throw it to the middle.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
When I played ray Lewis because you knock them out
of the game and I couldn't afford to lose a
good player.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Everybody's fighting for every yard. This is a game of inches,
right fourth to one third or whatever?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Game of inches? Do I have time to think about
my body.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Position where there's running back is lowering his body to
create contact.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The lack of consistency causes confusion, you know, it's just
what do you think about what this game is. I'm
running as fast as I can. They're running as fast
as as the office is running as fast as they can.
They're trying to create big plays. I'm trying to create
a turnover or force a turnover. I don't have time
to be like, oh, did I go across the bout?
Did I keep my chin up while I was trying
(09:15):
to place my chest within his chest also higher lower
than his chin, and my helmet did not slide up
and tag him. I don't have time for that. I'm
moving as fast as I can. When you think about
eleven defenders running to the ball, relentless pursuit, relentless pursuit
doesn't equal Hey, let me size up and make sure
that the offensive player is okay. And I asked him
(09:37):
as he's falling, are you going to be all right
while I try to adjucate the.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Ball from his I don't have time for that. It's
just ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I'm trying to hit this man, and I'm going in
with ill intentions, with the smile.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
On my face. Like to play defense.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
You have to be a little like, you know, loose
in the head. You've got a couple of screws, just
look slightly unhands. You have to embrace that, you know,
and these flags happening hurting the team because I'm trying
to play my butt off. You have that that come on, man,
like you stop making stop making guys confused and or soft,
and let the guys be guys. Let the words be
(10:14):
worris and let it keep on rolling. We gotta keep
on doing this. I'm just saying, let us play ball.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
And when would come back from the break, My guy,
Man Taitel, go and join us on Off the Edge.
Super excited Bro that you're you're even tapping in.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Uh, it's my dog, you know, my my brother, my oose,
my man that walked over to the house and left
some food on while we was playing, you know, back
in the gap. Bro, when I tell you, I'm excited
to have you on the podcast, Bro, like.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Strictly because you know, one we were teammates with.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Two because you're You're an honest, positive force to be
reckon with, Bro, and like you, I feel like you
don't get enough flowers as it is, and you probably
I'm not sure. You know you out Utah. You rolled
down your window and it's probably snowing outside. You know,
I'm not meant for the snow. But oh, I say,
uh Man Taitel. You know, Bro, everything that you did
in college over at Notre Dame was spectaclar. You know
(11:13):
you played there. You were should have been, in my mind,
a Heisman Trophy winner. You had a Heisman push you
don't say a runner up if you will, but the
the things that you did in college were absolutely special.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know you look down and you were gonna have
accolades for days.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
You talk about the Maxwell Award, you know, the Walter
Camp Award, you talk about the Lot Award, the Chuck
I can never get that Linebacker Award, Merik Award. Bro,
Like what in college there was no no award untouched
that you didn't have. Bro, You're a unanimous All American,
like say you you should in my mind you should
have been a Heisman Trophy winner.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
But you know, it just is what it is.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
You get drafted in the second round to the San
Diego Chargers. Does that feel weird that you know it's
not seeing Ago no more? Are you d la Chargers?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I know I always rep San Diego's you know.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
You know, you know how it is.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
You know, even even when I was playing, you know,
with New Orleans, I was still living in San Diego.
I would send you the pictures of my tacos at oscars,
you know. And so you, you and the family are
supposed to come out many at times. And then we
moved and you refuse to come out here in the
cold snow. So we're gonna have to link up in
San Diego.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I'm gonna get out there.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Are you out outside of City Park where you at?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
We're in Lehigh, right between Propo and South Lake, and yeah,
we gotta take you on the slopes. I know, you know,
you know, you've got the elite level of athleticism. The
only de Lineman to know, the only de Linen that
I know leads the conditioning and the half gasser. So
you definitely could make it down the hills.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I look see that, but I'm not I'm not conditioned
for snow film. Bro.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
We played that one game in Cleveland and it changed
my Like it solidified my perspective on nobody should play
in colde games. But it also changed my life in
terms of I was like, I can't be in America anymore.
I left it and we lived in Spain this offseason
because of that Cleveland game. I said, I was like, Babe,
pack it up, take off. We're taking all four kids,
are your homeschooling, and we're leaving.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
See just a little a little cam slight flex right there.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
I decided I'm going to go to Spain. Pack your
stuff up.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
See a lot of us can't make those type of decisions, bro.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You know, so you packed up a mood of utah.
You were like, this breeze feels too good.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yo, okay, okay, But my decision was it was because
of living purposes. It was like, I don't have the
cam type of tax brackets, so we got to get
out of these high taxes and go to a lower
I I didn't just say let's go to Spain. You know, yeah,
(13:45):
we're not there yet.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
You didn't freeze like I felt it was.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It was negative twenty eight. It was the coldest game
in Saint's history, the second coldest game for Cleveland. And
I said, wait, the fact that it was the second
coldest game for Cleveland, I should not be here.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Well, you remember I went to college.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Oops. You know, yeah, the negative temperatures, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
It's ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, close that you chose. You're like,
ooh yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Anyways, so let's let's just say, you know, you got
drafted to the San Diego Chargers. We just moved past that,
you know, get us to the Saints. You know, you
come on to the team.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
What year was it, twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, twenty seventeen, Yeah, there was sevent.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Seventeen to twenty nineteen. Bro, you're on the Saints for
a few years.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Bro, you come in and you bring automatic juice like
I've never seen I've never seen somebody come in and
mold so well with the team, you know, Like it
was like you and just like coming off of a
fresh team whatever that was, you came on to the
team and everybody just fully embraced you and or you
embraced us.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Yeah, and bro, what was that like the.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
First day, the first day that you came in there,
I sat right next to you. I was like, all right, bro,
give me the real story.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And you know, honestly, like
how you said, I brought the juice, but honestly, the
team brought the juice back to me, you know what
I mean. So that was what was so beautiful about
being in New Orleans. It was it was the locker room.
It was the personal relationships that I had with you,
with Craig, with Alex you know.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
And THENDED came in the next year.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Detroit right now, Davis is that guy you know, Craig
Robinson used to bring that juice you and him.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Yeah, you know, and so it was it went, it
went both ways.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
You know. I'm forever grateful to all my brothers over
there at New Orleans for kind of helping me to
resurrect my career because I played some I played the
best ball that I.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Played in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
And I had everything to do with, you know, the
pat that I took personally to get back to where
I needed to get to. But the people that I
surrounded myself with, the people in that locker room, that
helped me to you know, once once you sat next
to me, we had that conversation. I remember, I was
the name of locker. We had that conversation. It was
like it was like, oh, let's go play ball, you
know what I mean. And that's that's where the first
(16:07):
time that I felt that people saw me as a teammate,
you know, and not just a news clipping, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
And my play was able to raise from there.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
And man, I had I had the most one playing
over there in New Orleans, and especially that we got
we got to go back to California during the preseason
and we played you know, we had a joint practice
against the Chargers and.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
You might as well like hit your hit your Hoker
film and like I was like, all right, this clearly
meant something to him.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, well, I think it was a It was a
benefit because then we got out of that humidity, you know.
And I remember man Sean was trying to make he
was trying to make a point, you know, that that year,
and I was just like, I remember thinking to myself.
I was like, so the year that I signed here,
you decided to bring the team back to New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
We had just done like three off seasons in Northern
Virginia with all those training camps in Northern Vidia where
it was like sixty five and Sonny seventy sunny, and
we had like three years of back to back, back
to back to back losing seasons of seven and nine,
seven and nine, seven and nine, and he was like,
you know, the older kid down was like, this is
the way you guys want to play. Tom Binson came down,
was like this is the way you got. You'll never
(17:19):
go back to Virginia again. And Sean Paygne was like,
you heard what he said. Now let's double down.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
And I was like, Jesus that you came, remembro. He
came in and like we went days of straight hitting.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You know, we had to run off the practice field
because we were running out of time at practice in
that training camp.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
So by the time we hit Cali bro for that
joint practice. Everybody was like, of.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
This ith this all you guys do you only have
thirty plays?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Come on? No?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
I remember I remember who was it.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
He came off the edge and just thumped the running
back and I remember thinking, like Mark, it was Marcus, remember,
And there was like a whole the ruckus that broke out,
But I don't know they were.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
They were upset, like Marcus, that comes off Hill's just
running back and judgers are like, this is not how.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
We practice, like this how we practiced.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So no idea, but it was that.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I have that level of confidence that because of what
we went through, like you stand no chance, you know
what I mean? And that's what I felt like. It
helped us to get into that mentality of man, like
there's no way that you guys went through what we
went through, like having thirty forty plus people. I remember
after practice, like forty of us in there with ivs
(18:36):
just it looked like a scene from a movie.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
And I just walked by.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I walked by everybody like I'm I'm you know, I
don't cramp up, bro, So I just walked by everybody.
I'm like weakness, Yeah, you know, I was like, look
at you guys, you and your ivs.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Bro, You're like, you're you're taking two bags? My guy?
What was that was the name Devaux whatever?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Devro's got like three bags in Oh, Bro, there's there's
guys hurting everywhere.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I'm just like weakness do it.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
It went from It went from a fashion statement.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You know, like everybody coming in with advisors on by
day two, the advisors are.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Off sleeves everywhere.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
It's just trying to survive. You know.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
You took out two pairs of cleats, three pairs of socks,
like at the at the second like special teams period,
everybody was switching out their socks, switching out their cleats,
like switching out gloves.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
You know, it was to switch out those fleets.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Bro. Like a training a training camp in New Orleans
when it's it's like ninety eight degrees one hundred percent humidity,
You're you're practicing for two and a half hours, Bro,
an hour in your shoes like you're stepping in it
feels like you got to puddle your shoes. You bring
two or three pairs of cleades to practice just so
like conditioningwise, you're not moving underwater.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
But Bro, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
But I really want to start off with, first of all,
congratulations on you know, all your success, bro, starting with
Notre Dame of course, Polynesian Hall of Fame. You know,
it's like even your high school isn't the forest butner
from your high school too in Hawaii? Like you know,
I can't I'm not even going to attempt.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
To say your high school prep school. There you go,
you got it there in there, bro, But like.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I just want to how does it feel, bro, to
to know that you become an all time great at
Notre Dame?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Like everything that you did, Bro?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You know, you throw the stats out there and there's
a reason why you know, four years, four hundred and
thirty seven tackles, you know, ranked third all time in
the in history there, Like, how does it feel to
know you put such a phenomenal college screen together to
even have a chance to go to the league?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Like that's always been a dream of mine?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
So for you, well, I think it goes back to
the saying like you always want to leave the place
better than when you found it, you know, and for
me to be able to do that in my way
and the fashion that I did it, obviously Notre Dame
is is one of the most stored football programs in
the country, and I just literally went in there to
you know, continue the dominance that my father Thomas, since
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I was little, to you know, really stick to my
routines and you know, hopefully the result would be what
I wanted it to be. I mean, the result was
always success just based off of the work ethic. And
so for me to do that and to have an
impact on people off of the field was exactly what
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I would want my career to be like. While I
was at Notre Dame, and it's a special place and
it's it's nice now because we literally just got back
from South Bend this past weekend. I took my wife
and my babies out there, and you know what was
what's nice is my wife didn't know the Notre Dame me.
