October 1, 2025 • 42 mins
Just know if you're going to do anything in a group (vacations, dinners, projects), people are going to get irritable. Even if it's a success! That's just part of it. Nothing provokes rage faster than planning a group event with friends or family. Whether it's fly fishing on the coast or vacationing in an Italian villa, the following will emerge: the non-responder, the bossy decider, the one who wants to split the bill ten ways, and the one who always shows up unprepared (we're looking at you, Ebar).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are here in Palm Springs.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We are we made it. It's good times here.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
It is good times. This was the inception of this podcast.
Yeah happened here.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yep. Don't walk into a room and help people. You're happy,
absolutely locking nowhere. You can do that. Nobody needs that.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
No one wants to hear you flaunting and showboating your joy.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
If you thought that we do not get a helicopter
in Palm Springs, we still do.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
The chopper follows us everywhere, everywhere, everywhere. Yep, it's a
universal chopper. Let's drop into the show. Let's welcome to.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
The Rage Pod.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I'm with e Bar, I'm with the Tara Ericksson and
this is where we rage against the serene and all
the things in between.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Let's fucking rock. Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
This is the Palm Springs edition. We're here, of course,
with Frendy Wendy, who we have seduced to be on
camera this time. We're super excited about that. So Tara, later,
you're gonna give me a cunt of the Week. Yeah,
and just so everyone remembers, Cunt of the Week stands
for courageous, unapologetic, notorious.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Tenna the woman, but I got to give you guys
a cunt of the weak teaser.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You know in my theme, I guess is singers. You
know music. I always just think like music saves. This
is the soul and if y'all are it really does,
it does.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
And if you all raging out there, he I just
with him and they all they'll probably know.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
He's a big hint.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
We do not know who this is Freddy Wendy and
they do not know who this is.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
No, we don't tell each other.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
They count to the week, but I feel like they
know me so well they might know who I will say,
but no, he has saved me multiple times.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
The audience, Let it go, Let it go.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
He has saved me multiple times with his lyrics and
his songs. And I adore him and I'm just so
grateful for him as a musician. And we'll we'll get
into that, because if you don't know, you got to
get with the program.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I just wanted to say, Also, I envisioned doing this
podcast in like a bathing suit and like this like
long type of caftan thing, and it was going to
be so like Palm Springs. She forgot I forgot my
bathing suit. You yes, I I barely have an extra
(02:50):
set of clean underwear. That is what I'm that is
what I'm working with here. There's it was so the
opposite of the dream that you have for this.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So trigger warning.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
We may use words or phrases in this episode that
make you feel weird, but we don't go as far
as using the word moist.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
We're not animals.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Social Media after sex, that is so social media after sex.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Is so good copyright the Rage Pod.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Don't be a bit about it, or you've got to
come to us and be like, I got it from.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
The Rage Pod post what about that? Wait say that?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Oh my god, I love it post.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Coital social I love that.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I love that she thinks, you know what else, which
I do agree with her on like I feel like
I'm kind of neutral about coital like it doesn't. But
we both agree on brecky. That's something that that makes us.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
They really and.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I don't say it, but they were discussing it and
they were like, absolutely, that makes me.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Their bodies went.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Like, yeah, no, my boyfriend texted me just had brecky,
and I wrote back to him, don't ever say.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
That again, she wrote, But no, you know what, you're
a back to you said, I just I'm about to
block you.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Oh that's funny.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I mean it is like up there, it's almost like
not I feel like pooky is so ridiculous, but like
I would never like and unless it was ironically, but
I feel like it's almost worse than pooky because pooky
is so like no one's actually using that.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Give me the context of how someone called.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Someone there there there, you know, their boyfriend girlfriend, Like
it's no one's doing that, But it's in that world.
I know who's saying, who's saying.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I know a couple of people that are saying it,
that are saying brecky.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Are they saying it like earnestly or ironically?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Not ironically? That's just weird. But are you sure they're
not saying it like let's go get brecky. But still
that's annoying.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, say that.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I feel like even.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Ironically it doesn't work anymore. It doesn't work anymore, right,
say it's not funny I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I mean, if I were to ever use the word braki,
which nobody around me uses that word, you guys brought
it up this weekend.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I would ask if something was wrong with you to
what's happening, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, you would, you would to quote Frozen two.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I would say, Oh, it's like, oh, you're you're wearing
mother's shawl. You're you always wear mother's shawl when something's wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
My god, that's you guys want to go.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Get Brett never.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You know that I'm dying inside if I use the
word bracky.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You know another word that like, it is a joke
in our family that for some people, Oh that's actually
my sister, panties will send her to the fucking moon.
She cannot stand. So, of course, because of the way
me and my cousins are, then we proceeded to use
panties like in every single all the time, and then
(06:00):
we put it in like like Christmas cards, like we
use it like in an abundance, which I don't even
like use that.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Word me neither, but I love that you guys, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Well it's just rained down panties.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Well, her life, you know, and when you won't want
me to bring it up, but like her boyfriend's trying
to just sensitize.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Her to like poop and ship and like so he.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Says it being to we, but we haven't gone as
savage as he has no Well we've gotten no progress.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
So we are here. We are literally we're at squawan.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
We are counting on him. We were we're literally putting
the hall of our cards. I agree, like we are
just fingers crossed. You can do it.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Let's face it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
If you're the one given or the big oh, you're
the one that's going to make the progress. Like we're
over here just going like the big oh. We're over here,
just going like I poop today. Maybe she'll hear it
and be fine with it, but no, lick.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
With some of my friends will be like will fall
and be like, oh my god, I had the biggest
blowout and like that would that would send?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That would chance.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
If it's done right, it is this like kind of
fun like thing that you can share with the people
that are close in your life, Like there is a
like uh an opportunity for shared comedic experience. But I
get it. If it is just this thing that like
makes you feel gross.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I don't know why.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
And the only other person in my life, my friend Melissa,
same thing.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
So you guys can bond over that.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
We are Yeah, it's we.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Just can't handle it.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Like ship for you guys, is like Brecky for us.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, I have the breaky issue too.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
No, I'm saying, like the way you feel about for
her feel about ship, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, yeah yeah, although I feel like shit and poop
is way stronger for her than Brecky.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Oh sure, the moon for And that's why I told her,
I said, you.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Have trauma about it. Obviously this had to start in childhood.
We need to talk about it in therapy, and we
needed to sensitize you. Okay, So and that was like,
we don't have to talk about it, but I'm going
to tell you, okay, it's it's Can we talk about
childhood trauma poop?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Can we talk about it for a second? Because I
do think and we all have this, right, yeah, I
think that it's like undiscovered like internalized sexism that you like.
I don't think it was anything that you would actively
because right, I'm supposed to poop. She's kind of where
(08:34):
that comes from. Was a little bit right, you.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Were digging deep. I was not expecting this for this episode,
and I am feeling very uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
You're saying, God, it's a breakthrough. That was amazing, Like
how honest she got just then that's what we need
from everybody might be, but I think we all have that.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Here's here's I'll give you one that she and I
have that you don't have, right, Like Wendy will be
free as a bird and go right in her pool
in the nude, no problem, totally.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, but we don't. We don't.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
We know.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
My first thought when you said you forget your bathing suit,
I was like, oh, who cares?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Just fucking exactly, And I don't know if I would
do it, And so that's my own ship, right. My
daughter is also like, again, that's like some weird gender
ship because I don't think a guy would think twice
about it.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
They really don't, and I know you wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
When I'm saying, like, so we all have our things
that like this conditioning that you know.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I think I was literally born that way because my
mom said even as a child, I was constantly stripping
my clothes and just being maked.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
That's that's great. You sound very French, although I know
you're not.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I said this before. I was like, that's so not
what I thought you were going to say. I'll take it, though,
we will.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's ready to get out of this
calftan and.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
How freeing is that that, Like it's just not something
that if I forgot my bathing soit I'd be like
I'll just wear my shitty underwear and like my bra.
Like I don't think I've ever been skinny dipping in
my life.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
What I don't think I have.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
It's definitely like a dunger. But I feel too body
conscious now really.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, but no, I mean I would my I do
feel I think more body conscious in just being getting
a little bit older and being like, oh, there's like
weight that's kind of around my tummy that's like hard
to lose. And I'm not saying this is like stupid
problems that like I'm fine, but I'm it is like
(10:44):
I don't want people to be like what the fuck
are you complaining about? Like I'm fine, but you can
understand that everybody has their own shit.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You brought up something that like what I've always been
conscious of in terms of like being in bathing suits
and being naked is like being so white. Yeah, like
you're when you're so white, like your body can't hide anywhere.