You know, she knew the NFL ME, and you know,
unfortunately the NFL ME didn't it didn't reach the heights
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of the Notre Dame ME. And so when we go
back to South Bench, she gets to see like the plaques,
the murals that all of the trophies and but.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
College not many people reached that level of success, not
like there's there's only a few cats, you know, like
not too many of you.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You heard what I said, third third in all times
the tackles.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Man like, yeah, yeah, it was, it was. It was
up there. It was like that that was what we
like to see as a summit, you know what I
mean when people when people talk about reaching the summit,
Like in my life for that time, like that was
the summit of college football. You know what I was
able to achieve and attain on a personal level and
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on a team level, you know, to to make it
to the national championship. You know. Obviously we got whooped
up on by by Alabama, you know, and you know, I.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Had, I had, I had.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I had a bad taste of Alabama for a long time.
And then I met Duce Stews and and you know,
just to know Mark and I'm like jeez, and then
you know, too went there and so it was.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
One of those things.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It was honestly to have my family experience it with me,
to people to know my name, my last name, and
to recognize my family in public, like that's.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
For for a kid growing up in a small town
in Hawai.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
That was everything that I wanted it to be to
have that type impact.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, I still don't understand this whole.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Like I was, I'm from Hawaii and then I lived
in San Diego and then I moved to Utah. I'm like,
I'm I'm gonna talk about this forever, like nothing but
nothing but breeze and views of ocean, and like now.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
You're like, yeah else, yeah, yeah, Well when the milk
goes from twin dollars a gallon and hooyd and you
come on bear as five dollars, You're like, yeah, you know, the.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
The temperature I could deal with, you know what I mean,
My duck is sub stretched a lot farther.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So let's talk about the Polynesian Hall of Fame, bro,
because like now there's there's you're part of the living legends,
that's that's in there now. Troy Palmalu would probably be
the first name that comes to my mind, and now
the second name is gonna be Man, I tell you thanks,
like you know, like I'm just saying, like when you're
when you're when you're in that same breath, Polynesia Hall
of Fame, Like I said, I'm a joke, but like,
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well the rock's in there too, But.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
But in terms of football.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, Troy Palus you him, you know you're probably up
next is probably Marcus Mariota, like you know.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, probably, you know, there's it's gonna be heavy company.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
DFO is definitely going to be in there, Toy is
definitely gonna be in there. Talanoa is definitely gonna be
in there. You know, obviously there's still careers are still going,
but to be in the Polynesian Hall of Fame, it's
a big deal because.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Now life comes full circle.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
You know, Like when I was a little kid, Troy
was my example of oh I could do it, you
know what I mean, Like to see Troy play at
play at USC and for him to be drafted to
the Stealers and watch his career you know, go as
it went and you know.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Hall of Famer, you know, Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
For me growing up as a little kid, you know,
I look up to those type of individuals, you know
what I mean, Like, man, if Troy can do it,
I can do it. You know, there's a way to
do it because he's he's kind of blazed that path
for me now to be in that position and understanding that,
you know, there's there's kids back at home. There's kids
around the world that's looking up to me and say, hey, man,
I did it, I could do it.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
And I think, you know, for for like.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
To come full circle that way just goes to show
that all the hard work and the sacrifices that myself
and my family you know, put in, you know, it
all paid off and hopefully, you know, we'll be able
to push the script with allowing younger the younger generations
to say, hey, we can do what he did and more.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
You know what I mean, Let's.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Let's take it higher, let's take it further, and then
hopefully the next generation comes around and pushes that even further.
And that's kind of what that Polynesian Hall of Fame
means for me. It's it's it's a it's a celebration
that all the hard work was was was worth it.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
But at the same time, it's just another.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Flag up there to tell those kids that's behind me
to say.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Hey, bro, like you could do the same thing. They'll
take it further, you.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Big legacy, yeah, legacy.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, yeah, you know, and that's what it's all about,
you know, so you know we all can really like,
you know, with that is like when we die, like obviously,
the only thing that stays here is our names and
the stories that people tell about us, and you know,
their interactions with us, you know what I mean, And
so I always wanted those interactions and those stories to
be positive, you know, to be like, man, my life's
better because I met mantime, my life's better because I met.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Camp and I and you know, you know how I
feel about you.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
You know, you know that the impact that you've had
on me and my family, and you know, when a
documentary came out, like you was one of the first
people that I text, you know, just say hey Oosh,
Like I wouldn't be where I'm at if it wasn't
for you personally, you know, like taking all of us
to the jay Z concert, like you have no idea.
So I like how much that concert changed my life,
(26:44):
Like where I was at that time, and you invited
me just being around the fellas, I was like, okay, cool,
like getting to know my teammates. But then the spiritual
journey that that that concert had on me, because obviously
jay Z was going through his stuff with Beyonce and
he at a lot of people like saying this about him,
and I remember he started off the whole thing with
his dialogue and the narrative and he went through to
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kill jay Z stuff, and I remember like just thinking
about it and listening to him, and I'm like, man,
those are some of the things that go on in
my head, you know what I mean. And then when
he ended it with saying, you can't heal what you
don't reveal, like, bro, that was just it was mind
blowing to me. And I'm like, bro, like that's what
I got to do.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
And so from that.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Moment on, it was like my my whole life kind
of took a one eighty of Man, I'm looking about
I'm looking at this thing to hold the wrong way,
you know what I mean. And it had everything to
do with that concert. And then you look at how
I played ball that year and look at you know,
and everybody would come to me, it's like, man, that's
a notre dame. Man tis playing. I was like, well,
in order for me to get here, there are events
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that needed to take place, you know what I mean,
in order for me to get to display the space
mentally and emotionally. And that concert that you took me
to had it was a big, big part of that healing,
and so like again, it was like I never forget
the people that was there for me, and you was
obviously one of those one of those people, and that's
why I had to I had to pay my respects
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to you and you as.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
The you know, like like I said, one of.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
The few people that I text.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Bro, you you hit me and I didn't even know
the impact, you know, Like I'm like, yeah, bro, Like
you know, like if I'm in if I'm in a
switeen d line.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
And the suitet a, you know, the defense is always welcome.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
We even open up to the office sometimes, you know,
Like I'm all about that defense camaraderie because I think
that makes the team better when you know what your
brothers are going through, you know, like we bleed together.
Why would I not you know, why would I want
not want to know more about you as a person.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
So it's always it's always that idea of building family,
but just that how did you even navigate?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Like bro, Like why do those words hit you so hard.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
That when you when you when that documentary came out
earlier this year, Like how did you navigate that emotional
aspect of sort of having to relive through everything, right.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, yeah, well, you know it goes back to that
saying that jay Z said he can't heal what you
don't reveal, you know, and there's a lot of healing
that occurs when you can verbalize things, you know what
I mean. I didn't realize how heavily I was. I was.
I was holding everything in and you can't heal it
when the poison is inside of you. You know, you
have to bring that poison out. And the amount of
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healing that I did all the way up to that
point was enough for me to be comfortable in certain
certain circles. You know. There there was a time where
I wasn't comfortable in public, Like I literally would just
go to work, do what I had to do, come
home and just be a hermit, like I didn't want
to be around anybody.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Because like Locid, I know in New Orleans, big people person,
big heart person.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
But what you need, I'm here for you. I got
you some food at your front door. I knocked on
your door.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Like you Yeah, And that's that's the that's the evolution
of it all. You know what I mean, like that
was who I am at my core. I'm a guy
who I love people, I love, you know, having great
experiences with my friends, creating memories with my friends. You
know that the hermit, that's not me, you know. But
in order for me to get from the hermit to
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the guy who was just you know, love was excitement,
was just enjoying the process and being grateful for the day.
Like there was a transition and and and a journey
that I had to go on, and a lot of
it had to be done by myself, but there are
key moments where I needed somebody to be there with me,
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you know what I mean. And so like you're one
of those guys. Craig was one of those guys. Alex
was one of those guys that I really leaned heavily on.
And you said something.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
That that that was so really you said you, I
want to know I had all of these experiences, You
would have all of these experiences with the team the
defense to.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Know what they're going through, right.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I think what took it a step further was you
don't even you didn't even know the impact that you
were making. You didn't even know what your teamates are
going through but because you had him around, you were
doing healing for him that you didn't.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Even know you were doing.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
You know what I mean. That's the quality of a
great leader, you know what I mean, just somebody that
understands that what happens on the football field, it's just
a result of all the things that we've done together
at dinners, you know what I mean, all the things
that we've done on the on the practice field. Man,
you guys would play. You would play Smash Bros. Like
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for hours. Bro, Like I remember, like your nigga gonna
call and I'm your neighbor, So yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Got can't can't. I can't go home before you broke
up with the boys, like after practice, I need I
need that.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, she's gonna see my truck in the driveway and
she'd be like cavade home yet like something. He still
plays Smash Bros.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Yeah, So it was, it was. It was a special transition.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
It was a special journey, and it was a journey
that you know, made me into who I am mos
to to really appreciate genuine relationships, appreciate good people and bro.
Like again, our locker room was special, bro, you know,
and that's what I always tell people, like the locker
room in New Orleans is what made the success of
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our team, you know, like how close we were and
so and now I always watch my boys, always watch
the guys on Sundays, and I'm like, they gotta have
fun again, you know what I mean. You have fun, celebrate,
you know what I mean, just bring that energy. So
we were like, we was like, I don't care what
nobody says. We was the one who started that turn.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Off for something. I think.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I think that's just that's that's already known, Like the
same started that. I don't know how you start, but
like that happened from from us. Boy, you know, Craig Roberson,
we out there with the big bucket of flowers, like Yeahewers.
You know, we get an interception and like running in
and everybody rallied behind it.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
And that for sure is the same thing. They still
do it as long as it's to a close end zone.
I'm with the job. Like if you have the thirty
and we go to the you know, we go to
the end zone. Bat if we had.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
The thirty and you turn around and you jogged seventy
no no, none, no no, SI you know.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
What that reminds me of.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Remember when we had that goal line stand against Atlanta
and I recover that fumble. I remember we're on the
goal line twenty seventeen. That happened that twenty seventeen. That
was a second. That was the second Atlanta game. Remember
I picked the ball off and I started to run.
I ran to the opposite side of the field. I
don't remember as I'm running. I remember watching the clip
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and your face was like, ooh, so would love I'm
with you, dog, But right there we still drop. Yeah,
I said, yeah, that probably was a bad, bad decision
for me to run to the opposite.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
You want to go?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
You want to go ninety seven yards?
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Yeah, we're just in the conditioning testing that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
This thing you talk about emotional intelligence, you talk about
just the quality of of knowing who you are.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
You found that over the years, But like, how did
how did that come about? Or what is it now
that you have a unique perspective on what it is
to be because you've lived at the highest peak of
what an athlete is when everybody's looking up at you.
You're still balling everything about it too. You've had setbacks whatever,
you know, the whole the whole cat fit situation to
coming back and we're getting drafted second round too, playing
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your type of your brand of football here with it
or here previously with the with the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Like what did that all take it to you? And
how do you look at the status of mental health now?
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Well, mental health to me, right is when you're mentally healthy.
It's I like to think that there's not a lot
of voices in your head. You know, those that are
that are mentally unhealthy, it's because they have so many
voices in their head. They're kind of they kind of
get lost, they get lost in the sauce of like
man like whether it's they're they're they're at a certain
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peak right and they think that there's something that they're
not or they're at a valley and there's so many
critics in their head that they can't just they can't
seem to shake it. And so I've been at both
right right now, the journey has allowed me to identify
all those voices, identify the sources of those voices, and
get them out. But now that the only voice that
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I hear is mine, And when.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
My voices like social media, your girl your family. You
know what. Oh, I got to take care of my parents.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Oh, like I need to be I need to be
this pinnacle of a player for me to be accepted.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You know, there's there's all types of pressures that are
equal voices in the head.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
You said, you said voice. It made me think about
the first time we ever had a conversation. I was like,
all right, before you before you be a mic and
call these plays. Girlfriend was imagination or was she like that?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
That's the story. So yeah, the voices like that's surrounding you.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, well they're they're pressures and and they're also they're
the critics, and they're also the fans, you know what
I mean, Because like when you're living on either extreme, Yeah,
whether they're dragging you or whether you have just like
ten sacks one game and they're like telling you you're
the greatest thing ever. Yeah, Like both of both extremes
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are dangerous, you know what I mean, especially if it's
not the beliefs that you have in your head, like
the fact that I know who I am to a
point where there's nothing that the praise or the criticism
can sway me. Yeah, that is why I mean, like
mental health and you being so sure of what your
identity is, who you are as a person, that you're
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not swayed either way.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Like that's you.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Know where I feel I got to that I that
I know who I am. There's nothing that you could
tell me that that's going to sway that, because I
was swayed a lot, and I kept swaying swinging. Eventually
I felt face flat, you know, and so I had
to literally pick myself back up and figure out, you know,
from score one, and build myself up from score one
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from Birke one.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
And again I had.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
To do a lot of it by myself, but there
were people that helped me to to to to to
build that, you know, whether it be my family, my parents,
my siblings, my friends like yourself, my wife, you know,
my kids now you know. So it's a journey that
everybody must take. It's a journey that you know, I
hope that it doesn't take people as long as.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
It took me.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
But the journey is is what you know creates and
it modes, and you know, you'll be happy with the
final product. And and I'm definitely happy with with you know,
who I came up to be as a man. You know,
so for anybody that's going through mental health issues, in
order for you to be the best version of yourself,
you need to be internally the best version of you
because what happens outside is just a reflection of what's
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going on inside, you know. And so that's that's kind
of my piece on that.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying, bro, Like.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
You never know, you never know, like even talking about it, bro,
who you're affecting or you know, it feels like it's
a sermon at times, bro, Like that's just a message
somebody may need to hear, you know, in this in
this day and age, well, you know, we're starting to
unders understand this EQ or this even like I call
twenty like I call twenty twenty on like the error
to be soft, right, and I sort of chuckle about it.
(38:26):
But it's literally like, you know, everybody's worried about other
people's opinions. Everybody's worried about everybody's you know, how I
affected the next person over or how are they affected me?
Or social media does this and all in all these
other circumstances where it's like.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Bro, know who you are and stand on it, you.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Know, like like live live your truth, live your life,
and you know, be blessed. Like there's so many ways
that can go. Life can always be worse and life
can always be better.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
It's just like watching you after a game football film,
You're be like, Bro, I played terrible game. Film is
not going to be as good as you think it is,
and you're not going to be as bad as you
think it is.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Those days you're like, oh, I killed them.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I had four sacks that couldn't touch me, and you
walk on like, dang, I got locked up like three
or four times, bro, like or are close.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
It could have been a seven sack game and all
I left was with three or four.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
You know, like that's a great analogy. That is actually
a great analogy of of of of how life is right,
you know, and like I never thought of that analogy,
but now that you put it that way, that's actually
the perfect analogy for it. It's never as bad as
you think it is, and it's never as great as
you think it is, you know. So like again, to
stay grounded in it all, to be grateful for it all,
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because at the end of the day, like like life
happens for you, doesn't happen to you, you know, And
so you have the ability and the power to make
life what you need to make it. You know, you
could make it great. You could also make it a
living hell, you know what I mean. So you have
that power like people who let things happen to them
and say, oh, man, like I'm the victim, And I
was like, no, bro, you're the only You're only the
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victim of your decisions, you know, because no matter what
you do to me, I still have the ability to
filter it and perceive it the way that I need
to perceive it in order for me to progress. Like
I'm never gonna let anybody do anything to me, say
anything to me that's going to cripple me, and you know,
you know, stunt my growth as a person. And the
reason why I know that is because I used to
let that do it, do it, do it to me,
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you know what I mean? And so that's what you
know for me. Mental health, I think it's it's it's
something that's important. I think some people look at it
as a as a reason to to do the things
they do. No, that's not what mental health is, you
know what I mean. Mental health is you understanding who
you are the best version of yourself, the best form
of yourself, and you're doing all that you can to
get there. You know, it's not an excuse to do
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stupid things, you know what I mean. That's not what
it is. You know what I mean, Like I don't
like what people say. Oh no, no, no, bro, That's
not what this is. It's understanding where I'm at and
where I need to get to and the things that
I need to do in order to get there, you know.
And so that's that's what I that I think mental
health is. It's it's it's for me to be the
best version of me to do the most good. You
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know what, what can I what version of me brings
out the most good? What what what version of me
brings out the most production? That's that's what I need
to do. That's that's the person to bless me?
Speaker 2 (41:11):
How can I be a blessing to others?
Speaker 5 (41:12):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Brother, So I'm still breathing. I'm still standing you. I said,
you're a family man. Now that you know, I can't
say like football is over because I don't think football
ever leaves the blood. Now you've got a legacy if
you're own, bro, Like I said, Mary, my dog got
two kids.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Now you know what I'm saying, Jit with the anset,
You know what I'm saying, what what? What? What's it now?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Because there's no off season now, you know, like me
all season, I'm flitting. I'm like, man, what else can
I do?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
What's what's next for you?
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Bro?
Speaker 7 (41:39):
Like?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Now now you don't drop the documentary. You probably got
to exactly produce a credit out of there.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
You ep do things? Now? What what else is it
in Utah for you?
Speaker 5 (41:49):
You know?
Speaker 3 (41:49):
What's what was amazing was when when you know, every
parent will will understand this, when my kids came into
my life, especially when my son, when my daughter came,
like I.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
Went to the dad phase that dad bought. I gained
a whole bunch of weight, and you.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Know I didn't realize that, Yeah, my daughter's fault.
Speaker 5 (42:09):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
You know, my princess softened me up, you know. But
then when my son came and with both of them,
immediately life took a turn from you was I immediately
wanted everything great in this world for my kids. I
wanted everything that was great in this world I wanted
for them. But the person that the first thing that
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needed to happen was I needed to be great, you know,
I needed to be the greatest version of me because
my kids aren't gonna remember what I tell them, but
they're going to remember what they saw me do. They're
going to remember how they saw Daddy work, how he
saw how they saw me walk through this life.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
And so it was I was two ninety.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Five h Jenny first that day that.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
I was.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Yes, yeah. So my wife decided.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
She told me, she was like, hey, when I'm done
giving birth to this boy, I wanted to do a
fitness show. I was like, okay, cool, she did fitness
shows before, so I was like, all right, what a
perfect what a perfect opportunity for me to get back
to shape. So she and I went on this fitness
journey and my goal was to get back down to
my plane with two thirty seven. I hit that, and
so it was all way of getting back to the
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best version of me.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
Now.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Throughout that process, I was doing a lot of public speaking.
Since the documentar came out, I met with a lot
of a lot of successful people and they just happened
to be in a private equity world and they're telling me, like,
why aren't you doing what we're doing He's like, there's
no reason why you shouldn't be doing what you know
(43:48):
we're doing. You know, you have the network, you have
the abilities. You just need to make those decisions for yourself.
And I'm sitting over here and you tall, and I'm like, Okay,
Like we're living a comfortable life, but we're not living
the off season.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
Go to Spain life cam, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Like I want to. I want to. I want to
give that to my kids, you know what I mean.
I know Tony is out here in Utah and I
watch him how he moves and it inspires me. I'm like, man,
he's on a private jet everywhere, you know. I mean,
he just came back from the F the F one
race over there in Vegas. You know, I'm like, man,
I want to do that. You know, how can I
do that? Well?
Speaker 5 (44:20):
I started.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
I started to contact a lot of people, talk to
a lot of people, and you know, so we're in
the process of getting into the private equity work world.
And that's that's where I know that I can do
everything that I want to do. One I can be
present in my in my kid's life the way that
I want to too. I can be the example to
them of what I want life to be for them.
Right and three, I can build generational wealth. I can
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I can introduce my children and my children's children to
a thinking and a mentality and an approach to life
that it's going to get them to a place you
know where. Okay, daddy got the private jet. Now what
you're going to do? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (44:59):
So that hit different?
Speaker 3 (45:01):
You know what I'm saying. But that's the envelope that
I'm trying to.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Push, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Why not? Like? Why not? You know what I mean, Like,
it's all up to me, you know what I mean.
So it's up to me. Then you know I'm gonna
take it as far as I can take it. And then, son,
I taught you everything that I could learn, everything that
I've done.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Now you gotta take it, you know.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
What I mean.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
I can only get you so far. Bro.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
I took the took the Family of Spain, and take
was like, oh we could do that again. No, no, no, baby,
I took you to Spain for a reason. We lived
out there this all season. Because one, I wanted to
introduce you to a different world. Two I wanted I
want you to be inspired to learn Spanish. And three,
I want you to understand when you talk to your friends,
not everybody gets to live in Spain for two and
a half three months. You know, like when you like,
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it takes it takes a certain way of working, take
take a certain lifestyle to get to where you are.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
So you can't just be like, oh, I'm just gonna
live off my dad.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
No, baby, like why spout turn off. I'm gonna tell
you what my daddy told me. Hey, I'm doing okay. Yeah,
I don't know how you're gonna live, but I'm always.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Like yes's and that's shout out to pops like Steve
Steve Jordan.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
I was like, I remember, bro, I used to you know,
have a TJ Max budget. I had a checking book
that I had, and I was like, I'm living in
a big house, you know, five six fifty three fifty
four hundred square feet, which is huge to me. You know,
I'm going to all my friends places and they're sitting
on you know, a thousand square feet or twelve hundred
sqare feet twenty two hundred square feet.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
I don't know. I got a big house, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
And they're in Ja's and they're in you know, koogie
back in the Gap and they rocking, you know, Louis
Vautan belt Hey, like, I'm over here. I came to
my dad at like twelve, thirteen years old, once I
understood what materials things were, and I.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Was like, man, are we broke? I was like, Dad,
he did play lead for thirteen years. And he looked
at me and was like, nah, I'm doing really good. Actually.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
I was like, I'm an engineer, you know, I got
my degree from Brown, I'm still an engineer. I played
the lead for thirteen years, Like, I'm doing really well. Actually,
but you son, you're broke.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
And I was like, and that's with me, bro But
that's but that's the power of parenting, though, you understand,
because Dad could have took taken a totally different way.