It's there, right, It's also just like like whoa, it's blinding,
you know what I mean. But that's like one of
the things. Yes, I've been skinny, but I wasn't like,
(11:13):
you know, doing it all the time.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Of course as a bird, as I would have loved,
because people can look at you and go, she's.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Perfect, she's she's the body that I want. She's skinny,
she's got her she can wear a crop top whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
But my point being is that, like everybody has their
own issues, but like you, you just have to remember that,
like when people look at you, they're not really thinking
all those things.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
They're mostly concerned about them.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Themselves and their legs.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
And maybe cell you think about them. And I have kinkles?
Do my elbows look weird? Are they dry? Are they like?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Do I have a weird mole?
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
It's like exactly, and I have so many So we
all have our shit.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Hers is shit, literally it does. It's But yeah, I
think it would be interesting to like maybe investigate that
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I have a challenge for all of us.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
How about we, Oh, I let you openly talk about
the subject while we're here this weekend, and I will
discuss it as well.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Oh no, I know what she's gonna say.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
It's nice skinny dip.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
By the way, skinny dipping with like your two friends
at night. It's so not a big deal.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
And I know it's.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
A big deal for us. It's totally easy. Like where
does that even come from?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Because you know, like when I went to Olympic Spa
or we spa, the one that you guys like, and
I was, I was, this was like ten years.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Ago, and they were like, okay, go take you off
to be naked. You have to when you have to
wait to the locker rooms, you have to be naked.
And they were like okay. And the host helped me
and she was like, okay, take off your clothes and I.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Was like, okay, okay, this is fine, and I did.
And then you you walk into the spa and everyone
there is naked, and it's just.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Like nobody can naked.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Nobody, nobody cares very everyone very buck naked, and nobody
gives an act.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
The strutting that's like not, that's effortless. It's not like
if that women are trying to strut, they're just strutting
because they're they honestly too, it's probably because like they
feel safe, yeah, and in this like locker room of
all women.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
They're like, Oh, I don't have to worry. I'm naked,
No big deal.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
And not even in the locker room because it's like
I've been naked in a YMCA and other there's older women, younger,
they're already naked.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
This is like when you walk into the spa. There's
a huge pool, a cold plunge, but there's no man
in it. There's no men. But I'm saying that, like
you think it's different though than the yms. I just
want to clear.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Very because you're in the locker room and you're like
versus like you are not only like where like how
it's different. There's a huge pool and it and a
cold plunge and a sauna. I know reason everyone in
there is naked. Yeah, yeah, you do not do that
at the you have a towel on the only time
I go to see naked in the locker room. This
is like a thing that I'm doing where I was like, oh,
(14:07):
I can get in this poll. Everybody's naked, Okay, Nobody
seems to be like staring at me or weird about it,
and like they'll just sort of like look at you
and smile.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Like because maybe they could tell that I was like, I.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Kind of don't know what I'm doing here. And then
when you get the massage, they just go they call
your number and they're like, came here and you are
just everybody there is naked on a butt on like
five tables. They splash water on you, they give you
a body scrub, They're like, flip over, and then they
want you do not fuck around it. They don't shit,
they don't.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
They don't even have any time for any like body consciousness. No,
They're like, we're gonna slap on some scrub and it's
gonna feel that you like you lost like fives of
your skin when we're dealing with you.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
It is funny how different I think maybe people are
just raised differently where I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I don't know what it is, you know what it is.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
It's interesting because it's like in some households, maybe it's
your point era, like it's oh, bodily functions were totally
cool with this is normal, but sex is not. And
I think, yeah, for women, we definitely, I think all
of it. I think we need to be a bit
more free about and forgiving and accepting and but it
(15:24):
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It's different things.
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Speaker 1 (16:00):
We are going to talk about on this episode. We
all know that when you say the words group project,
that usually solicits a groan.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
But also just.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Any kind of group planning, group vacations, there's there's some
shit there to unpack. There's everyone's got some issue with
something that involves a group. Absolutely, and we here are
on a group vacation in Palm Springs, So we thought,
what a great thing to talk about.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
No no, no, no, no no no no.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
You've reached the Rage hotline.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Please leave us a message. All right, everybody, We got
a couple of voicemails this week.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Love it here we go, let's bring it in Scott here.
Speaker 10 (16:43):
So my thing with group invites is I want details.
I got a guy that invited me to something tonight
and he's like, just having to get together at my house,
come by at eight? What is this guy together? How
do you ask who's going to be there without it
being obvious that you're trying to figure out if you
don't want to go or cool enough people are going
to be there?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (17:01):
Wow, are you gonna want to go? And then I'm like, honest, hey,
why don't I bring Steve? You know, Steve might ask
me what exactly is happening tonight? So what could I
tell him? The response is just having some people over? Okay,
what do we do? What do we what?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
It's not enough for Scott?
Speaker 10 (17:18):
How much do I ask obvious that I'm trying to
decide if it sounds fun?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Oh god, I would be like, I guess at that
point you just have to be honest, right, you have
to be.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Like, yeah, got it? Like anybody there that I know?
I don't know? I would absolutely ask that.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
I totally like who's going, who's going to be there?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
What's the vibe? Yeah, it's parking? Is their food is
or drink?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
What is going on?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, that makes sense for you, Frendy Wendy. I feel
like there's a like there's a gradient, right, like there's
like a spectrum. I feel like what he just described
was very vague details and then there's like super planned
out right.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Like the friend might be offended if he said, yeah, like,
am I not a nudding? Am I not an or?
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Or?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Me and my friends are like with my group.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, they have to pass some sort of tests.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
But I think you can be like, oh, who's going?
Like that's a fun that's a normal question to ask, Like, well.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
What if it was like when I'm like, oh, we're
having some friends over, do you want to come? And
like what if I like just wouldn't reveal that.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I would just be like, yeah, who's coming?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
And I'd be like, I don't know, I think maybe
this person, but maybe not.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
That would that just be like an immediate past.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
No, definitely not okay.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I think that what is normal which people normally do
They go, hey, do you want to come to this thing?
Just so you know Kat who you know and blah
blah blah will be there too. They always throw out
a couple names of people that I know that besides
them to go and also you know a couple people
be there like blah blah blah blah blah blah. It
must be maybe with Scott is that this this friend
(18:59):
must not be a close friend because it may be like, Oh,
you're an acquaintance kind of a friend that I rarely see,
and like, who's a f do you hang out with?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Right? Like, exactly is going to be there?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Where? If you guys invited me something and I was like, oh,
you were inviting other people, it wouldn't matter because I'd
want to come to be with you guys.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Exactly. Yeah, but really who remember that?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
That one caller was like I have to go pick
up Samantha, who we need to know about. But now
will be a repeated reference on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Totally all right, here we go. Here is our next caller.
Speaker 11 (19:37):
Hey Ragers calling from up in the Central Coast area.
Just thought i'd call and share what drives me a
little crazy about about vacationing with friends. I have this
one friend, Bill. He's a nice enough guy, but he
is a freaking control freak. Okay, and I'll give you
(19:57):
an example. We he he and his wife, Me and
my then girlfriend went on a fishing trip, so excited
to go fly fishing for the first time. Went to
Lake Shasta, which is quite a long drive, and we
get there and Bill just had to control everything about
the entire weekend, where and when we fish, what we
(20:18):
had for dinner, when it was time for bed. It
was just kind of ridiculous, and it just kind of
served as a reminder to to be a little bit
more careful as to who I invite on group outings.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
That's it.
Speaker 11 (20:33):
I love your show, Ray.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
John, Oh, thank you so much. I love that.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Bill needs to calm the fuck down.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'm here.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well, first of all, the fact that you even get
me to go fly fishing, like I should be getting
a parade, totally. I should not be pressured to be
fishing a certain amount and at a certain time in
somewhere like vacation group get togethers, like people should be
having a good time, not feeling like they have like
their showing up for fucking work.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I feel like you're focusing on the wrong thing if
you are in a group. Right, Bill's planning to fishing.
Maybe he provided the tools and he's like, we're going
to go fishing at this time?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Great? But what time you go to bed? When he
controls what time we go? Do I miss? Let me
go to bed? You wait? Wait? Yes, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I never want to go on a trip.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
With Bill ever invited.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I hear you're bearing the lead. I missed that part. Sorry,
I was probably thinking about what we were getting for dinner.
I'm with you, but like, holy shit, I would be like,
fucking Bill, you do not own me. You do not
do you understand? Do you understand what my like processes
for going to sleep these days?
Speaker 11 (21:49):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
You think I can just finish that whenever I want.
We have seventeen steps steps to our regimen, okay, both
of us. An appeasing Bill is not one of them.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Okay, I'm with you, but also we're on vacation. If
I want to fucking rage still three.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
Am, go to bed, Bill, I would go fishing with
the people who want to fishne don't tell me what
time to fucking go to bed, and I don't want
to hear it.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
You do not come knocking at my doors. We're going fishing.
Get the hell out of here, or you vacation? Who
are you?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I'm not getting up at five to fucking.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Fix your bait.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Thank you, or however you tell the people if you
want to go fishing, We're getting up at five. Whoever's
up by five, come with us. That's what a respectful,
considerate person, not a sociopath would do.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Also, you're not gonna get a lot of people to
go on your fishing trips if you're coming at it
with this.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
If I was ever on a vacation where somebody told
me when to go to bed, I would like immediately
go home exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
I would like, not like and I'm so cute furious,
Like I feel like I want to like call him back,
but we won't, but like maybe we will.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
We'll ask him, well, ask him literally pay I know.
Let's have Bill in the pod.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
And like, do you literally tell your friends, Okay, it's bedtime,
but like you do they have to go in their room?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Do they have a TV in there? Are they allowed
to stay up? Why what happened? Is he just suggesting
it or does he make it out?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I know what's happening. I know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Tell me this is.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
The heart of it. Bill's got expectations for this fantastic
fishing trip where everyone is like fishing and having a
great time. Everyone's like getting up early and they're getting
their best fish. And the only way to do that
is to get It's like for people to get sleep
and for people to do the thing. And this is
(23:47):
the fucking problem you are dealing with people, Bill, you
can't have those kinds of expectations.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
But he didn't say.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
That it was a fishing trip vacation, not the guy
who called I mean, that's what Bill made.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
That's what it was.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
No, but that's what Bill is thin. It's the fucking
expectation game. You're gonna lose it, especially like with a
group vacation.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, like you aren't.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
You're I think this is something that we will get
into later when we're I guess when we're talking more
about this. But if you want to learn how to
kill unrealistic expectations, have an itinerary for more than three
people on a vacation, and that shit is gonna get
blown out of the water an hour one.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
You have to go with people that you feel overly
comfortable with that. If you just go I think I'm
just gonna sleep and they go, Okay, we'll come back later,
we'll hit you up like.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, just to be a thing.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I had this like, oh I gotta take this call, guys,
I'm so sorry or whatever it is, and like, listen,
our good friend Kristen As has stayed with me. The
key to longevity is flexibility. True, and I think there's
some real.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Truth to that. Mm hmm. And look, Bill, I.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Think you could use some flexibility. And to the caller,
I think you're flexible enough. I think it's smart to
be judicious. Well, those were some juicy some juicy callers.
Those were some juicy voicemails about some of the angst
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over group vacations and planning group planning, group vacations, group dinners.
A lot can go wrong fast. What I found with
group stuff is usually like somebody emerges as the leader,
someone becomes the decider. Yeah, and well I think you
need that. It's not always the right person. And maybe
(25:44):
at points, instead of being one person, it's like you're
the decider for part of it, and then maybe we
bring in other people, like we passed the baton.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
So we just talked about with Bill.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Bill was the decider and Bill made some bad decisions.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Like the decide honestly should be like are we cool
with that or do we have any other thoughts? You
have to open up the floor you've got.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
If you're going to be the planner, you've got to
figure out like, hey, I want to be the planner
because there's certain things that I want to control, But
then I want to carve out flexibility for the different interests, priorities,
needs of all the people involved.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Right, you know, and like I feel like, you know,
Bill had no problem being the decider.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
He had zero, but we we wouldn't always make if.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I just if we would never any of us would
go we're going here and then here and not say
how do you feel about that? What do you guys
want to do? Do you want to stay in tonight?
Do you want to go out tonight? Do we feel
like none of us would ever just go we're gonna
go get sushi and then we're gonna get drinks here
and then we're gonna do this like it would be fun.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I would not mind it.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I like when people, yeahs are probably too much like
by committee total, so then things don't happen and we
end up on the couch watching you know, reality catfish
shows two in the morning, because she's also fine, but
I mean, I do think that there's a happy medium, right,
like if you're.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Too much like what do you want to do? I
don't care, what do you want to do? I don't care.
I don't know, Like I'm cool with whatever, Like then
nothing somebody else. And then the other side of it is.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
You get a bill and then people are being told
when to go to bed and that they have to
fucking fish.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Right, and you're like, we didn't sign up for this, right,
Like maybe we we're like, oh, well, we'll.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Head out at like I don't know, eleven am, see
if we catch a trout, But then we're also going
to like hang out, right, maybe just change go to
a restaurant, have some beers back at the place.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I don't think that was on Bill's agenda.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I think if you go with a group, you have
to go under the assumption that everybody can do what
they want.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yes, And I have to say a big one.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
I have to give it up to my ex husband.
He is a great itinerary maker. His his Italy itinerary
is legendary and we all fucking made fun.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Of him for it.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
It's literally four pages and he did it without chatchept,
which God bless him, but he was so detailed with it,
and as much as we were making it was like, okay,
well this is good, like this is a good guide
of everything we could do or want to do and whatever.
But it was the type of vacation where it was like, oh,
we're gonna go bike to this town. Cool, I'm gonna
lay by the pool for the rest of the day
(28:22):
and read my book, like you could just go do
what you wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
But it was so great.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
We did have somebody that laid everything out for us
and it's.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Your fucking adventure, which is exactly how it should be
on vacation.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And look sometimes like my sisters a really good planner,
And what I love that she does is just say like, hey,
I thought this was this cool thing that we could do.
If we all want to do it, we do need
to like commit to it because we need.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Tickets by this date.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Right, We don't have to all do it, but if
we do want to do it, if you think that
you might want to do it, Like there's certain things
do require planning, but I like the approach of like, look,
no one's expecting you to say yes to this, but
if you do want to like there's some organization that
goes into it. Yeah, because on the other side, you know,
(29:15):
what is a real fucking like rat trigger is when
people organize and they offer these options, they offer a
lot of details, and then it's fucking crickets.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Oh nobody responds.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Nobody responds, and that person did a lot, They did
a lot of work, and it's like, do you just
think it's magically going to come together? If you don't
know that is absolutely fine. A simple response of Hey,
I'm really figuring out like my schedule, my finances, whatever
it may be. I think people are reasonable and they
(29:49):
understand I don't know yet, but I'm working on it
and I will get back to you.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Absolutely you.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Owe someone who put it in that much in that
email to try to get this event to go down,
and for you to ignore that, I'd be like, you're
kind of a fucked up friend, Like well.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Because it's like right and work if you just ignore.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Even if you're like, hey, I need more time, but
you never say anything like, hey, I'm working on it.
I might need a little bit more time, like eventually,
like that has real consequences.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
You just need the acknowledgment just to acknowledge it.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, so that person complain like, Okay, we don't know
on that person. We know on these people. Maybe we
have like a you know, a drop dead date right
like by this date, I'm going to make reservations for
this many people, and if those other people end up
saying that they want to come, we will figure out
like either hey see if they're still open, like, if
(30:43):
they're still availability, great, and if not, like we'll just.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Do separate things that night, like exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I also feel like this idea that everybody has to
do the same thing the same thing on an extended
group vacation, it is not really dick, Nope, it is.
It is causes way too much pressure, way too much stress.
And it's like, look, so if you don't want to
do the thing, cool, we're still going to go do
(31:08):
the thing.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Awesome, you do your own thing. I'm sure we're going
to do something else together because yeah, for a week
or whatever, it is like we have the whole day
to split it up. If you want to go to
the pool and we want to go to the movie.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
And somebody else wants to take a fucking nap, but hey,
we did all come here together, so we'll all go
to dinner together, right, Can we all decide on that
That's fine at least like one thing a day if
we want to get people together that like we all
did come on this together, that's fine, But like to
take up the whole day, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Not, because again, fucking Bill comes back to expectations. You
have the expectation, like, let's say, I feel like this
Italy trip was like at least like twelve people, there's twenty.