You could have had you dressed to the nicest things and
enabled you, you know. And that's one thing that I
told my wife is I'll never do is I'll never
go and enable my kids like I'm going to do
with what you just said, Cam. I'm gonna take them
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around the world. I'm going to give them those experiences.
I'm going to open up their eyes to see, like, hey, man,
like your dreams. I'm going to show you what your
dream looks like. I'm not just going to tell you
write it on a paper. No, you want to do this, cool,
I'm going to take you over there so that you
can be in the buildings. You could see the environments,
you could talk to the people, you could smell, you
could taste, you could feel, you know, because then it
becomes a reality for you. Now it becomes a goal.
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Now you know what it looks like. Now you could
picture yourself in those places. So that's what it's all about.
For me, it was like, you ask me, what's next, Well,
what's next is the top? Okay, now we get to
this summit of this mountain. Well, there's always another mountain
to climb. Let's get to the top of that one.
There's always, you know, and it never stops, never stops.
And I don't ever wanted to stop from my kids,
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and and I'm always going to learn from you. I'm
always gonna learn from your dad. You know, your dad's
one of the best humans I ever met. Man. Every
time he saw me, he always said what's up, always
asked how I was doing. And you never if you
ever ran into your dad. You never knew that he
played in the league as long as he had had
that success. You'll never know because he's just so down
to earth. And then you meet you, You're like, oh,
(48:24):
makes sense. You know it makes sense because you was
raised by that guy, you know what I mean? Like
your you run into The only way you would know
that your professional athlete is because you look like one.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
If you talk to you can't you can't hide these
shoulders fail. I'm not even in the camp camp frame. Now.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yeah, either you either know that or you know that
Cam a professional athlete because his big self coming out
of the small some small car sometimes. I remember he
was rolling the suv sometimes and he was parking the
parking lot you're supposed to not park at.
Speaker 5 (48:51):
You know, I was the only Cam can park over there,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (48:54):
But you know you never know, right, And that's what
I feel is the best thing that somebody could tell you, like,
is my interactions with you was on a human level,
one of the best interactions that I could ever have.
And they had nothing to do with your social status,
you know what I mean. And so all of those
people that I've met that's in this private equity world
that's pro billions. Like I met a dude who he
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runs a two hundred billion dollar firm, Bro, like with
a bee can, walking in with Louis bouton everything, like
I thought I was stunning with some Travis, some Trevors
Scott's like I was like a boy came run some
Louise left in a Lambeo truck. But like the conversations, Bro,
human and human, right, and he's just like, how can
I help you?
Speaker 5 (49:35):
How can well?
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Man, Clay, I want to do that, you know, I
want to get to that level so I can turn
back around and say, hey, bro, how can I help you?
You know, how can I get you here? You know
what I mean? Because that's that's what I want to
see everybody win, bro, And that's what you know, there's
people that helped me to win. I mean, I want
to see everybody win. So yeah, that's that's what's next.
That's what we're working on. That's what's current, you know,
that's that's the current events for the Techle family right now. Yeah,
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future events. Hopefully my son goes to Notre Dame. You know,
he already got a verbal offer this weekend. So you're
ten months old, can't your tens old? Coach? Coach Freeman
came over. Here's like you have an offer. I was like,
all right, coach, I'm gonna make sure he ready. Now.
Speaker 5 (50:15):
He ain't gonna play linebacker.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
You're gonna play quarterback because an autumn rules and football
right now. Protecting and that boy, you can't land on them.
You can't hit him above the shoulder, you can't hit
him below the knees.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
And once he releases, you better not touch them.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
You better not touch him, said sons, You're gonna play quarterback.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
I appreciate you tapping in, Bro. I'm gonna get you
out of here.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
I try and keep it around thirty five, but I
love having great people on here.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
It's been nothing but a pleasure keeping you on off
the edge with me. Bro, it's my ted tell you
know what I'm saying. Always, Bro, I appreciate you for
everything that you are.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
I'm gonna tap in shortly.
Speaker 5 (50:55):
I love you, brother always.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
This week has been, you know, a blessing man. First self,
shout out to my guy Manti for hitting the pod up.
You know, just talking about what it means to be
a good person. I get a human and he's one
of the best of them. You know, just going into
this Thanksgiving week, I mean, we're going to talk about
our favorite foods, right, Just let's get off the rattle off, right?
Speaker 2 (51:24):
What is your top three? Since I got to New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
It's mac and cheese, It's gumbo, and it's the seafood
stuff peppers. Now I think there's cornbread stuff and there's
some kind of stuff and I'm not sure what goes
into it. I have to order this because I have
yet to figured it out.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Before I have to leave New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
I'm going to figure out where or how to create
these right, fire top three?
Speaker 2 (51:44):
I need to know yours.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
That being said, you know, I just want to think
about Thanksgiving and how blessed I've been. It's why, you know,
every year I try and give back so much of
my time and efforts to Thanksgiving Week, trying to feed
my community.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
You know who's in need.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
This past week, you know, I teamed up my foundation
God Is Love, teamed up with Giving Hope Closet, Giving
Hope No Love Closet over there in New Orleans, the
East where they do a lot of great things, and
gave out hundreds of turkeys. You know, fam showed up,
kids got to give out turkeys. I just want I
just want them to know that it's okay to be a.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Blessing to another person. You know, I think in this
day and time.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
You know, we're grateful for everything that we have. Health, family, Uh,
the ability to see our you know, our loved ones.
You know my my wife's families coming in this week. Uh,
you know they're gonna do some great things on the
on the grill while I'm working, and I'm gonna get
to come home and to a great meal. Some families
don't have that, and it's it's just so important to
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give back and try to hopefully give a little bit
of joy on on a week that's meant for giving.
Speaker 5 (52:52):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Uh so shout out to.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
Everybody who who made the event great. You know Troy Douhon,
Miss Betty Tom, Miss you know Alicia's Sheridan Burchard. Uh,
you know the whole Saints. Tina backed up, showed up
for the media situation. You know, wifey Nikki Jordan's brought about.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
The kids through.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
You know Tank Glow, Niah Cha Cha Chanel. You know
they came through and they gave out turkeys, and my
couple of teammates showed up. Shout out to my dog,
Brian Razi, my little rook. I don't think he had
the choice in it, but he showed up. Just amazing
overall support. So it's always a blessing to be a blessing.
Just keep that in mind. Uh And for that, I
(53:33):
just want to wrap up the show. You know, I
appreciate everybody tuning in, tapping in. I hope you guys
have a phenomenal Thanksgiving. I hope the gumbo was hidden,
the you know, mac potato gravy shmacking, and I hope
that everybody's.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Mac and cheese and the cheeses or the mac and cheese.
Unless you're lactose intolerant.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Then I'm sorry because I'm gonna eat them, both of us,
and I'm gonna put my.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Little side plate away and probably eat again.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
Right, you know, after Sunday when I get back to
the crib, because we all know food hits the next day.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
But it can't be the next day. It's gotta be
the best day. It's gotta be Sunday after we beat
the balcons.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
Anyways, thank you'all for tuning in with me Cam Jordans on.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
My podcast Off the Ish. That's it, baby.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Go ahead tell your friends while you're sitting at the table, Hey,
tune in.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Tap in anywhere you get your podcasts. That's at Apple Podcasts,
I Heart Radio app. You know wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Tune in, tap in for Thanksgiving, Giving, thanks Being a Blessing.
Off the Edge with me Yo's cam jays Peece
Off the bye week heading into Turkey Thanksgiving Week aka
Rivals Rivalry Week versus the Falcons. Thank you for tuning
in to Off the Edge with me, your host, Cam Jordan.
I'm super excited. We're not only going to talk about
the feal Cons, the Falcons, the you know, the trash cans,
(00:25):
I mean the Falcons, right Saints Rivalry Week. It's New
Orleans versus Atlanta. You know, Louisiana versus Georgia.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It is what it is.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I love this week. I didn't know about this rivalry
till you got here, and it's such a great rivalry.
The city feels it every person you talk to Today.
I was out there giving out turkeys, giving out turkeys
to you know, the community and people stopping and they
say thanks for turkeys.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Without was like, hey, it's dirty birdy week. You know
what we need? We need a fried Falcon.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And I said, yeah, we're gonna work on pushing that
one out there. But beyond that, you know, we're gonna
talk about hits like Kareem Jackson and this this double
suspension and one season, the latest suspension coming up from
from a hit on a quarterback. I'm not saying the
quarterbacks are getting softer, the league is getting softer. But
rules need to be changed, you know, I find I'm sure,
(01:16):
but come and suspend them a little tough. And of
course we're gonna talk about you know who we're bringing
up next on this episode. I got my dog, you know,
for former player uh drafted to the Chargers when they
were back in San Diego, came to the New Orleans Saints,
and then beyond that, just a phenomenal god fearing Christian man,
my dog, my oos Mantaiteo. So tune in taping off
(01:39):
the edge of Me, Cam Jordan. So let's obviously get
to what I want to talk about, right Thanksgiving Week.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Let's talk about It's Rapper week versus the Falcons, Saints
versus Falcons rivalry. I'm not sure what the score is
for for the you know, the historical purposes. As far
as I know, I think I am thirteen years in.
This will be the twenty fifth time I played the Falcons.
I believe I'm sixteen and eight against the Falcons. I
(02:10):
don't know if you know that that's two to one.
That means I'm sixty six percent chance of winning. I
like them odds. I love them odds. For the Saints,
they've got Desmond Ritter, you know, Drake Kyle, Drake Lennon,
Kyle Pitts. Uh. You know they just drafted another top
ten guy, another you know, a kid out of Arizona.
So I hate to have to deal it to him
(02:30):
because we're from Arizona. But one have to try and
lock him all the way down. B Jon Robinson, Dude
is dude is showing some talent as a rookie coming
out of University of Texas.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It's a whole nother thing. But this rivalry. Who I said,
I'm giving out, I'm giving.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Out turkey said, you know this week I had a
God's Love Foundation, me partner up with Giving Hope Nola.
This wonderful Giving Hope Noda closet they give out to
the community down in New Orleans East. Uh So I'm
out here giving out hundreds of turkeys, right and each
car I'll come to who that We love you Saints.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Nation's the best nation. Kim. You've been here so long.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You know whatever it is. You know what I need?
Oh you need a turkey. Let me get you some
fixes you. Let me get you no height beyond the turkey,
Thank you for the turkey. I need a fried falcon.
I need a dirty bird leg I need.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I need to go ahead. Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Need to go down, baby, baby girl, Matt Ryan, don't
don't play for the for the Falcons no more. I
need that quarterback go down. Who's that quarterback, Taylor Hanneke, No, ma'am.
I believe it's Desmond Ridder. Yeah, Riddler, Riddler. Riddler needs
to go down. Okay, all right, we're gonna have to,
you know, be on a piece of q's dot our
i's cross our t's to get this job done.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Because what we have been doing is letting quarterbacks escape
on us for some reason. And that's on the D line.
So that starts right here with me.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You know what we have to do is lock them
down because this rivalry means more than just you know,
more than just a game.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
This this is.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
The epitome of black and gold versus black and red.
This is the epitome of the cities don't really mess
with each other because of this game. You know, like
guys go out their way to hate on Atlanta, Atlanta
goes out their way to hate on Norman Saints. You know,
I might as well call them diet Saints at this point.