If you have the expectation that twenty people are going
to do the same group activity for more than twenty
(31:58):
four hours, you're out of your fucking mind. You are like,
that is Lord of the flies in five minutes?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Like, just be stoked that you got twenty eight people
with twenty eight people, twenty eight people to travel internationally,
and if you see all of those people in one setting,
one time during those one or two weeks whatever, it
is like, that's a miracle.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
In my mind.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I agree, And like, did anything go south on that
trip really bad with the group or was it all
pretty joyful?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It was all pretty joyful.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
But we all came together from separate places and separate
clusters of people where the plan was and this is
kind of how we did it, where it was like
we are getting this villa, these are the days that
we're going to be here. You are invited. Let us
know if you can make it kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
It's perfect.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
And so it wasn't this like I can do this week,
I can do this, I can do this, Like no,
first we're going can you come?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:56):
And it was very so everybody traveled in separately and
all arrived there together and we stayed there for like
maybe like five days or whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
But because he had everything planned out did it's like
everybody felt pretty good.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
You know what was stressful stress getting into it.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Was planning the room assignment.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Oh, it's like planning seats at a wedding and not
in having the blueprints, but trying to determine who would remember,
being very stressed about it because it was it was
my friend.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
It was me and my friend's birthday together group birthday,
so she had some of her friends, I had some
of my friends, and then we had some of our
friends together. And as a stress villa was like four
different apartments, one big building.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And how in the apartments were like what how many
two bedrooms?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
The living room pull out and then there was a casida,
so we had some people in the casida and.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Then you and I would have wanted to.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
And yeah, it was like who, where's everybody to go?
And these people are only two people, but these people
are four people, and it was a little stressful. But
Maria and I like got it together like right before
we arrived. But I remember that being stressful.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
There was one reality show, like at Real Housewive showed
that I watched only to further ingratiate with my hairstylist Andrew,
and I remember like like room assignments and where the
where the women would choose, Like that was like immediate eruption.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah, we watched that episode together because Meredith needed the bath, right,
Like why the fuck does Meredith like have to have
the master bedroom has a I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
No, I think that was right.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
There were so many women and there were so many
needs that I can't keep track of it all. But
Meredith was definitely one of those women and she had
to have a math ave and so then it was
like where is the bath?
Speaker 8 (34:50):
Right?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Like not all the rooms have a bath, but like
that was enough material for like an entire episode was
just these room.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Assignments, and I love it.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
I mean, like, for me, if I was going on
a group thing, I'd be like, I need my own
space to recover, Like I at least need my own
room where I could close the door and be like
I just shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
But that would just be I would everybody who knows
me would know that.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Let's talk about the group birthday dinner.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Oh jeez, whoys.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Okay, here's the thing. I feel like this is very
easily decided. This is not even to me a conversation.
If you are going out to a group birthday and
I get it, some people they don't drink, or they
don't have dessert, or they don't like just know you
are going to be paying more than what you consume
(35:40):
because everyone is going to cover the birthday person.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
And if you don't want to do that, then do
you either don't go or you go early.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I'm just trying to come up with some other alternative, right,
I just wouldn't go where I would go. You like,
go early and you set it up where you have
a separate tab, yeah, and you make sure that like, hey,
I'm only going to have like a soda and I'm
not going to eat, and then you still contribute to
the birthday dinner because you're there, but then you still
limit how much you're paying how much otherwise, Like I
(36:11):
don't even see this as a discussion, but.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
It is such a big pain point.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
It is or everyone that's going out to the dinner
needs to be on the same page of like we're
going to itemize the bill, correct, you know, but even
still that's a real fuck you to the waiter or
the waitress, Like if you're going to do that, then
someone still needs to pay, and then everybody else one car.
Don't be a fucking animal, yeah, and say can.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
You split it through.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
God? And then it's like if you do that too,
you're kind of like now you're making the whole night
a wet blanket, Like you're the wet blanket of the
night because you're doing that, you mean, because you're throwing
your because.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Now you're like trying to like, well, actually I only
got like a soup and.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
A solid No, you know what I mean, you do
not bring it up at the fucking table. What you
do if you're that deranged about it, you walk up,
you get out from the table, you go over to
the waiter a waitress, and you say, hey, look, I
know this is so annoying. I only got this in this.
(37:15):
Is there any way you can charge me for that? Now,
here's my card. You take care of it behind the scenes.
Don't open your mouth of the group table and make
everybody uncomfortable about it, because now you're opening it up,
and now everybody has to make you feel better about No.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
No, no, it's okay. We'll take care of it. We'll make
sure they're only tired for a coca and a soup. No,
so grew up. We don't have top your shit.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
You know what I'm thinking of this person dates Bill.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Oh my god, the fishing for a Chovyes, together, those
little bitches.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Why is she saying anchovy? I know this is what
you've done to her?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
This is get done.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I'm assuming it's anchovy like you're giving You're not giving bass,
you're not giving trout, you're giving any with your controlling vibes.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Okay, So, Terry, you have.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
A cunt of the week for us and just for
the listeners and watchers to remember.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
Kind of he stands for courageous, unapologetic, notorious kind of
a woman slash.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Whatever, slash say them slash and you said you could
wait last time.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah. It could be a guitar, could be a tree, Yeah,
any any of it now.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
My cunt of the week is Noah kN know.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
By six season.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
It's stick Season like that was so if you don't
know him, stick Season, blew him up.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
That's the song.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
And he is from a tiny Vermont town of like
only a thousand people.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
But and he's dubbed as like folk Malone because and
they've they've performed together.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
They have yes, because of his mix of emotional songwriting
and humor. Which has really grabbed me the most is
like the way that he writes stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
But mainly he is a mental health advocate.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
He's open about his struggles with anxiety and depression, which
I really appreciate, and it comes through in his song lyrics.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
He often uses his platform and.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Lyrics to normalize conversations around mental health, which I think
we need more of. His honesty has earned him a
very loyal and supportive fan base, which I am there for.
He also loves his dogs like his His album cover
is Him and his two Dogs, and I made as
sure when I went to that concert that it says
(39:37):
and at the end of it all, I just hope
that your scars heel because I love that that phrase.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
But also he.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Wrote a song that's just it's just call your mom
about someone who's like, I hope you know that because
you're you're thinking about you're high and you're thinking about
taking your own your being unlive because we can't say
I don't think we can say it on podcasts. I
just I'm just gonna call it un alive. That he's like,
(40:07):
I'll call your mom, and like he talks about that,
but he also talks about another song, orange Juice, about like,
you know, come over, we bought orange juice for the kids,
but we know you're sober.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
We're just happy you could make it kind of a thing.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
He's just so open and such a good writer when
when it comes to that, I'm not giving him enough justice,
but I'm saying that when you listen to his songs,
it touches me in a lot of different ways. When
it comes to it, does it does? It really does?
Because you know, again, like everybody struggles I think with
(40:44):
anxiety or depression. They've been in dark places and to
have someone sing about that really honestly. Even his song
New Perspective is about him on the couch with him
and his therapist and arguing about Jesus and other things
and him being on you know, prozac and drugs, and
how he doesn't cry anymore.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
But I forget what the other lyric is like.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
He just talks about all of it, and I love
it because that is let's loop it back to being vulnerable,
being open, being honest. This is why when you go
to watch him any of his concerts. He was nominated
for one of the Best New Artists in the Grammy's
in twenty twenty four. Now, but listen, if you look
at his concerts on camera. When we went to the
(41:28):
Greek it was sold out. It was one of his
very first concert in la If.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
I look at any concert on YouTube because I often
watched them because I just want to hear his songs.
There are people that are there that it's like Michael Jack.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
They are crying, They're singing every word, and they are
crying because they're going this person understands me. I've gone
through this, I've gone through that, and they're like, he
gets it, and he's singing about it. It's like he's
looking into your soul and he understands the dark sides
of it that other people don't want to talk about.
And there's these girls that are just holding each other
(42:00):
and they're singing and they're crying, and they're like, I
wish I could say all the lyrics right now, but
that is what he gives us, and I appreciate nol
Coon for that. Noah con you are our count of
the week, We see you.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
That concludes our Palm Springs edition of the Rage Pod.
Thanks for hanging with us. Tune in every Wednesday for
new episodes. Wherever you get your podcasts. A deep breath
in rage, scream into your pillow.
We are here in Palm Springs.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We are we made it. It's good times here.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
It is good times. This was the inception of this podcast.
Yeah happened here.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yep. Don't walk into a room and help people. You're happy,
absolutely locking nowhere. You can do that. Nobody needs that.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
No one wants to hear you flaunting and showboating your joy.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
If you thought that we do not get a helicopter
in Palm Springs, we still do.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
The chopper follows us everywhere, everywhere, everywhere. Yep, it's a
universal chopper. Let's drop into the show. Let's welcome to.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
The Rage Pod.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I'm with e Bar, I'm with the Tara Ericksson and
this is where we rage against the serene and all
the things in between.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Let's fucking rock. Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
This is the Palm Springs edition. We're here, of course,
with Frendy Wendy, who we have seduced to be on
camera this time. We're super excited about that. So Tara, later,
you're gonna give me a cunt of the Week. Yeah,
and just so everyone remembers, Cunt of the Week stands
for courageous, unapologetic, notorious.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Tenna the woman, but I got to give you guys
a cunt of the weak teaser.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You know in my theme, I guess is singers. You
know music. I always just think like music saves. This
is the soul and if y'all are it really does,
it does.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
And if you all raging out there, he I just
with him and they all they'll probably know.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
He's a big hint.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
We do not know who this is Freddy Wendy and
they do not know who this is.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
No, we don't tell each other.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
They count to the week, but I feel like they
know me so well they might know who I will say,
but no, he has saved me multiple times.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
The audience, Let it go, Let it go.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
He has saved me multiple times with his lyrics and
his songs. And I adore him and I'm just so
grateful for him as a musician. And we'll we'll get
into that, because if you don't know, you got to
get with the program.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I just wanted to say, Also, I envisioned doing this
podcast in like a bathing suit and like this like
long type of caftan thing, and it was going to
be so like Palm Springs. She forgot I forgot my
bathing suit. You yes, I I barely have an extra
(02:50):
set of clean underwear. That is what I'm that is
what I'm working with here. There's it was so the
opposite of the dream that you have for this.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So trigger warning.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
We may use words or phrases in this episode that
make you feel weird, but we don't go as far
as using the word moist.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
We're not animals.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Social Media after sex, that is so social media after sex.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Is so good copyright the Rage Pod.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Don't be a bit about it, or you've got to
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Speaker 2 (03:25):
The Rage Pod post what about that? Wait say that?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Oh my god, I love it post.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Coital social I love that.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I love that she thinks, you know what else, which
I do agree with her on like I feel like
I'm kind of neutral about coital like it doesn't. But
we both agree on brecky. That's something that that makes us.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
They really and.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I don't say it, but they were discussing it and
they were like, absolutely, that makes me.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Their bodies went.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Like, yeah, no, my boyfriend texted me just had brecky,
and I wrote back to him, don't ever say.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
That again, she wrote, But no, you know what, you're
a back to you said, I just I'm about to
block you.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Oh that's funny.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I mean it is like up there, it's almost like
not I feel like pooky is so ridiculous, but like
I would never like and unless it was ironically, but
I feel like it's almost worse than pooky because pooky
is so like no one's actually using that.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Give me the context of how someone called.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Someone there there there, you know, their boyfriend girlfriend, Like
it's no one's doing that, But it's in that world.
I know who's saying, who's saying.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I know a couple of people that are saying it,
that are saying brecky.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Are they saying it like earnestly or ironically?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Not ironically? That's just weird. But are you sure they're
not saying it like let's go get brecky. But still
that's annoying.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, say that.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I feel like even.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Ironically it doesn't work anymore. It doesn't work anymore, right,
say it's not funny I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I mean, if I were to ever use the word braki,
which nobody around me uses that word, you guys brought
it up this weekend.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I would ask if something was wrong with you to
what's happening, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, you would, you would to quote Frozen two.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I would say, Oh, it's like, oh, you're you're wearing
mother's shawl. You're you always wear mother's shawl when something's wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
My god, that's you guys want to go.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Get Brett never.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You know that I'm dying inside if I use the
word bracky.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You know another word that like, it is a joke
in our family that for some people, Oh that's actually
my sister, panties will send her to the fucking moon.
She cannot stand. So, of course, because of the way
me and my cousins are, then we proceeded to use
panties like in every single all the time, and then
(06:00):
we put it in like like Christmas cards, like we
use it like in an abundance, which I don't even
like use that.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Word me neither, but I love that you guys, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Well it's just rained down panties.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Well, her life, you know, and when you won't want
me to bring it up, but like her boyfriend's trying
to just sensitize.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Her to like poop and ship and like so he.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Says it being to we, but we haven't gone as
savage as he has no Well we've gotten no progress.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
So we are here. We are literally we're at squawan.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
We are counting on him. We were we're literally putting
the hall of our cards. I agree, like we are
just fingers crossed. You can do it.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Let's face it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
If you're the one given or the big oh, you're
the one that's going to make the progress. Like we're
over here just going like the big oh. We're over here,
just going like I poop today. Maybe she'll hear it
and be fine with it, but no, lick.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
With some of my friends will be like will fall
and be like, oh my god, I had the biggest
blowout and like that would that would send?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That would chance.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
If it's done right, it is this like kind of
fun like thing that you can share with the people
that are close in your life, Like there is a
like uh an opportunity for shared comedic experience. But I
get it. If it is just this thing that like
makes you feel gross.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I don't know why.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
And the only other person in my life, my friend Melissa,
same thing.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
So you guys can bond over that.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
We are Yeah, it's we.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Just can't handle it.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Like ship for you guys, is like Brecky for us.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, I have the breaky issue too.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
No, I'm saying, like the way you feel about for
her feel about ship, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, yeah yeah, although I feel like shit and poop
is way stronger for her than Brecky.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Oh sure, the moon for And that's why I told her,
I said, you.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Have trauma about it. Obviously this had to start in childhood.
We need to talk about it in therapy, and we
needed to sensitize you. Okay, So and that was like,
we don't have to talk about it, but I'm going
to tell you, okay, it's it's Can we talk about
childhood trauma poop?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Can we talk about it for a second? Because I
do think and we all have this, right, yeah, I
think that it's like undiscovered like internalized sexism that you like.
I don't think it was anything that you would actively
because right, I'm supposed to poop. She's kind of where
(08:34):
that comes from. Was a little bit right, you.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Were digging deep. I was not expecting this for this episode,
and I am feeling very uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
You're saying, God, it's a breakthrough. That was amazing, Like
how honest she got just then that's what we need
from everybody might be, but I think we all have that.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Here's here's I'll give you one that she and I
have that you don't have, right, Like Wendy will be
free as a bird and go right in her pool
in the nude, no problem, totally.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, but we don't. We don't.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
We know.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
My first thought when you said you forget your bathing suit,
I was like, oh, who cares?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Just fucking exactly, And I don't know if I would
do it, And so that's my own ship, right. My
daughter is also like, again, that's like some weird gender
ship because I don't think a guy would think twice
about it.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
They really don't, and I know you wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
When I'm saying, like, so we all have our things
that like this conditioning that you know.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I think I was literally born that way because my
mom said even as a child, I was constantly stripping
my clothes and just being maked.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
That's that's great. You sound very French, although I know
you're not.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I said this before. I was like, that's so not
what I thought you were going to say. I'll take it, though,
we will.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's ready to get out of this
calftan and.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
How freeing is that that, Like it's just not something
that if I forgot my bathing soit I'd be like
I'll just wear my shitty underwear and like my bra.
Like I don't think I've ever been skinny dipping in
my life.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
What I don't think I have.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
It's definitely like a dunger. But I feel too body
conscious now really.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, but no, I mean I would my I do
feel I think more body conscious in just being getting
a little bit older and being like, oh, there's like
weight that's kind of around my tummy that's like hard
to lose. And I'm not saying this is like stupid
problems that like I'm fine, but I'm it is like
(10:44):
I don't want people to be like what the fuck
are you complaining about? Like I'm fine, but you can
understand that everybody has their own shit.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You brought up something that like what I've always been
conscious of in terms of like being in bathing suits
and being naked is like being so white. Yeah, like
you're when you're so white, like your body can't hide anywhere.