They've got half our D line from last from previous years.
(04:25):
They've got David on your motto. They've got you know,
Albert Huggins. They had Jalen Dalton at one point. You know,
they took a linebacker, Kayen Ellis.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
They got the previous D line coach is now the
DC over there.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Sounds like the Falcons bought into the Saints way honestly,
But I mean, can you. I mean, there's just so
many points. There's been times where I've flown into the
Atlanta Airport I'm like, oh, you're a good player.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
But we don't like you. And I'm like, dang, I
love to do a step off the plane. I'm just
having a connection. I'm not here. Mm hmm, Cam huh, Well,
Matt Ryan gone, what you're gonna do? Now? Why are
you upset that you guy retired?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Me and him, you know, have such a special connection
where I've sacked him more times than anyone defender has
sacked the quarterback before, with the staggering number of twenty
three times. That's not on me, you know, that's all
your guys for not protecting them. But I just think
that when it comes down to it, you know, even
previous years where we've had a bad year, there's been
(05:32):
times where we washed Atlanta and the city is still good.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Like you walk into a place and they'll.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Be like, hey, we'll get him next year, but just
know we like them.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Two times we beat Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You know, I can remember two years ago, Matt Ryan's
last game we played against him, end of the season,
we beat we beat Matt Ryan, got to sack all him.
I'm like, he's jogging off. I jogged behind him, just like,
hey man, you know, just talking to him. Always been
a good guy, appreciated for all the sacks, you know,
added to the career tally, but you know, just didn't
(06:07):
realize that was gonna be Matt Ryan's last game. But
it was like at the end of that we needed
that win the most. They always It happened at the
end of the season too, so it means that much more.
I mean, honestly, I can't I can't wait for this weekend.
So let's move on, you know, and get to Kareem
Jackson or a second suspension of the season. About the
(06:28):
hit off the hit that he put on Josh Dobbs
for the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
It gets frustrating at times when.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You see a guy like Kareem Jackson get suspended for
the second time in one season. Find him, Okay, the
flag was not the flag was not thrown, It did
not peede on the what the Broncos defense was trying
to do to the Minnesota Vikings offense. And at that point,
Josh Dobbs had declared sort of as a running back,
and in that there was a whole bunch of bodies around.
So Kareem comes flying in being a relentless pursuit defender.
(06:57):
It's sure his head placement might not have been in
the right place, whatever that is, So find him and
move on. Tell them to hey, keep your head up
or else we're gonna keep going taking your money. But
to suspend him a really good player for the defense
of the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Come on, man, that's depending on the game. We're just
trying to have a good game. We're just trying to
be the best players that we can be.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
You know, we take that out of it, and now
you're telling coaches like you know, coaches telling defenders, Hey,
you know the vice tackles or keep your head out
of it or whatever this is.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Coaches are like, hey, how do I coach this where
it used to be?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You know, like, let's just focus on as an offensive player,
Like hey, you know and if maybe in high school, college,
whatever it was, maybe you focus on how office player
should receive those hits.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Tom Brady started talking about, you know, not not placing
a ball in the middle from you know, having guys
like ray Lewis, Ronnie Lotts, you know, all these these
Hall of Fame players, because you're like, yo, if you
throw this bottle middle, you place it in the middle,
You're really good. Player is gonna go really fast.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I think I look at a lot of players like
ray Lewis and Rodney Harrison and Ronnie Lott and guys
that impacted the game in a certain way, and every.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Hit they would have made would have been a penalty.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Your coach is complaining about their own player being tackling
and not necessarily, why don't they talk to their player
about how to protect themselves. We used to work on
the fundamental of those things all the time. Now they're
trying to be regulated all the time. Offensive players need
to protect them Sell, it's not up to the defensive player.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
To protect offensive player.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
A defensive player needs to protect them Sell, I didn't
throw the ball to certain areas because I was a
great Players are going to get knocked out.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
That's the reality.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I didn't throw it to the middle.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
When I played ray Lewis because you knock them out
of the game and I couldn't afford to lose a
good player.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Everybody's fighting for every yard. This is a game of inches,
right fourth to one third or whatever?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Game of inches? Do I have time to think about
my body.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Position where there's running back is lowering his body to
create contact.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The lack of consistency causes confusion, you know, it's just
what do you think about what this game is. I'm
running as fast as I can. They're running as fast
as as the office is running as fast as they can.
They're trying to create big plays. I'm trying to create
a turnover or force a turnover. I don't have time
to be like, oh, did I go across the bout?
Did I keep my chin up while I was trying
(09:15):
to place my chest within his chest also higher lower
than his chin, and my helmet did not slide up
and tag him. I don't have time for that. I'm
moving as fast as I can. When you think about
eleven defenders running to the ball, relentless pursuit, relentless pursuit
doesn't equal Hey, let me size up and make sure
that the offensive player is okay. And I asked him
(09:37):
as he's falling, are you going to be all right
while I try to adjucate the.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Ball from his I don't have time for that. It's
just ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I'm trying to hit this man, and I'm going in
with ill intentions, with the smile.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
On my face. Like to play defense.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
You have to be a little like, you know, loose
in the head. You've got a couple of screws, just
look slightly unhands. You have to embrace that, you know,
and these flags happening hurting the team because I'm trying
to play my butt off. You have that that come on, man,
like you stop making stop making guys confused and or soft,
and let the guys be guys. Let the words be
(10:14):
worris and let it keep on rolling. We gotta keep
on doing this. I'm just saying, let us play ball.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
And when would come back from the break, My guy,
Man Taitel, go and join us on Off the Edge.
Super excited Bro that you're you're even tapping in.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Uh, it's my dog, you know, my my brother, my oose,
my man that walked over to the house and left
some food on while we was playing, you know, back
in the gap. Bro, when I tell you, I'm excited
to have you on the podcast, Bro, like.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Strictly because you know, one we were teammates with.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Two because you're You're an honest, positive force to be
reckon with, Bro, and like you, I feel like you
don't get enough flowers as it is, and you probably
I'm not sure. You know you out Utah. You rolled
down your window and it's probably snowing outside. You know,
I'm not meant for the snow. But oh, I say,
uh Man Taitel. You know, Bro, everything that you did
in college over at Notre Dame was spectaclar. You know
(11:13):
you played there. You were should have been, in my mind,
a Heisman Trophy winner. You had a Heisman push you
don't say a runner up if you will, but the
the things that you did in college were absolutely special.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know you look down and you were gonna have
accolades for days.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
You talk about the Maxwell Award, you know, the Walter
Camp Award, you talk about the Lot Award, the Chuck
I can never get that Linebacker Award, Merik Award. Bro,
Like what in college there was no no award untouched
that you didn't have. Bro, You're a unanimous All American,
like say you you should in my mind you should
have been a Heisman Trophy winner.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
But you know, it just is what it is.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
You get drafted in the second round to the San
Diego Chargers. Does that feel weird that you know it's
not seeing Ago no more? Are you d la Chargers?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I know I always rep San Diego's you know.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
You know, you know how it is.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
You know, even even when I was playing, you know,
with New Orleans, I was still living in San Diego.
I would send you the pictures of my tacos at oscars,
you know. And so you, you and the family are
supposed to come out many at times. And then we
moved and you refuse to come out here in the
cold snow. So we're gonna have to link up in
San Diego.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I'm gonna get out there.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Are you out outside of City Park where you at?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
We're in Lehigh, right between Propo and South Lake, and yeah,
we gotta take you on the slopes. I know, you know,
you know, you've got the elite level of athleticism. The
only de Lineman to know, the only de Linen that
I know leads the conditioning and the half gasser. So
you definitely could make it down the hills.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I look see that, but I'm not I'm not conditioned
for snow film. Bro.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
We played that one game in Cleveland and it changed
my Like it solidified my perspective on nobody should play
in colde games. But it also changed my life in
terms of I was like, I can't be in America anymore.
I left it and we lived in Spain this offseason
because of that Cleveland game. I said, I was like, Babe,
pack it up, take off. We're taking all four kids,
are your homeschooling, and we're leaving.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
See just a little a little cam slight flex right there.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
I decided I'm going to go to Spain. Pack your
stuff up.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
See a lot of us can't make those type of decisions, bro.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You know, so you packed up a mood of utah.
You were like, this breeze feels too good.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yo, okay, okay, But my decision was it was because
of living purposes. It was like, I don't have the
cam type of tax brackets, so we got to get
out of these high taxes and go to a lower
I I didn't just say let's go to Spain. You know, yeah,
(13:45):
we're not there yet.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
You didn't freeze like I felt it was.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It was negative twenty eight. It was the coldest game
in Saint's history, the second coldest game for Cleveland. And
I said, wait, the fact that it was the second
coldest game for Cleveland, I should not be here.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Well, you remember I went to college.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Oops. You know, yeah, the negative temperatures, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
It's ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, close that you chose. You're like,
ooh yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Anyways, so let's let's just say, you know, you got
drafted to the San Diego Chargers. We just moved past that,
you know, get us to the Saints. You know, you
come on to the team.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
What year was it, twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, twenty seventeen, Yeah, there was sevent.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Seventeen to twenty nineteen. Bro, you're on the Saints for
a few years.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Bro, you come in and you bring automatic juice like
I've never seen I've never seen somebody come in and
mold so well with the team, you know, Like it
was like you and just like coming off of a
fresh team whatever that was, you came on to the
team and everybody just fully embraced you and or you
embraced us.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Yeah, and bro, what was that like the.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
First day, the first day that you came in there,
I sat right next to you. I was like, all right, bro,
give me the real story.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And you know, honestly, like
how you said, I brought the juice, but honestly, the
team brought the juice back to me, you know what
I mean. So that was what was so beautiful about
being in New Orleans. It was it was the locker room.
It was the personal relationships that I had with you,
with Craig, with Alex you know.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
And THENDED came in the next year.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Detroit right now, Davis is that guy you know, Craig
Robinson used to bring that juice you and him.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Yeah, you know, and so it was it went, it
went both ways.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
You know. I'm forever grateful to all my brothers over
there at New Orleans for kind of helping me to
resurrect my career because I played some I played the
best ball that I.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Played in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
And I had everything to do with, you know, the
pat that I took personally to get back to where
I needed to get to. But the people that I
surrounded myself with, the people in that locker room, that
helped me to you know, once once you sat next
to me, we had that conversation. I remember, I was
the name of locker. We had that conversation. It was
like it was like, oh, let's go play ball, you
know what I mean. And that's that's where the first
(16:07):
time that I felt that people saw me as a teammate,
you know, and not just a news clipping, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
And my play was able to raise from there.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
And man, I had I had the most one playing
over there in New Orleans, and especially that we got
we got to go back to California during the preseason
and we played you know, we had a joint practice
against the Chargers and.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
You might as well like hit your hit your Hoker
film and like I was like, all right, this clearly
meant something to him.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, well, I think it was a It was a
benefit because then we got out of that humidity, you know.
And I remember man Sean was trying to make he
was trying to make a point, you know, that that year,
and I was just like, I remember thinking to myself.