It's there, right, It's also just like like whoa, it's blinding,
you know what I mean. But that's like one of
the things. Yes, I've been skinny, but I wasn't like,
(11:13):
you know, doing it all the time.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Of course as a bird, as I would have loved,
because people can look at you and go, she's.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Perfect, she's she's the body that I want. She's skinny,
she's got her she can wear a crop top whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
But my point being is that, like everybody has their
own issues, but like you, you just have to remember that,
like when people look at you, they're not really thinking
all those things.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
They're mostly concerned about them.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Themselves and their legs.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
And maybe cell you think about them. And I have kinkles?
Do my elbows look weird? Are they dry? Are they like?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Do I have a weird mole?
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
It's like exactly, and I have so many So we
all have our shit.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Hers is shit, literally it does. It's But yeah, I
think it would be interesting to like maybe investigate that
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I have a challenge for all of us.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
How about we, Oh, I let you openly talk about
the subject while we're here this weekend, and I will
discuss it as well.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Oh no, I know what she's gonna say.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
It's nice skinny dip.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
By the way, skinny dipping with like your two friends
at night. It's so not a big deal.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
And I know it's.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
A big deal for us. It's totally easy. Like where
does that even come from?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Because you know, like when I went to Olympic Spa
or we spa, the one that you guys like, and
I was, I was, this was like ten years.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Ago, and they were like, okay, go take you off
to be naked. You have to when you have to
wait to the locker rooms, you have to be naked.
And they were like okay. And the host helped me
and she was like, okay, take off your clothes and I.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Was like, okay, okay, this is fine, and I did.
And then you you walk into the spa and everyone
there is naked, and it's just.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Like nobody can naked.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Nobody, nobody cares very everyone very buck naked, and nobody
gives an act.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
The strutting that's like not, that's effortless. It's not like
if that women are trying to strut, they're just strutting
because they're they honestly too, it's probably because like they
feel safe, yeah, and in this like locker room of
all women.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
They're like, Oh, I don't have to worry. I'm naked,
No big deal.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
And not even in the locker room because it's like
I've been naked in a YMCA and other there's older women, younger,
they're already naked.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
This is like when you walk into the spa. There's
a huge pool, a cold plunge, but there's no man
in it. There's no men. But I'm saying that, like
you think it's different though than the yms. I just
want to clear.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Very because you're in the locker room and you're like
versus like you are not only like where like how
it's different. There's a huge pool and it and a
cold plunge and a sauna. I know reason everyone in
there is naked. Yeah, yeah, you do not do that
at the you have a towel on the only time
I go to see naked in the locker room. This
is like a thing that I'm doing where I was like, oh,
(14:07):
I can get in this poll. Everybody's naked, Okay, Nobody
seems to be like staring at me or weird about it,
and like they'll just sort of like look at you
and smile.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Like because maybe they could tell that I was like, I.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Kind of don't know what I'm doing here. And then
when you get the massage, they just go they call
your number and they're like, came here and you are
just everybody there is naked on a butt on like
five tables. They splash water on you, they give you
a body scrub, They're like, flip over, and then they
want you do not fuck around it. They don't shit,
they don't.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
They don't even have any time for any like body consciousness. No,
They're like, we're gonna slap on some scrub and it's
gonna feel that you like you lost like fives of
your skin when we're dealing with you.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
It is funny how different I think maybe people are
just raised differently where I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I don't know what it is, you know what it is.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
It's interesting because it's like in some households, maybe it's
your point era, like it's oh, bodily functions were totally
cool with this is normal, but sex is not. And
I think, yeah, for women, we definitely, I think all
of it. I think we need to be a bit
more free about and forgiving and accepting and but it
(15:24):
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Speaker 2 (15:27):
It's different things.
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Speaker 1 (16:00):
We are going to talk about on this episode. We
all know that when you say the words group project,
that usually solicits a groan.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
But also just.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Any kind of group planning, group vacations, there's there's some
shit there to unpack. There's everyone's got some issue with
something that involves a group. Absolutely, and we here are
on a group vacation in Palm Springs, So we thought,
what a great thing to talk about.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
No no, no, no, no no no no.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
You've reached the Rage hotline.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Please leave us a message. All right, everybody, We got
a couple of voicemails this week.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Love it here we go, let's bring it in Scott here.
Speaker 10 (16:43):
So my thing with group invites is I want details.
I got a guy that invited me to something tonight
and he's like, just having to get together at my house,
come by at eight? What is this guy together? How
do you ask who's going to be there without it
being obvious that you're trying to figure out if you
don't want to go or cool enough people are going
to be there?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (17:01):
Wow, are you gonna want to go? And then I'm like, honest, hey,
why don't I bring Steve? You know, Steve might ask
me what exactly is happening tonight? So what could I
tell him? The response is just having some people over? Okay,
what do we do? What do we what?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
It's not enough for Scott?
Speaker 10 (17:18):
How much do I ask obvious that I'm trying to
decide if it sounds fun?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Oh god, I would be like, I guess at that
point you just have to be honest, right, you have
to be.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Like, yeah, got it? Like anybody there that I know?
I don't know? I would absolutely ask that.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
I totally like who's going, who's going to be there?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
What's the vibe? Yeah, it's parking? Is their food is
or drink?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
What is going on?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, that makes sense for you, Frendy Wendy. I feel
like there's a like there's a gradient, right, like there's
like a spectrum. I feel like what he just described
was very vague details and then there's like super planned
out right.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Like the friend might be offended if he said, yeah, like,
am I not a nudding? Am I not an or?
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Or?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Me and my friends are like with my group.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, they have to pass some sort of tests.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
But I think you can be like, oh, who's going?
Like that's a fun that's a normal question to ask, Like, well.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
What if it was like when I'm like, oh, we're
having some friends over, do you want to come? And
like what if I like just wouldn't reveal that.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I would just be like, yeah, who's coming?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
And I'd be like, I don't know, I think maybe
this person, but maybe not.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
That would that just be like an immediate past.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
No, definitely not okay.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I think that what is normal which people normally do
They go, hey, do you want to come to this thing?
Just so you know Kat who you know and blah
blah blah will be there too. They always throw out
a couple names of people that I know that besides
them to go and also you know a couple people
be there like blah blah blah blah blah blah. It
must be maybe with Scott is that this this friend
(18:59):
must not be a close friend because it may be like, Oh,
you're an acquaintance kind of a friend that I rarely see,
and like, who's a f do you hang out with?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Right? Like, exactly is going to be there?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Where? If you guys invited me something and I was like, oh,
you were inviting other people, it wouldn't matter because I'd
want to come to be with you guys.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Exactly. Yeah, but really who remember that?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
That one caller was like I have to go pick
up Samantha, who we need to know about. But now
will be a repeated reference on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Totally all right, here we go. Here is our next caller.
Speaker 11 (19:37):
Hey Ragers calling from up in the Central Coast area.
Just thought i'd call and share what drives me a
little crazy about about vacationing with friends. I have this
one friend, Bill. He's a nice enough guy, but he
is a freaking control freak. Okay, and I'll give you
(19:57):
an example. We he he and his wife, Me and
my then girlfriend went on a fishing trip, so excited
to go fly fishing for the first time. Went to
Lake Shasta, which is quite a long drive, and we
get there and Bill just had to control everything about
the entire weekend, where and when we fish, what we
(20:18):
had for dinner, when it was time for bed. It
was just kind of ridiculous, and it just kind of
served as a reminder to to be a little bit
more careful as to who I invite on group outings.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
That's it.
Speaker 11 (20:33):
I love your show, Ray.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
John, Oh, thank you so much. I love that.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Bill needs to calm the fuck down.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'm here.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well, first of all, the fact that you even get
me to go fly fishing, like I should be getting
a parade, totally. I should not be pressured to be
fishing a certain amount and at a certain time in
somewhere like vacation group get togethers, like people should be
having a good time, not feeling like they have like
their showing up for fucking work.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I feel like you're focusing on the wrong thing if
you are in a group. Right, Bill's planning to fishing.
Maybe he provided the tools and he's like, we're going
to go fishing at this time?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Great? But what time you go to bed? When he
controls what time we go? Do I miss? Let me
go to bed? You wait? Wait? Yes, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I never want to go on a trip.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
With Bill ever invited.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I hear you're bearing the lead. I missed that part. Sorry,
I was probably thinking about what we were getting for dinner.