I was like, so the year that I signed here,
you decided to bring the team back to New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
We had just done like three off seasons in Northern
Virginia with all those training camps in Northern Vidia where
it was like sixty five and Sonny seventy sunny, and
we had like three years of back to back, back
to back to back losing seasons of seven and nine,
seven and nine, seven and nine, and he was like,
you know, the older kid down was like, this is
the way you guys want to play. Tom Binson came down,
was like this is the way you got. You'll never
(17:19):
go back to Virginia again. And Sean Paygne was like,
you heard what he said. Now let's double down.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
And I was like, Jesus that you came, remembro. He
came in and like we went days of straight hitting.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You know, we had to run off the practice field
because we were running out of time at practice in
that training camp.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
So by the time we hit Cali bro for that
joint practice. Everybody was like, of.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
This ith this all you guys do you only have
thirty plays?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Come on? No?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
I remember I remember who was it.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
He came off the edge and just thumped the running
back and I remember thinking, like Mark, it was Marcus, remember,
And there was like a whole the ruckus that broke out,
But I don't know they were.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
They were upset, like Marcus, that comes off Hill's just
running back and judgers are like, this is not how.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
We practice, like this how we practiced.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So no idea, but it was that.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I have that level of confidence that because of what
we went through, like you stand no chance, you know
what I mean? And that's what I felt like. It
helped us to get into that mentality of man, like
there's no way that you guys went through what we
went through, like having thirty forty plus people. I remember
after practice, like forty of us in there with ivs
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just it looked like a scene from a movie.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
And I just walked by.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I walked by everybody like I'm I'm you know, I
don't cramp up, bro, So I just walked by everybody.
I'm like weakness, Yeah, you know, I was like, look
at you guys, you and your ivs.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Bro, You're like, you're you're taking two bags? My guy?
What was that was the name Devaux whatever?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Devro's got like three bags in Oh, Bro, there's there's
guys hurting everywhere.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I'm just like weakness do it.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
It went from It went from a fashion statement.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You know, like everybody coming in with advisors on by
day two, the advisors are.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Off sleeves everywhere.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
It's just trying to survive. You know.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
You took out two pairs of cleats, three pairs of socks,
like at the at the second like special teams period,
everybody was switching out their socks, switching out their cleats,
like switching out gloves.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
You know, it was to switch out those fleets.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Bro. Like a training a training camp in New Orleans
when it's it's like ninety eight degrees one hundred percent humidity,
You're you're practicing for two and a half hours, Bro,
an hour in your shoes like you're stepping in it
feels like you got to puddle your shoes. You bring
two or three pairs of cleades to practice just so
like conditioningwise, you're not moving underwater.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
But Bro, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
But I really want to start off with, first of all,
congratulations on you know, all your success, bro, starting with
Notre Dame of course, Polynesian Hall of Fame. You know,
it's like even your high school isn't the forest butner
from your high school too in Hawaii? Like you know,
I can't I'm not even going to attempt.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
To say your high school prep school. There you go,
you got it there in there, bro, But like.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I just want to how does it feel, bro, to
to know that you become an all time great at
Notre Dame?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Like everything that you did, Bro?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You know, you throw the stats out there and there's
a reason why you know, four years, four hundred and
thirty seven tackles, you know, ranked third all time in
the in history there, Like, how does it feel to
know you put such a phenomenal college screen together to
even have a chance to go to the league?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Like that's always been a dream of mine?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
So for you, well, I think it goes back to
the saying like you always want to leave the place
better than when you found it, you know, and for
me to be able to do that in my way
and the fashion that I did it, obviously Notre Dame
is is one of the most stored football programs in
the country, and I just literally went in there to
you know, continue the dominance that my father Thomas, since
(20:58):
I was little, to you know, really stick to my
routines and you know, hopefully the result would be what
I wanted it to be. I mean, the result was
always success just based off of the work ethic. And
so for me to do that and to have an
impact on people off of the field was exactly what
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I would want my career to be like. While I
was at Notre Dame, and it's a special place and
it's it's nice now because we literally just got back
from South Bend this past weekend. I took my wife
and my babies out there, and you know what was
what's nice is my wife didn't know the Notre Dame me.
You know, she knew the NFL ME, and you know,
unfortunately the NFL ME didn't it didn't reach the heights
(21:41):
of the Notre Dame ME. And so when we go
back to South Bench, she gets to see like the plaques,
the murals that all of the trophies and but.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
College not many people reached that level of success, not
like there's there's only a few cats, you know, like
not too many of you.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You heard what I said, third third in all times
the tackles.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Man like, yeah, yeah, it was, it was. It was
up there. It was like that that was what we
like to see as a summit, you know what I
mean when people when people talk about reaching the summit,
Like in my life for that time, like that was
the summit of college football. You know what I was
able to achieve and attain on a personal level and
(22:23):
on a team level, you know, to to make it
to the national championship. You know. Obviously we got whooped
up on by by Alabama, you know, and you know, I.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Had, I had, I had.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I had a bad taste of Alabama for a long time.
And then I met Duce Stews and and you know,
just to know Mark and I'm like jeez, and then
you know, too went there and so it was.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
One of those things.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It was honestly to have my family experience it with me,
to people to know my name, my last name, and
to recognize my family in public, like that's.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
For for a kid growing up in a small town
in Hawai.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
That was everything that I wanted it to be to
have that type impact.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, I still don't understand this whole.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Like I was, I'm from Hawaii and then I lived
in San Diego and then I moved to Utah. I'm like,
I'm I'm gonna talk about this forever, like nothing but
nothing but breeze and views of ocean, and like now.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
You're like, yeah else, yeah, yeah, Well when the milk
goes from twin dollars a gallon and hooyd and you
come on bear as five dollars, You're like, yeah, you know, the.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
The temperature I could deal with, you know what I mean,
My duck is sub stretched a lot farther.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So let's talk about the Polynesian Hall of Fame, bro,
because like now there's there's you're part of the living legends,
that's that's in there now. Troy Palmalu would probably be
the first name that comes to my mind, and now
the second name is gonna be Man, I tell you thanks,
like you know, like I'm just saying, like when you're
when you're when you're in that same breath, Polynesia Hall
of Fame, Like I said, I'm a joke, but like,
(23:52):
well the rock's in there too, But.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
But in terms of football.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, Troy Palus you him, you know you're probably up
next is probably Marcus Mariota, like you know.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, probably, you know, there's it's gonna be heavy company.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
DFO is definitely going to be in there, Toy is
definitely gonna be in there. Talanoa is definitely gonna be
in there. You know, obviously there's still careers are still going,
but to be in the Polynesian Hall of Fame, it's
a big deal because.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Now life comes full circle.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
You know, Like when I was a little kid, Troy
was my example of oh I could do it, you
know what I mean, Like to see Troy play at
play at USC and for him to be drafted to
the Stealers and watch his career you know, go as
it went and you know.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Hall of Famer, you know, Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
For me growing up as a little kid, you know,
I look up to those type of individuals, you know
what I mean, Like, man, if Troy can do it,
I can do it. You know, there's a way to
do it because he's he's kind of blazed that path
for me now to be in that position and understanding that,
you know, there's there's kids back at home. There's kids
around the world that's looking up to me and say, hey, man,
I did it, I could do it.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
And I think, you know, for for like.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
To come full circle that way just goes to show
that all the hard work and the sacrifices that myself
and my family you know, put in, you know, it
all paid off and hopefully, you know, we'll be able
to push the script with allowing younger the younger generations
to say, hey, we can do what he did and more.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
You know what I mean, Let's.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Let's take it higher, let's take it further, and then
hopefully the next generation comes around and pushes that even further.
And that's kind of what that Polynesian Hall of Fame
means for me. It's it's it's a it's a celebration
that all the hard work was was was worth it.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
But at the same time, it's just another.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Flag up there to tell those kids that's behind me
to say.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Hey, bro, like you could do the same thing. They'll
take it further, you.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Big legacy, yeah, legacy.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, yeah, you know, and that's what it's all about,
you know, so you know we all can really like,
you know, with that is like when we die, like obviously,
the only thing that stays here is our names and
the stories that people tell about us, and you know,
their interactions with us, you know what I mean, And
so I always wanted those interactions and those stories to
be positive, you know, to be like, man, my life's
better because I met mantime, my life's better because I met.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Camp and I and you know, you know how I
feel about you.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
You know, you know that the impact that you've had
on me and my family, and you know, when a
documentary came out, like you was one of the first
people that I text, you know, just say hey Oosh,
Like I wouldn't be where I'm at if it wasn't
for you personally, you know, like taking all of us
to the jay Z concert, like you have no idea.
So I like how much that concert changed my life,
(26:44):
Like where I was at that time, and you invited
me just being around the fellas, I was like, okay, cool,
like getting to know my teammates. But then the spiritual
journey that that that concert had on me, because obviously
jay Z was going through his stuff with Beyonce and
he at a lot of people like saying this about him,
and I remember he started off the whole thing with
his dialogue and the narrative and he went through to
(27:07):
kill jay Z stuff, and I remember like just thinking
about it and listening to him, and I'm like, man,
those are some of the things that go on in
my head, you know what I mean. And then when
he ended it with saying, you can't heal what you
don't reveal, like, bro, that was just it was mind
blowing to me. And I'm like, bro, like that's what
I got to do.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
And so from that.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Moment on, it was like my my whole life kind
of took a one eighty of Man, I'm looking about
I'm looking at this thing to hold the wrong way,
you know what I mean. And it had everything to
do with that concert. And then you look at how
I played ball that year and look at you know,
and everybody would come to me, it's like, man, that's
a notre dame. Man tis playing. I was like, well,
in order for me to get here, there are events
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that needed to take place, you know what I mean,
in order for me to get to display the space
mentally and emotionally. And that concert that you took me
to had it was a big, big part of that healing,
and so like again, it was like I never forget
the people that was there for me, and you was
obviously one of those one of those people, and that's
why I had to I had to pay my respects
(28:08):
to you and you as.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
The you know, like like I said, one of.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
The few people that I text.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Bro, you you hit me and I didn't even know
the impact, you know, Like I'm like, yeah, bro, Like
you know, like if I'm in if I'm in a
switeen d line.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
And the suitet a, you know, the defense is always welcome.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
We even open up to the office sometimes, you know,
Like I'm all about that defense camaraderie because I think
that makes the team better when you know what your
brothers are going through, you know, like we bleed together.
Why would I not you know, why would I want
not want to know more about you as a person.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
So it's always it's always that idea of building family,
but just that how did you even navigate?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Like bro, Like why do those words hit you so hard.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
That when you when you when that documentary came out
earlier this year, Like how did you navigate that emotional
aspect of sort of having to relive through everything, right.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, yeah, well, you know it goes back to that
saying that jay Z said he can't heal what you
don't reveal, you know, and there's a lot of healing
that occurs when you can verbalize things, you know what
I mean. I didn't realize how heavily I was. I was.
I was holding everything in and you can't heal it
when the poison is inside of you. You know, you
have to bring that poison out. And the amount of
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healing that I did all the way up to that
point was enough for me to be comfortable in certain
certain circles. You know. There there was a time where
I wasn't comfortable in public, Like I literally would just
go to work, do what I had to do, come
home and just be a hermit, like I didn't want
to be around anybody.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Because like Locid, I know in New Orleans, big people person,
big heart person.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
But what you need, I'm here for you. I got
you some food at your front door. I knocked on
your door.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Like you Yeah, And that's that's the that's the evolution
of it all. You know what I mean, like that
was who I am at my core. I'm a guy
who I love people, I love, you know, having great
experiences with my friends, creating memories with my friends. You
know that the hermit, that's not me, you know. But
in order for me to get from the hermit to
(30:08):
the guy who was just you know, love was excitement,
was just enjoying the process and being grateful for the day.
Like there was a transition and and and a journey
that I had to go on, and a lot of
it had to be done by myself, but there are
key moments where I needed somebody to be there with me,
(30:29):
you know what I mean. And so like you're one
of those guys. Craig was one of those guys. Alex
was one of those guys that I really leaned heavily on.
And you said something.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
That that that was so really you said you, I
want to know I had all of these experiences, You
would have all of these experiences with the team the
defense to.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Know what they're going through, right.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I think what took it a step further was you
don't even you didn't even know the impact that you
were making. You didn't even know what your teamates are
going through but because you had him around, you were
doing healing for him that you didn't.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Even know you were doing.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
You know what I mean. That's the quality of a
great leader, you know what I mean, just somebody that
understands that what happens on the football field, it's just
a result of all the things that we've done together
at dinners, you know what I mean, all the things
that we've done on the on the practice field. Man,
you guys would play. You would play Smash Bros. Like
(31:26):
for hours. Bro, Like I remember, like your nigga gonna
call and I'm your neighbor, So yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Got can't can't. I can't go home before you broke
up with the boys, like after practice, I need I
need that.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, she's gonna see my truck in the driveway and
she'd be like cavade home yet like something. He still
plays Smash Bros.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Yeah, So it was, it was. It was a special transition.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
It was a special journey, and it was a journey
that you know, made me into who I am mos
to to really appreciate genuine relationships, appreciate good people and bro.
Like again, our locker room was special, bro, you know,
and that's what I always tell people, like the locker
room in New Orleans is what made the success of
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our team, you know, like how close we were and
so and now I always watch my boys, always watch
the guys on Sundays, and I'm like, they gotta have
fun again, you know what I mean. You have fun, celebrate,
you know what I mean, just bring that energy. So
we were like, we was like, I don't care what
nobody says. We was the one who started that turn.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Off for something. I think.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I think that's just that's that's already known, Like the
same started that. I don't know how you start, but
like that happened from from us. Boy, you know, Craig Roberson,
we out there with the big bucket of flowers, like Yeahewers.
You know, we get an interception and like running in
and everybody rallied behind it.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
And that for sure is the same thing. They still
do it as long as it's to a close end zone.
I'm with the job. Like if you have the thirty
and we go to the you know, we go to
the end zone. Bat if we had.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
The thirty and you turn around and you jogged seventy
no no, none, no no, SI you know.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
What that reminds me of.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Remember when we had that goal line stand against Atlanta
and I recover that fumble. I remember we're on the
goal line twenty seventeen. That happened that twenty seventeen. That
was a second. That was the second Atlanta game. Remember
I picked the ball off and I started to run.
I ran to the opposite side of the field. I
don't remember as I'm running. I remember watching the clip
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and your face was like, ooh, so would love I'm
with you, dog, But right there we still drop. Yeah,
I said, yeah, that probably was a bad, bad decision
for me to run to the opposite.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
You want to go?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
You want to go ninety seven yards?
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Yeah, we're just in the conditioning testing that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
This thing you talk about emotional intelligence, you talk about
just the quality of of knowing who you are.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
You found that over the years, But like, how did
how did that come about? Or what is it now
that you have a unique perspective on what it is
to be because you've lived at the highest peak of
what an athlete is when everybody's looking up at you.
You're still balling everything about it too. You've had setbacks whatever,
you know, the whole the whole cat fit situation to
coming back and we're getting drafted second round too, playing
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your type of your brand of football here with it
or here previously with the with the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Like what did that all take it to you? And
how do you look at the status of mental health now?
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Well, mental health to me, right is when you're mentally healthy.
It's I like to think that there's not a lot
of voices in your head. You know, those that are
that are mentally unhealthy, it's because they have so many
voices in their head. They're kind of they kind of
get lost, they get lost in the sauce of like
man like whether it's they're they're they're at a certain
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peak right and they think that there's something that they're
not or they're at a valley and there's so many
critics in their head that they can't just they can't
seem to shake it. And so I've been at both
right right now, the journey has allowed me to identify
all those voices, identify the sources of those voices, and
get them out. But now that the only voice that
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I hear is mine, And when.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
My voices like social media, your girl your family. You
know what. Oh, I got to take care of my parents.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Oh, like I need to be I need to be
this pinnacle of a player for me to be accepted.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You know, there's there's all types of pressures that are
equal voices in the head.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
You said, you said voice. It made me think about
the first time we ever had a conversation. I was like,
all right, before you before you be a mic and
call these plays. Girlfriend was imagination or was she like that?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
That's the story. So yeah, the voices like that's surrounding you.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, well they're they're pressures and and they're also they're
the critics, and they're also the fans, you know what
I mean, Because like when you're living on either extreme, Yeah,
whether they're dragging you or whether you have just like
ten sacks one game and they're like telling you you're
the greatest thing ever. Yeah, Like both of both extremes
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are dangerous, you know what I mean, especially if it's
not the beliefs that you have in your head, like
the fact that I know who I am to a
point where there's nothing that the praise or the criticism
can sway me. Yeah, that is why I mean, like
mental health and you being so sure of what your
identity is, who you are as a person, that you're
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not swayed either way.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Like that's you.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Know where I feel I got to that I that
I know who I am. There's nothing that you could
tell me that that's going to sway that, because I
was swayed a lot, and I kept swaying swinging. Eventually
I felt face flat, you know, and so I had
to literally pick myself back up and figure out, you know,
from score one, and build myself up from score one
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from Birke one.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
And again I had.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
To do a lot of it by myself, but there
were people that helped me to to to to to
build that, you know, whether it be my family, my parents,
my siblings, my friends like yourself, my wife, you know,
my kids now you know. So it's a journey that
everybody must take. It's a journey that you know, I
hope that it doesn't take people as long as.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
It took me.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
But the journey is is what you know creates and
it modes, and you know, you'll be happy with the
final product. And and I'm definitely happy with with you know,
who I came up to be as a man. You know,
so for anybody that's going through mental health issues, in
order for you to be the best version of yourself,
you need to be internally the best version of you
because what happens outside is just a reflection of what's
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going on inside, you know. And so that's that's kind
of my piece on that.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying, bro, Like.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
You never know, you never know, like even talking about it, bro,
who you're affecting or you know, it feels like it's
a sermon at times, bro, Like that's just a message
somebody may need to hear, you know, in this in
this day and age, well, you know, we're starting to
unders understand this EQ or this even like I call
twenty like I call twenty twenty on like the error
to be soft, right, and I sort of chuckle about it.
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But it's literally like, you know, everybody's worried about other
people's opinions. Everybody's worried about everybody's you know, how I
affected the next person over or how are they affected me?
Or social media does this and all in all these
other circumstances where it's like.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Bro, know who you are and stand on it, you.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Know, like like live live your truth, live your life,
and you know, be blessed. Like there's so many ways
that can go. Life can always be worse and life
can always be better.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
It's just like watching you after a game football film,
You're be like, Bro, I played terrible game. Film is
not going to be as good as you think it is,
and you're not going to be as bad as you
think it is.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Those days you're like, oh, I killed them.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I had four sacks that couldn't touch me, and you
walk on like, dang, I got locked up like three
or four times, bro, like or are close.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
It could have been a seven sack game and all
I left was with three or four.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
You know, like that's a great analogy. That is actually
a great analogy of of of of how life is right,
you know, and like I never thought of that analogy,
but now that you put it that way, that's actually
the perfect analogy for it. It's never as bad as
you think it is, and it's never as great as
you think it is, you know. So like again, to
stay grounded in it all, to be grateful for it all,
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because at the end of the day, like like life
happens for you, doesn't happen to you, you know, And
so you have the ability and the power to make
life what you need to make it. You know, you
could make it great. You could also make it a
living hell, you know what I mean. So you have
that power like people who let things happen to them
and say, oh, man, like I'm the victim, And I
was like, no, bro, you're the only You're only the
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victim of your decisions, you know, because no matter what
you do to me, I still have the ability to
filter it and perceive it the way that I need
to perceive it in order for me to progress. Like
I'm never gonna let anybody do anything to me, say
anything to me that's going to cripple me, and you know,
you know, stunt my growth as a person. And the
reason why I know that is because I used to
let that do it, do it, do it to me,
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you know what I mean? And so that's what you
know for me. Mental health, I think it's it's it's
something that's important. I think some people look at it
as a as a reason to to do the things
they do. No, that's not what mental health is, you
know what I mean. Mental health is you understanding who
you are the best version of yourself, the best form
of yourself, and you're doing all that you can to
get there. You know, it's not an excuse to do
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stupid things, you know what I mean. That's not what
it is. You know what I mean, Like I don't
like what people say. Oh no, no, no, bro, That's
not what this is. It's understanding where I'm at and
where I need to get to and the things that
I need to do in order to get there, you know.
And so that's that's what I that I think mental
health is. It's it's it's for me to be the
best version of me to do the most good. You
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know what, what can I what version of me brings
out the most good? What what what version of me
brings out the most production? That's that's what I need
to do. That's that's the person to bless me?
Speaker 2 (41:11):
How can I be a blessing to others?
Speaker 5 (41:12):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Brother, So I'm still breathing. I'm still standing you. I said,
you're a family man. Now that you know, I can't
say like football is over because I don't think football
ever leaves the blood. Now you've got a legacy if
you're own, bro, Like I said, Mary, my dog got
two kids.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Now you know what I'm saying, Jit with the anset,
You know what I'm saying, what what? What? What's it now?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Because there's no off season now, you know, like me
all season, I'm flitting. I'm like, man, what else can
I do?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
What's what's next for you?
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Bro?
Speaker 7 (41:39):
Like?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Now now you don't drop the documentary. You probably got
to exactly produce a credit out of there.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
You ep do things? Now? What what else is it
in Utah for you?
Speaker 5 (41:49):
You know?
Speaker 3 (41:49):
What's what was amazing was when when you know, every
parent will will understand this, when my kids came into
my life, especially when my son, when my daughter came,
like I.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
Went to the dad phase that dad bought. I gained
a whole bunch of weight, and you.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Know I didn't realize that, Yeah, my daughter's fault.
Speaker 5 (42:09):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
You know, my princess softened me up, you know. But
then when my son came and with both of them,
immediately life took a turn from you was I immediately
wanted everything great in this world for my kids. I
wanted everything that was great in this world I wanted
for them. But the person that the first thing that
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needed to happen was I needed to be great, you know,
I needed to be the greatest version of me because
my kids aren't gonna remember what I tell them, but
they're going to remember what they saw me do. They're
going to remember how they saw Daddy work, how he
saw how they saw me walk through this life.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
And so it was I was two ninety.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Five h Jenny first that day that.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
I was.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Yes, yeah. So my wife decided.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
She told me, she was like, hey, when I'm done
giving birth to this boy, I wanted to do a
fitness show. I was like, okay, cool, she did fitness
shows before, so I was like, all right, what a
perfect what a perfect opportunity for me to get back
to shape. So she and I went on this fitness
journey and my goal was to get back down to
my plane with two thirty seven. I hit that, and
so it was all way of getting back to the
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best version of me.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
Now.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Throughout that process, I was doing a lot of public speaking.