I'm with you, but like, holy shit, I would be like,
fucking Bill, you do not own me. You do not
do you understand? Do you understand what my like processes
for going to sleep these days?
Speaker 11 (21:49):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
You think I can just finish that whenever I want.
We have seventeen steps steps to our regimen, okay, both
of us. An appeasing Bill is not one of them.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Okay, I'm with you, but also we're on vacation. If
I want to fucking rage still three.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
Am, go to bed, Bill, I would go fishing with
the people who want to fishne don't tell me what
time to fucking go to bed, and I don't want
to hear it.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
You do not come knocking at my doors. We're going fishing.
Get the hell out of here, or you vacation? Who
are you?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I'm not getting up at five to fucking.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Fix your bait.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Thank you, or however you tell the people if you
want to go fishing, We're getting up at five. Whoever's
up by five, come with us. That's what a respectful,
considerate person, not a sociopath would do.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Also, you're not gonna get a lot of people to
go on your fishing trips if you're coming at it
with this.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
If I was ever on a vacation where somebody told
me when to go to bed, I would like immediately
go home exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
I would like, not like and I'm so cute furious,
Like I feel like I want to like call him back,
but we won't, but like maybe we will.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
We'll ask him, well, ask him literally pay I know.
Let's have Bill in the pod.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
And like, do you literally tell your friends, Okay, it's bedtime,
but like you do they have to go in their room?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Do they have a TV in there? Are they allowed
to stay up? Why what happened? Is he just suggesting
it or does he make it out?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I know what's happening. I know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Tell me this is.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
The heart of it. Bill's got expectations for this fantastic
fishing trip where everyone is like fishing and having a
great time. Everyone's like getting up early and they're getting
their best fish. And the only way to do that
is to get It's like for people to get sleep
and for people to do the thing. And this is
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the fucking problem you are dealing with people, Bill, you
can't have those kinds of expectations.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
But he didn't say.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
That it was a fishing trip vacation, not the guy
who called I mean, that's what Bill made.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
That's what it was.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
No, but that's what Bill is thin. It's the fucking
expectation game. You're gonna lose it, especially like with a
group vacation.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, like you aren't.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
You're I think this is something that we will get
into later when we're I guess when we're talking more
about this. But if you want to learn how to
kill unrealistic expectations, have an itinerary for more than three
people on a vacation, and that shit is gonna get
blown out of the water an hour one.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
You have to go with people that you feel overly
comfortable with that. If you just go I think I'm
just gonna sleep and they go, Okay, we'll come back later,
we'll hit you up like.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, just to be a thing.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I had this like, oh I gotta take this call, guys,
I'm so sorry or whatever it is, and like, listen,
our good friend Kristen As has stayed with me. The
key to longevity is flexibility. True, and I think there's
some real.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Truth to that. Mm hmm. And look, Bill, I.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Think you could use some flexibility. And to the caller,
I think you're flexible enough. I think it's smart to
be judicious. Well, those were some juicy some juicy callers.
Those were some juicy voicemails about some of the angst
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over group vacations and planning group planning, group vacations, group dinners.
A lot can go wrong fast. What I found with
group stuff is usually like somebody emerges as the leader,
someone becomes the decider. Yeah, and well I think you
need that. It's not always the right person. And maybe
(25:44):
at points, instead of being one person, it's like you're
the decider for part of it, and then maybe we
bring in other people, like we passed the baton.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
So we just talked about with Bill.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Bill was the decider and Bill made some bad decisions.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Like the decide honestly should be like are we cool
with that or do we have any other thoughts? You
have to open up the floor you've got.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
If you're going to be the planner, you've got to
figure out like, hey, I want to be the planner
because there's certain things that I want to control, But
then I want to carve out flexibility for the different interests, priorities,
needs of all the people involved.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Right, you know, and like I feel like, you know,
Bill had no problem being the decider.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
He had zero, but we we wouldn't always make if.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I just if we would never any of us would
go we're going here and then here and not say
how do you feel about that? What do you guys
want to do? Do you want to stay in tonight?
Do you want to go out tonight? Do we feel
like none of us would ever just go we're gonna
go get sushi and then we're gonna get drinks here
and then we're gonna do this like it would be fun.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I would not mind it.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I like when people, yeahs are probably too much like
by committee total, so then things don't happen and we
end up on the couch watching you know, reality catfish
shows two in the morning, because she's also fine, but
I mean, I do think that there's a happy medium, right,
like if you're.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Too much like what do you want to do? I
don't care, what do you want to do? I don't care.
I don't know, Like I'm cool with whatever, Like then
nothing somebody else. And then the other side of it is.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
You get a bill and then people are being told
when to go to bed and that they have to
fucking fish.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Right, and you're like, we didn't sign up for this, right,
Like maybe we we're like, oh, well, we'll.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Head out at like I don't know, eleven am, see
if we catch a trout, But then we're also going
to like hang out, right, maybe just change go to
a restaurant, have some beers back at the place.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I don't think that was on Bill's agenda.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I think if you go with a group, you have
to go under the assumption that everybody can do what
they want.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yes, And I have to say a big one.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
I have to give it up to my ex husband.
He is a great itinerary maker. His his Italy itinerary
is legendary and we all fucking made fun.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Of him for it.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
It's literally four pages and he did it without chatchept,
which God bless him, but he was so detailed with it,
and as much as we were making it was like, okay,
well this is good, like this is a good guide
of everything we could do or want to do and whatever.
But it was the type of vacation where it was like, oh,
we're gonna go bike to this town. Cool, I'm gonna
lay by the pool for the rest of the day
(28:22):
and read my book, like you could just go do
what you wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
But it was so great.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
We did have somebody that laid everything out for us
and it's.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Your fucking adventure, which is exactly how it should be
on vacation.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And look sometimes like my sisters a really good planner,
And what I love that she does is just say like, hey,
I thought this was this cool thing that we could do.
If we all want to do it, we do need
to like commit to it because we need.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Tickets by this date.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Right, We don't have to all do it, but if
we do want to do it, if you think that
you might want to do it, Like there's certain things
do require planning, but I like the approach of like, look,
no one's expecting you to say yes to this, but
if you do want to like there's some organization that
goes into it. Yeah, because on the other side, you know,
(29:15):
what is a real fucking like rat trigger is when
people organize and they offer these options, they offer a
lot of details, and then it's fucking crickets.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Oh nobody responds.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Nobody responds, and that person did a lot, They did
a lot of work, and it's like, do you just
think it's magically going to come together? If you don't
know that is absolutely fine. A simple response of Hey,
I'm really figuring out like my schedule, my finances, whatever
it may be. I think people are reasonable and they
(29:49):
understand I don't know yet, but I'm working on it
and I will get back to you.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Absolutely you.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Owe someone who put it in that much in that
email to try to get this event to go down,
and for you to ignore that, I'd be like, you're
kind of a fucked up friend, Like well.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Because it's like right and work if you just ignore.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Even if you're like, hey, I need more time, but
you never say anything like, hey, I'm working on it.
I might need a little bit more time, like eventually,
like that has real consequences.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
You just need the acknowledgment just to acknowledge it.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, so that person complain like, Okay, we don't know
on that person. We know on these people. Maybe we
have like a you know, a drop dead date right
like by this date, I'm going to make reservations for
this many people, and if those other people end up
saying that they want to come, we will figure out
like either hey see if they're still open, like, if
(30:43):
they're still availability, great, and if not, like we'll just.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Do separate things that night, like exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I also feel like this idea that everybody has to
do the same thing the same thing on an extended
group vacation, it is not really dick, Nope, it is.
It is causes way too much pressure, way too much stress.
And it's like, look, so if you don't want to
do the thing, cool, we're still going to go do
(31:08):
the thing.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Awesome, you do your own thing. I'm sure we're going
to do something else together because yeah, for a week
or whatever, it is like we have the whole day
to split it up. If you want to go to
the pool and we want to go to the movie.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
And somebody else wants to take a fucking nap, but hey,
we did all come here together, so we'll all go
to dinner together, right, Can we all decide on that
That's fine at least like one thing a day if
we want to get people together that like we all
did come on this together, that's fine, But like to
take up the whole day, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Not, because again, fucking Bill comes back to expectations. You
have the expectation, like, let's say, I feel like this
Italy trip was like at least like twelve people, there's twenty.
If you have the expectation that twenty people are going
to do the same group activity for more than twenty
(31:58):
four hours, you're out of your fucking mind. You are like,
that is Lord of the flies in five minutes?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Like, just be stoked that you got twenty eight people
with twenty eight people, twenty eight people to travel internationally,
and if you see all of those people in one setting,
one time during those one or two weeks whatever, it
is like, that's a miracle.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
In my mind.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I agree, And like, did anything go south on that
trip really bad with the group or was it all
pretty joyful?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It was all pretty joyful.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
But we all came together from separate places and separate
clusters of people where the plan was and this is
kind of how we did it, where it was like
we are getting this villa, these are the days that
we're going to be here. You are invited. Let us
know if you can make it kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
It's perfect.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
And so it wasn't this like I can do this week,
I can do this, I can do this, Like no,
first we're going can you come?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:56):
And it was very so everybody traveled in separately and
all arrived there together and we stayed there for like
maybe like five days or whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
But because he had everything planned out did it's like
everybody felt pretty good.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
You know what was stressful stress getting into it.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Was planning the room assignment.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Oh, it's like planning seats at a wedding and not
in having the blueprints, but trying to determine who would remember,
being very stressed about it because it was it was
my friend.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
It was me and my friend's birthday together group birthday,
so she had some of her friends, I had some
of my friends, and then we had some of our
friends together. And as a stress villa was like four
different apartments, one big building.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And how in the apartments were like what how many
two bedrooms?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
The living room pull out and then there was a casida,
so we had some people in the casida and.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Then you and I would have wanted to.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
And yeah, it was like who, where's everybody to go?
And these people are only two people, but these people
are four people, and it was a little stressful. But
Maria and I like got it together like right before
we arrived. But I remember that being stressful.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
There was one reality show, like at Real Housewive showed
that I watched only to further ingratiate with my hairstylist Andrew,
and I remember like like room assignments and where the
where the women would choose, Like that was like immediate eruption.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah, we watched that episode together because Meredith needed the bath, right,
Like why the fuck does Meredith like have to have
the master bedroom has a I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
No, I think that was right.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
There were so many women and there were so many
needs that I can't keep track of it all. But
Meredith was definitely one of those women and she had
to have a math ave and so then it was
like where is the bath?
Speaker 8 (34:50):
Right?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Like not all the rooms have a bath, but like
that was enough material for like an entire episode was
just these room.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Assignments, and I love it.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
I mean, like, for me, if I was going on
a group thing, I'd be like, I need my own
space to recover, Like I at least need my own
room where I could close the door and be like
I just shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
But that would just be I would everybody who knows
me would know that.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Let's talk about the group birthday dinner.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Oh jeez, whoys.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Okay, here's the thing. I feel like this is very
easily decided. This is not even to me a conversation.
If you are going out to a group birthday and
I get it, some people they don't drink, or they
don't have dessert, or they don't like just know you
are going to be paying more than what you consume
(35:40):
because everyone is going to cover the birthday person.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
And if you don't want to do that, then do
you either don't go or you go early.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I'm just trying to come up with some other alternative, right,
I just wouldn't go where I would go. You like,
go early and you set it up where you have
a separate tab, yeah, and you make sure that like, hey,
I'm only going to have like a soda and I'm
not going to eat, and then you still contribute to
the birthday dinner because you're there, but then you still
limit how much you're paying how much otherwise, Like I
(36:11):
don't even see this as a discussion, but.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
It is such a big pain point.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
It is or everyone that's going out to the dinner
needs to be on the same page of like we're
going to itemize the bill, correct, you know, but even
still that's a real fuck you to the waiter or
the waitress, Like if you're going to do that, then
someone still needs to pay, and then everybody else one car.
Don't be a fucking animal, yeah, and say can.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
You split it through.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
God? And then it's like if you do that too,
you're kind of like now you're making the whole night
a wet blanket, Like you're the wet blanket of the
night because you're doing that, you mean, because you're throwing
your because.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Now you're like trying to like, well, actually I only
got like a soup and.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
A solid No, you know what I mean, you do
not bring it up at the fucking table. What you
do if you're that deranged about it, you walk up,
you get out from the table, you go over to
the waiter a waitress, and you say, hey, look, I
know this is so annoying. I only got this in this.
(37:15):
Is there any way you can charge me for that? Now,
here's my card. You take care of it behind the scenes.
Don't open your mouth of the group table and make
everybody uncomfortable about it, because now you're opening it up,
and now everybody has to make you feel better about No.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
No, no, it's okay. We'll take care of it. We'll make
sure they're only tired for a coca and a soup. No,
so grew up. We don't have top your shit.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
You know what I'm thinking of this person dates Bill.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Oh my god, the fishing for a Chovyes, together, those
little bitches.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Why is she saying anchovy? I know this is what
you've done to her?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
This is get done.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I'm assuming it's anchovy like you're giving You're not giving bass,
you're not giving trout, you're giving any with your controlling vibes.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Okay, So, Terry, you have.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
A cunt of the week for us and just for
the listeners and watchers to remember.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
Kind of he stands for courageous, unapologetic, notorious kind of
a woman slash.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Whatever, slash say them slash and you said you could
wait last time.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah. It could be a guitar, could be a tree, Yeah,
any any of it now.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
My cunt of the week is Noah kN know.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
By six season.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
It's stick Season like that was so if you don't
know him, stick Season, blew him up.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
That's the song.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
And he is from a tiny Vermont town of like
only a thousand people.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
But and he's dubbed as like folk Malone because and
they've they've performed together.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
They have yes, because of his mix of emotional songwriting
and humor. Which has really grabbed me the most is
like the way that he writes stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
But mainly he is a mental health advocate.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
He's open about his struggles with anxiety and depression, which
I really appreciate, and it comes through in his song lyrics.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
He often uses his platform and.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Lyrics to normalize conversations around mental health, which I think
we need more of. His honesty has earned him a
very loyal and supportive fan base, which I am there for.
He also loves his dogs like his His album cover
is Him and his two Dogs, and I made as
sure when I went to that concert that it says
(39:37):
and at the end of it all, I just hope
that your scars heel because I love that that phrase.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
But also he.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Wrote a song that's just it's just call your mom
about someone who's like, I hope you know that because
you're you're thinking about you're high and you're thinking about
taking your own your being unlive because we can't say
I don't think we can say it on podcasts. I
just I'm just gonna call it un alive. That he's like,
(40:07):
I'll call your mom, and like he talks about that,
but he also talks about another song, orange Juice, about like,
you know, come over, we bought orange juice for the kids,
but we know you're sober.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
We're just happy you could make it kind of a thing.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
He's just so open and such a good writer when
when it comes to that, I'm not giving him enough justice,
but I'm saying that when you listen to his songs,
it touches me in a lot of different ways. When
it comes to it, does it does? It really does?
Because you know, again, like everybody struggles I think with
(40:44):
anxiety or depression. They've been in dark places and to
have someone sing about that really honestly. Even his song
New Perspective is about him on the couch with him
and his therapist and arguing about Jesus and other things
and him being on you know, prozac and drugs, and
how he doesn't cry anymore.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
But I forget what the other lyric is like.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
He just talks about all of it, and I love
it because that is let's loop it back to being vulnerable,
being open, being honest. This is why when you go
to watch him any of his concerts. He was nominated
for one of the Best New Artists in the Grammy's
in twenty twenty four. Now, but listen, if you look
at his concerts on camera. When we went to the
(41:28):
Greek it was sold out. It was one of his
very first concert in la If.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
I look at any concert on YouTube because I often
watched them because I just want to hear his songs.
There are people that are there that it's like Michael Jack.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
They are crying, They're singing every word, and they are
crying because they're going this person understands me. I've gone
through this, I've gone through that, and they're like, he
gets it, and he's singing about it. It's like he's
looking into your soul and he understands the dark sides
of it that other people don't want to talk about.
And there's these girls that are just holding each other
(42:00):
and they're singing and they're crying, and they're like, I
wish I could say all the lyrics right now, but
that is what he gives us, and I appreciate nol
Coon for that. Noah con you are our count of
the week, We see you.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
That concludes our Palm Springs edition of the Rage Pod.
Thanks for hanging with us. Tune in every Wednesday for
new episodes. Wherever you get your podcasts. A deep breath
in rage, scream into your pillow.
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