Since the documentar came out, I met with a lot
of a lot of successful people and they just happened
to be in a private equity world and they're telling me, like,
why aren't you doing what we're doing He's like, there's
no reason why you shouldn't be doing what you know
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we're doing. You know, you have the network, you have
the abilities. You just need to make those decisions for yourself.
And I'm sitting over here and you tall, and I'm like, Okay,
Like we're living a comfortable life, but we're not living
the off season.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
Go to Spain life cam, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Like I want to. I want to. I want to
give that to my kids, you know what I mean.
I know Tony is out here in Utah and I
watch him how he moves and it inspires me. I'm like, man,
he's on a private jet everywhere, you know. I mean,
he just came back from the F the F one
race over there in Vegas. You know, I'm like, man,
I want to do that. You know, how can I
do that? Well?
Speaker 5 (44:20):
I started.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
I started to contact a lot of people, talk to
a lot of people, and you know, so we're in
the process of getting into the private equity work world.
And that's that's where I know that I can do
everything that I want to do. One I can be
present in my in my kid's life the way that
I want to too. I can be the example to
them of what I want life to be for them.
Right and three, I can build generational wealth. I can
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I can introduce my children and my children's children to
a thinking and a mentality and an approach to life
that it's going to get them to a place you
know where. Okay, daddy got the private jet. Now what
you're going to do? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (44:59):
So that hit different?
Speaker 3 (45:01):
You know what I'm saying. But that's the envelope that
I'm trying to.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Push, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Why not? Like? Why not? You know what I mean, Like,
it's all up to me, you know what I mean.
So it's up to me. Then you know I'm gonna
take it as far as I can take it. And then, son,
I taught you everything that I could learn, everything that
I've done.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Now you gotta take it, you know.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
What I mean.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
I can only get you so far. Bro.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
I took the took the Family of Spain, and take
was like, oh we could do that again. No, no, no, baby,
I took you to Spain for a reason. We lived
out there this all season. Because one, I wanted to
introduce you to a different world. Two I wanted I
want you to be inspired to learn Spanish. And three,
I want you to understand when you talk to your friends,
not everybody gets to live in Spain for two and
a half three months. You know, like when you like,
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it takes it takes a certain way of working, take
take a certain lifestyle to get to where you are.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
So you can't just be like, oh, I'm just gonna
live off my dad.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
No, baby, like why spout turn off. I'm gonna tell
you what my daddy told me. Hey, I'm doing okay. Yeah,
I don't know how you're gonna live, but I'm always.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Like yes's and that's shout out to pops like Steve
Steve Jordan.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
I was like, I remember, bro, I used to you know,
have a TJ Max budget. I had a checking book
that I had, and I was like, I'm living in
a big house, you know, five six fifty three fifty
four hundred square feet, which is huge to me. You know,
I'm going to all my friends places and they're sitting
on you know, a thousand square feet or twelve hundred
sqare feet twenty two hundred square feet.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
I don't know. I got a big house, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
And they're in Ja's and they're in you know, koogie
back in the Gap and they rocking, you know, Louis
Vautan belt Hey, like, I'm over here. I came to
my dad at like twelve, thirteen years old, once I
understood what materials things were, and I.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Was like, man, are we broke? I was like, Dad,
he did play lead for thirteen years. And he looked
at me and was like, nah, I'm doing really good. Actually.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
I was like, I'm an engineer, you know, I got
my degree from Brown, I'm still an engineer. I played
the lead for thirteen years, Like, I'm doing really well. Actually,
but you son, you're broke.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
And I was like, and that's with me, bro But
that's but that's the power of parenting, though, you understand,
because Dad could have took taken a totally different way.
You could have had you dressed to the nicest things and
enabled you, you know. And that's one thing that I
told my wife is I'll never do is I'll never
go and enable my kids like I'm going to do
with what you just said, Cam. I'm gonna take them
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around the world. I'm going to give them those experiences.
I'm going to open up their eyes to see, like, hey, man,
like your dreams. I'm going to show you what your
dream looks like. I'm not just going to tell you
write it on a paper. No, you want to do this, cool,
I'm going to take you over there so that you
can be in the buildings. You could see the environments,
you could talk to the people, you could smell, you
could taste, you could feel, you know, because then it
becomes a reality for you. Now it becomes a goal.
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Now you know what it looks like. Now you could
picture yourself in those places. So that's what it's all about.
For me, it was like, you ask me, what's next, Well,
what's next is the top? Okay, now we get to
this summit of this mountain. Well, there's always another mountain
to climb. Let's get to the top of that one.
There's always, you know, and it never stops, never stops.
And I don't ever wanted to stop from my kids,
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and and I'm always going to learn from you. I'm
always gonna learn from your dad. You know, your dad's
one of the best humans I ever met. Man. Every
time he saw me, he always said what's up, always
asked how I was doing. And you never if you
ever ran into your dad. You never knew that he
played in the league as long as he had had
that success. You'll never know because he's just so down
to earth. And then you meet you, You're like, oh,
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makes sense. You know it makes sense because you was
raised by that guy, you know what I mean? Like
your you run into The only way you would know
that your professional athlete is because you look like one.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
If you talk to you can't you can't hide these
shoulders fail. I'm not even in the camp camp frame. Now.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yeah, either you either know that or you know that
Cam a professional athlete because his big self coming out
of the small some small car sometimes. I remember he
was rolling the suv sometimes and he was parking the
parking lot you're supposed to not park at.
Speaker 5 (48:51):
You know, I was the only Cam can park over there,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (48:54):
But you know you never know, right, And that's what
I feel is the best thing that somebody could tell you, like,
is my interactions with you was on a human level,
one of the best interactions that I could ever have.
And they had nothing to do with your social status,
you know what I mean. And so all of those
people that I've met that's in this private equity world
that's pro billions. Like I met a dude who he
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runs a two hundred billion dollar firm, Bro, like with
a bee can, walking in with Louis bouton everything, like
I thought I was stunning with some Travis, some Trevors
Scott's like I was like a boy came run some
Louise left in a Lambeo truck. But like the conversations, Bro,
human and human, right, and he's just like, how can
I help you?
Speaker 5 (49:35):
How can well?
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Man, Clay, I want to do that, you know, I
want to get to that level so I can turn
back around and say, hey, bro, how can I help you?
You know, how can I get you here? You know
what I mean? Because that's that's what I want to
see everybody win, bro, And that's what you know, there's
people that helped me to win. I mean, I want
to see everybody win. So yeah, that's that's what's next.
That's what we're working on. That's what's current, you know,
that's that's the current events for the Techle family right now. Yeah,
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future events. Hopefully my son goes to Notre Dame. You know,
he already got a verbal offer this weekend. So you're
ten months old, can't your tens old? Coach? Coach Freeman
came over. Here's like you have an offer. I was like,
all right, coach, I'm gonna make sure he ready. Now.
Speaker 5 (50:15):
He ain't gonna play linebacker.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
You're gonna play quarterback because an autumn rules and football
right now. Protecting and that boy, you can't land on them.
You can't hit him above the shoulder, you can't hit
him below the knees.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
And once he releases, you better not touch them.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
You better not touch him, said sons, You're gonna play quarterback.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
I appreciate you tapping in, Bro. I'm gonna get you
out of here.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
I try and keep it around thirty five, but I
love having great people on here.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
It's been nothing but a pleasure keeping you on off
the edge with me. Bro, it's my ted tell you
know what I'm saying. Always, Bro, I appreciate you for
everything that you are.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
I'm gonna tap in shortly.
Speaker 5 (50:55):
I love you, brother always.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
This week has been, you know, a blessing man. First self,
shout out to my guy Manti for hitting the pod up.
You know, just talking about what it means to be
a good person. I get a human and he's one
of the best of them. You know, just going into
this Thanksgiving week, I mean, we're going to talk about
our favorite foods, right, Just let's get off the rattle off, right?
Speaker 2 (51:24):
What is your top three? Since I got to New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
It's mac and cheese, It's gumbo, and it's the seafood
stuff peppers. Now I think there's cornbread stuff and there's
some kind of stuff and I'm not sure what goes
into it. I have to order this because I have
yet to figured it out.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Before I have to leave New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
I'm going to figure out where or how to create
these right, fire top three?
Speaker 2 (51:44):
I need to know yours.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
That being said, you know, I just want to think
about Thanksgiving and how blessed I've been. It's why, you know,
every year I try and give back so much of
my time and efforts to Thanksgiving Week, trying to feed
my community.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
You know who's in need.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
This past week, you know, I teamed up my foundation
God Is Love, teamed up with Giving Hope Closet, Giving
Hope No Love Closet over there in New Orleans, the
East where they do a lot of great things, and
gave out hundreds of turkeys. You know, fam showed up,
kids got to give out turkeys. I just want I
just want them to know that it's okay to be a.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Blessing to another person. You know, I think in this
day and time.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
You know, we're grateful for everything that we have. Health, family, Uh,
the ability to see our you know, our loved ones.
You know my my wife's families coming in this week. Uh,
you know they're gonna do some great things on the
on the grill while I'm working, and I'm gonna get
to come home and to a great meal. Some families
don't have that, and it's it's just so important to
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give back and try to hopefully give a little bit
of joy on on a week that's meant for giving.
Speaker 5 (52:52):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Uh so shout out to.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
Everybody who who made the event great. You know Troy Douhon,
Miss Betty Tom, Miss you know Alicia's Sheridan Burchard. Uh,
you know the whole Saints. Tina backed up, showed up
for the media situation. You know, wifey Nikki Jordan's brought about.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
The kids through.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
You know Tank Glow, Niah Cha Cha Chanel. You know
they came through and they gave out turkeys, and my
couple of teammates showed up. Shout out to my dog,
Brian Razi, my little rook. I don't think he had
the choice in it, but he showed up. Just amazing
overall support. So it's always a blessing to be a blessing.
Just keep that in mind. Uh And for that, I
(53:33):
just want to wrap up the show. You know, I
appreciate everybody tuning in, tapping in. I hope you guys
have a phenomenal Thanksgiving. I hope the gumbo was hidden,
the you know, mac potato gravy shmacking, and I hope
that everybody's.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Mac and cheese and the cheeses or the mac and cheese.
Unless you're lactose intolerant.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Then I'm sorry because I'm gonna eat them, both of us,
and I'm gonna put my.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Little side plate away and probably eat again.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
Right, you know, after Sunday when I get back to
the crib, because we all know food hits the next day.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
But it can't be the next day. It's gotta be
the best day. It's gotta be Sunday after we beat
the balcons.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
Anyways, thank you'all for tuning in with me Cam Jordans on.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
My podcast Off the Ish. That's it, baby.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Go ahead tell your friends while you're sitting at the table, Hey,
tune in.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Tap in anywhere you get your podcasts. That's at Apple Podcasts,
I Heart Radio app. You know wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Tune in, tap in for Thanksgiving, Giving, thanks Being a Blessing.
Off the Edge with me Yo's cam jays Peece
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